Just a reminder that if you believe the US government planned 9/11, you're a fucking retard. Also a reminder that every conspiracy theory in existence has been scientifically rebuked by one expert or another.
Not really, OP
1.9/11 has too many accentuating circumstances and unanswered questions
2. There are eyewitness accounts, too many to mention, that suggest that alien ships are visiting Earth
3. It's very likely the Mafia killed JFK and killed off the witnesses
3 barbs up your faggot willy lite ass of yours OP
>Also a reminder that every conspiracy theory in existence has been scientifically rebuked by one expert or another.
yeah, because it's obviously physically impossible for people in power to push their hidden agenda and lying to their citizens
it's literally physically impossible for leaders to lie. literally.
Regarding what? I never stated my position
Sources too multiple to mention here. We know the biographies of each member of the team that was responsible.
Additionally, we know this is not unusual behavior in Islam. It is a fulfillment of scripture.
Being a nigger for thinking America isn't shady as fuck.
> most powerful
> most influential
> American companies did profit from Germany and US anon your jimmies getting rustled?
Jet beams can't melt steel fuel niggra.
Web Hubbell is Chelsea's biological father.
It is practically impossible to silence every aspect of a conspiracy theory. The math says thousands would be involved in 9/11 or any other high-profile incident. Thousands of people who would talk are suddenly snuffed out?
Really? And that isn't going to leave traceable evidence?
No need for conspiracy at this point people are just fucking retarded and programmed lol
..... Not thinking mass government and media can't influence but /b/ on the Internet can
> top kek
> anon baiting the bait
Being a nigger for not realising if it wasn't you wouldn't be posting on 4chin you giant faggot all governments are fkn business and that business is keeping your neck beard being able to post here.
>1.9/11 has too many accentuating circumstances and unanswered questions
Why would the usa government do that. $3.3 Trillion in loss to the usa. Why?
I have myself seen several UFOs, some while I was out with my friends and they saw it too. I am extremely knowledgable in aviation, I pretty much always know what I am looking at if I see something flying overhead.
I'm not so sure I buy that they're all aliums, but it's certainly POSSIBLE. It's not even a stretch.
But I think it's far more likely that the majority of the UFOs we see are government black projects using highly advanced and possibly alien tech.
Because the PNAC felt that 3.3 trillion dollars, and frankly the 6 trillion spent in Afghanistan and Iraq, to be a worthwhile investment to control a region rich in oil, natural resources and optimal strategic location. You really had to ask?
>government black projects using highly advanced and possibly alien tech.
again, that would really really be hard to keep secret
especially if you lived in a Navy town
plus: no noise?
1) You are the fucking retard here, for saying "government" instead of the "united nation intelligence agencies"
2) there are many factual evidences on your government lying about the whole 9/11 situation
3) Learn physics, then watch how all THREE towers fell.
4) Thats right. Three buildings, with only 2 hit by planes.
5) This thread is bait. And terrible bait at that.
Instead of wasting my time in this sheep filled bait thread... I'll link you a pretty prominent video focused solely on the governments "side of the story".
It's long, but you can thank me later /b/ro.
They used this attack as a reason for war.
They killed thousands of there own civilians, destroyed their own financial center killing tons of wallstreet people, costing many Billions to frame some extremist in Afganistan with the hope that they could use it as an excuse to go to war.
Most people don't pay attention to what happens over their heads. I do, moreso than most people. I have been obsessed with planes and aviation, especially military aviation, since I was a little kid, so my eyes are constantly in the sky. If there's a plane going by, I ALWAYS watch it.
So I tend to notice if there's plane I don't recognize, or a set of lights hovering in the air with blue and red lights that don't seem to be attached to anything. (navigation lights are green, red, white, and amber, not blue). The one I just described is one a LOT of people in my local area saw, there's videos on youtube. That thing hovered there for a long time. First it was only two or three lights, then more joined. It was really odd.
>Has never learned a thing about physics in his life except as it relates to the twin towers falling
I watched them fall bro on that morning. I saw the planes fly into them. The physics made sense. Also I was in grade 9 physics at the time so yeah I'm kind of am expert.
