I'm a Muslim ask me anything. Don't forget we don't
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
I'm a Muslim ask me anything.
Don't forget we don't need to be praying all day every day to be Muslim. The same way you don't need to be in church 24/7 to be Christian.
I'll answer trolls within reason.
I'm particularly perplexed by Americans needs to have guns. Please explain your position.
Let's try to have actual discussions about whatever you wish to ask. Let's avoid buzzword questions.
We have guns because we have niggers.
>>699149719
Why do people in states without any black people have guns?
We want to own guns because bad people will get them illegally anyways. I carry only to protect myself and or loved ones if the need arises. I would shoot to stop a threat. Not be a fucktard and be the threat. Look at Mexico. They have banned guns and now the cartel rules the fucking place. Plus if anyone invaded us we would be armed and ready to protect our country.
>>699149584
What's the point ?
>>699150438
You should not compare the USA with Mexico, that's a grossly unfair comparison.
Canada and Australia have similar ethnic diversity as the USA and human development index. They have banned guns.
Most illegal weapons are obtained through robbing homes. That means the more people who buy weapons the more weapons who will be stolen during robberies. These weapons will then go into the hands of criminals.
In Canada, criminals can also get guns, however, they are hard to get and very expensive. Therefore, you really need to be a serious criminal to get one. Small timers would not have one. Street gangs usually do not have a gun.
If another country were to invade the USA they would use modern weaponry. China would just drop bombs and bring tanks into the cities. There is no way it's going to be a WW2 type war.
>>699149584
Fuck off back to your shit hole of a country sand nigger.
>>699149584
Do you dress with a headdress & that kind of shit & are you voting for trump? Reasonable questions
>>699150183
they don't
>>699149584
what will u bomb next ?
>>699151350
Damn fuck off you cuck let the Muslim do what they want fucking cuck
Iraqi women are pretty cute
>>699151547
How so?
Do you believe that a person who leaves the Muslim faith should be put to death?
You are part of the reason why we have guns
>>699151350
I am being payed quite well to be here to do research. I'll take that as your government wants me here.
>>699151403
I am a man. Therefore, I do not wear a headdress. I wear normal clothes. Usually, blue jeans and a tshirt, band t or just random graphic or plain color.
I am not American, nor a resident of the USA therefore I cannot vote. However, I would not vote for Trump. For many very obvious reasons. Most of his policy ideas are not concrete or well thought out. The most obvious one is the wall; he claims he will build a wall that mexico will pay for to halt illegal immigration.
This is neither a reasonable solution nor a suitable solution to the problem. The majority of illegals in the USA entered legally but overstayed their visa. Most of them entering by plane to work in fields, and then staying indefinitely. Therefore, a wall would not solve this problem. Moreover, why would Mexico pay for a something that will hurt their economy. A large part of the Mexican economy comes from people sending money back to their families. They benefit from this. Why would they fund a wall which may prevent even the tiniest bit of this from occurring?
>>699151418
Montana, Dakota, they all have guns.
>>699151547
They are. The most beautiful women is often said to be the Afghans. Light colored skin, slightly asian eyes with colors such as yellow, green and blue. Beautiful.
>>699151620
Refer to above
>>699151679
No, there is no reason to kill people. If someone finds happiness in a different faith or non-faith and it does not hurt his community, then he should be free to believe in this.
>>699151711
How so?
http://youtu.be/q5Ou2SBBErA A real hero
>>699151882
But Mexico has a wall along its southern border I believe to keep out Guatemalans so why haven't they been critized? & is that your wife then in the picture you posted in your original post?
>>699150949
It's important to know that most guns are owned legally by criminals, bought at gun shows or online where you don't need to pass a background check.
>>699149584
When are you guys going to leave the UK? There's too many of you over here, you're like cockroaches.
>>699152173
>how so?
You know shit skin
Do you believe Quran is really word of god, and contains no errors?
My one muslim friend once told me he studied Quran and found absolutley no error in it, but then he started talking about Genies who live in other dimensions... so i won't take his word for it.
You seem like a logical thinking man, what do you think?
>>699152173
You're talking about Nuristani women. The average afghan woman looks like shit, though. Rough life I guess
>>699149584
Hello dude, what would you do if Jesus spawn tomorow ?
>>699150949
Canadian here.
It's actually incredibly easy to get handguns that are illegal. You don't need to be a big time gang banger just have some cash on hand. Plus guns aren't banned here. I have 12 legally purchased guns and know lots of people who also have plenty of firearms legally obtained. Australia on the other hand ya they're fucked ain't no legally owning guns there
>>699149584
We own guns because owning them bought our independence from a corrupt government. Our founders realized that bad people could and would seize power. So they made the amendment and allowed guns. Because an unarmed society is easily exploited and controlled.
Why don't Muslim's in their home country try to get weapons and kill their extremists instead of running by the tens of thousands. That's a good amount of militias right there.
>>699149584
Thoughts on Israel?
You're in a religion?
Do you believe in fairy tales too?
I won't shit on your religion if you don't shit on mine.
>>699149584
Guns: right specifically spelled out in constitution. Literally a fundamental right of Americans. That's why.
>>699152426
Mexico's wall is a geopolitical wall to separate the land. And the majority of illegals in Mexico do come from South America by foot because they cannot get visas to go into Mexico. There is not enough work for all Mexican people, do you think they will offer short term work visas?
Whereas the USA does NEED to have short term labor. Therefore it accepts people from the entire world for periods of usually a year. These people then overstay.
What is the point to the wall the USA will build?
>>699152526
I am aware. Which is a reason guns should have tighter restrictions.
>>699152536
I am in Canada. Considering your mayor is Muslim, which means he is the most capable leader in all of London at the present time does not say much about the British people if he is akin to a cockroach.
>>699152622
so the fact that people have tanned skin is a reason to have a gun? I do not see the correlation.
>>699152633
The Q'ran as well as all the other Holy Books try to explain very complex psychological and philosophical ideas in the easiest terms possible.
In the Q'ran and the Torah (the Bible slacked a bit on this), it is clearly stated that God has no image. He is everything that is and everything that is not. He is boundless, all encompassing. A Jewish philosopher stated that the moment you attempt to imagine God you have already placed too many constraints on the entirety of what he is.
By this definition, God is everything that we think, do, are, ... Therefore, all of our thoughts are the direct transgression of God. Mohammed after having found enlightenment, word of God, translated the thoughts that were in his mind in Arabic and dictated them to his wife who wrote the Q'ran.
The Q'ran does not have any direct errors in it. It does however have a lot of room for interpretation which is what makes it a religion and not just a practice. It adheres to all people regardless of class, gender, ethnicity, social status, age, ... It's quite interesting.
Bump
>>699153641
What would you do if Jesus come back tomorrow ?
>>699153480
Don't do it, OP. Islam just needs a reformation movement. Scientology needs a flamethrower. Your religions are not on the same level at all.
>>699153641
empty symbolism for votes s a legitimate purpose, though.
You seem educated, OP. Are you going to go nuts later, like some muzzies seem to do? Gonna go all jihad on us?
>>699153641
We don't need fucking illegal ass niggers coming here to whine about how their pathetic lives suck balls when in reality it would suck balls either way & I agree with the anon earlier who said why don't you people arm yourselves & stand up to ISIS? Oh but you want to come to our country & take up our resources huh? Fucking sand niggers
>>699153641
MFW H1B visas are killing the middle class.
>>699150949
Canada doesn't very much ethnic diversity compared to America
>>699150949
>>699152923
Yup, not everyone can be beautiful.
>>699152996
I would embrace his saving much like what is written in the Q'ran. Before posting targeted questions in such a thread, it is wise to first ask questions to get some information about what it is we believe. Your perception of our beliefs is not our belief.
>>699153083
I'm Canadian too now. I have friends with guns. But, they have licenses, they have to pass tests. They must advise the police when we go up north and they transport them. We most definitely do not have open carry laws. Not any random citizen can get a gun within the same day of deciding he wants one.
Guns are not the problem if they are regulated and the people who have them are well managed.
>>699153089
Concerning Muslims, I hope you realize the extremists are the "well regulated militias" fighting against the corrupt governments. The people who are running, are people who have no desire to fight on either side and just want to live their lives in peace.
>>699153185
I believe Israel has done and is still doing a lot of wrong in the region. However, they are there and there is no logical way by which they can be removed. The surrounding countries and Israel need to come to an agreement to live together. Both, helping each other grow. I know quite a bit about the history and political situation of the region, I studied it in detail. I'd go into more detail about my views if you are interested.
>>699153367
> Assuming religion is just some random stories
>>699153480
If your religion bring you peace of mind, positivity and happiness without being disrespectful to your community then you are free to believe as you please.
>>699153628
All laws should be subject to change. Their interpretation must be changed based on changing times. The same way no robber gets their hands cut off in Morocco anymore. As times change, laws must be changed as well.
Soooo that's a yes on the Genies in 5th dimension... according to Q'ran?
>>699149584
Hey OP just waned to ask what you think the difference is between Iraqi's & Afgans nev understood if they had any difference
>>699150949
Lol you think they gonna kill every bodie in us. Hell no way to many impossible even. Infantry eventually gotta fight and that's exactly how operation Barbarossa went down. It will be exactly like ww2
>>699153641
>I am in Canada
And you claimed we banned guns? You're a special kind of ignorant.
