Proud democrat here but after last night and recent events will definitely be voting Trump for President.
Too many millennials/liberals think we can debate our way to peace or negotiate with terrorists, and are quite happy to see innocent people die in the meantime.
Young people today have absolutely no idea or experience about taking control of a situation and influencing real events, and this young generation is probably somewhat to blame for the country we live in.
Look at what people do when faced with a dilemma these days: post a twitter hashtag, or a retarded selfie or 'Like' a popular meme instead of actually talking to people outside of their bubble.
It's just sad that people have allowed the media to dictate our culture and values instead of it coming from the people.
If Hillary wins, I'm leaving the country.
>>689351470
Weak troll bullshit. No democrat is voting for Trump because of one shooting. But a lot of us are seriously thinking about it because Shillary fucking cheated her way to the nomination.
>>689351470
Too late to change party's fag.
>>689352340
...the fuck are you talking about? Primaries are over. In the general election you can vote for whoever you want, you don't even have to be registered to a party.
>>689352458
Trololololol
>>689352135
>because Shillary fucking cheated her way to the nomination
So if she hadn't cheated you WOULD consider voting for her?
Wow! Just Wow. You are fucking retarded then. I think you are exactly the millennial I described earlier; not a clue about what is going on in this country culturally and socially.
Obama has gone AWOL on the Islamic threat and we're looking at a future where 9/11's could be happening again.
This country needs a rethink on immigration but also on Islam, integration and society.
>>689351470
>"Too many millennials/liberals are quite happy to see innocent people die in the meantime."
>Nope
We want actual gun control. If you're against that then you're happy to see dozens of fellow Americans massacred like they were in Orlando and that means you're just as bad as the terrorists that hate this country.
Im a democrat and I will be voting for Trump too. Fuck Hillary!
I lost my job running CNC machinery in a factory because the operation was moved to the Dodge factory in Saltillo, Mexico.
So, yeah fuck Hillary and the dems, they did nothing to try and save jobs like mine.
>>689353028
>We want actual gun control.
Omar Mateen had legal gun licences, and was on a FBI watchlist and STILL managed to kill 50+ people.
How is your 'gun control' going to stop that from happening again?
>>689351470
>If Hillary wins, I'm leaving the country.
Canadian here. You won't be let in. We don't need the dregs of American society here. Stay in Kentucky or Mississippi or whichever shit states you Trumpies are unfortunate to live in.
Thanks.
>>689352340
Political newfag detected, you can vote for anyone in the general election cum bucket
ITT: People who don't understand how American politics govern.
>>689353174
I would hope that it's going to make it so that suspected terrorists can't just buy military grade weapons at the drop of a hat.
>>689353078
Oh boo fucking hoo. You picked a job that makes you easily replaceable and got replaced. You sound like fucking detroit. "Oh no! I put all my eggs in one automotive basket and now it fell through! It's everyone elses fault!"
>>689353028
Yeah because gun control always stops terrorists....
They would never fill up a truck with fertilizer and diesel fuel to make a bomb or hijack a plane and use it as a missle...
More people die from cigarettes and yet I still see they are legal too.
>>689352789
>So if she hadn't cheated you WOULD consider voting for her?
Yeah.
If the DNC had run this primary the same way they did in 2008 and she had legitimately won, then I would've voted for her. The only reason I've looked as deeply into her background as I have int he past year is because of all the bullshit they pulled to thwart Bernie.
That said, Hillary loves throwing wars in the Middle East, so what are you worried about?
>>689353374
You know how often they regulate cigs compared to guns? A lot.
>>689353374
Not always, but this guy was a suspected fucking terrorist and he was still able to purchase multiple weapons. If that's not fucked up I don't know what is.
>>689353078
>My job got outsourced!
>As a protest I'm voting for a man that outsourced thousands of jobs to China!
>Murican logic.
>>689353028
If you actually think that gun control is a way to save lives, then you should legitimately kill yourself.
>>689353028
>If you're against that then you're happy to see dozens of fellow Americans massacred
>you're just as bad as the terrorists
Remove guns from the equation and terrorists would just use bombs, vehicles, gas, knives, poison etc. hell maybe even airplanes..
You're right guns are too easy to acquire, however this guy was legally entitled to them, not mentally ill, no significant criminal history but still wasn't noticed.
Also, criminals will always be able to acquire guns.
Removing guns won't stop terrorism, removing Muslims will.
Look, I'm not gonna lie; I don't give a shit about Orlando. I do not give a shit. It didn't happen to me, it didn't happen near me, it didn't involve anyone I personally know, so I'm not gonna pretend to get all brokenhearted and butthurt about some random asshole perforating some random faggots just to earn some imaginary internet points. Florida is as far away from me as France.
>>689352705
where do you newfags come from
oh yeah
Hmmm.. you are right, it is all my fault, I should have gone to college and gotten a degree so I could work at Starbucks or Abercrombie and Finch, since those are the only jobs soon to be left...
Fuck You Cocksucker...
>>689353478
Really? Try buying a gun in California..
>>689351470
>>689353223
No one wants to move to you, Canada. Your PM Justin Trudeau is so cucked that he apologized for an event tha occurred hundreds of years ago.
>>689353174
Lol youre a fucking idiot. With gun control he wouldnt have had a gun license. The FBI did have him on a watchlist but they cant do shit because there isnt any gun control.
>>689353514
> completely ignores the fact that Democrats have been in power for almost a decade and the economy is still shit.
>>689353607
>I don't give a shit about Orlando. I do not give a shit. It didn't happen to me, it didn't happen near me
This guy must really love his country.
Millennials are the death of america
>>689353514
Thats not the standard MAGA hat you fucking autist. They only sell red, and all of those are made in the USA.
