How can we ensure that Sanders can get the nomination at the convention instead of Hilldawg?
Pay off the media like she did and also have dirt on important people.
>>689074053
The whole country has dirt on Hillary but it doesn't seem to matter.
at this point, you need to kill her.
I really want trump to win, but even if he doesn't I'd rather have bernie than that witch.
>>689074194
I unironically would if I knew I could do it and get away with it, and I'd be doing the whole world a favor. But I can't so Secret Service, you can chill.
>>689074528
I can't stand Trump but I'd rather have him than that horrid cunt. Guess we at least have that much in common.
Eat a sandwich full of rat poison faggot communist
>>689074745
>Bernie Sanders
>communist
>>689073947
You can't. In fact even if he had won the popular vote against lying cunt Hills the demotards would fix the superdelegates or whatever to ensure he lost.
Spread that around.
>>689074928
Socialism is just communism with a different spin to make it sound like it will actually work.
Protip: it wont.
>>689076038
Why do you dislike that shit though? What's wrong with an egalitarian society?
>>689073947
>689070013
Kill the giants who drop the seeds, for then we can eat there fruit. We won't have to till or sow, for there food can be ours. Jack then climbed the beanstalk, ax in hand. He was prepared to feed his people, to take the giants land.
The giant sat and wiped the sweat from his brow, his harvest nearly done. Corn and beans and barley and millions of other foods. Giant had worked hard all his life, he had more then enough, but he enjoyed his work and took a drink before heading home.
Jake was waiting by the door, and killed the giant right. And to his food, he took it down for all the people to chew.
Soon (Or later) the food ran cold, the giants food all gone. Because there was plenty the people never grew there own. Jake however was quite dumb and grew a crop his own. A garden maybe even more grand then the giant had once owned.
The people killed and ate ol' jack, they took all the crops. Soon they too will die, for in the end... It's only you who can save you.
>>689076993
Sorry this was for
>>689076521
>>689076521
people aren't equal faggot. Please watch Psycho Pass
>>689077649
Lie number 2
That the rich have more pie and are bad. The Rich makes more pies. There is more now for everyone then there was 20 years ago. In 1990 the computer was rare, now everyone has at least two in there home.
>>689077624
People don't have to BE equal to be TREATED equally.
>>689078078
Yes they do. If you treat a lazy person the same as a hard worker you are telling the hard worker he is worth less then the lazy person. You are telling him to not even try .
>>689078078
Equal opportunity not equality. If you do not achieve the same results with equal opportunity the strong and hardworking deserve a bigger slice of the pie.
There is NOTHING wrong with incorperating SOME socialist ideals. Universal health care should be a thing in any developed country. Being able to live and to keep living is a right. It's honestly astonishing that fucking Cuba has a higher life expectancy than the US
>>689078524
No, that is horrible. There are people who treat there body like shit and Medicare it up when they get cancer. Let them rot.
>>689078078
What are incentives faggot?
>>689078241
Work should still be mandatory in order to get your share.
>>689078667
Edgyyyyyy.
>>689078788
Not really.
>>689078667
>this world is rotten
>heeeuurrrrr hur hur hur
>>689073947
Assassinate Hillary.
>>689079053
Hey if you jump of the cliff I ain't going to call the ambulance...
EDDGGGYYY.
>>689079088
I love this world but to reward a person for bad behavior is retarded.
Find copies of the emails about the TPP showing her support of it that have been blocked from release until after the election and have them publicly released.
Release transcripts from her big money supporting speeches proving she's just as much in their pockets as people said.
This leads into: Have her get indicted. Which won't happen unless she's made dead in the water politically.
>>689079250
>I love this world
How is this possible tbh?
>>689079575
How isn't it. We are living the best time in history. We all have first world problems. We are as smart as we want to be, can have anything we dream of (In a digital world) And with half the world single should be no problem getting a date... OH NO PLAUGE EITHER
>>689078773
No mandates or coercion necessary. What makes capitalism great is that transactions are voluntary.
>>689079892
Nothing makes capitalism great.
>>689079855
Every day I just wish to die.
>>689080282
Oh waaa newfag. Just do it and help everyone.
>>689078667
I totally agree I don't want scumbags leaching off my taxes than they already are. let them wither and die
>>689080575
I will, eventually. I wasn't even whining, it just legitimately blows my mind when people say the world is a good place or that life is actually positive.
