ITT shit isis does.
sup /b/ im having a conversation with a friend and he wont belive me how fucked up islam is.
so show this naive nigga som videos of the more "creative" things isis has been up to over the last few years
I'll one-up you. Is there such a thing as a moderate muslim?
it's not about religion with these terrorist groups.
it's about violent culture providing its reasoning with religious arguments, abusing the huge effect religion has on uneducated people.
even the most uneducated fuck in the west can't imagine how much more easily mislead he would be if he hadn't received that tiny bit of western quality education.
I wonder how many ISIS terrorists are here. I wonder how many are inspired to join because of seeing this shit. I wonder how many people have been killed because of the idiots who idolize these videos. I wonder how many crimes have been committed by the bastards who get off on this. I wonder how many videos are in on your computer. I wonder when you will be judged for this.
come visit bs philosophy and religion chat.
Their camera man fancies himself a proper film maker. You can tell he thinks that he's really talented and artistic. Probably from a rich family and formally trained in Western universities, the cunt.
I suspect it is something more personal. Nobody gets damaged by thinking about violence far away unless someone they cared about was a victim. Maybe you are from some traumatic home life. I don't know. You know. That is all that matters. You might pretend it isn't there, but you know.
A divided populace is easier to conquer than a united front. They want us bitching about PC labels and turning on each other.
Do you think any ISIS militants sit around asking themselves, "well MODERATE AMERICANS do exist, why should we punish all Americans?"
They don't. They all have the same purpose, to kill Westerners. They don't mince words about which ones to kill. ALL of them.
When we fight about moderates, we're doing exactly what they want us to do because we're not taking any action to stop them. We're dogcussing each other for being racists and sitting on our asses waiting for them to do it again.
leave your first simester psych training at home kid, you suck at it
Ex-Muslim here. Nigga the way to show fucked up Islam is isn't by showing shit isis does because then he'll say the age old "They don't represent real Muslims". You have to show him violent verses from the Quran and they aren't that hard to find.
scared to admit it? Your daddy stuck it in you, or mommy spanked you too hard, or girlfriend dumped you for your cousin. I don't care what it was. You chose to become this sick bastard. It isn't normal to like this sick shit and you know it.
You have a point, but unfortunately the world simply isn't that idealistic and it likely never will be. People will not set aside their beliefs for the greater good of everybody around them, but rather, only for themselves.
My point was that the very essence of what the US government is, and has been for a while now, is the result of an ever-growing left wing movement. It has resulted in the creation of ISIS and other similar groups. Government intervention has not only created enemies in foreign countries, but enemies in their home country too.
Hindsight is a great thing. Left wingers are left regretting the decisions of their country in the past, full-well knowing that much of their influence has created more harm than peace. Yet, they don't use that knowledge to change their actions in the future. So perhaps, at some point, they will.
No no no, those verses are all old and antiquated. Didn't you hear the imams? Moderates follow a different Quran apparently. One where all those violent phrases were taken out supposedly.
>tfw Mateen's father condemned his sons actions not because they were fucked up
>but because GOD was supposed to punish the homosexuals
>it wasn't his sons place
The ideology didn't change from extremist son to moderate father, the homosexuals still had to be punished. But now I'm racist apparently.
He's an edgy tween on the internet.
Being edgy is the new cruise control for cool.
Dont waste your breath on them.
Popular theory is that they were trained by western people in the art of video and other things.
The victims don't run away because they are forced to live through a bunch of mock executions until they just don't give a shit anymore.
There is a behind the scenes vid of ISIS that shows them doing the mock executions. BUt I don't have right now.
>And I never understand why the people being executed don't run away. Someone explain, please?
They are modern day cavemen that think there are 72 virgins awaiting them once they die.
Those who keep folders of this shit on their computers do so because they enjoy gore. This isn't normal. They don't do it to document atrocities. They do it because to some degree they are messed up. I am not suggesting they are evil like the terrorists, but they arent completely right in the head and sharinbg this shite and laughing about it does nothing to stop it. If anything it encourages it
>everything bad that happens in other countries
>its always the big bad US fault
This is exactly the problem. You cannot blame someone else for your own shit actions. Everyone in the US admits that the Iraq War was a mistake, and we admit that giving militants guns to fight extremists was bad too. But all we did was hand them an item. We didn't force their hand to continue using them once we left their country. No one forced them to start killing each other and no one forced them to do what they're doing now. There is such a thing as free will, and saying it's all another nations fault is just dodging the responsibility of your own actions. Or your own inaction, since now the entire Middle East is fleeing from countries they themselves fucked up by refusing to work together after we left.
