Hi /b/, hope you're enjoying your Friday.
I'm here to answer any questions you may have about feminism and body acceptance. Ask me anything.
I don't view fat bodies as disgusting. I think we live in this toxic anti-fat world and it harms us all.
I'm hoping more and more people will break free from this idea that people have an obligation to unhealthily thin.
Starving oneself to fit an ideal is unhealthy. Obviously for some people, they are naturally thing, but most of us have to restrict calories in order to fit into an accepted BMI. This is fundamentally disordered eating, you would never see an animal deny itself food if it were hungry and access to it. It's societal driven.
>it harms us all.
Actually, fatness just harms the fatties, being kinds of filthy pigs that can't keep their top hatches closed.
Unless you mean that fat people harm me because they raise my health insurance premiums because we're lumped incorrectly into the same risk pool. Then yes, fatness harms everyone.
Are you saying that everyone who isn't morbidly obese like your "plus sised model" Whatshername Holliday are anorexic?
Being under 200 pounds isn't being anorexic or bulimic, it's being healthy.
It's not socially driven, it's a mental disorder.
Once female nature becomes popular knowledge, the white knight attitude will die and females will finally be equal. As for the person who started the thread, is a feminist really on 4chan?
I don't accept anybody. Feminism isn't about acceptance, it's about smashing the patriarchy and anything remotely male. It's about hate and nothing but hate because to achieve equality we must destroy what's holding us back. And that kind of hate is justified.
Not OP but I love me some feminism
I think sexualisation is misunderstood and taken way out of proportion.
People are sexy, be it male, female whatever you're into. Seems stupid to deny that
Exploitation on the other hand ain't great. Treating people like objects to be used.
Advert saying she's sexy vs I'm sexy.
I must say, for a completely cancerous fuck who has no social skills and instead relies on her tumblrina friends for moral support about her morbidly obese body, you are quite entertaining.
I'd like to asses your base knowledge to see if you can even begin to answer some of the most tough doubts of mine.
So, first of all: tell me a couple of issues where feminism is needed. And also tell me a couple of reasons why the counter feminism movement for men (dunno what even their name is) is needed. This is all obviously in the west.
Yes, I'm a feminist on 4chan. I'm all about touching hearts and minds. I can't change the world in my feminist bubble. I'm a social justice ACTIVIST. I put myself out there and bring feminism to people who don't realize they need it.
most of fat fucks eat not because they feel hungry but because they have a mental disorder. And if you're gonig to compare humans to animals, then need I remind you that being fit is attractive to people not because of societal norms but because in the past, humans chose fit partners because they were the most suitable candidates for their children. It's in our genetics. Stay mad and fat.
Yeah, you have an even bigger problem. The NHS won't last for long, mate.
Question: What exactly is it that you think you're still fighting for? After all, there's absolutely nothing more legislation can accomplish to make you any more of a protected class...
inb4wagediscrimination, see this:
This entire thread is probably b8 but I'll answer anyway for shits and giggles.
That's because of evolution. In the wild an animal might not know when they'll next eat, so they've been selected to gorge themselves on any food source as much as possible. They need to build energy reserves for the tons of calories they'll be burning every day in search of further food.
Humans no longer operate under this mode. We're mostly sedentary and don't burn off the excess calories as easily as a wild animal. Yet our evolution still biases us towards excess calories by preferring energy dense foods like sugars and fats. To say we should continue this path even if its failing us is to commit the naturalistic fallacy.
As humans we can plan and rationalize our strategies in life far better than any other animal. It makes sense to deny food if we have had too much. Just like it makes sense to have self control and not get shitfaced even if there's more booze available. The Ancient Greeks knew this and said one cannot truly be free if they are a slave to their appetites.
Don't think for a second that women have emotions. Women's emotions are limited to self serving and self interest on the expense of others. Don't confuse manipulation for self interest purposes with human emotions.
That statistic doesn't count in the fact that some people do overtime, some people are new to the job, some people are inexperienced, some people have lower paying jobs, and the fact that men retire later than women do and generally work harder than women.
That statistic is incorrect. It's closer to 1 in 40 than 1 in 5.
These immigrants are there in the first place to keep government services like the NHS going. Look at western birth rates and you'll see the reason why western countries are importing humans from some of the most backwards places on earth en masses. The problem here is that these people will never be able to replace western people, they're just not good enough. And thus, your country will slowly but surely turn into a third world shithole.
Female nature only sees social status and net worth.
Only men are capable of loving someone for who they are as an individual.
Once this becomes popular knowledge, women will have their equality as white knights will cease to exist.
