How do I tell if I'm a sociopath?
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How do I tell if I'm a sociopath?
>>707201368
If you're just the blood guy
If you have to ask, then you aren't one.
It would never occur to you that you are one.
If you have to ask, you're not.
Faggot.
Posts dexter...
>>707201368
Do you get your rocks off by starting drama with other humans just for the sake of it, to get your "fix"?
Or do you seek to avoid human contact entirely?
>>707201527
>>707201575
I think a sociopath would definitely question whether they can feel emotions or if they've faked them for so long to blend in they're unsure if they really have them or not.
>>707201648
I try to seclude myself constantly. It's just much better being alone. Like I don't have to pretend.
>>707201876
Then you are not a sociopath.
>>707202044
So how do I know if someone else is?
>>707201368
No emotions
If u ask ur probably not one.
Read "the psychopath next door"
>>707201368
Would you try to change if you were? The answer helps determine.
>>707202114
Overly friendly, but when you ask them about themselves the answers seem hollow or made up, or twisted with details intended to make you think more of them.
I think there is a difference between psy and soci.
>>707202236
I would try to change.
>>707202338
I heard sociopaths don't try to hide it and it's caused by trauma, where psychopaths are born like that and are very good at hiding it.
>>707202499
From my experience that statement rings true.
>>707202671
Though sociopaths may be incapable of hiding it
>>707202810
Would they feel anger?
>>707201368
Get checked by a mental doctor
Look at all these wannabe psychologists in this thread.
>>707202922
I ask because anger and humour are the only things that seem to effect me.
>>707202922
Absolutely. My last interaction with one reminded me of a caged animal, frantically trying to exert itself to get a reaction. Also, very uncomfortable being alone.
>>707203482
>Also, very uncomfortable being alone.
That's where I differ. I love being completely on my own or in a large crowd without anyone I know around me.
>>707201527
This is not true and will never be true. Its well known that they often feel fundamentally different from everyone else, but they cant ever figure out why until they go to a doctor or something.
That being said, OP is a fag.
>>707203680
Then I have good news for you friend :)
>>707201648
I fuck with people for fun. Its the only way I can release my anger and feel okay. Otherwise I just feel like a walking shell.
Youre using outdated terms. 'Sociopath' and 'Psycopath' are both the same thing. It just means you understand the difference between right and wrong but dont give two shits. You can still feel emotion such as Joy and Sorrow but you dont respond the same to emotionally intensive situaions as a 'normal person' would.
Ie: In a life and death situation you wouldnt think twice about taking the lives of innocents to help yourself. You also wouldnt lose any sleep over it if you did.
>>707203954
Which is?
>>707204065
I know for a fact I could take a life to better myself and not lose sleep because of it.
>>707204065
Theyre using outdated terms when it comes to "exact professional diagnoses and terms", but as far as research and actual understanding goes outside of the rigid DSM, there is a difference, and it gets mentioned all the fucking time. ASPD is just an umbrella diagnoses for asshole disorder.
itt: neckbeards who watched too much dexter
>>707204288
So I'm just an asshole and not a sociopath/psychopath? I honestly don't know which is worse.
>>707204455
If you would go around bragging about 'hurr durr im a badass sociopath' then youre just an asshole.
>>707201368
if you have to ask, you're not
Psychopaths are cool. Sociopaths are just closet faggots like Elliot Rodgers and Ted Bundy.
As a child I would "act out" and throw snow balls at dogs, get in fights and chase my siblings around the house with a knife. I loved playing violent sports and found that i had a talent for hitting people. Around 13-14 years old males start using words to compete with each other than getting in physical altercations. Getting into physical altercations in an upper middle class world leads into lawsuits, jail time or prison. All the aggression went inwards around age 14. Masochism became my closest friend. I was too stupid to defend myself verbally.
So then I became a "nice" quiet boy who never ever gets in trouble...
I have an 8inch cock and my iq is only average to high average.
>>707204705
lol well I don't brag. I don't interact with people enough to brag for a start, and even when I do I usually just listen and feel nothing except anger/humour. Humour comes easily to me, where anger usually takes something really big and personal to trigger me.
>>707204272
Okay, now say you decide to go Anakin Skywalker on some daycare just because you got bored. Would you lose sleep then?
I'm certainly not going to walk away from the thread taking anything posted as absolute truth...
But humor me. I feel remorse and guilt; there are times where remorse and guilt do not impede my actions or intent, no matter how strong they are. I feel emotions, but I sometimes see ways to manipulate people- for their own benefit. I have great impulse control. I would call myself meticulous to a certain degree. I regard the will of the majority. If I am feeling anything other than nominal or "okay", I can hide it well. I am, according to random strangers, pleasant to talk to and exceptionally charming (people talk to me, especially if I go somewhere to be alone).