When you fuck up your own country by adopting Shariah law, it's no ones fault but your own. We got involved later, but this infighting has been going on for centuries now. Since the inception of the religion itself.
I get your point. I just saved them in case I ever need them.
I also think it's important to make the videos available to a large segment of the population.
I'm not saying people should be forced to watch them, but if you want to discuss the content and concept of the videos online, you should be free to do so.
Since they do seem to raise a lot of questions, e.g. authenticity, style, technology etc.
Look how horrible isis is....(4chan user) i bet you fuckers would rape a little 10 year old girl if you had the opportunity...moms spaghetti stupid faggots ihr scheiss hurensöhne fickt euch alle....
Well, it's not like the US military left a function state that would support a moderate lifestyle for it's population.
AFAIK most of the member are disillusioned young men that didn't get a job or chance to work after the war and decided to go pillaging.
I'm not solely blaming the US, but claiming that they would've started killing themselves no matter what seems ignorant.
No, it's not.
We have to stop comparing Islam to Christianity. Its apples to oranges. Nothing about shariah law is comparable to Christian values. In fact, in christianity, there is a concept known as "turning the other cheek", i.e. the EXACT OPPOSITE of "an eye for an eye". It preaches forgiveness, not revenge. And thats the key difference between the two ideologies and thus the two cultures themselves.
Our bible doesn't flat out say, "homosexuals are bad" either. It's our INTERPRETATION of its verses. The Quran FLAT OUT SAYS "kill nonbelievers" and "fuck 9 year olds". It's not open for interpretation, it's there in black and white.
Mmhmm, we have extremists too. We call them Westboro Baptist Church. And the MODERATES of Christianity CONDEMN the actions of Westboro and ACTIVELY try to stop them from spreading hate at rallies and funerals. Moderate muslims?
"WE EXIST." And nothing else.
I agree. Not all who save them are reveling in the violence. Once, my young daughter was given a video of a couple russians beating a homeless man to death. You may have seen it. My young daughter wasnt ready to see that kind of sick stuff and it infuriated me that the friends had given it to her as some sort of sick joke. There bshould be some people keeping this stuff, but for the right reasons, not as a joke or turn on
Considering that most of the population couldn't read the book until very recently. The interpretation of the words is far more important.
I see what you mean by apples and oranges.
But I'd wager my entire fortune that Islam is just as diverse as Christianity when it comes to the interpretations of their writings.
Just because the book has some unsavory statements does not mean any and all Muslims are evil.
I'm not claiming anything. They WERE killing themselves until we showed up in the early 90s fucking with them about their oil. That was the beginning of our involvement over there, 30 years ago. Now try me when an entire region has been warring since the Shia Sunni divide 1400 years ago. Are we at fault for that too?
I'm not blaming the US for everything, but they are to blame for a lot of the world's issues. Similarly to the British Empire - when a superpower begins to treat everything around them like shit and becomes overconfident in itself, there will ALWAYS be those that wish to pull the foundations from beneath their feet.
If the US does not change, it will happen. It has always happened throughout history, and the US is no exception. This is simply the beginning.
You cannot deny that the US has decimated several areas, has very little regard for those that have differing opinions unless there is something in it for them, fuels anger, and destabilises world economies in it's favour.
Yeah, it's a delicate situation especially since you can/could trip over it on facebook. That seems questionable, I agree.
Well considering that before the 90' it was a place to fight proxy cold war, it's not surprising.
> Shia Sunni Divide
Do you recall Martin Luther? How about that english king that made up his own religion?
The situation with the two popes?
It's not really unique, is it?
You can't destabilize something that wasn't stable to begin with. I can't believe people don't see the irony in this logic. It was fucked up when we got there and we did fucked up things sure, but when we left you had the perfect opportunity to rebuild anew and in better condition, and instead you just let extremists take over and start killing people. How is that shit decision our fault? Trying to force democracy onto a nation foreign to the concept was a bad idea, but we did leave. Albeit too recently in my mind, but we're out now. You were given this wonderful opportunity to make something of yourselves, to become better than the infighting and instead, we get "DEATH TO AMERICA FOR FUCKING UP SOMETHING THAT WAS FUCKED UP TO BEGIN WITH".
