Hey Eurofags, who do you think represent the most the USA ? Trump or Hilary ?
that's so funny USA is totally fucked up
Before we would have the authoritarian vs the cool guy now we have ... psycho 1 vs psycho 2 ? Macho Psycho vs Satanic Psycho
i think Macho Psycho is still better but it doesn't really matter since it's the big corporations and wall street that will win
>implying Trump will ever do anything for the country
Kek, he'll just dump money into making "the wall" and put the nation further into debt. Not voting for a bigot.
>>696517661
Yeah it's totally fucked up we're going to elect someone dedicated and qualified like Clinton and dump Trump.
We're the most fucked up country ever, OP.
>>696518510
Whoever made this comic doesn't understand how they decide who's on the money.
In order to be on U.S. currency, the government looks at presidents that have done great things for the country.
>Washington led the country in its infancy
>Jefferson was one of the authors of the Declaration of Independence
>Lincoln ended slavery and prevented the U.S. from splitting
>Hamilton was first Secretary of Treasury, and was damn good at his job
>Jackson dismantled the 2nd U.S. bank and payed off THE ENTIRE NATIONAL DEBT
>Grant was a Civil War general who later became president
>Franklin was a badass inventor
So, in the author's comic, Trump did something amazing enough to warrant him replacing Washington on the $1 bill.
The author is definitely a libtard.
>>696519113
or more likely you're proving the point that conservatives like you don't get subtle humor
>>696518510
> Implying Hillary won't put us in far more debt like Obama already has.
>>696519266
Nope. This time there isn't a President who foolishly pissed away 6 trillion pushing for an illegal war and nearly tanking the economy like Bush.
>>696519113
>the government looks at presidents that have done great things for the country.
kek
>>696519378
>nearly tanking the economy
>"nearly"
You're fucking adorable.
>>696519531
So Bush did tank the economy.
I'll go with that.
>>696519113
>Jackson dismantled the 2nd U.S. bank and payed off THE ENTIRE NATIONAL DEBT
Teatard confirmed
>>696517661
eurofag here
i think the whole "hillary is as bad as trump" shtick is simply stupid. While she might have her problems, the very idea that the two are comparable is risible.
trump is a narcissistic con artist, anyone who thinks the ideas of "building a border wall" and "preventing muslims from immigrating" make any sense whatsoever is a drooling moron
comparing the two is like saying that a plate full of an insipid meal is the same as a plate full of shit
>>696519694
Not a teatard, just stating facts.
https://us-presidents.insidegov.com/q/31/9699/What-were-President-Andrew-Jackson-s-accomplishments
>>696519263
I get that its supposed to be a jab at Trump for his "controversial" policies, but its so obvious that the author is a globalist, open-all-the-borders type that he implied the president they don't like would put the country in an apocalyptic state.
I'm not saying Trump is an all-around great choice (I'd rather have Gary Johnson sans-TPP), but the comic's bias is astounding.
>>696519911
You only stated how trumo is dumb. Please say how hilary has fucked up. Ill give you a hint, its WAY more then trump has ever done. Now while i go eat this cheeseburger you have fun with your terrorist infested country faggot
>>696517661
gerfag:
i think donald trump represents what most people in the german media would see as a (harsh) stereotype of the america image. loud and hard to take serious his excessive proposals.
clinton seems like the brand of presidents we know. that makes ger less weird. and her being a social democrat (which is what people on the rest of the planet would call the nutty kind of your liberals) is a view germans are used to. i have no doubt hilary clinton fit's european standard of politicians... but if you ask for representing the image of the US as a guiding light for the free world, both candidates stink. clinton in being the "teacher's pet" of the dnc party machine and trump for being a thug who is best not be believed much.
god damn it. just vote for neither already. maybe the parties will present you agreeable candidates next time
>>696517661
>>696519113
>the government looks at presidents
Nice try anon. Who is going on the $20 next?
>>696519378
don't overlook congress
>>696520190
i don't live in a "terrorist-infested" country. I guess you're one of those who watches and believes Fox news.
>>696519911
funny.
europe has border walls and prevents muslims from immigrating.
If I went to a european country that bordered a muslim country and said that it was racist to stop people from walking in illegally would you take it seriously? would you fire all the border guards and take down the razor fences?
Am a Irishfag and to me, Americans seem like fucking idiots. Though I'm sure there are plenty of smart Americans, the majority of them act plain stupid. It's cringe worthy, both Hillary and Trump represent their country brilliantly.
>>696520806
you sound amazingly ignorant
Im voting for hillary
>>696520806
no, we prevent people from fleeing here, anon.
>>696519694
No, Jackson is reviled by anyone studying history. You're basically bragging about someone who killed a social service based on a political vendetta. And you're also pushing the fallacy that having a balanced budget is good thing. Shit costs money, the country takes on debt. What are taxes?
inb4 taxes are theft
>>696520957
Am Amerifat. Can confirm. Most Americans are fucking idiots.
>>696517661
Not hillary
>>696520184
>a globalist, open-all-the-borders type
what is jibberish?
>>696517661
Hard choice really
https://youtube.com/watch?v=5ecEb4tEPic
>>696517661
Trump is the very antithesis of where America would be in ten years, Clinton represents the corrupt political class.
Both do not represent America, but Trump is a necessity to prevent worse things from happening. He's the force that'll make the pendulum start swinging back and that's desperately needed.
>>696521228
>This
its like have Muslims or not choice , fucking easy choice if you lived in one of europes hot zones for a while.
>>696519113
maybe it was just to give this comic a chute ? he could have done it another way but you see the point
>>696520184
yeah it's so shocking anyone would try to show the terrible possible future that might have happened had we elected Trump
>>696517661
i think they both represent the worst of america in a different way.
>>696520184
>for his "controversial" policies,
>quotes
kek
>>696520988
what you are trying to say is that you have nothing meaningful to add to this discussion right?
There is not a single first world country in the world that is ok with having unprotected borders with third world countries, except america.
>>696521330
>Clinton
>corrupt
>because I say so
>>696521228
she's right actually, one of the very few things i agree with her.
