Those of you voting for Hillary, please tell me why?
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Those of you voting for Hillary, please tell me why?
I would also like to know why. For once OP might not be a faggot. I'm not against the fact that shes a woman, i'm against the fact that she's a criminal.
>>680598670
Because once we have a nigger president and we see how badly that turned out, and a woman president and we see how bad that turned out, nobody will take SJWs seriously anymore and we can get back to God Emperor Trump for the rest of America's lifespan.
>>680598670
I'm gonna vote for Trump. But only because I know Hillary is gonna win anyway
>>680598670
Legit want to know as well. I haven't really seen anyone at all openly support her, yet she has a rather large portion of the vote so far.
FYI I hate Donald Trump, I think he's a fascist, narcissist blowhard and fuck you faggots with your Trump meme, I'm very left wing
That being said, this bitch should be in prison and I can't understand why anyone at this point would vote for her if you don't vote for Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, etc.
>>680598670
>>680598775
because bernie is an economic pipedream that only got traction from uneducated NEETs
>>680598670
better than the other candidates
>>680598896
If Trump gets the repub nomination, it's a guaranteed win for Hillary. Half of republicans and 100% of dems are violently anti-trump.
We have nothing to worry about
>>680598670
>please tell me why?
Because at her worse she is better than Trump or Cruz at their best... shiniest of the turds.
>>680598926
Because when it's her vs. sanders, she appeals to a broader base. Sanders has his vocal following, but most people aren't vocal. They'll just passively promote the status quo.
>>680598926
>I live in shitstain, arkansas
>wheere all the minorities
>>680599163
>Why
>>680598995
and Trump is pulling in all the educated voters
>>680599163
.....but why?
>>680598670
She's going to die soon. Voting for her will be a vote for whomever her VP is.
>>680599109
>>680599163
>>680599315
>>680599384
ted cruz is cancer and trumps a clown
>>680598670
I doubt anyone here actually likes Hillary. But it's likely going to be a showdown between Hillary and Trump. And even though most liberals despise her, they'll still vote and support her over Trump and backpedal as fast as they can on calling her a criminal.
>>680599376
one google search dispels this almost immediately
>>680599033
A lot of what he says (even his controversial stuff) makes sense and is actually backed up by research and empirical evidence.
He's left for the sake of being left though, so he probably wouldn't be terribly pragmatic about it. Social programs, for example, are an investment that end up improving our infrastructure and general wealth. They aren't just free shit and handouts for poor negros. His policies toward immigration, guns, forced gender/race pay equality, and his promotion of things like Islam are way out of line, though. He's too much of an idealist to look at what these things actually are.
>>680599434
They said that about Obama, too.
>>680599376
>Trumpcucks actually believe this.
Let me tell you about Trump, he's no good. Okay? He's just no good. He says these things and they're no good. Trust me, I know things that are good and he isn't one of them. We have to really look at Trump and ask ourselves, is this good? If we really look we'll see that the answer is definitely no.
Because our economy was at its best when her husband was president and he will be in the white house again.
>>680599597
Don't have to backpedal to prefer her to Trump. If it's Trump v. Hillary, I'm voting Hillary, despite all the terrible things she is. SHe'll perpetuate the shit that's going wrong, but at least she won't cause mayhem just to see if she can. She's experienced enough to know how to not fuck things up completely and entirely. That being said, I don't think she's what we need right now.
>>680599710
>research and empirical evidence
from econ profs at great universities sure, but senate/house isn't made up of educated people. most of them are in the pockets of the big businesses that would be affected directly by Sanders' policies; they would get shot down immediately
also, in regards to social policy, look at the Trump support from the GOP and even some democrats. i have a feeling these progessive social reforms wouldn't fly either
>>680599163
>>680599541
It's easy to attack and name call someone you hate then bring up any supporting statements to someone you barely stand. Feel free to attack me like a child for saying this.
>>680599999
witnessed
>>680599541
This guy gets it.
>>680599999
Wasted quints.
>>680599597
I'm honestly not voting if it's between those two.
If Trump wins it'll be 4 years of that retard in office and most likely everyone in Congress and the House doing what they can to oppose him. How many friends in DC can he have at this point? Even Republican politicians are fed up with him at this point. If Hilary wins it'll just be the same as Obama with buttmad Republicucks trying to block everything she does, only difference is her ideas are WAY worse than Obama's
>>680599944
he looks like a walking skeleton, he wont survive the shock if she gets the win.
>>680599999
super checked
>>680599944
agreed
>>680600101
Yeah, my thoughts exactly. Hillary won't do great things, but she may actually get shit done, since she's been working the system for a couple centuries now, and the right won't feel as violent toward her since she's pretty far right, herself.
I don't really buy anything trump slaps on his site. Even if he has proposed plans, I don't really trust that he'll follow through with them. He's a wildcard who can only really be relied on to do whatever he wants whenever he feels like it. You can't really trust the other nominees either, but at least they have track records to try to project from.
>>680598670
she was selected to take the presidency before her campaign even fucking started
she will serve two terms
All I'm hoping for is that whoever gets in repeals the completely fucked new healthcare system so I don't get fined next time tax season comes around because I didn't want to pay 150 a month to those greedy kikes at Blue Cross Blue Shield.
>>680599999
Well you do have your reasons, that much is clear.
>She's experienced enough
While I pretty much don't agree with your post, this is the most I don't agree with. I think we shouldn't have any kind of career politicians in the first place. But what do I know? I'm just another constituent in the pond of corporate democracy.
simple, of all the kooks at there, she is the most centrist. let CNBC and FOX have the rest of the extremists.
>>680600682
>she will serve two terms
LOL.
Hilary may have bought her way into this shit, but the amount of shit she'd have to do to get the second nominee is immense. Hell, most of her term will just be spent pleasing Wall Street any way.
>>680600725
you end up paying less under the law cause less retards like you are uninsured
Hillary only appeals to women and niggers. She doesn't have enough women and niggers to vote for her to win.
So really the voting block that really matters is cucked white males, if Trump can un-cuck them then he wins easily.
>>680598896
You're willing to run the risk of all of us being obliterated in a nuclear holocaust just so SJWs will look bad? If she gets elected she's far more likely to start a nuclear war than Trump ever would.
Yeah, subtletly. It's not your strong point is it?
>>680598995
"I'm very left wing."
>Automatically invalidated and irrelevent.
>Left Wing went out with the 60s, boy!
>>680600856
Yeah nah, I agree that she's dishonest, conniving, and acts politically to further her own status rather than to enact healthy policy (a career politician, pretty much). I don't want her in. I just fear Trump more than I fear her.
>>680598670
Because your tears are so sweet op.
To be honest I'm voting for her because she is the that seems to have the most experience in politics and probably won't make as much of an ass of her self with foreign dignitaries. Also as much as I like Bernie I really don't if he will be able to deliver on everything he says. Since when asked how he pretty much steers the conversation to his talking points.
>>680601097
uncuck the cucks? impossibru, that goes against their very nature as cucks
>>680601134
ISIS hasn't addressed a Clinton presidency, while they encourage a Trump nomination because of his radical foreign policy stances. In the event of a nuke war, at least Clinton has some foreign policy experience and big ol' man balls to suit up for a WW3
she is not good at bowjobs, so maybe she wouldn't suck putin's dick
>>680600270
It doesn't matter who wins. They're all retards to you. Far more successful, far wealthier, far more famous than you, to be sure but still retards, right? RIGHT?