Shit doesn't make sense and it never has.
It becomes apples to oranges when Protestants and Catholics aren't murdering each other and burning each others children in acid.
Key difference there. One which everyone seems to ignore.
You realise it's possible to make things much worse than they already are, even if they're already pretty bad, right?
The point is that in the previous situation, there was nobody at fault but themselves, thus the enemy (and target) was themselves. However, with the US intervening and making the situation worse, they made themselves a target, and rightly so.
I wonder why that is, maybe because over time we became more and more secular and gave less and less shit about religion and more about education.
> what was a century ago
I know I know, but do people really not make the connection between low education, religious fanaticism and that behavior?
It's like all of the Western States are looking a couple centuries in the past and go
> Well, I have no idea why that is, that certainly never happened when we were overly religious and led by fanatics
>the enemy and target was themselves
We got involved when muslims started talking about nukes. That's no longer JUST your problem. That becomes EVERYONES fucking problem. And I'm sorry your government didn't see that, but we only JUST reached an agreement with Iran what, 2 years ago? An entire region can't threaten the entire globe with a possible nuclear winter and then expect no one to do anything about it. You guys pissed each other off SO MUCH that the rest of the world was in danger from YOUR OWN infighting. It's not about you anymore, and that's your fault.
When we were overly religious and led by fanatics, we cut the fanatics heads off and started telling each other, "maybe we should cool it with the religion stuff". And we did, and now we don't murder each other and kill our babies or expel others of different faiths from living in our countries.
>we STOPPED doing that because we thought it was wrong
>you "admit" it was wrong and continue to do it anyways
>b-but christians do it too
>a long ass time ago and we stopped
You mean the Cold War? That we resolved 40 years ago? With a country that's now one of our greatest allies?
Yeah, top notch comparison. We squashed a beef, and Russia isn't sitting there killing Americans and cutting peoples heads off because of it.
those freaks are wierd in general check that
So you're denying that the US may have, you know, overreached on their goal a little bit? If you really think nukes were the reason and there was no ulterior motive, I would say you are quite naive. The US wanted a reason, and the laughable suggestion that there may be nukes in the equation, provided that reason.
Also, I'm not sure why you're referring to me as 'them', I'm English. I don't support ISIS or big government, especially the US who constantly step on people's toes.
Some muslim nuke in New York would be the best thing ever. A bunch of niggers, kikes, bankers and arrogant cunts get wiped out and we get to glass the entire Muslim world in retaliation.
Man, its the muslim culture that makes ISIS work. They identify themselves being a muslim as being a part from the Islam. If you Leave Islam for example, you are not only dishonoring yourself, but also your whole family and all Muslims. That us where ISIS works in its core. If it was a kind of individualised religion, like for example being a Cristian, that stuff wouldn’t work.
They use especially younger generations for their propaganda that have witnessed violence in their childhood and therefore have a broken psyche.
Lol, you're pathetic. There's two sides to human nature. Violence is one of them. You can't make it go away by shaming or arguing. It will always be here, it will always be with you.
My point is that we admit now, in retrospect, that the war was fucked up and that our government lied to us to get us involved in the first place. It was about oil, and we look back at it now and say "mea culpa". ALL of us.
Other countries seem to think that we don't regret the course of action Dubya took but we do. And that's why his brother dropped out of the Presidential race, and that's why we're pissed at Bush Sr for fucking with it in the first place. But you can't sit there and cry wolf, and expect villagers not to come running the first few times. If you think that we don't tell each other, "great job with Iraq dumbasses" then you dont keep up with American politics enough to ruminate on this subject.
I addressed the point that the US people regretted Iraq in my initial point (about hindsight). However, my point all along has been that nothing seems to change, the US is still doing the same sort of thing to this day.
at this point it dosent even matter anymore, the damage is done and if the breaking point were the soviets or the americans means shit at this point.
the middle east is fuckt and has reached a state were it is spiraling into the worst fucking thing ever.
if we dont do SOMETHING about it, this shit will only grow and infest the rest of the planet like the cancer it is.
shit is starting in europe and asia and it will only get worse.
the west and east needs to intervene wile we sill can
I was raised a strict christian, a true American. And I swear to god, I can't fucking understand for the life of me why people associate the behavior of ISIS with the behavior and beliefs of all Muslims. I have plenty of Muslim friends, and it took me a while to realize that my own culture had fucked me into believing in some invisible tangible division between us. For fucks sake, us Christians would be happy to stone half the cocksucking faggots on this board only 40 years ago, and we were burning witches before that. Add a few more years back in history and we were all just like tree niggers with some zoroastrian jew horseshit religion. Stop acting like we're so special that we have to have some massive enemy to watch out for. ISIS is terrible and represents the worst of Islam just like christian militias and Jehovah witnesses represent the worst of Christianity.
