Another dozen innocent children were killed in another school shooting. It’s time to realize that the NRA is a terrorist organization.
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This is now a bait meme thread
You realize that no one associated with th NRA has committed a mass shooting right? If we're going to call them a terrorist group than so is Antifa and similar groups
no ''Assault Rifles" were used.
>>769030404
stay mad princess
>nra
>terrorist organization
>dozen children
>were really less than a dozen victims
Mfw
>>769030404
You're blaming the wrong people you fucking Nazi
>>769032018
you know this is objectively incorrect, right?
>>769032186
>you know this is objectively incorrect, right?
found the next school shooter
>>769032116
I don't think he is a NRA/Nazi . Sounds like he is the opposite.
>>769030404
1) all guns should be reported and accounted for in a searchable federal database.
2) guns should be subject to seizure upon trial, conviction or mandate from a judge in good standing
3) anyone under the age of 21 is completely banned from buying any magazine fed semi automatic rifle.
4) fuck the NRA. Gun safety should be practiced and not preached.
>>769030404
Did the NRA cause these shootings?
>>769030404
I'm fine with people haveing guns but you are right. The NRA insists guns are the answer and pushes people to buy larger guns . And that's a scary thing
>>769032640
Yes... they lobbied to give crazies guns and Trump signed the EO.
Jesus cia stop with this thread. Your not going to "sway public opinion" by spam posting this shit.
>All the effeminate, frightened language the left uses in gun control debates
When did Americans become such fucking pussies? Jesus. You guys used to be the cool badass soldier cowboys of the world, now you start crying whenever any tragedy rears its head?
t. Australian.
>>769030404
We don't know if they were innocent.
>>769032755
Yay another 4chan user who is already dead.
>>769032574
Move to Australia then you faggot.
Schools are a place that a whole town sends their children for 7-8 hours a day EVERY DAY. How is it NOT the most well guarded place in town? How is it that anyone can just waltz right in?
I know that some schools have armed guards and metal detectors and shit. But not nearly enough, obviously.
>>769030404
Oh, it's THIS thread again for the nth time in the day, every day, every week, for months...
>>769030404
Sorry your a retard......
Another Democrat killing people again
It's time to realize the Democrats are Traitors and Terrorists.
Think about it
Democrats want to disarm the people
Democrats want lighter sentences for criminals
Democrats protect illegal aliens more than citizens
Democrats are against Freedom and your Rights
Democrats were and still are PRO SLAVERY ( Republicans freed the slave Democrats want to shackle them again)
Democrat run cities are all High crime with the strictest gun laws for citizens ( its as if criminals do not give a shit about laws"
Democrats think signs that say "gun free area" will magically work.
So lets sum it up
Antifa is Fascist
Democrats are Racists and Commies
So fuck off and leave already.
>>769032916
Can’t I’m stuck with the VA for my healthcare until one of you lone rangers shoot me for buying gas or groceries or taking a shit at the bookstore.
>>769030404
No. The NRA represents We The People. Not very well sometimes....but we ain't giving up our guns, nor suffer laws that advocate any attempt to dis-arm....
>>769032715
You mean the repeal of the regulatory gun possession ban enacted by Obama on elderly SSA beneficiaries who receive financial handling assistance from relatives? Have they been wheeling themselves around in their wheelchairs to schools and opening fire?
>>769030404
NRA is just another group of rich assholes exploiting the dumb to keep making insane amounts of money.
Just like the healthcare system or housing.
The only problem in the world is the ultra rich, basically anyone who takes home more than they actually earn.
>>769032715
Do you think he couldn't have gotten the gun if the NRA hadn't lobbied?
>>769030575
http://myfox8.com/2018/05/18/3-shot-1-killed-during-graduation-ceremony-at-georgia-high-school/
11.
>>769033205
Him specifically... I could only guess
Others... certainly
For crazies.
>>769033087
There is no where in the Constitution that says civilians have the right to own guns.
Just says America has a right to have a military.
>>769030404
I don't think you can call the NRA a terrorist organization for this. They didn't organize or even intend the attack to happen. The shooter is responsible, noone else. Stop using this tragedy to push your political agenda.
>>769030722
Antifa is an actual terrorist group. They use violence to achieve political goals.
Attempting to label the NRA as such is not just factually wrong, it is profoundly stupid.
>>769033283
Which others?
>>769030404
I don't believe the NRA was there. One craze youth.
Do some research. Young liberals are the terrorists.
>>769033394
They aren’t a terrorist organization but they are corrupt as fuck and are complicit in kids killing eachother for the sake of thier constituents sales.
What they need to do is remove gun free zones so people will have the ability to defend themselves any time, any where.
>>769033419
Look at the rise in shootings.
>>769032536
>I don't think
found your problem
Yanny orr
>>769032574
when you're this retarded
>>769032715
*yawn*
The rise in shootings is due to evil people who have found that schools are easy targets and an easy way to fame. Learn from the Israelis. The only way to stop a bad man with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Then quit making them famous.
>>769033609
When your answer is more guns.
>>769033035
sure kid
>>769033561
Did the NRA cause those to happen?
>>769033193
sure kid
>>769033205
this retarded
>>769033381
You are directly at odds w/ the Supreme Court. The 2nd Amendment protects the right of the people to keep and bear arms, and not the right of the government to have a military. The government has designated powers. People have rights.
