Islam is a religion of peace. Terrorists just pretend to be Islamic any Muslim who is violent is not truly Islamic.
Prove me wrong.
So in "The Cow" or "Al-Baqarah" verse 193
>And fight them until there is no persecution (of Muslims), and religion is only for Allah.
I've been reading the Qur'an off and on for a few months now and it actually makes a lot of sense the horrible things that are happening in the world in this context. The first section of the Qur'an is all about how shifty and evil the Jews are. It's a pretty crazy book.
In "The Food" or "Al-Ma'idah" verse 51
>O you who believe, take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends of each other. And whoever amongst you takes them for friends he is indeed one of them. Surely Allah guides not the unjust people.
must go a step further with one of them; you know who i'm referring to.
As much as I want to agree with this because "fuck Islam", there is a standard that you can use to measure whether someone is behaving as a Muslim should, so this isn't actually a fallacy. OP's fallacy is that he (or rather the character he's projecting) doesn't understand what the Koran actually says defines a proper Muslim.
>there is a standard that you can use to measure whether someone is behaving as a Muslim should,
Who defines this though?
The Qur'an is filled with contradictions, so that can't be a reliable source of how a muslim "should" act.
We could look to clerics and religious tradition, but that causes more problems as theres roughly a million sects of Islam, as well as the fact that islamic religious tradition has changed a ton of times.
So, I would argue that the definition of a muslim is anyone who self-identifies as a muslim.
Religion can't be taken word for word. What's more important is taking the message from the religious text. The bibles message is don't be a cunt. The Quran's message is if you're not with us you're aginst us and kill anyone who is aginst us.
If someones say's they are islam, who are you to say they're not? religion is a choice, you're not born with a desire for it, you're born into a family that instills it or beats it into your daily life.
Nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom peace nom nom nom nom nom nom boom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom Ali baba nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom
All these gets mind blowing
Someone call keem. He'll take care of the pedos
I don't really care much for either religion, I just said that both Bible and Qur'an both have contradictions (and I assume other religious books have them too) and the believers are expected to live by it.
Bible has parts like that as well, unless I'm being tricked by the media to be more accepting of Islam.
I'll second that!!
>Islamic people and modern interpretations are peaceful.
You could have made an argument there.
>Islam is a religion of peace.
It is not. None of them are. They are all at their core violent, regressive and barbaric.
>posting the icon
You should consider suicide nigger
They build their basis on fundamentalistic Islamist views, which are derived from the Quran.
The reason these views are there in the first place, is because of Islams early history of war.
>They are Islamic
>Just a different Islamic than you
simply look at these drawings as they really are, lines and colors. theirs literally nothing happening in those pictures they are not real, they depict nothing, they are just illusions. let the child show off his doodles. I mean, have you ever seen a baby try to draw, small child eve? it's just lines. thats all drawings ever are. just a childs dexterity on paper
this is how i imagine those tits to look without a bra. litteraly just typed in saggy granny titties and this is what i got. uncanny as fuck
Islam is a religion of hate. If you leave the religion they will kill you. Oh and Muhammed was a racist prick,he had slaves and they were the ones that started the hole slavery shit fuck Islam
ITT: Some guy wants to start a religous fight but ends up with a /h/ fag spam his hentai folder.
great fucking example.
Nationality is a choice. If im norwegian but born in sweden then i can chose to say im either.
But ethnicity is not a choice.
I am norwegian and not swedish beacause both my parents are norwegian.
Violence more common' in Bible than Quran
Muslim here laughing his ass of from the butthurt anons with their cringy out of context fake quran quotes
and have you read the bible? the bible is just as violent (especially the old test). Religion in it self is a terrible thing. It promotes exclusivity while shunning individualism and critical thinking.
Religion as a single entity will more than likely be the downfall of humanity.
The OT is just Jewish history, Modern Christians follow the principles the Christ taught. Christ discouraged violence. Christians in the past lost their way, and were violent, but Christians became civilized. Muslims still hold to the Quran in its entirety.
>No True Scotsman.
>Begging the Question.
Please take your logical fallacies elsewhere. Islam has time and time again shown that it is not a religion of peace but rather a carefully constructed device to enslave and control the warring tribes of the middle east. Islam relies on misinformation and the weakness of modern westerners to spread it's hateful message of zealotry and ignorance. Like so many religions before it it has become a ideological disease, poisoning all it touches with madness and hate. Pedophilia, Bestiality, and what even the most staunch feminist haters call Misogyny are just part of the message of Islam.
2020 is coming /b/rothers and we shall bask in the glow of Islam's great funeral pyre.
Well i don't really have to do so
As it is not my intent to correct the half assed infographs you faggots post
I got to keep my religion for myself and you edgelords should keep your faggotry to yourselves
hell yea also its almost hitlers birthday in 20 minutes
You're right but the thing of it is, the muslims in the middle east are hiding the terrorists so even tho the terrorists are just a part of the religion it's really the whole religion that's fucked up.
so what did jesus actually say about the old testament? hmm
17"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. 18"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished.…
For all the many valid criticisms of fundamental Islam, whoever made this meme went full retard, completely undermines the legitimate reasons for reform within the religion and just hands ammo to those accusing people of 'blind hate' when they question the Quran.
no mention of incest. Lot's daughters raped him, if you are still holding on to the incest.
I'm now an Agnostic, but it's irritating when muslimes plants falsehoods, to make their religion seem "peaceful"
Any religion that describes anything outside it's influence the "Domain of Chaos" or whatever they call it can't be a religion of 100% peace. I'm not saying Islam is all terrorism but your freedom of religion ends when you're infringing on another's right to practice whatever they want or nothing at all.
here are the virgins that you are all DYING to get to ......