Don't tell me you see caring and empathy in Siverstein's eyes. He sucks your soul off your whole body just with his perfidious smile
I've yet to hear one of you debunkers explain how 2 450k tone steel frame structures COLLAPSE THROUGH ITSELF in less than 2 hours.
I'll explain for you in 2 words. Controlled demolition.
>I see UFO's because I always look into the sky and other people don't.
Ok this is just full autism but I will even respond by saying I work under flight paths and I actually do look at the big fucking loud planes that fly across me every 8-12 minutes. Just to see if I can make out patterns and whatnot basically out of boredom. By your logic I should see UFO's all the time then! Of course I don't because they don't fucking exist.
All the signs were there for the attack. And a cabal of Bush, Cheney and Bill Kristol would be able to keep the secret that they allowed 9/11 to happen.
Now, whether they put detonation charges in the Twin Towers? Sketchy. Hard to keep a secret that big. And no Googling is going to show sudden deaths or disappearances of bomb experts post tragedy.
Building 7 wasn't even hit by a plane yet it was the 3rd and last building in history to fall at free fall rate in on its own for print.
Yeah, nothing suspicious about that.
>Also a reminder that every conspiracy theory in existence has been scientifically rebuked by one expert or another.
Kinda like how the conspiracy theory about mass surveillance turned out to be false?
After the 9/11 flight shutdown... ONLY the bin laden family was allowed to take flight.
These are facts. If it really was an attack, they would not be allowed to flee so easily.
Why is it such a stretch to think that somewhere in our massive universe, there's a sentient species that is way ahead of us in terms of technology? Maybe they are even capable of space travel.
Look, i'm not trying to convince anyone. You don't have to believe me. I'm not saying I know what's out there. I'm not that arrogant. I only consider the possibility that not everything is as it seems.
I only described the one because it's the only one that wasn't just me seeing it, LOTS of people in the area reported that one. I asked one of my friends later, who I wasn't even with that day, and he saw it too. They were just lights, they didn't seem to be attached to anything. Quite strange.
>don't fucking exist
but they do, given the reports by practically every cross-section of society in the past 100+ years or more, from trained observers like police or unlikely people like the mayor of Topeka in 1897.
Something is actually happening, not just mass hysteria, marsh gas, weather balloons or whatever other stupid shit they're trying to use as plausible deniability.
>All the signs were there for the attack. And a cabal of Bush, Cheney and Bill Kristol would be able to keep the secret that they allowed 9/11 to happen.
"Last year, TSA failed to detect explosives or spot weapons in 95 percent of the internal undercover tests conducted. (http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/29/those-aggravating-airport-lines-its-really-the-tsas-fault-founding-father.html)"
Or the TSA sucks.
Never said I don't believe an alien species is possible somewhere. In fact just based on math it is a certainty. But the fact that you think you see them every Tuesday night makes you a ham sandwhich.
Because knowing they were visiting us would totally turn this society on its ear. It also means that religion would probably go the way of the dinosaur. I can see why there might be individuals who would want to keep that mythology in place.
Yeah but I'm talking about warnings the US government was receiving that Bin Laden was "determined to strike" possibly using airplanes as bombs. I mean shit, someone did the math and realized the Bush administration would get off with no reprisal.
Also dozens would be a stretch. I said I have seen "several," as a simplification. In total I have seen 3, exactly 3, and only one during the day, so I don't even have a lot of hard evidence myself. I didn't claim anything else, don't put words in my mouth.
I DO know what I am talking about, though, when it comes to aviation, that is my autism. So at least trust me when I say I've seen some things that don't normally fly around and aren't known to the public.
Watch it there Ahkmed, wouldn't want something falling on you.
just made this maymay for some stupid game my friend is posting pictures of
Oi, I forgot where I was for a second...
>im extremely knowledgeable in aviation cuz i look at planes when they fly by
Except, I've already posted an hour and a half long video with my evidence and opinion.
if you DONT believe it was an inside job youre a fucking retard (: if u know the FIRST thing about physics or just logic you would know..so ya know kys
> The nano-thermite chips found in the Manhattan dust samples
> The explosive skwibs seen floors below the impact zone
> The symmetrical collapse of all 3 buildings.
> Building 7 in itself.... I don't think I even need to get into that.