>>769033248
*yawn*
>>769033381
this retarded
>>769032116
Based Colion. I like his shooting vids.
>>769033703
They got what they wanted and shootings have gone from yearly, to monthly.
>>769033535
sure kid
this retarded
>>769033561
since the millennials were born?
>>769030404
>>769033677
when you're this retarded
>>769033826
They only suck because you made them.
>>769032760
Kek. Within the last week you fucking ignoramus, how’s them gun laws faggot?
>>769033381
you're just fucking ignorant..
>>769033799
sure kid
its a millennial problem
>>769033535
Would the kids not have killed each other if it wasn't for the NRA?
>>769033859
lmao
>>769032574
Registration leads to confiscation. Confiscation leads to "Cleansing." Fuck you. If you want to seize our guns come and take them.
>>769033878
way to strawman
>>769033878
Never heard of a kid killing 10 in a fist fight.
>>769033923
so retarded
>MFW the politicians fighting for guns are the ones who we need guns to defend against.
>>769032574
Dipshit the NRA offers Nationwide youth safety education programs and shooting programs.
>>769033940
so retarded
>>769033799
I'm pretty sure they don't want the shootings to increase. What makes you think they caused the increase in shootings?
>>769033960
he's retarded
>>769033900
Fuck you let the government do it’s job. I don’t want guns taken from everyone.
>>769033923
>>769033087
WE AINT GIVING UP OUR GUNS. REEEEEEEEEEE.
>>769033878
Do you really think that someone who is determined to commit mass murder is going to be stopped by a law that says it's illegal for them to have a gun?
>>769033922
How did I missrepresent your argument?
>>769034008
I’ll give you this... that guy was a fucking ninja.
>>769033923
I've heard of a kid killing 10 with a homemade bomb.
>>769033995
Registration is not their job. You just want them "Registered" so they can take them when and where they want. Once they have a list someone is going to use it to pick them up. It's what they do.
Shit post
>>769034061
way to deflect
can't keep up
>>769032715
The kid stole the guns from his dad.
>>769034035
No. I don't.
>>769032760
Thanks Obama.
>>769034098
That is a point to remember. People use guns here in the US because they're easier to get here. If they couldn't get guns they'd use vehicles or bombs. it would be easier to kill a lot of people w/ a 4WD truck in a crowd or a bomb.
>>769034101
Fuck yes. If you are convicted of a felony the judge should be able to take all of your guns and know it.
>>769034127
You accused me of missrepresenting your argument. I'm giving you an opportunity to show how you were missrepresented. You haven't even given me anything to deflect.
>>769034187
They already do. I've seen the court orders where someone is convicted of a felony and has to get rid of their guns. The number of convicted felons is really small. Normally when you get convicted of a felony you go to prison or jail. It's easy enough to do the court supervision and check for weapons. They do. Why should all of of honest law abiding citizens be penalized for the small percentage of criminals who won't obey the law?
>>769033381
Oh good good. Is it summer already?
>>769034277
How can the judge know if your guns aren’t registered?
>>769034257
still not keeping up in the conversation
time to stop posting anon
I still haven't seen any good proof that guns cause violent crime.
>>769034326
They do inspections of houses on people who are under court supervision if they're on probation or parole. And honestly they can't know. I can 3D print a gun now with a $200 machine. I can turn one out w/ basic hand tools and flat steel. There is absolutely no way to "KNOW" felons don't have guns without turning society into a prison, and the criminals still get weapons in prison.
>>769032574
Come and take them. I'll be waiting.
>>769034361
John Lott "More Guns Less Crime" is a good start.
>>769034466
As will I. Can't wait to see these fuckers shit their pants when they come to our doors looking for our guns.
>>769034439
Defending the criminals. Fuck the criminals, and stop hiding them behind the 2nd amendment. Fuck gun violence which you think is normal.
mfw libtards are using the wrong argument to convey a really strong point. The problem is not the NRA, it’s the fact that everyone and their child can have a fucking gun if they wanted to. “DE TRYING TO TAKE YR GUNS!!!!” - pro gun-tard American in a nutshell. Prove me wrong.
>>769034326
Here's the problem if you're honest. One side presents this as about gun control and pretends it's about guns. The other side looks at it and sees that it's about control. You want to take our guns so you can control us. It's not going to happen. At some point if you push this instead of getting the guns you will get the consumables. Give up trying to take them.
>>769033561
So your argument is, “I heard about stuff and I think it caused something”? To what law or executive order are you referring? How did it cause any shooter to get a firearm they wouldn’t have previously gotten?
I identified Trump’s SSA repeal. Not a single mass shooter has been an elderly recipient of financial handling assistance. So who used a repeal of a law or executive order to kill? Answer that, feels boy.
>>769033958
Everything conservatives do just hurts the country. Just try and find anything they have done that hasn't ended in failure.
Every tax cut, deregulation, military action and environmental decision has just made things worse. The only thing holding the country together is the social programs.
And the only reason we need such social programs is the ultra rich take home more than they earn.