>>680600925
Nah man, she really is a career politician. She knows how to ride the line and do just enough to keep the most people the least angry at her. If the GOP puts another trumplike candidate up against her when she runs for office (assuming she doesn't fuck up badly enough to not get the nomination in round 2), she's probably in for another 4.
>>680601555
took the words right out my mouth while simultaneously attaining trips? witnessed
Hillary, cause Trump won't suck a dick
>>680601264
>irrelevent
can't spell at a 5th grade level, automatically invalidated, typical Trump voter
>>680601336
>I just fear Trump more than I fear her.
That's pretty much how it is in a two party system. They always vote in fear of the other person. It's clear to me that's the thought of humanity in a democracy. It would make sense if we could bring a third party into it. But that's just a dream.
>>680601456
>Clinton
>A woman
>Big ol' man balls.
>Oh the irony! (And you didn't even realize what you were saying!)
Yeah, typical, unthinking, idiot leftie.
>Why don't you fuckers ever USE your brains?!
>>680598995
>being this mad
are you a gun because you sure are triggered
>>680601456
Putin likes Trump, too.
>>680601415
Also let's be honest. If she wins more than likely Bill will be running the house. Which I'm ok with.
>>680601711
I'm still right. And dubs automatically invalidates you ten times over.
>>680601653
Neither will Hillary. Why do you think Bill went for the chubby chick with the meh face?
>>680601711
>points out his grammar and generalizes against all trump supporters instead of arguing against his point
you people are the reason i stopped supporting the democrat party. you're a fucking idiot
>>680601801
i bet you're a really cool guy in real life
>>680601415
>To be honest I'm voting for her because she is the that seems to have the most experience in politics and probably won't make as much of an ass of her self with foreign dignitaries. Also as much as I like Bernie I really don't if he will be able to deliver on everything he says. Since when asked how he pretty much steers the conversation to his talking points.
Kike detected. She's a Zionist, which is why she's the anointed candidate to win.
>>680601555
>trips
>this wisdom
9.8/10
>>680602089
which one of the candidates ISN'T a zionist retard? the US is a jewish country mate
>>680601867
And hey, no interns will want a taste of that dusty clit.
>>680602055
Actually, and in reality, no. I'm a complete and total asshole but only because there's just too many idiots like >>680601711 this in the world, I don't even WANT to know anyone, anymore!
>>680602089
>Kike detected
Kike detected.
>>680602089
If I was a kike wouldn't I vote for the kike. Also I'm not a kike.
>>680598924
Why does everyone keep saying this? The Democrats are completely split on her and Bernie and pretty much every conservative and LOTS of independents are going to vote Trump. I think Trump is gong to steam roll her is it comes to her and him and it's going to. I think Bernie has a way better chance of beating trump but he won't get they chance. Thanks independents are gonna decide this one.
>>680602203
Bingo
>>680601555
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>>680602212
yeah i get that vibe i was definitely being sarcastic
>>680602201
>which one of the candidates ISN'T a zionist retard? the US is a jewish country mate
No we're a christian nation held hostage by jews because we believe in the retarded idea that jesus one day will appear over jerusalem on a white horse.
>>680601415
If you were REALLY honest you'd admit that you're just too lazy to bother truly studying and learning to understand either candidate. You're just going on what everyone else tells you to believe.
>You can't get much more sheeple than that!
>>680602415
>tolden sun
excellent
>>680602089
I feel like you're the kind of person that gets their news from infowars.
>>680602212
You might benefit from some genuine introspection. Find somewhere secluded and just chill out until the anger fades, then think for a while. Just think. No agenda. No hype. No fear. No judgement from anyone or anything. Just ponder for a while.
>>680602415
So, what do you want to be when you grow up, little boy?
>>680598670
>>680602595
i wanna be a meme from reddit
>>680602424
So was I but I meant it! LEL!
>>680602505
>we're a christian nation
Crawl back under your rock you redneck faggot.
>>680602611
>i don't know shit about politics but my TV told me trump is a big meanie
I'm upset by this entire election. From my perspective Trump is an honest jackass, Bernie is an honest socialist, and the rest are career politicians. Out of the politicians, however, Hillary represents the worst to me. She consistently votes on behalf of corporate or personal interests and lies almost reflexively.
The fact that she's gotten this far and still has so much momentum has already damned us in my mind. It means that the vast majority of the population has the psychology of a dog: they don't care what you do or say as long as it's in a positive manner and tone. She's mastered the art of lying her way out of anything and sweet talking the public while she's doing it.
People are voting for her because she does awful things but speaks well about them, they're flaccid for Bernie because they're not accustomed to what he says, and they hate Trump because he doesn't sound like a hollywood 'good guy'.
>>680602507
Look no candidate is perfect by any means. Yet, when looking at the bigger picture, it all looks pretty bleak. Both Republicans and Democrats. No one has their shit together. So it's just the lesser of all evils.
>>680602656
fuck off you commie atheist.
>>680602589
>psst... I have a Pirhanna here who very much wants to give you a blowjob.
>>680602353
A lot of conservatives really don't like Trump. Most of the people split between Bernie and Hillary will vote for whichever one gets the dem. nomination. Those who really despise Trump will probably turn left for this election. Trump's just too polarizing for his own good.
>>680602712
>bernie sanders
>honest
>>680602709
Where do you get your news?
I'm seriously interested.
>>680602712
Bernie is a warmongering jew. even some of his former followers realized this and protest at his rallies.
He's pushed for every fucking war we've been in during his career and he's unrepentant about blowing up palestinians so the jews can steal land.
He's got a veneer of lies he depends upon to deceive the millennials. He's basically Hillary Clinton with an even worse tax plan that rapes the poor and middle class.
>>680602833
He just told you! His TV! After all, TV NEVER lies and is ALWAYS right! Right? RIGHT?!
>>680598670
i, for one, think america is going in an ok direction
from hillary i expect more of that
>>680602740
>dat buttmad
Give me your tears you yokel.
>>680602833
i do my own research. how about you? the young turks?
>>680598995
> I think he's a fascist...I'm very left wing
well..no shit you silly knobhead
>>680602814
How is he not honest? Maybe I'm missing something but he seems pretty consistent.
>>680602910
yes that was the point of my post. thanks for knowing how to read
>>680599933
>wasted triple dubs
>watching le reddit nerdwriter1's video and referencing it.
Go back, friendo
>>680602947
Says the blind man riding in the back of the speeding ambulance hurtling headlong toward the edge of the unseen two thousand foot precipice.
>Right.
>>680598670
I want to see what happens when the President Elect is convicted of a crime that prohibits her from holding public office
>>680602758
I'll try anything twice.
>>680601555
>They're all retards to you
They're probably more intelligent than all of us, but that won't stop us from painting the one we despise most as a retard.
>>680601867
That's a deluded dream.
>>680599944
Bill also started the for-profit prison system, repealed the Glass-Steagall Act which lead to the 2008 recession, pardoned 5 terrorists who killed New Yorkers in bombings just because their leader donated to the Clinton Foundation once they were arrested, undermined our democratic laws by rallying outside of several polling stations in Massachusetts, among other shirt things. Hillary is unbelievably corrupt, and I don't want her or her Millenial-blaming, leathery skinned asswipe touching the White House.
>>680603029
it's not so much that he's not honest as much as it is he's not gonna be able to deliver these economic reforms
>>680603082
You're quite welcome, sir! And a tip of the Fedora to you, my good man!