Let's all hope for a better future...
>>689353756
Given the choice between Trudeau, Trump or Hillary I'd vote Trudeau.
>>689353223
Canadian here.
Sorry about this guy.
>>689353514
Trump hats are made in USA though. That's fake.
Stupid millennial.
>>689353798
>With gun control he wouldnt have had a gun license
So gun control = nobody is allowed guns?
That isn't going to work buddy, security guards are allowed to have guns legally.
>>689353798
Huh? This has to be bait as even on /b/, no one is actually this fucking dense
>>689353492
If he was a suspected terrorist why wasnt he arrested or detained?
Because if they picked him up for suspected terrorism, without actually doing anything, people like you would criticize the FBI for being racist and being Islamophobes... so insread nobody did anything until it was too late.
>>689353817
Some faggots actually believe this. The economy is way better than under bush and it drives you crazy it was a nigger who did it.
>>689353817
>Thinks voting for Trump will fix the economy.
>Forgets about the countless times Trump has been bankrupted.
>>689353887
Then youre obviously a lost cause
>>689353887
Given the choice, you'd also suck a meaty cock. No surprises here.
>>689351470
And while I agree that strength is necessary in this fight I really don't think Trump is it. He is just a blow hard who is good at getting people rattled up. I don't think he is the answer to anything.
>>689353492
He was investigated multiple times by the FBI yes, but at the time that he purchased the guns he was't currently they had dropped all investigation and deemed it incunclusive. He was also a security guard and had a firearm license through work. He's kind of in a gray area, but I agree it is fucked up.
>>689351470
It's a good thing the majority of people aren't fooled by your false logic. Also..
>Proud democrat
I call bullshit. You're just another republican hate and fear monger.
>>689354011
Its not like they do any research aside from "GRAAA DEMOCRATS BAD!"
>>689353633
Well if you had gotten a degree you would know most retail and food service jobs don't require them you working class cuck.
>>689353174
Wow
Even for self-defence purposes you don't need a gun that fires more than one well aimed round to defend yourself/others. Having a clip of around 3 rounds is all you need if you suck.Having weapons that fire hundreds of rounds a minute with enormous, armor piercing rounds only exist to either shoot at non-live targets or multiple live targets. Shooting at multiple live targets is called mass murder. These kinds of guns should be kept strictly for recreational purposes (i.e. non-live target shooting) and should be monitored and locked away by a third party authority to keep it that way.
Think it's about time we all woke up and seriously considered banning these killing machines. No civilian in their right mind needs an assault rifle.
Columbine.
Geneva County.
Fort Hood.
Aurora.
Sandy Hook.
Fort Hood TWICE!
Now Orlando.
Enough is enough.
>>689354066
But he and Hillary are our only two choices... we can only hope if he is elected he gets good people around him to run things.
>>689353996
LOL no its not. Get out of your mother's basement sometime kiddo.
>>689354011
lol who told you that Anderson Cooper?
do you know how many businesses trump owns
he never claimed personal bankruptcy just on the business that failed when you have that many it happens they don't all succeed you stupid millennial Hillary cuck
>>689351470
Dude.
Hillary is going to bomb the shit outbid them just like Obama.
More troops, defense contracts, all that jazz.
Chill. Muslim's gonna be dying.
>>689354011
He declared bankruptcy as a financial strategy to stop losing money. He has hundreds of other businesses all across the country that are earning him millions of dollars per year. Two businesses in the shithole of NJ going bankrupt doesnt mean that he will cripple our economy.
Wah! Millennials!
Well im a bernie supporter who is now voting for hillary because of you fucking internet trolls over and over have to post up trump,
>>689353798
Actually YOURE the idiot. The FBI couldn't do anything because every time a rag head gets questioned you fucking morons cry racist.
The guy used an illegal gun to kill people that could not shoot back. Had they been able to shoot back there would have been far less dead people.
Stop being a fucking government shill
>>689351470
Nice knee-jerk reaction
But if destroying your country is how you want to stomach Islam go for it, I'm sure ISL would love to see the US collaps and Trump is just the guy to do it.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/06/donald-trump-on-us-debt.html
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/10/opinions/trump-debt-louis/
Hope it's worth it.
>>689354236
Ok dad. Never mind the actual facts I guess. Go trump right?
>>689354011
>Countless times
4 times retard. Go ahead and look up how many successful businesses he has
Then please kill yourself.
>>689354324
If you honestly belive this shit, you should strongly consider suicide.
>>689354353
typical millennial
chooses president because of "internet trolls"
aka people with different opinions
Low testosterone losers make me sick. Such feeble minds so easily manipulated by what theyre told is right on tv and facebook. its SAD!
Fortunately the voice of our God Emperor is loud...
>>689353492
>ban moderate muslim from buying guns legally
>moderate beheader now knows he's on a watchlist
>moderate jihadi buys guns illegally
>religion of peace claims 50+ more lives and govenment loses tax dollars
>????
>Wall
>>689353996
This is a classic example why I could never be a democrat. You project your own inadequacies on the "other side". Racism, incompetence, intolerance, etc.
The economy is shit, Obama has failed miserly in all aspects of his presidency, the "progressive" model has failed. No amount of projection can change these things. You and your other leftist buddies live in a world of delusion and self-hate.
>>689353028
What is gun control? If they are able to legislate and control one right, what stops them from regulating all the others? Where does it end? It will start here and end with you going to jail for saying mean things.
>>689354408
Listen.
I'm all for carrying, but gun control doesn't go into this.
It was packed there. Had anyone responded with a pistol (likely Al they would have) it's not very likely they would have been effective against the guy with an assault rifle and a grenade, or worse, they would have just expedited deaths by shooting bystanders running all around.
