the government-controlled media is using it to distract us from some illegal shit theyre doing, its a pointless issue, trannies have been using public restrooms for years and nobodys cared
There are MEN and there are WOMEN. It's that simple... there is no transgender, there is no whatever the fuck else. There are only MEN, WOMEN, and MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE. HOW this has even become such a huge issue is beyond me.
I really don't care because they just want to use the restroom and leave. It's really not a big deal unisex bathrooms are perfectly fine and if someone transgender wants to use a certain restroom it shouldn't be a problem.
If men can just decide one day that they're women and everyone is required to accept that, then can white people simply declare themselves to be "a black person trapped in a white person's body" and qualify for minority status in schools, etc?
Serious question. If I can decide my gender is wrong, then why not my race?
I'm not religious, hate religion, I'm all from liberty, freedom and all that shit.. but I just can't take shit like this.
If you have a penis, you're a fucking male, deal with it. If you have a vagina, you're a woman.
Now, I accept that someone might be mentally ill or have a hormonal disbalance which makes them feel like they're of the opposite gender, but you have gender surgery for that crap.
Fuck the restroom crisis shit. This kind of stuff only happens in USA. Feminism, fat "beauty", sick fetishes, gender shits (agender, trans, genderfluid and all that bullshit).
tl;dr, cock = male, vagina = woman. If you feel otherwise, visit your psychiatrist.
When I was little everybody was always like "what if everyone did that?" If everyone is gay then the human race is doomed. You are either male or female, you can wish you were something but until you get a full genital swap and change hormones and shit you are what you are. Even then they are a disgrace and should kill them selves.
The fact that this is a valid question now is fucking disappointing.
you know how long the lines would be and how dirty it would get from all of the disgusting females?
Girls bathrooms (at least in my experiences) are way dirtier and in general more disgusting than the boys restroom. unisex bathrooms would just be disruptive and unnecessary.
>when Richard Spencer asked the feminist bothering him to explain why he's not a black lesbian
Don't we have the consequences of inducing horrific war in the middle East to worry about or the fact that out economy is literally unavoidably going to hard crash in our lifetime. To the point where people will be starving in the streets.. Or something.
But yeah, trannies want to get off in the bathrooms or whatever.
I'm a normal heterosexual male, and if this becomes an epidemic I'll be using female bathrooms. So I feel more comfortable, clean and safe. Thanks a pantload to the special needs community
You know what, whatever. I'm a guy so it doesn't affect me if women get assaulted in their own bathrooms. Women have asked to be equal so now they get a nice slice of apathy pie that all men get.
I don't understand why it's an issue in the first place
You've got police officers patrolling toilets to check if you've got a dick or a pussy?
As long as you don't disturb anyone I don't see why there's an issue
>today's restroom crisis
There isn't one. If a fucking man or woman can't tell that they are a man or women, they need to be on anti-depressants and in a program for mental evaluation.
Fuck transgenders, they think theyre the opposite sex trapped inside their body. why cant they be grateful of who they are and leave the rest of society out of their weird shit. I dont want my kids to grow up in a world like this. Just last week a buddy of mine was in a club dancing with someone who looked like a pretty girl 7/10 but later found out after they had made out and gotten a bj from her that it was a guy who was trans. Why would they try to fucking scar people like that? Fuck them
>Or i will start going to women's bathroom, it's cleaner.
Was a custodian. I can 100% confirm that you are wrong.
HURR DURR MEN PISS ON THE SEAT!!!!
Women piss all over the rim, shove foul smelling bloody tampons into sanitary bins inches away from your face, smear makeup on fucking every surface, throw garbage in the toilets, and leave toilet paper EVERYWHERE!
why should the majority of the public have to be inconvenienced for a tiny, tiny minority of mentally ill people who want to act like they are something they can never be.
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, not the other way around.
I can't wait until the laws are all changed! Now I will be able to go into the women's bathroom and rape everyone! The only thing stopping me right now is that damn pesky force field that keeps people from entering the wrong bathroom!