>>696521335
fucking easy choice to kick xenophobic dipshits like you out of society
>>696521478
ill bite
>>696521375
Yeah wanting to progress socially like Clinton is proposing, definitely the worst
>>696521508
Wait isnt that what you are against
>kicking people out for their believes
>>696521613
You deserve whatever punishment you have in mind for other innocents.
>>696521433
no, what i am trying to say is that you sound amazingly ignorant
"unprotected borders"
rofl
>>696517661
I really really want Trump to win. I just want to see America tear itself to pieces.
>>696517661
Hey germanfag here. i really hope for you that trump win's. We in germany have a woman in charge and everything is goin to shit. Our Facebook is now monitored by a foundation that is lead by a former Stasi and thinks #gamergate is/was a criminal organisation. There is no free speach in germany anymore you get charged to pay money just for posting "merkel should be stoned" on facebook
if you wanna see for yourself just google "amadeu antinio stiftung"
>>696521551
Lol, I looked up most of these quotes from the Muslim book and none of them match to this picture.
Try again harder next year buddy.
>>696521724
ah, that is funny.
you don't understand english
>>696517661
Eurofag here. Trump is the most representative here. He look dumb, quite retarded in fact. Doesn't understand foreign policies and actually doesn't give a fuck about his own peoples. He's definitely the archetype of the ''proud and dumb'' american that the whole world see. And that actually is SAD SAD SAD SAD.
>>696521854
you want to be 12 judging by your post
that's an odd thing
>>696520420
There are obvious exceptions to the rule, excuse me for not re-reading each word. Hamilton and Franklin weren't presidents, but were important in the development and survival of the US. Harriet did many good things, but I can't decide for sure if forcing Jackson to the back of the dollar (funny how times change) is proper.
>>696521126
>Jackson is reviled by anyone studying history
Wrong. Jackson is a polarizing figure, who's infamous nowadays for the Trail of Tears, but has been the only one to pay off our debt.
>>696521508
>>696521664
And you, quit virtue-signaling.
>>696521944
I do
if you think the southern US border is "unprotected", you are amazingly ignorant.
>>696522035
>but has been the only one to pay off our debt.
>not acknowledging other Presidencies had surpluses
fucking pseudo-historian still hung up on spending arguments XDXD
>>696517661
You say that's so funny, but really when Muslims start taking over Europe soon enough America is gonna be to distracted to save you faggots. Also Russia isn't going to either. you
>>696521917
I looked them up and they do match.
>>696522035
Why, so you can give me a "history" lesson why Ron Paul should be President?
KEKEKEKEKEK
>>696521917
Nice white guilt poster interesting date.
>>696519378
Obama has raised the national debt to over 20 trillion dollars in the last 8 year dumbass.
>>696522294
lying faggot
>>696519589
Its been almost 10 years since he was in office. Shut the fuck up.
The banks tanked the economy you dumb nigger.
So many bad and wrong opinions in here
>>696522421
triggered
>>696521984
Nope, just fucking despise the US. I lived there for 2 years and it's full of complete and utter idiots, I mean proper uneducated, blindly patriotic fat retards. Also it's a shithole, regarding infrastructure and standard of living. Some parts are like a third world country
>>696521955
So you are judging people on their looks , wait thats racist.
>>696522270
>Word Origin and History for racist Expand
1932 as a noun, 1938 as an adjective, from race (n.2); racism is first attested 1936 (from French racisme, 1935), originally in the context of Nazi theories. But they replaced earlier words, racialism (1871) and racialist (1917), both often used early 20c. in a British or South African context. In the U.S., race hatred, race prejudice had been used, and, especially in 19c. political contexts, negrophobia.
via dictionary.reference.com/browse/racist
Took me longer to solve the captcha than prove you wrong.
0/8 try again next summer.
I feel soooo bad for the Americans. I don't know how their country came to having Trump run for president let alone have serious followers that are voting for him. It's really sad.
And funny. And scary.
>>696522122
wikipedia puts the likely number of illegal crossings per year at more than six hundred thousand people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_States
not only is it unprotected, it is apparently racist to try to protect it.
>>696522352
Google it fuckwad. The national debt is approximately $22 trillion as of 2 months ago.
Your precious democrats blow more money than any other political party. Obama and his family alone have spent millions on their damn vacations.
>>696522518
Where did yoh live lol Ive lived in 4 countries, the US the longest and its not bad. I even got paid to not have a job and my kid had free food for 2 years. Please tell me how thats a third world country. No job. Free money. Free food.... America.
>>696522127
https://us-presidents.insidegov.com/q/31/9699/What-were-President-Andrew-Jackson-s-accomplishments
>First and only president to pay off the entire national debt
fact-check every once in a while, kid
>XDXD
does mom know you're on this edgy hacker site?
>>696522207
>quotes around random words to sound more le witty
>bringing up Ron Paul for no reason as some dumb checkmate moment
I didn't expect to cringe this hard.
>>696522485
This isnt your safe space, snowflake.
>>696522735
so you don't know what unprotected means
>>696522588
You dont say when and by who the term/ word racist was invented just the origin word.
"Word Origin and History for racist Expand
1932 as a noun, 1938 as an adjective, from race (n.2); racism is first attested 1936 (from French racisme, 1935), originally in the context of Nazi theories. But they replaced earlier words, racialism (1871) and racialist (1917), both often used early 20c. in a British or South African context. In the U.S., race hatred, race prejudice had been used, and, especially in 19c. political contexts, negrophobia.
via dictionary.reference.com/browse/racist
Took me longer to solve the captcha than prove you wrong."
>0/8 try again next summer.
>>696517661
lmmfao...
hey amerifag,
do you think it does matter anything in anyway who you vote? our ridiculous pseudo-democratic system don't gives a president the competences to do aynthing against the real rulers. who are allways the ones with the money. i don't talk about dollar or euro millionairs... i talk about people who have so much damn real "money" that dollars and euros can't do anything.
as long as you think about "hillary or donnald" you don't think about "capitalism or bust"
>>696519113
Triggered.
>>696522837
So you're a leech? I lived in Boston, then moved down Chicago for the last 6 months.
75 / 14 / 28 / 2
So much leftard samefag
>>696523567
Theres your problem, you live in one of the shittiest cities in the country.
