Convince me that the Earth isn't flat /b/
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Convince me that the Earth isn't flat /b/
>>752895736
first convince me you're not an idiot
>>752895736
I feel like you are the one that should convince us. Since you are the one that argues all against physics 'n stuff.
>>752895797
1 + 1 = 2
>>752895736
Go to school
This could only happen on a globe Earth
>>752896040
>>752895736
You've got some pretty silly ideas about the burden of proof, don't you?
The extraordinary claim that demands proof, is not that the earth is round. It's your job to convince everyone else that thousands of years of observed natural history somehow don't negate your pigheaded intuition.
>>752896186
this has finally convinced me that some people actually believe the earth is flat.
>>752895923
This.
People don't actually believe this, do they? I thought it was just trolls on the internet. I always underestimate how stupid people are.
read basic geography faget
>>752896479
It's mostly trolls, with some mentally disabled people actually believing it.
>>752896538
Yeah, that sounds about right. There is no way someone can believe this and not be actually retarded. Humanity fucked up when they started caring for the weak.
>>752895736
Gravity. All the water in that image would be pulled to the "north pole"
>>752896479
the vast vast majority are trolls, but the people who actually believe it are too stupid to realise this, so they are given false confidence to speak their mind more often. instead of being ashamed of their ignorance
Looks flat to me
>>752895736
Does this mean the longest flight in the word would be from the southern tip of South America to the south side of Australia?
>>752896942
world*
>>752896785
>to speak their mind more often. instead of being ashamed of their ignorance
And that's the most fun part, who dosn't like making fun of retarded people.
Its flat. Anyone who tries to tell you otherwise is regurgitating second, third, fourth hand knowledge and throw out their own common sense entirely. We need to stear the disscussion away from the red herring arguments such as the ice wall, luminaries in the sky, ect. Water always seeks and finds its level when unmaniplulated.. anyone who tells you other wise is a sophist and has formal science to try and denounce your natural science.
>>752895736
Whenever I get a package of plain M&Ms, I make it my duty to continue the strength and robustness of the candy as a species. To this end, I hold M&M duels. Taking two candies between my thumb and forefinger, I apply pressure, squeezing them together untiplease help me i want to diel one of them cracks and splinters. That is the “loser,” and I eat the inferior one immediately. The winner gets to go another round. I have found that, in general, the brown and red M&Ms are tougher, and the newer blue ones are genetically inferior. I have hypothesized that the blue M&Ms as a race cannot survive long in the intense theater of competition that is the modern candy and snack-food world. Occasionally I will get a mutation, a candy that is misshapen, or pointier, or flatter than the rest. Almost invariably this proves to be a weakness, but on very rare occasions it gives the candy extra strength. In this way, the species continues to adapt to its environment. When I reach the end of the pack, I am left with one M&M, the strongest of the herd. Since it would make no sense to eat this one as well, I pack it neatly in an envelope and send it to M&M Mars, A Division of Mars, Inc., Hackettstown, NJ 17840-1503 U.S.A., along with a 3×5 card reading, “Please use this M&M for breeding purposes.” This week they wrote back to thank me, and sent me a coupon for a free 1/2 pound bag of plain M&Ms. I consider this “grant money.” I have set aside the weekend for a grand tournament. From a field of hundreds, we will discover the True Champion. There can be only one.
>>752897012
That's why the pol star is not actually directly over the pol, but close enough to use it for orientation.
Fuck why am i even answering, i hate my brain for not being able to just let false statements be there.
>>752897012
Polaris is not permanently stationary. Due to precession the North Pole slowly drifts with a period of around 27,000 years.
Also, wouldn't Polaris be visible from South America and Australia if the Earth was flat?
>>752897305
It's not visible to the naked eye but yeah the earth is not a perfect ball.
>>752895937
2+2 is 4
>>752897428
4 + 4 = 8
>>752897428
minus 1 that's 3
Quick maths
>>752897428
-1 = 3 quick maffs
>>752896787
notice how in this flap picture all the landmass is distorted. This is because you can't project a round object onto a flat surface without it being distorted at some parts. There are different types of map projections used for different sized maps in aviation.
>>752897249
ITT people discover the scale of the Earth
I don't even know why I reply to this, oh well.
1- The eclipses of the moon are caused by the earth coming between the sun and the moon, unless the eclipse always occurred at a time when the sun was directly under the center of the disk, which can't be true because I saw how you guys in flat earth society describes the night/day. Thus, in your assumption there would be no eclipses at all on the moon.
2- If you are at the very north on Earth, you will see Polaris (North Star) above your head, but more you go down to the south, more you see Polaris lower in the sky.
3- If you are on a shore and a ship is coming toward you, why do we see the sails and only later the hull?
4- Eratosthenes (greek astronomer in around 200 B.C.) knew the Earth was round because of the sun's angle of elevation at noon between Syene and Alexandria.
5- If you look at the moon from the north and then from the south, you will see the moon upside-down.
6- If you are at sea-level and take some serious binoculars, you will see at x distance. Now, if you climb to the closest tree and look at the same path you were looking, you will be able to see further.
7- If the Earth is flat, then why does everything else in the universe is round? Gravity is an interaction field in which it law governs everywhere in space.
Don't give me any argument like : this is all fake because we are living in a computer simulator. I will fucking go 200% monkey on my keyboard and take out all my goddamn physic books to fucking shout my proofs in mathematics. Be warned you puked ill-nurtured maggot-pie.
>>752897012
FUCKING LOL DO YOU EVEN THINK BEFORE POSTING SOMETIMES, FUCKING LOL MY SIDESSSSSS
>>752897429
The water surface is curvy, doesn't mean earth is round
>>752898016
more pls
>>752897815
>using panorama pictures for evidence
It's always gonna look like a straight line on a panorama picture
>>752896040
not true
it would happen on a flat surface as well, as long as its rotating on an axis perpendicular to the surface
>>752898150
I'm a physics student, I have seriously no time to argue with this stupid fucking shit. I don't even have time to go 200% monkey after yall, you ambulant meat are lucky.