Dear North Carolinians, MIssissippians, etc.,
Apparently the Indoor Outhouse is a relatively recent addition to Southern "culture", and you're having some issues regarding the norms which have dictated their use in other states for this past handful of generations. Here are some helpful tips for for acclimating to indoor plumbing-equipped restroom use.
1) It's not necessary, in fact, it's strongly discouraged, that you actually remove any of your clothing while using a public restroom. Most garment manufacturers add features which make evacuation possible without being naked.
2) You've been sharing public restrooms with trans people without incident for your entire life. In fact, There is not a single, solitary, documented instance of a trans person attacking anyone else in a public restroom (only several accounts of the opposite occurring).
3) If you, even for the briefest, most accidental second, catch a glimpse of someone else’s genitalia in a public women’s restroom, you’re doing something horribly, horribly wrong. Pleases get up off the floor and re-evaluate your chosen course of action for this attempt at using the facilities.
4) Voyeurism, Indecent Exposure, and Sexual Assault are already illegal nationwide. Anyone who was going to enter a ladies’ room for nefarious purposes will be neither aided nor hindered by a law aimed at inconveniencing/endangering trans people by forcing them to use bathrooms they don’t look the part for. That "Ladies" sign on the door is not a binding contract, nor does it erect a magical criminal barrier.
Hope this helps your transition to life in the 19th, 20th and 21st centuries. Baby steps!
I hear you there. Why the fuck do they start this bullshit campaign when it wasn't really an issue. And then normal, non dramatic people with a logical opinion are the bad ones cause we have our views against it. 90% are fucking kids with no life experience who are heavily influenced by the internet and too fucking scared to face reality. And even then, keep your abomination fetish to your God damn self. THEY ARE NOT HEROS!
>government controlled media
The only "people" who give a shit are the subhuman trash in the Republican Party who have no choice but to court Evangelicals, Baptists, Klansmen and all sorts of other lunatics who actually care about what gays, trannies, atheists, etc. are doing and where.
Literally, FUCK ALL REPUBLICANS.
So what happens with people that are born intersex. Based on statistics there are more people born with some form of intersex than there are transgenders.
>>inb4 durhur stupid shit.
Don't really give a shit. I don't have such an extreme perspective as>>684197509, but I can see where he's coming from. This Bathroom-Bullshit has no effect on my life whatsoever, so I really don't see why I should care.
Why are you feeding your child in a filthy bathroom? Think about it, urine vapor and microscopic fecal matter of strangers in hovering in the air. Disgusting. Would you eat in a pubic restroom? Why would you feed your delicate child there.
What would you do if a pony used it hooves to take your penis away from you (as punishment for not being a loyal Brony)? It does so by using its two fore hooves to clamp over your dick and rip it off197153
white knightfag detected.
Tits or gtfo makes sense in this scenario as we want to check whether people have dicks or not before they go to restrooms, so Tits or GTFO>>684200171
I thought one of the basic principles of Murica was to enable religious minorities to be free from persecution and practice their religion the way they want
Can't other types of minorities enjoy the same rights?
What would you do if a pony used it hooves to take your penis away from you (as punishment for not being a loyal Brony)? It does so by using its two fore hooves to clamp over your dick and rip it of
You're fucking MORONS.
1. Discriminatory legislation is Constitutionally illegal due to the 14th Amendment already.
2. There are already trannies using restrooms throughout the US.
3. Tyranny of the Masses is not tolerated. If "what people want" was a primary consideration of US legislation, then several Southern fuckwit states would already have re-instated slavery, instead of just engaging in voter suppression and bankrupting the shit out of their states.
the outage is kind of pointless. there is only outrage because people can 'see' that there is a 'degenerate' in the bathroom but if the same person was in a bathroom full of predatory gays they wouldn't know any different even though they would be subject to the same 'danger'. people just want something to complain about
Whats the whole deal about transgender people wanting their own restrooms? They had their own for a long time
Thank you for proving my point that men and women cannot be equal. Honestly who fucking cares what restroom a person uses. I regularly go into women's restrooms just because of the shorter line.
