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But fuck common sense, right guys?

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But fuck common sense, right guys?
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>>675857809
What country have we invaded without a reason the world supported?
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Yeah leave them to their own problems.

And ofc don't let them bring those problems here.
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>>675857809
why not both?
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>>675858075
lets start with iraq
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>>675858274
This.

Literally no country other than the US supported this
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>>675857809
I've yet to see a single good thing that bringing muslims immigrants would do.

Europe certainly isn't getting better.
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>>675858274
Ok. Everyone wanted us to go in because they were hiding terrorist. So if there were already terrorists before we went in how is it us going in that creates them?
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>>675858075
>Vietnam
>Persian gulf
>Korea
>Spanish war
>Mexican-American war
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>>675858075
We do not need to be the world's policeman. Other countries can solve their own problems without us having to spend more money and use our own resources to solve stupid shit
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>>675858486
Those caused Muslim extremists?
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>>675857809
Fuck you, Muslim scum.
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>>675857809

Anon, you're about 10 years behind the times.

It's not politics as usual. "America" didn't invade Iraq. "America" didn't bail out the banks and take over 90% of mortgages. "America" isn't erasing borders and taking over universities.

America is being phased out, internally. Global government is the goal, and it's just around the corner.
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>>675858390

>answering to the UN

Things America doesn't have to do for 500, Alex.
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>>675858471
noone wanted except us and uk.and i thought it was because of wmd and saddam, and not terrorists.
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>>675858671
Op here, not a Muslim :)
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>>675857809
We left the mudslime shitskins to their own devices and then the taliban and al queerida happened. They use those shithole countries to train and spread their mental illness. Then they fly to civilized lands and kill innocents in the name of their pedophile goat fucking prophet and sick murderous god. Wherever they live we must go and kill them before they spread their sickness further. Fuck islam. Muhammad is a goat fucker.. spray pork blood and guts on every mosque you see and put bacon on all the halal food in every supermarket.
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>>675858807
Just around the corner? You're a little late, pal.
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>>675858644
Persian gulf, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria etc.
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>>675858471
Iraq and that whole "war on terrorism" was just a way for the us to get tons of oil, nothing else.
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>>675858978

Hardly. It's going to take another 25 years, at least.
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>>675857809
>>>/v/+/plebbit/
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yay another internet fite thread
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>>675859060
Where is the oil? I never saw any of it. I still have to pay for it.
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>>675857809
Why not both?
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>>675858932
>us and uk
That is the world
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>>675858570
You are dumb if you think we care about being the world's policemen more than business ventures.

The only reason why we have gone to war in the past half century was because of money.
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>>675859089
Just because there are separate states doesn't mean they aren't all the same government.
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>>675859060

No, little faggot. It was a way for the globalists to use the US to destabilize the middle east.

America doesn't own Iraq or its oil, you stupid cunt. America pays for it. America also has its own massive reserves that the fed won't allow anyone to touch, because energy independence hinders globalization.

Please just leave this thread and stop giving your juvenile opinions.
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>>675859229
Well of course you have to pay for it, that's why they took it.
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>>675858807
How the fuck do I work for this?
I understand this is logical and what will happen, but where does one find this?
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>>675859414

There is no one world government yet, Anon.

Keep jumping the gun and people will not care about your argument anymore.

>"This is global government? I don't notice any difference... no big deal, I guess."
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>>675857809

Only a cuckold faggot buys into the "we started it" argument. Muslims have been planning world domination for 1400 years. They do what they do regardless of Iraq. OP is a colossal faggot.
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>>675857809
>supporting muslims
stop
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>>675859432
But more importantly the oil. And to generate hate towards muslims. Never said they owned iraq, rage somewhere else spergo.
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>>675857809
Trump supports both, Hillary (supported Iraq, Afghanistan, destabilized Libya, Yemen, Syria) supports neither.
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>>675859645
The only way I can see the global government achieve stability is if it has a base unit that it expands upon that is already stable.
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>>675859810
And Bernie supports only one of them. Happy medium
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>>675859772

>oil

Once again, no oil has been stolen, Anon.

>hate toward Muslims

And hate of Muslims for us, before flooding our countries with "refugees".

You're part way there, little faggot. Strain that little brain some more.
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>>675860088

>doubledubs speaks truth
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>>675859922

What globalist wants stability? You can grab all the power and money you want when things are unstable.

The end goal is global government after destabilizing the world and dropping the population by 80%.
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>>675860378
That is all well and good, but I am talking about ensuring extinction levels are kept at bay and that has not been focused on as you can blatantly tell by some of our policies.
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>>675859653
Only a cuckold faggot buys into the "all Muslims are bad" argument. Americans have been brown-nosing the world for the past 200 years. They do what they do because nobody can stop them. Anon is a colossal faggot.
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>>675860820
Muslims are conditioned to violence because of their religious teachings. They will become violent if it is a viable solution to their attempted dominance.
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>>675860378
>dropping the population by 80%.

If you dropped it by that much, you'd probably end up dropping it by 100% or close to it. It would take some serious shit to do that. Shit that probably could not be controlled, or contained once unleashed. I don't trust government, corporations, or billionaires, but I really doubt most of them are that suicidal.
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Can't you fuckers just agree that anybody that has any modicum of power and ego strives to fuck us over in the long run? Doesn't matter how you think the world is working wrong, we shouldn't have to fucking put up with it anymore.
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>>675858486
>didnt even vietnam
>didnt invade persian gulf
>didnt invade korea
>spanish war/mexican american..now you just being full retard
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>>675857809
Trump warned against going into Iraq so ...
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Why haven't you converted to Islam yet /b/? It's the superior religion.
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>>675861008
>They will become violent if it is a viable solution to their attempted dominance.
So, they're just like any other human beings? Retard
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>>675861194
Except nobody gave a fuck about what Trump said because he didn't know and still doesn't know anything about how world governments work
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>>675861097
I would love to engage in the chemistry to cause such a thing to happen. Everyone that is born is sterilized and has to undergo licensing in order to procreate and apply to have the fertility blocks removed from them.
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>>675861243
All religion is bad, though lol
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>>675861246
Christains are docile and stupid. The teachings never talked about violence or naming weapons or other aspects that are found in the quran.
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>>675861587
Wrong.
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>>675858471
Let me give you a scenario

>Older bro US says that younger bro Iraq is hiding squirt guns in his backpack to shoot him with
>Asks mom if he can search his backpack
>Justifies it by saying that the kid whose lunch money Iraq steals everyday kicked over US's sandcastle and the fact that they're in the same class means they're somehow conspiring together, even though they hate one another
>Momma UN says no, but US takes the backpack anyway
>Looks for a good five minutes
>Finds Iraq's cookies
>Not what he said he was looking for, but takes them and eats them anyway
>"Did you find squirt guns, sweetie"
>"No, but just because I can't find them doesn't mean he doesn't have them"
>Proceeds to beat the shit out of the kid from school who kicked over the sandcastle and look in his backpack for a rare Osama-Man action figure
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>>675861718
Okay, so they are taught "thou shall not kill", yet they still kill regardless of what they're taught? There are both good and bad people to any group of people, anon
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>>675861921
Why am I wrong, anon?
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>>675861940
The Muslim ideology is a global one and strives for things that other religions don't.
The end game is everyone is Muslim and those that aren't are dead.
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>>675859432
If you really believe that shit you should shut down your PC and go back to live in Disneyland
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>>675862127
Truth cannot be good or bad, it's just truth.
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>>675861587
Agreed.
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>>675857809

I am so bored with muslims.

