Ok, /b/aggots.
I just put on some new rims on my car. Tightened the bolts and one of them snapped. it's now lodged real fucking bad in there. How hard is it to replace that part? Do I have to change bearings and shit inside if i do replace it?
TL:DR Shit's stuck pliers don't work.
kek
>>767477432
Have fun
https://www.wikihow.com/Remove-a-Broken-Bolt
btw torque wrench: do you speak it , motherfucker?
>>767477432
You're a faggot. Let /diy/ know how big of a faggot you are and they'll advise you to use either bolt extractor or to drill the motherfucker out.
You'll need to drill that out. Apparently you can get extraction kits or see if you can find somewhere that sells reverse threaded drill bits. Just don't drill it clockwise.
>>767477432
are you serious? just hit it with a hammer
>>767477432
In your case, use a metal saw to saw a slot in it, then put a huge screwdriver in there to turn it.
>>767477492
I have seen that article, but no way it would grip the bolt at all.
I should invest in a torque wrench, yep. I have only recently taken up doing car maintenance on my own and tools are limited to a socket set, a ratchet and a breaker bar.
>>767477432
i would suggest you replace the spindle. looks fucking beat
>>767477540
This.
The saw/screwdriver option is OK, but I'd only try that with more of the bolt showing - looks like it sheared off really close to the back plate.
Also, if you're not careful with your saw, you can end up damaging parts around the bolt.
>>767477590
This guy knows... take the wheel off, hit the broken bolt with a hamme4, they are held in place by a head in the rear and small fins on the shaft that stop if from moving around while you have your wheel off, 2 decent blows and it will come out
>>767477609
The piece of shit bolt is only sticking out a bout a mil and a half, so i doubt that would work, sadly.
>>767477540
I have thought about drilling it. What if i gradually increase the drill bit size and just basically crush the bolt like a pringles can? I think that would give my pliers something better to grip at .
And if i destroy the threads i'm no more fucked than if the bolt was still stuck.
>>767477540
Fucking liar.
>>767477432
>Tightened the bolts
You mean, "the lugs"?
>>767477432
Get something to use as a chisel, and use a rubber mallet to knock it out, be gentle with it though.
Goodluck.
next time go to /o/ faggot.
>>767477609
No. This is wrong.
>>767477783
The spindle is what the bolts are driven into, yeah? How serious is that of a job? anything i can do myself?
>>767477432
Drill it out
go rent an easy out from autozone. drill into center of bolt, turn easyout into the hole counter-clockwise. insert easy out into drill, remove bolt. p simple OP.
alternatively, you can drill the bolt out
Use a hammer. They pop out
>>767478098
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9ooNNi--iE
>>767477540
>you can get extraction kits
OP do not fucking do this. Pull the rotor off and take it to an automotive machine shop and offer to pay cash to have them pull it.
>Tack weld another bolt onto it
>Remove broken bolt.
Or, replace the hub, easy! Dust cap, cotter pin castle nut, washer, two bearings
>>767477590
>are you serious? just hit it with a hammer
>>767477850
>This guy knows... take the wheel off, hit the broken bolt with a hamme4, they are held in place by a head in the rear and small fins on the shaft that stop if from moving around while you have your wheel off, 2 decent blows and it will come out
As you can plainly see from the image it's a bolt, NOT a stud; hammering it is not an option.
>>767478035
>You mean, "the lugs"?
Look at the picture again; bolts, not studs.
>>767477540
This is the best way.
Go to your choice of tools store and get a drill bit and an extractor. Drill through the bolt, put the extractor on a socket wrench, and back it out.
Heat will make it easier but not sure if you want to buy a MAPP tank and torch head for 1 bolt.
Both drill bit and extractor should be less than 15 dollars together
>>767478156
>Use a hammer. They pop out
Look at the picture; bolts, not studs.
>>767478328
Correct. If i break the threads (as i will if hammering) i'm as far as i am now. A wheel held on by four bolts and a broken spindle.
>>767478328
I've replaced these before....
>>767478472
He can use that MAPP for other shit, like plumbing.
>>767478306
if it's anything like my charger pursuit, the hub assembly comes as one piece and is removed and replaced by a dust cap, cotter, single 24mm nut
OP, what kind of shitty car is this?
>>767478472
What kind of caliber drill will be sufficient here? I own a Bosch plug-in one, but i have no clue if that will even dent the bolt.
>>767477432
it looks like you tried to use lug bolts for alloy wheels on steelies. They are too long, you needed the shorter bolts that are made for the rim.