> The scrambled FAA response fighter team
> The many physical witnesses of explosions on that day.
... Do I need to continue? Because I can.
How about you not waste other /b/ros time by researching this shit yourself.
Never understood why people think 9/11 wasn't a set up. Hire group of mercenaries, have them pose as janitors to wire building for a few weeks priror to 9/11.
Get them all on a plane to their "next job" in Europe somewhere. Shoot down plane.
As a final point here..
No one has yet to explain to me how a 450k tonne steel frame structure can collapse through itself at free fall speed.
You can't. It's physics. If, for some odd reason fire was able to melt or bend the steel (as your government says) The building would have tipped over... Not pile drove through its own foundation.
why people fucking fabricate evidence? actually just look at the actual video ffs. its OBVIOUS that it was a controlled demolition. but nah convincing people is like trying to convince a retarded brick wall so im out.
>I pretty much always know what i am looking at when i see something flying over my head
Thats some talent u have there
Fine, dubs speaks.
I still fail to glean the knowledge of how introducing 3 extenuating examples of incidents that haven't been debunked as conspiracies rather suddenly transforms me into a person of color.
oh ya the simple logic of many manyyyy videos showing the tower free fall and implode into itself? melted steel, explosive charges going off etc..that plane would have never taken the tower down and definitely not with an imlplosion. do you know what is physics bud? obviously not. you dont know shit about 9/11 while truthers have researched it thoroughly so just stop.
So I didn't state it very well. Aviation has always been a passion for me, and I know a lot more about it than your average joe. Why is that so hard to understand? I'm not claiming to be smarter than anyone else, just that I do generally know what I'm talking about in terms of aeronautics and aviation.
Notice I'm not weighing in on the other conspiracy theories, as UFOs are the only thing I've personally seen any evidence of.
I could give a fuck less about 9/11 or who killed JFK that shit already happened anyway
>Guys planning 9/11
>"Let's do it in a way that is obviously impossible and will draw immediate suspicion, like a plane taking down a building"
>"Sir, there must be a more cunning and subtle way."
>"I don't know, maybe. Does anyone have any better ideas besides the airplane thing?"
>"OK let's get lunch, Bruce can you order the planes, thanks."
Thinking this conversation actually happened makes you the dumbest piece of shit on earth.
oh my god. lmao u actually believe these "experts" that say "it happened deal with it" ?? do you ever have an original fucking thought in your head or you just do what people tell you to and think what they say you should think. depressing really.
>pic very related
Not that anon who's trolling you, but if those objects weren't military aircraft, then what were they, in your opinion?
Keep in mind that there is no known knowledge of terrestrial aircraft being able to do maneuvers such as sudden right angle turns.
You forgot to call me a faggot. Or even fagggot.
You still get paid anyway?
I don't jump to conclusions using sketchy sources and conjectures as you're doing, anon.
The default setting stands unless it can be debunked. And it hasn't. And no a bunch of paranoid videomakers haven't "debunked" anything, either.
ya..no thats not actually how it happened ?? wtf youre a fucking idiot. over simplifying it like that. you have no idea what their plan was or how they went about it so just stfu stop embarrassing yourself
to be fair, a lot of people did died because of eternal bleeding.
Nigga, are you retarded? You should probably educate yourself before talking about a topic.
>Next 2 pics are related.
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it has been debunked dude. like literally if you have even a tiny grasp on physics you can see that it was a controlled demolition (also the way the towers were constructed it would be literally impossible for it to implode as it did without explosives) and the molten steel thing is just painfully obvious. do some RESEARCH. its not that hard dude. jesus christ.
No research is needed. It's enough to have watched demolition shows on Discovery to see how perfectly those buildings fell (especially the one that wasn't hit).
The evil part of me thinks that if people are so stupidly blind that they can't see what is so obvious, then the race deserves to fail, or at least get mostly wiped out so we can start climbing again and maybe get it right the next time.
you guys are all fucking stupid. Kyle did 9/11.
The american government is full of jews.
That being said, I personally haven't accused anyone for being responsible.
(Even though theres also proof the US government let it happen, but thats another issue.)
My point, was don't believe everything you hear. Think for yourself.
>"List your sources"
Implying that 4chan works that way....