>illegal due to the 14th Amendment already.
What section and line mentions trannies specifically?
Why was the 14th amendment adopted?
Why do you suck your community college professor's dick so often?
I love it.
Men's bathrooms are nasty as fuck.
The next time I've got to take a dump at Target, I'm sure as hell going to identify as a woman for about 20 minutes or so.
And there's nothing they can do to stop me.
Restroom identification is completely blind to your IDENTITY. the only thing that restrooms identify is your BIOLOGY or your PHYSICAL ASSIGNMENT.
If youa re ASSIGNED OR BIOLOGICALLY MALE.. YOU USE THE MALE RESTROOM.
What you 'are on the inside' is completely irrelevant since bathroom segregation has to do with your parts, not your personality.
Restrooms are an outdated concept imposed by the patriarchy.
We should all just piss and shit wherever we want.
Are idiots blind or are they just screaming while covering their ears and not realizing this. There are more intersex people statistically than there are trans people. WTF.
Meanwhile in Chicago (pic very related)
You do realize it isn't illegal to go into the bathroom that doesn't correspond to your gender, right? People are raising a stink over literally nothing. In Houston the mayor tried to get a bathroom ordinance passed that would force businesses to allow transgender people to use the bathroom of their choosing. Something that wasn't even an issue and no one even thought about.
This. The US gov. is planning some shit to happen. Probably another staged shooting, or they might be trying to take out Trump. Feels bad man.
1. Read it and find out, faggot.
"Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
This is known as the Equal Protection Clause, and it makes the abridgment of laws (sectionizing groups by preference is basic discrimination), rights and privileges of any person or grouping of persons ILLEGAL.
2. We fought a big fucking war over it. It's seeming like high time we did so again, just to show you whiny cunts where you stand vs where WE THE PEOPLE do.
3. I attended high school, community college, a university and finishing vocational schooling for my profession. I can assure you, I did not fellate any of my professors. I'm just a fuckload smarter than you.
Why? Before it was illegal for a pervert/rapist to go to the ladies room. Now, anyone can say "I identify as a woman" and abuse the new "right" for their faggotry.
If "what people want" is not the primary consideration of US legislation please explain what it is.
PS The only legal process for altering the constitution is "what people want."
Its not a crisis, its called a "wedge issue" and its what the political establishment (and the media outlets that work for them) use to get people to obsess over inane shit and fight among themselves so that they'll keep supporting their respective political parties rather than pulling together and going after the corrupt incompetent twats running a broken system.
>its what the political establishment (and the media outlets that work for them) use to get people to obsess over inane shit and fight among themselves
You misspelled "Democrats and the media outlets that work for them."
None of this stupid horseshit was an issue when Bush was in office. With Obama, it's nothing but.
"Abuse the right"...
This hilariously retarded strawman again?
Look: sexual assault, taking pictures of others in the restroom, rape, voyeurism, etc. are ALREADY ILLEGAL AT ALL TIMES IN ALL PLACES. It's 100% pointless to legislate anything to "stop" crimes from happening where, statistically, they don't.
Republicans are just really good at wasting a lot of money and dealing with "issues" that don't exist. See also "voter fraud".
No. No the hell you aren't. Your regurgitating the same shit that ill-informed cucklords like you have been spouting out for years.
Like I said trannies are not mentioned. The amendment was only passed to protect people of different race or national origin.
Stop trying to bastardize the Constitution to protect you and the other mentally ill. You have no right to impose this faggotry on the rest of the 99% of normal people.
Being transgender is a mental illness, though. It's classified as gender dysmorphia. Get help through your therapist, your friends, anyone. Help does not mean killing yourself, it means being a functioning human being.
Of course it was, gay marriage was the wedge issue they were using before this. Then the supreme court got involved and they had to find something new to bitch about and tranny bathrooms is the best idea they could come up with to keep the gays and social conservatives at each others throats.
