Star Trek versus Star Whores, who would win?
they need to make this movie at least once
Warhammer 40k would win.
The Lord of the Rings
>>690162075
Now that the Star Wars Extended Universe is no longer Canon, then Star Trek wins as their shields stop all lasers.
>>690164473
and to that end the The Dark Lord Sauron
>>690164821
Sauron's a pussy ass bitch that can get the hand wearing the One Ring cut off by a sword. ur a faget
>>690164660
Yeah... pretty sure a lightsaber would still fuck up a faggot dressed in spandex armed with a phaser. Shields or not.
>>690162075
In space battles I am willing to bet the Enterprise holds the advantage; but even then it would be overwhelmed by sheer numbers.
On foot there would be no contest. Jedi are not something unless you're superpowered somehow.
>>690165061
True
And
>>690165136
True
>>690165540
Enterprise gets proton torpedoed in an exhaust port in a matter of seconds.
Spork and Kirk gay make out as they explode. GG at least you tried.
A handful of photon torpedoes would take out the whole empire. Not even close
>>690165929
>"Photon torpedoes"
Gee fag, its like you don't even Star War.
>>690165913
I kekd
ever heard of the borg?
>>690166284
Death Star doom sphere >>> Borg faggot cube
Family Guy Is Win All of Them.
>>690166405
Everyone would be apart of the Borgs team...if the death star could even find the borg that is
>>690162075
Q ends the Star Wars universe.
GOD EMPEROR OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE
40K IS VICTORIOUS
It would be an interesting conflict, but lets face it. The two good guy groups would work together to stop the bad guy groups.
>>690166631
Can q even midiclorian? Besides q wouldn't step in unless he really cared and unless it's season one of tng, he really stops caring
>>690166631
Yeah this, I don't think the star wars universe has an answer for Q.
>>690167108
A well placed proton torpedo is the answer to everything
>>690163360
Yes
Not talking about original Star Trek eh? Well other than Q i'm lost.
>>690165061
He also turned nearly all the lords of all the races into his personal bitch. Not to mention how he decimated the realm of men.
>>690167551
I think we owe the first Dark Lord some credit for getting that stuff going.
>>690166529
Borg wouldn't give two shits. They would teleport onto the Death Star and then assimilate deck by deck. Being that Storm Troopers can't hit for shit it would be childs play.
Destroy a cube and they now have a Death Star.
And if a Sith was on board... yeah that would be fucked up a Sith Borg.
>>690167551
>>690167860
Also I read that he marched around with Celebrembors corpse on a pike.
>>690167879
Assuming they do take the Death Star, 1 proton torpedo is the solution.
Goodnight Borg, Rebels go eat shwarma.
>>690167860
For being a retard sure. Put all your power into a ring that can be destroyed and it doesn't even work against the dwarves and elves? Nice plan, bro.
>>690168059
>>690167860
Exactly thank you! Sauron a pussy? KYS! You don't know shit about power fag >>690165061
>>690167551
Hes not the most powerful guy in the universe even. Ever hear of tom bambadil? That motherfucker would have danced into mordor, shot the ring into the magma, and danced away, unscathed. If only he gave a fuck.
>>690162075
Star wars is a much more militaristic universe and a star destroyer would wreck the enterprise.
>>690168338
Do I need to keep saying it there was more than one ring of power that was just the one to rule them all dig ur head out ur ass and fucking learn something
>>690167433
You sure caught me rotten champ.
>>690168338
No, the one who came before Sauron. Sauron is the second dark lord. His name was Melkor.
>>690168438
Death Star nukes middle earth in 2 seconds and all the faggot elves, dwarves, and omnipotent dark Lords along with it.
Step up
>>690168749
>android
please kill yourself poorfag
>>690168438
I know that, but these bitch are callin him a pussy. at least he stayed true to his ways unlke Vader
>>690168697
Huh? You seem to be literally as retarded as Sauron was.
>>690163360
>>690168749
Samefag
Got you again bitch
>>690168855
Faggot obviously doesnt know about mithril
>>690167108
The Celestials and Abeloth are the supreme beings of SW.
Imortal force users so powerful they are the living embodiment of the force
>>690168308
lol nope as Proton Torpedo's aren't as powerful as Photon Torpedo's, and those don't even destroy Borg ships. Damage them till they adapt.
>>690168751
My bad, Melkor was definitely more badass then his retarded cousin Sauron.
>>690168927
the android did kill himself, that was pretty fucked up
>>690169163
Who gives a fuck about Mithril when your whole universe is turned into vapor? Fuck outta here Gollum.
>>690169163
This, cover the continent with it and the Deathstar wont be worth a dime.
>>690169043
Vader wasnt even fully evil bitch he still had light
>>690168927
He enjoys proprietary devices. I bet you are not even posting from a GNU and Linux machine.
>>690165136
Bullshit....that same asshole with a lightsaber would fall to an 3.5 (heavy stun)area stun effect
>>690167879
Stormtroopers are elite troops
darth vaders and the emperor's battle meditation fouled trooper aim so as not to kill luke
>>690166284
Im disappointed. When the Borg were first introduced, they utterly buttfucked everything in their path. Then, as they were probably the coolest villains of ST (fucking bionic zombies!), they watered them down to being too easily defeatable. And the whole Borg Queen was just a retarded idea from the get go. Totally goes against the whole idea of the collective hive mind. Suddenly, "guess what! the hive mind is controlled by 1 being and it has a normal humanoid personality". Fucked it up.