>>689080701
The most autistic thing you can do is to care about shit like this. I bet you rage at food stampers too.
>>689080701
Mother fucking exactly. I only agree with one hand out. The government pays each poorfag 1000 dollars to be sterilized and end the this plauge of entitled asshats.
>>689080199
Except for economic growth that is matched by no other style of government in history?
>>689080931
>"food stampers"
What are you 12?
>>689080931
Do they have jobs... no I don't, they are trying.
Freeloaders with no job, let them starve. Put children in rich peoples homes to get a proper life.
>>689081079
amerikkka must be made to answer for its crimes
>>689081190
Yeah, let rich people pay.
>>689081114
Food stamp users takes longer too type. You're autistic for carrying about my use of food stampers obv
>>689081423
12 confirmed.
>>689081390
Talking about adoption, a very hard process to get a child. more children means more happy families
>>689081261
are you being sarcastic or are you actually being serious
>>689081536
Edgy autistic virgin /pol/ user confirmed
>>689081471
Who is Evan and why should I care that she is a muslim women.
>>689081612
Dude, if you don't know what's going on I'm not going to spell it out for you.
>>689081587
Yeah let the kids be emotionally fucked having to see their parents die slowly to be put in a shitty system
>>689081718
Oh look, it's the "everyone I disagree with is /pol/" ad hominem.
>>689082031
Well am i right or wrong?
>>689081982
Lets see, enough to eat... a warm home... private education.
Shit home, starving and cold drafty home...
Obvious answer is Obvious.
>>689082031
>ad hominem
When did /b/ turn into Reddit?
If my only choices are a literal corporate whore and drumpf, I'll work to destroy the system from without.
>>689073947
We can't He needed California to even have a chance
>>689082143
Wrong
>>689082269
About a year ago.
>>689082200
You're literary autistic, and probably underage.
>>689082543
Hurr can't come up with a reply, fire the Autistic cannons and shoot some underage crap too.
I hate summerfags
>>689076038
Go to Scandinavia if our governments will let you in. Go break all your limbs and get fixed by a decent heathcare system, and you pay back in taxes, so no additional bills. And your wages are great
>>689082713
Oh and end up paying the lions share to the Government.
>>689082479
Sure i got some of it right :^) .Well if you're telling the truth you have horrible edgy opinions that belong on /pol/.
>/b/ making /pol/ sound sane
These are truly interesting times.
>>689082713
I wish I could move to Scandinavia but it's hard as fuck for a person from outside the EU to get there from everything I've read and been told.
>>689082836
>emoticons
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NORMIES OUT
kys
>>689082698
You're just stupid if you think letting a child see their parents die is an acceptable thing
>>689083040
We don't let them see. We explain that they can't take care of you and Mr and Mrs Warren are going to be your new parents. Also not forcing it, if your parents love you enough they would GET A JOB.
politics lmao
>>689083312
I really hope you dont think like this, this way of thinking is so emotionally bankrupt and fucked.
>>689083888
Why is it. We remove children from abusive homes. Isn't that what we should do?
>>689083888
Nice trips.
>>689084070
I'm just going to stop. That's not even the norm, seek help.
>>689078524
Healthcare sucks. I go to the doctor like once every three years and these weak fags go whenever they get a headache cuz it's free and we pay the same rates. Shits stupid. Socialism is for the weak
>>689084313
So you support letting children starve and you call me weird. You are a sick SOB
>>689084070
You need help you fucking faggot.
>>689084575
>>689084313
So you faggots want to leave children in abusive homes. Got it.
>>689073947
Easy-peasy. Just wait a bit, and when they indict Hillary and blow her campaign to smithereens, he will be the only viable candidate the DNC can float in time.
I mean, in time to lose. It's pretty much a done deal, and I do not say that with any measure of glee. Trump is coming, like it or not.
>>689084570
That's what child protective services exist . Dont even try to justify your fucked head anon
>>689084819
So you support it but don't want it to use it's full power. WOW you are a sick person. Starving is ok but no other kind of abuse.
>>689085159
Holy fuck you're too stupid to be a fuctioning adult lol
>>689085159
>>689085328
You both sound like fucking retards tbh fam.
>>689085328
You are the one that wants to pay lazy good for nothing breeders just so there kids can live in poverty.
