>>680477624 wallet for cash, cards and ID phone for... phoning. glasses so I can fucking see. gun since I work in a high security military machine shop, and because fuck you. kershaw knife for box cutting and the like. multi-tool because I always need pliers. extra mag for reload. keys for bike and home. comb for beard.
>>680476649 Do you own smoke detectors? > Jesus Christ do you find yourself in a lot of house fires? Does your car have door locks? > Jesus Christ do you find yourself driving around car thefts all the time? Does your door to your house have a lock? > Jesus Christ do you live in a shitty neighborhood that gets broke into all the time? Have you ever learned how to throw a punch? >Jesus christ what do you expect? To be in fights all the time?
>>680478954 I'm not the OP you called out But to answer your question: in most Street situations any nigger attacker with a firearm is most likely ill trained to use the weapon. In the event you have the ability to dodge behind something they will most likely miss their first shot giving you cover and the upper hand to draw your weapon that you have training with.
If there is no place to run your second option is to lure the attacker into close range which is horrible for anyone with a gun. Example:being robbed pull out your wallet and fumble it around like you are scared and drop it close to you. Make them do something that takes their concentration off you. If dropped close enough the gun can be grabbed or swatted away which is long enough to draw and get a shot off in most cases.
In the event of an trained shooter or an attack where the number of boddies is the only outcome it doesn't really matter. Run or attempted cover is your only option.
>>680479710 REKT! You stumped him m8 that showed him! Fucking kek! xD All these stupid people trying to be prepared for situations. If we shoot our aggressors, they win. They need to be more progressive like you and me. Brb. Wife is calling me, our bull is thirsty
>>680475352 > Legend of Zelda wallet > handgun I bet you are the kind of faggot who brags about his gun that you worked 7 days of overtime at gamestop to earn, but in reality not one round has been through the barrel. Put that gun to use and kill yourself
>>680480302 I dont know where you think you could see a Concealed hostler? Hell my wife when we was dating didnt know I had one for almost 6 months. You had a mis-idea of what it means to C&C. You dont go pulling out a weapon every little thing. There are times where its better to ignore that you even have it.
>>680476649 Not op but it's not about feeling safe. I carry because if I happen to be in a major city with my wife and child next time the niggers decide to chimp out is rather have it than not. And if you're going to legally carry, you carry all the time everywhere you legally can and train as often as possible. Also op might not even be white(slim chance I know) but there are plenty of legally carrying blacks. There are also plenty of illegally carrying blacks.
>>680481539 You ignore you have it.. You dont move to pull it out, you dont tell them you have it, you do what they say and give your wallet..
Now lets turn this around and use a idea that they showed us in C&C class.. You are at a market in the back, someone runs in yelling I have a gun I want all the money and to get down. they dont see you in the back and you have a C&C.. The guy that came in to rob the place shoots someone cause the person behind the Counter isnt moving fastest enough. Now do you.. Sit there and hide, do you try and call 911.. or do you move to where you can draw, fire, and end it before anyone else dies. THIS is where a C&C comes into the play.. On your kness with a weapon in your face is NOT where a C&C comes in.. "I dont even own a gun let alone carry" Is why you dont understand when you would draw a weapon and not draw a weapon.
>>680481116 >I don't even own a gun, let alone carry. That seriously explains so much. You're retarded and shouldn't post anything in this thread pertaining to guns, you literally know nothing and your post are fuddlore at best and shitpost at worst. There's countless cases where a perpetrator will have a gun on someone and the person being attacked is able to draw, fire their weapon and come out unscathed. You can find security videos of this If you know what you're doing and have the training you can very easily defend yourself against someone who's pointing a gun at you
Still seems excessive though. Again. Don't live there, don't know. Gets pretty annoying though looking from the outside in. Its like watching a retard with a sharp stick you know? Like, you know that motherfucker is going to poke his eyes out. But if you take it away from him, the wailing noise it makes is just unbearable.
I do know that without guns, the crime rates a whole lot lower. Like a whole fucking lot.
>Muh freedoms, what if the british invade, amendment, I need this to keep the government in check.