>Thanks for almost knowing how to comprehend sarcasm!
>>680598775
>I'm not against the fact that shes a woman, i'm against the fact that she's a criminal.
Trump has been doing business with the mob.
How about that?
>>680603299
>Trump has been doing business with the mob.
>How about that?
Ted cruz talking point?
>>680603277
god this dude reeks of aspergers
>>680598670
Cuz i want a sandwitch.
>>680603157
dumbass
>>680599944
Yeah the house dog bit my granny while I was cooking spaggethi, so we're no longer cooking pasta at home
>>680603277
do you actually have mild autism or are you only pretending?
>>680602947
Look up any quality of life metrics and you'll find that we've been falling from mediocre to a few swings past par.
>>680603251
>Bill Clinton caused 2008 recession
There's eight years of stuff that you're not accounting for here and I can't put my finger on it
>>680603356
and you reek of new fag
>>680603263
So what he says is not what you're accustomed to. If we're not even going to consider policies outside of the status quo then why bother even having elections?
It sounds like most people want to get up and go to the ballot so they can say they did their part but when they get there vote for whoever represents "Yeah, I'm pretty sure the establishment has the right idea" even if they disagree with every piece of legislation coming out of the government.
The TPP is ok then? Bank bailouts? Our existing economic pyramid scheme?
Maybe we should just unveil the gulags and feudalism early.
>>680603491
shit's not mild
>>680603349
No,it is widely known that Trump did business with the mob:
Trump’s purchase of a bar, at twice its market value, from Salvatore Testa, a made man in the Philadelphia mafia and son of Philip “Chicken Man” Testa, who was briefly head of the Philly mob after Angelo Bruno’s 1980 killing. Harrah’s casino, half owned by Trump, would be built on that land, and Trump would quickly buy out his partner, Harrah’s Entertainment, and rename the casino Trump Plaza.
>>680603248
>They're probably more intelligent than all of us
I don't know about that. It doesn't take a great deal of intelligence to be either crafty, ruthless, or have the kind of ambition that would let a man or woman crush anyone who gets in their way.
Trump is like that. Clinton far more so.
That's what disturbs me most about both.
>At least Trump has never gotten busted for doing anything seriously illegal (as far as we know) like running a cocaine trafficking ring, murdering and/or threatening to murder and, in one case, sending a woman to prison on false charges. (See Arkansas history: Clinton.)
>>680603521
>new fag
this is why we need jesus
>>680603356
I do NOT reek of asparagus! Those are BROCCOLI FARTS, I'll have you know!
>Good day, sir! I said GOOD DAY!
>>680598670
Same reason the mentally ill vote for Trump and the extreme, polar opposite, Bernie are running for POTAS. True sense doesn't seem to manifest with a balance motivation. A majority of a demand-or-bust Ameri-fats, conditioned to instant gratification, want a freak show of an election and that's what's gonna happen. Madness begets madness.
>>680603519
>>Bill Clinton caused 2008 recession
>There's eight years of stuff that you're not accounting for here and I can't put my finger on it
Gramm-Leach-Bliley 1999, passed by congress and eagerly signed into law by Bill Clinton. Destroyed the housing market so quickly that by 2006 the demise of the mortgage market began and by 2009 when Obummer took office, housing prices had crashed, taking people's financial lives with them.
It was a bipartisan failure but Bill never bothered to veto it.
>>680603248
Differing values = low intelligence to most people for some reason. Trump isn't retarded. I just don't trust him to do things which I'd consider to be good.
>>680603596
no, i'm accustomed to promises that are ultimately unkept. trust me, i dislike the establishment and would love to live in the world sanders wants to create but as long as our congress is comprised of people who are directly in the pocket of the businesses and banks he wises to dissolve, his legislation will not fly.
the reason why the left is never taken seriously is because we have a tendency to evoke imagery of a dystopian society as soon as something goes against what we want instead of remaining level-headed.
>>680603248
I don't believe itshe a diluted dream. He's been there he knows the ropes. She will start by looking for advice and he will pretty much hold her hand and guide her through those 4 years. His decisions will become hers.
>>680602709
>TV told me trump
Nope. Trumps ridiculous half-ass policies (on his own website) and his despicable business practices, informed me he is unfit to lead the country.
>>680603821
stop illegal immigration
compete in world markets properly
don't let the rest of the world fuck us over financially
lower taxes
I don't see how trumps policies are bad. He would just be reversing 50 years of self-destructive economic policy.
>>680603608
>>680603356
Being this stupid.
Totally not getting it.
>THIS IS FUCKING 4CHAN, YOU IDIOT, NOT REDDIT! NOT TUMBLR!
>NOW GET! THE! FUCK! OUT!
>God, I hate stupid faggots like you who just don't GET what this fucking site IS!
Here's what it isn't:
NOT REDDIT!
NOT TUMBLR!
NOT SNAPCHAT!
DEFINITELY NOT FACEBOOK!
>The more you know...
>>680599944
The economy was at its best because Bill was forced to compromise with a conservative house. His biggest accomplishment (balancing the budget) was the result of Newt Gingrich and the GOP controlled house. Clinton takes credit for it.
>>680603821
He's short-sighted and driven by pure greed. POTAS is just a milestone to his legacy he most likely won't even live long enough to admire. That's pretty close to a handicap.
the US is such a political mess.
the two most likely candidates now are a billionaire and a president's wife. if trump hadn't the money and hillary hadn't the name, things would be different and that's fucking retarded for a country like the USA. what is this, the roman republic?
>>680603787
no, these reasons are still a little too... domestic. and i feel like you're leaving out, i dunno, a two-term presidency that sapped billions of taxpayer dollars.
>>680604160
The budget was balanced because the Clintons, in their typical style, cooked the books.
>>680601415
Experience in politics is widely supplied by counselors, associate personale and technicians.
You obviously need to have knowledge on how the country works in order not to be a tool for lobbying and party-interest groups, but I doubt any candidate ignores by now what they're facing right now.
C'mon, you elected G.W. two terms, the guy's made of wood
>>680603772
ayye
>>680604160
Bill never balanced the budget. The national debt kept skyrocketing. All that occurred was deficit spending was reduced, not eliminated.
This is the problem with the american voter, they're just uninformed.
>>680603821
I think you're pretty spot on for a person I'm inclined to disagree with. But stay based anon, I have to get some rest. Good night and good day.
>>680604071
You're probably onto something, I'm willing to be convinced. Thanks anon for sharing.
>>680603299
proof that he actually committed a crime? Associating with criminals doesn't automatically make you one.
>>680604276
the economy was in a $40 billion dollar surplus when Clinton was impeached, what are you talking about
>>680604208
i am not ignoring it. The bush regime was disastrous, wars, massive deficit spending.
Obama was no better...wars...massive deficit spending. He turned the bush regime $13 trillion debt into $20 trillion debt.
Hope? Change? Nope. He's our first nigger president, and our last nigger president. We will never make that mistake again.
>>680604394
he's just rattling off half-remembered bullshit someone pulled out of their ass, like most liberals do. They don't care if what they are saying is actually true as long as it supports their argument.
>>680604276
The budget was balanced in the late 90s. Your uninformed.
>>680598670
Donald Trump has had a business partner, Tevfik Arif, who was prosecuted for trafficking underage girls.
>>680604193
right on. this is almost negated by the fact ur on /b/ but i see what ur getting at
someone who isnt driven by a goal centered around a societal progression is completely id. pretty much a dormant tumor
>>680604139
Baiting this hard for (You)s is as pathetic as that tine you were kicked in highschool by the bully who ended up going to prom with the girl you fell for. Remember?