More guns would have made any difference, for good or bad, the guy was shooting fish in barrel, give a few of the fish guns and all the other fish are still in the way.
>>689354543
You got us pegged alright. Tell your friends working at the piggly wiggly you won on the internet.
>>689354470
>Nice knee-jerk reaction
As opposed to liberals who DON'T REACT when terrorist massacres happen on their streets!
You think Islam is gonna get bored and leave the West alone?
Just like in OP's post - millennials are too clueless about TAKING ACTION and would rather sign a petition or tweet #GayLivesMatter instead of actually doing something FOR THEIR COUNTRY.
>>689354476
You have no idea what the real world is like do you kiddo?. I almost forgot it's summer.
>>689354672
>a gun wouldnt have stop it
Maybe not, but it could have helped. You cant speculate and call it truth
>>689353961
>huh? What? Is this really? I mean you couldnt seriously? Im just gonna stutter and? Fuck you nigger
>>689351470
Thank you for finally not being stupid and seeing the light
>>689353028
>Think back on history
>War on drugs
>Prohibition days
>Shit was still around during those times
>gun control
>guns will still be around
>people will kill if they wanna kill.
>>689354520
This. You fucking millennials need to grow some balls and think for yourselves.
>>689353028
I notice this idiot poster hasn't responded once to any of the legitimate arguments made against him.
>>689354543
Rightists are mostly dedicated religiously. And we're delusional?
>>689354672
Entirely based on the assumption the people with the guns would be in the back..
Automatic weapons empty extremely quickly. A hand gun, or several would have given the dead people a chance .. As it was they had no chance.
There is even a repot that some other rag head was holding the door so no one could leave... They could have shot him..
Gun control is just a catch phrase for disarm the public. So YOU can't defend yourself from crime or from the government.
Its bush fault for bombing the middle east, its trumps fault for his anti muslim policies, if were gonna ban muslims for this than less ban white men aswell, because there was a man on his was to gay pride in santa monica with an arsenal
>>689353028
Children these days.
>>689353223
From America: you can fuck right off. Nobody wants your shitty cucked culture anyway
>>689355142
They caught him though huh?
>>689351470
>Proud democrat here but after last night and recent events will definitely be voting Trump for President.
go away trump shill
>>689351470
IT WAS NOT A TERRORIST, you dumb shit! Just a normal, twisted, gay-hating asshole.
>>689354737
>join Internet argument
>get wrecked
>get feelings hurt.
Enjoy being butt-hurt kiddo. It's gonna happen a few times this summer.
Nice damage control btw.
>>689354940
Yet all you guys do is post shit trump said, your not even republicans your just a fag for trump
>>689353223
>Canadian here. You won't be let in.
Lost hard. I wouldn't step foot into Canada, enjoy the Muslim invasion
>>689355165
>American
>Judging the culture of other countries.
Topkek
>>689351470
>If Hillary wins, I'm leaving the country.
buh bye take that liar Rush Dimballs with ya
>>689354011
>countless times
>its 4
>out of over 100 businesses
>Well above the normal failure rate
Dude... Stop falling for bullshit propaganda and open your fucking eyes..
>>689355039
He probably got his feelings hurt and pussied off like a true millennial.
>>689354207
Nice imaginary numbers.
>>689355142
Holy fucking shit, do you even speak english?
>>689353857
>>689353899
but his entire clothing line is made in China
faggots
>>689355125
If they were in the front they would've died first.
If they had more security there with guns, the patrons wouldn't be allowed to carry inside.
This was not a stick up.
The guy entered shooting. He was about killing. That is not a situation where firing back would save lives because the target wouldn't even be visible, and the target doesn't care either.
>>689354835
>Maybe not, but it could have helped. You cant speculate and call it truth
So you can? It's not speculation that he had superior firepower to anything the Yb would carry and line of sight would be a problem for anyone else but him. He doesn't care about hitting other people, but you should, and it would be inevitable in that situation, that isn't acceptable.
>>689355280
go away Hilary shill
see that can work both ways
>>689355282
>IT WAS NOT A TERRORIST
>Kills 50 civilians
>Allies with Isis
>Extreme muslim family and lifestyle
>Not a terrorist
Liberal logic in 2016 America
>>689354835
Really you have no argument. Youre not jason bourne, you wouldve shot into a crowd of scattering people and inevitably wounded or killed someone else. The argument for gun use often implies trust in the human ability to use one precisely. My problem lies in the lack of trust for that. I really do not believe (even though natural thought patterns oblige us to feel this way in order to survive and think well of ourselves) that humans are precise enough to carry around handcannons. This is why the believe it only hurts more than it helps. A sort of overestimating of human capabilities
>>689355282
The man called 911before the shooting and openly claimed his allegiance to ISIS, and he's not a terrorist? Kys.
>>689352789
What about all the other shootings then? Sure, this Omar dude was a lot more successful at his mass shooting but that doesn't change the fact he is an exception, not being a mentally unstable white Christian and all.
>>689351470
We didn't start the fire
>>689355282
who is Muslim with Arab Muslim parents
gays who Muslims openly target and kill
a Muslim terrorist you corporate media
brainwashed Liberal cucktard
>>689355623
>superior fire power
Not really. Just a semi auto rifle and a semi auto pistol. Sure he can just unload into a crowd, but all you have to do is hit him. Most people who carry, get training. You are speculating again, i am as well, but im not trying to claim my view is the truth.
>>689355706
You can believe whatever you wish. I am competent with a firearm and could prove it. Your opinion shouldn't infringe on my rights.
>>689355758
It's not just about shootings believe it or not ...