>>690169299
joke first of all and also i think u mean planet
>>690169376
> I bet you are not even posting from a GNU and Linux machine.
if i could grow a neckbeard i probably would be
>>690169187
Any torpedo will start a cataclysmic chain reaction which will destroy the station instantly. Nice try nubcake
>>690169187
lel
Plasma explosive > photon explosive
you're such a dumbass
>>690169389
They're no clones I'll say that
>>690169397
A woman controlling a bunch of guys? Inconceivable!
This is THE nerdiest thread I have ever had the pleasure to be in. I wish /B/ did this all the time.
>>690169376
>forgot to add the lines intersecting at a 45° angle symbol
>>690169470
The entirety of the Lord of the Rings universe takes place on that planet. So the planet goes and thier universe goes
>>690169503
kek
>>690169503
lol maybe if Lucas was writing the episode. >>690169389
For elite troops they can't hit worth shit. Not just Luke, but anyone, Han. Leia, the fucking Ewoks.
>>690169249
Sauron was merely the lackey who stepped in when Melkor left Middle Earth. The first age was the best age.
>>690162075
Depends on the Species for Star Trek if we're talking about the Q it's no contest, it's just a space battle Star Trek shield's would definitely put them in the better spot but the star wars universe has maneuverability so it could go either way, foot battles star wars no contest unless the trekies start doing shady shit like teleporting the heads off force users and generally dangerous soldiers so they could pick off the cannon fodder.
>>690169748
You sound like an ancient Christian
>>690169633
well no but they are still fairly well trained by the clones.
and if anyone were to fight this new enemy it would be the 501st the unit with the most clones still in it led by vader
>>690169377
Force choked before you pull the trigger. Or mind tricked into into stunning yourself in the nuts.
Beam me up Scotty
>>690169553
The X-wings are armed with 1 kiloton warhead. That is not as powerful as a Photon Torpedo.
>>690169852
Fus Ro Dah
>>690166631
/thread
>>690169289
Brent Spiner hit on me for three days straight while I was an extra on Independence Day 2 last summer.
I am a 100% straight guy btw...
I could have sucked Data's dick.
>>690169924
Why can't we just get high and put all this behind us.
>>690169502
Enjoy government spying from win10 telemetry.
>>690170069
you thinkin of Y-wing
>>690169850
I'm tired of this meme
In the scene you are talking about Vader had put a tracking device on their ship.
Would you kill someone you need to follow dumbass?
the ewoks actually do suffer casualties
Literally everything from the trek universe is technically overpowered by a massive degree compared to Star Wars. A couple of borg cubes or a tiny fleet of federation starships would basically decimate the empire or the rebellion... The fact that the primary weapon type in the star wars universe is something that is 100% ineffective against fed / klingon / vulcan / etc etc etc shield tech basically means they're fucked right off the bat.
Pretty sure a single galaxy or sovereign class starship could warp in, dump enough firepower (some quantum torpedoes ought to do it) to completely decimate the weaponised part of the death star then warp out again before anyone even knew what the fuck was going on...
As for infantry, well, no doubting that seemingly everyone in starfleet aims about as bad as fucking stormtrooper. But realistically some pulse phaser rifles would be every bit as effective as a laser rifle. If you bring the borg into things there's basically no competition. I'd like to see a small team of MAKO's basically wipe out a battalion of storm troopers though, good shit.
Star wars works because EVERYTHING in its universe is at the same underdeveloped level, so no one's really at an advantage. Apples to oranges. As for the force, well, they'd have to get close enough to use it effectively.
>>690169924
I'm the very first one
>>690162075
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4JUxQe4P4g
>>690170169 Tom Bombadil would step in if Q tried anything that would harm his wife. Bombadil sings and does a little dance, Q is now Bombadil's bitch.
>>690170294
It's not a fucking meme dude, there were dozens of them shooting at Han and co in Return and not a fucking one came close to hitting any of them. Hundreds of them vs. the Ewoks and the Ewoks took like 3 casualties.
They CANNOT hit for shit.
>>690170259
>impying i have anything to hide
>>690167108
You think Q is going to take a side, and not just guffaw from the sidelines??
>>690170303
Didn't read lol
Bitches don't know about my spice.
>>690170213
U DUN GOOFD
>>690168927
At least android is customizable, unlike shitty I phone. Mine looks like it was created by Tony fuckin Stark.
>>690170604
He will help Picard. That's his bro.
>>690162075
main deflector dish can do anything OP. remember that is in Trek's corner
>>690170069
Doesn't matter when Darth Vader mindfucks some redshirt into lowering the shields or just flying straight into the sun.
Plus once Kirk fucks Jar-Jar he'll spread the AIDS to the rest of the Alpha quadrant.
>>690170303
except for the fucking death star shield you dumbass.
If you think star wars is underdeveloped you are obviously blind.
Phasers are nothing compared to the plasma weaponry of SW.
ST shields are not impervious to plasma.
One bombardment from a Imp duece or super stardestroyer would obliterate a federation vessel
>>690170662
Oddly enough I figured it would be Goldblum who tried to touch my pecker. Didn't see that coming from Spiner.