It started as an ironic slur because most SJWs are online slacktivists and rarely engage in serious activism like facing down water cannons and dogs. They'll bitch on the internet about identity politics (like you're doing right now) yet be comparatively silent over serious issues like war, torture, and wealth inequality. If you want to bring about the most justice and good in the world focusing on women in the first world is inefficient and wasteful. Children dying from malaria and parasites, or women being subjugated in the Islamic world, are far more important areas to prioritize
Told her I was sorry and she slapped me back so I had to hit her. Things are getting out of control here! Help!
Don't! I don't know what to do! I'm going to hit her again if you report me!
I hope this thread is a b8, every time someone tells me they are 'feminists' I just kick them in the front butt. Stupid titty animals, you where designed to be spanked, now go be a good girl
A statistic in itself isn't sexist, you have to prove that the statistic exists for a sexist reason
Example: 73 cent to every dollar
This may be true, but you need to prove that the women paid less where doing the same job at the same level of efficiency etc..
Online activism is how things get done in 2016. It isn't "slacktivism". I spend 12 hours a day blogging and debating and e-mailing politicians. I work harder than anyone.
I'm not even going to engage your Islamophobia.
OP , I've been smoking about 15 -20 cigarettes a day for the past 14 years. People say I'm unhealthy and my lungs are black and thick. But it's my life choice. Am I protected by body acceptance?
Nobody's locked out of STEM jobs.
Nobody's told to go to STEM.
Women are not prevented from signing up STEM; anyone can make that choice and some women chose not to.
What about fields like Veterinarian and Biology that are dominated by women? My father works at Levis as an engineer, and there are A LOT of women.
It seems OP refuses to reply to anyone who very clearly has proved it wrong.
Keep up the good work OP, you're only proving more to everyone here what a joke feminism is
Should the minority make everything worse for the majority for their personal causes?
For example, if I'm the fattest person on Earth and I go on a plane, I won't fit into the seat. Should I then make everyone widen the seats and render it uncomfortable for everyone except for me?
I feel triggered because my glass of camomile tea with stevia was misplaced by 2 milimeters
Meanwhile some people are getting bombed and killed on a daily basis but fuck them am I right I mean they should have had their daddies pay for their college education
What about the fact that more women graduate from high school and move on to college, and then graduate, than men do?
Do you find THAT sexist?
By the way, learn your multiplication. That's basically .6 more of a chance.
Black people should have bullet proof seats incase a white person decides to pull a Michael Brown on them.
Muslims should be strapped to their seats so they don't pull an Allahu Akbar.
Asians should have cat and dogs as an airline food options.
Lol of course people have the right to judge your choices. Judgement is basically someone's thoughts about you. If someone chooses to not shower and walk around all disheveled everyone's going to instinctively judge them as a disgusting savage. They even have the right to say they judge you as a disgusting savage.
Did you not see the video posted? Said video already destroys the wage gap myth, and even gives evidence to support it.
As for the rape thing, I'd question your stance on personally-owned firearms for protection.
The POTUS thing: Please explain why having a female president is significant in any way to female equality. Sure, we've not yet had one in the United States, but do we absolutely NEED one, just because we haven't yet? I mean, the possibility is absolutely there, it's just that we've not yet had a female candidate worth voting for.... And Hillary is probably THEE worst candidate for POTUS, let alone for first female POTUS....
I'm genuinely curious, by the way... Being a cis white male and thus ultra-privileged enough to have (though, I still haven't figured out how to use that privilege), I honestly do not know how you are feeling, so much so that you turn to rhetoric to explain manufactured woes....
>pic unrelated, again...
>that last part is litterly what i tel my mom (who is pro afirmitive action/positive discrimination) with that you are basicly saying, women (or whichever fucking group you want to promote) are so inferieur to white males that they dont just need seport. no we need to force companyies to higher these retards to make our numbers look better.
-some guy on youtube comments
Read my other reply.
A man who does overtime, has a better job, works harder, was there for longer, is reliable, and retires later WILL make more than a woman who is new to the company, isn't reliable, slacks off, works a low paying job, and retires earlier.
However, it will be the same vice-versa.
I have a question.
Why is it that just about every self-proclaimed feminist is grossly unattractive, often morbidly obese, spends all her time sitting in front of a computer eating frozen pizza, and has a habit of having unhealthy relationships with men, so now she needs to justify this by saying all men are rapist pigs?
Men have the luxury of doing more work in the workplace. Women are expected to do far more work in the home.
In her lifetime, a woman will work far more hours than a man. But women's work is unappreciated.
So just fat then.
Oh boy, a non-competitive 'fun run'.