>>696517661
What? Did you think that Commie Bernie SSanders best represented the USA?
>>696523352
If it was invented in 1927, it's origin wouldn't be in 1932, now would it? And if it was by Trotsky, it's first attestation would be in his work, again in 1927, not in 1936. For that matter, It wouldn't be English, since Trotsky didn't speak English and was fluent only in Russian and his native dialect (Suzurgh? Something like that).
I don't give a shit, USA seems fucked anyway, from a eurofags viewpoint.
>>696522770
bruh
>>696517661
After Michelle Obama's brilliant endorsement of Hillary, how could you
not vote for her?
>>696522735
>impliying 600k ppl come here to bomb shit and instor califat
come on we're 67M just here in France
>>696524164
You mean the one Trump's wife delivered?
>>696522735
"But you all fucking illegal??!!??" - native Americans
>>696524162
where's the culture portion ?
murica is definitly a shithole
>>696521126
it's good to buy luisiana.
it's bad to buy votes.
>>696524907
they don't want to get rekt like they rekt the native before, it's kinda logic, when you take a land, you keep it !
>>696522770
Google works for me, does it work for you?
try looking at the United States Budget. Bill Clinton took the US budget from 1.5 to 1.8T in his eight years in power.
Then came little bush and his war, from 1.8T to 4.2T. The worst eight years of US budget expansion in the history of the US.
The 2015 budget of 3.9T is absolutely mindblowing. No republican president would have been able to do much better than Obama (I know, you need to thank the republican congress/senate for a lot of that, but don't forget little bush had both for most of his tenure)
>>696524907
In that case, Taiwan owns mainland China.
And Britain is in control of the US east coast, India, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, Palestine, Egypt, Sudan, etc.
>>696522770
Obama started with a 1.4 Trillion dollar deficit and it's now 438 billion. He also reduced the size of the goverment and never raised taxes.
Bill and Obama have both reduced the deficit. Reagan and the 2 Bushs left office with it higher then the started. Republicans put us in more debt then democratics and Hillary is right the economy dose better under Democrats.
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_deficit_chart.html
>>696525210
True. So shouldnt cry like bitches when others are making a play this time round
>>696523273
it means you have been raised by a single mother, by women teachers while eating tofu.
That, or you are just a woman outright. tits or gtfo.
600k people cross the border a year = unprotected no matter what dictionary you use motherfucker.
>>696521917
During last 30 days, there were 164 Islamic attacks in 28 countries, in which 1596 people were killed and 2418 injured.
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=Last30
>>696522770
Total Federal Government Debt in 2016. At the end of FY 2016 the gross US federal government debt is estimated to be $19.3 trillion, according to the FY17 Federal Budget
Stupid lying faggot trying to tack on extra trillions
just say a nigger President did this
go on
>>696523075
You are checkmated. You're a lolbertarian obsessed with "small government" in a land of 400 millon
>>696525489
You forgot most of Africa though.
>>696517661
Corporations are going to win with either one of them. But only one of them is giving the much needed push back against political correctness.
>>696523075
>>First and only president to pay off the entire national debt
fucking liar
>>696525825
>thereligionofpeace.com
totally not a right-wing blog with an agenda
>>696525621
it's handy when government is divided. people can't push new bullshit so easily.
>>696525927
>needed push back against political correctness.
transslation: someone got mad at me for calling transgendered mentally ill
>>696526021
Agenda or not, it's totally correct about the doctrine of islam.
>>696526084
underrated post
>>696526084
>implying trillions in corporate giveaways isn't bullshit
>>696526163
>totally correct
>my cringing Islamophobic delusion
pick one
>>696526163
Oh so it's not an unbiased source
good to know
>>696524164
>>696526108
I've never called it that, honest. But since you bring it up, it is technically a mental illness. From an evolutionary standpoint it's a huge disadvantage. Being gay is as well, and I have a lot of gay friends. Gay animals also have a mental illness.
>>696517661
Clinton represents progressive America, OP. The DNC adopted a hella-progressive agenda last night with public option for health care, no TPP, a plan for taking down the biggest banks on Wall Street.
Trump is just a selfish chump who wants to cause turmoil. He doesn't have any plan other other than to build a Wall and indict Clinton.
>>696517661
Europoor hungarian here. I'd vote for Trump. He is a douche, but at least not that big of a criminal like the old woman. + Not having rapefugees in your country is worth everything.
I'm happy to live here in this shitty country where no welfareleech raping murdering islamfag wants to stay.
>>696526423
>I didn't bring it up
but obviously you're proving my point
that you hate "political correctness" because you feel you have the right to hate people without consequence. You're the problem, not people trying to change society.
Hillary might be a real selfish piece of shit, but she won't torpedo one of the biggest economies in world through extreme incompetence unlike Trump.
>>696526622
>Europoor hungarian here.
>would vote for a feudal lord like Trump
k
Trump will win
>>696526259
Dude, can't you see that you are the one who has the agenda? You are protecting an ideology which goes against all western liberal values, and you probably have the gull to call yourself a liberal.
Islam is damaging to society, the sooner it is gone the better. I'm not going to protect it because of current trends like you are. This whole division of the left that happened recently revealed who the real liberals were all alone, and who the posers were who would go against liberalism in the name of staying trendy. Liberals are suppose to be rational people.
>>696526755
Has it ever occurred to you that the Hillary hate being spun is because the right-wing considers her a threat to their conservative ideology, and that's why she's always involved in "scandals?"
>>696526880
My agenda is defending the US Constitution against faggots like you. The 1st Amendment prohibits what you want to do.
Period.
>>696526800
A feudal lord would be an improvement for your shit country.
>>696526315
So you can't change your mind on issues?
>>696527032
Just like Communism was such an "improvement" for you sad faggots.
>>696526202
you can't stop it all. there are whatsoever topics that are favoured by both parties like agricultural subsidies especially sugar production. those don't stop even with presidents and congress disagreeing on media focussed stuff
>>696525912
>he can only defend his authoritarian stance with meme language and claims of "it just won't work"
What does a population of 400 million have to relate with granting more freedom to the average person? Are you saying that there'd be an uneven shift of power because there's a lot of people who are getting these new freedoms? What's your fucking point besides slandering?
