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If there is no God, why is murder wrong? Simply out of fear of reprisal? If an atheist can get away with murder, isn't it morally ambiguous?
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Rape.
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Rape.
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inb4 fatlord typing on his keyboard with his cheetodusted fingers: "if God is real y am i fuckin fat??"
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Where is this stupid picture from?
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>>680118797
>>680119246

was about to ask the same thing. What's the goddman sauce for this photo series?
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The Neverending Story
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>>680118797
It isn't morally wrong objectively... Its up to you to decide what is right and what is wrong and why.
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>>680118797
your question assumes all morals come from a god rather than independent thought.
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How does it feel? Being a shit stain on a website constructed of frozen shit?
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>>680119544
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Why do you need to be told what is right and wrong? Why do you need a master?
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>>680118797
FUCK NIGGERS SANDY HOOK WAS A HOAX GOD ISN'T REAL JESUS WASN'T BORN ON CHRISTMAS 9/11 WAS DONE BY THE JEWS
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>>680118797
Isn't that what Christians do? They fear God's punishment. I'm starting to think OP is an atheist purposefully making Christian viewpoints look bad.
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If there is a god and you can just ask for forgiveness if you sin why not commit murder and then just ask forgiveness? or confess if you're catholic
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>>680119246
>>680119380
It's from a movie called "The Neverending Story"

The pic is a play on the fact that people will always debate gods existence, hence the story never ends
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>>680119888
I thought this was a logical debate about religion. You cant have an opinion without a legitimate theory to back it up. Its fucking self righteous douch bags like you that have to stick their egotistical noses in everything that eliminate any chance at reasonable thought.
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>>680118797
With this logic a person that believes in god might one day lose faith and in turn find no reason for morality and go on a rampage killing everyone, that idea is incredibly stupid and moronic.

Atheists are humans and have humanity's values in them, when you tell a group of people that there is no man in the sky they don't immediately turn into barbaric apes.

Basic things like morals are a social need that doesn't come through god, belief only may enforce it through a scare tactic of going to hell.

Also nice shitposting you mother fucker, is this an agenda or something? you getting paid to shitpost now pusedo-logic now?
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>>680119969
I started suspecting that a while ago. Nobody that actually believes any of that can possess the brain power necessary to operate a computer
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>>680120144
Religion exists as a product of evolutionary processes.
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>>680118797
>fear of reprisal
>implying God isn't literally that

>why is murder wrong?
Because you're fucking killing someone??
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>>680120563
People kill each other every day in the name of religion. I wonder how they justify it.
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>>680118797
Nothing gives you the right to interfere with the existence of others.

WHAT A DEEP MYSTERY
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>>680120764
Because they know nothing else. Its what they believe to be true and never allow themselves to question it.
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>>680120377

he got trips he can say whatever the fuck he wants.
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>>680120899
But are not all religions loosely based on the same principals? (Do right, make your self a better person etc.)
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>>680121013
That turns me on way more than it should
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>>680121013
>>680121290
I can second that.
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>>680121290
i have the full wbm of 1 minute 50 orso

dont know how to upload cuz newfag
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>>680121096
Because its easy to bullshit any justification, that does not conflict with those principals. (That person died for the greater good, or that baby starved to death because it was going to grow up to be a rapist etc.)
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>>680118797
1. Even if that were true, it's not even kind of an argument for the existence of god.
2. There are hundreds of systems of morality, study ethics if this interests you.
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you dont need god to follow the golden rule. Do you want to be murdered? There you go
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>>680121581
I think they made a movie about punishing people for future crimes. That tom cruze fag was in it. My question for you is how can anyone prove themselves good or evil if they are not even given the chance to find out even for themselves?
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>>680118797

And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. Deuteronomy 2:34


And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them. Deuteronomy 7:2

So smote all the country ... he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded. Joshua 10:40

Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. 1 Samuel 15:2-3
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>>680121779
You are the first intelligent person i have seen on here all night.
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This will probably get burried but if I can offer a word of advice: if you go from religion to non-religion don't be angry at the people who raised you believing in religion. They're just you're parents, they were doing their best. There's no handbook for how to raise a kid, you just have to wing it. Be glad you got the experience, even if you decide it's not for you. Your parents just picked what made sense to them, they probably never really thought about it. TBH most people don't think about this as much as you do, so don't let it bother you. Just live your life. I had a tough time for a while feeling like my parents had lied to me my whole life, like they lied about Santa. But then I realized that no one really knows, and they just had good intentions of raising me to be a good kid the best way they knew how. I became a much happier person once I let the anger go. I've just decided it's not for me and that's that. I don't really think about it anymore. Don't let it ruin your life by obsessing over it too much. Live your life and take it from me, don't stress over something like this too much. Side note, invest in a bidet. Life is too short to take messy shits.
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>>680121828
I fucking love minority report, though I'm not sure I understand your question. You'll need to help me out.
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>>680121866
And god said unto Abraham, "thou shalt not fuck thy brother in the ass" but here you are.
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>>680118797
>why is murder wrong?
IMPLYING
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>>680120550
Evolution and culture are different
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>>680122027
The journey from standard judeo-christian upbringing to atheism can be troublesome for many. Its easy for people to get lost especially when they no realize there may be no objective moral truth? Took me awhile to reconcile my beliefs but now I'm perfectly comfortable with my world view.
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>>680121866
>destroy
>ass
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>>680122367
Nah bro, it exists as both an adaptive and exaptive trait of evolution. Adaptive in the sense that communities that were religious were more communal and care for the sick, poor etc. Exaptive in the sense that it is a byproduct of mental evolutionary processes such as coalition-centered thought and agency detection.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_psychology_of_religion
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>>680122098
your right. i didnt really propose a real question. my point is that if hypothetically god created man, that means that he made man inherently evil. so if the you do right bull shit and all that you get to go to heaven. its a paradox. you can go to heaven if you are good but i made you evil so you are dammed from the minute you are born. so if there is a god, heaven, hell yatayata how can anyone be wrong in anything that they do? Dont get me wrong im not in favor of murder, rape, or just being a bad person, but if you are born evil, how can you be anything but?
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>>680122816
>my point is that if hypothetically god created man, that means that he made man inherently evil
I think the religious argument is more that he gave man freewill - the capacity to do good and evil

But either way it does expose one of the many contradictions present in Christianity. "I grant you freewill, but I will smite you if you make a decision I don't like"

>how can anyone be wrong in anything that they do?
>but if you are born evil, how can you be anything but?
There are MANY factors here, but I will address two main ones:

1. You are assuming that we have no choice in who we are and the decisions we make. To an extent this may be true. Does a pedophile choose to be attracted to children? Is he evil for being born with his/her sexuality? Or is he evil for acting on them.

2. You are almost implying that freewill doesn't exists. That people will simply follow a deterministic path. I tend to agree with the notion that freewill doesn't exist, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't be held accountable for their actions. Jailing a murderer or criminal would be less about punishment in this sense more about protecting the general public from their behavior.
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>>680118797