>Speaking about emotion in the topic of politics
Get the FUCK out. Work for your cut or fucking die. Nobody wants your freeloading shit.
>>689085446
Not that fag, but people who have children should be taxed at a higher rate. Their children are a burden on society and they should shoulder more of that burden.
>>689086259
I only agree if you allow for free Sterilization.
>>689085446
This isnt even a norm.You're saying to let parents die and to let kids develop fucked rather than just handing out a few hand outs. If you're not using foodstamps to feed your kids and less importantly yourself to helpprovide a decent life, you dont let people die, you posess the kids., since they cant handle it If they're being abused you posess them too, if they're living in horrible conditions you posess them too.
>>689086375
Of course I would.
>>689073947
get her indicted...
>>689085480
Haha super edgy. Let's all go back to the dark ages. Survival of the fittest xD
>>689073947
Actually counting the votes.
>>689086433
No that isn't what I said. I said if a parent isn't working and only living off foodstamps they don't deserve kids.
>>689076038
Libertarianism is just capitalism with a different spin to make it sound like it will actually work.
Protip: it wont.
>>689086700
You litterally said to let parents die and to take kids.
>>689086725
Capitalism works, socialism always fails.
>>689086869
IF THEY DON'T WORK. I said if they are trying foodstamps is ok, but if they are bums they can starve.
>>689083007
Summer's here.
>>689086870
You can seriously look at America and think that anything is "working" here?
>>689087067
Fuck off with that meme, newfag.
>>689087116
Sure I can, Bernie didn't get the nomination so the system works
>>689086954
No literal homeless bum are responsible for kids, none. Thats a stupid extreme , but still you dont let a kid's parents fucking die for not being able to be supportive
>>689086870
socialism works far better, but it usually gets torn down so a few can have greater profits
>>689077649
>equal opportunity must mean equal individuals
Socialist here. I don't believe that. Case in point, I believe that you suffer from an extreme mental deficiency.
>>689086870
If capitalism works, then why doesn't capitalism work?
>>689085480
Doing a few chores for your mom hardly counts as working for your cut.
>>689087230
I think I just got dumber reading this post.
>>689076038
In all honesty, the united states is not a pure capitalist society. It is a mix of many systems and socialism is one of them. The platform wishes to improve upon this said system to be balanced.
Why can't we have a balanced system of both capitalism and socialism to reap the benefits of both?
>>689088401
Cause my communist boogeyman
America is about due for the Second American Revolution. Hillary is the worst candidate in American history. A corporate whore. A lying disgust cunt. She's a warmonger who will increase the debt, sign TPP, maintain the mass surveillance programs of the NSA, and allow unfettered capitalism to run rampant.
>>689088401
>
I like you. We should all be reasonable like you
>>689088658
She's more of a fascist than Trump is tbh.
>>689073947
Another berniebait thread? Awesome!
America is a neoliberal oligarchy. Businesses create the laws and control the media. Sanders wanted that to change and the system, unsurprisingly, defeated him.
>>689073947
As if the writing wasn't on the wall from the start. Bernie fanboys loved telling me that superdelegates don't matter and that being solely funded through donations was proof enough of his support and victory. And they kept on with this delusion until last month when they realised that superdelgates do matter and that upsetting the apple cart isn't a great way to win nominations. I mean, even the Greens are trying to drive Sanders supports to their cause, and when a third party is treating you like carrion you know you're fucked.
It's going to come down to Trump and Hillary and, unless she has some monumental fuck up, I'm betting Hillary is going to win. Despite the rhetoric you hear online, I think most Bernie supporters will see Hillary as the lesser of two evils and will be unlikely to waste their vote on Greens or whoever. I mean, if you listened to Bernie supporters a few months ago you'd think Bernie was a shoo-in and Hillary had no chance. How's that going?
>>689087609
>Socialist here
>I believe that you suffer from an extreme mental deficiency
By believing in socialism, means that you are the one with mental issues.
Belief<Facts
Fact is socialism/communism never worked and never will.
>>689080829
I enjoy life very much. Regardless the government isn't ruining your life, you are. I'm assuming you don't live in Iran or something. Most people are happy with life. Just edge lords like you care too much about stupid shit
>>689089441
>America is a neoliberal oligarchy
Copypasta buzzwords detected...abandon thread
>>689089441
Uh oh, here we go.