I actually consider it to be much more likely that they ARE military aircraft, using advanced tech that is in testing phase, or possible captured alien tech. I think it's way less likely that there's aliums visiting us all the time, and more likely that there have been infrequent visits to our planet.
I don't think it's out of the question that maybe somebody from some other world crashed here, maybe ran out of fuel, etc, shit that happens during flight. The wreckage would then be recovered and then be analyzed and advance our current tech.
I'm not going to say I have any proof, obviously, except what my own eyes have seen.
I saw another UFO one night while I was driving past Mather AFB. I was heading south. This thing came from my left, it appeared to be huge and had 8 very bright white lights on the front, shaped like a V. It had no navigation/marker lights.
It seemed to be flying way too slowly for an airplane. My view was blocked after it went over my head, until the trees cleared and I saw the back of it, floating over the runway at what I'd guess was 500 meters. I can't be sure of the proportions, distance, or altitude because it was night time and I was driving and couldn't stop on the road I was on without causing an accident.
The back appeared to be horizontally diamond shaped. Based on knowing it had a V shaped set of lights in the front and a diamond shaped back. Since I was only able to see the very front, blinded by white lights, and then the very back of it for a fleeting few seconds, I estimated it to look something akin to an Imperial Star Destroyer (yes, I know, have your laughs, but it was the closest thing I could think of without having actually SEEN the whole thing). It was big. I estimate it would have been similar in size to a C-17 or a C-5.
My 3rd sighting was just a floating blue ball of light that hovered, went suddenly down, suddenly up, and disappeared. I can't confirm that one as anything, maybe it was ball lightning
Why would you need thousands of people to hijack a couple of planes?
Seems to me around 10 or 15 high power individuals get access to planes and 5 people think they're doing it for god.
there would be over a 1000 people involved in some way, not just hijacking planes, but in covering up such a conspiracy. Simply not possible to keep a secret with that many people (or more) involved.
If it was a normal airplane that relied on aerodynamics to fly, yea it'd be impossible. That's kind of my point, is that no airplane flies like that, and I didn't fucking imagine it, so what is it?
what is law of inertia what is conservation of energy.
watch the videooooooooooooo.
you dont have to be a fucking "expert"
>im a retarded drone person who trusts only in "experts" because its dangerous to think for myself
please die so you dont pass on your genes.
I'm betting there's hover technology already, personally. There's too many sightings of hovering objects that do crazy things that shouldn't be possible according to our current understanding of physics and aerodynamics.
>mfw I started this thread as a troll expecting it to fall off page 10 but it's gotten over 200 replies and shows no signs of slowing down
If a random guy takes out a Life insurance policy on his wife, that will pay out 1,000,000 times his investment when she dies, then the next day she dies - of the most unlikely possible way..
but out of respect people who suspect it was the Husband who killed the wife, are called idiots, but one day when it's shown (In this case probably our Childrens' Children will see through the BS) then you will say, whelp I had a sneaking suspicion but you know I didn't want to stir the waters, not my place...
It's weak minded people like you that are the reason evil and greedy men like that can get away with Mass murder for profit.
Think about how much money fossil fuel makes, why would they want to give up that money? That's the first reason that comes to mind.
Who knows? I don't claim to know why, I just know what I've seen.
0:35 How does that not look like an explosion to you sheep fags?
The incredibly heavy steel walls are being projected a good 50-100 feet initially.
Like come on guys. I'm actually really disappointed if you gov fags aren't trolling. Thats gravity in like elementary school physics.
Well it depends what you call a conspiracy. There's a lot of documented historical events that people call conspiracies- for instance, the CIA overthrowing democratic governments in countries like Guatemala and Iran and replacing them with dictatorships, or protecting drug pipelines in countries like Nicaragua, Laos, Columbia and Afghanistan instead of spending money on bribes. I'm not arguing with you about 9/11, but, there's overwhelming evidence to the point of objectivity that the invasion of Iraq was premeditated murder started by the "Project for a New American Century" political think tank group in the 90's. Hell, some people consider global warming a conspiracy too, and plenty of paid "scientists" working for Exxon and Koch have said plenty to try to rebuke it. What is a conspiracy? One could say it's any evidence that the government tries to deny. And the government's tried to deny plenty.