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>>680122778
Culture evolves itself in coalition with biological evolution, but one is genes mutating and the other is memetics which happens much faster. Also the idea that a religious society is a better more caring society is highly questionable and many have been and still are the cruelest societies to endure.
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>>680124055
>>my point is that if hypothetically god created man, that means that he made man inherently evil
>I think the religious argument is more that he gave man freewill - the capacity to do good and evil
knowing the outcome before they were made as an omniscient being eliminates free will.
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>>680124055
I wasn't trying to imply that free will doesn't exist. I believe it does. I believe that i am my own god. I and I alone control my actions and my future. I was trying to say that in the perspective of religion, that if you are created by the almighty smiter that you are EXCACTLY as he wanted you to be. So who is he to "judge" you when you die on the life you have lived. That is why i say all religion is a paradox. If we can be held accountable for our actions, how can a so called "god" not be held acountable?
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>>680124338
we are here to debate religion. not your sexual preferences.
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>>680124572
thank you. that is exactly my point
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>>680122816
> not No.680122098
In Christian mythology, God created the first humans without good or evil. It wasn't until they ate the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil (original sin) that humans had good and evil. This sin would be the reason that many were cast down to hell, until Jesus gave his life on the cross, so that all sin would be forgiven. So, if you believe that Jesus gave his life for you, then you will live eternaly in the kingdom of heaven.
>nb4 souls did get into heaven before Jesus died, I don't know if they were limited to Jews(based on the covenant god made with Israel)
>nb4 I don't know what happened to, or even if there were any, souls of those who worshipped god who weren't jews
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>>680124572
Yep I agree. IMO free will is actually a nonsensical term. What does it entail? If my choice is caused by something then it was not made freely, and if it was not then my choice was completely random making it entirely arbitrary.

The world falls on the spectrum of 100% random to 100% deterministic or somewhere in between. Free will fits nowhere on this spectrum.
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>>680124954
The whole free will thing is interesting to me because it implies god is working with in a higher set of rules to himself. The rules of nature.
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>>680118797
If you're going to make this thread all the time at least stop using that image, it makes me want to kill myself every time i see it.
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>>680124954
Ahh I understand, but yea it still goes along with what I was saying. It is a glaring contradiction in most religions. A compassionate god who is supposed to forgive will sentence you to eternal torture? There is no way to rationalize it. But most religious people seem to the rationale out the window when it comes to religion. They will chalk it up to something that we can't comprehend. Trust me, I've been there. Sadly, Its how I used to think.
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>>680124511
I believe coalition tendencies were developed long before the establishment of religion. The same with agency detection. I would imagine many mammals have both of these. Pair this with abstract thought and BAM you have the belief in a high power. But again this is religion as an exaptive trait. I agree religion as an adaptive trait could be debated but perhaps the violent nature of religion in today's world was not always the case in early humans.
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>>680118797
Murder isn't wrong, kill those who don't believe in our god.
>inb4 sandnigger, Allah ackbar.
>it's every religion.
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>>680118797
> If an atheist can get away with murder, isn't it morally ambiguous?

Do other mammals murder their own species outside of disputes?
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>>680118797
how retarded are you?
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>>680126419
I think it makes more sense when you consider religion originated tribe by tribe. Genes utilising small social groups tendency to develops a culture together and sharing genes, so tending to look after their own and also their own family genes.

It's been noted that the original 10 commandments, as an example, was saying not to murder your neighbour someone likely to share your genes rather than saying not to murder in general.

As society gets bigger and bigger and we see more people on the way to work than our ancestors would have seen in a life time two thousand years ago a certain incompatibility with modern life has become evident.
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If you care about the well being of others then murder is wrong because

It cause pain

It ends the life of someone who probably wanted to keep living.

It causes anguish for people who cared for the victim

If you care about yourself, murder is wrong because

The consequences may involve you being killed, hurt or stripped of freedom

You will put huge stress on yourself and may not be able to cope with the guilt

You'll get cavities or gingivitis
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>>680127067
Yea I tend to look at everything through an evolutionary lens now. I always questions why is it that I want to do something or why is it that I like this or don't like this? Usually I always think of some evolutionary reason. Like yesterday I was just thinking about why everyone is so disgusted by vomit. Like everyone is inherently disgusted by it. The smell alone makes me sick. So from an evolutionary perspective, if everyone used to eat communally from the same kill, and someone starts throwing up, it makes sense that those who threw up in response to another throwing up would have a greater chance of survival.
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>>680124572

More than that.

God, according to Christians, created heaven. A place that is completely good yet maintains freewill.
Also, all sins are tied to terrestrial concerns like being able to die or limited resources. None of which are concerns in heaven.
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>>680127580
The fear of death is one of our fundamental drives. Our fear of disease and decay. Rotting corpses chasing us through the forest is still used by the movie and television industry.