The peaceful ones, the race hate clerics, the terrorists. Bored with the lot of them.
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People have been kicking Jews and Muslims out for as long as there have been Jews and Muslims. That is the defining characteristic of those religions. They invade or sneak in, fuck up a place, and when the people have had enough, get kicked out.

The sad part is that every civilized nation has to learn that all over again every time. Read a fucking history book. There's a reason for these things.
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>>675861181
This. Thank you anon. Too many Bernouts refuse to acknowledge this.
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>>675862577
The internet can stop that from reoccurring because of the ease of gathering information and how all knowledge is stored.
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>>675857809
No we should just carpet nuke the middle east and be done with them
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>>675862378
Except religion isn't the truth in any meaning of the word. One religion isn't more true than another
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>>675857809

Why not both?
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>>675862776
Monotheism is the truth.
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>>675861929
We all know they have the squirt gun and Osama-man. We just need to find their finding place.
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>>675862801
Why not broth?
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>>675857809
they have been doing their shit for thousands of years

Invading makes no difference, other then fighting them there instead of you home streets which is fucking preferable
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>>675861181

Did America really think they could beat North Vietnam?

Do any Americans look at the red's under the bed era with a sense of shame?
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>>675862732
>No we should just carpet nuke the middle east and be done with them
>as if killing hundreds of thousands of millions of innocent people will end all hatred and terrorism towards America

Nice try fag
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>>675860820
Muslims are bad though. not the guy you responded to but the Islam religion is the worst thing to ever happen to this earth period. they believe in beheading someon over the littlest thing, maim and rape as justification for their "allah" and oppress women to great lengths. Muslims have been trying bend over the world and fuck it for 1400 years kiddo they should be exterminated like the fucking rats they are
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>>675857809
>implying Islamic countries weren't horrible regimes preaching to kill any- and everyone who thinks differently from them throughout all of history
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>>675858140
Ofc this ffs..

>fuck mudslimes
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>>675861929
This is a smart metaphor
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>>675862981
the only shame was that people demonized Goldwater. He was the only sane man running in '64.
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>>675862981
>Did America really think they could beat North Vietnam?
We could have if we wanted to kill everyone we came across and didnt tell people about it. We had to stop fighting because of all the hippy protesting. We didnt we beat. they just survived for too long.
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>>675857809
The crusades were not unprovoked you libtard.
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Fuck kebabs, invade their countries and keep them out.
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Persia was a civilized nation ... maybe the most civilized on earth ... until Mohammad came along.
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>>675862851
gtfo
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>>675858417
>"Yet i have yet to see a single good reason to let humans live"
m8, there's nothing you will do to change it and opinions dont matter
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>>675863032

no but those fuckers will stiil be fighting and doing this shit 1000's years from now

better just to wipe them out and start over the world would be a far better and far more peaceful place afterwords
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>>675863227

It wasn't just hippys. A lot of Americans were shocked and appalled with what went on.

In 1946, Ho Chi Minh said, in reference to the French, "You can kill ten of our men for every one we kill of yours. But even at those odds, you will lose and we will win.

With that mentally ingrained they weren't going to just quit son.

Some analysis of war casualties indicated that the US and its allies inflicted roughly a three-to-two ratio of communist combat deaths against allied deaths. Eventually, the US signed the Paris Peace Accords and pulled out.
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>>675858390
>no other country

Australia, the UK, Kurdistan and Poland also invaded with the US
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>>675863032
Europe even looks like a man bowing to the USA
You only hate us cause you ain't us
Dam america envy
don't worry each day youthing about and loathinf us
we do not think about you for one second, hahaha your so sad
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>>675858274
>>675858390
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War
Get your facts right. Dozens of other countries participated alongside the US. There was a huge coalition, and plenty of international support.
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>>675864050
kek america is bankrupted and going down the shitter quick, about to elect a crazy narcissist to be next president, think their country won't collapse, how is reality in retard land.
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>>675863177

I would not feel comfortable with anyone who was supported by the KKK but that is just me.
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>>675864050
I'm an american, stupidface. I hate us because we ARE us
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>>675862967

Here's my proposal.

1: We Invade Mecca.
2: We set up fortifications, anti aircraft missiles, and machine guns all around the Kabaa (the magic cube).
3: We build a latrine in the Kabaa and order all our troops to shit there exclusively.
4: We kill Muslims till they realize their God is a superstition and stop coming.
5: World peace.
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>>675858471
> being this fucking stupid
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>>675857809
Starts sentence with but and talks about common sense, dumb ass.
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>>675859432
> Iluminati pls
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>>675864476
There were already chickens and your saying us going in created the egg.
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>>675864336

>how is reality in retard land.

Could be worse.

Pic related.
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>>675864050
or a man praying to allah

glory to islam!
EU under sharia law is inevitable!
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>>675864441
what fucks me the most is that pic related never happens. Theres a bunch of fanatic muslims to blow themselves up but not a single western fanatic to at least drop a bomb there.
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>>675860378
80% wouldn't be bad. 7 billion + is unsustainable.

if we don't control our population, it'll be done for us, and that will be much more unpleasant.
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>>675864672
so what about official reports about Bin Laden being trained by US in order to fuck communists?