1. You shoot someone, you probably aren't going to be free for much longer. 2. You're allied. And don't drink that much tea anymore, the tax aint worth it. 3. Your government has bigger weapons than guns.
>>680482341 Get fucked, as a suffering citizen of the rest of the world who has to put up with your bullshit hypocrisy every time theres some mass shooting. Then boohoo about gun bans, then NRA bullshit. When your own president is pleading for someone to pay attention.
When the world is forced to pay more attention to it than you guys currently do... its kinda irritating to the rest of us, and we have a right of opinion to object to it.
so yeah, lick my weenus.... ill hang around and shitpost all I like :) If anything, ill derail the thread into a big ole mess and you can take this shit to /k/ where you wankers orta be.
>>680480853 In the situation where you're going to be mugged at gunpoint, you probably aren't carrying openly. Mine stays at 4oclock. Basically right over my wallet. He demands my wallet? Me going for my gun looks just the same. And unless he's already pulling the trigger a trained person should be able to effectively use their weapon in that situation. Because either way it's 50/50. They could equally shoot you right then after handing over your stuff. That's a chance I'm not willing to take if my family is involved. The best thing to do is to just stay the fuck out of those areas and situations but you literally NEVER KNOW when some crazy is gonna snap or when some dindu likes your kicks a little more than you.
>>680483148 You can stay in your "progressive" country The nigger can cry all he wants and claim that "the majority of Americans want gun control. So to show that I'll sign an executive order on it since I can't get the people's support, but they all want it I swear". You're not forced to do shit cuck, you choose to watch our news and in doing so let your gov further push the antigun narrative so that you stay nice and complacent, like a good little sheep. Please derail it
>>680483583 No, it's because you think our culture is "broken" and you monarchy faggots can't get off your high horse for five minutes. You live in a cuck country run by big brother, and you fucking love it. Don't shit on us americans just because we'd rather defend ourselves instead of cry to the fucking queen
>>680483148 Oh please enlighten us about the 0.2% of murders that make up the 0.6% of all deaths that make up mass shootings and how that's any fault of legal responsible gun owners. Go back to eating your sheep head gruel and not brushing your teeth you britbongistan faggot
>>680483950 nobody's shitting on americans that legitimately defend themselves though... just bashing a culture that allows atrocities to happen
it's broken because your people aren't unified, your country's stance on guns isn't unified, you all have a different opinion on what limitations should be placed on owning and using weapons
what big brother are you talking about? you have federal agencies in your country that monitor everything, just like in ours, it's the state of the modern world, and not too long ago your people were spewing a police state rhetoric
>>680483268 Also common sense. Strict gun laws Chicago Detroit LA New York. All super high gun/gang violence. Here in GA, with some of the best most relaxed gun laws, not so much. Kennesaw, GA has an "unenforced" ordinance that every house is required to have a gun in it. There is virtually no violent crime. It's still there but like low enough to be 0% last time I checked.
>>680483715 Okay, counter point though....... You guys have spearheaded the largest espionage and signals intelligence program in the world. Noone has privacy. At all. You've drafted and passed laws suspending all of your basic rights, you've passed on things like right to a jury and fair trial.
And you wanna talk to ME about being complacent and a good little sheep?
In our country, we are so reactive to our parliament you even brush a hair wrong and youll be thrown out and the next guy in before you know it. I don't think we are complacent at all. Infact, id say we don't take any shit from our leaders.
And as a bonus, the likelihood of walking outside and getting shot by a cop, a crazy nigger, a suicidal maniac, or postman that went berko is slim, low and virtually none.
>>680484767 0.2% of 0.6%. Marginal. Everyone dies and those "mass shootings(Kek)" are tragedies. But it's not worth infringing the rights of the millions of responsible people who carry every day and you'd never know it.
>>680484538 >getting stabbed is better Ahaha you also think you're less cucked that us by your gov You faggots don't do shit to oppose your government Why didn't you kick out the leaders that shut down the Trump ban? I mean you all wanted it, right? Yet they literally laughed and threw out your stupid proposal. Go outside and have your every move watched, big br... Cctv is protecting you
In that scenario sure, doesn't matter what you have on you, you're fucked if someones already pointing a gun at you.