>>680601653
i just don't get it, did you know that the president represent your country internationally right.... Trump hasn't even started and already pissed off mexico, one of america's biggest ally, half of the latin american leaders and the fucking POPE......smh..... electin Trump is like PR suicide
>>680604394
>the economy was in a $40 billion dollar surplus when Clinton was impeached, what are you talking about
You obviously don't understand basic economics. We didn't have a surplus, we simply reduced our defict spending which was outrageous, to something less outrageous.
When you keep overdrawing the checkboot, the debt still goes up, it just goes up slower under clinton.
There was no "surplus" except in the heads of democratic voters.
>>680604605
again, any proof trump HIMSELF committed any crimes like that? If we judge businessmen or politicians by crimes committed by every partnership/friendship/whatever they've ever had, there wouldn't be a "clean" candidate out there.
>>680598670
Hillary loves women, as long as the donate money and avoid being raped by her husband.
>>680603772
>>680604058
So you like Bernie's policies, dislike Hillary's, but see his as having some undetermined possibility of not succeeding. I agree with you.
I think Hillary's influence on policies will not be in our interests. Almost certainly in some corporate interest, but not in our's. Probably they will be detrimental to us in some way or she wouldn't have anything to gain from lobbyists anyway.
I think Bernie's policies will be resisted and therefore might do nothing. If they succeed, however, I think they would be a step in a better direction.
So are you voting purely based on likelihood of being opposed? How is that different from when I said you're just voting for the status quo for the sake of voting for the status quo?
Fuck you shillaries. FUCK you.
>>680604299
Since when has that stopped b/ from crucifying people?
>>680604262
True. For the record I never voted for Bush. That being said even with advisors she has held positions with more political exposure than just governor or senator. So part of her experience wasn't just domestic
>>680604605
>Donald Trump has had a business partner, Tevfik Arif, who was prosecuted for trafficking underage girls.
Trump has had thousands of business partners, he owns 100+ companies. Just because he knew a guy doesn't mean he flew to the dominican republic to cruise for little boys...that was just rush limbaugh.
>>680604493
The wars were a result of what we did in the middle east last time. If Obama had pulled out of what we were already doing, the region would be further destabilized, and we'd just see more Islamic state power, and more exported terrorism. The situation's fucked over there, and no one really knows how to fix it.
>>680604838
besides, with that kind of money it's not like the typical /b/ poster wouldn't be doing the same thing. He's just jealous.
>>680604136
>stop illegal immigration
The Obama Admin has deported the most illegal immigrants by far. Even the left bitch about it. And Most illegal immigrants don't sneak across the border, they come legally and overstay their welcome.
This "MUHH Wall" bullshit is something a child would say. A child who hasn't actually taken the time to look at the situation. It's an easy solution, to a problem we really don't have.
That's the whole story with Trump, he doesn't actually think anything through. He just gives you pleb solutions for his childlike understand of a problem. It's fucking laughable, but most of his supporters are dumb as a brick so it works.
>>680604493
>inherited a fucked war
>spent less than half of the initial debt tying up loose ends
no man in this day and age could've ended war, balanced a $13 trillion deficit, generated a surplus, and created new domestic policy.
also, when you devolve to name-calling, your credibility gets shaky. nothing on you, but its not effective.
>>680604558
>http://clinton5.nara.gov/WH/Accomplishments/eightyears-03.html
just for you
>>680604731
>>680604838
He laundered money for the mob in Atlantic City - at least 3 of his businesses were money laundering fronts.
Guy's no saint.
>>680604838
Felix Sater, a Trump business associate who had pleaded guilty in a major Mafia-linked stock fraud scheme and cooperated with the government. The AP reported in December that, even after learning about Sater’s background, Trump tapped Sater for a business development role in 2010 that included the title of senior adviser to Trump. Sater received Trump Organization business cards and was given an office within the Trump Organization’s headquarters, on the same floor as Trump’s own.
Bernies tax plan is to tax the poor to pay for the poor. I don't get it.
Hillary's is the same.
Trumps is to eliminate taxes for the first $25,000 yearned. Cruz decided to copy trump and raise the limit to $36,000.
Bernie wants to increase taxes by at least 10% on low wage earners, and oddly enough give a tax break to the wealthy over $100,000. Makes sense in his head apparently.
>>680604659
you acknowledge a debt reduction; it's called a 'net gain'
>>680604926
We know, but nobody with the power to do it has the balls to put the solution into action. When a person has a cancerous tumor, you cut it out and/or blast it with radiation. Islam is a cancer on the world, and it's about time we stopped half-assing it with airstrikes and sanctions and go into full extermination mode.
>>680604736
Rape? What woman wouldn't jump on the opportunity to blow the president in the ovum office?
>>680604605
Perhaps you should learn about Bill's good friend and financier Jeffery Epstein. They took a lot of trips together on Jeff's plane to his island. And what a plane and island they were - great stories with little girls.
Hillary has a team to control these 'bimbo eruptions'....something you'd know if you really paid attention to anything.
Although I would vote for Hildawg over Trump if I had to pick, If it came down to that, I wouldn't vote at all. Fucking waste of time. I'm puzzled by the Hilary supporters too. I know trump supporters are assholes, but I don't understand the mindset of a Hilaryfag at all.
>>680604986
so he must have been charged/indicted then, right? Oh wait, that's right, he wasn't.
Even if he did, who cares. Your typical politician has probably done much worse in their career - nobody gets into power by being a saint.
>>680604986
And yet, STILL better then hillary.
>>680604963
>>inherited a fucked war
>>spent less than half of the initial debt tying up loose ends
>no man in this day and age could've ended war, balanced a $13 trillion deficit, generated a surplus, and created new domestic policy.
>also, when you devolve to name-calling, your credibility gets shaky. nothing on you, but its not effective.
Obama's wars:
1) Ukraine - Started with his jew bitch victoria nuland funnelling 5 billion to troublemakers and nazis in Ukraine
2) Syria - Funnelled weapons and money through the jews to hakarat-ahrar-al-sham. Funded the FSA through turkey and saudi arabia, FSA allied with Jabhat-Al-Nusra Brigades.
3) Egypt - Promoted destabilization, ended up with muslim brotherhood in power for a year (same bunch that helped blow up marine barracks in 1983)
4) Palestine - Has been silent on mass murder of palestinians, thousands killed, netanyahu's best friend, but they fake disagreements to make it look better.
The Nobel Peace prize is a sad joke now
>>680604617
>pissed off Mexico
Mexico's government handed out pamphlets instructing good ways to cross the border. This clearly would've pissed off America, seeing as how those illegals cost America heaps. Not only that, but they're actually helping them invade another country. You might as well declare war on America if you plan on sending all your shit there to fuck it up. Honestly, saying that illegal mexicans are the worst of the worst isn't half as bad as invading another country. You have to remember, Mexicans broke the law, they are not the victims here, they are the criminals.
>>680605264
Yeah I'm sure Kasich or Paul or Rubio launder money for mafia all the time. Nobody's a saint, right?
You dumb fucking nigger.
>>680605166
We are not voting for Bill.
We are deciding whether a crook like Trump should become president.
>>680605117
>you acknowledge a debt reduction; it's called a 'net gain'
No it wasn't a debt reduction, it was merely a reduction in deficit spending, which still was deficit spending.
if you are blowing $400 billion extra a year over your tax receipts, and reduce it to $300 billion a year, then you are still contributing to the national debt.