You guys are the problem and don't even know it.
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you're right

trump should build a time machine, go back in time, become president, and not commit forces to the middle east
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>>675863852
The whole hippie thing was really overblown actually. Most of the youth of the time did not identify as hippies, and had no desire to be like them. Think about today, and who are the most selfish, greedy, fanatically religious, war mongering fucks around? The fucking baby boomers, that's who. People of their parents generation are not nearly as bad as them, and never were. It's just unfortunate that their parents are almost all gone now, while they'll be around for a while to come.
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>>675865138
i could actually see that happening. Trump would have been president by a landslide in any election from 1900-2000 just because of how bigoted and racist people were
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>>675864297
>Wikipedia
Kys fag
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>>675865128
you sound like an edgy teen who just read an artikel about something and now knows everything ...
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>>675865553
sup tumblr
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>>675865823
i don't even go on tumblr, but tell me that i'm wrong
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why is trump's face on that image?

him, bernie and rand are the least interventionist candidates
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>>675865623
>defutes data with insults
>calls others a fag
kill yourself
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>>675864297
>Poland sent 194 troops

Do you think that they managed to change a lightbulb while there?
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>>675864050

that map is retarded because its clear that europe isnt that shape. you havent even drawn around the scandinavians and baltics.

and turkey isnt in europe for the majority of it.
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>>675857809
Yes true we should just drop nuke on them
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>>675857809
>muslim countries being shitholes is solely the US' fault

Oh fuck of Ahmed.
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>>675858975
> to their own devices

You supplied and trained the taliban and al qaeda because you needed someone to fight the soviets for you because you're chickenshits.
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>>675865128
We helped them when they needed it because it benefited us and then down the road they turned on us. How is it our fault? We should not help people?
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>>675857809
Iraq, Lybia, Syria ... the US and it's coalition buddies are the main reason secular governments/functioning countries were destroyed. Extremist Islam is just another brainwashing ideology used to recruit soldiers. Just to think of the sheer number of CIA backed coups since WW2.... should paint enough of a picture about the US alone.
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>>675860088
Flooding all western countries with refugees because the US literally fucked up all their countries.
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>>675863227
Also Lbj was holding us back. he wanted the benefits of a war, but when it started to drag on, he knew that any actual American effort would bring in the Chinese. so north Vietnamese peasant assholes can act like they won, but the truth is nobody wanted a real war.
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>>675866353
we trusted a group of radicals, whom we didn't know the true intentions of, and trained and gave them weapons and expected everything to be fine and dandy

there was no way possible that we could have gotten something good out of this situation down the road.

and no, we should not help people. people should just learn to take care of themselves and not depend on other people for everything
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>>675857809

Good idea! Because invading muslim countries makes them suicidal and muslim right? Fucking libtards.
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>>675866702
No one gives a fuck about helping people, everything is a calculated move, and no one gives a fuck about collateral damage to peasants
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>>675866736
invading their countries and killing innocent civilians made them hate us, fucknugget
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>>675866666
Holy fuck checked
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>>675866666
Witnessed
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>>675866736
Absolutely obliterating secular governments and funding extremist groups .........
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>>675863227
> More bombs dropped on North Vietnam on some days during Vietnam war than dropped on Germany in all of world war two. North still wins.

> We could have won if we wanted to
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>>675866666
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>>675857809
Instead of letting Muslims into the United States...

...we should leave them in their "advanced and cultured" lands to kill each other like they've been doing for hundreds of years.
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>>675857809
buttmad kebab confirmed
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>>675858471
No one wanted you to go in. Literaly the whole world said that was the most stupid thing to do. And what terrorist was Iraq hiding? Saddam actually executed terrorists. Saddam, Assad and all the other dictators in near east been the only ones that could hold terrorism down. And what happened when US, UK and FR removed all the terrorists? ISIS appears and makes everything worse than it was before.
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>>675866299
nothing to do with being a chickenshit. this is warfare in the nuclear age, war by proxy with plausible deniability

i hope the kremlin pays decently for being a shill
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>>675860820
>brownnosing for the past 200 years
That's fucking rich given the hundreds of years of European colonialism, including Sykes-Picot
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>>675863235
>no war
>ukraine
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>>675864713
the boys are all fags.
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>>675858471
No one wanted you to go in. Literaly the whole world said that was the most stupid thing to do. And what terrorist was Iraq hiding? Saddam actually executed terrorists. Saddam, Assad and all the other dictators in near east been the only ones that could hold terrorism down. And what happened when US, UK and FR removed all the dictators? ISIS appears and makes everything worse than it was before.
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>>675857809
...and how exactly do you propose we do this?
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>>675858471
Dick Cheney would be proud of you!
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>>675869071
Well maybe all that stuff wouldn't have happened if the UK and France didn't fuck up the middle east after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire.
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>>675869367
It actually was one woman who fucked that up. I forgot her name but she was with the zionist movement and got UK and FR to draw borders on the map and create space for Israel.
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>>675867828
It's the post nuclear age idiot.

You stupid fucks are still trying to use cold war colonialism and spook tactics to run the world - it didn't even work back then. Do you think the same old dumb ideas have improved with age?

How many times did your secret service fail to get Castro?

The US right now is in the same position that the European powers were in in World War I - crumbling empires, totally obsolete strategy, and a useless ruling class.
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>>675857809
Stupidest bait of the year. Congratulations
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The first people to attack the US after it came into existence (besides Britain) were muslims, the barbary pirates, attacking US shipping.
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>>675869829
>>675869367
Gertrude Bell
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>>675863375
Nope, after the revolution in 1979 Iraq invade Iran in 1980 and after that war, Iraq invaded Kuwait.. All of that was financed and made with EEUU (and some russian) weapons in both sides.
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>>675871019
Iraq invaded Iran on advise of USA but didn't come far so they turned around to get the Oil in Kuvait what USA didn't like again and started the first gulf war.
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>>675864297
But not the O.N.U... Oh! Right, that's for poor countries.. The richest just fuck international laws every morning..
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>>675864911
Is not sustainable if you eat like a pig and change your cell phone/car/computer/toaster/etc every year.. And in the meantime you go on car two blocks away to buy some chips and don't walk for a year..

The "american way of life" in unsustainable.
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>>675871019
Chickenhead ho Kuwait goes over to Saddams place crying about Iran.

Saddam gets US support to fight Kuwaits proxy war against Iran, but then Kuwait skipped out on the bill.

Saddam comes around to collect, Kuwait pulls the same drama to get stormin norman to go after Saddam.

Everyone got played by Kuwait.
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>>675872233
What the fuck does that have to do with the Iraq war? Europeans and others just like to use the legitimate criticism of the Iraq war to vent stupid inferiority complex anger that has nothing to do the conflict.
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>>675857809
Why not both?
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>>675858471
You voted for Bush, huh?
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>>675858486
You forgot Desert Storm.
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>>675859051
You keep forgetting Desert Storm.
Jesus Christ man, do I gotta fix everything for you?
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>>675866030
That was during the invasion later they deployed a couple thousand (gotta suck dat US dick too keep em Ruskis away)
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>>675866666
quints speak the truth!
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>>675864851
>not a single western fanatic to at least drop a bomb there.

Give it a few decades.