>God is everything we think do are.
That logic is beyond flawed I don't even know where to begin explaining to you why you're a idiot.
>>699149584
Stop wasting time and go write your thesis.
Until Islam lives up to its promise of being the religion of peace, its apologists only point out its hypocrisy.
>>699153641
That's why we need Boris Johnson.
>>699154529
Concerning arming themselves.
So are you saying all attacks related to Isis are false and they're really just the good guys?
It's not a matter of wanting to fight or not. Peace is only attained by struggling and fighting for the life and freedom of those around you. Running from it like a coward doesn't solve the problem. As is seen in the world, the problem just follows you.
To join conflict is hard. But to abide the psychopathy of that organization is cowardice. They will not stop. They fight for an ideal. So they must be destroyed at the source by the very people who truly understand the divisiveness in their own religion.
Faggot
>>699153804
Refer to: >>699154529
Muslim's believe in Jesus. He is a big part of the Q'ran.
>>699154025
In that respect it is. But, it is foolish for American people to be so naive and serve him in such a way.
>>699154027
No, I have a really good position.
>>699154098
Your government pays me very well to be here because I bring to your government much more. I offer my services for payment and the government benefits from my work.
Concerning Muslims. Most Muslims are not Middle-Eastern. For example, I have never been to the Middle-East, I am not ethnically the same as they are, I do not even have the same religious practices as they do. Why, do their geopolitical wars over resources and power affect me in any way. Why should I leave my comfortable life in order to go fight a war in which I have no bearing simply because we have the same religion.
If there is a war in Madagascar, majority Christian, would Armenians be expected to go fight that war? Of course not.
Now for the refugees. You do realize only warlords and killers do well in warzones. If you are not among this group then you either run away or you will die. These people have never lived through war, they just want to live happy, safe lives, so they run. Nothing wrong with that. If any country in which I work goes to war, I will be on the first plane out towards the next country that offers me a nice contract.
>>699154232
Also consider that Americans are unwilling to do low-level unskilled work.
>>699154242
20% of Canada is a visible minority, 26% of the USA is a visible minority. It's comparable.
>>699149584
Speaking of Muslims with guns and bombs, how much better was everyone you knew's day when they got word. Of a faggy Muslim killing a bunch of cock gobblers. I mean I bet that called for a
Goat sacrifice for dinner right. Ohh and the others before that weren't as successful bit allah must have really been with the fag shooter huh?
>>699149584
Can I get a Muslim girlfriend without having to commit totally?
The ones in America are really well mannered and the hijabs remind me of Mary I feel like they're really not dumb bitches who talk out their ass in public like white washed girls in flip flops and buttshorts
>>699150949
Even Canada and the US have much difference in their diversity, and while Canada has stricter gun laws then America, you can still buy many rifles and shotguns with gun license, witch is relatively easy to acquire. Even Handguns and the scary assault weapon is fairly easy to get a license and acquire, if somewhat more time consuming
I was born intersex, meaning i developed breasts and fatty hip pads at the same times my female relatives did; i.e. i am otherwise a male with the full secondary sexual characteristics of a female
I am starting HRT in week when my testosterone blockers arrive in the mail.
If I was to join prayer in my near Mosque would a head dress be disrespectful to almighty? I present female and am fairly curvy - 34DDD, 16W jeans
Pic unrelated
>>699155524
There's no point I can't buy a type 97 May as well kys
How do you justify Muhammad relationship with Aisha?
Stoning to death, women treated like sub human, Slavery, death to polytheist/idol worship/homosexuals -- Yes / No / Maybe ?
>>699155527
Allah has played one of his jokes on you. He has a wicked sense of humor.
>>699155366
20% minority population in canada, yet the majority of them are Asians that are in high paying jobs, which means they themselves and their children are less likely to do crimes like down here in America
>>699149584
No, you are not, or you wouldn't chill on this sinful website.
>>699149584
What's it like being a Muslim in the west (assuming you are in the west) at the moment?
How much power do the religious elders actually have in the Muslim community?
>>699154534
In the Q'ran it does not say what dimension in which they live, just that regularly we cannot see them. They live parallel to us, and can make themselves shown to us. However, with modern science we have defined this concept to be dimensions. It is believed they live in the 4th dimension because in the Q'ran it states that they can traverse time. However, there is no mention of their abilities to traverse decision making, which is the 5th dimension, therefore it's unlikely they are in the 5th dimension.
There is no way to know for certain what this means. But, how cool would 4th dimensional creatures be.
>>699154568
It's two different nationalities. Kind of like the difference between Germans and Portuguese people. They are also different ethnic groups. Iraqis are militarily Arabs, whereas Afghans are Afghan, they are closer to Asian than Middle-Eastern in terms of DNA. Kind of a mix between the Persians and the Mongols.
>>699154648
It won't be exactly like WW2. The same way that WW2 was nothing like WW1.
>>699154746
Try to use a few more words when disagreeing that way I can understand your position. We did not do a hard ban on guns. However, I cannot go out of my lab and buy a gun tonight. Fact.
That is how God is defined in the Torah and the Q'ran. Read them.
>>699154918
Islam is not a religion of peace. Religions, philosophies, doctrines are just words. The interpreter is the one who will interpret the text violently or peacefully depending on his inherent nature. For example ISIS exists, but so do Sufis in Islam. Two very extreme ends of the spectrum of all Muslim people.
I should go work though.
would you drive a truck through 100s of people if your god wanted you to?
>>699155360
Did op ignore me?
>>699149584
American here. Our love from guns stems from our healthy distrust of governments. One living in the middle east ought to understand that well enough.
Have you tried bacon? Or any other pork products? They're pretty damn good.
Did you fast this past ramadan?
>>699156006
help me, do i maiden for the Supreme Being or is it wrong to his true creation of my breasts and enlarged bottom, I dont want to be graphic but I am easily a 8/10 female, my nipples are able to lactate I could feed holy sons...
Allah make it known I would be a virgin for his need
Do you think that your religion is above the law? Like, you will kill for your religion because your religion says so?
ROTFL: This statement is priceless:
"Islam is not a religion of peace. Religions, philosophies, doctrines are just words. The interpreter is the one who will interpret the text violently or peacefully depending on his inherent nature".
>>699155360
Not at all. Since when is "well-regulated militia" synonymous with good guys. They can either be good, as they were in Egypt, or bad as they are in Syria. Good and bad being determined by their impact to the innocent people living in the region.
Why should a Syrian doctor be expected to kill himself fighting against ISIS when he can benefit himself, his family and the recipient country with his skill.
War should not involve the innocent who have no bearing in the conflict. When Morocco was on the brink of war against Algeria over the Western Sahara, I was already ready to leave and go study in China, which I ended up doing anyways. Why should I kill myself to protect a resource that I will never benefit from?
>>699155468
Pretty bad, it paints a bad image of Muslims and deters from the real problem.
>>699155504
It's possible.
>>699155524
Refer to: >>699155366
>>699155527
This is a hard question. Better to ask an Imam who is open to speaking of such subjects. I am unfamiliar with this issue. I would guess that regardless of how you assume your gender if you are a devout Muslim then God will have no judgement bearing on what you cannot control.
>>699155840
>>699156003
Buzzword questions. If you truly care please formulate your question appropriately and I will address it. I don't want to waste time. In short, refer to other posts.
>>699156057
Can it also be that Canadians treat immigrants much better and include them easily into society compared to the USA?
>>699156151
We all sin. The relative impact of your sins has more bearing than the simple number of sins. I prefer to commit relatively harmless sins such as lust in comparison to murder.
>>699156273
I am in the West currently. It's pretty good. Just wish people were more aware of the facts before jumping to conclusions.
Religious leaders have no power. The Imam can sway peoples beliefs because he is well respected. But, that is the extent of their reach.
>>699149584
Why did you chose islam out of thousands of religions that are out there OP? Let me guess, your parents are also muslim. Why don't you start to find out about your spirituality yourself instead of being spoonfed with what to believe in?
>>699156543
No, like Abraham the prophet did, I would disobey.
>>699156569
I answered you, sorry it takes time.
>>699156586
But, you have democracy. You have the power to control the government. We do not, we have dictators. I am not Middle-Eastern though. I am North African.
I have eaten pork by accident one time. It was mediocre.
I did fast this past Ramadan.
>>699156848
God is not a person.
>>699156876
No, the law of the land in which I choose to live comes first. If no country's laws are in accordance with my beliefs then I would go isolate myself. Luckily, most developed countries are based on Christian beliefs which are the same as Muslim beliefs. So everything is smooth sailing.
For example, I would not immigrate to a country where it was law to eat pork on Tuesdays.
>>699157120
Instead of simply disagreeing. Try to voice your opinion so that we can have a dialogue. For example, Darwin presented his theory of evolution. This was a scientific work which is neither violent nor peaceful. Its simply a neutral work. However, it was later interpreted by violent racists and used as rationale for social-Darwinism. Which is violent.
buzzword... sure, op. So, how can you justify Muhammad having sex with child? Isn't Muhammad the role model of every muslim? The carrier of the universal and eternal wisdom of God? Therefore shouldn't he know better?
>>699156848
>>699158011
allah needs followers and families, I would be wife to a father is what I mean.
>>699157667
You should not judge people. Especially, through a computer screen without knowing me in the slightest. Just ask and I will answer you.