>>689354331
>he declared bankruptcy to make money for himself and screw over employees and contractors that worked for him.
fixed
and
fuck that orange faggot.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/as-its-stock-collapsed-trump%e2%80%99s-firm-gave-him-huge-bonuses-and-paid-for-his-jet/ar-AAgWORF?li=BBnbfcN
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/usa-today-exclusive-hundreds-allege-donald-trump-doesn%e2%80%99t-pay-his-bills/ar-AAgR9h6?li=BBnb7Kz
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/06/11/this-is-how-trump-made-millions-while-running-his-casinos-into-the-ground/
>>689355636
Did somebody say liberal logic?
>>689355706
Most people who carry will voluntarily take courses to make them more efficient. Also your use of handcannon shows me you have no clue what you are talking about.
>>689355908
Superior to anything they would be allowed to carry or have inside. Plus a grenade?
You're really squirming, but that point is irrefutable.
>>689355605
Fake.
>>689355633
yes but I'm not pretending to be something I'm not
>>689355282
>ISIS claims responsibility
>The guy talked to a cleric who had been on a watchlist for terrorism
>He himself was on a terrorism watchlist
Defintely not a terrorist tho. Nope, nothing to see here.
#notallmuslims
#religionofpeace
#thisposterisafuckingidiot
>>689356097
Youre pretty ignorant when it comes to firearms and munitions huh?
>>689355758
>this Omar dude was a lot more successful at his mass shooting
I think he got too much credit.
When I awoke and read the news there were 20 people killed.
Then it went to 50 AFTER the police barreled through a wall, used explosives and engaged him in a "firefight".
We all know how cops are trained to shoot and how many times they miss their targets.
I doubt we'll ever see the autopsy reports but I'd bet LE killed just as many as he did.
>>689356010
That's the kind of guy I want taking care of me.
If someone applied for a position in one of his companies with no experience but simply claiming he means to do well and make his company great again, he would tell him to fuck off, that his company is great and then poach some dude in another company with yrs of experience.
>>689351470
Please don't come to Canada, I really don't want more dudes from the USA here.
>>689355282
I notice this poster isnt responding to anything that we are sending his way. Maybe he is cooed into submission upon realizing how fucking stupid of a statement he made was?
>>689356210
That's it?
Are you tapped out already?
>>689356002
Don't think muslim immigrants were responsible for that one
>>689356020
Did someone say republican logic?
>>689356265
I certainly hope he didn't kill 50 but I don't see why they would lie about the numbers.
>>689351470
You are a liar and you know it.
>>689356196
This is not Twitter. Get out.
>>689356107
it isn't fake and you know it you wannabe troll.
>>689356422
> source: OccupyDemocrats
topkek
>>689351470
or post shit on 4chan, oh wait...
>>689355995
Its not really an opinion. Owning a firearm doesnt require you to return to the range and practice any time after you register and acquire one. So maybe you practice constantly and have a nice shot. Who's to say under the pressure of being shot you wont fuck it up? Who's to say that someone who literally never goes to the range wouldn't ultra-panic and start blindfiring like a retard into the crowd. Honestly, its not opinion that humans are programed to think highly of their abilities. Its what were supposed to think to survive. But now that these sort of things exist and we dont live in caves, its time to take careful consideration into what you have the "right" to own.
>>689355605
He recognizes a problem with the u.s. but uses it for his advantage? That's all I'm seeing here. Sounds like a decent business practice. No?
>>689354289
yeah so basically he slides away with no personal blame and dumps the project
Hillary is shit and Trump is shit no ones gonna do well this year
>>689356196
>guy on terrorist watchlist is still legally allowed to buy an assault rifle
THANK GOD AND THE LITTLE BABY JESUS FOR OUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS!
>>689356540
it's funny because it's true!
>>689351470
>both sides of this thread
>>689356137
so you're a fucking psychic now
fuck off you millennial libtard cucklord
>>689356685
And yet you still ignore the main point of my post. Congratulations on your autism.
>>689353174
Because why is he able to buy fucking guns if he's on an FBI watch list? My cousin, robbed a grocery store when he was 19.. he's 31 one now and can't legally buy a gun. The FBI aren't watching him. He did some dumb shit as a kid and now as a grown man with a wife and two kids he can't legally buy a gun. That makes sense to you? A guy on an FBI watch list can buy guns freely but a guy on a fucking watch list can't.
>>689353260
lol I love this term "military grade"
>>689351470
Too many idiots think the president has any affect on incidents like this.
There's a fucking war on. Like an actual fucking war.
Trump can't do fuck all to stop it. Nobody can.
>>689356589
>meanwhile he preaches how China is taking all our jerbs
yeah no problem there at all
>>689356803
I'm 47
kid
>>689354227
Did you forgetbyou can WRITE-IN a candidate of your choosing? You have as many choices as there are legal native residents of the USA whom have not previouslt served two terms as president.
>>689353223
I'm coming in.
>>689356383
What are you on about? You are trying to claim that a semi auto rifle and one grenade apparently makes you a one man army, it doesnt. Too much cod man
>>689356020
I dont carry because i have no use for one. And i dont believe many gun owners take the time to efficiently use their weapon when its needed in a tight situation. Its a hero complex that just cant seem to be overcome by humility and humble thinking. Admitting that you cant control any situation is humble. Carrying around a gun to make you feel safe just tells me youre desperately scared of everything and a gun comforts you.
Prediction, everyone is this thread will be called a "cuck" by 16 year old cawaduty fan boys.
>>689356813
the main point of your post was stupid
you're stupid
congratulations
>>689354207
oh yikesssss wheww lad.
>only need one round
>clip
>enormous armor piercing rounds kek
>third party authority
You sir, are the problem.
>>689356437
>I don't see why they would lie about the numbers.
How many rounds do you think the cops shot?