The best way to answer the question would be to reference writings and records of the people who made the amendment and attempt to determine how they intended it to be used.
If even 99% of people wanted rape to be legal, do you think rape would be made legal? Or Slavery? Or lynching gays?
Of course not. Because that's not how we operate. WE are better than that, even if an increasingly large group of retards in this nation are trying to fight against us.
1. 14th amendment was about race not mental illnesses that we are forced to treat as normal.
2. And they do it quietly without making a scene. What people are suggesting with unisex bathrooms would start a whole dilemma that is unnecessary because like you said, they already go to the restroom of their choice.
3. If it matters that much to that person then they should just boycott that place of business and see how that works out, maybe the owners will change their minds, maybe they wont. That is basic capitalism and how this country is supposed to be run.
The 14th amendment was intended to grant citizenship to recently freed slaves.
There are no protections for mentally ill people who think they're a dog, cat, or the opposite gender.
That's because Bush was keeping us thoroughly distracted with the "War on Terror," "War on Drugs," "War on Education," and so on, bankrupting the country while insuring no one said a word about our human rights violations abroad. Your civil liberties and such were being severely undercut, but you were more concerned with chicken wings, sports, and bullshit. Kind of like today, really.
All in the name of 'security.'
Sorry, I mean't dysphoria, but here's the definition for you.
"the condition of feeling one's emotional and psychological identity as male or female to be opposite to one's biological sex."
Tell me that's not trans gender
If a man thinks he is a dog, he is mentally ill.
If a man thinks he is a woman, he is mentally ill.
If a woman thinks she is a tree, she is mentally ill.
If a woman thinks she is a man, she is mentally ill.
>Logic 1, Libtard 0
Man accused of choking girl, 8, in restroom of South Loop restaurant
I know the definition shithead
even psychiatrists don't believe it's a mental illness
you're just butthurt people don't want to conform to your stupid unsustainable conservative worldview
Some faggots are butthurt about people not playing along with their delusions. And some even bigger dipshits decided bathroom segregation is serious business and passed a bill that's fucking ridiculous to enforce.
The whole thing just has me asking why the fuck we even bother to segregate bathrooms in the first place.
1. The constitution is dictated by a super majority of the population.
2. This is dictated through a combination of the constitution and elected officials.
3. Same as 2
To answer your question yes those all would be legalized.
Alright so riddle me this.
If I identify as Napoleon Bonaparte dress up like Napoleon and demand that people address me as Emperor, I'm crazy right?
But if I identify as a woman, dress up like a woman, demand that people address me as a woman, use artificial hormone treatments to reprogram my endocrine system and pay a doctor to mutilate my genitals......then I'm sane.
Why is one delusion invalid, while the other is?
I AM AN INSECURE HETEROSEXUAL
I WILL SINGLE OUT AND SIZE UP ANY IDEOLOGY THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN MINE AND FAGSPLAIN MY WAY INTO BEING RIGHT
BECAUSE I AM AN EXPERT
I AM A MEDICAL DOCTER AND TRANNIES ARE MENTALLY ILL BECAUSE I SAY SO
Nigger I'm 19 and I want a world where people like you don't exist. Not because you're potentially trans, but because you're an asshole. Tell me the name of a psychiatrist who doesn't believe it's a mental illness. source it for me.
Regardless, I'm not heterosexual. I'm bi :p besides, I'm no expert but a little thing called science tells me gender dysphoria is a mental illness. You're trying to tell me 1% of the population is completely normal and in no way shape or form damaged or in need of help?
it's a really easy Google faggot
"Psychology professor Darryl Hill insists that gender dysphoria is not a mental disorder, but rather that the diagnostic criteria reflect psychological distress in children that occurs when parents and others have trouble relating to their child's gender variance. "
>then why the fuck is gender dysphoria in the DSM-5
Gender dysphoria is in the DSM 5 because the PC crowd hasn't had time to drive out the sane people. Just wait, they'll get to it.
Depression, IE being sad because your life isn't what you want it to be is a mental illness.