In b4 bait because fuck the poes in this thread who baited me.
Inb4 cucked liberal. It's possible to be a gun loving patriotic christian without being a blind hick who doesn't beleive in the very real grey area between radical and liberal Islam.
Does no one care about his quints ?
Wrong. You're total assholes for intervening and leaving the areas in total despair. Had you have either done the job properly and wiped them out, or done the job properly and truly assisted in making those areas better places, we likely wouldn't be in this situation.
Should intervention be done now? Well, thanks to you, we have no choice. Should it have been done originally? Perhaps, but for the right reasons, not because of some scapegoat.
If we destroy their cities and leave them in despair and ruin, maybe they will think twice about fucking with us again.
I know this is stupid ass muslims we're talking about so I shouldn't expect them to learn anything but everyone was backing the fuck up after Saddam's Iraq got BTFO.
The only problem is that it's too expensive to invade and occupy, which is why we'll just be squashing islamists like bugs with killer robots for the forseeable future. Barring another massive terrorist attack from the "Refugees" that the left wants us to take in.
You realise there are a huge amount of Muslims, who while aren't associated with ISIS, support the idea behind it? You can't compare one religion or idea to another, when the two ideas aren't the same. You have to treat every idea individually.
The very idea behind Islam is, unfortunately, quite hateful to 'outsiders'. Besides, when a minority speaks much louder than the majority, and the majority don't really do much to combat the minority, why should it even matter? Associate yourself with toxicity, and you become part of the toxicity.
The very idea that muslims can read their holy book and not think "Well this is fucked" speaks volumes.
Islam in general is fucked, when you show how fucked up ISIS is apologists will just say that they aren't real Muslims and Islam isn't at all what makes them do what they do
>You realise there are a huge amount of Muslims, who while aren't associated with ISIS, support the idea behind it?
No he does not understand the basic cultural and tribal assumptions of Islam. Because it's a totally alien and hostile thought process to individualised western Christians who have been conditioned to think of people as individuals.
That's a lot of the problem. People in the west cannot empathize with the muslim's motives. Because their culture and religion is totally alien. So they fall back on hating christians because at least they are speaking the same language.
I want to believe in a lasting peace.
I wish so hard that people could recognize that there is both good and bad in every religion, society, and opinion and that people wouldn't default to distrust and violence and would instead work towards understanding and tolerance.
That all the blind liberals would stop being ridiculously idealistic and quit pretending like Islam is flawless compared to western standards.
But I also wish that conservatives would pull their heads out of their asses and realize that human dignity is not defined by culture or borders... It is a part of shared experiences and education. I wish they would realize that isolationism and division brings the world nothing but a false sense of security.
He met a nice muslim at school, sooo all the other muslims are the same in his head, what he doesn't understand is his muslim friend thinks hes going to burn in hell and that its right that he should
>good and bad in every society
you tell that to a guy that lives less then one kilometer away from a public bath were a shitskin rapet a little boy a few months ago and called it a "sexual emergency" after the cops got him.
fuck islam fuck it to dead
>all the big bad wests fault again huh?
when all else fails, blame the US for all your problems again.
>should it have been done originally perhaps
Sorry you don't like the way we picked up the slack for your country, anon. We intervened like everyone wanted us to, and now we get to hear how badly we fucked up a region that was ALREADY fucked up to begin with.
It is IMPOSSIBLE for all the problems in the Middle East to be the US fault. IMPOSSIBLE, because Saddam was the ONLY person who was able to keep the extremists in check. And he was a dictator who murdered people. So that should tell you right there what the climate was when we finally took action. Someone had to kill people to keep the peace. Sorry we tried to fix that for you.
>I want to believe in a lasting peace.
Lasting peace means keeping hostile alien cultures out.
Diversity + Proximity = conflict.