If you like running so much, you should try it on a daily basis instead of 'when a 5k comes up'. You might actually lose that weight.
I'd like to see your sources.
By the way, more work isn't a 'luxury,' it's a burden.
Do you have some way I can message you a wall of text? It's about 8000 characters and the text limit here is 2000
1. Women have the privilege of not being required to sign up for Selective Service at age 18 in the United States of America in order to receive the benefits men receive for doing so, including the right to vote if a male immigrant, student loans, federal employment and naturalization.
2. Women have the privilege of not being conscripted in the West if a state of total war is declared by their country's government.
3. Women have the privilege of having standards lowered to suit them if and when they choose to join the military voluntarily.
4. Women have the privilege of never being required to fight as infantry on the front line if they do choose of their own free will to join the military in the UK.
5. Women have the privilege of having standards lowered to suit them if they choose to volunteer to join firefighting organizations.
6. Women have the privilege of having standards lowered to suit them if they choose to volunteer to join the Police Force.
7. Women have the privilege of having standards lowered to suit them if they choose to volunteer to join Private military forces.
8. Women have the privilege of having standards lowered to suit them if they choose to volunteer to join Private Security forces.
9. Women have the privilege of having Female Genital Mutilation be illegal but Male Genital Mutilation not be.
10. Women have the privilege of being sentenced to far less time served or a lesser punishment than a man for the same crime.
11. Women have the privilege of not being described or treated as rapists by the mainstream media when they commit statutory rape.
12. Women have the privilege of not being described as or treated as rapists by the legal system when they commit statutory rape.
13. Women have the privilege of not being described as or treated as rapists by society at large when they commit statutory rape.
14. Women have the privilege of being treated positively in the family courts.
15. Women have the privilege of being more likely to be excused of crimes due to 'mental' issues.
16. Women have the privilege of being more likely to be helped when assaulting their partner, or indeed anyone, despite who started the assault, or if they are in the right.
17. Women have the privilege of being able to murder their partner and blame him for the crime, thus ridding themselves of guilt.
18. Women have the privilege of the violence against women act.
19. Women have the privilege of being given sympathy if they murder their children.
20. Women have the privilege of being innocent until proven guilty after a sexual assault allegation.
21. Women have the privilege of not being tried in the court of public opinion.
22. Women have the privilege of receiving disproportionate funding to anti violence against women campaigns, groups, and shelters.
23. Women have the privilege of rape crisis shelters being only for women.
24. Women have the privilege of domestic violence shelters being only for women.
25. Women have the privilege of domestic violence being considered a male crime against women.
26. Women have the privilege of being less likely to be assaulted than a man.
27. Women have the privilege of being less likely to be murdered than a man.
28. Women have the privilege of being less likely to be raped than a man.
29. Women have the privilege of being more likely to be helped during an assault.
30. Women have the privilege of having their case taken more seriously by law officials by virtue of the alleged victim being female.
31. Women have the privilege of blaming inappropriate behavior on hormones.
32. Women have the privilege of rape laws being written in such a way that women cannot be perpetrators and men can only be victims of other men.
33. Women have the privilege of rape laws being written and interpreted in such a way that only women can be raped by having a negligible quantity of alcohol in their system.
34. Women have the privilege of Women-only prisons, instead of attending the same prisons as men.
35. Women have the privilege of Women-only prisons being far nicer than male prisons.
36. Women have the privilege of Men's magazines being covered or sealed but Women's magazines remaining untouched.
37. Women have the privilege of being able to speak freely and go where they please without complaint.
38. Women have the privilege of preferential treatment when pregnant, including the recognition of two lives being limited to when it benefits them.
39. Women have the privilege of accusing men of having privileges, and for that accusation to go unchallenged.
40. Women have the privilege of never being labelled as "creepy" because they are attracted to a person who does not reciprocate.
41. Women have the privilege of being consistently represented in a positive manner on television.
42. Women have the privilege of being the secondary breadwinner in a household, if at all, and to still be respected by society.
43. Women have the privilege of the definition of equality having a pro-women bias.
44. Women have the privilege of the definition of sexism applying only to women.
45. Women have the privilege of businesses which allow only female clients.
46. Women have the privilege of businesses which allow only female employees.
47. Women have the privilege of entering male-only spaces without negative repercussions.
48. Women have the privilege of having more and more organizations funded publicly and privately while those that exist for men, few that they maybe, lose most or all funding, if they receive any at all.