>>752898016
We live in a simulation
>>752896787
Thats called an azimuthal equidistant projection. The UN use that for their logo because its one of many ways to show the whole globe as a 2D image and this particular image is the more visually appealing
>>752898016
Let's be honest, if you zoom in on that ship, while you can only see the sails, you will pull the full ship into view. It's about your perspective.
>>752898302
Physics student here as well, semiconductors though so astro stuff is only undergrad. The funniest thing I've seen from the flat earthers is how they think night and day work
This theorie is a real problem.
So many tests "prove" its flat.
at the same time all these proves get debunked, then the debunk gets debunked.
>>752898016
this is all fake because we are living in a computer simulator
>>752895736
sunset
The horizon.
>>752898648
Yeah clearly the sun has a giant lamp shade around it... jesus
>>752899010
the sun is bright as fuck and the cloud is not dense. it just looks like that
Eratosthenes proved it centuries ago.
>>752895923
/This
No more FE threads for me.
>>752899323
also, look at her hair. its onviously sprayed.
why are they doing this
i dont think earth is flat, but why are they faking so many iss videos?
i have more, but they are over 2MB
>>752899010
They arent, those clouds are just more transparent than the rest of the clouds, because you know there are different clouds right, or do you retarded fucks actually believe all clouds are the same. The fuck are you faggots going to do when space travel becomes more available to the public? Claim its a hologram or some shit? People like you all need to be shot in the base of the skull for having a failed brain. You tried to take the redpill and failed and swallowed the fucking aids pill.
Why was the only time that we supposedly went to the moon the last time we went to the moon or anywhere past that? Hell, now we apparently "can't" go to the moon because we don't have the requirements, yet we were able to years ago.
>>752900120
Its called they retired all of the shuttles you fucking numb fuck, a basic understanding of history would show you this.
>>752895736
Take a plane, fly high enough, see curvature.
If you believe this bullshit about a conspiracy issuing all planes with fisheye windows to fake a curvature, take one of the planes that let you roll down the windows. A DC-3 or a Cessna, for example.
>>752900088
Continue to be spoon fed your false science that contradicts itself and believe the Earth is a globe with satellites and spacecrafts floating around it in the thermosphere constructed of metals with melting points of 1500 C, while the temperatures of the thermosphere reach around 2000 C
>>752900120
We could start a new project to go to the moon if we wanted to, but it is very expensive and kind of pointless, now that the space race is over...
>>752900329
>>752900329
i have seen oc videos from pilots and there was no curveature.
i dont even believe the earth is flat, but why are there so many uncertainties
>>752900462
Did you take this pic yourself?
Do you know in which height it was taken?
>>752895736
convince me it is
no really, why can't someone just take a plane and fly over the edge?
Or bump into the dome?^
>>752900537
Have you seen the Earth with your own eyes from space?
>>752900491
I've been up there, and there was a curvature.
>>752900578
as far as i know, nobody is allowed to fly over north and south pole.
there is a story of a pilot who did, and he wrote about new lands
>>752895736
>Step 1: Unretard the pile of shit that was placed where your brain should be
>Step 2: You are now convinced the earth is not flat
Well many minutes later still no proof against flat earth.. my belief hasnt moved at all
All i see is some evidence from flat earthers and name calling from balls licking earthers
>>752900329
No, you cannot clearly see any curvature within the atmosphere buddy, not a flat-earther but dont feed them wrong info and make it seem theres "uncertainty"
>>752900491
No uncertain, people -believe- they see a curvature from a plane, we cant. between the windows and the physiological response of wide panoramic causing a mental "curve".
>>752900612
No, but from high enough to notice a curvature.
Why did you not answer my questions?
>>752900658
So, what you see and what i see isnt the same but we both are sure we saw it for sure.
>>752900729
I assure you, OP is not B.O.B.
>>752900677
>allowed
it is not allowed to deal drugs, steal or murder someone
yet millions of people do
why does no flatter do it, live on facebook, instagram, youtube?
you'll have millions of people on your side if there's a live stream of the pilot of a plane go "see, there's the ice ring, the end of the *bump* ooopsie, i've hit the dome"
>>752900677
1) Planes are relatively cheap, if flat-earthers wanted to prove shit, they'd have done it.
2) Theres no way the whole of the arctic wall flat earthers believe in is guarded.at all times at all places
3) You can fly over the north and south pole. You can even travel to and explore it.
>>752899055
>>752899323
>>752899381
can anyone explain why they fake iss videos?
>>752900491
There are no uncertainties. Your inability to apply high school-level physics to the lies and distortions spread by flat Earthers doesn't constitute an uncertainty. Radio and optical horizons are something anyone can test with a minimal investment, but most of the people that can't simply think this through are too lazy to perform their own experiments.
>>752900462
Airforce pilot here, I've flown up to 50,000 and I've seen the curve, fly your plane to 50,000 and you'll see it too you fucking tards.
>>752900849
What evidence, besides your lack of understand of physics, do you have for them to be "faked"?
>>752900733
When this happens you apply the scientific method. We test the claims. Guess what? The fucking Greeks figured it out millennia ago.
>>752895736
Why don't I fall off the edge of the Earth when sailing
>>752900913
nasa pilot here, i tried to get to the moon but there was something in the way and i had to turn around
everyone can say shit retard
>>752901011
dick pilot here, i tried to reach your mom's vagina but there was something in the way and i had to turn around.
i think it was fat
>>752898124
"Water is curvy"
I think you mean round anon
>>752900957
explain to me why a drop of water is falling down in the regular speed it would on earth
>>752901011
>nasa pilot
>tried to get to the moon
Did you fucking steal a space plane?
>>752899997
post them
>>752900913
Show me a real image of said curve.
>>752899997
i can't explain.
rumour has it that's just because they're not fake, bzt what do i know
>>752895736
if it is flat...where is the edge...besides in this post faggot!!!
>>752900957
i love how every time when people dont know what to say anymore become offensive
>>752900710
>checkmate athiests
Can someone explain geosynchronous satellite orbits to me using a flat-earth model, and how that is possible in a flat earth?