The Islam problem isn't going to go away any time soon. The spate of bombings and shootings in recent years is going to intensify greatly in the coming years. Currently the reaction is to appease the savages because, as we've all been repeatedly told, Islam is a religion of peace. The almost constant terrorist attacks by Muslims are an anomaly, and definitely don't represent the attitudes of a significant percentage of Muslims.

We've been sold that shit for a while now and people will buy it for a while to come, but eventually it will reach the point where any idiot can see it was a lie designed to pacify the masses and prevent wholesale 'counter-slaughter'. Eventually, people will realise that Islam really does need to be eradicated. Then you'll start to get your 'haram bombings'.
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>>675872918
The Iraq war functioned as an economic bailout - vast amounts of public money were given to private companies to fight it.

Increasingly large bailouts are necessary for the US economy to function because the american way of life is unsustainable.
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>>675874809
So an economic bailout for corporations who live like the Wolf of Wall Street-- something that admittedly is a completely unsustainable lifestyle-- somehow translates to benefits to the rest of Americans? What kind of trickle down bullshit is this?
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>>675874809
Yea, so what do you propose?
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>>675857809
muslims will still find a way to think they are the victims, so they can act like assholes
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>>675857809
Yeah bro, because you know about business.
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>>675857809
It's funny because Trump actually wants to stop doing interventions for the NATO
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>Typical american thinking it's all the US's fault
Fuck off.
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>>675874405
Trauma pushes humans towards extremism.

Nobody is suggesting these terrorist attacks are an anomaly - just that they are directly proportional to how fucked up the middle east is.

Throughout history, whenever this shit goes down in areas dominated by non-muslims the exact same thing happens.

Forget about your dumb eye for an eye shit and start fighting the real enemy.
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>>675857809
Why not both?
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>>675857809
>But fuck common sense, right guys?

Yes. Fuck it right in the butt. Raw. No lube.

It likes it like that.
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>>675858274
Saddam should have been removed after the Gulf War.

>taking a megalomaniac mass murderers side just because you and your edgy friends like to hate the U.S.
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>>675875063
OK I'll bite. Private war costs too much and achieves nothing but more private war. The US needs to take all that economic effort and put it towards something with sustainable benefit to the american people - just like the founding fathers did and the original capitalists who built the country.

Trouble is the US has had the military dial set to 11 for so long that any reduction in military spending is going to be seen as weak foreign policy, so anyone who openly proposes it is going to get rekd by other would-be superpowers.

So we need a big skunkworks military project, to dig a high speed rail tunnel from syria to china, and a mass media and religious brainwashing campaign to convince ISIS they'll be happier in Beijing, and the Maoists are the real enemies of Islam.

The two most stubborn isolationist cultures on earth can then have decades to get to know each other while we get back to building the future.
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>>675876617
>Trauma pushes humans towards extremism.

Apparently so does backwards, violent superstitious cults. You think all those suicide bombers acted because they were personally traumatised by some burger muncher?

>Nobody is suggesting these terrorist attacks are an anomaly

Universities throughout the Western world are full of people who will tell you that Islamic terrorism is the result of a minuscule minority of Islamic extremists and that there is practically no amount of extremist support from all those peace loving 'normal Muslims'.

>Throughout history, whenever this shit goes down in areas dominated by non-muslims the exact same thing happens.

Is there really a decent historical comparison to modern Islamic terrorism? Seems like a fairly unique situation to me.

>Forget about your dumb eye for an eye shit.

I'm not an 'eye for an eye' kind of guy. I'm a 'cut away cancer' kind of guy. Islam is very obviously a cancer.

>start fighting the real enemy.

Who's that? The big bad corporatiooons, maaan? Please.
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>>675878162
Contemplating....
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>>675858486
WUT? Sadama Hosseine was your muder Poster boy after the iranian fiasco. That guy smacked everyone raising his head left and right. Al-Quaida declared the iraq no go under sadam husseine. That guy liked his total power too much to share it with allah or decentralized terror groups! Get your faggts straigth!
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>>675861429
he knew how Belgium was going end up.
and iraq.
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>>675871620
>O.N.U.
>spanish speaking idiotic commie
That's why your fucking cesspool of a country does not develop: Because there's a shitton of fucking butthurt envious socialists just like you, unlike in developed countries where legalized robbing from the government does not fit into people's mind.
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>>675878901

You make some valid points. I think the main problem with the argument is the scale is wrong.

You are correct, there are a lot of islamic extremists, but academics are correct too - it is a miniscule minority of islamists who are extremists or terrorists - because there's a friggin enormous number of people following islamic faiths.

You're talking about cutting away an awful lot of cancer - and history has shown that kind of approach fails consistently at much smaller scales and with far less "extreme" extremists.
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>>675880411
The endgame would be to eliminate the real cancers, which would be any religious followers.
There is no correct religion.
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Religion is cancer to the world. Nothing good has come out of it(Especially ones that don't adapt to society and are still in the FUCKING STONE AGE.) on the other hand SCIENCE.
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>>675864851
do you seriously think that will solve the problem?
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>>675863989
>Kurdistan
>Country
Yeah I think most people disagree with that.
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Story of how USA fucked EU:

>be usa
>get 9/11'd by sandniggers because various reasons (some my own fault)
>cry really hard and act as if I did nothing wrong so the people that elect me and big bro EU support me.
>retaliate x100 fuck sandnigger civilians I want dat dank oil.
>sandniggers pissed cuz I killed their families
>some of them migrate because they are fleeing from the mess I made or they are looking for revenge.
>I dont want any of these fucks in my country, capatalism hoo! fuck empathy
>let EU deal with that shit because socialism and empathy and gay shit
>EU's socialistic system isnt built to deal with the flood of unproductive sandniggers
>point at EU and tell them its what they get for not embracing capatalism
>continue to bomb sandnigger civilians cuz no fucks given
>'murrica
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>>675858075
Literally every war since WWII. And this is coming from an American's mouth.
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>>675881916
So what I'm hearing is the EU let in pissed off, violent people from a pissed off, violent religion, and are now really shocked and upset that they are pissed off and violent.
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>>675881916
One of the most idiotic things I've read.
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>>675880411
yeah 1.5 billion muslims, lets say there are 1 million extremists and we are pretty much fucked, even wrose thing is that rest of those are cheering them whenever kaffir dies, so many cases in western school among muslim students

they also protect them and dont call police on them, the paris terrorist was hiding for 4 month in molenbeek (moslim ghetto of Brussels)
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>>675881916
you forgot part where half of africa and middle east said fuck it and are faking refugee stories and stuff to get to sweet sweet germoney and swedish gibs
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>>675880998
I agree.

The end game is we want no people who are willing to die for their religion.