>if you believe the US government planned 9/11, you're a fucking retard
That's pretty unfair to actual retards.
> every conspiracy theory in existence
The 9/11 hijackers were co-conspirators ...
The news reporters had every reason to believe it was an act of terrorism by Muslim extremists ... kinda like how anyone who's ever been lied to by the government had every reason to believe the government was lying to them.
eyewitness accounts are the shittiest form of evidence in existence. look at an 'optical illusion,' which is really just your brain fucking up, and tell me we can trust what some jerkoff sees in the night sky.
The government will tell you it was because of fires from falling debris, but after doing a little research on highrise fires... There has only been 3 buildings that have fully collapsed due to fire. Ironically, all three were on the same day.
So, the obvious answer goes back to Controlled Demolition.
But why that building, when some of the other buildings in the world trade center complex were more damaged and still remained standing?
That is a good question, which we will probably never find out in our lifetime.
My guess, was either renovation (It's where One world Trade Center is now located) OR to delete some super top secret shit, which leads to a bigger picture.
Renovation is probable though. This was a planned attack, leading back to 1997, and maybe even past.
nah, you really dont you god damn retard (: newtons laws of physics proves it was an inside job. its really not that hard if you use your brain for like 2 seconds. i know that wont happen though. oh btw im an expert on nutrition (got a degree) and you should drink at least a cup of bleach a day for a healthy immune system.
I'm pretty sure and hoping that this is bait OP but just incase.
You would have to be a complete fucking idiot to think that the US GOV would never lie to you, that they would always tell you the truth no matter, and that there are no ulterior motives with any of the actions that are commenced by said government.
Blind loyalty in the government is idiotic and not patriotism, patriotism is standing for your people and your country, the US GOV doesn't stand for or adhere itself for the old values that this country once had, it;s slowly turning into an empire with no bounds, nothing wrong with that as long as no land is lost.
US knew of 9-11, they let it happen and they knew of it several months prior, but never did a damn thing about it, they were involved with it also, don't be an idiot OP and think for yourself for once.
>aliens are real
>reversed engineered technology from them
>most ufo sightings nowadays are top secret experimental aircraft being tested
>9-11 was planned
>trump will become president
>hillary will get indicted
Thousands of people in those towers, many are very rich. Odds are pretty high that on any given day people were taking life insurance policies. Even if people updated policy every 5 years that's 2 every single day.
>We know the biographies of each member of the team that was responsible.
We know that 15 of them were Saudis and that Saudi funds Muslim extremists. We also know that Saudi intelligence works with Israeli Mossad and the CIA because they aren't big fans of Iran, a country the CIA sold anti-missiles they bought with Columbian drug money they made selling crack in South Central LA. This is fact.
Nope, 9/11 couldn't possibly be a conspiracy.
The government never lies to us.
> yep conspiracytards are just undiagnosed paranoid schizos
This is an insult to actual paranoid schizophrenics.
Paranoid Schizophrenia was a term popularized by the CIA to discredit the people they tortured during the MK Ultra program. Again, this is fact. At best beliefs in something you have no reason to believe is psychosis except conspiracy theories have plenty of reason to believe their theories and you're even dumber than they are so what does that make you? You aren't a psychologist and you definitely aren't a psychiatrist.
>Saying that you can't cover this shit up unless you have a way to wipe memory or kill about a 1000 people without leaving a trace.
The nerve gas they actually use to do this all the time is probably about 99.99% effective. I feel bad for the handful of people out there who retain the information they acquire while they are presumed to be unconscious.
The Philadelphia Experiment happened and remnants of this chemical weapons program continues to this day using the American public as test subjects. Have any strange dreams lately?
Every conspiracy theory...really? I believe in a conspiracy about 911...not that it was an inside job (that's just stupid), just that there were probably more warnings and a lot of people who dropped the ball then lied about it to keep their jobs.
As for other conspiracies...kindly look up "Operation Snow White", "Project MKUltra", or any other number of conspiracies that were proven to be correct.
You are brainwashed.
> Aliens are not real, they are science fiction, just like everything in space from black holes to fucking quasars and big bangs.