>>696525967
>list a source
>get called a liar
>>696526725
I don't hate trans people or gays, I had a gay friend over at may place for the last two days, we're extremely close, he even talks to me openly about his gay relationships like another dude would about a straight relationship.
I'm the real fucking deal man, and you can't handle it. You can't stand someone who doesn't see things as black and white. Someone who doesn't care about others opinions, someone who doesn't feel compelled to virtue signal to fit in. I'm a classical liberal, you're a knockoff, an impostor.
>>696527167
Right, you just want to stop the spending the Nigger proposed.
Just say it faggot.
>>696526315
At least she won't suck Putin's cock like trump is already gagging on.
>>696517661
Both equally terrible
>>696527211
Of course small government won't work. You want to cut needed services millions of people depend on. You're a fucking dreamer m8.
Hillary represents the hypocrisy of rich, white liberals.
Trump represents the willful ignorance, xenophobia, arrogance, nationalism, and sheer stupidity of the average American.
>>696521917
quran.com/2:191
quran.com/3:28
quran.com/3:85
quran.com/5:33
quran.com/8:12
quran.com/8:60
quran.com/8:65
quran.com/9:5
quran.com/9:30
quran.com/9:123
quran.com/22:19
quran.com/47:4
Look them up again, here are the links.
>>696527211
You are a liar. The debt is about 19 trillion. Not in the 20s.
>>696526622
>I'm happy to live here in this shitty country where no welfareleech raping murdering islamfag wants to stay.
okay
>>696527027
Islam is not compatible with the constitution. It is a political ideology, it is a form of government. Get that through your thick fucking skull, the sooner you do the better.
>>696527375
faggot
>>696518510
Trump's legacy - The Apocalypse.
>>696527410
says the faggot who doesn't know what the 1st Amendment says
>>696527404
funny how the poor tend to fervently vote against their values
top kek
>>696527404
What's the problem with that? Money have no value if you can't spend it cause some sandnigger stabbed you.
>>696527255
Slander , hillary is the one terrible in international politics, arms deals, uranium deal.
Destabilized middle east , fucked europe in the process fucked russia so you fucked china she fucked america
>>696527473
But we can be warlords and wage wars for the remaining desirable females
>>696527594
>Clinton did really shitty stuff
>because I say so
kek
inb4 look it up
>>696526880
society my ass, i don't see how this always gets heated so fast.
>>696527352
What is wrong with xenophobia? They have it too.
>>696527587
What's Hungarian for "Mommy's Basement?"
>>696525927
I'm hearing this from a lot of people lately, it seems to be one of the main reasons why a lot people are supporting Trump.
I'm genuinely curious, how will pushing back against political correctness have a significant effect on the country? I must be missing something.
>>696527429
Pleas don't point out my homosexual tendencies or the Muhammads will throw me off roofs. Please keep silent about that, I don't want to die.
>>696517661
Germanfag here.
Trump.
No question.
We've tried a woman for a leader over here and it has been a complete failure.
You could learn from your failure.
But then, you are Ameritards and enjoy electing corporate shills who only fuck you and your children for generations to come.
I also could not fathom how Clinton would ever get elected anywhere in any civilized nation in the world outside of the U.S. She would have gone to prison long ago here. We don't tolerate that kind of nonsense and it speaks volumes to how much you Amerifags are cucks that you'd actually even let her get a chance to be your President after all she has done.
FYI, she is pretty much despised by most of the rest of the world. It would be an unwise choice for this reason alone.
Trump seems to be an outsider who has taken no money from your corporations or establishment. That's rare and most nations beg for someone independent like that if for nothing else than to shake up the politics and keep the rest of the politicians honest. You'll never get that with Clinton as she is a career politician and beholden to many masters.
Your choice ubertards.
>>696527474
Islam is less of a religion than a dangerous political movement that is aimed and only aimed at turning everything islam, and its values go against everything liberals stand for.
>>696527410
Maybe the constitution needs to go ... More than a billion ppl and counting can't be wrong?
>>696527653
>because its common knowledge
>>696527687
Every time I see that graphic, it reminds me of the waves of butthurt you Islamophobes have.
>>696527761
says the faggot who doesn't know what a religion is
>>696527775
>can't prove cringing conspiracy
>calling it common knowledge
kek
>>696524162
The US spends way too much money on military protecting the world. Pull out our military and watch the world burn though..
>>696517661
Hitler should represent the fuck USA! Fuck USA u fucking fat KKK-Member country,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,xddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
>>696527707
Anyád pincéje.
And some dead german would rather want to live there now instead of being cremated.
>>696527935
Actually the US could stand to close a fuckload of bases, m8. And it would put a serious dent in tackling wasteful spending.
Represent? I hope Trump, I fear it's Hilary though.
>>696527778
Every time i see the post number go up but the poster amount stay the same i know you are same fagging.
>>696517661
Neither of us represent us, but one is a less unwise choice.
>>696528032
Man you really need to get out. You sound a bit claustrophobic.
>>696527252
how about us just stopping to increase the federal budget with each new term?
>>696517661
Trump
>>696527911
Who brokered the uranium deal with iran?
>>696519113
>Whoever made this comic doesn't understand how they decide who's on the money.
Agreed.
He >>696518510 is clearly a dimwitted dumbass. Just look at his comment too.
Wait for Hariet Tubman (fucking who?) to replace President Andrew Jackson on the $20. Lol. Fucked up America taken over by cucks and fags.
Political Correctness is fascism pretending to be manners, but is in fact America’s only true form of intolerance. It's forced by government and attempts to silence free speech.
>>696528074
So because you think I'm samefagging that means anon isn't some cringing butthurt Islamophobe?
>>696528123
You make 0 sense.
Not him.
>>696517661
Trump
>>696517661
I hope its Hillary, but not because I like her. I just genuinely feel that she will do less damage than Trump
Everyone says reality tv stars are the epitome of stupidity, vanity, and ignorance.... and were about to elect one for president
>>696527249
>I don't hate _______. Some of my best friends are _______ .