My parents are not religious. I have studied every major Abrahamic religion when I was young. I was interested in Eastern religions and moved to China to study where I studied Eastern religion and philosophy at the same time as my real profession. Therefore, I am well versed in most major religions in the world.
I have noticed one thing and that is that all religions are synonymous. They all address the same human predicaments. We as humans all have hurdles in our mind that science is still trying to understand. Religion gives an avenue to make these easier to live through. I can go into more detail if you care.
I am Muslim because of the beauty of the religion. The prayer is very similar to Buddhist meditation and brings much more power to the soul than the prayers in Christianity. Islam's main purpose is Jihad, this means struggle. The struggle of one against his inner self. This is the entirety of what life's struggle is, it's you against yourself. The better you are inside the better you will be on the exterior as well. To change anything in life you can only change yourself. This is jihad.
>>699158192
Lol that's just some Sunni bullshit dude. They made it up to elevate aishas status
>>699158192
He had sex with her after puberty. By today's standard this is considered wrong. However, people all around the world just 4 generations ago were all getting married at around 12-15. The conversation is more about the morality of the act. What should be the constraint for the age of consent?
>>699158243
Ok. Go marry a Muslim guy.
When & where tha fuck did I judge you, OP?
>>699158942
Muslim guy will sleep with a shemale; fill her to the top with his seed, but they wont marry a transgender. Ive asked and all I get is dick in the mouth
Yo, Genie guy again.
See this is the problem, there is meta-physics/magical mumbo jumbo in every religion but no one takes that seriously and considers it to ramblings of 1000s year old ignorant people or just pure symbolism.
But muslims insist their religion is right to the dot. Look at the hoops you jumped in both the answers to justify Genies in Q'ran.
"There is no way to know for certain" .... or like other religions somethings are made up in Islam/Q'ran too??
How can you be 100% sure of something that has 100% no proof.
Are you lying to yourself OP? Peer pressure, stupidity of large numbers?
Side note: Since i have heard this Q'ran being word of God thing many times, you mean to say every single muslim in the world believes in other-dimensional-time-travelling Genies?
>>699149584
' We all sin '
Who decides whats a sin.
Il presume you are going to say ' God'
So, can you show me the list ?
>>699149584
Why dont you thinkl for yourself instead of some recycled monotheistic bullshit written by men 1400 years ago ?
>>699149584
Why are you a Muslim ?
>>699149584
Op tell me how does it feel to be Muslim? and does people think Your gonna bomb something ? if so i am so sorry how people treated your guys ~Your lovely neighbors from Northern Ontario
>>699159507
Dont bother buddy. That 'infallible' book also states that the sun goes round the earth and semen is produced in the spine.
>>699158942
So morality and standards weren't set by Muhhammed? Religion doesn't do that? And it is pretty doubtfull that Aisha had pass puberty.
>>699149584
What is your opinions on sjw, feminists and all that bullshit ?
>>699159166
Not sure who you are.
>>699159507
You asked me what the d'jinn were and I answered you. But, if you want the perception of the story of the d'jinn and other Q'ranic stories in the eyes of Muslims that is different. Most Muslims understand that the stories in the Q'ran are just hyperbole. They symbolic stories that try to explain complex stories to people who have not spent considerable amounts of time on these issues. For example, less Muslims believe in Adam and Eve being a historical retelling than you would think. Most, Muslims believe in evolution, it is taught in schools and is accepted as truth.
4th dimensional beings are possible. According to Hawking's theory, there could be beings who can live in the 4th dimension. What's so improbable about that? But, this is irrespective of the Q'ran. Whether, they exist or not, does not change the messages that were brought using the passages relating to the d'jinn. Hyperbole.
No one 100% believes in d'jinn, Adam and Eve, Noah, Moses, and all these other stories. They're stories that tell many things about our own selves. Stories that we can learn from.
However, let's get into the physics, without religion. Why are you so opposed to 4th dimensional beings? We are third dimensional beings, why can't higher dimensional beings exist?
>>69916036
That has been debunked last i checked about the sperm thing
>>699160569
She was 9.
>>699160697
Again... Why are you a Muslim ?
I can answer for you if you're not sure..
Why do you guys objectify, discriminate against and disrespect women so much? It's like you never evolved past the 18th century or something. Or at least that's what I've seen on the internet.
>>699160697
>>699159439
what do I do? Would any be interested in me? Islamic trans woman
>>699161311
That was added later. Early Christianity also did the same. Women used to fight in Muhammads armies. ( Not op )
>>699149584
>Don't forget we don't need to be praying all day every day to be Muslim.
True; Islam is all about the misogyny and hatred festering in your soul, not about how many times you pray on a given day.
>>699159875
Ten commandments are the sins you must avoid.
>>699160023
Refer to: >>699158544
>>699160138
Islam provides tools by which to make life easier by mending some of the hardships that life brings. For example, it is well known that the brain likes routine, this has been proven using MRI studies. The brain performs better and uses less energy performing the same tasks when done routinely, this is known as static plasticity. As a result ritual is important for the mind. In a hectic life, if you introduce a ritual it will help the mind find peace. There are many other similar examples.
>>699160313
It feels pretty regular. Most people are completely fine. It's just a few people sometimes who do things that may be insulting.
>>699160569
No. Mohammed does not set morality and standards. He simply became enlightened and spoke the word of God. He himself stated that he might not go to heaven for the wrongs he committed.
It's written in the Q'ran that she had passed puberty.
>>699160588
These are all buzzwords. SJW, people who care about the rights and ethical treatment of others. Is that a bad thing?
>>699152426
you're stupid, mexico hasn't a wall in the south its just a fucking river
>>699161063
I answered you. Refer to: >>699161884
>>699161311
Women have been disrespected in the past few years. Most of what the Q'ran taught has been disregarded in recent years. There was a decline in the Middle-East that affected all aspects of life. Including the treatment of women.
>>699161465
I really don't know much on the subject.
>>699161736
Islam's first goal is the freeing of the mind.
>>699160697
Did 9 year olds pass puberty in the 7th century.
Also. Do you speak Arabic ?
>>699161884
It's written in the Q'ran that she had passed puberty
Really? In which verse, please?
>>699162276
No. Its not freeing of the mind.
Its submission. Clues in the name bud
>>699158942
Aisha was like 9 when he fucked her dude. You're not a fundamental muslim, which means you aren't retarded. You should seriously question your faith, if you find regardless of how much your religion contradicts the real world, you still want to follow Allah then call for reformation. Islam needs to reform to better reflect our era, otherwise ISIS, Al Qaeda, etc. Will keep happening.
What do you feel about this?
>>699161884
Got my Koran right here bud. Do you want to tell me where it says she passed puberty ?
>>699162430
OP is chatting shit. Aisha wasn't even nine anyway, that's just a false narration made by sunnis
Let's say there's some dude who's a great fighter for humanitarian but has a good reason to not follow the commandments of the Q'ran in order to achieve a greater goal for all of humanity, not meaning some machiavelic faggot like Hitler or something who kills millions for a supposed greater good, but someone who does good deeds all his life and helps people around him greatly for some ultimate peace goal, but doesn't wanna believe in Allah for his own reasons.
Would your god be understanding to him and allow him some peace on the afterlife or is it like a catholicism deal where if you aren't baptized and shit you go to hell no questions asked?
>>699162407
Some girls go through puberty very young. I also have a friend who only went through puberty at 16. I speak a bit of Arabic. I grew up in Tinghir. I speak Tamazight.
>>699162430
I just googled it, you could have as well. Sahih al-Bukhari, 7:62:64
>>699161884
>enlightened and spoke the word of God
and so that's what? The word of God hasn't standards or morality. So what does it have?
>>699162929
>Qur'an
>bukhari
Pick one
>>699150183
In case a nigger shows up. Can't be too careful
>>699149584
Why do muslims think that ISIS and other groups dont represent you. If a nazi was saying the exact same things, "Hitler doesn't represent me, Im a peaceful nazi" etc, we wouldnt take them seriously.
>>699162738
This is happening as we speak. Its a Religion in an existential crisis with modernity The fundamentalists know this and is why theyre fighting back ( Not op )
>>699149584
How come your holy word was first published in 1924 in Cairo?
>>699163163
If a German said Hitler didn't represent them, it would name sense though.
Also, Hitler=Nazi
Isis=/=muslim
>>699162848
That's why there is no god that religion understands. If there is a god it's not this heaven or hell bullshit. That's why I like the Jew philosophy, pay respect to your heritage and actively be a good person in life and you will be rewarded by g-d. I'm an arheist but if I had to pick Islam, Judaism or Christianity, call me a jew.
>>699162929
That's not the Q'ran, that's a hadith, you idiot.
How can someone be a muslim and not know the difference? OP must be a fag
What is your excuse for not seeking Yeshua?
>>699162929
If you dont speak/read Arabic then you havnt read the Koran. So wtf are you talking about ?
One time I was blowing this middle eastern muslim man from my study group in college.
I swallowed his whole load and they licked him until he came again. When I told him I was trans he was pretty excited, anal was shortly after and i got to suck him again. being a wife should be this everyday but my small 3incher makes marriage spooky for them.
>>699163431
Starting to think OP is trolling...
OP is trollin
>>699163389
Find something that ISIS does that isnt in the quran. They absolutely are muslims. If you dont like their behaviour, why stay in the religion.