>>769034573
I'm not defending criminals. I'm not hiding behind the 2nd Amendment. We have the right to keep and bear arms. That right is to defend ourselves and our country from all enemies foreign and domestic. I carry a gun every day and I've never shot anyone.
>>769034829
So why did the economy suck under Obama and why is it roaring under Trump?
>>769034361
The gun free UK’s violent crime rate is five times higher than that of the armed US
>>769034753
They have killed so many at this point that I’m not sure if I’m gonna stop trying. I know it’s a lost cause but it’s just blatantly wrong to preach gun safety when you are giving selling every moron a gun.
>>769034897
just imagine being this retarded
>>769034573
Do you have proof that guns cause violent crime?
>>769035032
No they just escalate violent crime.
>>769034932
Governments murdered at least at hundred million people in the last century. As near as I can tell there were less than 10 million murdered by normal people. What does that tell you?
I rape children everyday bro
>>769035153
I don’t want people to get shot. You are apparently ok with it. That’s kinda the problem.
general rule of thumb is that if something is supported by the American right wing it's probably actively detrimental to society
>>769034903
They make a big deal about "Gun Crime." When has it mattered if you get beat to death, stabbed, or poisoned vs shot?
>>769035080
In England stabbings are common. Both knives and guns are are lethel weapons.
>>769035281
When was the last time England had 10 dead at a school?
>>769035241
Look up Vasily Blokhin and Katyn Forest. And why does shot vs stabbed vs beat to death vs poisoned vs strangled matter? Violence is violence. Murdered is murdered.
no, Q called it the night before.
"What is the common theme when bad news is about to break (against them)?
Stay vigilant.
Q"
sauce http://we-go-all.net/q.html
You want our guns? Come get them. You are on the side of pure fucking evil, fuck you OP.
>>769033764
The same fucking morons who are all Christian's and can't even understand their own religion?
Fucking dumb pieces of shit believe in a zombie human alien hybrid who had magical powers but still was killed by a bunch of primitives.
>>769035080
Any proof of that? There is actually a positive correlation between gun ownership and low crime. The areas with the least gun control also have the least gun crime. Those with the most restrictive gun laws have the most gun crime. Maybe there is some other factor which you are overlooking?
>>769035369
No shit but with a gun you can easily turn one murder into two or three.
>>769030404
>>769035432
That's how this works.
Something huge comes down the pipeline.
Like pic related...
The the cabal does something to change the news narrative for days.
>http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/05/17/report-inspector-general-will-declare-fbi-doj-broke-law-in-clinton-email-probe/
>https://twitter.com/breakingnlive?lang=en
>https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1GJ2KH?
It happens like Clock Work, every fucking time.
>>769034983
You would need to double your IQ to reach that level of retardation.
>>769035443
Loose gun laws shootings go up. I’m not a professor.
>>769034829
>Every tax cut
So the Clinton tax cuts rammed down hit throat by the Republican Contract With America we’re a disaster? Was it the economic growth or balanced budget that was the disaster?
>deregulation
Yes, I hate those deregulated airline routes under Reagan that have resulted in safer, cheaper air travel. I wish we’d go back to the golden age of air travel where there was one airline carrier authorized to fly to Phoenix and I could pay no less than $1,500 to fly to New York
>military action
Grenada, Kuwait, Panama, all disasters. Unlike Vietnam, Somalia and Libya, those great military victories.
>environmental decision
Thank God a fine democrat like Richard Nixon signed the Clean Water Act and started the EPA
>>769035342
I don't know, but England has plenty of terror attacks outside of schools.
Civil war would be worse than some shootings I'd imagine
>>769035080
Except for when they stop crime. The CDC did a survey that showed 2.5 million defensive uses with guns occur per year.
>>769035481
>>769035617
Do you people remember the SOTU speech?
David Rothschild got on twitter that night and laughed and said nobody would remember this speech in the morning.
Yeah, that happened, they tried to murder those congressmen and their families on that train.
>>769035342
A truck can do more damage than a gun.
>>769035543
Look at "More Guns Less Crime" by John Lott. Educate yourself on the subject before you spout off on things you don't know but feel about.
>>769035618
So has everyone, yet their children go to school without fear of being mowed down.
>>769035742
More guns only works when there is accountability.
Because disfiguring acid attack rapes are worth living through lol
>>769035481
So here’s how it works:
News happens.
Then sometimes other news happens.
It can’t be a coincidence. There’s a pattern there that you can find if you stop taking your meds and look very hard.
>>769035727
Weighing literally tons more I wonder why...
Moron.
>>769035792
There is accountability. If you commit a crime you will be tried, and if found guilty punished. Do you understand that in the 20th Century governments killed far more people than were murdered by normal people? Where is the accountability there?
>>769035746
I'd rather they didn't, but I'm not sure how the NRA caused any of this.
>>769035716
>>769035866
How about the new IG report information coming to light just the other day involving Anthony Wiener?
Have we all forgotten about that?
Impeccable timing if you ask me.
>>769035716
The Illuminati must be losing their influence then. Only one poor goyim was killed.
>>769035894
Where was accountability yesterday? Or in Parkland or the 10 other school shooting this year?
>>769035746
The chance of any individual child being a victim of a terror attack is insignificant compared to the chance of that child dying from heart desease, or cancer. Terror attacks only seem common in America because America is a big place.