How many do you think hit Omar?
He was already in a shoot out with the moonlight cop (security) and didn't get taken out.
What makes you think LE is so damned accurate? Are they firing magic bullets that evaporate if they don't hit their target?
>>689354539
Why make it easy for him? so because terrorists can get guns illegally we should just give guns to terrorists legally?
>>689357206
>>689356389
>9/11
>Don't think muslim immigrants were responsible for that one
Then you are a FUCKING RETARD.
Mohamed Atta
Abdulaziz al-Omari
Wail al-Shehri
Waleed al-Shehri
Satam al-Suqami
Marwan al-Shehhi
Fayez Banihammad
Mohand al-Shehri
Hamza al-Ghamdi
Ahmed al-Ghamdi
Hani Hanjour
Khalid al-Mihdhar
Majed Moqed
Nawaf al-Hazmi
Salem al-Hazmi
Ziad Jarrah
Ahmed al-Haznawi
Ahmed al-Nami
Saeed al-Ghamdi
All were muslim immigrants.
>>689354207
You are a jack ass
>>689356837
Welcome to government logic. Yet there are still hordes of idiots out there who think the government can solve our problems
>>689351470
>Implying Trump is concerned about your wellbeing
>Implying candidates aren't complete lip service
>Implying 4chan is "outside your bubble"
>Implying the internet is outside "the media"
wew lad
>>689357471
>>689353295
Wow and you faggot have for sure a job that is payed by the government.
>>689356884
>Trump can't do fuck all to stop it.
The guy in charge of the military and foreign policy can't stop a war?
>>689353223
Your women. Give them to me
>>689357065
Stop trying overstate things so it sounds bad.
The guy had the draw on everyone, there was little to no visibility (go to a club sometime), he didn't have a concept of bystanders because everyone was a target and therefore there was no control of the situation.
It would be irresponsible to do anything but try to get everyone out.
Here I thought the point in the hypothetical was to save lives, it's not?
>>689353174
>was on a FBI watchlist
And somehow managed to still be working for DHS subcontracting Wackenhut.
>>689357206
>>689357471
Strong, thoughtful, fact-filled debate. The right has all the best intellects.
>>689351470
>proud democrat
bullshit. nice bait
>>689354207
If you only have a magazine with 3 rounds you better hope you don't get more than one person breaking into your house at once.
>>689351470
How could anyone think electing a conman and climate denier that wants disband the EPA is a better choice than electing a lifeless shell of a cunt?
It's classic lesser of two evils, I'm with her
>>689357450
Cigarettes can't kill cancer
Mosquitos can't kill Zika
Tax breaks can't defeat inequality
Guns CAN kill criminals
>>689357724
Nope. remember Dubya? Mission accomplished?
yeah that worked out.
>>689357950
Genitically engineered mosquitos can kill zika
>>689357450
>worrying about Zika.
Stop being a fag.
>>689357724
>implying the military will listen to him
>>689357950
>>689358104
>>689357464
>Still taking the pills and kool-aid 15 years later.
I knew Trump voters were retarded but holy shit. Bush, lied about so much. No WMDs. Nothing but rebels who were bank rolled by America in the first place.
>it wasn't murrica's fault!
>it was those damn Muslims they just hate us for no reason!
Hay, how did all those gun rights.. work out during 9/11? All those shotguns and rifles sure did stop those planes.. it's almost like guns can't protect you at all..
>>689357926
>thinking the president of one country will somehow be able to fix the planets climate change.
>>689357858
Don't sell yourself short
>>689358269
A ban on birth control would be mostly effective
A ban on abortion would be mostly effective
A ban on gay mariage would be totally effective
A ban on guns wouldn't stop terrorists from killing people.
>>689357849
Think of it like this if you can. A civilian with a gun in the club, the shooter comes in and starts firing. The civilian pulls his gun, and draws the attention of the shooter. More people are able to flee because now the shooters attention is pulled to a real threat. The body count could have been lower because of this.
>>689357464
>Saeed Al-Ghamdi
>Mohand Al-Shehri
>Abdul Aziz Al-Omari
>Salem Al-Hazmi
>>689358501
Ban on guns would be much more effective on terrorism than a ban on birth control and abortion.
>>689351470
Your kind is the reason this fucking bullshit is happening. And now you're wakeing up?
According to your liberal brothers, I, as a Iraq veteran am a racist, a biggot, and a islamophobe. And now youre coming to me and telling me things that I've told you in the past.
Guess I'm not the only "racist" around here.
Those liberals got exactly what they deserved, and the rest of you will die as well soon enough.
Here in America we don't negotiate with terrorists
>gas the liberals !
>>689358501
>Ban on birth control would be mostly effective
Effective on what? Filling the country with more teen mothers who can't take care of themselves never mind a child?
>>689351470
>after last night
what happened last night?
>>689358308
Please tell us you're not that stupid. Saddam DID have WMDs, the entire world knew this, from Bush to Hillary Clinton. If you'd ever come out of your delusional little liberal bubble, you'd already know this.
>>689358705
No guns were used in 9/11 or Boston bombings
As a woman I would never vote for Trump in a million years. He doesn't respect us? Fine. He won't have our votes then. Everyone knows you can't win an election without the female vote.
I'm voting for Hillary instead. I don't even like her, but I think it's time that a woman have a chance at the presidency. Every other woman I know is doing the same. We're sick of government being an "old, all white, boy's club" so we're all voting for Hillary despite typically being conservatives.
>>689358705
LOL no it won't. Terrorists don't follow the law.
>>689358632
>The civilian pulls his gun, and draws the attention of the shooter.
As in gets shot?
How is he drawing attention, by firing through a crowd irresponsibly?