Am I just a high-functioning psychopath? Because I would actively run over a person who wasn't supposed to be crossing the street, in exchange for not stopping abruptly and getting into a potentially fatal accident.
>>707204455
Sociopaths/psychopaths ARE assholes. They think theyre cool because of their own narcissistic delusions, but if you ask any functional human being in the world, they will tell you that all antisocials are fucking assholes. Theyre just assholes who are better at it than others.
>>707201499
Underrated post.
>>707203967
Why not be a shell on a beach?
>>707204272
You say that, but it would probably haunt you to some extent. Wondering if someone were looking for you for that.
I think that the biggest difference between the two is one seeks recompense for all the wrongs they perceive happened to them, and the other is naturally capable of original thought. Jumping to violence to feel edgy shows a lack of mental capacity.
>>707204964
I wouldn't do that, nor would I lose sleep over it if I did do that. I've never felt anything for another person except myself. Which could mean I'm an asshole or a sociopath. I've also never felt guilt and I've done some pretty bad shit.
>>707204973
I don't try to be anything other than myself.
>>707201368
easy, just admit it
>>707201368
If someone yawns in the room as you and you dont yawn shortly there after theres a good chance youre a crazy
>>707205312
I don't worry about being caught. If I've gotten away with it so far then I'll get away with it forever. And I do like getting revenge on anyone who has wronged me in any way.
>>707204965
Hehe. I like you. Everything is going to be okay.
>>707201876
>I think a sociopath would definitely question whether they can feel emotions or if they've faked them for so long to blend in they're unsure if they really have them or not.
That's cute.
>>707205694
It mainly just means you lack or have no empathy.
>>707205534
Thats fine, but if yourself is an asshole, youre still an asshole.
>>707205312
Because being a shell feels awful. It feels like youre not alive. Like youre just a robot. No one should have to feel that, but i do.
>>707205721
I guess that's what trolling is for. All hail the Internet
I got diagnosed as sociopath,ama OP
>>707205959
Exactly. I smoked a lot of weed when I was 11-16 which kept me inside, which in turn got me into computers. Before weed I got into fights constantly, stole from shops and even took a shit in my neighbour's back yard then rubbed some of it on his window as revenge for kicking my ass.
>>707205954
Does it feel awful though? I find a certain clarity in it, it allows me to focus on what I want to focus on, which include making money and playing videogames. Social interaction is fine too, just don't slip
>>707205721
Oh man, youll get caught so fast with that confidence. Have fun with that.
Not OP here. Id honestly just do what id like when i like regardless of who it affects, but i dislike being caged. I have a list of 6 people that i would have killed by now if i had some method of avoiding law enforcement.
What does this make me?
>>707206284
I'm always careful about what I do. So what I mean is, if I've gotten away with it in the act of doing it, after covering my tracks I know I'll get away with it forever.
>>707201368
The truth of sociopath is that the condition, like many mental affects, lies within a spectrum. There is no absolute set of conditions that defines someone as a sociopath because there are countless degrees of sociopothy.
https://www.ted.com/talks/jon_ronson_strange_answers_to_the_psychopath_test?language=en
>>707206452
>posting
Hope you're behind a VPN.
>>707206204
Nice, I like weed too, funny how that works. I used to steal iPods and itouches from other kids at my hs, just to get their music/incorporate their tastes. I only just got rid of them on eBay a year or so ago, good times but I do regret it.
>>707206236
Im more sociopathic than psychopathic, so its more of an unstoppable empty restlessness to me. Trauma and all that. I generally have to keep myself busy or my mind ends up wandering over to a sadistic state of mind.
The only reason it feels awful is because society wont allow me to have the release I crave. Im pretty sure id feel better if I could just go out and be violent, then come home and contribute to society. I mean, as long as I hurt a useless dreg, it should be fine. Its a shame society doesnt see it that way.
>>707206597
A VPN wouldn't be enough. And I don't post/fap to CP. I have before though. But true security lies in using someone else's WiFi from a far distance; preferably public, with a spoofed MAC address. Virtual machine (tails), and deleting all evidence afterwards then never connecting to that network again.
>>707206736
The only time I've ever felt regret is when I've been caught.
>>707206940
Are you doing that right now?
>>707207005
No. But saying you did something != doing something and leaving evidence behind.
Example: I raped princess Diana and crashed the car purposefully to kill her. I'm also responsible for 9/11.
I'm a sociopath AMA
>>707206765
https://www.hunter-ed.com/washington/studyGuide/Field-Dressing-a-Deer-Detailed-Instructions/20105001_700046905/
Really makes you think doesn't it?