>>769036005
The shooter was arrested and will be tried for his crimes. That is accountability. Who or what else do you want to be accountable?
>>769032574
>1) all guns should be reported and accounted for in a searchable federal database.
They already are
Why do you think ghost guns and filled off serial numbers are a thing
>2) guns should be subject to seizure upon trial, conviction or mandate from a judge in good standing
They already are, nor would that have stoped many of the mass shootings in America.
>3) anyone under the age of 21 is completely banned from buying any magazine fed semi automatic rifle.
A shotgun could get more kills in a school shooting anyway.
Standard lockdown procedures force any entire classroom of kids into a small confined space such as a closet or corner of a room
An AR of any type will work well but if going for a high body count bring a 20 gauge
>4) fuck the NRA. Gun safety should be practiced and not preached.
What do you think there purpose is?
They TEACH safe handling practices you mongolid
I don't really give a shit whether guns are banned or not I just lothe stupid arguments like the ones presented here
If your going to argue at least try to be competent at construting a valid point.
>>769035894
In your shit world some retard can trade his garbage life for 10-20 promising ones and we're supposed consider that accountability.
>>769033535
You seldom get to see stupid of this quality. Good show!
>>769035912
Yes, because the US Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York is filled with nothing but administration loyalists who want to run interference for Trump.
I bet you think the crickets under your house are spying on you, too.
>>769036068
Back to the individual and completely missing the bigger picture to favor your theory of artificial selection.
>>769036112
How would you stop it? Short of putting everyone in an individual cell at birth and preventing any contact between them? Oh wait, then their keepers and the government can kill them. With freedom comes an element of risk.
>>769036011
Yes, you found the proof that the train accident was rigged.
Young Rothschild apparently forgot the rule about not tweeting the secret plan ahead of time.
>>769036153
The individual is where the focus should be. Stop trying to use this tragedy to push your political agenda.
>>769036153
I'll ask again. What or who else would you hold accountable and why?
Fuck NRA.
>>769036202
I like how you went to individual cages before restricting access to firearms. Really shows the Fox News in you.
>>769030722
Oh no, what a gotcha, how will we go on now that we are forced to see that antifa, a loosely similiar group of people with no guiding doctrine are exactly the same as the group that takes in millions of dollars every year and lobbies for the interests of gun manufacturers. Yeah man.
>>769036120
>>769036229
Shills are desperate.
Then I'm a proud terrorist then. I renewed my membership yesterday.
The kid....KID...... STOLE THE GUNS FROM HIS DAD. HE WASNT SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE.......
Oh wait. That doesn't matter to the like of you, op..... Because you stood with her........
>>769032116
>dont blame the people shooting up the schools, blame the jewish media.
What happened to personal responsibility?
>>769036322
Yet noone has proven the NRA caused this attack, or that guns cause violent crimes.
![86f83bef00ed3e6ea0c70d4cd723fa5f[1].jpg](https://cdn.randomarchive.com/b/image/1526/739/1526739262495.jpg "86f83bef00ed3e6ea0c70d4cd723fa5f[1]")
>>769033087
You are so lost americans... I feel pity for you.
>>769034753
THIS!!#
>>769036302
I don’t want to hold people accountable, I want accountability for weapons. Register everything.
>>769036328
The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is a Constitutionally protected right. I was making fun of your thought that we can make everyone safe. We can't. The only way to make everyone "safe" is to put them in a padded room under the control of some larger entity, and any entity big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take everything you have.
>>769033953
No they dont. They "offer" it but if you apply to be a part of that the yh just ignore you becuase they dont actually run thag program outside of photo ops
>>769034983
Says the retard. Did you have a refutation in mind or is ad hominem all you can muster?
>>769033394
This anon gets it
>>769036447
How about no? If that's not enough, how about fuck no? How about it's fucking impossible? I can build a gun w/ tools in my garage. It's actually EASIER to make a MG than one that is semi auto. You can't put the gun genie back in the bottle. It's not going to happen. Give up.
>>769036447
Then you're doing it wrong. The shooter is the only person responsible for this.
The more you make these threads, the less I care. Sage.
>>769036599
You can make illegal guns and go to jail.
>>769036518
Sure they do. I know plenty of NRA certified instructors. They give classes to kids, women, and concealed carry every weekend and regularly during the week.
>>769036655
School shooters aren't worried about that.
>>769036697
People of the NRA aren’t the death loving leaders of the NRA.
>>769036457
I am not talking about making EVERYONE safe with one move. This notion that if you can't fix everything in one fell swoop is the most retarded of retard logic there is. The idea is to minimize the death toll by taking away firearms from unhinged morons, so this shit happens a lot less like in every OTHER first world country.
>Inb4 trucks of peace
You want to compare the frequency of those events for clarity?
>>769036655
>>769030404
DEATH TO AMERIKKKA
>>769036750
Name the last school shooter who printed his own gun.
>>769036655
Ohhh.. I'm scared. You're going to make guns illegal and that will make someone who's determined to commit mass murder stop? Just like making drugs illegal made people stop? The only people you're going to affect are the honest citizens, and you will make less of them care about the law. Is that your goal? At some point Atlas will shrug.