Wanting to chop off your genitals so that you'll feel like a pretty, pretty girl, isn't a mental illness.
21st century psychiatry ladies and gentlemen.
>gender identities bend article 14
How do you figure that? NOTHING that singles out a group of people for legislative purposes is permissible.
"transexuals can't enter the ladies room"
contextually any different from
"Blacks can't enter white supermarkets" ?
The Equal Protection Clause is pretty much airtight and in full effect with this NC bathroom bullshit. Republiniggers just want to states to have the right to disregard federal law because they have a stronger presence in state governments. It's fucking pathetic.
right, so you've got that, but I've got this:
You're telling me not feeling like your biological makeup is yours is normal?
You are simply a product of a rich society. You are only concerned about such trivial things because all of your other basic needs have been met. I bet if you were starving and had no home you wouldn't be so concerned about what clothes you were wearing.
How is it a false analogy?
Please explain your reasoning because from where I'm standing that's just a cute way of saying that you don't have a counter argument.
Why is pretending that you're Napoleon Bonaparte, or Superman, or a dolphin crazy, while pretending that you're the opposite sex is not?
They are both delusions, they are both demonstrably false. Why is one valid while the other is not?
Please explain your logic.
Psychology professor Darryl Hill insists that gender dysphoria is not a mental disorder, but rather that the diagnostic criteria reflect psychological distress in children that occurs when parents and others have trouble relating to their child's gender variance.
because you can't even talk about the topic, you have to compare it to something totally absurd
social conservatives like you are just pathetic human beings who can't accept change
So would you claim that body dysphoria in general is completely normal. that would suggest that illnesses such as anorexia or bulimia are completely normal and shouldnt be treated.
It's called using logic, trending and historic reference.
The modern Republican party is a festering disease. from 1979-present, Republicans are worthless, dangerous scum. They've NEVER contributed to anything good. They're constantly bitching about religious "freedoms" that conveniently discriminate against others and they're responsible for tons of war, deregulation, two massive economic crashes, the vast majority of the national debt and the outsourcing epidemic.
The GOP hasn't been relevant since Nixon or "good" since Eisenhower. They crapped out with the Southern Strategy and now they exist only to be national embarrassments.
>"transexuals can't enter the ladies room"
If the "transsexual" in question has a penis, was born with a penis and/or has the gender "Male" written on his birthcetificate he has nothing to do in the ladies room.
Because he is a man.
Because the room is for ladies, to give them privacy from men.
How am I guessing at their motivations?
Can you give me another reason for wearing a dress, a wig, reprogramming your endocrine system with artificial hormones and paying large sums of money to have your penis mutilated other than wanting to look like a pretty, pretty girl?
>implying I'm objecting to being transsexual/trangender
yeah i hate them. they're the worst. If you're trans and you represent all of them, they're the worst. But guess what? you don't. Trans people are often pretty chill, it's people like you who complain about "muh labels" and shit who ruin it for everyone, like feminism and all these cults.
>female privileged detected
Separate but equal didn't fly with race, so it shouldn't fly with sex. 14th amendment bitches!
Maybe women will stop being disgusting as a result of the unisex restrooms, as well as help debunk stupid myths people propagate about bathrooms.
First off anyone who thinks they're transgendered is mentally ill, and should seek physiological help.
That said I couldn't care less what bathroom they use. As long as they keep their hands to themselves, I don't see how it affects me in the slightest.
>because you can't even talk about the topic, you have to compare it to something totally absurd
Its called "Reductio Ad Absurdum" and its one of the most common means of philosophical analysis.
You take a position, reduce it to its core components and demonstrate how those components may support an absurd conclusion thus proving that the initial position is logically flawed.
Its you who have repeatedly failed to give any sort of justification or logical counter argument.
So once again.....
What logical difference is there between a delusion that you are Napoleon Bonaparte and a delusion that you are the opposite sex that renders one insane and the other sane?
If you can't even make an attempt at justifying your position then its generally a pretty clear indicator that you're wrong and just too pigheaded to admit it.