>>707206940
Yeah, me too. Because I let someone else in on it unfortunately. Got a pretty big rush off it, felt on top of the world.
>>707207396
Tits or GTFO?
>>707207402
The rush is what made me do it in the first place.
>>707207402
>https://www.hunter-ed.com/washington/studyGuide/Field-Dressing-a-Deer-Detailed-Instructions/20105001_700046905/
Dont be a dick. Ive been avoiding those sorts of thoughts for a long time, and ive slowly gotten better after lots of therapy. I found value in being a good person, and although i still have a burning hatred for the rest of society and its petty individuals, I dont want to be like that any more.
It certainly does make you think though.
>>707207163
Well, okay, but those examples are a bit of a hyperbole.
We can start small, and observe that you're posting in a thread about Sociopathy, and outlining a basic self-diagnostic of how your mind functions- and admitting that, if you ever were to commit an action that society deemed unfavorable, you would not regret such a deed. If you claim to be meticulous in how you operate, this allows for a plausible, if not guaranteed, example, that shows you probably do things that would cause you to feel awful if someone knew you did them. Things that are probably very taboo.
But, that's just all speculation. And, you did say it all, and there's no real proof that you've done or do what you said. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Still. How do you think people get singled out in society? Evidence first?
>>707206765
I feel you Anon... Eliminate those who have zero chance of contributing. They just take up space.
If you need to ask, it's actually just autism.
>>707203267
Sounds like something a wannabe psychologist would say.
>>707208110
Like you said, only a fool would take things posted here as facts. I try to be normal in society.
>>707201368
If you were one you wouldn't care enough to ask on 4chan or even be aware of it
>>707208248
I've also questioned whether I have autism or not; seeing as I'm terrible socially and can usually only focus on 1-2 tasks at once before things become confusing. I'm also great at mathematics and sciences.
>>707201368
There's no such thing sociopaths. The idea comes from a flawed study in the 50's that, after decades of better research, resulted in the addition of Antisocial Personality Disorder to the DSM.
Sociopaths and psychopaths are monsters portrayed on TV shows. They have no conscience. They have no emotions. They are extremely violent. They are boogeyman.
ASPD patients have a diminished ability to understand social norms and difficulty regulating their own emotions. They tend to commit lots of petty crimes, but are no more violent than the general population.
>>707208486
So many people believe that's true.
And, according to experts, they're all wrong.
>>707207908
Haha that's not what I meant man. What I meant was, some humans are hunters, while others are gatherers. There is an outlet, hunting for sport is a very common and natural thing. You might like the country too, I know I do.
>>707206765
All of this autism would be over if you just take up boxing and get good at it. You violent impulses are perfectly normal for a young male. Most just beat each other up until they grow up, and some never grow up.
>>707208533
like sociopathy, autism is a spectrum disorder. I was diagnosed in middle school, and have struggled greatly to overcome its hindrances. As a result, I don't land within the diagnosable spectrum anymore. This is not too uncommon.
>>707201368
the fact that you ask this questions means you are not a sociopath
>>707208875
>>707209038
So we've reduced this down to me being an autistic asshole?
>>707208632
This, not sure where all these fucktards come up with this shit. They seem to think ASPD is some on off disorder that is either full blast or non-existent even though every other disorder varies and has spectrum. They seem to think sociopaths are fucking robots with no ability to do simple comparisons of themselves to others, which is ridiculous.
I would say it is even better considering they can rarely analyze most of the population with ASPD cause they never voluntarily go through therapy and if they do, they play games and generally try to hide the truth. They only ones they really get to study are the criminals that got caught in some major crime with nothing to lose by telling the truth.
>>707209764
>The only ones they really get to study are the criminals that got caught in some major crime with nothing to lose by telling the truth.
That hits close to home. I've thought about seeing a psychiatrist but I've just never wanted to. I know I would lie a lot and cover up the truth naturally, even if I don't actually want to. But I think if I can just be completely honest with one it would help me.
>>707209764
Except for Bipolar PD, personality disorders are the biggest mystery in psychology because people with them rarely see themselves as mentally ill and gain little benefit from talk therapy, so a tiny segment of the population is rarely even seen by the only people educated enough to diagnose them.
>>707210158
Try writing a letter in advance of scheduling your appointment. It is often easier to be honest in writing, especially when there's no intended recipient yet.
>>707201368
In that show, deb dies, Maria dies, Harrison and dexs girlfriend rub off to Argentina and dexter ends up as a logger in North Dakota. I just saved you all 8 seasons of bad acting.
>>707210421
Exactly. That's why I posted here. Accordingly you're 25% more likely to be honest in an email than in person, and I think that's because you're given much more time to think about what you're saying. We all want to be honest with ourselves.