>>769036697
100 to 1 odds that in those classes, said instructor doesn't teach how to commit murder, and instructs on actual safety practices.
I'd even wager that those classes are kinda cool to take too.
>>769036761
You haven't proven that taking away firearms would minimize the death toll.
>>769036813
Illegal manufacturing of an unregistered firearm should be legal. I’ve hear it all now.
>>769032116
Well the arguement is won. You called him a nazi.
>>769035746
I would say that a big reason for that is the British government's long history of control over their press. For hundreds of years, nothing gets reported that they don't allow, and they can control how it is presented. Look up "The Wolf" about a German raider ship in WW1, and how they fucked up in a big way by clamping down on the press. They underreport or downplay terrorist attacks to prevent a panic, whereas in the US the news has to fill a 24 hour program, so they hype up the story. They don't care about the indirect effects, they just care about ratings and revenue.
>>769036816
Nope. They teach safe gun handling, the law as it pertains to guns, and marksmanship. Different classes concentrate on different things. Never seen a Murder 101 class or Murder 602 Mass Murder either.
>>769036800
Yeah, it's probably easier to make a bomb, or use a knife, or vehicle.
>>769032574
Fuck off you Fucking whiney ass.Hogg!
We should just ban murder, problem solved
>>769032663
Yet.another whiney ads Hogg!
>>769036909
It's not currently illegal to make a firearm. (Unless you're a prohibited person.) It's not currently required to put a serial number on a home made firearm. And regardless of legality, people CAN do it. You can't stop that.
>>769036923
You can’t stop the press anymore. They live without this problem because they aren’t redneck morons who want a secret gun.
>>769035474
And with a truck you can turn 2 or 3 into 60. Your argument is chock full of holes.
>>769037044
If only we had a government with laws and people who are willing to obey them.
>>769032715
You HOGG LOVER you.
>>769036942
Vehicle is far easier. People are taught and observe how to operate one at an early age. Bombs wouldn't be hard to do but you run a substantial risk of them blowing up "early" which can be detrimental to the continued health of the person possessing them.
>>769037125
I don’t know what that means.
>>769036875
Us is like 5 percent of Earth population and is responsible for 1/3 of mass shootings across the world. Do you really need someone to draw you a map to explain this?
>>769032116
The guy in the screen shot is right. We know that when the news reports the name of the killer, and explains the attack in detail, it encourages copycats.
>>769037116
People are only willing to obey the law as long as it's rational. Once the laws become stupid and irrational they ignore the laws they think are stupid. Drugs and abortion are two prime examples.
Yeahhhhhh, NRA is only a lobbyist group sorry OP.
The reason these kid(s) kill people are their own reasons. Not the NRA saying go do it. If there weren't guns they would just go around killing people other ways and they do by the way.
Address why people snap and do tragic dumb shit like this along with better security in schools. Problem solved. Even if America banned guns today, it can't stop people still getting guns no more than it can stop people getting illegal drugs.
>>769030404
I fucking hate gun fanatics. They are the unwashed. Yes, deplorables. There is little to no doubt that the country would be so much better without them. I fucking hate the repulsive, slobbering gun nuts. As they callously not give a fuck about their fellow man, may they eat dry oat meal and never be given a glass of water.
>>769037175
Assault Rifle? I don't think you know what one is. They have been highly restricted since 1934.
>>769037224
Is 10 school shootings this year rational? Or are you that brainwashed?
>>769037195
And it's one country. This doesn't prove the guns are the reason for the high number of terror attacks. There are other countries with lots of guns an very few terror attacks.
>>769037226
>guns no more than it can stop people getting illegal drugs.
Other countries dont have this problem.
>>769037318
Mag fed semi auto... call it whatever you want but teens shouldn’t have them.
>>769037318
soyboi probably never even touched a gun
>>769036697
I call bullshit.
>>769037291
Unwashed? Deplorables? I've shot alongside doctors, lawyers (ok, they might be deplorable, but necessary), teachers, police, military and pretty much every other profession over the years. We're just people who think differently than you. We don't slobber and we're not stupid. We do give a fuck about our fellow man, and that's part of why we own guns and carry them.
>>769037421
They have knife problems instead.
>>769030404
Another anti-gun thread. Maybe we should ban forks and spoons too. I hear they make people fat.
>>769037515
No they dont, why do you believe the media ok nly when it supports your narrative?
>>769037567
>hehehe
>autism
>hahaha
>>769037348
How would you propose to stop killings. Stop using shootings. Murderers are going to use what's available. Bombs are easier to deploy and will kill more done right. A 4WD truck is even easier and easier to obtain. Remember if you propose confiscation you may make the number killed go WAY up.
>>769037568
When did I mention the media?
>>769037493
Why bullshit? I hang around with shooters. I worked for a SOT for over a decade. I know lots of people who shoot and who teach. I've shot most everything from 22 derringers to 50 BMG including belt fed stuff. I've got a good idea what happens in the shooting/training world.
>>769037599
Yes. Autistic people do indeed have difficulty coming up with counter arguments, it seems.
>>769037608
I would start by undoing the EO to let the mentally ill have guns.
>>769037641
You didnt but you knife comment isnt at all backed up by reality. Some news outlets just scream that its exactly the same as 3 year old being able to shoot her pregnant mother.