William Fitchner was the coolest star on set. Even ate with us a couple times.
the Enterprise is not a military ship. A Victory Class Star Destroyer wouldn't even need to get close, send out your waves of fighters, bombers and interceptors and it's GG Enterprise.
Add to the fact very few of the Empire's forces go it alone - you've always got 2, 3 or 4 Star Destroyers as a carrier group.
I think the better argument might be Federation & Allies and the Rebellion vs. Empire and ST: Hostile Forces (Klingons, Romulans, Borg) etc
>>690170577
>Nothing to hide
>Nothing to fear
>I also don't like privacy
Enjoy being cucked
Bitches please, the Ewoks would WRECK the Klingons, nibble their legs right off.
>>690170668
If I could judge you by your home screen, I'd say you're autistic. Phone customization XDDD is a meme.
>>690170927
Whoa there, let's stick to what's actually been shown in the movies and tv shows hey? If you want to start going into books and EU bullshit (canon or otherwise), then both universes can pull out some really fucking bizarre shit.
>>690169397
>Totally goes against the whole idea of the collective hive mind.
Amen, brother, amen. They totally fucked up the borg and took away what was so terrifying about it - namely, that it was like an unstoppable force of nature with no one in charge, and as such it can't be reasoned with or easily defeated.
It's similar with robots and what make them terrifying. You can't reason with a robot or appeal to its humanity. It just follows it's programming.
>>690169397
But hives still have one central thing to defend, their home or Queen. A hive with no leadership is more like a school of fish.
>>690162075
Surprised this hasn't popped up yet...
>>690170504
yea cause they showed every death in the fucking movie dude.
Han and leia were in cover and later chewie is covering them with a fucking AT-AT.
It's a shitty meme from the movie.
can you imagine... borg jedis
>>690162075
Ripped shirt Kirk solos. Prove me wrong!
>>690162075
>>690171423
Yeah. Retards love to use that one.
>>690167108
There are no answers when it comes to the Q.
If there were, it would not be Q, because they would change the fundamental nature of the universe that led to it being answerable in the first place, and be something else.
The entirity of the empire, the midichlorans, and jar jar hisself would wink out of existence, and turn into a party hat, and then Q would pop it back into existence again, just to fuck with you for lulz, and then remove it from the entire timeline of the universe, present AND past, and it'd never have existed at all beyond a potential to exist, just to make some absurd point no one appreciates.
And yet, outsmarted by an ape marginally smarter than a bunch of other apes.
Hm.
Perhaps there's some need for little ani and his podracer to win the race yet.
>>690171198
Star wars weapons are all plasma faggot
the shield is cannon
An Imp deuce is an Imperial-II class Star Destroyer
and Super Star Destroyer is cannon.
all would wreck a fed ship of any class
>>690171423
>>690171575
Star destroyers have shields though.
>>690170912
this..
>main deflector dish
>reverse polarity
>unleash stored antimatter phorotonics
>garth is fucked
>>690170668
Found the 12 yr old
>>690171575
Baldy would be gagging too hard on Sporks dick for him to give that order while Vader controlled his mind from the bridge of the Star Destroyer.
>>690171818
So does the Borgs
>>690171775
No one knows the the Q do anything. Even odds that they're the whole reason the fight is taking place in the first place.
>>690171775
>midichlorans
Get out
>>690172114
why*
fuck
>>690171818
Then how did the rebellion ships shoot out those domes on top?? Or do the shields only block energy and allow ships to fly right through?
>>690172082
Fuckin lold
>>690171802
They've got cannons?? That's some primitive shit. I don't remember seeing cannon balls, but then again space is black so maybe they blended in.
>>690172254
Because the ex wings have there own
>>690171802
Does the shield stop transporter beams? Even if it did, a single torpedo would be all it took - fire it down at the planet housing the generator from long range, and that's no longer an issue...
I hear you on the SSD but we never saw it shoot, never heard its firepower capabilities stated, and it got destroyed in about 10 seconds flat. Seems like a chronically weak vessel...
>>690171180
>buying from a company who tries to sue everyone and everything for trying to have a competing product. or for thinking about having a competing product
lol, we patented the rounded edge rectangle.
>buying from a company that waits until it has one new feature, and then releases a whole new model instead of just patching it in.
i dont know what's worse, apple, or the people who buy that boring cookie cutter shit. go back to guzzling steve jobs' zombie cum
>>690172175
suck some dicks, i'm typing that shit on an ipad sideways and dont give a fuck about midichlorians anyway because they ruined the goddamn entire point of the force
Anyone got any good Star Trek trivia that even a huge ST nerd would find cool? Talking like Scotty's missing finger or Kirk/Sulu hatred stories level shit.
Everyone know why they used the transporter on TOS right?
>>690172254
Suicide attacks after the capships spent a while focus-firing the dome area.
>>690172713
iPhonefag here. Never understood this war. Android has better software and Apple has better hardware. I fucking hate IOS but damn is the build quality and engineering on the iPhone top notch.
Apple is dropping off though since Jobs bought the farm. I will need a new phone next year and I might actually look elsewhere unless they doing something cool.
>>690162075
Star Trek has much more advanced technology.