>>752900957
If you watch the last video, you clearly see something drop in the background unaffected by gravity. Your ignorance and lack of perception is why you're a ball licker.
>>752901090
i was joking you fucking idiot
i wanted to show if someone claims something on 4ch, its probably fake
>>752901246
Not a flatard but they will say they use balloons in atmosphere to accomplish the tasks
>>752901255
You tard, did you think I didnt realize that? At least try harder man, "nasa pilot"?
>>752900612
>Have you seen the Earth with your own eyes from space?
Skydiver here, I've seen the effect of losing objects (lighthouses) below the optical horizon as I descend, so I've seen the practical effect of our curvature.
>>752901249
>>752901081
that droplet is definitely weird. it could be built up pressure in a water nozzle that simply released a droplet downward.
>>752900491
It’s not as if there exists readily available software that’s designed to correct fisheye lenses and if used on regular lenses would reduce curvature in the image. Things like this simply do not exist.
>>752901081
>>752901249
It came from off-screen. How do you know it is:
A) a water droplet
B) not having been acted upon
>>752895736
if you think about vinyl record that's spinning at 33 1/3 rpm, think about the "flat earth".
there's a problem there if you think about it. this occurred to me because i have hundreds of hours experience as a vinyl dj. the center of the record is barely moving fast but the edge is moving really fast.
here's a mix of mine. i'm drunk and stoned and i needed something to end the waking session i just went through. i made this series of mixes with technics turntables and the classic radio shack mixer. details are on the youtube page. i spent many hours remastering the mixes; removing all pops and clicks in goldwave.
https://youtu.be/g26b84YypD0?list=PLvxnr3-eNv10tcHqUeVDhmSPqE2gXQOT6
>>752901576
and why would like 20 pilots do this?
>>752900491
Nothing is certain Faggot. You can’t even prove that you weren’t born yesterday and all the memories were planted in your head when they pulled you out of the lab. Despite the uncertainty, should you believe that actually happened?
>>752901584
Sorry, maybe this wasn't enough.
>>752901667
troll acount
i can't decide which one, though
>>752901081
What proof do you have that it's A) water B) falling at C) Earth-normal gravity?
>>752901722
This is the only proof I need, lul. Good post anon.
>>752901154
Offensive? I'm serious - a high-school graduate should be able figure this out.
Nothing with the mass of earth can sustain itself as a disc-like shape in space. No evidence of anything massive in space that is flat/plate shaped.
If somehow the earth was flat, gravitational attraction towards the edges would be extremely high - you'd notice objects attracting at a higher rate (rainfall), and walking would be much harder, as if you were going up hill.
And that's just one of the obvious facts and there are hundreds more (including star locations, the surface of the moon changing appearance, the fact that we have night/day cycles extremely different to other parts of the GLOBE)
i wish there was a source you could trust on everything.
>>752901576
For the same reason hundreds of retards made hoax videos about the hundreds of Vegas shooters that the MSM didn’t cover.
>>752901081
Looks like unaccelerated motion to me. There's only like a foot of headroom there so wherever that thing came from, it was really nearby. In earth gravity it would have started moving slowly and accelerated as it moved down.
What I saw was something moving quickly and steadily, which is what you'd expect in space if the object had some initial velocity. If it's a water droplet, maybe it was "squirted" from a bottle.
>>752902017
>i wish there was a source you could trust on everything.
And I wish people could use their intellect for more than bitcoin mining and thinking up a cool gamertag. This isn't that hard to figure out, folks.
>>752901997
explain to me with you supernatural physics knowledge:
why is her hair acting like that.
why is something dropping in a speed thats not realistig in zero gravity.
why do stars almost always look like this when filmed with a camera that has more then 30x zoom.
>>752900848
>2: It's guarded by the ferocious sea what fucks up anything that moves there and you will be turned back if you go south enough. It's not a secret nor a conspiracy.
>>752895736
i don't have to, since we both don't have to know the truth in our lifetime ever.
have fun wasting your time on such an irrelevant topic
>>752900913
>curved plane window is the curve of the planet
kek
>>752902240
you must be very close minded.
trust me, nobody of the flat earthers wanted to believe this
>>752895736
No, this isnt how the argument goes. Youre supposed to convince us how it is. We have proof, you do not. So you cant.
>>752896479
Yeah, there's a guy that I see downtown occasionally who goes off about flat earth theory. The other day I saw him trying to convince the mormons who are always hanging out by the bus stop handing out pamphlets, and even they weren't buying it, lol. And this isn't some backwards redneck rural shithole either.
Too many people in this thread don't know the difference between mass/weight, too many people don't know that people on the ISS are in freefall, not 0g. They are literally falling 24/7 on the ISS, falling with everything around them with no g forces acting upon them. Things still fall in the craft if given momentum.
Pick up a fucking book or at least refrain from looking like a cunt.
Why is it that flattards must defer to images and videos to explain their beliefs? There are plenty of rational people explaining from their own knowledge why they think the Earth is round, but a much smaller percentage of flattards who can do the same.
How do these people account for the night sky in the southern hemisphere differing so much from the night sky in the northern hemisphere? On a flat earth, both skies in both locations should have the same constellations in the same places.
>>752895736
I don't understand flat earthers. You have so much evidence to the contrary and yet they insist on it being flat. Why the fuck would anyone lie (and not just anyone, a fucking huge worldwide conspiracy) about the shape of our planet.
What difference does it make in your day to day life if the Earth was flat after all? Fucking nothing. There is no reason to hide the truth of such a revelation. No impact on your day to day life whatsoever.
Now go back to work, wageslave.
>>752895736
If you need convincing of that, there's little hope for you.
>>752902257
the people on the ISS are not in 0g you muppet.
>>752902017
If there was money in it for the commoners... Sadly there isn't and everything is monopolized.
>>752902507
>The other day I saw him trying to convince the mormons
Wouldn't be a hard trick really. They already discredit science as it is to a certain degree, some hocus pocus imaginary space fantasies isn't far from that.