If their life is so fucked and/or they're so brainwashed that they're willing to blow themselves up in the first place, there is no amount of military power that can move us towards this end game.

ISIS has a vast media unit and operates 24 hour pan islamist patriotic television services. They produce hundreds of high quality pieces of media every day.

That is the battlefield we need to be fighting on - the one that builds a bridge between the kids who are today watching this ISIS programming in Syria and the rest of the free world outside of Islam.

That is the victory over Islam that will end all this bullshit.
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>>675881872
It is definitely a step in the proper direction.

If there are no concrete or tangible religious symbols it is easier to put religion in the past.
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>>675857809
why not both?
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>>675882559
That is why I want to work for the NSA.
That is where that would happen.
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>>675881916
And this is why the world hates americans
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>>675882584
what do you think the extremist muslims' reactions will be? ok we give up lulz?
it'll be worse than it's ever been.
they view the Western world as evil and every time they blow up a westerner they are doing Allah's work.
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>>675880411
Look I get that with over a billion adherents, obviously not all of them are foaming-at-the-mouth wacko extremists. Of course.

But read up on how many people in Muslim-majority countries believe in literal interpretations of the Koran--including agreeing with the notion that apostates should be put to death. That alone should give pause to even the most indoctrinated of PC they're-the-religion-of-peace-you-guys campus liberals.
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>>675866666
you don't deserve quints you stupid faggot, the refugees are a bio weapon with a humanitarian masquerade
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>>675883137
They wouldn't know who did it because whoever was involved wouldn't say a damn thing.

When they start acting up then the people of civilized countries will sign the correct legislation into effect to solve the problem.
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>>675882584
yes because the roman empire did such a great job stamping out Christianity
also, Spanish inquisition worked too, right?
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>>675857809

- Who did the Belgians invade?
- His Excellency openly criticizes the Iraq, Libya, and Syrian interventions.

Muzzies are a disaster -- granted a lot of that is their genetic lack of intelligence and impulse control -- everywhere in the West they go.

There are 49 -- yes, FORTY.FUCKING.NINE -- majority Muslim nations.

Let the rapefugees take their pick of them.
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>>675883606
faggot
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>>675883629
We have technology that would actually allow us to to do that. We just need the people who have access to it to use it.
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>>675861929
>kid whose lunch money Iraq steals everyday
im not following this part too well

<s>fucking high over here</s>
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>>675857809
>instead of setting off bombs and shooting people in the name of their faith, Muslims should assimilate to the country they immigrate to or gtfo

but fuck common sense, right guys?
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>>675876617
>Trauma pushes humans towards extremism.

The "Belgians" who attacked Paris and Brussels are 2nd and 3rd generation Europeans -- What trauma did they suffer other than their Muzzie uncles and cousins fucking them up the ass?

None.

They belong to a faith whose holy writ demands they kill non- Muslims.

They follow the example of a man who was meek and mild when week, but became a warlord once he had enough followers to conquer.
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>>675857809
2000 years ago the christians/catholics started this shit.

They were the first to invade muslimia or w/e it's called.

Stop religion stop war.
(religious war anyway, which is 99% of all wars).

Only retards believe in the bible or Quran.
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>>675882264
You're right. Those muslims are living in Belgium, but isolated from the Belgians by their ghetto.

They have limited connection with Belgian society because they either can't work or can't find work, and they have more faith in their religion and its leaders than in Belgian government institutions.

It's a shit environment and it breeds extremism, and it exists because no politician can survive the electoral backlash from the opposing side and the media if they back a solution (spend the money to properly rehabilitate and integrate them, or deport them)

We're arguing over whether to take the pot off the stove or turn down the gas while the stew burns.
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>>675883623
who else would do such a thing? no muslim would ever dare desecrate their sacred space rock
just because there's no concrete proof that a certain someone is responsible for something, doesn't mean it'll stop people from making assumptions and acting on those assumptions
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>>675882127
Yep, yeah and yes
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USA is a nation founded via terror/theft/murder and so on.

Not much has changed.

70 mil indians killed.
Stole all Englands land, ships, assets, then waged a war - after stealing their land.

America must be crushed.

(I'm not a terrorist btw, I just think USA needs to fuck off)

Wankers.
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>>675884333
It doesn't matter.
Shit we can blame it on a rogue pilot who went off mission and had a schizophrenic attack.
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ITT: retarded fucks who actually want a "global government"
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>>675883865
I'm sorry
crushing a world view or an ideology isn't as easy as killing everyone who believes it to be true.
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>>675884314
>islam existed 2000 years ago
>the crusades happened 2000 years ago
And this is the kind of history illiterates who dare to talk about the facts. Get out antifaboy
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>>675883606
>bio weapon
What the fuck is this? Resident Evil?
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>>675883943
He means the terrorists.
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>>675884813
Christians started it.

#dealwithit
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>>675884592
See >>675879870
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>>675884923
See
>>675883006
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>>675884622
"oh did your white house blow up after that plane destroyed the Kaaba? *shrug* Must have been an extremist."
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>>675884325
>You're right. Those muslims are living in Belgium, but isolated from the Belgians by their ghetto.

By their choice.

>They have limited connection with Belgian society because they either can't work or can't find work, and they have more faith in their religion and its leaders than in Belgian government institutions.

They'll always have more faith in their Koran.

They can't find work because there is little use in advanced nations for people with IQs of 85 who further lower their value by demanding that employers stop operations while they go pray.

They aren't poor. They're well fed. They have good healthcare. They are treated fairly by the Belgians.

They are violent and impulsive people whose ideology demands they kill people who don't buy the ridiculous claims of their despicable prophet.
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Basically yeah. America should just send troops to all friendly countries in that area only to ensure none of them get out while they tear each other apart.
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>>675868760
Knows nothing about the conflict in Ukraine
- the post.
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I am Australian so my IQ is really high.
You people are American so your IQ is low as fuck.

HAH.

How's it feel to be known as the dumbest country in the world - even more so than Uzbekistan for example?

Haha. Nation of retards.
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>>675884737
Who said kill anything?
I just said the technology is available.
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>>675884896
No, the Jews started it.
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>>675883254
I agree with you. Their societies are decades or centuries behind ours by just about any measure, and because of their intense social conservatism they're easy to corral and brainwash and so they're waking up damn slowly.

Trouble is the gun isn't gonna wake em up. Breaking that traditional respect for their elders might.