This is NOT a budget surplus.
>>680598670
okay.... a crazy bitch or a fucked up crazy racist asshole...... hmmm...... KIDS WERE MOVING TO CANADIA!!!
>>680604136
>stop illegal immigration
Theres an amount of shit you can legally do and then all thats left is blabber about how you are going to deport all illegals and build a border wall
>compete in world markets properly
which translates to lower pays qnd less job stability to match India or China, which leads to more inequity, more low income tax evasion and rise in criminality.
Jeez its like you dont even think about what you're talking about
>don't let the rest of the world fuck us over financially
Thats the world's markets looking at your financial decisions and saying 'mmmmm I dont really think thats a good investment whete I can get revenue'
>b-but make them like us more, Lord Trump!
That goes with making good policiy decisions and trying to maibtain a good scenario for companies to thrive in
>lower taxes
Yeah, so less revenue, less public facilities and services for those that dont make anough to sustain the household's food supply.
Lets take away the precarious and badly regulated aid-packages we provide as a society!
The key lays in trying to enforce and guarantee the allocation and rationalisation of public resources in the most just and correct way
>>680605394
that only shows the lack of your logic
>>680604783
never said i dislike Clinton's policies. ethics? terrible. media report? abysmal.
but,
foreign policy experience? best out of all candidates, no question. domestic policy? great. economic policy? reasonable considering our nation's limitations due to corruption.
overall i'm not daunted by her image, and while she is corrupt i can see what she can accomplish. sanders' platform is on a revamped economy and progressiveness, and while that's great, it can't gain traction in this social climate. also, no foreign plans (to my knowledge).
>>680598670
Hillary is an experienced politician. She is the best man/woman for the job. That is why she gets my vote.
Cruz = Not enough experince
Trump = No experience, borderline retarded
Bernie = Experienced, but never much of a leader
If Bernie gets the Nomination, I'd vote for him too.
>launder mob money
>make deals with the mafia
>still get your cock sucked 24/7 by loyal Trumptards
ayy lmao
>>680605465
you say that like it's some heinous crime. It's just money laundering. If there were any evidence he actually did it he would have been charged, but he wasn't.
also look at cruz - he's the zodiac killer and he has at least a shot at being the republican candidate
>>680605580
I would rather have a prez that launders money then one that commits treason.
But thats just me.
>>680602909
>>680599944
>Implying the Clinton (or Bush) famil (y/ies) aren't currently influencing the white house....
>>680605650
It's a felony, you nigger-loving cuck.
Do you understand what a felony is, or is that too big of a word for your middle school brain to comprehend?
>>680605136
Human rights violations though. The US has some pretty fundamental documentation demonizing that sort of thing. The UN would shit bricks too, and we'd be severing our ties to our allies. They'd play off of the persecution complex, too. It's also Islamic doctrine that they can rightfully lie and pretend to not me muslim if they think they'll be persecuted for it. I don't know what we can do about it but try to educate people and hope it doesn't spread.
>>680605591
What can she accomplish? If you're right then I'd like to believe you. One less thing to worry about.
>>680598670
no point of asking here op,
18-30 year old men don't vote for her
>>680605400
>Ukraine - Started with his jew bitch victoria nuland funnelling 5 billion to troublemakers and nazis in Ukraine
Stupid cunt.
The 5 billion was paid over a period of 20 years, including the time pro-Putin leaders ruled Ukraine. Some of that money was used to clean up Chernobyl.
Over that same time period, Russia got even more money from USAID.
>>680602909
You're baight, right?
His tax plan rapes the poor and middle class?
>poor and middle class
The middle class will be taxed slighty higher while the poor will get no change in taxes.
>>680605771
a felony he was never, and will never be charged with. Because there's no evidence and you are pulling it out of your ass.
>>680605650
>i-it's j-just money laundering guise
>n-no big deal, r-right?
KEK
>>680604935
You can't really be this stupid? Obama changed metrics where they now call border jumping turn-aways a 'deportation'. Plus his no-enforcement policy brought many more illegals in the first place.
Riddle me this: why do Democrats desire open borders, greater welfare spending, no voting ID requirements and making illegal immigrants citizens? Might they be buying something?
Maybe they're just nicer.
Bernie was our only hope, America is going to burn if he doesn't win by some miracle of God.
>>680605650
>also look at cruz - he's the zodiac killer
BACK TO >>>>>>>>>>TUMBLRRRRRRR
>>680599999
Trump is like Kim Jong Il... He throws mouthy temper tantrums but nobody takes it seriously. He'll piss some people off but he's smart enough to know when enough is enough.
>>680605530
>>stop illegal immigration
>Theres an amount of shit you can legally do and then all thats left is blabber about how you are going to deport all illegals and build a border wall
Obama refuses to deport illegals, wants to make them card carrying democrats ASAP before the November election.
>>compete in world markets properly
>which translates to lower pays qnd less job stability to match India or China, which leads to more inequity, more low income tax evasion and rise in criminality.
No its simple protectionist tariffs, which worked in world markets for literally 100 years, until the globalists came to power.
>Jeez its like you dont even think about what you're talking about
>>don't let the rest of the world fuck us over financially
The USA spends $635 billion a year on "national defense" which is actually defending everybody else. Europe spends 1% of its money on national defense. FUCKING 1%. No wonder a few terrorists with machine guns can slaughter them.
>Thats the world's markets looking at your financial decisions and saying 'mmmmm I dont really think thats a good investment whete I can get revenue'
>>b-but make them like us more, Lord Trump!
Trump makes business decisions all the time. Politicans get trade deal jobs based on contributions....give them $100K and you get to be a trade diplomat too. No experience necessary.
>That goes with making good policiy decisions and trying to maibtain a good scenario for companies to thrive in
>>lower taxes
>Yeah, so less revenue, less public facilities and services for those that dont make anough to sustain the household's food supply.
Lower taxes mean more revenue because remember revenue is generated by business. It may make no sense to socialists but its true. Once taxes become burdensome then the revenue dies.
>>680598670
She honestly has more experience than anyone else. Most of what Trump and Bernie say is aspirational and not really tied to anything in reality. People basically just have to take their word for it that they're going to magically solve everyone's problems. Hillary isn't making really extravagant promises that she probably won't be able to keep. Also she has been legally cleared in both the email and Benghazi scandals. People just don't want to let it go because they're supporting someone else. Honestly everyone is going to tear apart that last thing that I said but I don't really care. Anyone is better than Trump, who is really think has none of the experience needed to be a good president. He's good at marketing his own name, and that has little to do with anything the president does. I don't believe what Bernie says because it sounds good but is completely unrealistic. Also I tell people I'm voting for Bernie in real life because he's everyone's favorite meme and I don't always feel like arguing.
>>680605941
this tbh
Shillary is going to sell America to Wall Street
Trump is going to pull us out of NATO and hand all of Europe to Putin on a silver platter
>>680605400
notice how these were all responses to conflicts involving allied nations; obama's 'wars' weren't imperialistic grabs as much as they were national obligations
additionally, most of these conflicts came from an initial period of destabilization directly caused by the Bush regime, ie, an inheritance of a fucked up war.
>>680605783
The countries you call our allies are only friendly to us because we're the world power, they want a piece of our action. Do you really think our "allies" like Russia, China, Saudi Arabia are truly our friends? We don't need them.
also the lying thing won't matter if you just slightly expand it and get rid of all muslims, people with ties to muslims, and any middle eastern nationals. Might not get all of them but it's a start.
