I'm sure the Founding Fathers intended for Americans to be able to murder 50 people in a matter of minutes when they passed the Second Amendment.
>>689258728
Are you fucking kidding me? Do you honestly believe that gun control is the answer? Outlaw guns and the only people that will have guns are outlaws (including those that enforce the law, they're in the group of outlaw.) Either you're trolling or you're a real fucking retard. Please, if you're a real fucking retard explain your stance. Id like to know how more control of people's personal lives will stop mass murder. I'd like to know how guns kill people so much so they need to be outlawed. There are more lives lost to abortion EVERY day than guns. But oh let me guess those aren't lives or its "population control". All motor vehicles should be banned. And only used by the government.
>>689259613
>are you kidding me?
Also nice talking points zzzzzzzzz
>>689259613
>>689259613
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>>689259857
>>689258728
Omar did nothing wrong.
You can't have a world free of guns, there is no putting the genie back in the bottle. Guns are here and they won't ever go away. No law that can be passed will make guns go away. The only thing that you can do is make sure that the good guys have guns too. France has some of the strongest gun laws in the world and all it does is make its people sitting ducks. Bad men don't follow the law, only good ones do. Gun Free Zones are shooting galleries for bad men.
>>689258728
But the counter is 4 digits... that has to be a good thing. Did it come from Australia?
>>689258728
And I'm sure they thought of your troll thread when writing the first.
>>689259613
>"Are you kidding me?"
You're the right wing version of CARL THE CUCK
>>689259613
>Birth Control?
BAN IT
>Abortion?
BAN IT
>Gay Marriage?
BAN IT
>Guns?
Look, banning things never works. People will find ways to get them.
Murrica.
>>689260525
>>689258728
if those people happened to be injuns or niggers, then sure that sounds about right.
>>689259934
>>689260050
>>689260126
Kek, yup yall just trolls. Trump is a fact socialist piece of shit. If Hillary Clinton was Stalin, then Trump is Hitler. To assume I'm in support of him really makes an ass out of you and me. Once again Id like to new your libtard reasoning and you're euro fag reasoning to see you leftist fucks prove you're the same piece of shit as a conservative.
>>689260700
>>689259613
give guns to people who know how to use them and wont abuse them
you shoudlnt be able to buy some pizza and while your at it pick up an assault rifle with your order
>>689260734
>>689258728
The founding fathers thought gun ownership was fine.
They just weren't expecting the darkies to get their hands on em.
>>689260734
;
Anyone care to guess how many people died of Tobacco last night? This is a tiny number in a huge country. Crazy is crazy. Religion is the enemy.
>>689260953
Kek all school shooters are white
>>689260672
Yeah. I said ban it. Quote me on that cucklord king of the fags. Big deal. Once again you've failed to humor me in giving me an answer. I'm so autistic it's artistic. I said in my post that why would we want more government control. You assumed that in me bringing up abortion that I am pro life. Which Im not. I'm pro, YOU do YOU and I do ME. The FEDERAL government shouldn't be regulating all that shit. This country isn't democratic because the states have no power because that was taken away by the UNCONSTITUTIONALIST named Abraham Lincoln.
>>689260953
Yeah, or religious zealot shit-skins like the guy who killed those faggots. These cucks will never understand. Funny how shooters always go to places where guns aren't allowed eh?
its the cowardness of the fags that has resulted in this being the largest mass shooting in US history
example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Gc2QRdcSGI [Embed]
>>689260929
Right, tell me how many times you've "legally" purchased a firearm while getting pizza lmfao
>>689258728
Actually, they probably intended their not be another large threat after we established our country. You know, they probably thought people were smart enough to exterminate violent groups like muslims
>>689261355
KEK, the fags and librards are the very reason these things happen. And also because the government is probably behind all of it for propaganda. Create fear, so people that can't critically think will be afraid and follow like the sheep they are.
>>689261319
What do you know, an uneducated /b/tard
Tyrone Mitchell
Marc Lépine
Wellington de Oliveira
Jiverly Wong
Jeffrey Weise
Peter Odighizuwa
Latina Williams
Jason Hoffman
Alvaro Castillo
The list goes on and on, faggot.
>>689258728
There've been 1500 gun murders this year in Chicago alone.
If all those pissed off negros had to kill a motherfucker by hand, there'd be a lot less murders, and impulsive murders, or "crimes of passion", would be about 0, cause having to hold somebody with your own two hands and kill them or beat the life out of them one blow at a time right in front of your face is a hell of a lot less doable than driving past someone and firing a few shots out your window from the safety of being out of range & sight. Shit, you never know when someone's gonna fight back & with what, that's a huge risk you're taking in hand to hand. It's why every army with bayonettes could never get anyone to use them. It's too personal and too risky, people just don't want to do it.
Guns don't kill people, they just make doing it as easy and convenient as possible with as low of a risk of instant retaliation as possible.
>>689258728
Doesn't really matter. The weapons available at their time are basically the same difference as we have now.
Look at it like this: 1v1 with a musket or 1v1 with an assault rifle.
The problem is that the people are unarmed and thus unable to defend themselves. Basically exactly the situation the Founding Fathers were trying to avoid.