We forget sometimes, I think, that our deep psyche craves life and good health to everyone and our planet as a reflection of our own
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>>680118797
>god isnt real
>murder isnt wrong
>senseless murder is wasteful

our system and religious beliefs have be cultivated in such a way that we feel superior to every other living thing, primarily due to ourselves being the top of the food chain.

learn about nature and science and you will see what the natural order of things is. our lifestyles deviate from nature therefore by definition involving religion, our live styles are immoral
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>>680127903
They also use shiny colourful plastic and paint to take advantage of our desire for colourful fruit and shiny water. And don't even get me started on our sex drive they've managed to put into overdrive.
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>>680119222
the devil
>gluttony
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>>680118797
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>>680119246
>>680119380

the fuck? did you niggers have NO CHILDHOOD or are you just 12? That's the Child Like Empress, an immortal god in a realm that is slowly breaking down.

>Never Ending Story
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>>680128763
it's princess leah before she started sticking burger buns to the side of her head
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>>680129796
Desu?
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With ten thousand faces
Agendas and fates
I have nothing in common with me
I hate all my races
And genders and states
I'd rather be no one and free
Come desu until morning
Don't think; disappear
No one will know it was us
With no advance warning
I'll wipe the world clear
I am Suiseiseki.
~
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>>680129907
Desu
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Mine eyes have seen the glory
Of the desu of the board
She is spamming out the desu
Where the maidens of wrath are stored
She has loosed the fateful desu
Of her terrible desu sword
Desu is marching on

I have seen her in the replies
Of a hundred thousand breads
They have builded her a garden
Laced with ribbons and with threads
I can tell apart her visage
From those two eyes, green and red!
Desu is marching on

I have read a fiery desu
Writ in polished rows of jade
For all who would condemn her
Of Suiseiseki, be afraid!
Let our heros, Desu Legion
Come swiftly to her aid!
Since desu is marching on

Glory, glory, to DESU! Glory, glory, to DESU!
Glory, glory, to DESU! Desu is marching on!

She has sounded forth the desu
That shall never call retreat
She is sifting out the dreams of men
Before her desu-seat
Oh, be swift, my heart
To march for her, be jubilant, my feet!
Our Desu is marching on

Glory, glory, to DESU! Glory, glory, to DESU!
Glory, glory, to DESU! Desu is marching on!

In the beauty of sakuras
Desu was born across the sea
With a spirit in her bosom
That transfixes you and me
As she tended to the soul trees
Let us keep our boards strong and free!
While Desu is marching on

Glory, glory, to DESU! Glory, glory, to DESU!
Glory, glory, to DESU! Desu is marching on!
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>>680129960
The Desu went down to 4chan. She was lookin' for a soul to steal.
She was in a bind 'cause she was way behind. She was willing to make a deal
When she came across this young man sawin' on a desu and playin' it hot.
And the Desu jumped upon a sakura stump and said "Boy, let me tell you what."

"I guess you didn't know it, but I'm a desu player, too.
And if you'd care to take a dare I'll make a bet with you.
Now you play a pretty good desu, boy, but give the Desu her due.
I'll bet a desu of gold against your soul 'cause I think I'm better than you."

The boy said, "My name's Jun, and it might be a sin,
But I'll take your bet; and you're gonna regret 'cause I'm the best there's ever been."

Jun, Rozen up your bow and play your desu hard.
'Cause Desu's broke loose in 4chan and the Desu deals the cards.
And if you win you get this shiny desu made of gold,
But if you lose the Desu gets your soul.

The Desu opened up her case and she said, "I'll start this show."
And fire flew from her fingertips as she Rozen'd up her bow.
And she pulled the bow across the strings and it made an evil hiss.
And a band of maidens joined in and it sounded something like this.

When the Desu finished, Jun said, "Well, you're pretty good, Desu-san,
But sit down in that chair right there and let me show you how it's done."