>>769037416
Are you retarded? Yeah, lots of REGULATED guns. It's that shit I am talking about. Let's do that.
>>769037175
I'm a vet and I'd politely like to tell you to FUCK OFF!
I Fought The God Danm Vietcong For 4 FUCKING Years
4 Years of Atrocious Acts by My CO's and Those Commiunist Pricks Alike
I Fought in A War I Hated for One Reason Only
So Retarded Millennials Would Not Have There Rights Infringed. Not Have to Live In A Communist World.
Your Generation Disgusts Me.
>>769037051
>Can't stop the press
Uhh, yeah, you can. You can own it, like in the US, or you can have direct control over it as the governing office, like in the EU.
Just because you have a twitter account an a squeak toy for a brain doesn't make you the press.
>>769037755
There is no EO that changes the status if you're a prohibited person due to mental illness. Trump didn't start passing out guns when you got out of the loony bin.
>>769037942
I fought too fuckwad. It wasn’t Vietnam but I’ve seen my shit. If you fought so your grandkids could accidentally shoot eachother that’s on you.
>>769038102
But Obama sure helped the drug cartels get them with Fast and Furious!
>>769030404
Did NRA shoot up a school ?
>>769038001
What is being hidden? You can find almost anything if you know where to look.
>>769038120
My kids are taught the rules of gun safety from an early age. My grandkids will have the same training. The problem isn't the guns. The problem is evil people, and you can't fix that short of a bullet in the brain when they act up.
>>769038191
did a MAGA hat wearing NRA supporting white dude shoot up a school?
>>769038269
Evil people... sorry for your demons dude but in my experience most people are the same and good.
It’s crazy you want to arm “evil people”.
>>769038102
What are you even talking about? Either misread the reply to someone else, or misclicked the reply. Not even relevant to that thread of convo
>>769037860
I'm not retarded. Your premises don't support your conclusion. Learn statistics.
>>769037942
>I am a vet
>Every word is capitalized
I seriously fucking doubt it, retard.
>8 is now a dozen
Common core at it's finest
>>769038378
No. I don't want to arm evil people, but I accept that nothing can be done in a free society to stop the evil people from getting the tools they want to commit their crimes. The only solution is to be vigilant and stop them when they act. I value my free society more than I value the safety I'd have locked up in a straightjacket in a padded room depending on my "betters" to decide what was good for me.
>>769038477
>Oh shit the found out in a neckbeard quick call them a nigger faggot
Figger Naggot
>>769037859
England has a lot of knife violence.
>>769038520
Nobody wants your guns or to throw you in a padded room. Paranoia and complacency at its finest.
Why try? Should be your motto.
>>769038378
Good people don't go out and shoot up schools. Your comment is a good example of why the left wants CONTROL. I have no demons. I own guns and shoot. Those aren't demons.
You see all of us as bad and we must all be put under the control of the government. I see people as mostly good.
>>769038636
Stats disagree. There is more than america but far less than our combined knife an gun violence.
>>769038120
>>769038477(you)
Samefag
>>769038683
Control isn’t a bad thing. We do after all have a government who is supposed to enact control.
>>769038728
Nope
>>769038699
America having a lot of violent crime doesn't prove that violence is caused by guns.
>>769038755
The American Government's job isn't to control its citizens, it's job is to protect our Rights.
>Your premises don't support your conclusion
This should be fun.
How so?
>Learn statistics.
What?
>>769038654
Sure they do. Feinstein has said that she would ban them all if she could. The left has come out and been open in their support of bans recently. They are always pushing for just one more "compromise." Just one more "reasonable" gun law. Their goal is to ban everything so only the government and the rich have them with their bodyguards.
>>769032574
Imagine being this retarded
>>769038755
No we don't. We have a government which has specific enumerated powers. I don't see gun control in that list.
>>769038624
>Oh shit the found out in a neckbeard
What?
>quick call them a nigger faggot
>Figger Naggot
That's cute. What was the first part?
>>769038220
You should see how many English pedo rings are being covered up. It’s actually quite shocking.
>>769038846
It’s job is rule the land with laws, shitty paperwork, and taxes.
>>769038858
There being a lot of violent crime in America doesn't prove that the violent crime is caused by guns.
>>769030404
Not how it works, retard.
Unlike your communist world view, there is such a thing as personal responsibility. Blaming the NRA for someone going on a killing spree is just as retarded as blaming the auto unions for Islamic trucks of peace.
>>769039008
I’m not into pedo news. Got enough with 10 more dead yesterday.
>>769038791
>>769039024
Look at where the crime is and what groups are doing it. The crime is typically inner city gang and drug related. Stay out of the corrupt shitholes like Chicago and you're fairly safe.
>>769039094
Not big on jokes today.
>>769039080
Point is, if the English wanted to keep you from knowing about something they’re extremely good with it.
>>769030404
absolutely agree
>>769039024
Okay, what happens when you make it harder for EVERYONE to do violent bullshit with gun restrictions?
>>769038958
>Oh shit *they found out *i'm a neckbeard,
>What?
>quick call them a nigger faggot
>Figger Naggot
>That's cute. What was the first part?
Sorry phone posting is trash
fucking autocorrect
>>769030404
hit 'share' if you agree!