But there are going to be other times where you will be able to use a cc to defend yourself. In both cases the worst outcome is you don't get to use it, the best though is you get to live and kill a niggerthug on the way.
>>680485433 If some is threatening my life it is 100% my right to kill them >taking away one of your rights isn't infringing on your rights. Lol You progressive faggots are twisted When I carry I don't put my holster on thinking "fuck yeah! I can kill a bitch!" you put it on knowing you have a tool that is meant to destroy things. It is your responsibility to avoid any and all confrontation and only use your weapon as a last result Why do liberals look at guns and alway say shit like "I could kill so many people with that" I've never heard a responsible gun owner say anything even close to that
>>680485891 YOu cant take them all away.. THATS THE FUCKING PROBLEM! This is why "gun control" if fucked up. There are laws in place, the laws work. Its the Fucker that gets his weapons from a trunk of a car...
Take away ALL the legal weapons that are in the hands of people that dont use them in crimes and stuff.. Watch what will happen over night.. There will always be illegal weapons. EVERY country in the world has them..
>>680485754 It's pretty fuckin chill to be an American in the right places. I don't have to worry about the govt watching my every move. They only take like 20% of my pay(for now) I have the freedom to pick the insurance that best suits me and choose the care I want instead of the govt mandated care and coverage. And I could literally go on national television right now and call the queen of England an old tranny and face 0 repercussions.
>>680485754 >Implying we don't want political gridlock We literally want less shit to he passed, unless it is drastically good for the country we don't need it Parliament sounds like a fucking nightmare where laws can sway from one end of the spectrum to the other with each change in power You like your "just cuck my shit up" system, we like our system where the gov is restrained
>>680482743 I got direct deposits on my refund so that's in the bank. This is just what I normally keep out of my paychecks for pocket cash because I don't have any credit cards or whatever. I'll spend it on the things people normally spend money on. And Magic cards.
>>680486171 you're not using the word properly at all, you've given it an entirely different definition and you spam it... what frame of reference are you even talking about? trying to embellish your misuse of a word is moronic
>>680486248 Thats a bullshit stat that you literally pulled out of your ass We have about 88 guns for every 100 persons If your shit was true you'd see shootings everywhere, everyday. You're wrong and focus on the shooting that happens and is reported on for a month. We've made it so that "the child" can't legally get them Spoiler, criminals disregard the law
>>680486041 Lol try harder. My life is precious to me. My family's life is precious to me. My friends as well. Some dindu aiming to hurt anyone else has no claim to preciousness. His life if worthless. He deserves what he gets. Be it jail, the hospital, or the ground. But real people aren't going to sit and watch as it happens waiting on the police to come clean it up. Better they clean his greasy ass off the pavement than mine or my family's.
>>680486155 sure every country has illegal guns. You just have more than any other country in the world. More guns = more illegal guns. It's not coincidence the country with the most guns per person has the most killed by them in the 1st world. Many other countries have successfully taken guns away, eventually the illegal supply drops out to almost nothing. Besides if someone breaks into your house with a gun. You are more likely to survive if you DON"T have a gun. Same goes for a mugging. Guns almost never save lives.
>>680486508 OK but why? WHY should I get rid of mine? They are in a place where they dont move, they dont kill anyone, they just sit there and hang out with each other.. I use mine for hunting, and going out to the range. They are not used in crimes(well half of them are from WW2 so Im sure they did get used to kill people). But again tell me why I should give them up? Cause someone shithead 2000 miles from me used one to kill another shithead? See thats the fight in the US.. I own my legal. They dont kil anyone, they are not used in crimes.. But I have to give them up? Why?
And every one that's in legal hands. Leaving the remainder in the criminals hands with the fact that the law abiding populace has been disarmed echoing on the news for all armed dindus to hear. Yeah. That'll work out great
>>680486739 You must not have read the study that the Obama admin had done on statistical use of firearms in defensive situations. Oh of course you didn't because they had it quietly swept under the carpet because it showed that civilians on average per year used firearms in defense(be it display or actual use) somewhere along the lines of 200,000 times a year without death of the victim.