> there is no reversed engineered from fucking extraterrestrials, get the fuck outta here
> yes, ufo sighitngs are nothing but manmade aircraft
> 9/11 was indeed planned, by the minority of so-called jewish people who control the US government, banks and media.
> trump will not become president. He is a puppet. Just like Clinton is a puppet, and Sanders. They are politicians, but they are actors as well. They are literally getting paid to do that freak show on television, to distract the people from th real issues of the world.
> Hillary will not get indicted. She has too much power and many, many connections
Kek, you're talking to a 1st lieutenant airforce officer about shit I've personally seen and know, trying to convince me otherwise of what i've seen, go fuck yourself you dumb fuck.
I'm glad there are people like you still around, because it makes my job way easier.
You just contradicted yourself and you don't even realize it.
You said aliens aren't real, yet refuted the big bang theory in the same sentence.
Are you one of you church fags who thinks the human race came to existence 2000 years ago, created by god so he can completely ignore it for the rest of eternity?
If one magician 2000 years ago wanted to create life, he wouldn't place one species called human into the entire endless universe.
>Jesus born year 0
>we're in 2016
>he thinks ANYBODY thinks that the human race came into existence the same time Jesus was born
Come on, if you're gonna rip on stupid people you have to make sure you don't sound equally stupid.
>you're a fucking retard
I like 9/11 conspiracy theories not so much because I think the government would send its own people to die for a cause they have nothing to do with (cough, Vietnam) but mostly because it's a thought experiment and a good lesson in history, physics, marketing, psychology, global politics, etc. This stuff isn't for retarded people.
What does anyone who buys into the official story learn that's so useful? They couldn't even point to Afghanistan on a map, let alone tell you what the Mujahideen was or why the US government gave them billions of dollars.
Rejecting the official story is beneficial to people and in my view it's a gut-check of a generation. Do you think? If you don't have a healthy sense of skepticism then the answer is orobably no.
>le wasn't trying excuse
Your response was as dumb as the post you responded to.
I'm surprised no one has even mentioned the Pentagon yet.
> 'plane' crashes into Pentagon, destroying the EXACT offices that held all information concerning a nearly TRILLION dollars that had simply vanished from Defense Dept. books.
> No plane parts in the debris
> Hole not quite big enough for a plane... but perfect size for cruise missle
> ALL surveillance camera footage collected by the FBI and never shown
> NO FUCKING PLANE DEBRIS
Lets assume the world banks did it to incite another war to profit from it.
Have to ask yourself
Why would the world banks want to do that?
Because they make money by earning interest on other peoples debt
And what drives people into debt more than anything in the world??? War
You already were one, mentioning or not mentioning anything won't make you any less a nigger.
there was a bomb planted in it
can't find the pictures in my files
basically there was a lone camera taking constant pictures
1 framr shows pentagon all good
2nd frame shows a bomb going off within the pentagon
3rd frame showd smoke and debris everywhere
someone placed a bomb within the room your taking about, i hope i didn't delete that picture
Not to mention the obstacle course of street lights and populated areas the highjacked pilot had to fly through.
An ace pilot in the air force said he wouldnt be able to fly in the same path himself.
So, you believe the government is capable of wiping out thousands of people / people's memories to cover up an extravagant hoax, but at the same time they're so inept that this is all blatantly obvious to you, an uninformed imbecile?
How about this for thought; Operation Northwoods.
Look it up if your not firmiliar.
Imagine that, on a real-world event on September 11. The US government came up with Northwoods in the 60s with Cuba. It would have been real easy to pull off today.
The fact that this thread exists, and that there are literally MILLIONS of people who believe the govt was involved in some way or another is proof that they haven't succeeded in covering up jack shit. It's now a policy of damage control by calling anyone who questions their 'official' story a nutcase.
> So, you believe the government is capable of wiping out thousands of people
Do you know what electro-convulsive therapy is/does? What I'm saying it's already a commonly accepted fact that various institutions have been able to wipe memories for decades.
> they're so inept that this is all blatantly obvious to you, an uninformed imbecile?
It would be blatantly obvious to anyone with any experience in these matters. They make up for their ineptitude at keeping secrets with basic psychology: they don't have to silence me if they can surreptitiously manipulate you into doing it for them. They don't even need chemicals to brainwash you ...