>>699163389
ISIS are Muslim. It's the no true scotsman fallacy. Hitler rose to power in Germany but Nazi's were global, the same as fundamentals who support ISIS. Germans weren't all Nazi's and not all Iraqi's are ISIS, but ISIS is muslim as much as Nazi's hated Jews
>>699152173
Yellow eyes?
ITT OP is a well spoken and thought out man, other Anons can't get over shit.
>muh sand niggers
You really don't have a reason to hate op.
>>699163490
normal arabic and quran arabic are different you know. You can be able to read the quran however you wont be able to read normal arabic such as Egyptian writing unless you learn the language
>>699162929
And by the way, that Sahih al-Bukhari 7:62:64 states that she was 9. Not puberty age, OP...
As a Muslim, do you see most of those extreme rules scattered throughout the Qur'an like most Christians do things that were said one time, and vaguely, somewhere in the Bible? Like, how much of it is important and how much is the equivalent of "The Bible implied this one time in this passage and never mentioned it again, you better fucking do it or you burn in hell"?
You know what... OP may be a bit of a chancer but at least he represented.
And his chosen subject was VERY insubstantial.
Props to you dude ! ( Pantheist)
>>699149584
Hi, Vanessa.
>>699162688
Submission to God. But, freeing the mind is the number one goal of a Muslim, this is jihad. It's all in the Q'ran.
>>699162738
>>699162793
>>699162843
I general, there is no proof that Aisha was 9. There is no age that is stated in the Q'ran. He consummated the marriage as they migrated to Mecca. There is a lot of controversy concerning the actual age. No one knows. However, it can be anywhere from 9-17. These are the ages that are quoted by many researchers. Regardless, this is of very little interest to me. Refer to: >>699162929
for the verse.
>>699162755
No type of way. Most Muslims growing up have witnessed this first hand, if you know what I mean.
>>699162848
No one on Earth can judge in the place of God, therefore I do not know what God would consider good and bad. However, in the Q'ran there is a quote I remember referring to the good actions of a non-believer being of greater respect than the bad actions of a believer.
>>699162948
It does have standards and morality.
>>699163086
It's Hadith. I am typing pretty fast answering all these people. As the words come to my mind I just type.
>>699163163
Anon answered you fairly. Why don't Sufi Muslim represent all of us? Because we are all individuals, none bad like ISIS, none good liek Sufis.
>>699163278
Pretty much. People's mindsets and understanding of the rleigion is changing.
>>699163312
No it was not lol. I saw a Q'ran written in year 1200 in South China by a Chinese Hui Muslim Imam that traveled to Mecca.
>>699163410
I hope you know that the representation of God in Judaism is the one accepted by Muslims.
>>699163431
Refer to the guy I responded to above. English is my third language and I am typing pretty fast. Sorry for these small mistakes about things I care very little about. I am more interested in the existential and philosophical questions rather than Aisha, ISIS, Taqiya, blah blah, buzzwords.
>>699149584
is the 72 virgin thing when you die a thing or was it just a ruse made up by bin-laden?
>>699150949
Canadian here, you're an idiot. I own several guns, and everyone I know has several too. Stop trying to imply that anti-gun cultures and individuals are somehow more progressive.
>>699164161
Thats a ' No' then.
Ask me anything on the Bible buddy. Ive never read that either !
>>699149584
Why are your people so inherently violent and emotional?
>>699163490
>21st century
>translations available in most languages
>>699149584
I prefer to have guns for fun, protection and a dream that if I'm called to action to protect this country from any invasion I'll be ready.
The debate for guns or not is more about the right to defend yourself or rely upon a failing government to protect me.
Not to mention, much of the mid western and southern states rely on taxes made from hunting. I.e. tags, licenses, etc.
Plus, I still have a fire extinguisher and several first aid kits. Yet those are actually promoted in media to have at home.
This country was made by independent people for independent people. Men and women who wish to rely on themselves and not on others. The more you restrict society, the more you restrict their independence.
I'll give my guns up when I can trust the cops to protect me and mine within a moments notice. Only way that happens is if I give up all my privacy and rights to defend or decide for myself.
>>699164889
Nice try .But its not the word of god. Its the word of men.
>>699163457
We do, he is named Issa in Islam.
>>699163490
Anon answered you correctly. Even if I spoke moroccan Arabic I would not be able to understand the Q'ran. You need to specifically study Q'ranic language to understand the Q'ran. Moreover, Tamazight is written with Arabic script or local script, so I can read the script. I also learned Arabic at school but, it was just at school.
My languages are: Tamazight, French, English, Spanish (poor), Arabic (poor).
>>699163728
>>699163854
They are Muslim. Sufis are also Muslim. They are both extreme, one extreme violence the other extreme peace. Neither reasonable ways to live a healthy, productive life. Refer to earlier post regarding the violent or peaceful nature of ideologies.
>>699163873
Yeah it's a rare trait but so beautiful. Like the girl on the National Geographic magazine, sad picture, but beautiful eyes.
>>699163988
Thanks man. Some people have anger within themselves and rather argue and hate rather than have a decent conversation. Some people ask really good questions though, challenging questions are the best.
>>699164161
True.
>>699164169
No, it does not give a number. It states puberty.
>>699164202
Exactly. To be a Muslim all you need to do is adhere to the ten commandments and the five pillars of Islam.
>>699164289
What are you replying to?
>>699149584
Will agnostics/atheists go to hell even if they did good deeds?
>>699149584
you again... dude can you stop missing misinformation for fucks sake ?
Actual muslim here, ama.
>>699164628
It's written in the Q'ran in one of the stories.
>>699164631
Please read the thread. Refer to: >>699154529. You do not see a problem with the american gun ownership laws.
>>699164713
I answered your question. I, as well as Muslims study Q'ranic language at school. We all understand it. However, if I were to speak Q'ranic Arabic people would not understand and I would have significant difficulty expressing my day to day thoughts due to the poetic nature that is required in the Q'ran Arabic language.
>>699165092
Ok.
>>699165741
>No, it does not give a number. It states puberty
No:
"Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death)"
>>699149584
Why do you constantly feel the need to argue the validity of your faith ?
>>699157120
Yes, I thought that response was a bit too evasive as well. So I hunted up another answer.
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Meaning_of_Islam
gives this commentary:
Misconception 1
Islam is `the religion of peace' because:
• the Arabic word Islam is derived from the Arabic word "Al-Salaam" which means peace.
It might seem strange to think of this as a misconception, but in fact it is. The root word of Islam is "al-silm" which means "submission" or "surrender." It is understood to mean "submission to Allah." In spite of whatever noble intention has caused many a Muslim to claim that Islam is derived primarily from peace, this is not true. Allah says in the Qur'an (translated):
[2:136] Say (O Muslims): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed to us and that which was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have surrendered. [Arabic "Muslimoon"]
A secondary root of Islam may be "Al-Salaam" (peace), however the text of the Qur'an makes it clear that Allah has clearly intended the focus of this way of life to be submission to Him. This entails submission to Him at all times, in times of peace, war, ease, or difficulty.
So the stonings of rape victims and the beheadings of drug addicts (after first administering sedatives!) are, by Pakistani and Saudi interpretations, true submission to Allah's will. Does Allah have anything to say about these interpretations of His will? Or is he just as sick and twisted as Yahweh?
>>699166354
Hes be right at home on /b !
>>699166354
Im this guy >>699166047
Okay, he had sex with a 9 year old girl when it was normal for that kind of thing to happen, aisha was engaged before mohammad PBUH married her.
>>699166391
Why not ? Its fun.
>>699166269
Do you believe in that 72 virgins story?
>>699166035
Refer to: >>699164522
>>699166047
What misinformation? If an individual adheres to the ten commandments as commanded in the Q'ran and the five pillars of Islam, how can one be actual/not actually a Muslim?
Who's interpretation is more correct? What basis for correctness can you give?
I can answer these questions, can you?
I have studied this extensively. I know what I am talking about.
>>699166586
No. But seriously. Why do you feel the need to constantly argue the validity of your faith ?
>>699149584
Just to clarify because I hate misinformation being spread, you DO fill out a background check with an online gun purchase. You make your purchase, call a firearms dealer with an FFL license, they accept the transfer. You go the shop, fill out your background check and if you pass, you get your firearm. Now can it be done differently? Absolutely. If Scooter tells cooter on facebook that he'll buy his AR at a Dennys for 250 bucks, then there isn't much we can do to stop that. Guns are necessary to having a free and protected people. WIll the government rise up and try to literally overthrow the people and establish complete control? Unlikely. But we are prepared none the less, and our laws that allow us to protect ourselves are equally as important. Australia and like countries still have huge amounts of violent crime, just not with as many gun related crimes. Criminals will get their hands on something no matter what, so I would like to be able to protect myself in that unlikely but possible event. 2A
>>699166354
I have my Hadith, there is no age stated in mine. You must have a central Sunni Hadith. Moreover, I do agree that the majority of historians state that they concimated the marriage when she was 9. I already addressed this.
>>699166391
It is interesting to challenge my beliefs in the most free-speaking place on the internet. Moreover, I am procrastinating on my research.
>>699166593
Yes I believe in the story, the story exists. I do not however, believe that their will actually be 72 virgins awaiting for me in heaven. I believe that is a metaphor for all of the worldly pleasures will be available multiply over in heaven. However, I do not even believe that is the full interpretation of heaven. I think heaven is however an individual desires it to be.