>>690172713
>iphone wuz nothin big
>my moto razr is basically th same thing
>samsungs phones are the same now as they were before iphone
>everyones not just making fuckin clones
Cool
>>690172736
>dont give a fuck about midichlorians anyway because they ruined the goddamn entire point of the force
That was my point
>>690172641
it blocks comm transmissions so i would assume it blocks transporters.
Torpedoes wouldn't be able to destroy the bunker around the sheild or the sheild around the bunker itself.
any boarding party would be killed immediately
The SSP crashes because of Palpatines death and the break in battle meditation causing a panic in the command
>>690173168
Same.
The hardware is more important for what I use it fir, so I trudge through iOS as a means to an end.
Both companies shit are made by foxconn using components from samsung, lg, sharp, and a hundred other of the same damn component manufacturers, making apples shit to spec, mass producing it & selling the same exact stuff to everyone else cheaper, all these fuckin guys have been each others employees and on each others boards & have taken ideas & plans from each other, etc etc etc. the only conflict is in the marketing & ad departments, and the minds of the suckers that eat that shit up. Same crap different day.
>>690170213
His character was always a little queer
>>690162075
warhammer 40k
>>690162075
I love how in everyone of these threads there are always the cuck star trek fanboys who say "all they have to do is use the transporter to beam a torbedo on their bridge huehuehue"
if they could do that they would just do that shit in the actual show when they drop an enemy ships shields down.
Star Treck is like a novela. Its shit when it comes to action scenes and battles. all it has is story line and drama. its made for the kind of nerds who like DnD. all story and shit action.
>>690173621
Oh fml i thought gyou were giving me shitcakes because i cant spell better than a butthole,
>>690173168
it's not so much that it's a bad product. hell, people wouldnt be buying it if that were that case. it's their business model and their followers that are shit.
apple has to hold your hand through everything you do with the phone, and is always happy to explain why you cant do something on their platform. lack of customization is kind of a bitch too.
and then there are the people who rant and rave over every little product they release as if it's a gift from god. and they'll try to explain why apple is so much better than any other product by regurgitating buzz words that dont mean jack shit.
Sorry faggots. Whether you love or hate the show, this bitch slays all of Lord Vader's fleet.
As previously said above, the Enterprise's shields would stop the majority of the Empire's weaponry. I'm sure it wouldn't take long for them to work around that. However, Tie fighter pilots fly like they're in a WWII dogfight. Federation ships target multiple targets accurately and effectively. Depending on how shields work in a galaxy far away, a Federation ship may be able to use the transporter offensively. I'm picturing Vader "surrendering" in the face of superior technology, then killing every crew member of the Enterprise personally.
>>690174509
top kek nice try cuz.
that's an exploration ship very small weapons loadout
>>690174121
Yup, I always laugh at my buddy who is Mr Samsung as we call him. Samsung phone, TV, car shit, everything. I am like 'dude my phone is prob half Samsung parts'.
I just use it to text and shit. It works 100% of the time. God bless you Steve Jobs you wonderful bastard.
>>690174496
I am with you dude I don't give a fuck about what others have for a phone and other shit from Apple (their desktops and laptops) I have always hated.
But they make a hell of a fucking phone. For guys like me that just need it to work and couldn't care less about custom shit, it is perfect.
>>690174200
Second'd
>>690174280
>99% of everything is action
>1 show focuses on story & slightly less on conflict resolution via assplosions w/o looking back
>this show sucks, whar es the splosions????
Punch yourself in the nuts for me.
>>690173168
You have that so wrong, android hardware is almost always higher specced at the same price point as iPhone , it's the shitty OS holding it back, apples advantage is that the software made for it is tailored to very specific hardware.
>>690174737
That's Voyager from Endgame... quite a different matter altogether.
>>690174367
Np. I just hate midichloreans, and how Lucas torpedoed the whole idea os the force.
>>690167879
can't teleport through shields
>>690174200
>muh angst is unfathomable
So, in other words, its a melodrama written for 16 year old boys.
>>690168576
enterprise doesn't raise shields or power weapons until it is being shot
>born can't teleport through shields
Is this nigga serious?
>>690175029
I don't give a shit about specs. Talking build quality and engineering. This is what Jobs was such a fucking pro at. He made those little Chinese mfg the fucking impossible. Brush aluminium, gorilla glass. Just feels so right to hold. iPhones are a fucking marvel when Android shit was plastic and ugly as fuck.
They are all pretty much the same now, but Jobs knew industrial manufacturing like nobody else.
>>690162075
Star Wars ships are more destructive, hyper drives beat warp drives EASILY, the Empire makes the Federation look like an ant hill. Vader would easily handle Kirk or Piccard.
>>690175277
Yeah me too.the prequels could have just sucked and that would have been fine, but as if that wasnt enough, he actually retroactively ruined the central concept the other three movies are based on.
How did no motherfucker in the production at any point not point this out duribg the entire making of that multi year zillion dollar project? My head hurts.
>>690175702
SD don't care shields stay on at all times and they shoot first.
>>690175476
>>690175826
*Borg...and meant to quote him
Need to swap bleach for the beer I'm drinking...
>>690166284
I've also seen Picard give a borg a name, which disrupted the hive mind, which Lore then exploited and became the leader of the Borg. A force user would easily do that, Palpatine would be giving the borg orders within a few hours of meeting them. GG Star Trek.