Classic. Awesome job.
>>696527825
Religions are protected up until the point that they infringe on others, islam is built to infringe from the top down, and it was very carefully structured to endure anything, and to deceive outsiders. All you have to do is take a little time and use the power of internet which is under your fingertips right now and read the doctrine. If that is too hard for you, then learn key points, learn what abrogation in islam is for example.
>>696517661
Some people here doesn't want Hillary to be president, watch this video it will change your mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvyGydc8no
>>696528137
Because, I hate to break this to you--shit costs money.
And you faggots want lower taxes and loopholes instead of raising them to address higher revenues.
>>696527346
>he thinks libertarianism is "taxation is theft: the political stance"
While I'd like some taxes cut, those services and safety nets are still ultimately needed. I'm saying the government needs FAR less political power, and a tad less economic power.
>>696527394
When was I lying about the current national debt mate, I said that during Jackson's term, he paid off the debts at the time.
You were saying previously that other presidents had paid off national debt, until I cited my source. Why the argument change? Do you have a hate-boner for Jackson?
>>696528363
Money. Like a 10,000 javelin missle being shot at a villager that wont make that much in a lifetime?
We have the money, we just have corrupt corperatee goons using war to funnel it into their own private accounts.
>>696528337
says the faggot who still hasn't read the 1st Amendment
come on, at least make your sentences smaller
>>696528264
Do you have anything to say with real substance?
>>696528392
>I'm saying the government needs FAR less political power, and a tad less economic power.
That would only be desirable if:
1. People didn't oppress each other
2. Businesses paid living wages
inb4 you get to keep more money with lower taxes
>>696526021
Did you even check the link?
All of the attacks are listed there, are you saying they didn't happen?
Just browse this a little.
https://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/55463/hillary-clinton#.V5eljKLmiUl
>>696528261
That is 100% the opposite.
Her entire life has been her lusting after power. She slut-shamed the women Bill seduced AND over-looked his sexually assaulting women because she knew that if she left him, she'd have no power. Yet, she calls herself a feminist.
She's from Illinois, lived in Arkansas, but went to NY so she could get elected to the Senate.
She's also beholden to most big businesses as well as many, many nations thanks to their "contributions" to her fund. And, a lot of those nations have horrible human rights histories and treat their women horrifically. And, again, she calls herself a feminist.
Trump is a douchebag for sure, but she's a scumbag who will stop at nothing for power.
>>696527597
Seems legit. Personally I'm cool with all the females walking around right now but getting murdered for them seems like a good option to go.
>>696528337
replace Islam with Abrahamic religion and you will be even more correct
>bu bu but christians dont do it
Tell that to the blacks and the natives who had their culture earased. Tell that to the mayans
Christians are mad at Muslims for something they did infinietly better and more efficiently around 100 years ago
They just did it so well they dont need to do it anymore. They just get angry at others for it
>>696527778
What's wrong about that graphic?
>>696521551
can someone help me posting one with the same shit but from the bible?
>>696528510
You have no arguments, none, zip, nada. I gave you a chance, you have nothing of value to add to this discussion. I win, you lose. Simple as that. Beating around the bush may make you feel smart, but I assure you that you are anything but.
>>696527587
yea that's happening. it's hard to go anywhere without getting stabbed.
>>696528392
>I said that during Jackson's term, he paid off the debts at the time.
Why do you keep posting this like it's some badge of honor?
So the fuck what. That means under Jackson he ran a lean machine with little or no government intervention at a time private industry and individuals were enslaving human beings and giving the wealthiest an advantage we don't even see today.
Spending arguments are stupid. Instead tell me why we shouldn't spend revenues to "promote the general welfare?"
>>696528727
Absolutely this.
>>696519911
eurofag here
>Shillary here
FYI, moron, nobody in Europe refers to themselves as being from "Europe". Would you refer to yourself as a "North American"?
Also, few of us give a crap or know much at all about your election, or an opinion, let alone such a strong and one-sided opinion as you clearly do.
Last, nations on the continent of Europe currently have any sentiment toward "muslims" other than something ranging from stong disdain to outright hatred. Perhaps in your sheltered U.S. you haven't seen our regular bombings or how whole chunks of our nations have been taken over with squatters. No one in Europe, save for muslims, who don't come here, would ever do anything but cheer getting rid of muslims, yet you state, "Trump . . . and preventing muslims from immigrating make any sense whatsoever is a drooling moron"
>Shillary confirmed
How embarrassing for you.
>>696528494
Yeah well if you paid people living wages, the Federal Debt would probably be half or less of what we have now.
>>696528660
No I don't go to right-wing blogs as a habit. Don't want to give them page clicks.
Take it /pol/ every single one of you faggots.
>>696528264
You imply that's a bad argument to prove you're not a xenophobe, but you should realize it's actually the best argument. Why would a xenophobe/racist/whatever hang out with the people he hates? I never got the logic behind this "counter argument".
>>696528784
Why? You can't reason a person out of something that they believe without good reason in the first place.
>>696528888
>tell me why we shouldn't spend revenues to "promote the general welfare?"
It depends upon how you define "general welfare."
I agree with military, infrastructure, schools and stuff like that.
Calling welfare spending and forcing people to have insurance "general welfare" is wrong.
>>696528981
How do you figure? Because the illegal welfare payouts wouldn't be as high?
>>696528773
The information is misused to suggest that everyone who practices Islam is potential terrorist. And if you're the one posting it, then you've heard anons tell you this before.
>>696528123
That's just your imagination. It's a shame here, but I'm 100% normie. What's the problem dude? Are you a sandnigger too? Or you don't watch the news?
I saw them myself while they marched through Hungary before the border fence. You don't want them as your neighbour.. believe me.
>>696517661
Trump: Vulgar, successful, flashy, arrogant, can-do attitude.
>>696528940
>Perhaps in your sheltered U.S. you haven't seen our regular bombings
lol you are such a faggot.
You bitch about muslims being dangerous but havent talken a walk through a ghetto in teh US. Over here, shits more dangerous than any tea drinking faggot town you have in europe and we dont even have muslims
Our cops shoot more of our own than muslims shoot you or bomb you
We are a lot of things, sheltered is not one of them.