Don't worry about those campus idiots - they've been given their first spoon of critical thinking and have then immediately jumped off the deep end. They're the same types who backed Pol Pot for fucks sake.
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>>675885174

Muslim "Europeans" in their own words.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44vzMNG2fZc
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>>675884731
>I've heard a lot about the dangers of a one world government and so I know that it's an absolutely terrible idea, although I'm not entirely sure why...
>I guess because the Illuminati and stuff? All I know is it's evil.
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>>675885118
We are smart enough to know the white house is just a building.
Also I sure how we have the tracking technology where that is impossible to happen.
It wouldn't make sense otherwise.
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>>675885387
>Do not ignore me Amerifags
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>>675866667
>he knew that any actual American effort would bring in the Chinese

China and North Vietnam were enemies, and had fought a border war several years before the Vietnam War began. The threat was Russian intervention. China and Russia were also very hostile to each other. Had they, then China very likely would have gone to war with both.

Why the fuck the US chose to get involved is beyond retarded. Three enemies killing the fuck out of each other, is better than two enemies, half-assed supporting a third enemy we are involved in a quagmire with.
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>>675885393
see >>675864851
the little white dots in the pic that this post is responding to are people. probably close to 100k
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>>675857809
>hurdur stop invading!
>>terrorism in europe
>hurdur y is obama not helping omffg
it's like the whining shits of the world just trying to backseat driver the power countries. sad thing is we actually entertain their whining.
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>>675884896
When do you imagine this took place?

Musliam aggresians against europe started long before the first crusade.
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>>675874405
The sooner the better, anon.
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>>675857809
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra45nX9JmW4
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>>675869945
>>675869945
and europe is ... where now? prosperity?
oh fuck i did a spit-take.
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>>675886347
Keep faith. Europa shall endure.
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>>675885848
Ho Chi Minh actually fought the Japanese in World War 2.

North Vietnam had continuously been making diplomatic overtures to the US for their help in order to stand up to China once they'd ejected their French colonial masters, because Ho Chi Minh saw Vietnams struggle against the French as the exact same deal the British tried to force upon America.
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>>675878162
>control their media networks
>jews are spectacular at this
>send an army of jews
>brainwash ISIS
>wololo was effective
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>>675885561
suicide bomber
and the white house was just to accentuate my point, which is that if their holiest of holies was desecrated and innocent lives were taken in the process they'd look for a scapegoat. and no matter what the target of their vengeance was (white house, twin towers, pentagon, whatever) they could just as easily play the card you suggested we could play: "i dunno it wasn't me"
eye for an eye doesn't solve anything, it just snowballs until either everyone is dead or they forget why they got triggered in the first place
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>>675857809

Do you like your $1.76 gallon of gas, $3.00 gallon of milk, $30 pair of decent shoes, cheap clothing, cheap water, cheap electricity, cheap clothes, cheap food, and basic amenities?

That doesn't happen without global market cooperation. When Saddam wanted to change the oil standard from dollar to Euro, it threatened that global marketplace. America came in and made it right. The second invasion was more or less the same reason.

You can cry and bitch all you want but you using technology that costs resources to make, which had to be shipped to you, which costs resources, and finally plugged into some power source which guess what? Using resources.

I'm sure you like all the benefits of those wars without appreciating how they arrived. If you really want to change something go be a hermit in the woods until we cut down your home for paper and you can be another homeless mentally insane burd n of society. Then we can use our resources to ship you to Florida where you can be with your own kind.
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>>675886941
Hahahaha, ISIS is a jew puppet. Why would they "brainwash" their own tools. ISIS creates an excuse for the flood of migrants we see heading for Europe. This flood of migrants will destroy the ethnic groups in Europe, it will destroy any and all forms of unity that the individual countries and thus undermine the nation state leaving Europe open for a globalist government.
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>>675886462
Yes. Strangely still quite prosperous despite acting as a disposable buffer zone between the US and their enemies abroad for at least the last 80 years.
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>>675885479
I'm not suggesting genocide or even anti-Muslim violence. I'm just suggesting a less soft-hearted approach to people who couldn't care less about the well being of the kafir, and who in fact make no bones about their desire to see all kafir wiped out. Let them preach that shit in their deserts, to each other. Don't allow the non-civilized in to civilization. I know that's easier said than done, and I know that that the simplicity of the appeal makes me sound like some sort of Trump-supporting American idiot.

But it is now necessary. They must be excluded. All of them. It's a necessary evil.
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Why do you hate trump? Because he doesn't reward lazy fucks like OP with free shit? That must be why you libtards love Muslims.
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>>675857809
Nuke them till they glow.
Shoot them in the dark.

They hate you, quit being a boot licker.
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>>675885387
>>675885688

Just because you try ignore it - does not mean it never happened.

You people are dumb as fuck.

#Dealwithit.
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>>675887926
I suppose I see the isolation as the thing that enables the violence.

I am not saying we should be welcoming stubbornly monocultural peoples - just that the only way to reduce the influence of Islam is for enough of those who follow it to have positive experiences of something else outside of their isolated Islamic communities to be able to seriously doubt radical Islamic ideas when they come across them.

You can't do that by directly attacking their culture because for the older ones it is all they know, and they will indoctrinate the youth against you.
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>>675863852
its because ho chi minh was an asshole and had no problem killing countless number of his own people, no one could protest in north vietnam and say "hey maybe we should just let the south stay a democracy" the real losers of the vietnam war were the south vietnamese they died in the hundreds of thousands to stop the communists from taking over theyre country and in the end we abandoned them and the people that dared to hope, dared to believe in america were left to die.
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>>675887926
>non-civilized
the middle east was the epicenter of scientific and mathematic progress until islam reared its ugly head.
the current state of the middle east isn't indicative of its capacity to operate as a civilization.
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>>675858075
Plan Condor
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>>675886881
I've always thought it a travesty that we went to war with them. I've know numerous Viets over the years, and one of my closest friends is one. They're good people. I highly respect them, and their culture.

And speaking of Japan, it's equally a travesty that they pretty much got away with the shit they did. Douglas MacArthur was in such a hurry to stabilize and rebuild Japan, that they barely even got a slap on the wrist. Germany has had to pay out the ass (and rightfully so) for it's crimes, and so too should have the Japs.

That alienated much of South Asia, against us, plus it was as good as spitting in the faces of men like my grandpa who went to fight the savages. They committed atrocities against US and British POWs and civilians, with the same brutality, and complete disregard for human life as they did other Asians. Basically, fuck Japan. I wish we had of dropped more A-bombs on them.
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>>675885483
How in the fuck did they let this happen?
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>>675889359
>This

Notice how the Amerifag are too busy debating shit they have no idea about with their boyfriends to pay attention to how you pointed out the fact that they are literally the dumbest nation in the world.
This is naturally according to localized I.Q. scores.

You will soon see if an American reads this, that he will try claim an I.Q. test means nothing 'in the real world' - which is total fallacy - as that is the whole reason an I.Q. test exists.

Lol USA.