>>769039183
K but I can’t remember the last school shooting in Europe. Australia had its worst in 20 years and some how we went bigger in the same month.
>>769039191
Isn't it great? We've got people who think a group which defends a Constitutional right (the NRA) is a terrorist organization. This is a group which has never promoted violence. They lobby for our Constitutional rights and teach gun safety.
On the other hand we have groups like Antifa which are violent terrorists and have proven it. Do you think they're terrorists?
>>769036329
Show me one pace of NRA doctrine that preaches any type of violence.... oh wait you cant cause your ignorant.
>>769039232
You can't We've got over 300 million guns. We've got them and you can't take them. If you try the violence goes WAY up.
>>769039308
Neither can I, but banning guns won’t ban violent retards
>>769036329
Antifa is loosely grouped because they're a terrorist organization. If they had a rigid hierarchy they would have a point where you can attack them. Antifa wears masks so that it's harder to know who the terrorists are when they attack people. (With bike locks for example.) The NRA has a formal organization because they're a legal group who advocates rights and safety.
>>769038477
Dubs of truth my dude.
>>769039377
I don't want to take the guns you have now. I want to create regulations that prevent unhinged retards from buying guns in the future with ease.
>>769039238
Ah, got it. Nice meme. Hopefully your shitposting improves after this talk.
>>769039588
Nobody wants to ban guns you retard. If you truly support the NRA you believe in compliance and accountability for the firearms you own.
Every shitposer on here
>>769038832
Youre right, its only a correlation. The numbers alone dont prove a cuase. Peer reviewed research on the topic confirms an undeniable link between having a gun and using it though.
>>769039651
Problem is you can't. It's already illegal for someone who's a prohibited person to buy or possess a gun. When you go beyond that you start getting into infringement on the rights of honest people who have done nothing wrong. You start getting into registration and confiscation for the good of the people. It's not for the good of the people it's for control. Hillary was saying something when she called those of us that disagree with her Irredeemable and Deplorable. Those are terms the commies would use before sending them off to a camp on a one way trip. I know the left doesn't think much of people who disagree with them, but I'll guarantee you we have people who are just as smart, and just as educated on our side. We just disagree with you. We will violently disagree if you push the point far enough. Statistically I'm far more at risk from my own government than I am a thug on the street. I'll keep my guns and protect myself and mine from both to the best of my ability and training.
>>769039702
>If you truly support the NRA you believe in compliance and accountability for the firearms you own.
And what of the unregistered guns that all gang members use? Should we not hold them accountable for their gun violence too?
>Nobody wants to ban guns
Statistically false
>>769039352
>duh
>starwman
>durr
>you stoopid
Nobody needs to take away your guns. The way it would work is like Canada where you're not allowed to have your gun with you anywhere
>>769039997
Teens don’t need mag fed semi auto rifles unless they are in the Military. Bump sticks should also be illegal.
Start there.
>>769040155
Bill of rights not bill of needs faggot
>>769040207
I have the right not to get shot by a 2nd amendment hero.
>>769039599
>who advocates rights and safety
No. They advocate for the intrests of gun manufacturers. If they were intrested in safety they wouldnt wouldnt lobby against the same things they then deride politicians for failing to implement.
>>769039702
I am accountable for my firearms. I own them and keep them locked up properly. I also am responsible for every bullet I fire. I follow the rules of gun safety.
On the other hand you're either lying or full of shit. Look up Feinstein turn them in mr mrs america if you don't want proof that at least one person in the government actively wants to ban our guns. Someone who has historically held a position of power in the Democrat party.
>>769039232
You could end up with more knife violence.
>>769040262
You have the right to bear arms and defend yourself faggot
>>769040155
What about the teen in OK who held of the home invasion w/ an AR15? I see the "Start there" on your gun ban list. Why don't you continue with what you'd ban after that?
>>769039232
What makes you think taking away peoples guns will make them less violent?
>>769040289
Good for you, I don’t want your guns. How about finding a way to keep guns from irresponsible owners?
>>769040314
You obviously have never seen combat.
>>769040270
No. There are advocacy groups for the gun manufacturers. The NRA at least in theory is the voice of those of us who are members. There are a huge amount of us who are vehemently against gun control.
>>769030404
yayayayaa stupid shill. Trying to take guns again you jewslave? yeah go eat more kike schlong and execute urself.
>>769040381
I don’t give a fuck if you have a bazooka as long as it’s registered.
>>769030404
We 're so blessed not having this kind of organization in our country
>>769040262
No. That's not listed in your rights. Why are you worried about "2nd amendment heros" anyway? Are you a thief? Are you worried you might get shot while stealing something?
> It's already illegal for someone who's a prohibited person to buy or possess a gun
Include domestic abusers, violent retards, and autists in that list. Increase standard of enforcement.
>When you go beyond that you start getting into infringement on the rights of honest people who have done nothing wrong.
The only reason the speed limit exists is to minimize the already ridiculously large death toll because a lot of honest citizens are morons. Why can't we do the same for guns?
>You start getting into registration and confiscation for the good of the people
Just registration.
> It's not for the good of the people it's for control
Control is for the good of the people, what?
> Hillary was saying something when she called those of us that disagree with her Irredeemable and Deplorable.