>>696528807
Actually my argument has been the 1st Amendment this whole time. You cannot ban an entire class of people because of their religion. Not happening.
You're all over the place faggot.
>>696528619
>People didn't oppress each other
What exaclty do you mean by this? Do you mean "outperform"?
>Businesses paid living wages
Surely illegal immigration is a contributing factor, don't you think? Also the enabling of big corporations to outsource their labour into the third world.
>>696529033
Well click this, bitch.
>>696528981
>Yeah well if you paid people living wages
There is no such thing as "living wages." Everyone has different needs and wants and talents. There is no way to quantify what a "living wage" is, since no two people are the same and are in the same situation.
>>696527404
>>696527404
>stillsaferthandetroit
>and St Loius
>and Compton
>and 90% of the ghettos in your country
>and your police force
Come at me you stupid sack of shit. Bitch about muslims all you want, you will probably get shot on teh way to your grocery store lol.
Detroit makes our ghettos look like Shambhala
>>696529176
If big business paid living wages then we would have a broader tax base to pay off debt and to pay into social services like Universal Health Care.
>>696529187
>100% normie
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
Personally I think all of Germans are fucking Nazies and they deserve everything that they get.
>>696529033
Well then I think no one can help if you prefer to be blind..
Facts are facts regardless of the source.
Pretty much this >>696527737
Frenchman, fyi.
Seems very offensive to honesty to consider a politician proven to be a liar so many times. But again Americans seem very dumb these days.
What happened to you? Used to be the top nation all looked up to. You fell so far so quickly.
>>696529344
Racism still happens, classism still happens, we live in a corporatocracy currently.
You would have to remove those barriers before we could entertain a system like yours.
>>696528771
Ah, here's this one again, you just pulled christianity out of your hat for no god damned reason. Before I address anything, I'm an atheist, I turned atheist in the face of a christian family when I was still a kid, I doubted the existence of god starting at the age of five.
But christianity and islam share little in common. The bible is a mess of contradictory tales written during different times by different people, the book as a whole makes little to no sense. It's did its best during a time when most of the followers were illiterate.
The quran was all written through the words of the prophet muhammed himself during the beginnings of the muslim conquests that would eventually make up the largest empire ever known to man. It is structured more carefully, it's a rule book, a political book, a system of laws, a government. It even has ways of dealing with contradictions through abrogation, and ways of dealing with outsiders through taqiyya. You are allowed to use the peaceful versus to deceive outsiders when you know damn well they are null and void through use of abrogation for example.
Islam is surviving the information era, instead of an enlightenment happening it just grew stronger, when other religions are being snuffed out in this era, islam utilizes it.
There is just too much raw data you are up against.
>>696528194
The fact that any one is a pro muslim is the cringe part.
>>696529496
For the US, we're probably talking salaries of 60-100K
those are living wages by and large
>>696528888 (fuck your quads)
>Why do you keep posting this like it's some badge of honor?
Its a feat no other president has accomplished, but that doesn't even out the Trail of Tears, his other accomplishments do. If you have evidence to the contrary, please cite it instead of asserting it.
>So the fuck what. That means under Jackson he ran a lean machine with little or no government intervention at a time private industry and individuals were enslaving human beings and giving the wealthiest an advantage we don't even see today.
[Citation needed]
Amazing how you dodge the question of changing your argument with your own questions and assertions.
>>696527737
it's hard to see your point though. we are probably among the top 10 cuck nations. just think about the things you and i have to deal with. no trail by jury, limited free speech, the grundgesetz contains the duty to attend school for at least nine years of our lives, duty to posess an ID, gun laws that limit posession to people who are able to provide a government aproved need, taxpayed money transfers for other people's children.
>>696527653
>Because I say so
>Does not want to look it up for himself
>Chooses to believe what he's heard instead
I haven't seen someone suck a Clinton's dick this much since her husband was in office.
>>696529733
Copypasta
>>696529634
No actually your claim is dubious because of the biased nature of your link.
You also have an agenda to paint all Muslims as potential terrorists, which is bullshit.
>>696529845
>>696528194
Pro Abrahamic religion makes no sense. It never did. I dont see how someone could accept being a christian, but think Islam doesnt make sense
Or a jew that condemns cutting of childrens penises but thinks Christianity is full of superstistion.
All of it is dumb
>>696529730
>remove barriers
I agree. We need to get rid of quotas and affirmative action as soon as possible to restore an equal playing field.
>>696529608
No we wouldn't... the amount of money in the system would be the same, just spread out more. More money means a higher tax bracket, which means that two people with 50k/year earnings pay less income tax than one person with 100k/year.
>>696529845
I'm pro- US Constitution m8.
Get it right. You have no right to violate others' human rights because you hate their religion.
>>696529608
>If big business paid living wages
There is no such thing as a living wage. You cannot come up with a formula for it.
Two people could have the exact same back ground, training and work at the same job. Do you pay them the same "living wage" even though one has to drive 20 minutes to work every day and one can walk 2 blocks to work?
How about if they both live the same distance away from work, but one gets married and one just lives with his gf? The one who gets married now has his wife's income, so he gets paid less, right? Never mind that the guy who lives with his gf has a gf who is making $200k/year and pays for everything other than rent.
>>696529631
I'm not him, but you really need to try to act like you have a shred of maturity.
You are an embarrassment to us Americans with nearly every post you make. So much hate. So many facts wrong. Just so you know, I am on your side politically, but you sound like an absolute imbecile throughout this thread.
Seriously, put the computer away and go do something constructive. You need a lot of therapy, son.
>>696529970
>can't prove point
>tells anon to look it up
>accuses anon of sucking dick
so how is being 12?
>>696529313
I want to hear your argument, articulate a response, don't just wave the 1st amendment at me.
>>696530081
bravo.
Sadly this kind of american is dying out. Instead we are getting an Idiocracy
>>696529987
Wow, I am going to take that as a compliment, I actually typed that shit out, lol.
>>696530048
Doesn't matter if you think it makes "sense" or not.
Islam is protected by the US Constitution. You are not going to get Congress to pass a law prohibiting people from practicing it.
