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1
1
anal sex
9
Pemdas. 3/(1/3)=9, 9+1=10, 10-9=1
7
1
1
but holy fuck is that a retarded way to write out a calculation.
>>768937497
thats literally the fucking point
>>768936778
laurel
>>768936778
Division always comes first before addition and subtraction, therefore it is 9.
>>768936778
i have a phd in physics and it is obvious to me that the answer is 9.
anybody who says 1 doesn't understand advanced mathematics
#feeltheBern
>>768938367
care to explain how you got 9? Just saying it's 9 isn't enough.
>>768938612
9 - 3 : 1/3 + 1=
9 - 3:3 + 1=
9- 1 + 1 =
8 + 1 =
9
>>768938668
so 1/3 just turns into 3 on it's own?
>>768938367
Show your work.
"I have a physics degree" sounds like: I disagree and I'm asserting ma authority whether I'm wrong or not.
Showing your work says: here, learn a thing from an expert.
Guess which one makes you cooler.
>>768938775
exactly
>>768938855
3 ÷ 1/3 is 9 though...
>>768938855
1/3=3
>quick maths
>>768938252
no u
>>768938855
>>768938896
Unless you're gonna to all "well 1/3 is 1 ÷ 3, so.its 9 ÷ 1 ÷ 3. In which case I get it.
But to just throw out the answer without explaining that makes you a bit of a snobby bastard over what is a sloppily written formula.
42
>>768937772
You know the rule and still get it wrong. Nice work.
>>768938970
learn maths from an expert
>>768938668
>>768936778
1. PEMDAS bitch
>>768938775
>>768938855
that bullshit has division written out in 2 different ways.
it translates to 3/1/3.
so in order you get 3/1=3 then 3/3=1.
>>768939293
and how is that wrong?
>>768938903
No no no no..what you're doing is quik maffs
>>768938668
Retard, you can't simply change 1/3 to 3/1 like that.
The correct way of doing it is:
9 - 3 : 1/3 + 1
9 - 3 * 3 + 1
9 - 9 + 1
= 1
>>768938668
You forgot the brackets. It's 9 - 3 / (1 / 3) + 1.
>>768936778
1, because:
3 div 1/3 = 3/1 div 1/3 = 3/1 * 3/1 = 9
9 - 9 + 1 = 1
>>768936778
1. Hi there, essay anon again. This one was easy.
>>768939451
>"Retard, you can't simply change 1/3 to 3/1 like that."
>simply changes 1/3 to 3
0
>>768939587
Hey anon, you know like last time, we need prood it's 1.
>>768938367
care to say what your dissertation was on? cuz i think it was on bullshit, because you're full of it. the answer is 1, and it doesn't take "advanced mathematics" to figure it out. it's simple order of operations (PEMDAS, BEDMAS, whatever abbreviation you wanna use)
>>768939599
3/1 is 3
>>768936778
3 / (1/3) = 3 * (3/1)
You use the reciprocal when dividing fractions.
PEMDAS/PEDMAS
Parentheses then exponent then (mult/div) then (add/subs)
>>768936778
It's 19
>>768939826
Forgot to say the answer it's 9
>>768936778
This is why no one uses the obelus after elementary school
>>768938367
The degree must be in theoretical physics. Maybe you are correct in some parallel universe, but you are flat wrong in this one.
>>768936851
9-3÷X/3+X
9-9X+X
9-10X
9-10(1)
1
>>768939708
but 1/3 is not 3
>>768940030
>let's not use this symbol because people are dumb
>>768938367
>>768938367
Claims to have a PhD. Doesn’t understand basic math, capitalization, or punctuation.
>>768940110
I'm retarded. I forgot that when you divide a fraction, you can change the middle part to 3 x 3/1. So it's 9-9+1. 1
>>768936778
it's 9 you dumbasses
>>768940200
It's literally just used to get children used to the concept of division. If you are mentally older than 8 you don't need it
Its 3
>>768940785
1 retard. See >>768940603
Division before addition. Addition before subtraction.
9 - 3 / (1/3) + 1
9 - 9 + 1
9 - 10
-1
>>768937662
Yanny
It actually is 1
3 divided by 1/3 is 9, so 9-9+1 = 1
>>768941030
Addition doesn't come before subtraction though, they have equal priority
>>768940200
It adds ambiguity because the numerators and denominators are not clearly defined
>>768941192
PEDMAS
A>S
>>768936778
#theday4chanbecamefacebook
>>768941289
You are wrong.
>>768941233
You are also wrong
>>768939599
>simply changes 1/3 to 3
And : into *
>>768941233
So you're saying people don't know how to think?