>>680605611
>Hillary is an experienced politician. She is the best man/woman for the job. That is why she gets my vote.
She's good at fucking up other countries and getting our diplomats killed, then gets her private server hacked by a romanian who then gives all the info to Putin.
If you or I did any of this we would be in Federal prison for 400 years. She's a clinton though, protected by the magic negro in the white house.
>>680605887
it really isn't, but it is irrelevant because you can't prove Trump did it, or even knew about it when it was happening if it actually did happen.
>>680605492
You get two-for-one. They touted this for years. Please pay attention.
>>680605507
we're arguing over spilled milk here; you can look up the numbers, i already have:
http://clinton5.nara.gov/WH/Accomplishments/eightyears-03.html
>>680605809
The future's going to be interesting when the young are the old. I wonder if the next genereation will polarize in the opposite direction. I wonder if we'll remain this stable for ~5 more decades while they do die off.
>>680598670
She is a woman.
Last time, we elected some guy that used to be a fund raiser or something. Folks voted for him because he is black.In 8 years we'll need to find a gay transgendered, disabled, woman, that used to be a rapist to prove that change is good for change's sake.
>>680605650
>It's just money laundering
>It's just bribery
>It's just kicking old people out of their property
>It's just conning thousands of people out of their money
>It's just me lying to you
I'd literally vote for anyone over Trump. Trump is like the villain of every 80's movie.
>>680606116
Bush ignored warnings that led to 9/11 on American soil.
That's worse than 1 dead diplomat thousands of miles away.
>>680602524
like all of /pol/
>>680600925
She'll serve two terms and announce the Illuminati as a new branch of government. She'll try to get a bill passed, but Republicans will be on her ass and she'll crumble under minute pressure and "compromise fair terms for everyone" at the people's expense repeatedly.
>>680599816
I assume they said that believing he would be assassinated. Hillery legitimately has some serious health issues.
>>680605888
Except for the fact that Hillary is winning over Bernie by that voter fraud keeping actual American born citizens unable to vote, you have to be registered as either Democrat or Republican a year ago to vote in New York, 700,000 weren't allowed to vote because they weren't registered in some bullshit party a year prior, not to mention how many people couldn't vote because of the voter ID restrictions, because you have to factor in how many people don't have the ability to drive to the DMV in the next town over to get an ID to vote on the other side of another city, it's just another tactic to make the poor not have a voice in what goes on.
Lesser of the two evils
>>680606376
why do you faggots refuse to back up any of your accusations regarding Trump's "criminal" activity, but get all up in arms when people point out the many crimes Hillary did?
>>680598995
>being left wing on 2016 4chan
>>680605810
Ukraine was a democratic country overthrown because Putin had planned to relieve the country of its debt to Russia, which meant they could free up funds to pay back the IMF.
The USA realized this would have taken Ukraine out of their control, so they sent in former IDF soldiers, guns and organized maidan, packed it with neo-nazis (a minority but a violent bunch) and went on violent protests.
The ukrainian riot police had no guns, just sticks and shields. The shootings were blamed on the riot police though because the western media is controlled by the USA government.
A jewish banker Yatsenuk from the EU was installed into power, then a handpicked billionaire Poroshenko was installed, who had no actual experience other than running a chocolate factory.
Congress grilled nuland on the fact that neo-nazis like SVOBODA and Right Sektor were being funded by her, but they did nothing other than ask a few questions.
Putin took crimea because he knew the USA planned to use NATO to deny Russia access to the Sevastapol port. The crimeans were pretty happy too, being spared of the war that killed 5000 ukrainians.
>>680606376
this
literally the only reason the people like Trump is because he said he'd ban Muslims and Americans hate Muslims (they're like the new niggers now)
Trump could literally rape a baby's dead corpse in public and then eat it and his ratings would still go up and people would still defend him as long as he kept attacking Muslims.
>>680605611
Agreed. Plus Hillary will stand up for women of voting and donating age.
Though if you're a baby girl you might get your brain vacuumed out. Fuck 'em, amirite?
>>680606558
it all sounds bad when you put it like that, but I really don't care. The cold war should have never remained cold, Russia is probably the biggest threat/enemy to the USA after China.
>>680606547
>implying 2016 4chan is any different
>>680606116
Cool story
Please provide evidence that she did any of these things, then kindly forward it to the FBI or CIA as applicable. Sorry, but I ain't gonna drink the crazy cool-aid of some /b/ anon.
>>680606426
>She'll serve two terms and announce the Illuminati as a new branch of government.
The illuminati doesn't exist. its the jews, its always been the jews. only idiots think a bunch of men in robes with a triangle sewn in the cape are running the world.
>>680605771
And hillary is guilty of high treason.
Given we have the option of a money laundering felon and a traitor and thats prety much it because we are a nation of retard. who would you rather have running the country?
A felon or a traitor?
>>680606590
show me one shred of solid proof that Trump committed a felony. Just one (and also probably send it to the feds, given that they haven't found any and would appreciate the tip)
>>680605784
out of all the candidates she is probably the one best-suited for turning down the tensions in the middle-east. solve them? probably not for several years, but unlike Trump or Cruz she can potentially avert a firestorm rather than stir one up. in the same vein, if tensions erupted into war she would probably have a handle on that too considering her familiarity with international protocol.
domestically, any democrat would be suited for the presidency since they value tax-funded programs and distribution of wealth; sanders is most commonly associated with it because its been his rallying cry, but Clinton's plan, though less drastic, is feasible from a career politician standpoint
>>680606752
>Cool story
>Please provide evidence that she did any of these things, then kindly forward it to the FBI or CIA as applicable. Sorry, but I ain't gonna drink the crazy cool-aid of some /b/ anon.
Keep up on the news, a romanian hacker was arrested an extradited to the USA. he's cooperating with the FBI and probably will testify against hillary.
He hacked her private server and gained access to top secret information.
>>680606109
The UN wouldn't let us commit genocide. Russia would capitalize on the tension and annex a few more former-soviet states. More global instability would result.
>>680606752
you faggots do the same with your trump felony accusations
>>680606764
as much as I hate Shillary
negligence =/= treason
lrn2law
>>680606469
Wut?
How many people in this country of voting age, and who wish to vote, have exactly no ID?
That is fucking preposterous.
>>680606836
I'm laughing over here at the idea of the UN having any power, authority, or capability of stopping the USA.
>>680606778
http://thenewyorkcrank.blogspot.co.nz/2012/11/donald-trump-commits-felony-makes.html
18 USC § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government“Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government… Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.”
Remember that babyboomer thing?
>>680606836
>The UN wouldn't let us commit genocide. Russia would capitalize on the tension and annex a few more former-soviet states. More global instability would result.
Russia has no interest in annexing anybody. Don't be a fucking retard. Russia just doesn't like NATO parking missiles on its border.
Remember the last time Russia did that to us in cuba? We nearly went to nuclear war over it, now we're doing it to them and wondering why putin is so angry.
I'm only voting because I have to cancel out a Trump vote. If he would just admit that he's unqualified to run the country and drop out then i would re-consider my vote.
>>680606953
a fucking blogspot link? that's all you got? And I thought he was a money launderer - now he's trying to stage a coup too?
>>680606953
>http://thenewyorkcrank.blogspot.co.nz/2012/11/donald-trump-commits-felony-makes.html
ooh a blog, yeah thats gotta be prime info.