>>689088401
There is no mixed system.
It's water and oil, it won't mix.
>>689082269
LOL
>vocabulary is reddit
Wtf
>>689090118
I think the only way I could ever enjoy life and be happy is if I had so much money that I didn't even have any connection to reality anymore.
>>689090507
Muh logical fallacies is reddit.
>>689090528
Grow up, kiddo
>>689090674
I'm almost definitely older than you. Also saying "kiddo" or "kid" on 4chan is gay as fuck no matter whom you're talking to.
>>689090356
It can and it is...
If this were pure capitalism we would be a snake eating it's own tail by now.
>>689090919
>>689090870
>saying "kiddo" or "kid" on 4chan is gay as fuck
>whom
>>689090919
All means of production are in the hand of the state?
So, bad news, it isn't.
I'm amused how americans and first worlds are politically illiterated.
Maybe because you all grew up in a bubble of security and peace. Making the perfect victims of the system's leeches(socialists/communists) with their sweet-talking about a better/fairer world. Don't fall for that.
it's government 's job of any developed nation to insure the survival of its people
>>689091924
>>689091493
>acting like 3rd world cuck
I promise you, this is a grossly mixed system designed for better economic gains. Why would a system not try to evolve as this one has. Your fantasy of a pure capitalist society is false. Just take a look around and take your children out of public schools.
You can't. Hillary is better at playing than Sanders. Bow down bitches.
>>689092088
>>689092301
>acting
My father is venezuelan and his family is eating shit there.
My mother is brazilian, and we live in Brazil. We get buttfucked by the socialist/communist party here, not so much as Venezuela.
So we live in a very politized, very tense country and era. I have only one fucking fantasy. A world without these freaking thieves and leechers.
>Your fantasy of a pure capitalist society is false. Just take a look around and take your children out of public schools.
Sorry but your lenninism is strong. You acuse me of having a fantasy. But capitalism is real since the dawn of manking. Whereas socialism/communism is forced down our throats.
>>689092964
>>689092353
>>689090081
>Fact is socialism/communism never worked and never will.
No one's talking about communism. Please try to keep up. Also, socialism has worked, is working, and will work. Just because you believe otherwise does not change this fact. After all, belief < fact.
>>689094248
>>689094248
Socialism = Means of production in the hand of the state
Communism=Means of production in the hand of the people
Educate yourself.
North Korea isn't a good country.
>>689094412
>>689094640
>>689076038
So why are Denmark and Norway some of the happiest countries on earth?
>>689094623
>Socialism = Means of production in the hand of the state
>social
>state
>Communism=Means of production in the hand of the people
>which explains why every communist country is state-run
Kek
>>689094908
They are not socialist countries.
They made up their money thru trading and marketing, making them capitalists.
There is private property and means of productions there.
Their politicians are just inclined to social issues. That doesn't means they are socialists.
Educate yourself.
>>689095200
They are social democracies, which is what Sanders is advocating.
>>689095322
>>689095200
>>689095082
>>689094908
>>689095322
Don't let that sugar talking bait you.
Norway, for example, have a total population of 5 million people. That's not even close to NYC.
What "works" for them won't work for USA.
Social-democracy is just a buzzword created too fool political illiterate people.
I feel the consequences of said "social-democracy"
>>689095754
>I feel the consequences of said "social-democracy"
How so?
>>689095082
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism
Simple Definition of socialism
: a way of organizing a society in which major industries are owned and controlled by the government rather than by individual people and companies
A little education won't hurt.
First there is socialism, then it "blossoms" to communism, where the state is dissolved.
>>689095824
Venezuela with Chavez and Maduro
And Brazil with Lula and Dilma.
>>689095754
Why can't you take a system that's applied to 5 million and implement a larger version, whether it's just a scaled up version or a series of that version multiplied several times with intermediaries to ensure adherence to the effective standards?
>>689096055
Those countries would be shitholes no matter who was in charge.
>>689095949
>communism, where the state is dissolved.
Which, btw, never happens.
>>689096143
They tried that in Brazil. Now we are drowning in debt and crime.
Because a larger population means a greater number of lazy people who try to scam the system. Either being politicians stealing money or a dipshit trying to get free stuff.