>>752902585
>No impact on your day to day life.
Pretty much this. However, it's just like the other conspiracy people, they are enthusiastic in finding out the truth and tend to see connections everywhere regarding to their 'truth'
>>752902872
>simulation of a sort
Not really that bad of a theory really.
>>752902257
>why is her hair acting like that.
Electrostatic charge makes hair shafts repel each other. This has been observed and documented in micro-gravity environments for over fifty years. Detailed explanation here:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=665993
>Why is something dropping
You assume it's dropping, but what is your frame of reference. What direction is it going, and how fast is it moving? You're looking at something without an obvious explanation - to you - and your first thought is a conspiracy.
>>752902725
wtf are you talking about?
you think NASA are making a killing on selling globes? are you that much of a retard to think that all the people throughout history that "monopolised" none of their findings were wrong, and that when NASA turned up they were like "ey babes we can make about 2m a year in sales from globes, let's go".
you're an absolute ass-tarded fuck knuckle reinforcing that man-child's opinion that he can't trust that the fucking earth is a globe.
>>752901803
... The point is we can see that mars is round... Whats the point of making it flat... For the most part we stop believing in flat earth in the B.C. times
>>752902441
Show me your proof that isn't doctored NASA bullshit. Something you've gathered for yourself, not what you've been shown on your television you sit at everyday. A lie, if told enough eventually becomes the truth for reality and it's all a conspiracy. It's easier to fool someone, than convince them they've been fooled.
>>752902353
>you must be very close minded.
>trust me, nobody of the flat earthers wanted to believe this
Some are just too intellectually lazy to look at a photoshopped image and decide to apply rational thought to it. "OMG that picture is weird" doesn't qualify as intellectual rigor. And many of the people that promote this tripe are highly agendized and desperately want to believe it.
>>752903141
Proof that you're a retard can be seen all around us with history every day. History is changing because of uneducated cunts like yourself that spread misinformation until it becomes believable.
I feel sorry for you.
>>752902520
>Pick up a fucking book
Flattards aren't going to do this. The "casuals" are too lazy and the "hardcore" are too agendized. There is an emotional aspect to this that appeals to the intellectually weak and the conspiracy-minded.
>>752903217
you know whats photoshopped?
the nasa images of our planet
>>752902872
>the earth is flat because i want it to be flat
>>752903065
>hate
>doesn't know about airspace rights and permissions
>typical emotional outburst due to mental retardation since childhood
You will probably be one of those retards looking forward to the public/private moon launches what has been scheduled and re-scheduled already many times. They'll fail. As will everything else when it comes to space, unless you will satisfy in nifty CGI and animations about what is happening across the universe.
>>752903141
>doctored NASA bullshit
Any credible evidence to prove this assertion? What about the Russian, Chinese, Indian and European space agencies? Space-X? Every fucking person in the global aerospace industry? Think about what you're claiming here...
>>752897666
Jesus i think that
>>752902872
If you read the bible the way it talks talks about us as servants of god... Create us to follow God's commands... Aka his slaves... Can a master truly love a slave
>>752903221
So you've seen the mythical curve?
Gravity my nigga, yes it's real
>>752903498
>addresses none of my points and goes on another uneducated rant
>knows nothing about how complex it is to propel something away from the earth into orbit
>can literally observe satellites around planets in the solar system that aren't earth, such as the ones near the sun and the recent jupiter and saturn probes
>being this much of a fucking faggot
>>752903217
What about the ESA, Chinese, Russian and Indian? What about the private corporations? Are you really claiming that a global industry that relies on millions of people - all of them are photoshoping space pictures?
>>752895736
>Convince me that the Earth isn't flat /b/
GPS
>>752903521
NASA admits that any image they take of Earth from space is photoshopped.. They say it "has" to be.
>>752903583
>mythical curve
>even the ancient greeks knew the earth was curved
>"but i'm intellectually superior thinking it's flat, lol, those sheep believing thousands of years of scientific advancement, m'genes won't allow it"
Fuck outta here you cunt.
>>752903065
>NASA making a killing.
They are? And so are everyone else when it comes to space without any actual proof--remind me, what happened to the moon stones or any physical evidence from the moon landings?
You're the retard here, which is pretty normal in these threads, all you scrubs storm in "cuz muh globe isnt wrungggg u r retarded hurr durr flat scum how cn u believ dat lol"
>inb4 kys etc retardation
can someone tell me what the goal of flat earth is? I have been trying to find sites, but all of them just talk about why they think the earth is flat, and not what the ultimate "conspiracy" is. could an anon help me out? I'm tired of sifting through click bait sites shilling alternative medicine ads.
>>752895736
Okay.
Can we agree that earth floats around in something, nothing or whatever? And that there is some magic or physics that pulles us down aka gravity? Fine.
Whats would be the most logical shape of any object of planet like size that just floats out there? A disk or a sphere? And what about gravity, is it just a force that pulls you down, just because its down. Or are we so used to stuff always falling down, thats for some of us its impossible to grasp the concept of gravity pulling stuff together towards its center?
>>752903782
go suck mummy's tit little boy. you have some growing up to do.
>>752903782
Lunar eclipse isn't square, earth can't flat.
>>752902872
Wanting something to be true has no impact on what's actually true. The real world doesn't give a fuck about your feelings of self worth. get over it.
>>752903583
>So you've seen the mythical curve?
Many of us have seen the effects, from planes, skydiving and tall buildings. The range of the radio signals that you might be listening to are effect by the the radio horizon and can't be explained by signal density diffusion alone. The proof is all around you if you're not agendized and not lazy.
>Look at
>La
>>752903639
>>addresses none of my points and goes on another uneducated rant
oh no
>knows nothing about how complex it is to propel something away from the earth into orbit
What is imagination and math made up to support a theory and build upon.
>>can literally observe satellites around planets in the solar system that aren't earth, such as the ones near the sun and the recent jupiter and saturn probes
being this naive and gullible xD
>being this much of a fucking faggot
funny, coming from an utter retard.