>>707210158
They won't help, they pretty much just cut you off once they figure it out or they will treat you like a lab animal. You will be nothing more than a curiosity to them. When you were young, I am sure you got the look after you said some truth, the complete look of horror as they see you as not a person, but an evil creature. That is when I quickly learned to fake sympathy.
>>707202338
>>707204973
>>707205954
>>707206115
>>707206562
>>707207396
Not true at all
>>707202499
>>707202671
>>707204065
>>707204897
>>707205312
>>707206765
Sociopathy and psychopathy are interchangeable terms colloquially and neither is used in clinic psychology, except as very broad umbrella terms for sets of symptoms.
>>707210668
I was forced to see a psychiatrist when I was 13 and that feels accurate. But it can't harm to try being completely open with one.
>>707204965
No psychopaths dont feel guilt or feel at least veryyy reduced form of it that's what enables their actions. You just have good social skills
>>707205534
u cld be then kudos
>>707201648
So much cringe. Egelords everywhere kys
>>707210971
Call me paranoid, but them knowing or having some record of such may put you on some list.
>>707211468
I feel so lost within myself that I'd rather be on some list and know myself than continue being lost.
>>707211468
This is 100% true. Any employer serious enough about their fact-checking would find out if you have a disorder.
>>707204065
dead wrong
>>707211678
They don't have access to information like that in the UK unless it is correlated to a crime.
>>707211608
I don't know, I have spent most of my life making sure people don't know or at least only have a slight inkling. I have been called cold and sociopathic more than a few times and have been questioned, but I can usually work that thought out of them quickly enough if I care or just not talk to them again if they aren't worth the effort.
>>707211678
The patient privacy laws in the US are extremely stringent. Your doctor can't tell other doctors about your diagnosis without your explicit written permission unless they both work in the same facility in the same field and have a compelling operational reason to share information internally.
The only other reason a doctor can disclose your diagnosis is if in their professional opinion you are an imminent, immediate threat to yourself and others. If they do that and are wrong in their judgement, then they can be permanently forbidden from practicing medicine ever again.
You are completely safe seeing a psychologist or psychiatrist for any reason, unless you have a legitimate need to be hospitalized. Even then, the worst case scenario is you are hospitalized because you need it. Mistakes happen, but the system is designed to protect patients first and foremost.
>>707211902
I've been called a sociopath as well. Even by my own mother. It's just that I don't care as much about people finding out than I do about truly knowing myself. As long as I know myself, nothing else matters.
>>707210907
>>707206562
You say not true, but then agreed with me.
I called it sociopathy in reference to the OPs topic, and gave a link on psychopathy as a reference. How is that not using them interchangeably? And since when are we in a clinic?
>>707212242
It causes issues, just warning you. If people don't have your trust, you can't make it in life. Whatever your goals are, they get ruined if people find out, even if they are benign. There isn't really "knowing yourself" beyond just your thoughts. You are whatever you are, having some overpaid pseudoscientist regurgitate horseshit someone else told them based on faulty research won't be helpful.
>>707212278
I meant to say "clinical psychology", meaning as diagnostic terms. Professionals do not diagnose people with sociopathy or psychopathy, except for a couple of guys who sell psycho tests to lawyers for profit.
Sociopathy is basically just the state of having no fucks left to give.
Internet sociopathy is usually just some other disorder, autism being one of them.
>>707212768
In my opinion, you have two large misconceptions. First, not all of the research is bullshit. Second, the goal isn't for someone to tell you who you are, it's for someone to help you understand yourself better.
>>707212768
Yeah I guess you're right. We're all alone. None of us could ever really know another human being. The only person I ever actually cared about and trusted betrayed me. We will walk through life never experiencing love or faith, not because we're sociopaths, but because neither exist.
Perhaps in another life things will be clearer to our simple minds and we will be able to truly understand one another.
>>707212768
>If people don't have your trust, you can't make it in life. Whatever your goals are, they get ruined if people find out, even if they are benign.
>tfw people shit on you maliciously just because they can't relate to you
>tfw when "moral" people say you're a monster because they don't feel empathy for yo
>tfw when politicians say people like you should never have been born
>tfw you have never committed a crime and statistically people like you don't.
>>707213419
You might be surprised how many conditions fall in line with that assessment. You also might find you don't like the company.
>>707213074
Poor sample size, only one part of the population, ie extreme criminals willing to go through with the analyzation and be at least reasonably honest. They know there are lots more on that spectrum, they just don't get to do any real research into them. This causes the research they have to produce a diagnosis that is missing a considerable sum of the population they are trying to categorize, this is why the ASPD definitions are retardedly rigid and unrealistic to the majority of the population with said disorder, which is why the only portrayal of them is as blood thirsty maniacs.