>>689096190
In matter of fact. Brazil's money was more valued than the Dollar in the 90's with a more centrist government. It all went to the shitter when the social/communist party saw said grow and economical boom and tried, and managed to take the power.
>>689095949
>an archaic definition thought up by a right-wing revolutionary who didn't even follow his own definitions for the government he advocated that had since been refuted
Sounds like Merriam-Webster needs to join us in the 21st century.
>>689096896
>Brazil's money was more valued than the Dollar
Gibberish
>>689074618
>Get Group of several people (Prefebly 20-29 people) willing to kill themselves for a political cause
>MAKE SURE THAT THE GROUP IS DIVERSE THIS WILL BE IMPORTANT TO MAKE THE DEBATES SEEM LIKE A RACE WAR OR SOME SHIT LIKE THAT
>Convince group to cause a distraction and have them start a protest so you can get in with a suicide bomb vest.
>Soon as Hillary and Trump end up debating have another part of that group start a protest in the middle of the debate, have them rush the stage.
>Soon as the secret service has their hands full with them rush up to the stage and shout out something like "FOR AMERICA" and blow yourself up with Hillary and Trump in front of you.
If that fails sniping is also an option but hey I'm just some asshole who enjoys running his mouth for hahas on the internet so what would I know about killing two corrupt politicians using the politics of fear for corporate murrica?
>>689097439
Sounds like the first world with it's PC movement, "intellectual" progressiveness are just asking to be buttfucked too thanks to a generation of whiners who think they are better than everyone.
>>689097682
Check it up http://www.tradingeconomics.com/brazil/currency
>>689098037
you are on a list now, kiddo
>>689076521
The biggest problem with socialism for me is that it is EXTREMELY easy to cheat the system. A large amount of people would just do dick all and get the same as everyone else. It would fuck everything up.
>>689098275
Welp, looks like I am.
Guess I'm going to be waiting for the party van now aren't I?
>>689098743
You just have to make working mandatory for people who are able.
>>689097439
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_mode_of_production
Here.
You can't change the definition of something IT'S CREATOR defined. Just because it hurt your feelings. And mess up an agenda.
>>689074739
Honestly they're both bad.
Pretty much half the shit Trump says Hillary has already done if it isn't everything.
>>689099484
Agreed.
>>689098763 now you are ;)
>>689099610
Sure I am :^)
man who even care. the dream is over let it go already
>>689099036
>you can't do that thing that happens all the time
Words change meanings all the time through usage and practical application. Evolution, for example, used to mean giraffes having babies with slightly longer necks because the parents stretched theirs to reach higher food. Do you think that's still the meaning?
With greater understanding comes redefinition by necessity. With stagnation comes you.
>>689098150
lolwut
>>689073947
You can't. You could encourage protests at her rallies and at the DNC. Start riling people up and encourage them not to fall in line behind Clinton. Keeping the democratic party split is the only chance.
>>689073947
There is one sure way
Murder her before the convention
>>689100850
>With stagnation comes you.
We reached the ad hominen so soon?
Anyway, you can use your sweet,fancy words, allegories and all.
Pointing to the sky and saying it's red won't change it.
Somethings aren't meant to change, blue, for example. Laws of the physics. And the definitions of things that already are well-defined, by it's creator for God-sake. It's like the creator of the coffee machine saying it's a coffee machine and you "progressive" guys saying it's a fridge.
>>689100951
If you are about the Real-Dollar stuff, just click on historical tab and put on MAX.
>>689101033
this
that and voting third party
>>689098934
Well duh. Of course you have that.
That just makes it a little harder to cheat the system. Still pretty easy. Unless you have a large and strong government. You need big brother.
>>689081869
Ah, the old "everyone knows" fallacy. "everyone knows america is bad" I've heard it before. Still bs.
>>689100850
>Evolution, for example, used to mean giraffes having babies with slightly longer necks because the parents stretched theirs to reach higher food. Do you think that's still the meaning?
Erm. It still is. It's called Darwinism. And we got proof on that.
But oh, must be the giraffe president taking longer necks from the longnecked giraffes and giving it to the shortnecked ones, right?
That term has a meaning, changing it because of some "greater understanding" while the facts and the authors of said term says otherwise is called forging.
>>689102425
>It still is.