>>699166740
I never said you arent muslim, but moving on, I recall you saying that as humans we dont have the power to say whos a good muslim who is not, thats one piece of mis information, I cant trust you not to spread anymore.
>>699166900
Its fun, seriously.
I live in Britain and I think the dumbest thing you can say in America is that guns should be banned. Who would that help, no one gang bangers would still be able to get guns and a law abiding citizen wont be able to do shit to protect their family and property
>>699167257
You feel the need to challenge your beliefs ?
>>699166900
nice dubs. Refer to: >>699167257
>>699166928
Should Scooter and Cooter's type of transaction be banned?
>>699167332
It's not. "La ilaha illallah", this is a very powerful statement. There is no God but God. We are equal on this plane. Therefore you have no authority over any other to make statements as to the validity of the belief of any individual.
>>699167429
Yes, the best way to learn is to challenge what you already know. I am a researcher, all I do is question myself and my work. All day, everyday. I try to explore every possibility, I go present my work to professionals who challenge my work. Through this process I end up with a better solution. The same is true in other aspects of life, when it comes to my beliefs, I try to challenge them to better understand them. Sometimes people say very interesting things that I ponder upon for some time and cause me to discover a lot of very interesting new angles.
why muslims are allowed to marry jews and not hindus or Christians even though jews are eternal enemies to muslims
and why muslim philosophy is so sexist?
and btw are you Pakistani ?
>>699167332
Bitchfight ! Here we go....
>>699167257
And why isn't there a 72 virgin men story for women? So accordingly to the Q'ran, what's the metaphor for the pleasures waiting for them in heaven? Or aren't them worthy too?
>>699167892
But your not challenging your beliefs. Other people are. Your vehemently defending them.
>>699167896
I am Moroccan. Jews and Muslims are not eternal enemies. This is a very new thing that all stemmed from Israel foreign policy. In my neighborhood growing up there were a lot of Jews, they were the same as the Muslims. That's why you often hear people say they are Moroccan Jews. Muslim are allowed to marry Christians as well. They are also the chosen people.
Not Hindus because you do not have faith in God. You are polytheists which is a mortal sin to Jews, Christians and Muslims.
Islam actually pushes a lot of equalizing ideas in terms of gender. however, the regression of Muslim countries in recent times has caused Muslims to disregard a lot of the fundamentals that used to be instrumental to the Islamic Golden Age.
>>699167460
As an avid gun owner, yes. SHould all private sales be banned? Absolutely not. A WW2 vet that wants to pass down his old rifle to a grandson, can be a seriously good bonding experience. A memento for when he passes. Now, to combine that with the scooter/cooter transaction, I believe if you bring the rifle to an FFL dealer and sign paperwork WITH a background check, and get it transferred then I see no harm. Same thing but modified for the grandfather situation. Gramps takes billy to the shop, he gets it transferred to billys name and he will take ownership of the rifle upon turning 18 years old. Meanwhile, the gun will officially be registered to his mother/father for safe keeping. ANother important piece to this whole argument though is proper information and SAFETY. Anywhere you go such as a shooting range or gun club, there is no higher rule than safety and it should be taught before buying any type of firearm. The situation of robbers stealing legally owned guns can be cut down entirely if every gun owner knew how to properly store and protect their firearm. All of mine are trigger locked and kept in a safe, except for my "bump in the night" Glock 17 which is hidden extremely well but still accessible for home invasion. Knowledge is power people.
>>699167892
Yes, we can, islam is very clear on what we can and cant do, if you do X when you arent supposed to do it, you are a bad muslim, theres even a hadith that says that the only difference between humans is their taqwa so no, you are wrong.
>>699167937
Your mom.
>>699168273
its very difficult to challenge your own beliefs because of things like cognitive dissonance.
>>699167937
I simply dislike people telling me what my beliefs are or making a judgement without any knowledge of my credentials.
>>699168163
They are promised all the pleasures they desire.
>>699168273
I am not doing this Q&A 24/7. Other times I spend reading and understanding other perspectives and beliefs. If you read the thread you would have known that I lived and studied Eastern philosophy and religion in China for a few years. I have spent considerable amount of time thinking about a plethora of questions pertaining to life, existentialism and the betterment of the soul and mind.
Most people on here are asking very basic questions that are considered in introductory philosophy and religious course.
To avoid the slander, I am a research engineer in the field of cancer detection by profession. This philosophy and religion is just my passion. I do it on the side of my job, like now I am procrastinating, so I am here.
>>699168286
>Muslim are allowed to marry Christians as well.
Both male and female? Female muslim is allowed to marry a Christian?
>>699168650
Hhahahaa ! Im one step away from kicking this prop from out underneath you Sir.
But you seem a very nice man and i dont do ' Death by Cop '
Have a nice day Sir and may your God go with you !
>>699168286
man that was quite the lesson for me and how did you knew that i am hindu i never stated that, and also are hinduism views that different ? and i can't say we are polytheists we also believe that there was only one who created all of us but in our mythologies there are a lot of gods . that god word is not used as the creator of everyone but just a more power full being as compared to average human these gods are all in a way keepers of order and religion and slaves of god
>>699149584
Your will never be happy as long as you are part of the islam cult. You will never think for yourself or have self respect. You are a religious zealot ; a dog. Even dogs are better people than muslims. The islamic doctrine is for sub-human races who didn't evolve much more than the negro. Suicide is your best option.
Why do you muslims fight each other so much over religion? Rest of the world has mostly chilled out on religious differences but you guys still angry enough to kill
>>699168286
>Moroccan
Do you like your country, Morocco?
>>699168990
Not op, but no.
>>699169167
I dont understand :^(
>>699169294
Im muslim and im pretty happy.
>>699169319
Political and land wars disguised as religious wars because religion is a good motivator for non educated people.
>>699168650
Who is the antechrist in muslim religion?
>>699169514
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Masih_ad-Dajjal
>>699169650
Sooo someone who is not blind from one eye, can't be your antichrist ?
>>699168317
I agree with the transfer that you suggested. I think that is how it works here in canada. My friend has one of his grand-father's rifles from WW2.
>>699168650
Taqwa is not a measure of goodness or statute within the Muslim hierarchy. There is no hierarchy, there is simply all of us people and above us God.
Reconsider the questions I posed to you and consider this comment: >>699168980
>>699168990
Technically yes. However, Christianity says that they must marry someone who is baptized and a Muslim cannot be baptized. Therefore, in practice no they cannot get married.
However, if he was willing to sin and not marry someone who is baptized, then there would be no sin on the Muslims part.
>>699169467
Your looking to change your relationship with your faith in my opinion.Your just not sure how and when to do it. These things usually work themselves out tho. Try pot !
Goods day Sir !
>>699150949
you're missing the point, the reason we have guns is simply because its in our right. we believe it is our basic human right to be allowed to own weapons. and i dont see why the fuck not. the only arguments are based upon some unrealistic sense of morality and good and evil. if i want to shoot a duck, cow, or negro, fuck i goddam should be able to. i also should be able to understand the consequences in dealing with that. preventing shootings doesn't require getting rid of the right to bear arms. if that measn more weapons in the us that so be it, its a basic fucking right. the whole idea of american government is to have as little government as possible
>>699169767
I dont know enough to tell you yes or no.
>>699169831
I do believe that it is, and I dont believe that "all of us people and above us god", because if that is true then hell wouldnt exist, and the fact that different levels of heaven exist tells us that not all muslims are equal.
>>699170187
I cant do drugs, and what you said is not true, or at the very least I cant vouch to actively feeling that way.
>>699169190
It was just a guess. I stayed in India for a while to learn some things about Hinduism. Not much though. So I do not know the intricacies. It's a super interesting religion though, and the birthing idea for buddhism which I know quite a bit about.
>>699169294
I am happy. Read the thread. Are you happy?
>>699169319
Most of the wars are based on the desire to control the resources and land of the others. They use religion as a means to rally up the troops in the midst of an uneducated and divided populace.
>>699169349
Yes, very much so. It's a beautiful place to travel to. All my friends from abroad that I have brought back to Morocco have loved it. It's just devoid of economic opportunity. Moreover, it does not care about the kind of work I do. Therefore I cannot live there.
>>699169514
Anon answered you. It's almost the same as in Christianity.
>>699169767
These are stories.
>>699169831
Are you from 780?
>>699170473
I'm glad, OP. Cause then makes entire sense to me to thank you. Morroco is helping my country right now by promptly sending two firefighting planes to help us put down terrible bushfires, here in Portugal. Thanks!
i am not muslim but i live in a muslim country i do know quite a bit about islam but the thing is why is Muhammad (saw) that loved why is he always considered more than average human being and is literally not considered equal as compared other prophets other prophets are stated pretty much like average man but with little more qualities. why is that , i don't know why but i always feel it unfair to other prophets
>>699170995
>>699170995
simply because he endured so much but all prophets are "equal" to god and should be so to us.
>>699170187
I have smoked pot extensively when I was young. Morocco is one of the biggest producers.
>>699170277
Laws can be changed with changing world. What is determined to be a basic right can also be changed.
>>699170418
Firstly, taqwa is defined as Islamic term for being conscious & cognizant of Allah, of truth, of the rational reality, "piety, fear of God".