Understanding yourself is done through introspection and just maturing really. You accept what you are and learn to deal with any perceived or real issues that may come up. That is standard for anyone.
>>707213388
>>707213419
You can still build real relationships, it just won't be based on the same criteria as others. I have very long term friendships. I respect them as people and I actually like that they are so capable of sympathy, it is interesting to see and try to relate too even a little. It also helps you mimic, at least if you mimic it some, you can have similar relationships, which is important. They may start to realize you aren't completely what you seem, but they seem not to mind as long as you aren't out there trying to destroy them or take advantage. It is helpful to have friends. I would say I care about them at least to whatever extent I am capable of.
>>707213917
>Understanding yourself is done through introspection and just maturing really.
What's standard doesn't work for everyone. People end up being diagnosed and seeing professional help when their condition causes them distress and they are unable to understand it or cope with it themselves. I think it's wrong to completely discount such things.
>>707213917
>>707213562
Thanks. I'm good, guys. I was diagnosed over 10 years ago. It was a good thing for me, because it helped to understand how I am different from other people and why I feel this way in social relations.
I do have two friends and generally avoid everyone else in non-professional settings. My life may not be much, but I carved out a place for myself in the universe.
I just wish I could have carved it out on Mars.
>>707214307
I have yet to hear any real success stories from therapy for anyone with a real disorder. Usually just slightly dumb, non-introspective people who have a small problem and need someone else to spoon feed them something they could have realized through simple analyzing of the situation/self.
>>707213419
Are you aware that everything you just wrote also applies to pedophilia?
>>707214649
We've encountered very different people then.
you're not a sociopath. you're probably in your teens still. you're just another jaded braindead faggot from the internet generation.
>>707214830
You jumped on that train pretty fast.
Where's the resentment coming from?
>>707214948
because I was just like you when I was younger and I hate myself for it now.
>>707214812
Doubtful, you probably just fall for their bullshit easier.
>>707215102
Not the person you're replying to. Therapy can help people it usually takes a lot of time and a lot of work though. Most people do not bother doing the work.
>>707214736
Pedophilia is way overrated. It's definitely not as evil as everyone says it is; objectively it's just a penis in a hole. It's when the pedo actively tries to hurt/ignores the child's pain that's the problem.
Huge fucking witch hunt. Can't say I approve of diddling kids, but the treatment of pedophiles is a lot worse. Should be nothing more than a 3 year sentence unless a lot of pain was involved, and then we should let the pedo enjoy life.
>>707214736
I am aware that pedophiles, like the mentally ill and the homeless, are a persecuted group in every country in the world.
Just because people shit on child molesters, doesn't mean everyone they shit on deserves what they get.
That's why I think everyone is so terrible. It's about making sure whoever we think is a bad guy gets what we dream they deserve.
>>707215037
Fucking kek.
It's common when you can't fight back as a teen to harden up just a little too much for a while.
>>707215432
Edgy
>>707215684
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
>>707215037
>like you
You're nothing like me. I don't mean that in an edgy way. I mean that you assume things about people and make callous statements. For instance, you just assumed I was OP. You also assumed OPs current circumstances. That attitude has always bothered me.
At the same time though, there was anger in your comment. I was trying to figure out if it was self directed or not. Thanks for clearing that up.
>>707214948
But there wasn't any resentment there. That's your knee jerk reaction to try to turn the tables when you felt someone calling you out.
>>707216094
Apparently it's common today: >>707216057
>>707216057
But those are all reasonable assumptions. And you make similar assumptions.
>>707216281
Do I?
>I hate myself for it now
seems pretty clear
I'm not trying to shit on anyone, or point fingers. You (presumably) described something you did in your past that you look back on and regret. And I've just told you about the same thing in my past. It hurts me to see people act with harsh judgement before actually knowing anything.
>>707216502
You just did all the things you said you weren't trying to do. So you did them all without trying.
>>707217007
If that's true, then I apologize.
Take it as a sign of the difficulty involved in understanding anyone's situation, especially in an anonymous format.
I don't know too, I think I have autism or sociopathy.
>>707215390
Ah yes, the perpetual "you are here forever" type of help mixed with some sort of meds to numb you. Keep them on the hook with how it takes time and forever just needs a few more sessions, etc. It is unending and unless their problem was simplistic, the meds are the part that do the actual helping, ie numb them.
>>707215102
I'm not sure what makes you so certain, but I can only assume its personal experience. I had some of that too, dealing with my own issues. Not simple issues. I eventually came to the same conclusion as you, and decided I was much more capable of helping myself. I tried to push that view on friends, and despite my best efforts and intentions, it destroyed them. Sometimes people really do need professional help.