>>680606518
>Hillary's crimes
Cool story, but she has been investigated forever, and nothing was every found. Sorry Anon.
>Trump's crimes
How many federal and state lawsuits does he currently have against him? 4? 20? That Trump university shit is enough alone to prove he is a scumbag con-artist.
Only idiots will vote democrat. They really want us to end up like Germany.
I hope trump wins, voter identity leaks out , and we get to gun down every cuck who voted dem. With legally owned auto machine guns of course
>>680606894
>person A will screw this country over
>person B will screw this country over while divulging national secrets
>>680606793
Wealth has consistently become more consolidated regardless of established party. You expect Hillary to be different? Maybe you don't acknowledge how blatantly bought some of her pardons and initiatives seemed to be in my eyes but at the very least there's the TPP and bailouts weighing against that. Before she recognized Bernie as a threat she refused to even discuss tax restructuring to diffuse wealth.
Also, what tensions in the middle east? That statement sounds akin to "aggression among polar bears". There will always be tension in the middle east. Just don't go there unless you need oil.
>>680607071
Obama was a pot smoking junior senator who got into harvard because they needed more blacks, and eventually became president. Hillary is a carpetbagger from arkansas pretending to be a new yorker who was so incompetent she was fired by her boss during the iran-contra hearings.
I think democrats are long on claims, short on experience.
>>680607228
oh, i didn't realize being sued makes you a criminal. Businesses get sued all the time, it doesn't make them felons like you are accusing Trump of being.
>>680606830
Literally every year for the last decade faggots like you have been saying all this crazy shit about Hillary, and nothing every happens. Stop being so fucking gullible anon.
>>680607119
>>680607140
The link was supposed to highlight the source. Can you make any comments on this?
18 USC § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government“Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government… Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.”
You seem to be dodging the bullet with "blogspot? ppppppppppppppfffft, another one please!"
>>680605941
he would first kill all white people then take everyone's money and run off to israel
>>680598670>>680599999
Everyone who thinks Trump is more likely start WorldvWar Iii are delusional. Hilary's cronies are all people who stand to make big money off of war, and she has no inclination to stop them
She is a super greedy butcher's only cares about her another cronies interests. She will sell out lobbying to corporations in a way never before seen.
Yes, she us an experienced politician.,, but that means nothing except you are better at manipulating and lying.
Any real research you can do on her will show you 100s of instances where she completely fucked poor people.
Also the Democrats are the real racist party. They think they think they are better than teleworking class, and constantly look down on minorities, they just try to keep the social programs going while doing nothing that could actually begin to help turn around thicker hopeless sutuation(=in the inner cities.
In short the Democrats have very few differences from Republicans, they distract you with gay marriage, abortion, and other social issues. Other than that they both play the same games to keep they're money rolling in, and the sheep pacified.
I believe Hilary will STEAL the election, hopefully the voters will demand a proper recount. In my opinion sgevwouldvbe the worst thing to happen to the presidency in a long time.
I would rather Trump or Sandrerds win, I am not sure how things would end up, but I am willing to take my chances.
>>680605507
Surplus means revenues exceed expenditures in a given year. Deficit means expenditures exceed revenues in a given year. You can't have a surplus and a deficit at the same time.
Debt (which is different from deficit) is the total amount owed.
Clinton had a surplus: spending was less than tax revenues.
First result in google:
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-budget-and-deficit-under-clinton/
>>680607071
>I'm only voting because I have to cancel out a Trump vote
Same here bro. Sucks. But that is the situation we are in.
>>680607228
>How many federal and state lawsuits does he currently have against him? 4? 20? That Trump university shit is enough alone to prove he is a scumbag con-artist.
You don't know much about business, businesses get sued constantly. You can't even open a grocery store without some chinese scammer pretending to fall in the produce aisle and sue you for damages.
Heck that crazy jew reporter (who had pulled this shit before mind you) accused trump's manager of attacking her, and posted on her twitter her bruise. When you're rich and in the spotlight, the cockroaches come out with their lawyers in tow.
>>680607536
Hell yeah! GO PACKERS!!
TEAM EDWARD!
>>680607071
literally anyone is capable of being president. Our presidency is just a ceremonial position like the Queen. The real people making all the decisions and pulling the strings are behind the scenes, but we pretend what the president says they want to do actually matters and will actually happen. It only will if it is in line with what the Jew overlords want.
>>680607392
>Literally every year for the last decade faggots like you have been saying all this crazy shit about Hillary, and nothing every happens. Stop being so fucking gullible anon.
google it dipshit. the romanian hacker story is true, sheesh, what are you 12?
>>680598670
Trump hates nonwhites
>>680607413
Yes, I can comment on that - "he didn't do that"
Don't you think that if what he said would hold up in court as a violation of that law he would have been charged by now? There are probably thousands of judges and federal prosecutors that would suck 1000 dicks for the chance to put Trump in prison.
>>680607684
>Trump hates nonwhites
I hate nonwhites too, ain't nothing wrong with that
>>680607778
>Don't you think that if what he said would hold up in court as a violation of that law he would have been charged by now? There are probably thousands of judges and federal prosecutors that would suck 1000 dicks for the chance to put Trump in prison.
Whose dicks? All they need to do is suck israeli dick.
>>680607787
but our jew overlords say being racist is bad! I don't want my friends to think i'm a bigot! I have to betray everything I believe in and all the values I was raised to have because being a bigot is the worst possible thing that you can be!
>>680607684
nonwhites hate nonwhites
>>680607302
anyone who expects complete dissolution of the centers of corporate wealth is foolish. however, the democrats are the only people who recognize these conglomerates are gaining too much influence over social and economic interests. i don't expect Clinton to be an economic messiah but i do expect moves towards more progressive wealth distribution; any integer percentage matters in the face of multi-million dollar affairs
also, the tensions that you acknowledge exist are looking more towards the west. it'll be a matter of time till the fight is at our doorstep. polar bears, though v scary, don't hold nuclear capability and backwards religious extremism
>>680607526
i'm the anon that guy responded to and i'm fist-bumping you
>>680607787
This.
Who gives a shit.
If you hate whites then please leave the white nations.
>>680606932
The UN is the countries that compose it - not just the council itself. We'd lose enough allies to do us serious damage, we'd be sanctioned, and we'd be blowing money on another war. We don't have infinite money. Hell, we're borrowing a big chunk of what we're spending from our allies as it is. We can't survive without their support.
>>680607006
Russia parked nukes. Bricks were the proper thing to shit in that situation.
Putin doesn't necessarily want the SU land back, but he lives and breathes to make Russia stronger and more autonomous. I can't blame him, but he'll take every inch we give him. If we're flopping our dick all over the middle east and we're pissing off all of our allies, he's wide open to do whatever he wants. We can't keep pressure on him when we're expended elsewhere.
>>680607347
I never accused Trump of being a felon Anon. I said he was a "scum-bag con-artist". And I base this on the fact that he is being sued by the state for illegal business practices, making false claims, and running a "bait-and-swicth" schemes. They will determine if he is a Felon. Then there are a few class-action lawsuits against his shit too. However, regardless Trump University already proves he is a scum-bag con-artist.
>>680607228
Plenty has been found - you just don't want to see it or perhaps believe in miracles.
Rose Law Firm billing records magically appearing in the White House?
Cattle futures...a $1K investment turns into $100K in 10 months. Maybe she is just smarter investor than Warren Buffet.