In their time everyone had weapons.
>>689258728
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI6HQYmVM7Y
>>689261797
No it's the reverse. You even read it?
>>689258728
>>689258728
the founding fathers wouldn't have allowed a dirty muslim walk around unsupervised
>>689261895
lol
you're so deep within the ideology you're lost in it
>>689262018
Some people need to be killed. Guns do that well.
You fuckers think life doesn't have an end sometimes.
>>689261352
ohboyherewego.jpg
>>689262018
Damn. 1500 dead niggers this year.
Just think forward a hundred years.
>Average mating cycle of the urban nigger is 20 years.
>That's 5 generations in a century
>reproduction rate of silverback niggers is 4:1
>exponential growth achieved
That's a lot of future niggers we won't have to worry about. Chicago is doing the future of mankind a favor.
>>689260503
I see no issue with that way, are you supporting his POV ?
>>689262303
seems like a lot of americans need to be killed
guess that goes without saying huh
>>689262242
/thread
If you can't hold it, you are on the wrong place.
>>689262242
KEK! Gold
>FBI was watching him for years
>Didn't take his guns
This is the real problem.
>>689262018
That's a good point but I'm still all for people being able to carry guns with a permit. Mentally ill fucks shouldn't be allowed to have guns, they should only be used for self defense and hunting.
>>689258728
>>689262283
You're so blind to what's happening in the world you can read what's I'm saying.
LUL, once again failing to show me what I'm lost in? Tell me anon, ENLIGHTEN me to what you see. So I can find my way out of this idealogy
>>689262352
woa
1500
x4
x4
x4
x4
=
Thank Chicago for removing 1,536,000 niggers from a century from now.
Because terrorists follow laws.
>>689260247
Remember to take into account that all of those countries have fewer people than in the united states. U.S. has ~318 million whilst Norway has only about 5 million.
>>689262889
you don't know anything about me
you're the one doing all the talking
all I've said so far is you're an ideological lunatic out in the damn weeds.
people like you are why libtards are convinced we should pass strict gun regulation & enforce the shit out of it nationwide.
come down off your ledge wacko
>>689263086
and that's every year, anon.
>>689263299
what does "per million people" mean?
>>689258728
>gun free zone
>a crazy guy pops out with a gun
>shots the firsts bullets and kill someone
>no one have a gun to react
>he shot even more bullets
>50 guys dies, 57 harmed (the crazy shorter is alive)
Now, with guns:
>a crazy guy pops out with a gun
>shot the firsts bullets and kill someone
>someone, with a gun, react and kill him before he shots more
>numbers of death: 2-3 at max(including the crazy shoter)
>>689258728
I see this thread, and I wonder
>Why are you not celebrating?
Yesterday Night, Faggots and Musilims died
Today is a good day.
Take a DEEP Breath
Breath that AIR
Smell That?
That's Purified air that isn't being tainted by queer faggots and nigger muslims.
>Feels goood manng
>>689258728
>>689260247
Cherry picking data clusters ftw.
If guns were harder to get, less shootings would happen
>>689263613
It means that fewer people died from mass shootings than in the U.S. You can't just fucking scale the shootings up and claim it has a higher crime rate.
>>689261352
>doesnt like that the niggers were freed
>>689258728
Because gun control stopped that mass shooting in Pairs... Oh wait no it didn't.
>>689263613
Also it ignores valuable data such as gun laws and things of that nature. Fuck off.
>>689262050
Not really though. If one person were to walk into a night club with an 18th century musket, they might hit one person before being subdued given how long those took to reload and fire. And that's assuming they don't miss (very inaccurate weapons). There's a reason firing lines were used at that time period.
>>689263591
We screwed the pooch turning the tide of WWII.
Imagine if this were actually reality.
You think we'd be dealing with gun violence and niggers shooting shit up constantly? Or niggers at all?
>>689263960
Well ... Yes. That's the way it's worked out elsewhere. No cherry pick required. Literally every nationstate that has reduced access to guns, have had reductions in mass shootings.
It's a very simple equation. Less guns, less shootings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Marathon_bombing
You don't need guns to kill people.
Just creativity and imagination.
>>689263990
fewer people doed because the population is smaller
but their rate of killings is higher than the US
make sense now?
>>689260672
Hmm I've got some right of center views and don't want to ban any of these.
>>689259613
This guy gets it
>>689261352
The unconstitutionalist? You mean that guy who kept the U.S.A. as one nation? Yep, he must have fucking hated the constitution, what, with all the "keeping America alive" bullshit. Lincoln was as anti-American as they come, you got it.
>>689261529
you missed the point peabrain
>>689260667
Could i please have the source for that?
>>689258728
If sandnigger mudslime terrorists would stop killing people this wouldn't be an issue.
so 4chan is now missing 50 members from Orlando? fuck
>>689264469
Sure but what if 1 person walked into a nightclub with 50 people armed and trained with pistols?
What if he walked into that same night club with 50 people who were unarmed?
Which scenario ends better?