>>707218216
Doubtful and probably are not words of certainty, you should get out your dictionary. Your statements assume that psychotherapy would have led to a different outcome, but you have no proof of this cause it would be impossible to test.
What we do know for a fact is no mental illness is actual curable at this point and all they do is medicate to try to even them out, usually just with some sort of mental numbing. They don't completely understand the illness or the pills they use to "cure". If those people you speak of were seriously mentally ill, that would have been the outcome, usually followed by suicide from the meds or a relapse when they stop using them cause they change your entire being in a very negative way.
>>707201368
Check basement.
If bodies
yes
>>707201368
if you care, you're not one
>>707218727
Do dead insect bodies count?
>>707201368
<----
Well, doing this to a girl is the only way I can get turned on. If they're not at least gagged during sex, I struggle to get anything from it.
Am I a sociopath?
>>707218843
In the future that may be mistaken for a food storage area
My prefered sickness are sociopath psychopath schizophrenia psychosis nevrosis and psychiatrist
>>707218627
Interesting. I'm actually of the opposite opinion. I think drugs usually do more harm than good. I've seen a lot more success stories in the realms of cognitive behavior therapy. It's essentially what I've used to help myself as well.
These fucking threads... Jesus christ.
Feeling like a sociopath? Get a girlfriend, a social life and sign up for boxing on the weekend to take care of your violent urges. Give it a year and you'll be normal. If you're autistic, it may take a little longer. Problem solved, you can shut up now.
Clinically, you need to have a lack of empathy.
>>707219219
That isn't an opposite opinion, as I stated, the meds usually lead to suicide or at least a worse life in general than just dealing with shit.
>>707204973
>all antisocials are fucking assholes
socially dependent nigger detected
>>707218965
It's normal.
Women often enjoy being abused sexually. Nothing wrong with that.
>>707201876
OP not a sociopath but is a massive FAG
>>707219436
Thanks anon. I had no intention of stopping :)
It kinda gives me a kick knowing I have a roll of duct tape and ball gag in the drawer next to my bed at all times
>>707219423
You also said
>all they do is medicate to try to even them out
Sorry I'm having a hard time understand you. Again, my experiences differ. I know there are people who try to fix problems with pills, but of the people I've encountered, they're not the majority.
if you're posting abuot it, hoping you are, then you most definitely are not.
>>707219791
See >>707208486 and >>707208632
You might also consider reading threads before replying to them.
>>707201368
If you brows /b/ on a regular basis. Chances are most of us are fucked in the head, so I wouldn't be surprised of a large proportion of us are sociopaths, psychopaths, autistic, schizophrenic, have personality disorders or just plain lack empathy.
>>707219943
>i just want to be a sociopath
>nah nah nah nah nah
you're helping your case bud. you're just a whiny little spoiled bitch, not a sociopath.
>>707219786
The majority of psychotherapy for any diagnosible mental illness will include meds, this is just a reality in the western world. Maybe you live elsewhere, but this is a US website and it is assumed we are talking about US scenarios.
>>707201368
When you're a politician
>>707220082
I'm not OP.
I'm: >>707208875 and a ton of other posts mostly concerned with fact checking and understanding people in the thread.
I also wrote: >>707216057
>>707208875
how long ago was this diagnosis exactly?
>>707220143
I live in California. My mother is a doctor. I saw specialists directly, and was able to choose my practitioners carefully. I'm not in a typical situation, that's why I'm trying to understand yours.
>>707201527
Every sociopath knows that every sociopath knows. It's you plebs we have to emulate who don't. Like I'm gonna walk 'round telling people I'm a sociopath? Y'all are scared.
not trying to be edgy, but I've struggled with this problem for a while.
I'm in my mid 30s, decent job. Been estranged from family for about 10 years. No support network.
I sometimes have intrusive thoughts of murdering random people I see on the street. Very detailed. I laugh it off and joke with my friends (I was always the 'creative' one so no one is shocked and think it's funny).
However, when I drink (a recent habit, actually) - I start putting together detailed plans and scenarios of how to get away with murdering someone, and the drunker I get, the more I am inclined to act on it. Sober me looks back and laughs the next morning, and I usually tear up or burn my "plans".
Afraid to tell a medical professional for fear I could be red flagged (I have a decently cushy gov't job).
>>707220445
12 years ago. I'm 25.
>>707220454
anti-social does not mean un-social you colossal faggot
>>707220454
An introvert.
Start wanting to hurt people and you'll be considered anti-social.