>>689358774
Wait who wants to ban birth control? Wtf nobody ever said that.
>>689358641
>Saeed Al-Ghamdi
>>689358845
> as a woman
>>689358632
Yes, lets make sure people who are intoxicated are also carrying guns. That will surely lower gun fatalities.
>>689353295
By the way, any job can get out sourced.
>>689358754
>the rest of you will die as well soon enough
Thanks for "protectin' muh freedoms" hero!
>as a Iraq veteran am
an idiot
>>689358641
>Mohand Al-Shehri
>>689358841
Still more effective.
More people would break the ban on abortion and birth control.
>>689358857
Neither did abortionists for yrs.
>>689351470
>look at what people do when faced with a dilemma these days
you're posting about it on 4chan. how does that make you any better?
low energy
>>689357361
Scenario 1:
>moderate beheader gets gun legally.
>tax money goes to the government.
>Obongo gets to blame guns.
>powers that be are pleased.
>only 99% chance that Trump gets elected
Scenario 2:
>snackbar gets gun illegally.
>no tax 4 U.
>Ooga Booga forced to confront the real reason for the shooting.
>cognitive dissonance reaches levels that shouldn't be possible.
>Trump elected God-Emperor of the United States
>all leftists deported to Eurabia
>>689358817
>he did have them we just couldn't find them after looking for years.
Mmm... OK.
>>689358892
>as in gets shot
Yeah probably. Not gonna lie, he probably will get shot but he could still have pulled attention long enough for more people to flee. And he draws attention by firing at the shooter, the club obviously wasnt as packed as you think because more would be dead.
>>689358817
Regardless of whether he had wmd or not Saddam was the only thing stabilizing the region. The power vacuum left after he was taken out is what lead to the creation of ISIS.
>>689358641
>Abdul Aziz Al-Omari
>>689358817
>Saddam DID have WMDs
>>689358845
How does he not respect women?
>>689358845
Same here. I don't see how trump expects to win when he intentionally alienates half of the population.
>>689358641
>Salem Al-Hazmi
4 out of 4 wrong you are officially a fucking retard
>>689358845
You could always move to Germany. Having those XX chromosomes in charge there truly made Germany a better place. Full of muslims who love that white pussy.
Your kind are the weak of our white race, a weakness that will burn away in the forges of the war thats currently raging in the western world.
>>689358990
You're kidding right?
>>689359040
Why not the owner of the club?
>>689359111
Stay delusional my friend
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html?_r=1
>>689359259
Why would the owner be there every night the club is open? Why should being an owner of a business mean you should also be security?
>>689359149
Cool, so anytime there is a genocidal dictator in power we should keep them in power
>>689359130
Too crowded, anon. Unless it happened at ascertain point in which people made a exit possible, but right from the get go it's no help because of the chaos.
He would be respected, but not effective.
>>689355282
>being this retarded
>>689359397
You arent a business owner huh?
>>689359149
>Saddam was the only thing stabilizing the region
>Mass genocide of Kurdish people
>stabilizing the region
>>689359060
Oh, tell me more about the world! Please do! I'm sure that gender studies PHD your rich parents paid for surely gave you superior insight about the workings of the world.
Surely the poor oppressed muslims will spare your life once they find you and your gay friends in a bar somewhere.
Keep those side blinders on, they suit you.
>>689358845
And this is precisely why woman shouldn't have the right to vote. Voting for someone based on emotion and because they have a pussy. And how the fuck are you retarded enough to think Hillary respects anyone let alone women? She married a rapist and has defended him and other rapists for years.
>>689353028
Gun control worked for France... Oh wait, no.. It didn't work at all.
>>689359459
Nonsense. If the shooter was so intent and determined, how did people get away? A civilian with a gun couldve helped
>>689359530
You expect us to vote for someone who would actively try to take away/limit certain rights hat we currently have? You're an idiot. That's half the population dumbfuck.
>>689358845
>I'm voting for Hillary instead. I don't even like her, but I think it's time that a woman have a chance at the presidency
This is why America is fucked. Millennials like this retard don't even pay attention to issues, it's just a meme to them.
Enjoy being raped by muslims in your own neighborhood.
>>689359149
>stabilizing the region
>>689359578
compare the number of mass shootings in france to the number of mass shootings in the US
>>689359057
>any job can get out sourced.
yea... no.
>>689359425
>anytime there is a genocidal dictator in power we should keep them in power
We already do.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_authoritarian_regimes_supported_by_the_United_States
>>689359487
without chaos, there is no order
>>689359613
Because it wasn't and actual machine gun so he could only fire so many bullets as well as carry so many.
How did they survive?
Ask anyone who has survived something similar, wits/luck.
>>689359149
That region has been at war for thousands of years, same exact shit Carter was dealing with, and presidents before him. ISIS is no different than past groups, with the exception they have sensationalized themselves through use of the internet.
>>689359770
Yes. Get more life experience kiddo
>>689358990
Are you fucking insane? You realize they want to shut down places like planned parenthood who provide in most cases FREE birth control? You are aware of that right? You're also aware that the bullshit excuse they use is that it's because of abortion? When more than 80% of the US's planned parenthood locations do not in any way shape or form do abortions and that the ones that do only allow it BEFORE 8 weeks? No? Didn't know that? Had no clue? I bet you're out there picketing against those damn sinning abortion doctors tho.
>>689359425
No we should stop trying to play world police and stay the fuck out of other countries.
>>689359480
No, and neither are you.
What's your point?
>>689359257
>>689353295
You are a top tier faggot, I hope you get outsourced by a smart Chinese replacement.
>>689359003
>>689359062
>>689359154
>>689359234
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm
>Wikipedia
>"officially"
top kek
>>689359817
>actual machine gun
Again, you show your ignorance
>>689359149
this is true, Saddam was a fucker but he kept the rag heads in line.