"Desu on the Mountain." Run, boys, run!
The Desu's in the house of the rising sun;
Desu's in the bread pan picking out dough.
Desu, does your dog bite? No, child, no.

The Desu bowed her head because she knew that she'd been beat.
And she laid that golden desu on the ground at Jun's feet.
Jun said, "Desu, just come on back. If you ever wanna try again,
I done told you once—you desu bitch—I'm the best that's ever been."
And he played:

"Desu on the Mountain." Run, boys, run!
The Desu's in the house of the rising sun;
Desu's in the bread pan picking out dough.
Desu, does your dog bite? No, child, no.
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>>680130204
HIYA SUISEISEKI! HI ANON!
DO YOU WANT TO GO FOR A RIDE?
SURE ANON.
JUMP IN.

I'M A DESU GIRL, IN A DESU WORLD. LIFE IN BISQUE, IT'S RISQUÉ.
YOU CAN BRUSH MY HAIR, DESU ME EVERYWHERE. IMAGINATION, IT'S A DESU NATION!

COME ON DESU, LET'S GO DESU!
I'M A DESU GIRL, IN A DESU WORLD. LIFE IN BISQUE, IT'S RISQUÉ.
YOU CAN BRUSH MY HAIR, DESU ME EVERYWHERE. IMAGINATION, IT'S A DESU NATION!

I'M A ROZEN MAIDEN GIRL, IN A 2D WORLD,
DRESS ME UP, MAKE IT TIGHT, I'M YOUR DOLLY.
YOU'RE MY DOLL, J-ROCK'N'ROLL, FEEL THE GLAMOR, FEEL THE LOLZ,
KISS ME HERE, TOUCH ME THERE, HANKY PANKY.
YOU CAN TOUCH, YOU CAN PLAY, IF YOU SAY "DESU FOREVER"

I'M A DESU GIRL, IN A DESU WORLD. LIFE IN BISQUE, IT'S RISQUÉ.
YOU CAN BRUSH MY HAIR, DESU ME EVERYWHERE. IMAGINATION, IT'S A DESU NATION!

COME ON DESU, LET'S GO DESU! (AH AH AH YEAH)
COME ON DESU, LET'S GO DESU! (OH OH)
COME ON DESU, LET'S GO DESU! (AH AH AH YEAH)
COME ON DESU, LET'S GO DESU! (OH OH)

MAKE ME WALK, MAKE ME TALK, DO WHATEVER YOU PLEASE, I CAN ACT LIKE A STAR, I CAN BEG ON MY KNEES.
COME JUMP IN, ROZEN FRIEND, LET US DO IT AGAIN, HIT THE TOWN, DESU AROUND, LET'S GO DESU

YOU CAN TOUCH, YOU CAN PLAY, IF YOU SAY "DESU FOREVER!"
YOU CAN TOUCH, YOU CAN PLAY, IF YOU SAY "DESU FOREVER!"

COME ON DESU, LET'S GO DESU! (AH AH AH YEAH)
COME ON DESU, LET'S GO DESU! (OH OH)
COME ON DESU, LET'S GO DESU! (AH AH AH YEAH)
COME ON DESU, LET'S GO DESU! (OH OH)

I'M A DESU GIRL, IN A DESU WORLD. LIFE IN BISQUE, IT'S RISQUÉ.
YOU CAN BRUSH MY HAIR, DESU ME EVERYWHERE. IMAGINATION, IT'S A DESU NATION!

I'M A DESU GIRL, IN A DESU WORLD. LIFE IN BISQUE, IT'S RISQUÉ.
YOU CAN BRUSH MY HAIR, DESU ME EVERYWHERE. IMAGINATION, IT'S A DESU NATION!