>>768941340
Please tell me more about how you are more intelligent than the mathematicians that developed the ISO 80000-2
>>768941388
>changes things randomly
why not change the entire problem while you're at it
>>768941340
it’s PEDMAS not PE(DM)(AS)
So you’re wrong. If there’s any ambiguity in the priority, division comes before multiplication, and addition comes before subtraction.
The reason it exists is to remove ambiguity.
>>768941427
The number on the left of the symbol is the numerator and the number on right is the denominator.
It is clearly defined.
>>768938367
PhD in physics.. what were u researching bruh
>>768936778
I cannot, I can't even read or write
>>768941514
As a non mathematician, what does pedmas stand for?
>>768939662
Like I said. I'll leave proving it to someone else this time as I got in late last night (late night out with the missus watching Deadpool 2) and had a long day of teaching autistic kids. If I get bored again I'll give it a go.
Short answer is that horizontal bars act like grouping in the same way parentheses do.
>>768941514
wrong moron
>>768941482
Because the changes carried out do not change the problem: a division by 1/x can be substituted by a multiplication by x.
Then again, maybe you are still too young to understand elementary maths.
>>768941407
I'm saying that without brackets it is ambiguous if the equation meant 3 / (1/3) or (3 / 1) / 3
9 - 3 : (1 / 3 + 1)
9 - 3 : 1.3..
9 - 2.25
6.75
>>768941514
You are hilariously wrong.
>>768936778
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07Abat5iBbw
>>768941623
Godspeed anon, hopefully we'll crack this one. See you tomorrow.
>>768941514
division is simply the multiplication of the reciprocal and subtraction is simply the addition of a negative. thus, multiplication and division have the same priority and so does addition and subtraction.
>>768941030
how the fuck did you get 9 from 3/(1/3)?
no
>>768941652
so why did you choose to make 1/3, 3/1 ad didn't ake 3/1 1/3 since has priority
>left to right
>>768941519
It is not clear if the number on the right of the obelus is a 1 or 0.3 repeating
>>768936778
Sinh(4lnx)+C
>>768941611
Parentheses
Exponents
Division
Multiplication
Addition
Subtraction
Why would PEDMAS even be defined if it is to be ignored when it assists people calling people a moron online?
>>768941711
it's obviously (3/1)/3
left to right has priority
>>768941514
I literally wrote an essay yesterday with sources proving that addition and subtraction have identical precedence and are solved left to right. Hold on while i fetch a link for you...
>>768941827
Multiplication of the reciprocal.
3 / (1/3), reciprocal of (1/3) is 3
3 * (3) = 9
>>768941871
literal retard
>>768938367
bait : the post
>>768941936
When the obelus is used next to a vertical fraction, it is ambiguous if the fraction is meant to be sustained
>>768941815
Pretend all you want to an anonymous person online but you are wrong. Go back to school, get yourself an education and then get a decent job, then come back here and admit you’re wrong. Because you are wrong. That’s why you’re arguing online in mommy’s basement instead of doing whatever successful people do.
>>768941871
I actually don't quite get what you wrote. Anyway: 3 divided by "1 over 3" is not 3 divided by one divided by three. "1 over 3" is a fraction and it is treated as a single entity. So 3 divided by "1 over 3" is equivalent to 3 divided by 0.333… or 3*3.
>>768942092
When the brainlet runs out of logic he resorts to ad hominem
>>768942091
left to right anon
>>768941892
The number is a division expressed as a fraction. A fraction is a grouping unto itself just like parentheses. The number beside the obelus is 0.3 recurring.
>>768936778
89/9
>>768941973
damn i'm retarded.
for other retardeds:
3/(1/3) can be expressed as 3/0.(3) and that comes to 9
>>768942179
It is ambiguous if the number to the right is a fraction (0.3 repeating) or not. I don't know why you're so fervently arguing this because I'm simply saying the equation is poorly written garbage.
>>768942133
no its 3/1/3, but cause the priority is left to right, its (3/1)/3, that division symbol is confusing you anon.
>>768942198
Do you have a source for that?
>>768942272
it/'s the same as 1/3, what don't you get?
>>768942308
1/3 isn't part of the problem. "1 over 3" is. Check your elementary maths books.
>>768941827
You're dividing by a fraction, use your calculator app on 3÷.333
>>768942396
It's not the same as 1/3 because fractions are single entities
>>768942478
but both are 0.3, so it's just 2 ways to write things.
>>768942478
Holy shit.