Now you need a whole new car to fix this problem.
>>767477432
Hold a lighter to the bolt, wait a few mins for the remnants to liquify, wait for it to spill out of the bore in liquid form. Pressure wash remaining liquid metal out before it seats into the threads. Boom.
>>767477432
Everyone telling you to drill it is not a mechanic. The studs are splined inside. I could tell you why and how and shit but all you really need to know is hammer + punch = removed stud. Get new stud + a spacer + a lot of never seize. Stud goes in hole, spacer over stud, then lug nut, then tighten until its pulled all the way back in
>>767478588
Mercedes C180K. Rust because it's winter-driven for 15 years in snowy and salty Norway.
>>767478328
No faggot you are wrong. Hammer and punch. You obviously don't have the ability.
>>767478542
>I've replaced these before....
You do realize these aren't wheel studs? In the picture you can see the intact bolt and the other holes are threaded to accept BOLTS, not studs that are press fitted.
>>767478718
I'm a mechanic. I regularly remove broken studs by easy out/drill and tapping the hole for the new stud. it's not rocket appliances guy
>>767477432
I would try to grab it with vice grips and just spin it out.
>>767477432
Why don't you torch it out or weld a nut onto it? Don't have?
Weld another nut onto it or use a drill bit and retap
Soak a rag with Coke. Wrap around bolt. Soak some more and repeat for about 265 years. I saw this on YouTube. Coke is corrosive.
>>767478758
>No faggot you are wrong. Hammer and punch. You obviously don't have the ability.
Neither faggot I was replying to mentioned a punch (chisel would be a better option than a punch BTW), they said to hit it with a hammer presumably thinking it was a stud and could be pushed out the backside with a hammer, not a bolt.
>>767478852
I do my oil changes and brakepad-replacements. That's the extent of my experience and the extent of my tool-arsenal.
>>767478645
You need at least a .28 caliber semi-automatic powder actuated nail throwin mayhem.
>>767478647
>it looks like you tried to use lug bolts for alloy wheels on steelies. They are too long, you needed the shorter bolts that are made for the rim.
You do realize the bolt has to go through the rotor and the rim, right?
>>767479017
Ah... Well three bolts is plenty if you don't have to go far to a mechanic who can do it for you if it comes to that. Otherwise, try vise grips, or drill. It shouldn't really be all that tight in there as the tension is gone once the head broke off. Right now it's only held in by dirt and corrosion in the threads
>>767478133
>insert easy out into drill,
That’s how you get a broken easy out stuck into your broken bolt. You turn the easy out with a tap wrench.
OP here. From what i've read drilling it out or replacing the whole part are the most logical solutions here.
I assume a wired bosch-drill won't be powerful enough, so part-replacement is my only option here.
But before that happens i'll try the drilling and buy a penetrative oil and give it multiple showers. I only know of WD40. Will that do?
>>767478020
Fuck you.
https://www.harborfreight.com/screw-extractor-set-12-pc-61981.html
>>767477432
It looks like a stud that is driven in from the back. Sledge hammer on the back beside the stud and punch and hammer on the front. You should be able to drive it through then buy a new stud. 2 person job.
>>767479160
Or plyers. Like I said, shouldn't be tight really
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFdFsfSAuyc
after waxing use vice grips to remove
>>767479160
I thought so as well, but there's a lip in the back, and it's dug real good into it. It's not only thread friction holding it in at this point.
>>767479281
>It looks like a stud that is driven in from the back.
Please look at the picture again, it's obviously a bolt as you can clearly see the other holes are threaded.
>>767479254
Your drill should be plenty.
>>767479339
Ah, well that's some shit there. If you brought it to me, I'd probably charge like 50 bucks to do it. It would be pretty easy in a fully equipped shop with a welder and shit. I'm a small business guy though and have no idea how mechanics are where you are
>>767479081
yup
alloy rims are thicker so the lugs have an additional 6mm of non threaded shoulder, they bottom the threads out in the hub on steel wheels and break. You can see the wear marks in the hub where the wheel has been wobbling
Norway has no vehicle inspection laws? This sort of nonsense is explicitly examined in civilized country's.
>>767479446
I even put in one of the bolts to illustrate it was threaded, but it seems half the people here don't know what part we're talking here. I don't know if it's different in the US where you use lugs and lug nuts, but these are bolts and they thread in in the back.
>>767479517
I'm in Norway, and here we have no small time shops. I'd have to pay well over a hundred dollars at the chain shops if i took it to them. I try to do everything myself. I think being able to do shit yourself is valuable experience.