With that in mind, why do you keep pushing this argument?
>>696528363
much shit is not needed.
>>696530071
speculation
>>696530177
This is what Clintonites actually believe.
>You can't just cite the Constitution when talking about people's Constitutional rights.
Yes, yes he can. The 1st Amendment overrides all non-constitutional laws, doctrines, or arguments when dealing with American freedoms.
>>696530177
You can't be this stupid.
I don't see how HRC is any more corrupt than any previous president t b h f a m
>>696530212
Obviously. Look at the debates I'm having with anons in here. No wonder they're Trumpfags.
>>696530370
...how is that speculation? The tax codes are publicly available. They don't just send out tax invoices and we have to suss out the logic behind it.
>>696528940
Wow the euro bait is just floating.
>nobody in Europe refers to themselves as being from "Europe"
>>696528888
>enslaving
thank you for that
>>696529866
Depends upon where you live. $60K in Honolulu isn't much. $60K in Cairo, IL is pretty wealthy.
There are too many variables - and a person's wealth always depends upon how much they spend, not how much they earn.
So, what do you do if two guys in the same job make the same amount of money, but one spends every last dime while the other is extremely frugal and saves most of it? Do you check his bank account at some point to see if he has $50k saved and then cut him off from his "living wage?"
>>696530354
not your call
elect Representatives you agree with
>>696530414
You need to go back and read the discussion, I've already addressed how islam is not simply a religion.
>>696517661
Hilary
literally a country of daft cunts doing anything for money without thinking of the future
>>696530212
Most of the "idiots" in here are as much for freedom of religion as anyone else, but that doesn't change the fact that Religion is an ideology and such things need to be discussed, don't they?
>>696530561
M8 I just told you how the debt would be reduced by fewer subsidies to business and making them pay people decent wages.
That means there is more money in the form of taxes. Stop being dense and derailing the discussion.
>>696529845
No one is "pro muslim" in Europe, unless you are a muslim. Trust me, I am a field IT guy and am in a different country 2-5 times a week.
The only ones outside of the civilized world not essentially saying the same thing as your "Trump" seem to be Obama and Clinton. If you elect Clinton, you can kiss your country goodbye as you will soon be overrun by muslims. Learn from history how they operate from within and outbreed and only deal and put money into their own community. Mosques will start popping up everywhere. Then they get political power and you cannot get rid of them. They are like rats.
Go ahead and learn the hard way and elect Clinton. I hope you do. I hate America.
>>696530634
Ahk fair enough. I assumed you weren't crazy. That was wrong of me.
>>696529033
>>696517661
Really? Youre asking us?! Have you seen how fucked up our shit is?! Trump! Dude the answer is trump! Maybe he can come here to help build a wall seperating europe from everywhere that has muslims!
>>696530713
absolutely
>>696530573
You're splitting hairs.
>too many variables
oh ffs support raising people's wages m8
Jesus
>>696530774
wow that's some serious butthurt Trumptard
>>696525781
Why would they be sneaking by if it was unprotected though, anon?
>>696530745
>things that are true because I say so
>trust me I'm an IT guy
top zoz
>>696530745
>goodbye as you will soon be overrun by muslims.
LOL. What will they just magically appear?
What was to stop them from teleporting into America pre-clinton
Or literally at any other point in time.
What, when Clinton gets elected she is going to open the Dark Portal buried under detroit?
Dude you Alex Jones Infowars fags are so easy to scare its a joke.
>>696530708
Hillary calls herself a feminist but takes millions upon millions from countries in the Middle East which treat their women horribly and support radical Islams.
Exactly how did you not describe what Hillary and her minions are doing?
Trump is a douchebag, but Hillary is a scumbag who lusts for power.
>>696530858
That's not an argument.
>>696530758
It's a legal system and describes how the executive has to work. It defines punishments and legislates what to eat, what to wear and how to behave.
It's a religion, but it's also way more than that, I don't really see how you deny that, especially since you have Muslim countries all over the world where Islam is literally all of those things in practice.
>>696529535
should have added a few dots so it would have been easier to see my point...
>>696530797
Good. So do you think throwing around buzzwords like "xenophobe", "islamophobe", "racist", etc. is a good way to discuss a topic?
>>696531014
>thinks cringing unintentional Teatard humor FB graphic is an "argument"
kek
>>696530758
Again, no substance. You regressives have nothing of substance to say.
>>696529608
now you are just messing with us
>>696517661
Eurofaggouch right here.
Trumps is literal USA.
his views,straight up way of saying things.Punchlines.
>>696529970
It is just raining
>because i say so
When common knowledge topics come by
>>696530758
he's a dipshit, actually
the same criteria could be applied to any religion like Christianity or Judaism.
>>696530745
hasnt Clinton been waging war in muslim countries for years?
That doesnt count because? Because?
fuck you thats why. Just because they refuse to shout at muslims every god damn minute of their life does not make them pro-muslim
Plus America has literally 10000 other things to worry about, like political corruption
But no one will pay attention to that if you get them looking at muslims on the other side of the world. As long as they are looking away from you, you can get away with anything you want
They sound talk the same! But Hitler had brains
>>696531198
No, just repeating a point that was obviously lost the last couple of times.
Sorry you think paying people decent wages is fantasy talk.
>>696528940
Rekt
>>696529944
Fair enough. But are you one of our very few that actually believe electing a woman to be our leader was a good idea. In hindsight it was foolish. I am not chauvinist, but I think history has shown that women bring down nations time and time again and simply are not built to lead. They excel and surpass men in other categories, but in leadership they come to the fight as a cripple and that is how the rest of the world treats them as well. Putin alone will crush Clinton and we know this, don't we? His hatred against Clinton (and many else in the world for what she has done for decades in destroying many nations from the inside) will monopolize all her time as they will do anything and everything to destroy her. The Ameritards deserve what they get if they are so stupid to elect a woman, and one that is so despised by the rest of the world already like Clinton. Very stupid people with no international consciousness.
>>696525489
How did you go from all americans are illegal in comparison to the native americas to "britain owns the US east coast, india, canada,etc. because of colonization?"