Conflict within like cultures can be in the form of debate and compromise, however literally all of recorded history shows that conflict with Islam tends to be extremely violent and often results in slavery, conquest, and directed efforts to eliminate cultures which are not suitably Islamic.
>It is IMPOSSIBLE for all the problems in the Middle East to be the US fault.
Middle east dindu nuffin.
They literally sat around peacefully eating their oil until the mean old Americans came along and forced them to become ISIS.
>minority speaks much louder than majority
>majority does nothing to combat minority
Just like people lost respect for Black Lives Matter when the minority amongst them started saying "cracka killing season" and taking over Sanders rallies.
Make the wager then because your wrong, also because I am poor. Mostly because I was supposed to get paid today and wasn't because it is a holiday, a holiday I intended to get shit faced drunk on but I can't because I did not get paid.
So they assume I'm stupid and incapable of understanding the inherent differences between our social systems...
You ignorant fucks fail to recognize that Islam itself is divided into vastly segregated thought groups and some Muslim majority countries like Indonesia have more liberal views on many issues that the USA. The fact that there have been so many female heads of state in Muslim countries, while Americans assume a traditionalist view of gender roles constitutes hard stop sexism is outlandish.
... I UNDERSTAND PERFECTLY THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT PERFECTLY...
I don't hate christians, I don't hate anybody except for truly evil groups (ISIS, not all muslims, Cartels, not all mexicans, WBC, not all christians....) I think generalizing large groups because they are alien is the pettiest most small minded shit ever... I get it, most muslims hate gays, and many think the west is at war with them, and they frequently want to proselytize and a sizable subset of them are cool with the idea of installing 15th century laws... But if you honestly believe they all think this stuff most of the time, you're speaking out your ass and regurgitating right wing propaganda and don't recognize the wide diversity they have... Actually learn these things for yourself, weigh the absolute truths as you find them.
exactly. its fucking bullshit.
we gave you weapons, sure. no one told you what to do with those weapons once we left. you could've put them all in a pit and burned them, you could've locked them all up, you could've done ANY NUMBER OF THINGS after we left.
but you chose to shoot each other and now, blow each other up.
>not our fault
>thats your own shit decision
>and you have to live with that
So you've studied the various schisms within the religion? Or you get that they exist? Because those are not the same thing.
I doubt it, because that takes work. And like most lazy ass islam apologists would rather shitpost.
Here you go, bud.
they probably tried rifling, but due to the terrible quality of the rifling they produced, it probably had a high chance of blowing up in their faces.
so they said "fuck it, let's just use smoothbore"
ISIS mostly kills OTHER Muslims, certainly more then any other religion.
Obviously there is a difference between radical and nonradical.
Also, Catholic priests molest hundreds of kids a year. Most are not even reported or covered up by the church so it's likely even more. Why aren't all Catholics branded as child molesters?
>right wing propaganda
all we're doing here is asking why the moderates aren't doing anything to stop the extremists. if that is propaganda to you, then you're missing the point of differentiation. if moderates agree on a fundamental level with the extremists, then they'll be pleased as punch to just let them continue what they're doing. the fact that we haven't seen any action taken just tells the world that moderates agree, theyre just too chicken shit to do it themselves.
generalizing is bad, sure. but we're not generalizing. if you divide yourself into two groups and claim that one condemns the others actions, the your group is responsible for doing something about it. instead, you sit here blaming the west for all your problems. great way to take back your homeland, run to another country that didn't blast itself back to the stone age and then wreck the place and rape all the women.
Christianity has morally progressed quite a bit from following all the doctrines of ancient middle eastern barbarianism.Muslims not so much. I think the idea that homosexuals are bad comes from the old testament laws saying homosexuals should be killed if they are caught being gay. Fortunately the Christian Bible has Jesus teaching tolerance of our fellow people and voiding much of the old testament bullshit with his crucifixion.
What does it mater if I have an MSc in anthropolizing~ you don't give a fuck... Yes I've studied them...
I'm going to be painfully honest with you and myself... I think Sunni islam is absolute shit, and that Wahhabism in general is archaic and barbaric but most people involved in it are victims of circumstance and I personally know several people who have been educated out of it...
What drives me up a wall, is that Shias and even non-muslims like Sheiks and Hindus are being generalized with the whole subset of "brown invaders" that my country is obsessed with vilifying right now.
Have you considered that that is an argument AGAINST bringing in muslims?