What does this have to do with any sort of measure of goodness? Moreover, how can there be a measure of goodness, who would judge and by what standard? Only God has this power, we do not know the extent of the effect of each of our actions, only God does.
I am not saying that all Muslims are equally good. They are not. However, only God can judge this. When an individual makes this judgement they are only guessing on God's behalf which is a sin.
>>699149584
>implying we're religious
go blow up something, you sandnigger
>>699170612
No, Montreal here. You're Edmonton I guess?
>>699170705
Portugal is really nice too. I have traveled to Algarves and Porto and a few other places. It's great.
>>699170995
The anon that replied is correct. In the Q'ran all prophets are equal. Mohammed is only revered due to him being the last messenger of God and his symbolic meaning to Muslims, however this treads on idolatry which is sin.
>>699153083
I'm Australian and have shotguns, a .243 and an air rifle. All legally owned. We just don't have automatics.
did Muhammad (saw) had knowledge of future as it is called "gaib" and also i have there is little to nothing written about astrology still Muslims believe in it exclusively
>>699169767
It may be figurative rather than literal, eg someone who is very biased and doesn't see both sides of things, or someone who ignores the obvious (whatever that may be)
So what does Q'ran says about polythiests like hindus?
Kill em?
Do you consider yourself a secular muslim?
>>699171373
Some are some aren't. Equivalently to Muslims. Some pray, some don't.
>>699171704
I have no knowledge about this. I'll look into it.
Concerning astrology, this is a sin in Islam. A problem with religion is that most people often times hold tightly onto their cultural practices and beliefs albeit the religion telling them it's sinful. My grandmother born and raised in Morocco, Muslim, had face tribal face tattoos, these are a sin in Islam. But, all old ladies have them in Morocco, it's cultural. The same was that astrology is cultural to many ethnic groups which are majority Muslim.
>>699171289
I know the first thing.
God judges it by the standards of his own teachings ?
Guess what, if you drink, you are a worse muslim that a person who doesnt drink, if you commit zina, you are a worse muslim than a person who didnt etc.
Its a sin to say someone isnt muslim, not the degree of their islam.
>>699171704
He supposedly did, and astrology is prohibited, even in a "just for fun" manner.
>>699171974
Nope, just dont follow their religion and that polytheism is a big sin.
>>699172087
Not op, but I do not.
>>699171974
Some verses say that. Other say to show them compassion and love by helping them understand God. I have no need to do neither. Let Hindus be happy in their belief if they are happy.
>>699172087
No. I am Muslim and abide by the strictest definition of Islam. The strictest definition does not state that any random rule that is cherry picked from the Q'ran must be made law. A Muslim is any individual who adheres to the ten commandments and the five pillars of Islam.
>>699172417
Right, God judges based on his teachings. However, a human does not have sufficient foresight to understand the extent to his teachings therefore is ill prepared to judge any other human.
You are simplifying the issue. Let me complicate things. How about a non-practicing Muslim who drinks, but all day every day he does good. He treats people equally, with respect, dignity and has a positive impact on the world and himself. In contrast a practicing Muslim that goes to mosque and then goes home and hits his wife.
Is the one who drinks a worse Muslim?
I have to go soon, you seem well able to answer the questions.
This has been an amazingly interesting thread havent seen this in /b/ for a long time
>>699172116
>>699172417
just like you 2 guys my friend was talking about islam and other guy asked did muhammad had knowledge of future my friend said no and an other guy came running with quran in his hand and telling he did possess knowledge of gaib and if you don't believe it, it will be a sin and something like that
>>699173008
When you found out Muhammad isn't real and neither is God, how badly did you want to kill yourself for wasting your life on a lie?
>>699172547
Was this OP?
>>699172988
I disagree once more, you are correct in that we dont have the correct insight, but before I go deeper, do tell, why did god tell us X is good and Y is bad and we should do and avoid them respectevly rather than saying do X and avoid y PERIOD ?
Both are bad muslims as you arent supposed to drink nor hit your wife with the intention of hurting her, so we need to know the severity of these issues and I dont know much in that regard.
Sorry if I come on a little strong, I have done a lot to stay muslim in my life and this topic kind of gets to me.
>>699173224
As said, he probably did.
>>699173548
I mean, mohamamd isnt real ? Like I could understand saying god isnt real but mohammad pbuh ? quality bait mate.
>>699173810
I do believe so.
I love Islam, I cant even begin to explain how entertaining it is to watch religions claim that theirs is the one true religion but with Islam you have the added bonus of laughing at how they actually beleive this while living in the butthole of the world fighting over dirt with the lowest possible quality of life possible.
It really is great, 10/10, would read again.
to all muslims here:
Do you secretly want whole world to be converted into Islam?
Why do you want rest of the world to follow your stupid outdated conservative customs?
If i draw a picture of a man and write muhhmad below it, would some of you come and kill me?
>>699173918
lol he mad
if God isn't real, Muhammad wasn't his prophet, Muhammad wasn't real in the sense you plebs believe- you live your life on a based on a stupid lie and it's hilarious to watch you try to justify it and beat around the bush
>>699174306
Its not a secret, I want the entire world to be muslim, but I dont want it to be forced, I want everyone to willingly want to be muslim, impossible right now but is it what I want.
Everyone wants people to have the same outlook on like regardless of what goes on through your life realistically.
Some would, but you arent supposed to seeing as you arent drawing mohammad, as we dont know how he looks.
>>699174394
I dont beat around the bush, Ask me anything.
>>699174808
>Everyone wants people to have the same outlook on like regardless of what goes on through your life realistically.
No. What do i care what you think about. Live and let live man.
>>699174961
Okay then, ill say my own perspective even though Im 100% sure you wished some people thought the way you do from time to time.
Put simply, I believe islam and its teaching are good and I want everyone to have a good life.
>/pol/ here
All Muslims must be executed, they are the enemy of the West and personal liberty
>>699175597
All religious people should be executed, Muslims would just be first on the list. The rest of us are tired of the shit that gets carried out in the name of religion because people are too scared to admit nothing happens when you die.
>>699149584
Prove that your beliefs are logically and objectively valid. Leave out all arguments of individual perception and interpretation, conjecture, subjectivity or otherwise baseless anecdotal statements.
Support your arguments with definitively proven fact without referring to your scriptures.
>>699175565
>some people
Yes. And some people think like me. Enough people near me think like me to not give a fuck about most people near me who dont think like me. I like it that i can share my thoughts with them, but i dont feel a need whatsoever to have more people feel the same way i do.
>>699176737
You literally told me to "live and let live" not ten minutes ago, and you want everyone to do so, just like me with Islam.
>>699175879
To be fair there are a lot less terrorist attacks committed by every other religion combined.
>>699176934
When did i say i want everyone to do so?
Everyone should do what they want, i dont care what you do, as long as they dont bother other people with it.
But i wasnt even speaking about doing, i was speaking about thinking. Everyone can think like they want, period.
>>699177100
In non-muslim countries there are even more terrorist attacks committed by non-religious people than religious people though.
There's terrorism everywhere, and the main form it takes is the form of the native country.
Atheist here.
>>699149584
So you're about as muslim as they are christian.
Meaning you believe in a higher power but do the exact opposite of their teachings.
Wont this sort of behaviour send you to infidel hell?
>>699177501
Atheism is like 123 million (source needed) killed in their name.... I think our ideas of terrorism are different, I look at it as a multiple person killing based upon political/and now religious reasons
>>699177294
You never said it but why does one person, me, matter so much that you say it to him ?
Right, so you want people to think like you do in a sense that they should think whatever they want but not bother people with it.
>But i wasnt even speaking about doing, i was speaking about thinking. Everyone can think like they want, period.
Everyone can and should think the way they I want, Im saying I want everyone to be muslim by their own free will.
>>699177647
No one can say who goes to hell and who doesnt but the more sins you commit you are more likely to go to hell.
>>699177872
https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/4u4ld6/debunking_myths_about_islam/
>>699175565
>>699174306
>>699174808
1) But i dont want your relgion when there are better options available.
2) Where do you learn such round about BS, does Zakir Naik has a secret whatsapp group for all muslims?
3) Yeah, but we are talking about killing a person? you cool with that as long as someone else does it? You didn't say it was WRONG.
"... I believe islam and its teaching are good and I want everyone to have a good life..." <-- DONT MAKE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT OTHERS.
PS: Islam's teachings are not good, Buddhism is better.
What do you see when you imagine a Budhhist? Monks meditating in monastries, i can dig that.
Islam: People with swords bleeding children in the name of festival, no thanks.
>>699154519
>counting lebs as whitey
Righto m80
>>699177872
>I look at it as a multiple person killing based upon political/and now religious reasons
Add ideological to that and you've got the complete definition.
But no, we dont have different ideas because i was also thinking about the same thing.
For example, Anders Breivik was atheist, yet his actions were clearly ideological and political, therefore terrorist.
Gay-bashing is ideological most of the time, and therefore terrorist.
Hooliganism is ideological and therefore terrorist.
>>699178133
>1) But i dont want your relgion when there are better options available.
I want islam to be accepted by your own free will, if you dont accept it, oh well, but it is what I want, it is not what I am working for, but it is what I want to see.
>2) Where do you learn such round about BS, does Zakir Naik has a secret whatsapp group for all muslims?
Be more specific.
>Yeah, but we are talking about killing a person? you cool with that as long as someone else does it? You didn't say it was WRONG.
When did I say I was cool with it ?