You can't feel any true emotion anymore. You've been desensitised to everything, a relative dying doesn't make you sad, an animal getting abused doesn't make you react. You pretty much become dead inside, incapable of feeling any emotion. It may look 'cool' or 'edgy' but really it fucking sucks. I wish I could feel true happiness like I used to. I'm nothing but a void filled with depression and repressed thoughts now. Being a sociopath is a mental disease, but it's incurable.
>>707220619
Man, that sucks. If you don't mind my asking, why the change in drinking habits?
>>707220745
ant-social, just at its base, is not being compelled to follow society's "rules".
they are usually the most fun to hang out with. they will talk about anything, nothing is taboo. they question everything andyes, they aren't hindred by guilt or remorse just because society says something is wrong.
now how that varies and the depths of it is where you can get in some serious trouble.
>>707220509
So you are in an extremely strange position that most people who seek psychotherapy will not be in. Your experiences will not mimic the majority of the country as they will just have to go to someone that is in their network/free and they could live in any podunk area and have very little choice. You live a completely different life from them and you come from a family of means, not the usual brokedick background that you get where they pump them full of meds and just suck insurance dry.
>>707220619
Most certainly will get you flagged and likely watched/involuntarily imprisoned in a hospital as a threat.
I am around the same age, similar thoughts of course, I have a fairly good job and I don't act on anything cause I am pretty comfortable. You just have to teach yourself to think about what you could lose if you act and keep quiet. May have to cut back on the drinking as well.
>>707220652
>>707220745
But I thought introverts get drained from social interactions? They can give me energy and good feels, but I steer clear and stay isolated if I have the choice.
>>707221028
Speaking from personal experience?
>>707201499
Although very scarce, I had thoughts at moments where I was wielding knives, of stabbing the person near me, more so If their back are facing me. It's fucked up, and I just want o to think it's nothing more than a thought, but I would never tell that to anyone ever, not a therapist, not a friend, nobody.
Has this ever happened to any of you guys?
>>707220919
You don't become a sociopath.
You're probably just depressed.
>>707221128
introversion and extroversion are nothing so cut and clear. Many people don't fit neatly in either category. When you talk about wanting to be alone though, that's introversion. It's nothing like being anti-social.
>>707220919
You are describing depression. People with ASPD still have emotions, stop watching movies and using that as your litmus test for it. In fact, they usually have extreme emotions, especially anger.
>>707221226
I was like this since the age of 10. I'm not depressed, I laugh, I can talk to people, I have no signs of depression on me. I went to a psychologist to diagnose me, and he diagnosed me with anxiety, no signs of depression. I prefer being alone in my room and I can't really feel anything no matter how hard I try to. Maybe I'm depressed, but I really doubt it. I'm a sociopath at heart, it's the only condition which perfectly describes me.
>>707221292
I see. Thanks for clarifying anon.
So guess I'm a mutt or some shit.
>>707201368
If you don't have any emotional reaction to extreme violence, and further, enjoy it. This is a sociopathic tendency. Enjoy inflicting pain? Sociopath. Lie without regret? And find no empathy for others no matter what. If you answered yes to these, your a sociopath. Welcome to the ranks.
>>707220992
Just recently started doing it. Never really drank heavily before.
>>707221481
As I said here, I went to a psychologist and was never diagnosed with depression. >>707221497 I do have anger management issues and take lorazepam and haloperidol to be able to relax.
>>707221623
You may not be aware of this, but doctors are capable of misdiagnosis. Much like any practitioner of anything, they can make mistakes. The fact that you got diagnosed with anxiety only sounds like you have portions of depression, just don't realize it.
>muh infallible doctors
>>707221121
For the most part that is correct. I mean, my parents certainly have money. They don't really know how to use it, because they abandoned their families and rose from the lowest levels of poverty together. They're also terrified of the corrupting nature of money, so raised me as if I was poor, in all circumstances except medical. It's put me in a strange place where I can't identify with anyone fully. Being autistic doesn't help either.
But even so, if there was the option of seeing the sorts of people I've seen, do you think your position would be any different?
>>707221792
Maybe, but I truly believe I'm not depressed. I don't feel like shit, nor do I feel like killing myself, I just feel dead inside. Like my body is incapable of feeling any true emotion. Maybe I'm not a sociopath but I'm 100% sure I'm not depressed. I trust a team of doctors who studied me up close for 1 week inside a mental institution more than a random anon on /b/.
>>707221792
They get it wrong more out of caution sometimes as well. They have to take you at your word, and it leads to bad diagnosis.
>>707221028
i know that sounds a lot like /b but they don't give a fuck who sees them. they aren't just pretending to be big boys no an anonymous website. it permeates into every part of their lives.
>>707221121
I don't think I could REALLY do it though. I have deep emotions and am a pretty big bleeding heart. If I'm exploring my own psyche, I'd probably say it has something to do with family estrangement.