49. Women have the privilege of the ownership of any children they produce.
50. Women have the privilege of Female Quotas for 'good' jobs, and not for 'bad' jobs.
51. Women have the privilege of Female only short-lists when applying for political office.
52. Women have the privilege of Female only short-lists when applying for promotions within certain companies.
53. Women have the privilege of Women only prizes and awards.
54. Women have the privilege of Women only scholarships.
55. Women have the privilege of reproductive rights.
56. Women have the privilege of the existence of the Minister for Women and Equalities.
57. Women have the privilege of the existence of the U.N. Ambassador for Women.
58. Women have the privilege of being paid more for the same work.
59. Women have the privilege of being paid the same for less work.
60. Women have the privilege of mainstream media spouting lies and bullshit statistics which portray all women as perpetual victims and all men as perpetual villains.
61. Women have the privilege of sexualisation of men and boys being excused while sexualisation of women and girls is demonized.
62. Women have the privilege of toys typically associated with boys being given compulsory female-specific versions to placate feminists.
67. Women have the privilege of being far less likely to become homeless and far less likely to stay homeless.
68. Women have the privilege of being given free stuff because someone finds them attractive.
69. Women have the privilege of being considered the most valuable gender.
70. Women have the privilege of an education system tailored to suit their needs.
71. Women have the privilege of having their feelings considered at all times, and their emotional needs and depth being considered greater than that of men.
72. Women have the privilege of having a longer life expectancy.
73. Women have the privilege of never being expected to do manual labor.
74. Women have the privilege of being the minority of workplace deaths.
75. Women have the privilege of having access to contraceptive pills.
76. Women have the privilege of alimony.
77. Women have the privilege of female-specific cancers being taken more seriously than non-specific cancers.
78. Women have the privilege of having women-only spaces.
79. Women have the privilege of having women-only programmers on TV.
80. Women have the privilege of it being socially acceptable to be deceptive about their level of attractiveness.
Oh the luxury. The luxury of having a boss. Deadlines, schedules. The luxury of having to drag your ass outside the house. The luxury of having to deal with people you don't want to. The luxury of knowing that someday if you don't do things right you might lose your job. The luxury of having to fucking get a degree to get there in the first place. The luxury of having to share the money I earned with someone who claims her work is unappreciated, that her living fees aren't there at all I guess.
femanons against feminism
It's rape. It happens to people in prison. Prison unfortunately is not infallible and rapists in there don't just choose people who would "deserve" it.
For instance, a man could be falsely accused of hitting his wife, then sent to jail and get raped by some big manbutt lover, excellent soap handler. But in la-la land everyone who's there deserves it because they're all bad people who do mean things.
if anyone wants to know what was in that 160 awesome to be male list, here is number 10:
10. You’re less likely to have strangers expect you to smile – it’s so common for women that it’s sparked a widely praised art project called “Stop Telling Women to Smile.”
>having a boss
Two in this case, it seems. Work boss and home boss.
>manual labor job
>work 12 hours a day
>sit down to relax
>"where the hell where you, I need to you move this recliner you bought for me to the other room"
>"sure, but can I have 10minutes to relax first?"
>"I don't care how long you were at work, I just spent an hour trying to get the room rearranged you just need to move that recliner upstairs"
>feeling very pic related by this point
One of my mates suffers from this "luxury" too.
He works around the same amount of hours as a waiter everyday. His girl is supposed to take care of the house. Supposed to. When we get there the thing looks almost exactly the same and she's always bitching about missing some stupid fucking tv reality show. She does jack fucking shit I swear to god.
Her first job she lost in three days because she was crying (literally) about having to do something remotely similar to what her boyfriend was doing and not being paid already.
The worst thing is that she's in this stupid feminism train too.
Ask the feminists who wrote the stupid article.
A privileged cis male shit lord would deny their obvious privileges.
"Oh no, people look at me and think I look good, how can I get offended at this? I know, this must be sexism"
If I were a woman I swear I would love the fucking attention. They complain because they don't know what else to do with their lives.
Wow. I guess you can't do ANY research.
What a lot of people don't realize is that a lot of so-called female privileges are in fact a result of the patriarchy. This is why men need feminism too.
For example, the patriarchy expects men to bottle up their feelings, and views expressing emotions as something weak females should do. In a feminist society, men could share their emotions and be less likely to commit suicide.
> Yes, I'm a feminist on 4chan. I'm all about spreading hate and lies. I can't change the world in my feminist bubble. I'm a female superiority EXTREMIST. I put myself out there and bring my hate speech to people who don't realize they need it.
The patriarchy is simply what you call sexism.
Men do not benefit from Feminism because whenever they talk about their rights, you ignore them.
Women have more legal rights and privileges than men do.
Your strive for gender equality is actually a strive for gender inequality.