>>752903756
>NASA admits that any image they take of Earth from space is photoshopped.. They say it "has" to be.
They state that most, but not all of them, are post-processed. Where in the hell do you get your information from?
>>752903903
you haven't seen it in a plane. don't let this cunt feel justified in his beliefs. it's not possible from that height to see curvature.
you actually need to be much higher. again, i think if half of you cunts actually went and did some real reading and absorbed what you were told, there wouldn't be this many cunts alive today.
>>752903825
To find out the "truth" and have meaning to life. Just like any conspiracy people. Be it aliens, religious rants, satanistic pedos etc.
>>752903874
>>752903875
you boys take too much soy, try cutting it out, you won't be such pussies then
>>752903994
Please, do show a 'photo' that isn't post-processed without being an composite built from data and without certain requirements to present something that is expected.
>>752898124
So I should see Mt. Everest from my room.
>>752904015
>you haven't seen it in a plane
No, I haven't. I have seen tall objects fall below the horizon as I've descended. I have an MSEE specializing in RF engineering and have experimented with the effect of altitude on radio range. I can't "see" it, but I can measure it. I can't see RF, but I can measure that and that's how science works, kid.
>>752903934
trying too hard bro. plenty of pictures from real people that aren't nasa of planets in the solar system that aren't flat, some that have way less mass than the earth.
i know you're being a cunt but there are people on here that will actually believe you're this retarded.
>>752904256
as you descend, so will the horizon, how does that refute flat earth theory?
>>752903825
The conspiracy is trying to show you that you have been lied to. They want you to believe that we are nothing and mean nothing by relativity to the galaxy and everything around us. IF we are in fact on a sphere, this would contradict many religious views that have stated otherwise, with this they can control the belief in a God or higher power. If you don't believe, then this would discourage you from having faith, discourage you from religious practices. If there Earth were proved flat and within a fermanent, not even necessarily being a "dome" over us, but if there were actually an ice wall surrounding us, this would make man question why we are stuck inside the wall, what is beyond the wall? Why can't we go outside the wall?
>>752904256
i'm not a kid, i'm just calling you out on your stupid statement. if you didn't mean what you said, how about you type what you actually mean instead of spreading misinformation like these knobjuices?
>>752904308
>as you descend, so will the horizon
???
is this american education system in action?
>>752904273
And? Some specks in the sky, have enough magnification and you can actually see them as well.
Problem isn't the space, it's our own planet and a silly need to travel to outer space when we haven't even explored our own ocean and its depths.
>>752904406
could also be a brit, that shit is here too.
let's hope he's american though.
>>752904335
>why we are stuck inside the wall, what is beyond the wall? Why can't we go outside the wall?
Here's an idea. Get a ship and sail over there to your imaginary wall.
Oh wait you can't because our planet is fucking round.
>>752895736
flat earther logic:
muh bible would be wrong if the earth was a globe, therefore it's flat. most flat earth arguments are poorly formed ad hoc explanations based on that premise. The simpler explanation is that their interpretation of the bible is flawed. ...but idiots have to be idiots I guess, and objectivity be damned.
>>752904308
>as you descend, so will the horizon, how does that refute flat earth theory?
Holy shit, seriously?! Think about this for one minute - what would happen if the Earth was flat and you observed a tall object from a variable height; your perspective would change but you would still be able to see all of it. Lighthouses, tall ships, ect, "disappear" - from the bottom up - as you descend.
Jeez...
>>752903994
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFBAznZwqVg
>>752899323
"zero gravity?"
no, constantly falling.
the earths density is not the same everywhere. some spots are heavier (oceans) than others. also, I would assume their orbit varies in height, so they sometimes float a bit to the left, bit to the top, right and so on. it's called micro-gravity.
>>752904406
Horizon is nothing but the border of your own perspective faggot. You are higher, you see further, horizon stays still but the ground it actually covers can vary greatly. Is that some sort of weird globe proof to you?
>>752904034
pedos?
>>752904343
>i'm not a kid, i'm just calling you out on your stupid statement. if you didn't mean what you said, how about you type what you actually mean instead of spreading misinformation like these knobjuices?
I know this is hard to track on 4chan, but I never claimed to.
>>752904436
I don't even know where you're going with the whole ocean bullshit. People are exploring the ocean too, but it becomes stupidly hard at extreme depths when pressure per metre becomes extreme.
There's a thing called the atmosphere btw - it makes it hard to observe things outside of it. This can be caused by people thinking they can try to see stars through their window with a telescope, instead of going to a remote location in the cold with no light pollution.
Lots of things you need to learn man. Just get out there, get a telescope for a couple hundy and go somewhere dark. Learn to use it. Stop being a cunt, then we can have a beer or some shit and you can say sorry for being a faggot.
>>752904480
You idiots don't really understand that out world is rather large with a lot of people in it. You'd be surprised how many people actually believed in Flat earth type of theories or religion in general, which are nutty, yes, but point being--you're actually the minority what sings the loudest with shitty science.
The flattard's worst enemy.
>>752902507
JESUS H CHRIST ON A F*CKING CRACKER!!!
Can you even OPERATE mentally without resorting to EXTENSIVE logical fallacy?
You are constantly GETTING WORSE on this front as time goes on, relying on logical fallacy as a SUBSTITUTE FOR logic.
GTFO.
Now, go ahead and play your ad hominem b*llsh*t games on me. I'm always up for taking them and tossing your own sh*t right back in your face, giving it a good smear, and making you take a good sniff of your own turds so you can't keep pretending they smell like roses simply because you declare it thus and so. It's basically why local BAMN and Antifa cells have decided I'm so evil and conservative and Republican and racist sexist anti-gay and Nazi apologist and in need of "shutting down" and "silencing" for the "greater good." Because they are so in favor of tolerance and fighting bigotry and all, just like you and your "liberal progressive" self. If they weren't a bunch of petty incompetent temper tantrum throwing CHILDREN who apparently can't figure out that trail cams exist and that vandalism is a crime as well as that stuffing nasty things into people's mailboxes is a FEDERAL FELONY and that sending me "anonymous" threatening messages online isn't NEARLY as "anonymous" as they think have thus given me a MOUNTAIN of doumentation with which to tell them to back the F off or else, I'd be worried.