The first person I ever fixated on mentally with the murder scenario was my brother, whom my parents gave way more opportunities to, even taking possessions and property that were intended for me, and giving to him, leading me to literally become homeless years ago.
>>707222222
dem digits
>>707222222
checked
>>707222222
WOO BABY
>>707221145
i've known a few, sure
i live in NYC which is where a lot of anti-social people end up. they can't cope with small town bullshit, judging and expecting yuo to go along with their moral set
>>707222222
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
>>707222222
holy shit
>>707222222
check em
>>707222222
People care more about your digits than feelings. Fucking whores.
>>707221961
I certainly accept that it may be possible to help some, but extreme mental illness currently has no cure currently, this is why meds just get passed around.
>>707221986
As stated, ASPD doesn't mean no emotions, this is ridiculous. Extreme rage is a large part of it, along with being impulsive.
>>707222222
Checked. I guess that is the difference then, I was extremely impulsive and prone to violence in my youth and have always been lacking in sympathy, but I have calmed down now that I have things I like that I am not willing to risk losing at this point. I guess that could change if I ever lost things. I fine balance I guess.
>>707222222
mo' fucking checkity check checked my home negro dolby surround 7.1
step up your home plantation
>>707222651
welcum to channel 4
The #1 way to become a better person and to get in touch with your feelings again is to get a respectable girlfriend and talk to women.
Look at the middle east and their barbaric society. I am actually inclined to believe that it's their treatment of women as worthless beasts of burden that makes them violent. Women make men better people, it's one of their main roles in society along with giving birth and raising children.
>>707222666
>As stated, ASPD doesn't mean no emotions, this is ridiculous. Extreme rage is a large part of it, along with being impulsive.
I am impulsive, I have anger management issues and take meds for it. I don't feel any emotions in any social situation, nor do I really feel remorse when I see people getting hurt.
>>707222222
Yeah baby you got hexes. 6x2. That was great
>>707222222
checked
>>707222891
I may also be bipolar though, my psychologist never gave me a clear diagnosis, all she did was tell me I have extreme anxiety and anger management issues.
>>707222666
Check'd satan
>>707222348
>>707222352
>>707222468
>>707222487
>>707222609
>>707222616
>>707222651
>>707222666
>>707222681
>>707222893
>>707222941
Calm down you fucking newfags. So obvious you're all newfags as oldfags like myself have seen plenty of gets like that. Fucking newfaggots...
>>707222222
MOOOOODS
>>707222222
you also have a pretty big get anon.
checked.
>>707222222
CHECKED
>>707222666
Yeah, don't get me wrong, I'm plenty familiar with the nature of incurable diseases and their treatment. I've got one myself, which creates lesions in my brain. It's not a mental disorder, but it causes them. Since I moved out on my own, my parents have begged me to see help, but it seems pointless to me.
Still, for those who it causes distress and who are unable to cope on their own, I recommend treatments like CBT.
>>707222666
checked
>>707222222
>>707223043
B8, but I've seen much better gets in my days as well
>>707222222
Mein nigger
>>707222222
Ayyy
>>707222222
fuge
>>707223043
>"Calm down you fucking newfags"
>"oldfags as myself"
>>707223161
I did this for PTSD. Very effective. Better than mess.
>>707202499
>a psychopath and a sociopath are the exact same thing
>you're a fucking idiot
>>707222222
Wow consecutive digits ,
What next world peace ? Cure cancer? Jeez
>>707223380
Meds. Spellcheck.
>>707223043
<oldfags as myself
<i've been here since 2002 faggot kys hisssss
>>707223375
Ego is useful. Sometimes.
>>707223043
>newfags
i've been here since summer kill yourself
>>707222891
Sounds like meds just numbing you then bud.
>>707223393
IDK why. But kek.
>>707222222
w0t
I've lied to people, stolen, have been in trouble with the law, lie about how I feel during relationship romantic or otherwise just to get the reaction I want from people; I've been called manipulative and feel nothing when I hurt someone even if they're family. Though I know I'm not a sociopath, I'm just an asshole.
If you are bothered by the thought you are a sociopath, you aren't really a sociopath. If it makes you feel good, you aren't really a sociopath. If you just don't give a shit, you might be. Or you might just be depressed, stupid and/or making excuses for your shit decision making.
You might not care about hurting people.
but if you WANT to then you're probably not a sociopath. or at least there is another problem on top of being a sociopath
>>707223767
They are the exact same thing. The only difference is what term they used in older DSM's, you nitwit
>>707223767
yeah they really are faggot. there is no difference. one is a law term that's been substituted.
>>707221158
it happened a lot to me in my childhood, but i always thought it was normal