Amazing.
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>>675889900
s*
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>>675857809
>instead of starting a war with a country, we should not start a war with a country
nice meme you probably found on 9gag faggot
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>>675886881
you know what ho chi minh did for years? he slaughtered Vietnamese nationalists that wanted independence from the french. he was a snake and backstabber but the undisputed master of propaganda its amazing so many people today remain ignorant of his many crimes.
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>>675889900
I am an American and I support this message.
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>>675857809
Too much for american brain
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>>675857809
OP is huge faggot and needs to go be a shill somewhere else mabe redit or hell
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>>675858807
faggot
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>>675890121
It must be nice not being able to read
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>>675890354
you're welcome to not be a faggot and tell us how OP is wrong
protip: can you?
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>>675890258
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>>675890574
>protip: can you?
protip: that's not really a protip
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>>675889452
The south was never a democracy. The leaders were puppets and corruption and election rigging were overt and mainstream.

Corruption is still a huge problem in the south today. Also if you have a south vietnamese loyalist family name, good fucking luck getting a northern job or access to a northern university.
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>>675889798

The Viet Minh then collaborated with French colonial forces to massacre supporters of the Vietnamese nationalist movements in 1945-6.[42] The Communists eventually suppressed all non-Communist parties but failed to secure a peace deal with France. In the final days of 1946, after a year of diplomatic failure and many concessions in agreements such as the Dalat and Fontainebleau conferences, the Democratic Republic of Vietnam government found that war was inevitable.
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>>675890489
it must be nice not knowing what happens when you kick a specific type of person out of a country
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>>675890258
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>>675887153
But the collection of atomic material that is the white house is just protons, neutrons, and electrons. The less intelligent religious fanatics think that their magical space rock is something different, but it is not.

The effect will be far greater and more effective on them.
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>>675889900
IQ statistics are skewed due to the fact that in other countries they cheat or face having to work in a sweatshop or shitty factory because they didnt get accepted to university. Asians arent better at math. This is why the US is still the leader in manufacturing and technology. The truth is if youre from a 2nd or 3rd world country or asian, you're most likely a dumb fuck. Deal with it you stupid ignorant fuck. I'm smarter than you, and i have clean drinking water.
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>>675890806
n February 1950, after the successful removal of the French border's blockade,[45] Ho met with Stalin and Mao Zedong in Moscow after the Soviet Union recognized his government. They all agreed that China would be responsible for backing the Viet Minh.[46] Mao's emissary to Moscow stated in August that China planned to train 60,000–70,000 Viet Minh in the near future.[47] The road to the outside world was open for Viet Minh forces to receive additional supplies which would allow them to escalate the fight against the French regime throughout Indochina. In 1954, after the crushing defeat of French Union forces at Battle of Dien Bien Phu, France was forced to give up its fight against the Viet Minh. The Viet Minh assassinated between 100,000 and 150,000 civilians during the war.[48]
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>>675858140
Yup. Browns out and out of Brown. That should be trumps motto
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>>675889452
It's more complicated than that. North Vietnam got involved when the civil war in the south started spilling over their border. They originally wanted no part of it.

And fighting them wasn't so bad. I mean it was war, but they looked like fucking soldiers, and attempted to fight more conventionally. It was the south who turned it into a huge clusterfuck. Neither the US nor the North Vietnamese knew exactly whose side anyone in the South was on.
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>>675890921
Just shush.
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>>675857809
Ya lets just let them fuck each other up and not help
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>>675890818
Pretty sure I do actually
your country turns into a fascist dictatorship like Germany was
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>>675890806
The 1954 Geneva Accords concluded between France and the Viet Minh, allowing the latter's forces to regroup in the North whilst anti-communist groups settled in the South. Ho's Democratic Republic of Vietnam relocated to Hanoi and became the government of North Vietnam, a communist-led one-party state.

Following the Geneva Accords, there was to be a 300-day period in which people could freely move between the two regions of Vietnam, later known as South Vietnam and North Vietnam. More than 1 million North Vietnamese people fled to the South, while a much smaller number moved North.[49] It is estimated that as many as two million more would have left had they not been stopped by the Viet Minh.[5
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>>675890963
Please see
>>675889900
>You will soon see if an American reads this, that he will try claim an I.Q. test means nothing 'in the real world' - which is total fallacy - as that is the whole reason an I.Q. test exists.

Lol USA.

Amazing.
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>>675857809
Second part is true, but why would you let a group of people in your country when you invaded theirs? That's like shooting someone then turn around and take them to your house to treat them.
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>>675890806
In North Vietnam during the 1950s, political opposition groups were suppressed; those publicly opposing the government were imprisoned in hard labor camps. Many middle-class, intellectual Northerners had been lured into speaking out against Ho's communist regime, and most of those who did were later imprisoned in gulags or executed; this became known as the Nhân Văn–Giai Phẩm affair. Some prisoners died of exhaustion, starvation, illness (often having received no medical attention), or assault by prison guards. Political scientist R. J. Rummel suggests a figure of 24,000 camp deaths during Ho's rule of North Vietnam between 1945 and 1956.[54]

The government launched "rent reduction" and "land reform" programs, which resulted in significant political oppression. Declassified Politburo documents confirm that 1 in 1,000 North Vietnamese (i.e., about 14,000 people) were the quota targeted for execution during the "rent reduction" campaign.[55] During the land reform, testimony from North Vietnamese witnesses suggested a ratio of one execution for every 160 village residents
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>>675859229
Did you really just say that nigger? You think that shit gonna be free?
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>>675890574
Protip: Protips are statements not questions you fucking retard
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>>675891288
>American trying to seem intelligent by arguing with 14 year old /b/ tards.

LOL!
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>>675857809
That would have been nice if we didn't invade them to begin with, but it's too damn late for that approach now.
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>>675891236

America took in refugees during Vietnam and Iraq
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>>675891023
Widespread use of terror. Murder, kidnapping, torture and general intimidation were a routine part of VC/NVA operations and were calculated to cow the populace, liquidate opponents, erode the morale of GVN government employees, and boost tax collection and propaganda efforts.[95] This extensive use of terror on a daily basis received comparatively little attention from Western journalists occupied with covering the big unit war.[96] Terror was meant to demonstrate that both the rural and urban dweller were powerless against the Viet Cong and that the government could not protect them. Terror extended beyond targeted murders and kidnappings, and included the frequent mortaring of civilians in refugee camps, and the placing of mines on highways frequented by villagers taking their goods to urban markets. Some mines were set only to go off after heavy vehicle passage, causing extensive slaughter aboard packed civilian buses.[96]
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>>675889860
Liberal Globalist government, know allowing refugees to cause terror attacks and civil unrest will lead to larger government.

They see remaking society by destroying it.