>>690175702
there are always low power navigational shields running. protects the ships from things like small asteroids and ship debris while under impulse power.
>Q
/thread
>>690175029
True, though Apple also makes its own chipsets, which have handily led the way in ARM development. That kick of their quad core 64 bit set caught us all with out fucking pants down.we expected an incremental bump, not fuckin 8 jumps at once.
>>690176394
>leader of the Borg
Wrong Lore became leader for just a few Borg who had no connection to the collective.
Fun fact: the day the second part of this episode (season premiere) aired I was at computer camp and got my first kiss from a girl.
Sept 20 1993
>>690174509
this
Somebody on some lost forgotten forum once worked out the firepower and resistance to said firepower in terms of megatons of dynamite.
He worked out that x1 Acclamator Assault Ship could hold of x30 Enterprises.
>>690176550
I keep fucking seeing this argument, Q wouldn't do anything besides observe Picard get force choked by Vader.
Where was Q when Picard was captured and tortured by the Cardassians? Where was Q when the ship became sentient? Where was Q when that one autistic guy in engineering became a super genius and abducted the ship?
Nowhere, you can't use Q if they can't use the embodiment of the force.
>>690176020
here, i'll fix it for you. with my personal reasoning
the midichloreans are parasitic and are attracted to force users. they dont in fact provide the host with force sensitivity, they instead feed on the small amount of force output that a jedi/sith constantly gives out.
so the more powerful someone is in the force, the more midichloreans they have feeding off of them.
stupid as fuck, but if it's gonna be a thing, i'll make it work "logically"
>>690176969
Doesn't refute my argument, if someone as simple as Picard could fuck up the borg collective, Palpatine could do the same thing on a much larger scale.
>>690176017
>empire ships are more destructive
more self-destructive maybe. They have neither the armor nor the defenses nor the offensive weaponry of even a fuckin basic shuttlecraft.
They'd meet their match going up against the equivalent of a schoolbus.
>>690176550
the only reason ST and SW would ever fight would be Q's doing
>Celestials
/thread
>>690162075
>A vessel has been detected at unimatrix 422, grid 05. Vessel identified as Imperial starship, "Star Destroyer."
>Alter course for interception. Prepare for assimilation.
Keep in mind that both Death Stars were destroyed by X-wings, and a Star Destroyer can be destroyed by an A-Wing.
>>690177195
Thank you. That makes me hate my adulthood a bit less, for shitting all over my childhood as soon as it had the chance.
>>690177285
Oh I wasn't arguing at all because this ST vs SW shit is fucking dumb to even think about since the universes are so different. I just didn't want someone to read your comment and not know the true canon.
Carry on with your retarded arguments anon I am just here for the porn.
>>690177316
you're just fucking wrong buddy
just fucking wrong
stop being retarded
SD would fuck up any Fed vessel
>>690177135
The argument is Picard vs Star Wars, fuck head. It's STAR TREK UNIVERSE vs STAR WARS UNIVERSE.
>>690177073
an acclamator? a 752 meter long ship can hold 30 plus enterprises? nigga you couldnt even fit 4 NX class ships in there
>>690177722
isn't*
>>690177316
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/FiveMinutes.html
/thread
If Empire gets Star Killer Base the war ends within a single strike.
>>690177285
Palpatine would immediately pose too big a threat, be overrun and assimilated quickly.
>>690177854
I
aint
readin
that
shit.
If you've got something to say, you can say it here & be part of this discussion like everyone else.
One Defiant class could destroy the Death Star alone without its cloak.
>>690177941
trek ships always become so much more fragile when they fight in groups
>>690177703
With what, wishful thinking bombs?
>>690177703
not true
>>690177722
Q first showed up in TNG, I'm just using the examples of when Picard, someone close to a member of the Q continuum, got in serious trouble and was not assisted by Q.
Besides, if you've seen the last episode of TNG you'd know (SPOILERS) the Q continuum is neutral towards the Federation.
>>690177941
Fuck DS9 busted it out the last couple seasons. Might have to binge that shit soon.
When I was a kid I hated DS0 cuz in my 12 year old brain it is the reason TNG ended. Looking back I should give it another shot.
>>690177894
No he wouldn't he most likely could sneak around a Borg ship without them even realizing he was there.
>>690178118
I was going to read it, but then I decided to do something less gay.
So I masturbated to two homosexuals having gay sex.
>>690178118
Star Wars: Acclamator troop transport
Star Trek: Enterprise-D
Light guns: 300 million GW (6 megatons per shot, 24 guns, assume 1 shot every 2 seconds for time-averaged power output rather than peak output)
Main phasers: 3.6 GW (5.1 MW per emitter, 200 emitters in the main phaser array, 2 full-sized saucer arrays and 3 smaller roughly half-size arrays on the stardrive section, p.123). Note that phasers appear to have a chain-reaction effect so their raw power output may be deceptively low.