>>680487057 Not trying to be racist but yeah. Almost half perpetrators of gun crime are black. Still if they didn't have guns, the killings would fall. Sure some other crimes would rise slightly. But overall less murders. It's just too easy to kill with a gun.
To all you monkeys wondering why people carry concealed EVEN in totally peaceful places let me spell it out for you.
You either excersize your rights, or you LOSE THEM.
In the USA when you are born you are born with rights ATTACHED TO YOU. These rights are like gifts given to you by the government. They are special and they are important. If we go long periods without using them people start thinking of ways to get rid of then. Id rather have more, than less, id rather have than not have.
Typically, once rights are taken away they are IMPOSSIBLE to get back, soooooo people EXERCISE them to RETAIN them.
You guys cant play nice with your toys, so you take the toy away until you grow up.
I'm from rural too, I get your plight. Hunting is legit, and you shouldn't be penalized for that. But the thing is, you guys wont even hear out ANY gun reductions, or additional safeties. Anytime some shootout happens and everyone is boohoo about it, someone will mention, hey... maybe its time to consider a little more control. Then its YOU CANT TAKE MY GUNS, MY LIBERTIES, MY RIGHTS.
Noone wants to take your guns away fully. It will never happen. You guys MANUFACTURE all the guns, you literally cannot survive without them. Not on a needing basis, but as a dependency.
Why you cant have a talk and discussion about it though, so the rest of us don't have to hear about it every other week.
You keep claiming to be a world leader, but a leader has values and ideals for the rights of all, not the gratification of some.
The rest of the world looks at you. And watches. And shakes their head. We just don't want to hear your shit about it daily. Its depressing and ridiculous. Keep your misery to yourselves, cause we are sick of it.
>>680487423 oh a conspiracy huh. cool back it with a source. Also irrelevant to my argument. For any defenses using guns, are also many where people died. Also those people who did defend without casualties were still more likely to die. Jesus Americans really don't get the idea of statistics....
>>680487770 Everyone is up for talking about it. 99% of legal Firearm owners KNOW there is a problem But its not with us. Again its that person that gets his firearm from the trunk of a car. The reason why everyone is putting up a fight is this.
If I give up some of my weapons, Lets say they want my AK-47 but I can keep my Nagants, and Siaga, my 30-30. Ok I give them my AK-47 cause I agree and believe that by giving it up Im fixing the problem.. TOMORROW they want my Nagants cause they are Milarty grade weapon.. /sigh ok I give them the nagants.. NExt week its the 30-30 cause someone used one in a shooting.. Do you see where this heads? Give them an inch and they will take a mile..
>>680487754 https://www.google.com.au/search?q=number+of+guns+in+america&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=ggYZV41aisLSBKu6hpAG My apologies I missed the "per 100" when I copied and pasted. Still though you are totally wrong. 112.6 guns per 100 people. Just shy of 319 people in USA. Can you math?
>why gun m8 u rly need gun m8 wtf m8 >tell that to charlie hebdo you son of a whore bitch cunt muh ammendment
My canadian opinion that no1 will give a flying fuck about : You are both right, but instead of debating we should try to find something just as effective as a gun for incapacitating others but less lethal.
>inb4 tazer They suck they have short range and doesnt work that well on some people if the other person have a gun its worthless
>tl;dr (no im not a reddit fag) We need a gun that doesnt kill but work just as good for defense
>>680488469 Because you think guns in your homes will help. You feel this is the first world war and troops will be combing the streets? That's just not how large scale wars are fought, certainly not the major cause of casualties. No I'm not near Russia. Arming general people will just cause us to kill each other, wont do jack shit if a superpower decides to wipe us out.
>>680488469 *I'm going to shoot at this hellfire missle with my gun*
Oh shit........ wait. We stopped trench warfare around about the turn of last century.
If any one invades you, and you shoot at them with a gun. Youre going to get hit by a missile, bomb, tank, basically a larger projectile than either you or your rag tag mob of guns can ever afford to assemble together.
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