Gtfo
good people who i want to be president:
bernie sanders
elizabeth warren
jill stein
jesse ventura
vermin supreme
bad people who should never have a lick of responsibility or power:
donald trump
hillary clinton
bill "welfare reform" clinton
barack "droney mcspypants" obama
john "habsburg heir #1" kasich
ted "habsburg heir #2" cruz
marco "habsburg heir #3" rubio
joe "touchy-feely writey-stealy" biden
>People unironically want an honest communist over a dishonest capitalist
well it is summer
>>689102845
he's a milktoast scandanavian reformer asshole
make a safety net again, get the american system closer to what it was right after world war two
>>689102788
Fuck Warren. She was my girl until she endorsed Hillary.
>>689102738
ev·o·lu·tion
ˌevəˈlo͞oSH(ə)n/
noun
1.
the process by which different kinds of living organisms are thought to have developed and diversified from earlier forms during the history of the earth.
synonyms: Darwinism, natural selection
"his interest in evolution"
You want to change the meaning of evolution to what?
Oh... wait.
>>689101621
>points out that your arguments are stagnant
>while also addressing the argument
>ad hominem
Try again.
>well-defined
Except that it's not. It had been defined n different ways by different people. That's not very well-defined at all. And even today, obviously, it's meaning is a matter of debate.
>>689103118
hmmm true
>>689103118
If you were a party leader you wouldn't support your nominee in the general?
and it is the general kiddo. Bernie has been out for weeks if not months
>>689103346
Now I know why your fixation in changing the meaning of well described words.
>>689103346
Define stagnant. Btw you used it to look down to me, characterizing an offense.
>>689103203
>genetic mutations occur by animals physically stretching
Stop trying.
>>689103686
I'd have felt differently had she waited until after the convention.
>>689103686
>ctrl-F
>five uses of the word kiddo in this thread
Is that all you, or do we have multiple cringy faggots in here?
>>689103346
okay, well if communism means steal-and-murderland, and capitalism means profits-above-peopleland, i'm going to advocate for a new system I call "vote style work togetherism" okay does that work for you? or do you really need to feel superior to people, to look down on people, to tell them what to do?
no? do you wanna work together, vote style?
vote to work together. vote for vote style work togetherism now!
VOTE STYLE WORK TOGETHERISM NOW
VOTE STYLE WORK TOGETHERISM NOW
VOTE STYLE WORK TOGETHERISM NOW
>>689103789
Still not talking about a well-defined word. Like ad hominem. Which is an argument against the person rather than their own argument. Since I addressed your argument, it's not an ad hominem. Our are you going to say that that definition is wrong, too?
>>689103928
Learn how genetics work. If a species find themselves in need of something, some of their offspring will have slightly changed characteristics to adapt do the world. Both Lamarck and Darwin were correct. https://www.geneticliteracyproject.org/2014/03/06/was-lamarck-right-groundbreaking-epigenetic-research-suggests-we-might-inherit-learned-traits-but-how/
Sorry, you should know that, instead of being stagnated.
>>689104488
>physically stretching constitutes a trait
This is why I said you should stop trying.
>>689104423
Not my argument. But myself, as you could only address to both my point-of-view or my argument.
But nice move trying to change the subject.
It's well defined by the very man who created, Marx, and Lenin, who put it on use. So there is no need to change it.
>>689104663
No, but it would pass that "necessity" first saw by the last generation to their offspring. So stretching mean that longer necks are desired. So more and more giraffes born with them, thus making the survival of the species possible.
>>689104488
>>689104663
i just read all that shit you two are so far removed from your original point I'm just stunned. anyway, if that's the definition of socialism, we just have to use a new word
vote style work togetherism!
THE CAPITALIST SYSTEM IS CORRUPT
WE ARE KEPT WITHOUT
WE MUST VOTE
WE MUST WORK
VOTE STYLE WORK TOGETHERISM
>>689104787
>defined the very man who created it
>Marx
>AND Lenin
>who added his own spin on it
See what I mean?
VOTE STYLE WORK TOGETHERISM NOW
>>689105757
lenin crafted a crazy intricate democratic system known as the soviets which were discarded in stalins time
>>689073947
the DNC would be wise to pick him rather than Hillary because he's bound to run third party and draw more votes away from Hillary thus giving trump the win. He's polling higher than trump, too
>>689105468
Real style work togetherism has never been tried.