I am fine with the human condition, I am saying that proximity + Diversity = violence, conflict and suffering.
It is fine to segregate and discriminate. That is the underlying assumption of the modern secular liberal world that needs to be destroyed in order to prevent these conflicts on a grand scale and the associated suffering that follows.
When is this going to sink in for you.
We did that shit HUNDREDS OF YEARS AGO AND WE STOPPED BECAUSE IT WAS FUCKED UP. WE STOPPED DOING THAT.
Comparing whats happening now in the year of our lord 2016 to what happened in the 1700s is the most retarded thing someone can do to justify their actions.
>b-but you used to do it a long time ago
>so we can do it now ha ha jokes on you
no, you can't.
>I think Sunni islam is absolute shit, and that Wahhabism in general is archaic and barbaric but most people involved in it are victims of circumstance and I personally know several people who have been educated out of it...
NAXALTing muslims does not make the fact that the more of them you have in your society, the more likely you're going to have their cultural hallmarks such as mass terrorist attacks happening in your countries.
Sure, not all muslims blow shit up, but when you get a critical mass of them they do and also essentially declare their population center a muslim capital and attack locals and police, erect barricades and otherwise demonstrate that that territory has been conquered by a hostile alien outgroup which has no desire to integrate.
Muslims should live in muslim countries. Why are they here if they hate the west?
I hear what your saying... They could be doing a hell of alot more...
They largely are doing a hell of alot more than western media admits... Because helpful muslims don't sell as well as divisive radical ones.
In the United States, the muslim communities ARE in fact contributing to anti-terror operations
You'd be really wise to notice that radical muslims are killing more Muslim civilians than any other group becaue they're working to crush moderates and liberals in their ranks.
There is a reason that muslim people are fleeing ISIL...
Muslim community leaders are constantly condemning attacks and you and I probably disagree on whether or not they have any obligation to.
~I'm so happy I got out of the US~
What? What the fuck are you even saying in this post... Learn how to build an argument
I'm going to bed faggot.
You're an isolationist cunt who needs to spend time as a minority to gain some fucking perspective on life.
>You're an isolationist cunt who needs to spend time as a minority to gain some fucking perspective on life.
Obviously I don't need to spend time as a minority to know that it sucks. Which is why I wonder why muslims keep coming to the west.
Go sleep, little eurofaggot, the call to prayer will wake you in the morning.
I also kek'd at this for the record~
Critical mass of good muslims isn't doing anything to incite change.
When will it be OK to hate muslims? Like when will the people who hate muslims be in the majority and no longer fear the political backlash? The time has to be coming. There has to be a breaking point.
Yea,. By percentage, priests commit less molestation than the normal populist.
So if you have 1000 priests, and 1000 male non priests, the non priests will commit more molestation
East Asia, suck me off so I can spray on your face faggot. You'll regret your illogical hatred when your old and die knowing you didn't work harder to bring the world together.
>condemning their actions
That might be true, it might not be. It might be a ploy moderates are using to further the extemist cause by dividing the issue into "moderate vs extremism". Like I said earlier, a divided populace is easier to conquer than a united front. If we're fighting each other over shit like this, ISIS gets to sit out there blowing people up and burning people in acid all day long. Because we sit here having this bullshit back and forth.
That could just be a conspiracy on my part. Maybe I give ISIS too much credit for military strategy. But they've seen now that brute force doesn't win wars. And WE'VE seen now that they do employ psychological tactics as well. If they're half as smart as one would need to be to dominate an entire region, then they'd know that the best way to disarm a world superpower is to get them fighting each other over their own liberal PC agendas instead of uniting together to do something about it.
I'll die happy behind my wall, knowing that I bequeathed my progeny truth, justice, and a nice white country.
>shit Isis does
>shit Islam does
Wew, Islam is retarded but they aren't all terrorist. You retard.
Isis wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the west and Soviet Russia fucking with the Middle East.
Why would he do that? The media is going to keep running his speeches because they get ratings and they keep them from having to actually show Hillary speaking.
Every time Hillary speaks on T.V. her ratings go down because people remember how terrible she is and how she comes across as every nagging female you've ever known and couldn't get away from fast enough.
Trump is going to win and win big.
Polling "Likely Voters" Meaning people who voted in the last two elections.
Trump causes millions of non-voters to register in primary.
Just wait. The wall is going up and they've got to go back.