>>689359734
you're an idiot
>>689359845
Yeah because that will work
>>689359770
You can't be this stupid.
>>689359487
That shit is nothing compared to what ISIS has already done in the short time they've been in power.
>>689359799
>without chaos, there is no order
So it's okay for Muslims to commit mass terrorism on American soil then? Because as you say, as long as we have stability who cares about innocent lives.
>>689359851
My point is most good business owners are there every night because surprise their business is their livelihood.
>>689359530
>Voting for someone based on emotion
>Implying Trumpies don't do the same.
>>689353478
I see, so how often do you have to complete a background check and show a state driver's licence when making a store purchase for cigarettes?
>>689359859
Thought so.
>>689353607
The national laws that restrict your freedom will be very close.
>>689359919
Listen.
You can nitpick and ignore the actual point, but it stands. You didn't actually argue anything.
Those that survived did so through luck, because of which part of the club they were at, and because the guy wasn't anymore effective than he was. A gun would have not helped them. Keeping their heads and getting the fuck out of there did.
>>689359837
Implying you can't buy birth control at the store. Or go to a real doctor.
Lol you dumb ass entitled millennials want everything to be given to you by the givernment.
>>689359639
Oh no what will women do without the right to murder babies? How will they go on? You understand the president doesn't give and take rights away right? Congress does that.
>>689358845
I'm sorry, it appears that 4chan has switched your picture with another poster's. It happens sometimes. I imagine that the other anon is very surprised to see a pair of timestamped tits instead of the misleading lefty bullshit he intended to post. Nevertheless could you please post your tits + timestamp again, so that we might get on with this discussion?
>>689359907
So even though Bin Laden named them personally, you'd rather believe a 15 year old BBC opinion piece?
Ok kiddo
>>689360186
Spotted the newfag.
>>689360054
no. We care about American lives. Kurds and people in that part of the world are an inferior breed of human. Their lives are of far less value then a cultured modern westerner with morals.
>>689358190
The military officers will listen to whoever is in charge.
They wont risk losing their pension check and free health care after 20 years.
All about the money.
>>689360043
>he thinks ISIS isn't a group started as an offshoot of the previous regime. What were we calling them during Bush? Tailiban? What was it for Clinton? We keep giving them funny names but they're the same people.
>>689352135
I know actually a few democrats who are also 40% of Bernie supporters are going to trump
>>689360295
So you are saying someobe in the club with a gun that could have drawn the fire from the shooter would not have saved anymore lives. That the tactic of drawing fire never saves anyone? Because he has a machine gun and one grenade, which we all know makes you a unstoppable machine? Your critical thinking skills are totally on point
you reap what you sow
>>689351470
I never got why conservato>>689358314
Thinking the president of the most influential country in the world with the second highest carbon emissions, won't effect climate change
Trump only amplifies a great existential threat to human civilization. His regressive policies will no doubt push us much further over the tipping point than we currently are.
>>689360399
>Quick I have nothing to say
Nice dubs tho.
>>689354289
0/10 add more buzzwords please faggot.
>>689360079
>it's okay if I vote with my fee-fees because I think the other guys do it too
Libshit logic.
>>689359837
Wow... you know you can get birth control at other places right kiddo?
And yeah fuck planned parenthood.
>>689360581
Yes because it has worked so far right?
>>689360442
No replies necessary
>>689360317
No shit idiot, having a misogynist for president doesn't help. And if you care so much about the "babies" go to an abortion clinic and offer to adopt them. You won't, because you really don't give a shit about babies/fetuses. It's about forcing women through pregnancies.
>>689351470
Ideally, you'd just leave the country now because you're a fucking retard and that's not going to magically change after November when Trump is forced to slink back to one the many mansions purchased with the millions he inherited from daddy and scammed off of gullible suckers like yourself.
>>689360612
>Damage control
>>689360697
How is making the problem worse a solution to the problem:
>>689360687
Making it more difficult/expensive doesn't help. The less accessible it is, the more unintended pregnancies.
>>689359521
>Oh, tell me more about the world!
Okay, there are these morons who buy into the military propaganda of "being all they can be" or being "one of the few, the proud".
Then they get on the internet and whine about how they're being "oppressed by the liberals". When someone disagrees with them they must be blind, regressive, silver-spoon.
>>689360509
And now they've grown without anyone to hold them back. Saddam may have been a dick, but he prevented this kind of thing from getting bigger and spreading to the area he controlled.
>>689360772
Truth stings doesnt it, mudslime.
>>689351470
Deus Vult.
In Trump we Trust.
because we have to, he's our protector, a silent guardian, a watchful protector, a Dark Knight.
>>689356580
If you really want people to stop having guns, why dont you try to take them yourself instead of crying to Big Brother?
>>689360934
How come obama with 8 years in office hasnt done much to curb the emissions?
>>689360956
Entitled much?
Get a job and make a dollar. Buy condoms you lazy millennial.
>>689360531
The assailant's gun would be on uou anyways you just changed the order on who gets shot at. Meantime, you probably shot a couple of people since there are so many around.
That works if you were never an intended target.
No one said he had a machine gun in this conversation and if you think someone did, read more carefully.
>>689353028
>want gun control
Come and take it faggot fuck boi.
>>689360819
>having a misogynist for president doesn't help.
Actually it does, because there are real issues out there that need addressing, like security, the economy like foreign policy.
Feminists and liberals need someone to tell them to shut the fuck up and get a grip. At the moment we have a president who spends more time on twitter memes and congratulating 'heros' like Bruce Jenner etc, than actually taking a lead in the world.