I don't need to give any kind of counter argument
none of you faggots can prove that being transgendered is a mental illness
you are committing the fallacies here
don't fucking lecture me on debate protocol
more seriously why do american public restrooms suck. like seriously a 4 foot skimpy dividing wall and a door with like a 1/2in. gap on both sides is all that separates you from other people when you are pooping.
why can public bathrooms look more like pic related. bathrooms like this are quite common in european countries
I've always identified as a Japanese woman. I wonder if the liberals/fake-egalitarians will come out and support me by paying for surgery through GoFundMe and push for legislation permitting special bathrooms for other transracial 'blacks' like myself.
I sexually identify as a sniper. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of raining clouds of shrapnel down upon my enemies. People say to me that an Earthshaker being a sniper is impossible and I'm fucking retarded but I don't care, I'm beautiful. I'm having a laryngologist install a voice changer in me and a plastic surgeon install goggles and a sniper rifle on my body. From now on I want you guys to call me "Sniper" and respect my right to hoho and haha needlessly. If you can't accept me you're a ballistophobe and need to check your MMR privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.
Pull down your pants.
Are the genitals in your pants not the ones that should be there according to your concept of your identify?
Then you're identity is demonstrably false and thus a delusion.
A woman with a penis or a man with a vagina is a contradiction in terms like a square circle.
Honestly, I'm amazed I have to prove something that's so blatantly self apparent.
The cost of manufacturing one of those euro bathrooms could be better used by having another drone delivering democracy to our less civilized enemies or another nsa server keeping tabs on our more civilized enemies .
>why can public bathrooms look more like pic related
3/4 of the public wouldn't fit into the stalls?
But it is connected in the sense that it is a mental disorder that gives the victim a negative outlook on their body. We dont accept this as normal, we provide help for the people with such conditions. And maybe the way to help trannys is by allowing them through this transition. I personally believe a mentally sane adult should be allowed to do anything to their own body that they wish.
Im not afraid of a transgender person living on earth and going about their business peacefully like the rest of the world, but i wont deny that they have something wrong in their head that gives them the belief that they are in the wrong body. It is simple if you just ignore all of the fucking brain washing youve received from all the progressives.
I sexually Identify as John Cena. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of defending my WWE championship at WWE SUPERSLAM. People say to me that a person being John Cena is Impossible and I'm fucking retarded but I don't care, You Can't See Me. I'm having Vince McMahon inject me with Hustle, Loyalty, and Respect. From now on I want you guys to call me "Champ" and respect my right to Five Knuckle Shuffle and Never Give Up. If you can't accept me you're a cenaphobe and need to check your championship privilege. Thank you for being so understanding.
>Party of Hillary and Bernie
Neither is a democrat.
Hillary is a big-business conservative.
Bernie is an economic idealist with socialist ideas
They're both a few hundred thousand times better, smarter and more qualified in every way than the Republicans are though.
You use the boys because you've got the y 'some? Whichever you look more like? But for real which one do you use in public? Curious. It says "people with this one are genetically male..."
>That's why I said it anon. 25% of these posters ITT are paid shills. No sane person believes this shit.
Tying them up here keeps them off Trump threads. I don't even like the guy, but you have to admire what he does to the Clinton/Hillary/Obama/Faux-ca-hontas crowd.
you stupid fagot, its a fucking mental illness because you cannot admit to yourself that you ought to accept reality, this is true. But its doesnt make you any less infinetely stupid for insisting to yourself that a lie is the truth, that yoou can defy biology and come up with the ultimate fallacy and tell yourself that what you are in the flesh is not the real you but what you imagine yourself to be is. Honestly that takes willpower,anything less is real life retardation when its the same fucking enbedded stupidity that would allow some fucking retard to be convinced theyre a tree or a fucking alien... Fagot retard shit brain, if youre going to be a prissy little fagot then just own it and stop convincing people deny reality, stupid gay-boy man child wearing womens clothes ftl I swear