>>752901081
ever threw a ball against a wall? didn't it bounce back?
>>752902872
I'd be worthless on both a sphere or flat surface, checkmate.
>>752904546
Just what I thought.
Try this:
https://www.metabunk.org/forums/Flat-Earth/
You should have hours of fun here.
>>752899412
>where is Mount Everest, its the highest point on earth, it should be visible
>>752904496
>Get a ship and sail over there to your imaginary wall.
Easier said than done. The sea will rape you and if you don't turn back, you will be turned back. If you manage to get there by yourself, you simply can't traverse across the south-pole without a proper team and if you would somehow get there, you certainly cant keep going straight for some reason. People have tried and failed. That's why they just return the same way they came and call it the south pole traverse.
>>752900462
still not high enough
>>752904816
>sea will rape you
This is where thinking people need to check out.
>>752904700
Dude, stars aren't real. Haven't you ever been in a planetarium? The night sky is just a giant laser projector operated out of HAARP.
>>752904816
lol this is some golden sun 2 shit. next you'll tell me there's a waterfall at the end of the earth. or perhaps a huge wall of ice encircling us all that has never been observed by literally anyone. that could see it and fly towards it/sail towards it. or how about they post findings of these "insane currents".
bunch of fuckin retards.
you think we're living in -4500BC when they thought clouds were gods, and cried when thunder arrived.
>>752904540
How dim are you? It doesn't matter if you jump from high up, all it does it that you have a high vantage point and can see further due being high as fuck.
Atmosphere refraction is a whole other topic when it comes to ships or anything on the border of the horizon if you are lucky enough to be on a flat level/ocean.
>>752895736
>
I dont believe the earth is flat but I wont argue with flat earthers, people are allowed to believe what they want. Except muslims, they must die.
>>752902872
>>752904783
No Flat Earth can ever keep me from living with my mother!
>>752904816
>it's too hard abloobloobloo
People have been sailing across oceans for centuries with crappy ships. You're telling me flat earthers can't get a half decent expedition together woth modern technology?
Actually yes, that does sound like flat earthers on second thought.
>>752904335
>IF we are in fact on a sphere, this would contradict many religious views that have stated otherwise, with this they can control the belief in a God or higher power
the church never say that the world is flat.
>>752904816
Dude, there are cruise ships that take tourist to the south pole.
>>752895736
Eddie Bravo Fuck off already with this shit.
>>752905095
true, they all believe it's round.
flat-earther was an insult in the 18th century or so and it kinda sat with the retards that said "ye but what if it's rly flat m8".
welcome to today.
>>752895736
The earth has a round quasi spherical shape.
>>752904915
Lol
If that is what flat earthers believe, how does that account for two people on two different hemispheres observing a different night sky at the same exact time? Lasers or no, seems like some year 3000 sci fi shit to have laser projections appear differently based on your location.
>>752905161
>draws flat line to make it look flat
>can literally see curvature above said line
>rofl
>>752905240
Savage, I'm pretty sure you have taken his bait.
>>752904686
>remote location in the cold with no light pollution.
>Just get out there, get a telescope for a couple hundy and go somewhere dark. Learn to use it.
You assume I already don't. I do, and in fact love doing it as the winters in Finland are rather nice for such activities.
But I don't care about space that much due to dubious and at best, non-trustworthy organizations behind it all. If the world leading scientists had gone with the geocentrism ideas some hundreds years ago, they would have theorized our world around that instead of the heliocentrism. All it would have needed was few more hands up in the debates in favor of the other theories. And nothing would have changed, just different words.
How would gravity even work if the earth were flat
>>752905347
It wouldn't by the means of which we know, but then again the earth is round so....
>>752904915
It's okay to be retarded, but please stay away from the internet
As a physics major, Flat Earthers are the most entertaining retards I've found on the internet. In the rare chance I do get to talk with them you see how quickly their logic and understanding of the world falls apart and they collapse on themselves. They just believe it because they want to have unique knowledge that nobody else has, even if it's not correct.
>Trig disagrees with you
>Equation for gravitational fields and forces disagree with you
>Modern technology (satellites, interplanetary probes, long-range missiles, planes) all disagree with you
>Your own logic disagrees with you. i.e. if every pilot, engineer, and scientist was bought out by the gov't to preach globe-earth, then why doesn't every FE believer go into a STEM field and get free living off the gov't while draining their pockets so they can't buy everyone out?
>>752905307
so go and prove them wrong. i'll be waiting until you're an old man bro. there's no 'secret' in using your telescope.
better yet, get a solar lens and look at the sun. do everything you can to go against your belief that NASA are somehow fooling you.
go to any observatory around the world with doctors of physics that aren't remotely a part of NASA.
learn about patterns of the stars/moon, and note how they don't correlate at all with flat earth. lots of things you can do bro, if you won't believe me go and check it out for yourself.
and no, you're wrong about geocentrism. like all science, it's not ever 100% right, it's ever changing. there was a time we thought we were at the centre of it all, yes, but then we learned that we're not.
just like you can learn it with a telescope.
>>752905066
>People have been sailing across oceans for centuries with crappy ships.
Humor yourself and go check how different the southern ocean surrounding Antarctica is compared to the rest of the world.
You're too stupid to actually know anything it seems.
OP here, appreciate your time wasted. Just got back from grocery store. No need for anymore troll.
/thread
>>752898551
in a few select cases. mirages are a natural phenomenon
>>752905139
Cruising outside of the Antarctic circle is barely a cruise to Antarctica.
>>752905306
I understand his post was a joke, but I'm genuinely curious what flattards use as an argument against the hemispheres showing different constellations.
>>752895736
Go fuck yourself with a bag of dicks you brainless waste of sperm. Hope you die of 5 cancers
>>752905532
>southern ocean surrounding Antarctica
>surrounding antarctica
>flat earthers think that Antarctica is one huge landmass at the edge of the earth, therefore there's no surrounding of it you massive faggot
check yourself before you wreck yourself faggot.