>>689352135
Fellow trump supporters in this thread I have a challenge for you. Go argue with this cuck on politics and see where you get. I wonder if you can make any progress because it's been a year of arguing and he is too hard headed to rethink about allowing guns, Muslims are actually bad and ect
Kik : theduke2121
Have fun arguing.
>>689360687
>birth control at other places
You mean like a doctor? Where they'll charge you 75 to 200 dollars per pack of pills? You'll need 12 packs if those. Or 350 dollars for a shot every 3 months that is so prone to failure the fact that they push it on women is hilarious? Or maybe they should get one of the implants for 750 to 850 dollars that can and has on a consistent basis ruined a woman's chance of ever having children ever. You have no clue what you're even talking about but you're a Trump voter that's to be expected.
>>689353601
10/10 I love your statement.
>>689361295
>>689360442
>>689361043
>Calls himself westerner with morals
>Says Kurds are inferior breed of human
Despite the fact that Kurds are one of the few groups in the region that are pro-Western.
>>689354539
>put all muslims in camps, moderates and extremists
>send them back to cereal
>or just shot them
>tfw america no longer suffers terror attacks.
>>689351470
>proud Democrat
>voting for trump
I think we all really know what political party you truly affiliate with, fuck off back to /pol/ or glp, or whatever other embarrassing shithole you spawned from you filthy shill
>>689361278
No, it does not help 50% of the population that needs to keep their reproductive rights. Obviously there are other issues that need addressing that Hillary ALSO addresses. Trump doesn't just refuse to address women, he threatens our freedoms. Fuck that shit. Just because you worship your tiny penis doesn't mean that it's really that great, kiddo.
>>689361361
Condoms. Look them up.
Thank me later.
>>689361209
How would his gun be on everybody? How can you assume the civilian shooter would shoot others, you do realize most people who carry take classes? How can one shooter, have his gun trained on everybody?
>>689361295
He also supports Bernie and Hillary by the way, forgot to mention
>>689357179
Found the 16yo CoD cuckboy
>>689361573
I'm guessing you're one of those guys who refuses to use one. Idiot.
>>689359521
Wow great assumptions, but assumptions none the less. I think you should leave, you're embarrassing yourself
>>689361560
This. No sane person is proud of being a democrat.
>>689361568
>reproductive rights
You wont have any rights once the muslim invasion begins
>>689361501
stealing memes from dark souls mfw
>>689358269
Why don't we just ban assault muslims?
>>689360975
The Tailiban.. was fucking shit up while he was alive you brain dead fuck. Seriously, how fucking retarded are you? Let me guess you were home schooled? By your PA and MA?
>>689361741
Did you mean to respond to me? Cuz I think you are confused. I am saying to that guy to use condoms instead.
>>689358845
>as a woman
>implying your a woman
>implying women should vote
>>689361851
Hilary isn't going to have a problem bombing Muslims.
>>689361573
Clearly they didn't work. You're alive.
>>689361980
Doubtful. Bernie changed the game, and hillary followed suit.
>>689360819
Why should I adopt a bunch a babies I had nothing to do with the creation of? How about being responsible for your own fucking actions instead of trying to pass them off on someone else? And no one is forcing women to get pregnant. With all the contraceptives there's no reason a woman should be getting pregnant unless they want to. And if you don't want to get pregnant maybe don't go whoring around and getting knocked up and you won't have to worry about "getting forced to go through pregnancies". But then not being a slut and being responsible for your own actions isn't a concept most woman are familiar with these days.
>>689354028
Jesus you are fucking retarded.
>>689361501
retarded libcuck detected
>>689361973
>your a woman
>your a
>your
Trumpie detected.
>>689361955
Except you're either a virgin who doesn't know anything about sex, or a retard who refuses to use condoms because "hurr durr it doesn't feel good". I know because all men fall into one of those two categories.
>>689361602
Because one guy managed to kill 50+ and injure even more. That means bystanders being injured is highly likely.
He wasn't Bourne. The place was simply packed, he shot fish in a barrel. Arm one of the fish and the guy still had the drop in everyone and the better vantage.
How can he train his gun on everybody?
He comes in through the only exit and points. Trust me, they piled up away from him, it's natural.
>>689353601
Agree 100% until...
>Removing muslims will stop terrorism.
Then it'll just be some other group. The only way to stop terrorism is to remove all intelligent life in the universe.
>>689361980
Hillary isn't going to have a problem doing whatever Isreal tells her to. It's not the mudslimes outside the united states that concern me.
>>689362091
They are taking responsibility, that's why they're having an abortion you stupid fuck.
>>689362060
Nice one kiddo. Guess this means I win the the Internet debate. Goodnight.
>>689362185
So the club is packed, and he was still able to train his weapon on everbody? Everybody. You are making him sound like Bourne. Also, pretty sure a club cant have just one exit, fire hazard.
>>689362157
Womens suffrage was a gigantic mistake.
I like my women the way I like my pistols... In my pants.
>>689362279
Murdering a baby you didn't want because you're too stupid not to get pregnant isn't taking responsibility you stupid fuck.
>>689353601
underrated post.
>>689361295
>>689354520
And anyone who doesn't think like you is a cuck, amirite?
image dump commencing.
>>689362394
Yet, it happened.
They literally had to break out to escape.
I'm making him sound like he cherry picked the place. It was a perfect venue for an easy massacre.
>>689362190
>Then it'll just be some other group
There are no other groups who want to harm westerners as much as Islamists do.
>>689362160
Naw I usedon't condoms all the time back inext high-school and college. Married now thoughwith insurance for the wife's pills. I think your confused were on the same side bro. You are not following the thread right.
>>689362614
And im still saying if a man with a gun was in the club, the outcome would have been better