Heavy guns: 2.4 million megatons (200 gigatons per shot from each turret, 12 turrets)
Photon torpedoes: 64 megatons max theoretical (based on 1.5 kg antimatter payload, p.129)
Sublight acceleration: 3500G
Sublight acceleration: 1000G (design goal, p.75)
Operational range: 250,000 light-years (before refueling)
Operational range: 2750 light-years (7 years at warp 6 before refueling, p.3)
Shield heat dissipation: 70 trillion GW peak
Shield heat dissipation: 3311 GW peak (473 GW per generator x 7 generators, p.138)
Reactor power: 200 trillion GW max
Reactor power: ~4 billion GW at max warp 9.6 (scaled from the warp power chart on p.55 which uses units of joules for power; we assume this is a simple mistake). From the chart, their fuel supply for 7 years of warp 6 cruising would be roughly 2E23 J (enough to run an Acclamator's reactor at full power for just 1 second).
Max hyperspace speed: not stated (however, the ability to travel "halfway across the galaxy" in a matter of hours as demonstrated in ANH, TPM, and AOTC requires speeds in the range of 10 million to 100 million times c).
Max warp speed: ~2000c (warp 9.6), sustainable 12 hours for a single sprint of roughly 3 light-years. This appears to have increased to roughly 3000c for newer ships such as the Intrepid-class.
>>690178397
Binge it. Binge it for Kira. DON'T BE A FUCKING PUSSY. I've been watching Voyager episode by episode since like February.
>>690178191
That's why Voyager was never destroyed in the Delta Quadrant: she was always alone.
>>690177854
Man... I swear whoever came up with those official power numbers for those Star Wars vessels was smoking some serious shit at the time. It's like a mindless 10yo star wars fan went "omg it has 1 million niggawatts! NO! 10 MILLION! NO!!! 100 BILLION!!". Not doubting their 'officialness' but fuck me, those numbers are pure idiocacy on behalf of whoever officially decided on them. By comparison, the specs given for Trek ships is often based within a fairly reasonable reality of what scientists today believe we may be capable of in the future with certain technological improvements.
Doesn't really mean much in this case but still...
>>690178370
You're right, but that's not what we're talking about! Follow the fucking thread!
>>690178708
kek
>>690178397
I find it holds up the best out of all of them.
Even though for me it's TOS>TNG>DS9. (there is no Vger or Ennersurprise, those are shitty fanfic).
>>690178754
I don't need to because you can't just pretend everyone in Star Trek would team up against everyone in Star Wars, it's much easier to compare the empire with the federation, even if the federation is puny compared to the empire.
But like I say, the Q wouldn't do shit.
>>690178594
Just started True Blood (not really wanting too but this chick I want to blow a load inside of is so totally into it I need to) so it will be fall before I get to it.
As I recall Voyager started its run around season 3 of DS9 yeah? Like they were in syndication at the same time?
I am a Dax man...Kira's hair turns me off.
>>690179094
TOS was trash. There I said it. I love Star Trek no matter what, but TOS sucks.
TNG>DS9>Voy=TOS=ENT>>>>Star Wars
could a jedi block two phaser beams coming from different directions? theyre not in short bursts lime blasters.
>>690178716
He makes a decent case, Star Wars ships do have better destructive feats.
>>690179156
I believe so. Voyager *was* at DS9 before she got sent to the Delta Quadrant. After Voyager, I'm going to do the same thing with DS9. Getting kind of bored with....anime....
>>690162075
Does star trek get the borg, the dominion, and species 8472, if yes, then star trek no contest.
>>690177854
I like Star Wars but StarKiller base is fucking retarded
>>690177894
Palpatine would immediately block the borg signal and replace it with his own thought control
>>690178584
I made it as far as light guns: 300 million gigawatt
>>690179438
Yes, there are force abilities that would allow them to use even their bare hands to stop the phaser with the force. They could also rip the phasers would the users hands or simply avoid them altogether using the force to predict their movements before they even make them.
>>690170036
Jedi are a minority, retard. Most of the fighting would be droids/clones/stormtroopers, who would get BTFO'd by the Federation.
>>690179486
>We are the Borg.
>Lower your shields and surrender your ships.
>We will add your technological and biological distinctiveness to our own.
>Your culture will adapt to service us.
>Resistance is futile.
>>690179478
yep, she starts the series out at ds9 leaving for a quick marquis mop up mission. we know how the rest goes
>>690179427
I concur with your rankings.
>>690179694
expanded universe shit dont count
>>690179776
>I accidentally the whole ship
>>690179486
>Jem Haddar
>>690179691
I wouldn't be surprised if a Star Destroyer could knock the enterprises shields out completely in a single strike.
>>690179156
Same. I dont even like brunettes, but Dax... My god, worm in her guts or no, i'd eat the peanuts out of her poopchute.
>>690179873
TNG, DSP, and Voyager doesn't count either for the same reason.
>>690162075
Batman win
>>690179427
I just like it because I can keep rewatching it forever, and always see new parts I missed when I fell asleep the previous times. Its the show that keeps on giving.
>>690179997
LMAO! No THAT is a reach if I've ever heard one.
>>690180306
Unless it's at the box office.
>>690179478
Ok ya that sounds right. Any thoughts on the new series launching next year?
Hoping for a completely new Star Trek style.
>>690179796
You are wise.
>>690180061
I never got the whole thing with her worm being friends with Sisko back in the day? Gonna have to pay attention to that when I binge it.
Which Dax was hotter?? I used to think the second one cuz she was kinda nerdy cute, but I recently saw a pic of the first Dax and she hasn't aged a day. Being an oldfag now, women to look good into their 40s and 50s really turn me the fuck on.