>>752905465
>physics major
kek, already indoctrinated to support a world view theory and ready to assemble said knowledge to defend said view.
>>752895736
hello brother, I too believe that the world is flat and that Trump will Make America Great Again like any other red blooded Trump Supporting American. For too long we have let science dictate society when that right belongs solely to god who made the world flat because the bible says so, under Trump christians will never have to face persecution ever again on American soil like they do every day in the class rooms. Trump is the best thing to ever happen to those know understands god's truth that the world is truly flat and he most certainly represents us.
Make America Great Again!
Make the Earth Flat Again!
they make the perfect combo
>>752905824
except it's all proven with things YOU can prove yourself. Especially the trig part. Any brain-dead high school drop-out can do that. STEM majors don't "hear and regurgitate," they prove. We are able to prove everything we learn in STEM classes but you wouldn't know because you're autistic and don't want to learn anything remotely useful
>>752905516
I don't have any need to prove anything as I don't 'believe' in neither. Both are fun theories to ponder on. It just simply doesn't matter. Past generation had the moon fantasies, now the modern ones have Mars, while some retries are considered on the Moon. Shouldn't be too hard, considering they went there several times without any failures on the moons surface.
Science is science, and science will always be changing to support whatever is the modern belief of that time.
>>752905669
Or you can book a plane and go to the pole itself. It only cost about 50 000usd.
Google polar quest travel.
>>752906026
at this point mate it's not a theory that the earth is a globe.. come on. it's not totally round, but it's not fucking flat.
but whatever friend, i'll let you be you. if you ever feel like tracking the sun at noon every day, or the same star every night, i'm sure i'll hear your eureka moment from over the ocean.
>>752905783
>assumes I was a flat-earther
>can't respond to a simple message
>can't realize that opposite side of a argument/debate can possibly take the side of the opponent in a form of words to explain something to the opponent
wew
is flat-earthing the next troll bullshit after 6(1+2)=1???
>>752906239
>not getting that i'm stating the obvious to make them look like cunts
>taking offence to something you don't find offensive
wew
>>752906000
>reee
okie dokie mr STEM major
>>752896040
You mean photoshop is not available on flat earth?
>>752906143
It'd be a feat to actually traverse the south-pole in a straight line, which hasn't been done and the modern ones that have tried it have all failed due to harsh environments. Just because you visit a pole planted on a "south-pole" doesn't really mean shit when you just return the same way back.
>>752906340
wasn't available between the 60s and early 00s matey.
but let's ignore that amirite. also ignore the scientists from hundreds of years ago with no financial investments into science.
FLAT EARTH BABY YEAH BTW I FUCK MY SISTER
>>752900996
This
A smart guy with a stick figured out the earth is round and even the approximate size as well. (Pythagoras circa 500 b.c.)
>>752906296
>earth is flat
>truth is under your eyes above this line
wew
>>752895736
>>752896186
>>752896787
>>752897249
>>752897305
>>752898648
>>752899971
>>752902872
>>752903007
>>752903016
you people are all so indoctrinated, this is what the true flat earth model looks like
>>752906440
you tried drawing a flat line around a ball before? better yet, try it on something easy like a cone. a paper cone will do.
when you're satisfied that your line is straight, unravel the cone.
your flat earth society can't even do that.
>>752897263
You sir are a hero in my eyes
>>752906563
Can confirm. Been to Geminia, they are super racist. Ideal place for any alt-right leaning white supremacist people. It's a paradise on earth.
>>752906563
I hear Pitatia is nice this time of year
>>752897815
Wouldn't there also be a visible curve if the earth was flat?
>>752906638
>"your flat earth society"
I'm just saying how it is, your shitty attitude just proves how retarded all you globe wannabe plebs are in defending it.
If you start at the north pole and walk/fly/whatever to the equator, then turn right 90 degrees and walk (as far as you like) then turn right again 90 degrees and walk, you will end up back at the north pole.
By turning 90 degrees twice you managed to make a triangle. You could never do this on a flat earth.
We got back to the north pole by turning onlyOn a flat earth you need to take 4 90 degree turns to return to your
>>752906685
yes it would curve ever so slightly upwards. like a plate.
they deny this though. even though it's not physically possible to have something with the mass of earth to exist in that state, if it did, it would be plate shaped.
>>752906685
Yeah, if you have curved window in front of your eyes or curved lense in a camera.
>>752906812
>won't even try it
not surprised. go back to fucking your cousins.
Buy weather balloon
Buy tank of helium
Attach camera (no fisheye lens)
Attach gps (to find after)
Send balloon up to take pics
See curvature
Total cost? Couple hundred bucks, proving flat earthers wrong? Priceless.
>>752906842
>mass of earth
What is something that can not be verified ever and we can't even get deep into our own planet without severe failure in equipment.
Can't explore our own oceans well enough.
Can't penetrate our own ground.
Got math and imagination? Solved.
>>752897263
old pasta is old.
I’ve seen pics/video from Antarctic expeditions, no ice wall in sight anywhere.
I need to hear what explanation flat earthers have for that..
>>752906904
>hurr durr im retaaarded
not surprised
>>752906907
>see curvature
that's where you will fail tho
>>752905922
There’s a reason it’s called “dope” anon
>>752907142
Go buy the gear and prove me wrong then skippy.
>>752906907
nasa has monitoring/interception planes patrolling the dome 24/7
they'll just intercept your balloon, remove mem card, shoop pics, replace card, throw in expected area for ball (different from flat!)
live video is captured and modified on the fly, after effects government edition, y'know
>>752907017
something that most definitely has been verified. you don't need to dig down and weigh each piece of the earth you idiot.
and let me reiterate that there's a difference between MASS and WEIGHT. what those things 'weigh' on earth, isn't what they'd weigh on the moon.
you need to understand basic physics. mass bends space time. weight is subjective. incredibly subjective.
the mass of the sun and the mass of the earth are the most studied i'd imagine in our solar system, and most mathematical equations of mass go on 'solar masses' and earth masses.