Happy Hitlers Birthday Everyone! ^~^
this can be said of most religions. However even the Quran can be so ambiguous that it can be easily deliberately misinterpreted.
Its how people have justified the obscene acts of war and violence against others since the beginnings of man
best to just stick to your own beliefs and remember you dont have the right to make others believe what you do or act how you think they should act - but of course we all have common rights and laws we should all regard, religious or not
Why is there still so much conflict in the islam countries ?
I don't see the same level of conflict in the Christian countries, budhist countries, jewish or any of that newer fantasy religion ones. You can even combine all of those religions in the same country, and not have problems.
islam, although being the supposedly most peaceful one. Can't. why is that anon?
Are you an idiot, sir?
bernie. Don't need to ask
>Islam is a religion of peace.
I think he meant "roman peace" like "pax imperia": we conquer everybody, then is peace
Actually Islam do not offer anything of it.
Some false Prophets has however claimed that it does and since people around them often can't read they just believe it... just like you believe your favourite politician.
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what is not true? Can you honestly say that the islam countries are not in a mix of constant violence / conflict ?
Can you honestly say that there isn't a rising problem with the threat of islam extremists in the EU and in the US ?
I certainly haven't heard of a terrorist claiming allegiance to the pope before shooting up a place.
There is plenty of examples of Islamists doing this to isis tho.
Can you provide an actual point in your statement please?
Are you fucking retarded. Conflict in Islam has gone on longer than the US has been around, let alone how long we have been "stealing oil" or whatever you Libcucks seem to think is going on over there. And how do you explain Muslim based violence against other Muslims?
anyone who has done any research at all will know
that left wing, white identity and jewish nationalist terrorism has been much more prevalent in the USA
there are plenty of third world christian terrorist organisations operating and buddhists terorist in the far east
the west's obsession with islam is purely down to political control of resources.
you sir, are pretending to be well read and intelligent, but are none of either
if you read the quran with a critical mind and consider the time and place it was written, you come to the following conclusions
in part it's a desert survival guide (the things it says about alcohol and pork are there because these things make you thirsty and in the desert water is precious)
it's a book of laws for a country that will be ruled by Muhammad
it's a tool to create fanatics that will fight to the last man to expand said country
it's an excuse to legalize all of the perversions of it's author by saying "god permits it"
in short, the quran is the extremely well crafted master plan of an extremely ambitious con artist that allowed him to rise from nobody to king by exploiting people's fear of god
Alright, that's enough hentai for today.
Hope I filled you with fap material.
Nighty night~ ^^
Not the guy you replied to, but you are a special kind of delusional. You cannot seriously be suggesting that either of the examples you mentioned are even close to as common as Islamic based violence. Stop wanting something to be true/not true, and look at the facts, dumbass.
from your western viewpoint, im sure you think you have a position of correctness, you are sadly mistaken, you really need to go and do your own research, that may help with your ignorance. however it does seem to me that your ideology will not allow you
the internet has lots of information. feel free to go look at the world from other viewpoints, that is if you can free yourself from your ideology installed by decades of training by the system
Since you are clearly too retarded to actually take your own advice, here is some information for you. Have a quick scroll and tell me there isnt a problem with jihadism.
then why speak at all? it seems childish to swoop in, say everyone is wrong, and then smugly refuse to answer to anything you've said
sounds like you want your cake and to eat it too
Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. (NIV, Matthew 5:17–18)
This is a verse in the new testament.
Tell me, from your islamic viewpoint. What the fuck does kill the infidels mean to you. Because to me it means kill the infidels you dumb fuck. Go read your own shit book and tell me what you see. Your entire religion is a call to arms!
>wanting to talk sense into a mudslime
These degenerate sub-humans are bred for the specific reason of destroying earth.
There is no debate
There is no peace for these rats.
There is no amount of truth or logic that will sway their suicidal genocidal, perofillic little brains.
Kill all mudslimes, and continue life on earth.
Is'nt condoning incest, rape and pedophilia. Christ's teachings, which override those in the OT, he taught of peace not violence. Koran is basically the book of the anti-Christ
To all non believers in this thread.
The bible is real anon.
I have had the extreme privilege of witnessing super natural events in my life that have no scientific explanation and no indication that they are anything but super natural. I know that the afterlife is real. If I had recorded the things I had seen the video would have probably had billions of hits on youtube and shown up on news channels all over the world. It would have become a trending topic on the internet.
And upon seeing this video everyone would have fled from this site. From 4chan. Because they would now understand that this site makes it easy to sin.
But now those events have passed and I can only speak of them. What a shame.
Turn to Jesus and do what he says to get into heaven. The day of judgement is coming and anybody not currently doing what jesus says to get into heaven is in imminent danger of being tortured forever in hell.
This day of judgement could come today. It could come tonight. Don't put off doing what is necessary to get into heaven.
i was forced to do a paper on islam in school and i can tell you this from what i remember about it
the radicals who are "pretending" to be muslim and "perverting" your peaceful religion are in fact more true to the religion than you. the radicals are the ones following islam as it was intended. the peaceful ones are just scared of them since they will be killed to for being the ones who pretended to be true muslims
your religion is one of death and war not peace. try to change it or switch religions but stop acting like the terrorists are giving your religion a bad name. its always had it
Again, don't even try and suggest that Myanmar Buddhists are anywhere near on the scale of Islamic violence. That just isn't true. Both are problems no doubt, but this, "Well others are just as bad" bullshit is unhelpful and untrue.
I don't know what you post has to do with anything, we were literally talking about Christianity and the Bible in that conversation.
>you need school
2/10 made me respond