>>689105757
Lenin just put it on work.
And well, coming from marx, who never worked. forced his wife to work to bring some money to the house, while he cheated on her and made a son out of marriage, who he forced his best friend to assume. Welp, that shit didn't gonna work for sure. and didn't
>>689106040
WE MUST TRY AGAIN, FOR CAPITALISM AT ITS HEART LIES A CONFLICT UNENDING. THE VIOLENCE OF CAPITALISM APPARENT AND EVERLASTING. OUR CONFLICT, WHILE JUST, MERELY MIMICKS THAT VIOLENCE IF IT CONTINUES TO FAIL TO BRING ABOUT VOTE STYLE WORK TOGETHERISM
VOTE STYLE WORK TOGETHERISM NOW
Reminder that bernouts are welcome into the arms of kek's one and only son Donald J Trump. The democrats have betrayed you and undermined the democratic process by implementing superdelegates specifically to stop populist candidate from obtaining the nomination.
>>689106139
Lenin applied it, saw that some aspects wouldn't work, so he changed it, as I said earlier, by necessity.
>>689106454
i'm an accelerationist. i don't believe things get better a little at a time. i think they get better all at once. because things have gotten so bad that nobody can stop ignoring how bad things are
so you must vote to make things worse, to throw wrench after fatted, white, privileged, parasitic inbred wrench into the works of a corrupt system until the blood runs over the pages of history again and times may change
>>689087116
America does work pretty well. What groups have problems out of their control? You get back what you put in.
>>689106613
Because, by the definition, Socialism doesn't work. Any Marxist idea or something derivative form it won't.
I know Lenin tried to statize everything, but saw that it would end bad, and isn't possible/viable, tried to change it to save it. But still went downhill, even more with Stalin.
>>689106454
i'm an accelerationist. i don't believe things get better a little at a time. i think they get better all at once. because things have gotten so bad that nobody can ignore how bad things are
so you must vote to make things worse, to throw wrench after fatted, white, privileged, parasitic inbred wrench into the works of a corrupt system until the blood runs over the pages of history again and times may change
>>689089441
Because Business is known for being liberal.
>>689090528
Not gonna happen. Go ahead and off yourself.
>>689091493
Central planning an economy has NEVER worked. Supply and demand is inherently effecient and self correcting.
>>689086870
I'm going to address why this seems so, but in actuality with a proper conception of socialism and communism, is incorrect
capitalism only claims to work for some, so technically if only 1 actor remains, that is a valid outcome.
communism and socialism have to maintain the inverse, total work; if even 1 actor perishes, that is an "ideologically invalid" outcome from this perspective.
but if we take a new perspective and instead work towards these goals of total work and communism and socialism as utopian ideals understanding that although we will never reach them, they may always stand as guideposts towards which we can orient our actions.
the profit of labor is use value. the things we make for ourselves together is the profit.
>>689091636
You mean "ensure".
And no, only survival of society and people in general is important. Stupid and lazy should get little support.
>>689107761
I don't have it in me, sadly. Can't even tell you how many times I've sat there with my .357 in my mouth, hammer cocked, trying to will myself to just do it.
>>689108108
>never worked
it was attempted on 1978 computers of foreign make
if it was done on global systems using the existing capitalist infrastructure it would be very simple to manage a surplus on a variety of goods to sustain life, educate... the basic rights. on top of that, we can create a system of wealth and opulence but i think we should create this base level of living and fostering first.
for instance, i believe medical staff should have luxurious benefits in whatever system that develops, but its looking like highly complex systems might be doing all the doctor work in the centuries to come
>>689108542
the stupid and lazy should get enough support to become smart and hardworking and little else
niggers
>>689073947
By not downloading the same fucking gif twice, you fucking cancerous swine.
>>689110415
hay man giphy calls all their gifs giphy.gif, what am i suppose to do rename each one?
>>689076038
ideologies are idiotic. Capitalism and democracy has led to fascism.
>My vote matters
>remember bush
The old man would get killed the moment he was a threat to big business.
>>689086870
You're fucking retarded. Maybe without a federal bank. Maybe.
>Implying that we have any say in this
>Implying that this election and the elections prior to this weren't completely rigged because the system doesn't work and presidents are just Muppets other rich people buy out to forward their political agenda.
>>689112074
This.