>"... I believe islam and its teaching are good and I want everyone to have a good life..." <-- DONT MAKE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT OTHERS.
??? I didnt make an assumption here, also ironic that you would talk about assumptions.
>PS: Islam's teachings are not good, Buddhism is better.
What do you see when you imagine a Budhhist? Monks meditating in monastries, i can dig that.
Islam: People with swords bleeding children in the name of festival, no thanks.
Incredibly subjective.
>>699178002
>Right, so you want people to think like you do in a sense that they should think whatever they want but not bother people with it.
No. I dont care what people think. As long as they dont bother other people, they can think whatever they want. Said this 3x already.
>Im saying I want everyone to be muslim by their own free will.
I dont care about you thinking that. I dont find it offensive, i even understand you thinking that. I was just explaining to you, that not everyone thinks that people should think like them.
Oh and since you posted the debunking myths, i know for a fact that this is not a myth:
"You shall not rape a woman, unless she is your slave".
>>699178002
I gave your cancer reddit article a brief read, but that argument is invalid
1.) A general attack committed by a Christian does not make it Christian terrorism (ie Timothy McVeigh, angry at government)... Dirty fucking Muslims on the other hand shout Aloha Snackbar with each attack
2.) Crime reports based out of Muslim communities (ie Dearborn, Londonistan, Birminghamistan, etc) are incorrect due to sharia court, and police... Rape in Muslim communities aren't reported due to impossible criteria meant to prosecute.
>so basically, fuck you you're a dirty Muslim, our ancestors fought one another, and we should continue.
>we'll win again and this time not stop until the job is completed
>>699149584
Actually you do need to be praying all day, 3 times in fact while facing the east if you're in the U.S. so you can look at that big ol rock you worship. you're not a real Muslim
>>699178567
>Incredibly subjective.
Not him, but i'll elaborate on his thoughts.
Buddhists: Meditation, respect all life,...
Islamists: Some meditating, some preaching love, some preaching hate, some bleeding children, some terrorists, a lot of them think killing and raping non-muslims is good and most of them look down on non-muslims.
>>699178807
Let me try to explain this once more:
>I dont care what people think. As long as they dont bother other people
Some people believe that it is best to spread a good idea, you want everyone to think whatever they want without "bothering" people, some people think that "bothering" people is good to "help" them, are you seeing what Im trying to say ?
Wanting people is to think what they want without bothering anyone is a mindset you want everyone to have.
>Oh and since you posted the debunking myths, i know for a fact that this is not a myth:
"You shall not rape a woman, unless she is your slave".
Do link the source and I should be able to find a suitable response.
>>699179015
>1.) A general attack committed by a Christian does not make it Christian terrorism (ie Timothy McVeigh, angry at government)... Dirty fucking Muslims on the other hand shout Aloha Snackbar with each attack
How do you know that the person who made that article counted that kind of attack ?
>2.) Crime reports based out of Muslim communities (ie Dearborn, Londonistan, Birminghamistan, etc) are incorrect due to sharia court, and police... Rape in Muslim communities aren't reported due to impossible criteria meant to prosecute.
Sources, please.
>>699178355
Anders Brevik
>yes terrorism
Gay-Bashing
>like Orlando? Yes terrorism
Hooligans
>not relevant to where I live, but quite possibly. Yes terrorism
The point I want to make is that Christians aren't running around screaming Deus Vult... Killing people, unlike Muslims.
>>699179676
1.) Because you dense fuck.... If any Christian committed a terrorist attack in the name of God, we'd all know about it... It'd be reported on extensively.
2.)pic related, don't act dumb
>>699179676
>some people think that "bothering" people is good to "help" them, are you seeing what Im trying to say
Yeah, and that is nice of them in a way, but if the other person says i dont want your "help", just leave him alone.
>Wanting people is to think what they want without bothering anyone is a mindset you want everyone to have.
Think like me =/= you can have peadophilic or aggressive or religious or ideological thoughts however you want, just leave me alone.
>Do link the source and I should be able to find a suitable response
I read the verse from a Turkish Qu'ran.
While travelling, i met an ex-muslim who showed it to me in his parent's house. His parents were still shia's. I dont speak arabic, but i know and read a little, well enough to understand some of the writing and know he wasnt bullshitting me.
>>699180341
Just googled it aswell for you: http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2014/02/does-islam-allow-muslims-to-rape-female.html
Qur’an 23:1-6
Qur’an 70:22-30
>>699149584
>I'm particularly perplexed by Americans needs to have guns
It's a right not a need, and rights don't need to be justified.
>>699180612
They just don't want us to be able to defend ourselves so they can steamroll us like in Iraq and Syria
>>699149584
how do you explain imams not condemning terrorist activity. Lack of condemnation basically ='s association in the worlds eyes, so why??
>>699180612
Everything that could potentially kill needs to be justified in my eyes. Thats the fundamental ideological issue me(non-muslim) and the muslim who made this thread have with US law.
>>699180743
Like the people of Iraq and Syria*
Will europe ever recover from your kind?
>>699180743
Or, we dont want the lunatics in your society to get guns easily. Or we dont want a man who catchis his wife cheating(or vice versa) shooting her in a fit of rage.
I dont have a problem with people having guns. But i think there should just be very tight restrictions for it, plus training(physical and mental). I think you should always go to a shrink multiple sessions in advance so he can detirmine if you are mentally able to own a killer weapon.
Or just more police and train them better, so you will have no needs for guns.
>>699180578
still waiting for this response...
>>699180341
>>699180578
>>699180578
This guy helped me find it so thank you.
https://www.reddit.com/r/islam/wiki/slavery#wiki_-_concubinage_in_islam
>>699180285
Let me say the question again, how do you know that the person who wrote the article counted that kind of attack in his statistics ?
>2.)pic related, don't act dumb
Not acting dumb, how do you know that people dont testify against rapists, etc, is what I wanted sources for, I know how sharia works, mostly.
>>699180811
They are, quick google search should help.
>>699180899
I could potentially choke you to death with my bare hands, but do I need to justify the existence and uses of hands? We use kitchen knives to cook, but because of their potential to kill, should their practical use for things outside of the kitchen be justified?
>>699151543
newfag
detected
>>699181456
>This guy helped me find it so thank you.
That is a lot of text to try and explain where your god would literally say "you can only fuck your wife and your slave". Yes he did not mention the word "slave", but he did say it in the context of slavery after they asked Muhammed if they could have sex with slaves. No amount of text can explain how he meant THAT in a different way.
>>699181973
He didnt mean it in a different way, you can fuck your slave but "legally" she becomes your wife, you fully pay for her and the child, and take care of them, haroon al rashid, an old khalifa was a son of this kind of thing.
>>699181456
legitimate not troll question.. would General jack Pershings "solution" work now. Basically any one who is a proven Islamic terrorist is publicly executed and bathed in pigs blood. If it was known that's what would happen to you if you kill innocents in the name of allah would muslim stop out of fear? It was very succesfull before the internet
>>699181689
Plenty of rage-crimes of people trying to choke others, but then thought better of it halfway have been committed. Cant think better of it when the bullet is halfway. Guns are also a 'safer' way, as in, you are in total controll. This also makes murder easier.
I'm not saying people wont kill without guns anymore, but why make it easy for them?
>>699182252
In Islam any person who kills another without right is a person who will get capital punishment, so half of what you said is already true, but the pigs blood thing is meaningless, we arent supposed to eat pigs, thats it, they arent kryptonite.
>>699182163
>"legally" she becomes your wife,
*Slave wife, and its still rape if she doesnt want it.
Are you really trying to justify rape and slavery because it is justified in your holy book?
>>699182473
>any person who kills another without right
Not the one who asked the question, but i still want to let you know that i have fundimental issues with what the quran defines as right.
I dont think all muslims are vile, but i do think the book they worship is.
Do ISIS, extremism and terror attacks have something to do with Islam/Koran?
>>699182473
so basically western world is too pussy? If we match our punishments with Arab world this stuff would end? Amputations for stealing and so forth. Is the problem just that people are poor, angry (some of it may be legit) and uneducated?
>>699182552
What ? Rape isnt allowed, consensual sex only, read the damn things that were linked.
>Are you really trying to justify rape and slavery because it is justified in your holy book?
Also, quick irrelevant response to doing something I might not agree with because of islamL:
What I came to understand is that what I think doesnt matter, I have a choice in being muslim but not in changing Islam.
>>699182835
Okay, tell me those issues.
>>699182368
By restricting citizens' access to guns, you could argue that this indeed would make it easier for people to commit violent crimes because ordinary people would have now been deprived of their own forcefully equal means of defense.
"So, if someone tries to shoot me, what am I supposed to do without my weapon?"
"Call the police, and pray."
"Alright, I guess I'll keep really big knives around."
"Be careful, citizen. Carrying blades are illegal in most states, and if you stab an burglar, you can be tried for murder, even though the act was defensive in nature."
>>699149584
What do you think about jews?
>>699183038
I dont know, but stealing out of neccsity in islam is okay, you dont get punished for it but rather the leader does, as he is supposed to provide to the poor.
(ofcourse the person who got shit stolen from him gets it back regardless of the reasons of the theft.