Perjury - well, that is Bill's cross to bear. But did you ever wonder what kind of things Sydney Blumenthal did for Bill and Hillary? Ask Juanita Broderick. Or maybe Kathleen Willey. Or maybe Paula Jones. Plenty more - just ask State Trooper Larry Patterson.
Look, I find conspiracy theories are almost always ridiculous, and many are with regard to the Clintons. That's what they count on to muddy the waters.
>>680607624
>businesses get sued constantly.
By private people sure, but not by the state. Trump is being sued by the state of NY.
>something about jews
Go back to /pol/
>>680607681
Cool story. Don't care. You faggots have already cried wolf too much (almost every other month for the last 10 years).
>>680607953
Do you expect someone in the middle east is going to send an ICBM here? Nuclear subs?
Nukes are easy, dirty bombs are easier. The hardest part is delivery and reliable, predictable ignition. Neither are interesting to terrorists.
How is she going to diffuse wealth, though? That would be interesting to me. I'd have a hard time believing the desperate lip service of a career politician but what do you believe she would do?
If I vote for Bernie I would be happy if his policies succeed, if they fail I would be happy knowing that the establishment was forced to sink an initiative that represented the people's interest in public. From then one we could refer to that as evidence and as it's own issue. Right now the issue IS the opposition in my mind, until someone introduces a policy against the status quo we can't even address it though.
>>680608560
Cool story. Again, faggots like you have been crying wolf for almost 10 years now. I really don't care anymore about your conspiracies.
>>680607787
>>680607684
Hi /pol/!
>>680608697
And Trump supporters are supposed to be ignorant xenophobes. Amazing.
>>680603363
Underrated post
>>680609016
>Trump supporters are supposed to be ignorant xenophobes
Look at this thread. There are Trump supporters here that are proud xenophobes. If Trump supports you don't wanna be labeled as a racist or xenophobe or whatever, they need to stop being racist or xenophobic or whatever.
Plus, Her tits look like shit.
>>680598670
LEAVE HILLARY ALONE
>>680609016
>garbage boobs
Trump
Dumped
>>680609285
SHUT THE FUCK UP, you lying sack of bones
>>680604078
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Name one
>>680598670
Anyone and everyone voting for Hillary should be excommunicated from any and all organizations, including countries. Ship them to a neutral island and let them decide their own fates.
Why? Because every one of them is either willfully ignorant, a criminal sympathizer, or criminals themselves.
Hillary deserves 40 years in jail at the least. TRAITOR. MURDERER. LIAR.
>>680608710
>ICBM's and nuke subs
clearly not, but i wouldn't underestimate the wrath of oppression, religious extremism, and hatred of the west.
>wealth diffusion
progressive taxing and new legislation regarding corporations as tax entities. it's not bank-busting but its something, and considering the bullet big business is dodging by not having Sanders in the White House writing radical bills its likely they'll take whatever she suggests just to have the conversation off the table for a while
>>680609548
a wall to keep Mexicp out of America, to be paid for by Mexico
She's the only candidate with a practical approach to politics.
>>680602909
>warmonger
>he's been against every war
>blatant lie stating the obvious... somehow.
>against Israel
>he's actually neutral towards that whole situation and wants the US to stay out of it, since Israel is more than capable of handling themselves
>lies
>citation needed; so far, you're the only one lying here
>He's basically Clinton
>She's the one stealing his platform
>She has been lying for decades
>obvious bait
Reply.
>>680609619
Why would they? What's their incentive? If someone puts it on the table, they'll just say "Don't vote for him, we'll just oppose that anyway. Status quo candidates only please.". That's the thing I can't get my head around. The statement it would be making.
Don't vote for Bernie, congress won't back him anyway. Don't vote for that congressman, Hillary will just veto her. It's circuitous and they're dictating our moves and our dialogue now, so what pressure can we put on them?
Does that ever bother you too, btw? I can't just think banning abortions is a restriction of freedom, I have to be either 'pro-life' or 'pro-choice' and project my issues onto the flat spectrum imposed by the media.
>>680608901
I bet you dislike the 1%, amirite?
Ignorance is bliss I suppose.
Let's examine Hillary's record:
>expelled from Watergate intern team for dishonesty
>married Bill then had a child with Webb Hubbell in 1980 (don't believe me? check it out yourself)
>Bill runs for Prez, Hillary runs bimbo eruption control operation, destroying several young women; Hillary was actually quite good at this
>led failed health-care reform effort in early 90's
>carpet-bagged a NY senatorial election funded by Lloyd B, George S and the usual suspects
>Wall Street sucks she says!
>neither sponsors or leads the fight for any meaningful legislation
>while in Senate, argues forcefully for Iraq invasion; later declares it a mistake, all Bush's fault
>loses primary in 2008, Obama picks her as Sec of State;
>no accomplishments as Sec State, except urging Obama to take out Bin Laden; hard call, that one.
Yeah, a real stateswoman.
>>680609383
You're brave to admit your love for transgendered, uh, people.
>>680609285
Might USA Jane six-pack benefit from a bit of xenophobia?
Yes, they might and will. Stop hating your own country. It's rather unbecoming.
Oh, and screaming 'RACIST XENOPHOBE' whenever opportune has neutered its effect. Crying wolf, as another anon put it earlier.
Hey, here's a pic of Hillary's idea of equality and women's rights!
>>680610064
i'd like to think a congress that opposes a conversation on the state of corporate taxation would be willing to slide it under the rug in favor of a small compromise, emphasis on small.
if sanders was elected, it would guarantee a big stink whenever the subject of the economy would come up, and come congressional elections the voting public would remember that and elect more progressive politicians to congress, effectively removing corporate influence from the legislative branch; and they def don't want any of that so they'll prevent a sanders victory and throw whoever gets in a small bone.
as for pressure, i honestly don't know. everything is fucked, capitalism has run rampant in our country for too long and now the wealth disparity is too great for anyone of the 99% to really gain traction in a corporation-owned congress
in terms of social issues (abortion), tbh i don't really care. i'm pro-choice solely because the planet can't sustain the population every western pregnancy creates.
>>680611128
>as for pressure, i honestly don't know.
>everything is fucked, capitalism has run
>rampant in our country for too long and now
>the wealth disparity is too great for anyone of
>the 99% to really gain traction in a
>corporation-owned congress
Shit, I was hoping you were holding out on something more optimistic. Completely agree there. :(
>>680611128
Wut?
You seem to have objection to corporations. What is that objection? They are a relatively efficient organizing method. Not without their faults to be sure.
You seem to have a thought somewhere in that jumbled diatribe - do it justice.
>>680611550
wish i had something more optimistic. :(
>>680611897
Either way thanks for the insight on Hillary proponents. I still don't fully agree with you on some things but I see where you're coming from and it all seems valid and reasonable to me now.
>>680611886
sorry, it's late for me where i am. what clarification do you need?
my problem with corporations regards laws and tax regulations on corporate entities; there are few to none. plus no real system preventing the purchase of influence in our government. i understand that accepting private donations is an American institution by now, but at the corporate level in this strongly capitalist nation you can really throw some weight around at the expense of the people.
>>680612154
sure man, thanks for engaging with me. i didn't keep up with the other convos in this thread but it seemed like ours was the least /pol/-ish
>>680598670
She has a vagina. It would be sexist of me not to vote for her. My girlfriend is also voting for her because she will burn in hell if she doesn't.
>>680598670
This "woman" is devil!