Like seriously, how did you make that jump, I'm genuinely interested
YUP I LOVE USA JOBS HEHEHEH
>>696531348
I wish we had Hitler. That nigga had style and was super into the Occult
Trump is a reality tv star on par with Snookie
>>696530858
>because i say so
>>696531451
meh
>>696530994
Zozzle is code for please pound my gay rectum.
>>696530818
>You're splitting hairs.
I'm not splitting hairs. My points are perfectly legit. If someone saves $50k making a "living wage", does he still need that "living wage?" That extra amount he's making could go to someone who isn't doing as well / go to more people to bring them up.
I'm not against raising people's wages. I think corporate greed is stupid. I'm just against the government forcing another artificial wealth-redistribution program because it will 100% for sure mean that the government gets bigger and the people who are doing the actual work will get a pittance.
I'm much more in favor of the government reducing payroll taxes and eliminating wasteful spending so that the worker doing the actual work sees more money in their paycheck and companies can hire more people.
>>696531290
See>>696529733
Also, raw data says otherwise.
Americas Trump Full retad like the people he makes fun off!
>>696530562
>nobody in Europe refers to themselves as being from "Europe"
that's actually true, chap
methinks he exposed you m8
we brits just left the EU and that was amongst the reasons
you are an ignorant chap, aren't you?
>>696531551
wow even more butthurt
can't wait until you start going buttmad over Clinton's liberal policymaking XDXD
I would vote for Trump for the years of memes to come.
>>696531478
Clearly he knows what he talks about when he says companies go abroad for cheap labor.
>dont misuse The Picard
Brazilian here.
Trump looks like a real american, but I don't think that he'll be "the president" that all americans want.
>>696520184
>>696520184
What's wrong with TPP
Seems like it could help boost America's economy by stimulating trades with a bunch of different countries, thus helping their economy out, and giving a nice middle finger to China and Europe
>>696521373
Trump is a jackass but he can't singlehandedly turn America into a state of disrepair, the president doesn't have that kind of power
>>696531624
Raw data says you haven't read or understood what the 1st Amendment means.
Raw data says you're willing to play Judge Jury & Executioner to an entire culture for the acts of extremists
Raw data says you are a faggot
>>696531393
see. that's just tugging strings.
>>696531855
>the president doesn't have that kind of power
see: Bush-Cheney
kek
>>696531876
see that's just you posting shitty b8
>>696531870
I believe i need to kill every non Islamic guy in the country.
Not against the rules.
>>696531845
Yes, hopefully he will be a president for the people. Maybe not of the people, but for the people. Americans have been mislead by the elite since the ~60s onward, let's hope this is not the case with candidate Trump.
>>696531822
He is a hypocrite piece of shit that only cares about himself and making money for himself . He does not care who he destroyed in the process!
>>696517661
First of all, Europeans have NO room to fucking speak when Islam is taking over their entire goddamn continent and every country there is being attacked and invaded by these sandnigger motherfuckers. Second of all, look at how Clinton rigged the superdelegates to fuck over that socialist bastard Jew rat Bernie Sanders.
She's pure evil. Bill Clinton is a rapist. Vote for her and you'll be getting 4 years of a White female Obama.
>>696530745
>Who is Angela Merkel
>What is every Scandanavian government
>How do I turn on the news box
Come on bro. Just try a little.
>>696521613
>>696521613
Using that argument when they're proposing kicking out those who hate foreigners is like saying hating racist people is the same as hating innocent people because in the end you hate people, totally disregarding the context like a fucking morooooooon
>>696531845
he isnt. He is the president the bible belt wants. You know, the concentration of the least educated, want religion to be law (aka Sharia Law) as well as most obese people in America. Those are the guys that want him
>>696531855
>Wanting the establishment of draconian copyright law and near absence of freedom of speech
https://www.eff.org/issues/tpp
>>696531926
Congress helped them.
>>696532232
Why do obese people want Trump? Is he secretly a fatvocate?
>>696532147
That perfectly describes Hillary. Stayed with cheating and sexually abusing husband, takes millions from countries which repress women and calls herself a feminist.
>>696521031
You look like Miss Piggy. Kill yourself.
>>696532255
What is a Republican Majority?
>>696531870
Roughly 69% of muslims believe in sharia law. Sharia law is a governing system, not a religion. If they got their way, you would be a dead man no matter how many times you cried about the 1st amendment.
You're so deep in the matrix it is painful.
>>696530107
You actually take this shit on here seriously then you are retarded. If you want to have a serious intellectual conversation you are in the wrong place nigger. I was trolling the faggot and apparently you have no clue how anything works on /b/.
Suck a cock there's my maturity.
>>696532355
Trump Steaks.
>>696532355
well duh, fat people are the only disinfranchised minority he hasnt attacked
Most likely because they are a good 95% of his voter base (well at least mass wise)
>>696532434
>playing the Sharia Law card
kek
>>696532434
not sure thats true. Indonesia has the highest concentration of muslims in teh world and they arent shariah
>>696532434
If you got your way, everyone would be white and we'd be living in a feudal society.
Trump represents America's capitalist, money comes first over people, fuck brown people side, while Hillary represent America's disingenuous corporate backed "let's tell the dumb brown people everything they wanna hear so they'll vote for us" side of America, which still in the end is rooted in big money and only truly follows the money.
They're both 2 sides of the same coin, one is just choosing to run on a campaign totally absent of political correctness, which is helping his case, while the other is hanging themselves with it.
Truly a fascinating time to be alive
>>696532147
>>696519694
>>696519930
wow dont you feel fucking retarded now that you were proven a Teatard yourself?
>>696532375
Your so holy and perfect asshole take the plank out of your eye . Plus stop reading shit on the internet and fox news . That like watching and reading in fairytale land.
>>696532630
autism: the interlude
>>696532507
>>696532434
the bible belt already supports shariah law, they just call it "family values". Its not as scary because its in english
>>696531455
not so much as i see a major problem in shifting political power towards the executive branch. either in the US as in germany. the party machines are just despicable
>>696532562
>exceptions to the rule prove the rule wrong
>>696532622
>being this butthurt over liberal policies
>pretends to be above it all while helping to elect Trump
kek