>>690180418
Basing it off that datasheet or feats that Star Destroyers have done, I bet it could.
>>690178242
with it's full complement of plasma based weaponry and proton (plasma) torpedoes
you got concentred light faggot
Halo? :D
>>690177854
Just say some numbers. Any numbers. If star trek ship has 2, say you have 700 trillion, why not.
>>690178318
>shuttlecraft
nigger you trolling
>>690180095
tng phaser pistold would totally wreck anyone in star wars. your pretty much overpowered, they can explode boulders.
>>690180441
Looking forward to the new Trek, really. It's part of why I'm sort of 'leaning away' from anime, getting ready for the new Trek-hype that is sure to follow. From what I hear, JJ Abrams isn't working on it, so that's a plus.
>>690180553
protons=/=photons
>>690180708
Oh thank god
>>690179997
10 x-wing could
>>690180425
Some whining Critics and a bunch of neck beard Faggots didn't like it because Assleck was actually good as Batman Hurr the fedoras
>>690170668
2007 called
>>690177668
sauce?
>>690179694
it's in the movies jackass.
don't be retarded
>>690180624
Nah, star wars on the ground would wreck Star Trek. AT-ATs would be walking on Earth's surface before Worf gets shrekt'd by stormtroopers
>>690180708
JJ Abramms is off ruining starwars so
you gaggots of Flags can get that shit
SW Dildos SW Lube and JJ AbraMS blow up doll
>>690181141
they could also move objects ( like red shirts) into the path of the beams
>>690181265
TFW we almost had joss whedon directing star wars.
>>690181226
then Q comes in
>>690180708
Never watched anime before so I am not sure what to say to that.
Things I do know about the new series:
set between TOS and TNG
NOT Abrams rebooted universe
highly serialized instead of ship in a bottle
rumor is we will get a new ship/crew each season and possibly more than one ship/crew each season
What scares me is CBS is putting this as a marquee show on their 'netflix wannabe' platform that launches with it. That could be good cuz they may put some money behind it, but bad cuz if the platform fails they will blame Trek.
>>690181139
Hillary Rodham Clinton
>>690162075
star craft wins fagget
>>690181523
Means we should be seeing this type of uniform, Enterprise-B, and possibly Enterprise-C before the ah...'temporal accident' with Enterprise-D. The price for this type of uniform/costume is going to skyrocket.
>>690181509
No he doesn't, where was Q when the borg (being captained by picard) raped the Star Fleet? The same thing would happen when Star Wars ships exit out of hyper drive right near Earth. Q only does shit that he finds entertaining, NOT helpful for the federation.
>>690179427
DS9 is a fucking soap opera. Bottom of the ST list.
>>690181509
Starwars Jedi vs a Q from the Kuntinuum
Jedi: These are not the (Interupted by Q)
Q: What Jedi no the never existed what ever do you mean
>>690180708
Hopefully the first minute of the new star trek goes
>Hey Captain Worf, did you hear theres an alternate timeline where it's like reality but we dont need spaceships at all anynore because we can just beam wherever, and also easily timetravel but not to pop back save our shoplifting moms from a collapsing planet cause a mean beaner with a tattoo got all pouty and kahn got loose and everything was like identical to our reality but about terrorism and kahn became british and wears these strappy black clothes and is very scary and
>leiutenant gagngage, no, how would I, or how would you, for that matter, since it is not in our timeline, you are clearly making it up. Now assume the position and prepare your anus. For you, today is a good day to die.
>>690181808
Just watched that one, & commented on how much i liked those uniforns.
Will Wheaton's character vs that kid who played kid anakin skywalker in the phantom menace?
I'd say Anakin because at least he has some feats...
>>690182304
>
>>690179984
Jem'Hadar, you fucking casual.
It's so cute treckies even think they have a chance
>>690182494
>>690181226
Ewoks defeated your fuckin ground forces.
Your at-ats cant even walk on uneven surfaces.
I watched two midgets in furry suits smash one with a log and it fuckin blew up.
One tripped on a rope and fell down.
>>690181808
Wouldn't mind that at all and I think Nicolas Meyer has some input on this version. Those unis are dope. I suspect we will see something noncanon just to update it. Also wondering what they do with the insignia (and if the communicator is part of it). Uniforms/insignia are so much a part of ST I hope they respect it.
>>690182304
I do know they are avoiding the shit out of Abrams rebooted stuff, but I also do know Worf is 100% not involved. Pretty sure he isn't even born yet.
>>690183085
Ewoks won because the force.
What about that time when Picard gave up his chief engineer to a stranger tard race only to have them kidnap him?
>>690182749
I finally found waldo!
>>690162075
Firefly
/thread
>>690183317
ha ha just watched this one on BBC america.
"You make it go now?"
Troi tried to warn them but of course nobody listens cuz 100% of the time Troi is fucking useless.
>>690183514
gtfo with those accents.
>>690183385
Waldo's grandson, in any case.
>>690183514
>/threading himself
Get a load of this faggot
>>690183317
He let them. He can afford to be polite.
>>690167108
Forget just Q... If you're going to bring up Q, might as well include then entire continuum. Not to mention, things like the Tox Uthat that can stop all reaction in a star, a thalaron generator that can wipe out an entire planet, in seconds.. Omega molecules, trilithum torpedoes to take out a star, multiphasic shielding to drive through a start if you feel like it, phased cloaking so you could hide inside of a planet. Seriously. Come on now.