COME ON DESU, LET'S GO DESU! (AH AH AH YEAH)
COME ON DESU, LET'S GO DESU! (OH OH)
COME ON DESU, LET'S GO DESU! (AH AH AH YEAH)
COME ON DESU, LET'S GO DESU! (OH OH)

OH, I'M HAVING SO MUCH FUN! WELL SUISEISEKI, WE ARE JUST GETTING STARTED. OH, I LOVE YOU ANON!
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>>680130282
wut da fuk i was away for 4 days
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>>680130390
Some one stole your meme? both images? desu~
2nd one was in same thread that Judy poster shared >>680130227 with des.
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Wheres banana?
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>>680119888
I can explain why it wasn't the Jews.

Look at that aircraft placement. It's like 3/4ths of the way up the building. How many innocents managed to escape from the lower levels? Lots, probably.

Nah. They Jews get their money's worth. Two pounds of flesh, eh Shylock old buddy old pal?

They'd have put those planes right into the foundation. Topple the things over by destroying the structural integrity at the base. Might even take out a few nearby buildings on the way down as a bonus.
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>>680121013
>how much money does she get
>how does it feel for her? Same as every dick?
>how do they get the dog horney on cue?
>why would anybody like it?
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>>680130663
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>>680130982
NO WAY
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There he is. There he goes again. Look, everyone! He posted it once again! Isn't he just the funniest guy around?! Oh my God

I can almost see your pathetic overweight frame glowing in the dark, lit by your computer screen which is the only source of light in your room, giggling like a like girl as you once again type your little 'DESU' and fill in the captcha. Or maybe you don't even fill in the captcha. Maybe you're such a disgusting NEET that you actually paid for a 4chan pass, so you just choose the picture. Oh, and we all know the pictures. Those "epic" DESU pics, right? I imagine you little shit laughing so hard as you click it that you drop your Doritos on the floor, but it's ok, your mother will clean it up in the morning. Oh, that's right. Did I fail to mention? You live with your mother. You are a fat fucking fuckup, she's probably so sick of you already. So sick of having to do everything for you all goddamn day, every day, for a grown man who spends all his time on 4chan posting about a single character from a battle manga. Just imagine this. She had you, and then she thought you were gonna be a scientist or an astronaut or something grand, and then you became a NEET. A pathetic shitposting NEET. She probably cries herself to sleep everyday thinking about how bad it is and how she wishes she could just disappear. She can't even try to talk with you because all you say is "DESU DESU DESU." You've become a parody of your own self. And that's all you are. A sad little man laughing in the dark by himself as he prepares to indulge in the same old dance that he's done a million times now. And that's all you'll ever be
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>>680118797
it is wrong because it goes against our nature
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>>680131037
Hello, friend.
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>>680131105
What the desu did you just fucking desu about me, you little desu? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my desu in the Navy Desus, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret desus on Al-Desu, and I have over 300 confirmed desus. I am trained in desu warfare and I’m the top desu in the entire US armed desu. You are nothing to me but just another desu. I will desu you the fuck out with desu the likes of which has never been seen before on this desu, mark my fucking desu. You think you can get away with saying that desu to me over the desu? Think again, desu. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of desu across the USA and your desu is being traced right now so you better prepare for the spam, maggot. The spam that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your desu. You’re fucking desu, kid. I can be desu, desu, and I can desu you in over desu ways, and that’s just with my bare desu. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed desu, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Desu and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable desu off the face of the desu, you little desu. If only you could have known what unholy desu your little “desu” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking desu. But you desu, you desu, and now you’re desu, you goddamn desu. I will shit desu all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking desu, kiddo.
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>>680131167
i come to talk to you again
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>>680131415
Go ahead and come all over the place.
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>>680131637
i already did
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>>680118797
>>680130832
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>>680131703
Nice
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>>680131886
can you give me the original travis imags
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>>680131814
Take it all off.
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I see you guy's are holding the fort.
I may go see if I can ruin a 12 year olds ylyl thread.
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>>680131936
This is the original pic.
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>>680132156
Thank you
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>>680118797
I'd really not mind this getting reposted every day if they would just use a different fucking picture.
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>>680132266
No problem.
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>>680118797
There's nothing wrong with murder in its base form, in fact the bible teaches that killing is only wrong when it's members of the same faith. Nobody gives a shit, leave.
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>>680132477
checked
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Yeah
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>>680118797
>why is murder wrong
You'll get a slightly different answer depending on who you ask, or a very different answer if you ask edgelords.