9 - 3 / 1:3 + 1
3 / 1:3 = 3 * 3:1
3 * 3:1 = 9
If you’re arguing over the non-ambiguous part of the equation, you should just stop.
>>768936778
MOOODS
>>768942388
None I can link from my phone while at work. Give me 30min to get home.
1
Rolling
9:1 - 3:1 / 1:3 + 1:1
9:1 - 9:1 + 1:1
0:1 + 1:1
1:1
Or
9:1 - 10:1
-1:1
-1
The author of the equation needs to explain the order of prescience because of the ambiguity.
>>768942563
There's an important difference in how they are handled. 1 over 3 (fraction) is treated as a group whereas 1/3 is just an expression that can be interfered with by other operators around it.
>>768941951
>>768942996
Save yourself and get out. I've been arguing the same thing for the past half hour and these tards just won't have it
>>768942459
yup. 9
pic related
>>768941905
Ah, the hierarchy of equation-solving. I learned that but didn't know it had a name, thanks bro
>3/(1/3)=3/3
1
>>768936778
9 - 9 + 1
>>768942674
Until I see a source that says fractions are rational numbers rather than operators I'm sticking to the ambiguity
Nain
>>768936778
6 gorillion
>>768943495
They don't need to be. Horizontal bars are a grouping.
>>768936778
9 - 3 ÷ 1/3 + 1
Multiplication/division comes before addition/subtraction. So we have to work out 3 ÷ 1/3 first.
Dividing by a fraction is the same as multiplying by its reciprocal, so we can write this as 3 × 3/1, which is the same as 3 × 3, which is 9
9 - 9 + 1
0 + 1
1
>>768941289
No
P
E
MD
AS
>>768943495
>>768938367
>i have a phd in physics and it is obvious to me that the answer is 9.
troll detected
>>768943625
citation needed
>>768943839
Perfect. Answer is 9 then
>>768936778
one
>>768944266
>>768936778
I might be an idiot but, doesn't artihmatic prioritize exponents first, multiplitaction/division second and addtion/subtraction last??
9 - 3 _
--------- = 4,5000
1/3 + 1 =====
I'd like to make it clear that I'm a blacksmith.. Not a mathmagician.
>>768945210
well.. I said I was an idiot... to clairify, my answer is 4,5
>>768941030
You're almost not retarded. Add and subs have the same place in PEMDAS. So 9-9 = 0 + 1 = 1
>>768945194
Yea I replied here >>768944329 already
>>768936778
3 divided by one third is 9
9 minus 9 is 0
0 plus 1 is 1
Learn the fucking rule. MD left to right, AS left to right
>>768945210
>>768945426
What am I even looking at
>>768946246
This
>>768945972
Then you failed to understand. The bar acting as parentheses means that the 1 over 3 resolves first to become 0.3 recurring because PEMDAS. P is unambiguously first over the rest of the problem.
>>768946557
I meant 3 divided by 1 over 3 is 9 not the whole equation lul
>>768936778
Majority of /b/ are pure retarded shitbags
-> 9 - 3 ÷ 1/3+ 1 =
= 9 - 3/1/3 + 1 =
(Using maths rules from left to right)
= 9 - 3/3 + 1 =
= 9 - 1 + 1 =
= 9
Now explanation to faggots who think it's 1
if it were
> 9 - 3 ÷ (1/3) +1
Look faggots (1/3) in brackets
Maybe to make it look a but more idiotic:
> 9 - 3 ÷ (1 ÷ 3) + 1 =
Look faggots
> = 9 - 3 ÷ [ 3^(-1) ] + 1 =
Let me expain what I did here faggots
1/3 = 3^(-1) <formula for this below>
> = 9 - 3 × 3 + 1 =
OK you stupid faggots what did I do here?
-> m ÷ n^(-k) = m × n^k (for n!=0)
Lets continue
> = 9 - 9 + 1 =
Now faggots using the very basic math rules
> = 0 + 1 =
> = 1
Get on my level you stupid fags
>>768946557
Yes, and 0.(3) divided by 3 is 9.
what level of retardation do you have to achieve before you think its anything but:
9 - (3 / 1/3) + 1
9 - (3/1 * 3/1) + 1
9 - 9 + 1
1
>>768947033
Your problem is not understanding hierarchy of denominator. One third becomes it's own term of subdivision. It's three over one third not three over one over three. If that were true, you could never solve nested fractions correctly. Always evaluate fractions "bottom up" aka inside to outside
>>768947053
>>768946962
Okay good. So we all agree the overall answer to the problem is 1.
Unless anyone else wants to ignore a source?
it's 9
>>768941388
Yeah, basic mathematics.