>tfw ISIS consists of all terrorist organizations under Saddams reign uniting together to form one gigantic islamic coalition
just tell him the truth
the quran was created by a thieving warlord who fucked 9 year olds
> naive nigga
Thinks that ISIS , which is about 50 k or some sand people with ak 47s, represents 2.1 million people.
Thats like saying north dakota represents the whole USA. Or that since people in florida are idiotic morons , everyone in alaska must be.
Stop being a same fag, fag.
Come up with a original view or thought. Stop playing the part when you dont even know where to start. Same fag.
Isis is Islamic fundamentalism and is not representative of all Muslims.
Look at Indonesia, most of turkey, Kuwait, or all of the urban Middle East before it was wrecked in a geopolitical chess game
>wait - it was fucking wasted?
>Isis is Islamic fundamentalism and is not representative of all Muslims.
More muslims = more fundamentalism. It's only a matter of time before the critical mass is reached and shit starts exploding.
This is not theory. Everywhere Muslims concentrate, there is islamic violence against innocents.
2 guys 1 hammer? There's something about that one gif that fucked me up, and I'd already seen plenty of rough shit on here.
The way the hammer bounces off the guys head, and it kinda nods a bit... Fucking brutal
>all of the urban Middle East before it was wrecked in a geopolitical chess game
When was this?
When the Romans conquered them?
When Muhammad was alive and it was a patchwork quilt of warlords?
When the Huns rolled through?
When the Byzantine Empire kept them under it's thumb?
Even then in between the arabs/muslims were known as savages and took/kept slaves, raided and conquered their neighbors, and attempted repeatedly to conquest and convert Europe, and almost succeeded (See Charles "The Hammer" Martel)
The middle east has always been a barbarous place, which is home to barbarous people.
reading these quotes now, the ideology feels so dated. think about the origins, guys.
Mohammad, Moses, Jesus- they were all forming religions around the same time. Mohammad was rejected a lot because the other two religions preach "worshiping false idols" etc. So of course his response thousands of years ago would be barbaric warfare, because that's where we were thousands of years ago. In a time of barbaric warfare.
It feels silly now, knowing that people still follow the word of basically some angsty teen that woke up one day and said "NO DAD, ILL DO WHAT I WANT FUCK YOU ILL FIGHT YOU".
>Saddam himself was struggling to keep you from killing yourselves
>to keep you from killing yourselves
I'm from Canada, I didn't know Saddam had power here. Fucking moron.
Hey guys saw this was a Islam thread! And I'm musli....... [notices all the white people in this bitch who hate arabs] oh shit....
Can we talk about where isis are getting all these looney toon style acme human size cages? Like find the supplier check their books and you stop isis. And don't tell me they welded those shits themselves Those are fucking pristine welds a robot arm did them shits.
>oh no muh national pride
>how can i possibly recover from such a deep wound
You have no response other than, "haha yer stupid im canadian lol zozzel". You did make a mistake, you bothered responding.
honestly, death by underwater suffocation is a pretty humane way to die.
Also, it might be hard for someone who thinks the us and western europe are the only real locations on earth, that 98% of Isis's victims are muslim. wonder why no one here is as upset about their turkey attack...maybe cuz turkey is almost all muslim. From when ISIS was declared to 2014, they've killed ~10,000 muslims.
even in your video most of those guys look middle eastern.
The current trend of fundamentalist Islam started when the us in Brits overthrough a democratically elected leader and replaced him with an authoritarian wahabbist regime
Summer? yawn. Always makes me laugh when you idiots create words to make yourselves feel cool. You do things that would make your mothers and grandmothers ashamed... but you sure feel cool... cool as winter, right? You are totally ice sickle.... bad as Ice IS. You so awesome, you so fly.... you so retarded. you so follower, you so sheep
Violence caused by other religions is totally dwarfed by the violence caused by Islam.
That's a retarded argument. How many mass-killings have been caused by Christians in the past 50 years?
In all honestly, at least some of these deaths are quick. I'd rather this happen to me than get burned alive or my head sawed off, or fucking drowned like in OPs post
following this logic...
their response was to flee the country and start raping the women of the nations that granted them asylum?
either way this logic is ridiculous. every oppressed people since the dawn of time have fought to take back their country from the oppressors. instead, we get refugee camps filled with rape and assaults. inb4 we are fighting omg.