Men share their emotions all of the time.
But apparently anger and frustration are not valid emotions to show, as 'it might scare the wimminz'.
When men DO decided to have a cry, 5 minutes later women get on the blogosphere are cry about 'ugh where have all of the REAL men gone?'
Something is fucked here, I thinks.
Yeah it's all the big bad patriarchy man on the sky.
You know very well that you're one of the biggest reasons for men to give up. The moment we open our mouths you are the first ones to bitch, cry, moan, piss about it. So shut that cunt you have of a mouth.
just some grafitti sneaking in
question: what is your brand of feminism? by that I mean, do you equate overly sexual behavior with empowerment? Or do you see through the pop music bullshit and realize that the rich fellas paying the artists to make that smut benefit from making Beyonce teach girls that as long as they're sexy and frequently sexual they are important and powerful?
He should've beat the shit out of that fuck bag a longggg time ago, if u hit ANYONE expect to be hit back.
N yes I have a girlfriend(4 girlfriends tbh) n yes I hit ALL of them if they hit me.
I was once 270, lost 120. I can tell you it was horrible and if someone came to me with this fat acceptance bullshit back then, I would have shoved many pointy, painful things up his ass.
just because i dislike some women doesn't mean i hate all of them
just because i'm not a feminist doesn't mean i hate all women
OP, please answer. This is a serious problem in society, in my opinion. Women are socialized to think that they don't matter unless men want to fuck them, and that once they get men to want it they have all the power.
Its a lie. Eventually they will sleep with a man, and the entire construct will fall apart leaving them with no self-esteem or self-worth. Which, I'd argue, is exactly what rich people want. It makes it easier for them to buy women at their leisure (when I say buy, I don't speak literally but I think you understand.)
I would say at this point it's such a minority that I wouldn't consider trying to bring some form of feminism that should be instead of what we have.
I mean for instance I don't recall her talking much about women's agency, which modern feminism takes away. She focuses a lot on men's issues, which are there, but I think that she should help bring women to reason if she's going to keep being a feminist.
oh boohoo she earned her money in life and took care of her body but that means she can't relate to peoples woe's? nice thought process, also admitting she is thin/thin privileges means that fat bitches exist, so fuck off
heres a cake for you fatty
about your buzzwords and supposed "first world patriarchy"
go to china or the middle east, where there's an ACTUAL patriarchy
Okay. Men get raped more often than women. Men get raped more often because they end up pent up with other sexually frustrated law offenders.As a male I now know I should be careful not to get raped because statistics say I'm more likely to get reamed on average. Even if I'm a lawful abiding citizen, I should let women know that they have it easy. They aren't getting raped more than men on average.
I agree, but tubby needs to pay double to triple for a plane ticket if he or she is going to take up 2/3 seats on the plane so if I pay 350$ for my NORMAL SEAT THAT MOST PEOPLE WHO ARE HEALTHY DONT COMPLAIN ABOUT, tubby needs to pay around 700$-1,000$ for a seat if it's a goddamned couch on the plane
well feminism should just be changed to equal rights advocates,honestly, its not just about women or western women,
Why do you believe the world should cater to the feelings of women. Everyone struggles with body image and confidence as a result of media etc but you must know when the standards are unrealistic. Seems to me that the female audience are simply far more susceptible to images portrayed and then accuse the false images in their own head for a knock in confidence.
Blame the world for manipulating you as a gender, knowing full well you willingly and naively brainwashed yourself. YOUR feelings dont matter and none will ever stand up to defend anyone's else FEELINGS. There are but two examples in which your feelings are defended by others.
a friend defends your feelings
someone that wants to fuck you defends your feelings
i give you the friend zone phenomena
just make you look dumber
feminism is the worst thing that ever happened to women. not only are they selfish cunts now, but they are more miserable and unhappy than they have ever been in history. Women are happier when they have no responsibility and belong to a man.
because she has a clit
that's extremely sexist against men, but who cares?!
only women are human!
gas the men!
I love that people use the wage gap stat when its complete shit and refuted by many people time and time again
not 1 in 5
Being fat is about the same as Being a heroin addict.. you can't put the food down, and anything anyone says is just "blah I'm fine blah blah" YOU have an eating disorder you can't not eat even to save your own life.
I'd like to vote for Clinton because since Bill leave president chair (or what did he live I donno how it sounds in English), USA takes part in two war conflicts and try to have a problem with Russia
10,000 calories a day. Because its wrong if I feel I have to literally STARVE to suit the wishes of men.. I shouldn't have to feel hungry ALL day. I need benefits to support me, I didn't choose to eat this much it's just what my body needs..