3 * 3 = 3 / (1/3)
Multiply something by x is the same as dividing it by 1/x and vice versa.
>>768947033
>When you start using powers in a simple PEMDAS problem
Bet you use differential equations to solve 2+2
>>768936778
9 if you don't know this you are completely retarded.
>>768939451
Nigger are you for real?
9 - 3 / (1/3) + 1
3/(1/3) can be written as (3/1)/(1/3) which can be written as 3/3 which is 1. Multiplication/division are the first part of the equation.
So now we have 9-1+1=9
>>768947459
Weak bait.
>>768947565
>9 - 3 / (1/3) + 1
>>768947033
This >>768947268
Also, you can easily divide a fraction by flipping it and multiplying it instead. 3*3/1
so 9-9+1 = 1
>>768947321
>>768947459
>>768947565
Refer to
>>768945194
In which 1 over 3 is solved as though it were in parentheses. You are all wrong, I even gave you evidence.
>>768947565
>(3/1) / (1/3) can be written as 3 / 3
>>768946386
the answer
>>768947955
oh he thinks the 9-3 is the numerator and (1/3) - 1 is the denominator. Nah the obelus only operates on the number to the left and right
>>768936999
trips dont lie
>>768947565
3/1 / 1/3
not 3/1 * 1/3
Do you understand?
Shouldn't it be negative 1?
3/(1/3)=9
Add the 1 first cause pemdas
Get 9-10
Not 10-9 you fucking degenerates, you get -1
>>768941030
- 9 + 1 is not -10
>>768946246
Why are you subtracting and not adding first nigger?
>>768950430
Literally doesn't matter for those operations.
>>768936778
>y those have $0!!?
>>768947268
>>768947441
>>768947673
Dont breed. People like you are ruining the human race bloodline.
3÷1/3 is same as 3÷1/3 just as 3÷1÷3 IS SAME
Notation is confusing you shits
Using rule left to right
3/1/3 = 3/3 = 1
Idiots. Stupid idiots. This is why world has gone to hell
This guy knows ->
>>768947565
>>768950635
>yfw
>>768950635
A fraction is treated as a rational number, not an expression. If you don't know what either of those mean you should probably just take a seat in the back
>>768936778
9-3/⅓+1=
6/ 4/3=
18/4=
9/2=
4½
>>768947898
If this was true then (1/1) / (1/3) could be written as 1/3 which makes zero sense.
>>768951066
NIGGA WHAT
>>768951157
>doesn't understand parody
>>768950557
You're telling me 9-10 is the same as 10-9?
3 devided by 0.3333333333... etc=9 (rounded up)
so 9-9+1=1 you fucking losers
>>768951718
It's 1
9 - 3 /(1/3) + 1
9 - 3*3 + 1
9 - 9 + 1
1
retards eveywhere
it's 1
Folks what we have here is a big fat 0
>>768951718
I am not even close to implying this.
Did any of you pass Middle School
The answers is clearly 1...
how can you fail that hard
>>768952008
Who are you talking about ?
-1
>>768936999
you didnt even do pemdas right
>>768952145
1 sory
>>768936778
9 - 3 / (1/3) + 1 = 9 - 3 x 3 + 1 = 9 - 9 + 1 = 1
Because first divison and multiplication, then plus and minus.
If you divide via a fraction you multiply with the inverse...
>>768951718
|9 -10| = 10 - 9
>>768952222
quads forgive
>>768938668
bait, for anyone seriously wondering, division is multiplication by the reciprocal. so 3 : 1/3 is actually 3 x 3
>>768938668
>3 : 1/3 = 3 : 3
So this is the power of a physics phd...
>>768952674
3 / (1/3) = (3 * 3) / 1
>>768941030
fucking dope, how did you graduate 4th grade?
If you are still confused about why addition and subtraction are done left to right. Please see my essay, which there was a QR code for in an earlier picture. If you don't understand why 3 div 1 over 3 is not the same as 3 div 1 div 3, i also sourced evidence of treating the fraction bar as parentheses earlier in the thread.
I.e. the answer is 1. It doesn't matter how ambiguous the formatting is the conventions exist to navigate that ambiguity. Seriously. I am not putting in any more effort than this when i already proved conclusively that 6÷2(1+2)=9, then getting 3 hours sleep and spending my entire day working with SEN kids. I am a tired paper-anon.
>>768936778
9 - 3 = 6
6 / 1/3 = 18
18 + 1 = 19
>>768951718
Sorry, I am retarded.
>>768953080
u sound like such a beta fag right now lol