Not all Muslims are terrorists and commit Jihad. In truth not all Muslims are practicing Islam as interpreted by Muhammad. If they did practice Islam as view Muhammad as the perfect Muslim then they would commit Holy War or support it. They would also teach their kids, Jihadists are heroes.

Jihadists say: can you really say Muhammad didn't have the only correct interpretation of Islam and was not the perf example.

Most Muslims are ok, they know if they support it it's social suicide in democracy. (but really inside, they hear the latest Jihadist attack they are thinking about the stories they heard and heroism.)

It just depends on how westernized they are and how much they have given up on devotion. Other ones just cherry picking Koran and hadith stuff they want while ignoring the Jihad.


It's kinda like being a christian and practicing it, going to church and shit, opposed to someone who is nice to people and says they are christian.
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>>675891321
so I'm breaking the barriers
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when terrorists kill your parents you gunna change your mind
at least, do you know what usa does in their countrys? did you noticed alot of ppl died when usa left the army off their country? u a fedorafaggot
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>>675891504
nother terror method involved deliberate random shelling of populated areas with 122-mm rockets. Areas victimized included Saigon, Danang and other major cities.[97] At other times the Viet Cong eschewed the use of stand-off weapons and directly attacked villages and hamlets with the express intention of killing men, women and children to sow havoc, panic and insecurity. A 1968 attack on the hamlet of Son Tra in Quang Ngai province for example, used flamethrowers to incinerate 78 civilians, wounded many more, and destroyed most of the hamlet.[98]
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>>675891504
you are such a faggot

this thread is not about Vietnam
we did not kick Vietnamese people out of the US
ever
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>>675889798
Absolutely right about the Japs getting off easy. I had a great uncle imprisoned by them in Changi.

The tension never really went away in the region. The south china sea thing we're about to see kick off has the potential to make Syria look like a broadway musical.
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>>675857809
Trump was against the Iraq war, though.
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>>675864050
Ha ha ha! Listen to all the butt hurt Europoors.

>Murika is invading countries
>Murika help us!
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>>675891471
Not a smart play. Leveling buildings to get one guy is bound to breed animosity in the refugees that had family there. I can see why they might act out in their host countries.
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>>675891877
Yep and Hilary supported it yet she has the Muslim vote.

it's a total mindfuck.

Illuminati confirm.
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>>675885387
Australia, a nation built from deported degenerates. Trust me, you are the least evolved western nation. And honestly, the smartest thing your country has done is to mimic American way of life. Sit the fuck down, mate.
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Have you ever had a steak before /b/?
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>>675858570

America is not going to war to police the world you retard. I thought Americans were smart enough that your country is going to war because of resources?
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>>675891877
No he wasn't
Trump was against the way it was handled
which is just about as retarded
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>>675891742
ok

he Iraqis began using the helicopters as gunships to put down the uprisings.[23] The outgunned rebels had little heavy weapons and few surface-to-air missiles, which made them almost defenseless against helicopter gunships and indiscriminate artillery barrages when the Ba'athists responded to the uprisings with crushing force. According to Human Rights Watch, "in their attempts to retake cities, and after consolidating control, loyalist forces killed thousands of anyone who opposes them whether a rebel or a civilian by firing indiscriminately into the opposing areas; executing them on the streets, in homes and in hospitals; rounding up suspects, especially young men, during house-to-house searches, and arresting them with or without charge or shooting them en masse; and using helicopters to attack those who try to flee the cities."[24]
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>>675857809

I find it funny that so many people think that if the US stopped invading that they'd stop killing us, but that's not exactly how it works now is it. That logic states that the Muslim terrorists are killing us in retaliation for us killing them, yet they kill more innocent people in any given time frame than America soldiers do. They slaughter innocent women, men and children and raze entire cities then come into our countries, kill us and blame their actions on the invasion of their homeland. Too many people are so blinded by the popularity contest of politics that they fail to see past the ends of their noses, it's not difficult to spot the patterns that are emerging and patterns tell the truth.

Muslims should be kicked out of our countries, even though it goes against some of my morals, because it's the best and safest option. We can't tell the difference between a good Muslim and a bad Muslim and the good Muslims simply refuse to stand up and fight, in any way they can, for the honour of their religion. They are happy to sit back and allow the rest of the world to see them as vermin and if they're happy with that, we're happy with that. People think ISIS are stupid, but they're not at all. They know exactly how powerful they are right now, even though it may not be with fire power. The amount of fear and confusion, the rifts, caused by the presence of apologetic and idle Muslims in our countries is their biggest strength right now and we need to cripple that strength. This is no longer about human rights, about morals and solidarity, this is about war and about who wins and who loses. The way that our countries are going, I'd say we're going to lose.
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>>675892042
Except they haven't. inb4 extremists
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>>675866666
I don't think kids these days know what literally means

>trump is literally hitler
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>>675890921
no, you're missing the point
the point is that if we do something like bomb Mecca, all it will do is make them hate us even more than they do now. They will point to the bodies of the dead hadji in and around the Kaaba and the faces of the dead will fuel the fires of retribution already burning in their hearts and they will strike out with a fury that will make the World Trade Center look like a birthday party.
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>>675892150
>american muslims
>liking saddam
Bush is actually pretty danm popular amongst american Muslims.
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>>675889605
I'm not saying Middle Easterners are incapable of civilization. I'm saying that Muslims should not be allowed to participate in Western civilization, because their beliefs are anathema to secular Western notions of progress. This fact needs to be recognized.

>>675889376
Isolation will enable some violence, but not as much as a flood-gates-open approach to the poor brown people who just want a better life in a nice clean Western country.

Most will never be grateful. They will never be productive. They will be resentful. They will be self-isolating, in their own ghettos/communities, where their barbarism will breed just like it does in their native lands.

If they consider themselves Muslim, they should simply not be allowed in to a non-Muslim country. Western Imperialism should cease entirely. American military presence in all majority-Muslim countries should discontinue. Take away as many of their flimsy excuses for violence as possible.

The main reason this won't happen is greed, because the US has far too many involvements with the Saudis. The economic backlash would be felt for decades. But it would be worthwhile, to cut away involvement with the cancer of the ME.

As a white South African, I know that forcing civilization on barbarians isn't feasible. They should be left to their own primitive dealings, and excluded from that which they are not capable of comprehending, and are thus opposed to.
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>>675892687
source: mybigass.com
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>>675892524
Are you American?
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>>675892671
No I get what you are saying.
There will be nothing to pray to if Mecca is wiped out. It will look ridiculous when people are praying to something that not longer has any significance and will help tear down what religion stands for.
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>>675892782
sorry wasn't aware your bullshit xenophobic opinion was "fact"
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