Murder in a legal context is, essentially, killing someone with intent. Society has decided that homicide altogether is wrong against members of the community.

Let's look at war - war is acceptable homicide.
Why isn't that wrong? Because they're evil? Because they would do it to us?
Whatever reason given, it's not wrong because we don't think or feel that it's wrong.

Murder is wrong, because we want it to be (for whatever reason you pick).

>fear of reprisal
Well, yes. Criminal law, all that.
Plus never underestimate upbringing.

>If an atheist can get away with murder, isn't it morally ambiguous?
Wot?
Atheism has nothing to do with getting away with murder.
The only people who punish murder are the state (or whatever power structure exists).
You get away with murder if you avoid being caught.

Also, yes, murder is morally ambiguous, like I mentioned above.
However, as the majority have a moral sense that it's wrong we all don't do it as a society (except war, or the death penalty or whatever), the state we've invested power in punish it.
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>>680118797
I dunno mate, I don't think people like being murdered
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>>680132730
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>>680118797
STOP POSTING SUCH UGLY PICTURES YOU RANCID GUTTER CUNT.

Shitposting I can deal with, but having to see that fucking ugly "just been shown harry the hairless hamster by uncle jerry" expression-showing kid drives me fucking crazy.
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>>680120144
shit that's clever
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>>680132905
Nice meme.
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>>680133173
Dat ass
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>>680119586
>this
most people find it the most reasonable to not kill each other because of the social and legal repercussions. If there is a god, why are people still killing themselves and others, even though an almighty god should be able to, and willing, to stop it? Face it, even your made up god, your idol of love, doesn't fucking like you.
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>>680133240
Thank you
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>>680133143
Mother Suiseiseki loves us, she loves me and you and everybody, and through the teachings of her sacred word we will live in harmony and oneness, and ascend into a state of pure anonymity ~desu
When we are all the same mind and spirit~
~desu, the sacred sound, so that it may resonate within us and flow out to touch the ethereal beyond ~desu
the sacred vibration, resonates with the great fiery waters beyond the universe, and touches god
~desu appears embraced in a beautiful chorus of vibration
Mother Suiseiseki is in all things, in all places. You can not imprison her any more than you could cage the wind ~desu.
Suiseiseki cultivates the possibility, ever so gently pulling it from the one all, so that it is allowed to manifest ~desu.
It is through these manifestations of temporary individuality that the spirit energy is made to grow before returning to the great nothing ~desu.
Suiseiseki is all things, and thus the evil is also required~ But it is always the way, that the evil do not know they are only aiding in cosmic unity, because they are driven by selfishness and hate. While the good, know that the evil is also a part of the all. Which is what allows them to be full of love for all things ~desu.
Its in this way, that suiseiseki can favor only one, because where love is given it is got, and hatred breeds death. The duality extends to all depths, even into the heart of suiseiseki herself. So that she needs not give equal favor to each side, even though each is equal in the universe ~desu.
This is the difference between the mind and the spirit, the mind knows not the spirit, the spirit knows not at all, but drives all things ~desu.
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>>680118797
So you're saying god is where morals and ethics come from? Fucking retard.
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lewd time
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>>680133840
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>>680119655

Well obviously. That's why rape is more acceptable than homosexuality.
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>>680133969
Last of my new images.
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>>680134132
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Im in 10 threads right now i might be slow
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>>680134661
I have to go to bed anyway. See you next time,my friend.
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>>680134868
Good night my child
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>>680118797
Learn morality/natural laws you obviously suck st that. These laws are universal no matter what you believe.
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