>>752906669
Contact Richard Spencer and have him lead the great Alt Right exodus out of this social justice wasteland that is America, Trump fired Bannon and isn't doing so well so action must be taken into our own hands and lead our people to the promised land we deserve, beyond the ice wall of Antarctica to Geminia
>>752907221
You forgot the part where nasa is actually run by lizard people
>>752907221
this is satire right?
pls
>>752907078
It's not really that evident on the ice-wall shore, however as you start your expedition onwards, eventually you will be on a miles high arctic ice.
Check any expedition going across Antarctic, it's not really a wall, just miserable winds and coldness which will prevent anyone from going across. Or its a spooky conspiracy and there's actual end of the world where we simply can't go.
>>752897012
you are dumb.... like, really, really dumb...
>>752907214
already have, costed nearly 400€. As expected from any JewTube video with proper equiptment, nothing exciting.
>>752897428
quick maths
>>752907147
Only High on Christ and American Christian Values, Grateful to jesus for giving us Trump so help show the world that the world is Flat and that Religion will win over science
>>752907330
and any day now you'll realise that we have the technology to combat aero-challenging locations. some call them planes. some call them satellites. some call them aerodynamic vehicles.
you know?
>>752907330
Not talking about the shore idiot, I’m talking about planes flying over Antarctica on clear days and no ice walls in sight.
>>752907323
this is what flatards actually believe
>>752907409
I’ll take things that never happened for $400 Alex.
>>752907235
>the mass of the sun and the mass of the earth are the most studied i'd imagine in our solar system, and most mathematical equations of mass go on 'solar masses' and earth masses.
When you say shit like this, it simply just shows that nothing is actually known and is simply just math being utilized for theories based on whatever is assumed. Wow, such science, thumbs up m8.
>inb4 wow such retard much idiot I'm a physics major and know everything based on what I have learned and I am a master at using said knowledge in real life to portray calculations and arrive into certain conclusions what I gather from them.
wew, science.
>>752907650
shit man if only they could relay what they're seeing in real time... if only... IF ONLY..
or are they going to talk about how light-speed is different when they're high up because of the ice wall's magic properties of the heliotropic savanna gods?
>>752906563
False.
This is the real true flat earth.
>>752903756
the most famous photograph of the earth was not a single shot. it was taken over quite a bit of time and assembled together.
>>752906440
If you carry all know instruments of navigation, look at stars and their height on the sky, the sun is up all day during summer etc and compare all thoose things. You have to be pretty stupid to say thats just a random pole in the snow... Unfortunately a straight line traverse is far to long to be done without motorized aid, and the only one so far who has traversed it has taken the shortest route and thats more like a 90 turn at the pole. But hey, team up with someone, buildt a couple of 6x6 fordvans and do it instead of sperging shit online!
Guess all of the asteroids/meteorites that hit the earth just happen to have the access codes to our dome, it’s an old code but it checks out.
>>752907717
you're trying too hard. you can't refute a damn thing anyone here is saying except for "it hasn't been proven to the atomic number".
well, how about you go and help? also, they're pretty damn close to the atomic number. they've successfully slung satellites around massive planets, and that takes very precise mathematics.
they got it wrong with saturn and lost one to it. perhaps you've heard of that one? or did NASA fake it all to get more money from the government to build more?
DUNDUNDUNNNNN
>>752896186
the law of perspective pertains to film and photography you fucking retard.
take ten seconds to do some actual scientific research instead of just believing whatever is posted on your retard forums.
>>752907503
>>752907611
>planes & satellites, aerodynamic vehicles
Funny enough they don't go across either. Huh, weird.
>I’m talking about planes flying over Antarctica on clear days and no ice walls in sight.
And? The ice itself is the fictional wall, any plane is just traveling upwards and upwards as the altitude rises.
>>752907789
- people going up there are paid shills
- live feed is either manipulated, gets lost or modified on the fly
- recorded stuff is manipulated while unmonitored by humans
- stuff done with planes or something like it are warped because of glass
- cams generally have curved lenses
typical conspiracy stuff: there is no way out.
>>752907703
That'll be 470$ in freedom monies.
>>752896040
This.
/thread.
>>752907874
So that's where Lemuria is, huh.
>>752908039
what technology are they using to operate at light speed within the influence of the earth's gravitational attraction?
you absolute sperg. nothing can travel at light speed except light itself. i'll give you a minute to find out why that is.
come back to me my nigga.
>>752907874
>Kek continent, home of the glorious Kekistan and it's great leader Big Man Tyrone.
>>752908030
Did that response make sense in your head? Here in reality it makes no sense at all.
>>752908145
I miss golden sun so badly ;_; wish they'd make a sequel already.
>>752907979
Why would I refute anything? Does it look like I'm trying to preach some shitty gospel here?
>or did NASA fake it all to get more money from the government to build more?
probably, great cash-grab when generations and generations keep pouring to it without nothing in return.
As long as the evidence for space or anything for that matter is untrustworthy at best, you can think whatever you want of it. Doesn't make either side better than the other.
>>752908389
the sequel will take place at Gonoria
>>752908406
a cash grab of which they see none of? great cash grab bro. they send it all into space and research.
like a glorified charity. in fact it's so similar to charity. you faggots refute charities too? cancer research have the cure man! they just hold onto it to get more money to do more research!! those bastards!
you're a fucking moron.
>>752903141
The sun rises and sets at different times across the globe. Isn't that enough?
>>752908492
Gonoria, where djiins are named after specific types of wart.
>>752908171
>what technology are they using to operate at light speed within the influence of the earth's gravitational attraction?
assuming anything of that is real but probably a major in physics and hard to convince otherwise due to already programmed ideologies.
>>752908273
Sorry to hear that your understanding of the real world is lacking at best. Perhaps go check some government educational programs, they're good at explaining things on a child's level.
>>752908558
This is a flat earth thread, no logic allowed.
>>752908616