>>690183085
those are at-sts
scout walkers lightly armored
it was smashed by two huge logs.
the ewoks couldn't have taken an AT-AT which were deployed only around the main shield dish.
the Ewoks helped the rebel forces take on a power relay bunker not the main instillation
>>690183847
He almost lost his chief engineer, I'm honestly surprised that star fleet didn't fucking court martial him over it.
>>690166284
if the borg assimilated a Jedi could they use the force?
>>690184024
Yes, and so could every other Borg thanks to the shared knowledge of the hive-mind.
>>690174280
>if they could do that they would just do that shit in the actual show when they drop an enemy ships shields down.
They have:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bkw69E_C4g
Stargate used this tactic a few times too.
>>690183514
too soon
>>690184188
How would they be able to make a connection to the force?
>>690183866
But none of those things are canon, in the original three films. The Q are very much a real part of the fucked-upedness the enterprise is dealing with.
>>690183866
Temporal Phase Generators to exist inside but outside time.
>>690183866
Sun Crusher
Flow walking
the Yuu-Zhan Vong's living tech
Hyperdrive Cannon
Force Storms
The Celestials
Abeloth
Star Wars has crazy shit too
>>690184417
Oh is this from the sideline Cartoons ?>
>>690183942
nigga, an AT-AT couldnt even walk through a dense forest. Wat are you even.
>>690184417
Not canon.
Tacked-on fanfic bullshit.
>>690184256
The same way the Jedi do; they'd know how to thanks to assimilating all of the knowledge/wisdom of the Jedi's memories. This could be the end of the Universe, because imagine an entire Borg Cube's worth of drones concentrating on splitting a planet or other thing in half with the Force. All of them having the same thought, same intention, same target.
>>690184024
no.
they would only have knowledge of it but being tyed to technology cuts your ability to weild the force some.
the borg being mostly cybernetic wouldn't be able to understand the emotions needed to master the force
If you bring up the Killik who once melded with a jedi. they simply became smarter and better at healing them selves but were unable to use the force
>>690184417
>>690184687
Fuck you it's better than the bullshit we have now.
and he was bring up non-cannon bullshit as well so fuck off
>>690184733
You need galaxy specific bacteria in their bloodstreams in order to communicate with the force, non biological entities and out of galaxy lifeforms do not have these, therefore the Borg would know of the force, but would not be able to do anything about it.
>>690184585
Which is why it was in the cleared out area around the main shield dish you dumbass retard
which is why that isn't where the battle takes place fucking think before typing
JJ Abrams star trek movies makes the Q noncanon.
>>690185129
>galaxy specific bacteria in their bloodstreams
What.....WHAT?! When did this happen? Man...
Top o' the mornin' to ya. My name's Kate Mulgrew. No I'm not really fat. I just ate the crew!
>>690185468
The prequels did, I think it's called mediclorians.
>>690184797
Vader
Massive Force user here
I find it ignorant to say that 90% of my body
being made by my self some how excludes
me from using the force.
I find it a farce that you would discount the disabled is such a fashion.
>>690185535
'avin a giggle, eh m8? I'll break ya foken face son.
>>690185231
JJ Abrams don't count for Shit considering the sum of all materials
>>690185959
Nope, JJ Abrams Star Trek is the new canon.
>>690185821
no it limits the force potential of an individual vader was powerful beforehand but could never grow stronger due to his cybernetic parts.
Vader was also a Dark force user so he was using hate to augment his already strong connection to the force.
should have worded it better
>>690186137
JJ ABRAMS loaded into a Canon and fired into the sun
Cant do Starwars and Startrek
JJ ABRAMS INCLUDES
Time Machine into next Starwars Movie Hansolo was never born
Fat Lesbians are the only force Users Niggers
Run all space stations
and someone steal a Rainbow and fat Lesbian Niggers have to find the rainbow niggers have to taste it.
>>690183514
Better show, but technologically inferior. Next.
>>690185932
Go stew your head ya Talaxian twat
>>690165136
1. beam photon torpedo onto bridge of star destroyer
2.????
3. profit
>>690186408
Best character ever.
>>690186569
Can't, teleporters don't work on shielded ships. All star wars ships have shields.
>>690186569
transporter beams cannot go through shields faggot try again
while being bombarded by a larger more heavily armed ship.
>>690186746
Literally did nothing wrong. Janeway is a murdering bitch.
>>690162075
So which series has the larger bunch of ships? I feel like StarWars has a larger total number of ships/space stations/blarg derp shit. Also StarWars seems to have more destructive shit whereas Star Trek would be more into furthering science and enlightenment. Hippie peacenix don't win fucking wars tho. Also UNLIMITED POWERRR HAHAHAHA
>>690187009
It's why I love janeway. A self righteous, murdering bitch.
>>690163360
This
>>690170927
Yeah mang, probrem is we have no baseline comparison to say what weapon does what to which shield and shit. I still go StarWars.
>>690169112
lol give it up retard
>>690172394
baltar pls
>>690175029
droid OS is fucking shit as fuck. just sayin'
>>690177195
mitochondria? lul but srs
That's one of the better explanations of midishitians that I've heard.