>>699182859
Offcourse they do. They preach it, and they live by a lot of what is said in the book. But like almost every religious person, they say the book is holy yet only accept a part of that book. Even the good religious people ignore the bad things their book says, like the muslim above and the rape discussion. Some random links below
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/03/muslim-bbc-chief-says-course-isis-islam-related/
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article39794.htm
>>699182859
Didnt see your question, no they do not.
>>699183238
Not op, but just like any other group of people, I dont say all of them are X or Y
>>699183453
Thanks, the answer i was hoping for, getting suck of all these idiots denying the link, listen to what they say themselves and ur a blind fool for denying
>>699183159
In countries that have gotten rid of most guns, criminals don't really use guns. Basically, if they are caught robbing someone's house that's bad, they might get 10 years. If they are caught robbing with weapons they are absolutely fucked for life.
In those place if you look at the news you'll see articles about shooting stars and shooting for sport.
(not sayings it's a good idea in the US)
>>699183068
>consensual sex only
First of all, nowhere in the Qu'ran verse does it say anything that looks like consensual. Second of all, how many "slaves" would be consensual(having sex with someone out of fear is not consensual)?
>>699183349
unrelated note is there any rational reason for the hatred of the jews beyond occupation of holy territory and the banking practice such as lending that muslims were banned from participating in way back when? I'm talking like say in 1955. Spent some time in Palestine and the common theme was either we just want to be left alone, or we wont stop till all jews in the holy land are dead or gone... but mainly dead.
>>699183726
good answers
>>699183726
They don't?
>>699183068
>I have a choice in being muslim but not in changing Islam
I refuse to believe there is an almighty being that created us and such an incredibly vast universe and then says things like that there are justifications for rape and murder.
>>699183726
>they do not.
The things they preach come straight from the Qu'ran though.
>>699149584
>unrelated note is there any rational reason for the hatred of the jews beyond occupation of holy territory and the banking practice such as lending that muslims were banned from participating in way back when? I'm talking like say in 1955. Spent some time in Palestine and the common theme was either we just want to be left alone, or we wont stop till all jews in the holy land are dead or gone... but mainly dead.
>>699183971
It also doesnt say to rape them. but moving on.
Fear of what ? Did you read the thing I linked ?
>>699183978
The reason is because of the problems the prophet had with the treaties they made, but palestine is not a fair place because they are occupied by jews, cant expect them to like them tbh.
>>699184043
Im not sure if you are being sarcastic.
>>699184046
>>699184370
Give examples and Ill respond.
>>699184229
Right, where are those justifications you speak of ?
US gun shit is boring, its 2nd ammendment + 'Murica identity complex.
Lets continue to hate on Islam
Correct me if iam wrong:
raping slave(s) is ok because then she becomes your wife?
> rape
> slave
> what about the women?
> irony
> ...
> profit???
"Islam has good teachings and whole world should convert to Islam"
>>699184043
>>699184531
I'm serious
>>699149584
You sound educated
Yet you believe in the buraq, sticks turning to snakes, and that Gog and Magog are trapped behind an iron wall somewhere in the world and on Qiyyamah they will cull humanity with arrows.
Kek
>>699184552
You are wrong because you cant rape them.
>>699184690
Thanks.
>>699183902
The thing is, the people of the States think on an entirely different frequency. Everyone and their grandmother believes that it is among one of the most basic human rights as an American to bear arms, and it's my understanding that the vast majority of Americans aren't ready to give up that right.
Think about how difficult it would be for your modern day American nigger to suddenly be pulled out of the environment that he's been conditioned to, and be forced to adhere to the conduct and lifestyle of the average law abiding citizen from any of the countries that heavily sanction weapons. They'd have to adapt, or rot in prison.
Vice versa, someone from one of those gun-regulated countries who supports regulation would probably cringe at the mere thought of moving the States when they discover the high rate of weapon related crimes, and realize how easy it is to end up with a bullet in your chest for simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Different environments and cultures produce different types of people with different values.
>>699185087
Not op, but miracles are miracles because they cant be explained by science.
Is OP still around?
>>699185255
No but I have his blessing, so go for it,
Lucky there's no god
>>699149584
Every person in the world has the right to own guns, but your rights to own them in the USA cannot be infringed like other countries.
It's not about owning guns, it's more about whether or not your right to own them can be infringed or taken from you
>>699184531
>give examples
Quran 48:29 – “Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful amongst themselves.”
Quran 9:5 – “And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.”
“Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.”
Quran 9:73 – “O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination.” -> Refuge is hell is a euphemism for you can kill them. Duh.
Quran 47:35 – “So do not weaken and call for peace while you are superior; and Allah is with you and will never deprive you of [the reward of] your deeds.” -> This is in the context of disbelievers living amongst believers
Quran 2:106 – “We do not abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten except that We bring forth [one] better than it or similar to it. Do you not know that Allah is over all things competent?” -> Peaceful quranic verses were before Allah’s commands of slaughter, and are therefore annulled
>>699185123
But keeping a woman as slave is ok?
>>699149584
Maybe your government does not trust you to own or possess a gun. Who gives a shit.
I don't care about your country that forbids you to have or own them.
I don't care what you think about our rights to have them.
>>699185244
And they happened?
Actually, screw it.
Let's say all that shit is real.
What about the moon splitting?
Or the contradictions about what man is made of?
The embryology section too.
Islam is false desu
>>699185436
Spot on. That's the natural law spirit.
>>699152173
>>>699151679
>No, there is no reason to kill people. If someone finds happiness in a different faith or non-faith and it does not hurt his community, then he should be free to believe in this.
What if it hurts his community, in a powerful leader's butthurt sort of way?
>>699185590
Yes. Cant denie it. Islam is not against slavery.
Even in medieval times, practically all slaves(except asia), were caught by islamists. The last islamic state to abolish slavery legally(but in reality has done nothing against it and still allows it) is Mauritania, and this was in 2007 because of international sanctions.
>>699184552
I think I need to convert some muslims to a different reality.
If all these lefties weren't so tolerant of intolerant religions and cultures, we wouldn't have these stupid intolerant religions.
The economies of Muslim countries are terrible and what they do export are simply natural resources. The people themselves contribute nothing at all to the rest of us.
Considering that they sponsor and commit terrorism, but don't benefit the rest of the world, isn't it in the rational self interest of non-Muslims to get rid of them?
>>699152173
>No, there is no reason to kill people. If someone finds happiness in a different faith or non-faith and it does not hurt his community, then he should be free to believe in this.
Those who turn their back on Islam are to be executed. This is confirmed by the words and deeds of Muhammad.
Quran (4:89) - "They wish that you should reject faith as they reject faith, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of God; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper." -> God literally says kill someone when he gives up his faith in me.
>>699185590
War slave, and you must take care of them, search slavery in islam, long response.
>>699185447
First one is translation error, but because thats a bad response, Ill say that I dont know and ill look it up later.
Quran 9:5 > Literally the verse right before it.
Quran 9:73>https://discover-the-truth.com/2014/10/14/quran-973-strive-hard-against-the-unbelievers-tabuk/
Quran 47:35 > "Here, one should bear in mind the fact that when this discourse was revealed only a handful of the Muslims consisting of a couple of hundreds of the Muhajirin and Ansar living in the small town of Madinah were upholding the standard of Islam and they were not only faced by the powerful Quraish but also by the whole of pagan Arabia. Such were the conditions when they were exhorted not to show weakness and not to beg (the enemy) for peace, but to make preparations for the decisive conflict. This does not mean that the Muslims should never negotiate for peace, but it means that in a state like this it is not right to initiate peace negotiations when it shows the Muslims’ weakness, for it will still further embolden the enemy. The Muslims should first establish their superiority in power and strength; then if they negotiate peace there will be no harm."
And last one > http://www.quran-islam.org/main_topics/quran/false_accusations/abrogation_claims_(P1216).html
>>699185662
Doesnt matter what I believe, god said it happened so It happened.
Also,
> the contradictions about what man is made of?
The embryology section too.
Do elaborate.
>>699153089
>Why don't Muslim's in their home country try to get weapons and kill their extremists instead of running by the tens of thousands
They do. But both sides have guns. And if you're willing to die(which extremists often are), its pretty hard to fight them.
why do you follow a violent religion?
>>699149584
Why do you guys want us to really hate you? Do you actually realize that this sleeping bear called western civilisation used to build an entire infrastructure to exterminate a specific ethnic group because we didn't like them anymore.
Do Muslims really think that they can win a holy war against the US and Russia?
Also, how do you plan to spend the last hours of your life while the ICBMs are in flight?
The current US nuclear arsenal contains the equivalent of 500 kg of TNT for every single Muslim man, woman and child.
What's the best way to distribute the warheads to ensure that there are no more camel jockeys in the future?
>>699186703
> Doesnt matter what I believe, god said it happened so It happened.
How do you live with yourself?
>>699149584
WHY DO YOU WORSHIP BAAL AND CALL HIM GOD? WHY ARE YOUR PEOPLE SO INTOLERANT TO GAYS AND HATEFUL? ]
MINUS THE COOL HAT AND BARMITZVAHS YOUR BASICALLY 3RD RATE JEWS GO DIE AHMED EVERYONE HATES YOU
>>699188139
idk, how do you ?
Point being that religion is about obeying, not reasons, and I repeat, I have a choice in being muslim, but not in changing islam.
>I have eaten pork by accident one time. It was mediocre.
So you didnt eat bacon? Pork is mediocre. Ribs and bacon are far from mediocre.