>>767479201
stop buying europoor grade tier easy outs and you don't have a problem m8
>>767479297
Well I'll be damned. That's pretty cool. Makes sense.
>>767479599
The rims are original MB rims, and so are the nuts.
Cars over five years or so are called in for examination every two years. We're one of the richest countries in the world when it comes to both GDP and quality of living, but nice try.
>>767479642
>I even put in one of the bolts to illustrate it was threaded, but it seems half the people here don't know what part we're talking here. I don't know if it's different in the US where you use lugs and lug nuts, but these are bolts and they thread in in the back.
Every vehicle I've worked on has had wheel studs, driven in from the back; break one, no big deal just hammer it out and drive in a new one. That's why I asked what kind of car this was, never seen one that used bolts instead of studs, obviously I've never worked on a Mercedes...
>>767477432
If you have access to a welder, just weld a nut to it and you can screw it out. Don't go an be a tard and snap it off again though
>>767479254
Dude pull the thing off and take it to a automotive machine shop. Dress like you're a poor fag and bring cash.
>>767480179
I think i'll have to at this point. I will try the drilling tomorrow, and if that doesn't work i'll just have to bite the bullet and give it to the shop.
>>767479339
>I thought so as well, but there's a lip in the back, and it's dug real good into it. It's not only thread friction holding it in at this point.
loosen the castle nut holding the hub on and that will relieve any pressure on the broken bolt
>>767477432
fiurst go to /o/
second get a tig welder weld another bolt to it and then turn it, if it snaps weld it again
>>767479961
I would day go to and ACE hardware store, they literally have everything, and get a counter clockwise threaded sheet metal screw. Then just drill a home slightly smaller than the screw through the center of the bolt and use it like a new head.
Not sure if you have ACE hardware in Norway though.
>>767480537
We do not, but getting an "opposite"-bolt/screw shouldn't be too hard. we have some big warehouse chains here who carry all the good shit.
>>767477432
I deal with this shit all the time.
In terms of likely availability for amateur mechanic:
1. Hammer and screwdriver, tap it in the direction to turn it out.
2. Drill it out(Google intrustions for that because I ain't writing out something simple). Benefits: If you're a man with a garage and you don't own a drill then either buy one or kill yourself.
3. Weld a nut onto it. This is my favorite option
>>767477432
I just had the same shit happen the other day.
Tap it out with a hammer and put another one in.
You might have to grind an edge off of the new stud to make it fit.
Also bend the backing plate.
>>767480728
Screwdriver and hammer will be tried tomorrow. If that doesn't work i hope my drills is good enough.
>>767479755
It absolutely is, I agree. But buying a welder for a one time job?
Good luck at any rate
>>767477432
your hub looks like complete shit btw. If you have the cash just get a new one. If not then do like other people said and reverse drill it
>>767480089
European cars in general use them. It's frustrating. They claim it's more resistant to wear, but I think the real reason is it's cheaper to manufacture a bold and thread a whole than to manufacture a stud, and lug nut.
>>767477432
Get a counter threaded bit and back that shit out.
Also, how nigger are you? Putting new rims on your rusted ass hooptie. Ffs man
>>767478328
Hammering is always an option.
>>767481146
This would work. I can drive with four bolts a week or two while it's on its way.
>>767479254
>This guy doesn't know about PB Blaster.
>>767481628
99kr shipping?
>>767481355
"new" repainted old ones.
>>767481774
like 15 dollars. Will be changing both and ordering the shield things behind them as well if i end up doing it. Ain't that bad.
>>767481672
Tell me about it, wise one.
>>767482036
It come in a can and you put it on shit that needs a loosening.
>>767477432
schweiss eine sechskantmutter darauf
Drill and easy out
SET YOUR ENTIRE CAR ON FIRE
>>767482283
Ich habe keine Schweissungs-aparat
I tried. I can read Deutsch, aber nicht sprechen y'know?
>>767482515
BUt the bolt would still be stuck after the fire, surely. Jet fuel cant cafdsfafafawdfa
>>767482621
AM I RITE?
wheel studs are knurled as in the picture.
a sturdy c-clamp and a socket on back you can push them out the back.
to seat new ones stack a few washers on the front side and flip the nut over so its flat and tighten.
millennial's are such faggots.
let my uncle yell at your bolt
>>767483036
Sorry, didn't notice you have faggoty threaded lug nuts. you're fucked, and still a faggot.
>>767483036
You cannot push them out the back. There's a lip there which it's buried into. I will not move past it.
>>767480164
This.