Who cares?
>Those are terms the commies would use before sending them off to a camp on a one way trip.
No, those aren't the terms commies used before sending them off to a camp. Show me where you got this information.
>but I'll guarantee you we have people who are just as smart, and just as educated on our side
Sure, the problem is they are pandering an agenda through fear and the people who vocalize these talking points on Facebook or on here are generally morons who don't understand that they are fear mongering.
>We just disagree with you.
That's fine.
>We will violently disagree if you push the point far enough.
That's retarded.
>Statistically I'm far more at risk from my own government than I am a thug on the street.
That's wrong.
> I'll keep my guns and protect myself and mine from both to the best of my ability and training.
Keep your guns, let us protect school kids by not allowing spergs to purchase weapons.
>>769040582
>>769039997
Didn't quote, whoopsie.
>>769040564
Not a criminal.... neither were 9 kids.
>>769040449
Combat implies two individuals fighting, try again
>>769040626
>Muh chiiiiiiildren!
>>769040410
How do you propose to do that without infringing on the rights of honest gun owners? How do you propose to do it without taking all the guns? How do you propose to do it without taking all the 3D printers and all the machine tools in the country? I could turn out a machinegun in a weekend w/ hand tools if needed. I don't because it would be illegal.
>>769040674
Exactly... they are our kids and you fucking failed them.
>>769040542
And if I had a bazooka it would be a DD and would be registered under the GCA 1934.
>>769040387
By making something harder to do a lot of them will just give up out of sheer laziness. Also, I don't want to take your guns, increase the restrictions to include domestic abusers, and spergs and increase the quality of enforcement on gun sales.
>>769040722
Feels over reals, typical. Go buy a gun and kill off the mentally ill
>>769040582
You can do the math on people murdered in the 20th century. It's well in excess of 100 million by governments. As best I can find it's probably 10 million or less by people who aren't part of the government. You are far more likely to get killed in a government purge than murdered on the street. Especially if you don't hang out with criminals.
>>769040737
Domestic violence has prohibited gun ownership since the Lautenberg Amendment.
>>769040680
it’s easier to buy a weapon for killing than it is to get a passport in the US. Also fuck gun shows.
>>769040947
Buying from gun shows requires licensing too anon. Keep digging though you’ll get to a reasonable argument soon
>>769040896
Excellent, we're already half way there. Although, have fooled me. There are a lot of murders of partners during a domestic altercation news out there. Thanks for the citation, I'll read into this more.
>>769040947
Gun ownership is a Constitutionally protected right. If I buy from a dealer I still have to fill out a 4473 and either do a NICS check or show a CCW depending on the state. That doesn't change at gun shows. There are no special laws for gun shows.
You know what's interesting? I have to do a 4473 and background check for a gun. Even a 22 derringer. I can go to a car dealership pay cash up front and buy their biggest four wheel drive truck or fastest sports car and drive it off the lot with zero background check.
>>769041253
>I can go to a car dealership pay cash up front and buy their biggest four wheel drive truck or fastest sports car and drive it off the lot with zero background check.
You have a drivers license, right? Are you being intentionally stupid?
>>769041159
See the problem is you're advocating banning things and doing prohibiting people without knowing the current state of the law. Guns are traceable from the manufacturer to the point of first sale. People who are prohibited due to mental illness or criminal offenses are already prohibited from buying guns or possessing them. At what point do you decide that making it double plus illegal isn't going to work because they are fucking CRIMINALS who don't obey the law.
>>769041437
I can buy a car without a drivers license. I just can't legally drive it on the street.
>>769041253
How many have to die before you are at least willing to acknowledge a problem?
>>769041494
>and drive it off the lot
>>769041494
I can hijack a plane. Defending criminals is building on quicksand.
>>769041497
There is a problem. The problem is with criminals and a legal system that coddles them. The problem is with schools who don't report crimes and keep putting people in first offender status to keep their crimes in school down and to keep the little felons in school to keep the money flowing from the state.
There is not a problem with honest citizens enjoying an Constitutionally protected right.
>>769041531
You think the car dealer is going to check my drivers license if I walk in and say I want to buy that car and pay cash? They want IDs to finance or test drive. To the best of my knowledge if I walk in and buy it I'm not required to show drivers license. No 4473 for cars.
>>769041613
Weekly school shootings beg to differ. Drum up whatever excuse you have for any individual shooting but this shit is fucking happening far too often anymore.
>>769041461
>See the problem is you're advocating banning things and doing prohibiting people without knowing the current state of the law. Guns are traceable from the manufacturer to the point of first sale
I don't see it as a problem. If I come to a public forum and present an argument based on ignorance someone like you can come along and link relevant information that I can read up and my position can evolve from there. This is excellent discourse. The problem happens when people spew fear-mongering propaganda and throw around buzz words expecting to convince any rational thinking adult with those alone.
>Guns are traceable from the manufacturer to the point of first sale
It's still legal for someone who purchased a gun legally to sell it to some rando on the street, right? Why?
While the regulations exist, it clearly is not enough.
>>769041605
How is hijacking a plane (something which is malum in se) the same as buying a car which is legal?
>>769041688
They're not going to let you drive anything anywhere without a valid drivers license, it's a little disheartening that you don't know this.