Anything else and you're delusional.
>>689112074
we would if we weren't all cucks for the government. we are all too fat and lazy to do shit about it.
>>689112424
last i checked we still have our guns. better do something before they are gone.
>>689073947
quit being delusional
>>689112447
Really its the powerless feeling that so crippling. Even a genuine cause would get contorted by the media. Pay a few people to loot and st.louis all over again.
>>689111179
that there was a chancellor to appoint hitler to anything like dictator was probably the first sign that germany wasn't really an egalitarian democratic state
>>689112686
Why is it that guns seem to be THE single most important issue to so many people? I'm a gun owner myself so I'm not asking to be a douchebag, it's a genuine question.
>>689113264
the great questions of our time will not be answered by philosophy and speeches but by iron and blood
>>689113264
In a futile attempt to try to defend ourselves in case the government goes all totalitarian on us and we have guns. But not anywhere near enough to defend from the military, police or otherwise.. rednecks and all gun nuts alike might put up a fight but we ain't got shit on actual artillery.
>>689113264
im pretty serial about the guns thing with socialism
every person needs to be part worker, part soldier and part legislator for it to work right
>>689113496
Full circle. Fucking talking monkeys.
>>689113612
> implying the militaryfags would kill civilians
>>689073947
Get her arrested for voter fraud in every state (Seriusoly, lik 3 Million "Lost" votes in California alone), her husband illegally campaigning too close to polling places and/or indicted for her deleted e-mails?
>>689114080
the cops would/do
>>689113612
It will be much more subtle. We will slowly give away all our rights out of fear. the people with guns will be labeled terrorists or some shit,
>>689077936
I see what you're saying, but computers are a stupid example.
Compared to 1990, computers now are capable of way more, you can get them way cheaper, and or society has an increased reliance on them.
>>689090130
>stop using words I don't understand.
>>689114080
they've had good practice overseas.
>>689075071
saved
>>689081471
surprised a muslim wants people gang raped?
#Can'tStumpTheTrump
>>689092964
>Brazilian
This is an American website. Kindly fuck off.
>>689115615
killing a raghead that doesn't speak your own language is a bit different than hearing little stacy scream as her mother is taken away and shot or raped, or whatever it is they do over there
>>689115931
>This is an American website. Kindly fuck off.
>American
>Brazil is in America
South America
:^)
This site also belong to us
If you like bernie you really are a fucking autist. To think what he wants could work means you have zero understanding of any economics. Do you choose to ignore that socialism has never worked?
>>689116178
Get some perspective. You sound fucking insane.
>>689091086
>>689091510
>>689115615
underrated post
>>689116199
South America is not America, shit skin.
>>689116994
It's. Deal with it.
>>689073947
>>689117442
According to every fucking poll, Trump would have a lot more trouble with Bernie than he would with Hillary.
>>689117864
Uh oh, are your make-believe statistics and inflated opinions being compared to reality rustling your johnsons?
>>689074618
Lol your house is still getting raided by swat T some point.
All deez opinions... no citations. Fresh summer rain.
>>689118091
What?
>>689076521
Do you think these rent seekers would want to be forced to work and have absolutely no right to private property?
>>689119005
I'm so sorry. I shouldn't have assumed you may actually be an intelligent Sanders supporter.
>>689088401
Moat people are either too stupid or too smart for dialectics
>>689088658
Nigga I hate to break it to you but most of that shit has/is/already happened.
Clinton for 8 more years of neoliberalism and Saudi dicksucking
>>689119486
The post didn't even make sense, faggot.
>>689120583
Not the first Bernie supporter I've met with poor reading and comprehension skills.
So tired of the Bernie Sanders cult
>>689120939
"But it's socialism! Not communism!"
I guarantee they all have to use spellcheck every time they try to spell those two words.
>>689088401
Communism
>>689075071
>he has a chance
Topkek
>>689077936
Trickle down is working great in Kansas right now
>>689073947
Here's an idea:
Once you get there, don't chimp out like you faggots did in San Jose. Maybe then you'll be seen as credible, and not animals.
>>689120775
Dare I ask who your candidate is/was?
>>689089441
Then I should thank the corporate evil businesses for passing a law that lets me get married
>>689122090
Can't tell if you're being sarcastic here, but living just outside of the KC region, yes, it is, tbqh