>turkish fighting the kurds
>turkish firing missiles at Russian jets
You sure are fighting, anon.
im not who you replied to, but do you mind elaborating on your definition of "Jihad". some people seem to have different definitions of it. but jihad means to essentially preserve the religion, which is what i assume all religions try to accomplish. if you mean the corrupt theocracy's wrongly imposing their will on citizens through the religion that is a different story.
Want to know the country with the largest population of mulims? Indonesia
Yeah when I heard about turkey I expected to come here and see a thousand thread about it but you where the first one to mention it.
And how come nobody mentions Isis is losing badly on the Homefront?
This is exactly the kind of discussions I wish we would see in general social media. But that wouldn't fit the narrative would it?
I wish my idiot family could read this but they would be too horrified by the porn and gore to actually read anything on here
Mmhmm, the difference there is something called "parabols". It's a foreign concept, I know. But most scenes like this in the bible are meant to teach you to do the OPPOSITE of that.
Violence in the name of most religions is when they are mis-read. For example, the Bible condemns gays, but doesn't say we should kill them. It says leave judgement to God. Violence in Islam is when it is interpreted correctly. The second half of the Koran is where Mohammad became violent and disgusting. According to the Koran the lessons taught later supersede the fluffy stuff at the beginning. So when Muslims say that the Koran forbid violence they are quoting from the old, superseded parts of the Koran before Mohammad changed the rules.
>The current trend of fundamentalist Islam started
The shit they're doing is nothing new, they've been doing the exact same shit for centuries. The only thing new is the weapons used.
Jihad as in sweeping the land, killing, raping, and enslaving non muslims.
>jihad means to essentially preserve the religion
Only the muslim religion. Anything that isn't in the quran is false, and destroyed
For fuck sake... Stupid summer. It always ruins 4chan.
1st. This video is a fake. There is cut, bodies don't not float over water bla, bla bla.
2nd. Islam as a religion is not fucked up. Interpretation of those idiots called ISIS and other terrorists is.
3rd. Nice bait OP. Next time just do a rekt or gore thread called "Terrorists and war edition".
Really sets the mood here
Laaame. Dont you have better things to do than hate an entire group of people based on blatant, propaganda induced feelings and puppeteered attacks? We just want oil and control baby. Theres no room to hate anyone but our so called leaders.
wrong, i'm israeli and we have Jews from arab origins (Mizrachim) who share the same culture with arabs but not the same religon.
and guess what?
They are rudy poo shit as well even though they are Jews and not Islamic. it's a genetic/cultural thing about being a sand nigger.
It's a small child laying in a hospital. They're laying the blame of the injured child, true or not, on this one particular person. It's a claim of revenge.
Except they won't have their "revenge" until everyone they don't like is dead or changes their ways to match their ideology, and they've been known to lie and fabricate attacks (meaning, blow up their own buildings and claim someone else did it) to fuel their war.
I would ruminate on Brexit if I felt like I had a dog in the fight. As an American, I can read about it all I want but I dont have to live through the context myself so I shouldn't have a say one way or the other. I couldn't make up my mind anyways, if we're just talking about opinions. Both sides had good points.
I think Turkey was definitely the catalyst though. I heard about the Turkey deal when it was first proposed and laughed at the idea. It's OBVIOUS that's where ISIS is getting a lot of their support from.
The way I see it, terrorists try to justify their acts by utilizing religion as their excuse to do so.
Hell, I wouldn't doubt if there were secretive groups or governments orchestrating all this bullshit anyway to cook up trouble for profit.
>>mothers and grandmothers
yeah, I'm a man, so everything I do must pass the value system of old women,
like someone said before - you are indeed very gay my fag friend
Ever wonder why they're so calm?
They line these poor fuckers up on a regular basis and do "execution drills", or mock executions that end with "just kidding! Get back in the truck"
After a few of these they have no idea when their death will come. It's part of the torture. They're promised death, then denied it, mocked with it, laughed at, like it's a game show and they get to move to the next round.
ISIS are not fucked up at all. 'Fucked up' implies they are doing something morally or socially wrong, but there is no such thing as an objective right or wrong. Their actions are neither fucked up or non-fucked-up, neither right or wrong.
Not really, Islam has maintained a moderate majority throughout history. There have always been fundamentalist sects like in any religion.
Jihad doesn't mean what you think is means and you are really scared about something you know little about.
Fundamentalism is on the downswing and Isis is losing.