>>689262018
>If all those pissed off negros had to kill a motherfucker by hand, there'd be a lot less murders
With the exception of Japan, no country that has enforced gun control has seen significant reductions in murder, violence, suicide, or terrorism.
If a mother fucker wants to kill a mother fucker, he can and will kill a mother fucker.
Who cares. They were faggots
>>689259613
Abortions aren't used as violent crimes.
>>689259613
fuck you're retarded. 'murica
>>689260672
>Birth control
Legalized
>Abortion
Legal in some areas, contested in others
>Gay marriage
Legalized
>Guns
Legal but contested
>Weed
Legan in some areas, on the way to being fully legal
'Murrica is gonna get things right eventually, make EVERYTHING legal and we will truly be the land of the free
>>689259613
nicely meme'd
>>689263775
>faggots and muslims
how does that work exactly? they were just hanging out? Because there's nothing more that conservative religious muslims looove more than hanging out with homosexuals?
Or has Fox managed to sell you the idea that the great white christfag republican hope depends on defeating absolutely everyone on earth now...
>>689260734
Hilarious because Stalin killed his own people while Hitler tried to save his. I agree.
>>689264937
Escalation.
Everyone now has a gun, so some people start driving around in tanks.
What would of happened if one guy tanks into a nightclub and everyone in there were in their tank with armor piercing rounds loaded.
How would that turn out?
>>689264943
except all of them
OP is a EUROPIG. His opinion in is invalid
>>689265044
>can't eat ice cream outside in the street
Some states are more free that others.
>>689258728
Well back then they didn't account for niggers having rights to murder faggots.
>>689258728
True but the founding fathers would also have puked and got pissed the second they saw a twerk video. Should we police peoples dress and attitudes to?
>>689265303
Except none of them.
There is zero correlation between violence/suicide/terrorism/murder and gun control.
>be me, OP.
>Getting fucked by Jamal in the ass at gay night club
>shooter comes in with gun
>ALLAH ACKBAR!
>like 20 people conceal carrying at the club pull out their guns to defend themselves.
>Nobody knows who the shooter is so they all shoot at other people with guns who intended to shoot the shooter.
>Cops come in, don't know who the real shooter is so they shoot anybody holding a gun.
>All gun carriers killed, innocents caught in the crossfire also killed
>Concealed carriers successfully stops mass murder after mass murder takes place
>Jamal cums
>mfw
>>689265441
you're right, they owned people back then.
>>689265407
What does the nationality matter for? You don't pay attention to your own countrymen with the same opinion.
>>689265283
Well since tanks aren't available to civilians I'd say your not making sense.
Let's revise the scenario.
What if 5 out of those 50 people had a weapon?
Think it would've ended better or worse?
>>689265283
I'm going straight to explosives.
I see dipshit assholes walking around with guns, I'll rig my house, my car, my clothes, and carry pockets full of incendiaries to give out as gifts.
Fuck all ya.
>>689258728
>americans
>calling a sandnigger american
I smell heresy
>>689258728
That's cute: let's not bother to look at how fucking crazy the people are who are doing the murdering, right? Nah, easier to just blame a lifeless gun that can't do a goddamned thing without a person to point and squeeze the trigger. Sure, that sounds smart, you fucking ignoramus.
>>689265550
Except in every study ever conducted by any organization other than the NRA.
Welcome to the discussion, faggettissimo.
the real story here is the cowardice of the average person. if everybody rushed the shooter there would be maybe 3-5 people dead but since everyone is a self serving piece of shit they run and use others as cover.
>>689258728
the answer is more guns not less, if someone had a gun at the nightclub they could've killed the shooter before he did anything.
>>689258728
yes but why are you using an act of terrorism to push a political agenda?
>>689265702
/thread
>What if 5 out of those 50 people had a weapon?
one of they would kill the towelhead before the killerspree. Reducing the casualites to 3-10 at max.
>>689261476
Wtf!? Why would the faggot block the door!?
>>689265540
Obviously shooting people and the clothes people wear are equivalent.
>This is why people think (know) that Americans are fucking retarded.
Never procreate.
>>689265702
Tanks are available to civilians, and it's not that it doesn't make sense, it's more that it's an unrealistic situation.
Much like an armed populace achieving anything other than harm and damage, policing itself
>>689265540
honestly yes. we should go back to the 50's life.
>>689262018
>There've been 1500 gun murders this year in Chicago alone.
I live in Toronto Ontario, it's a similar size as Chicago, about 3million people. This year has the most amount of shootings in the last 10 years and is an violent crime epidemic. There have been 13 shootings so far this year and 6 fatalities.
>>689265584
Why wouldn't they just all shoot the faggot who screamed allah ackbar at the top of their lungs?
>>689264739
The South wanted to secede from the Union collective. Why is it that is ok to force them to join, but if Hitler wanted to annex a country or two he's evil? The original founders would have never killed their own to force their will on others. That was the whole point. Libtards are great at contradicting themselves - that's for sure.
>>689265702
>>689264937
Yes, a room of 50 DRUNK PEOPLE WITH GUNS never ends poorly. Kill yourself, retard.
>>689265861
it's a tiny minority of the homicides that are mentally ill. So small a percentage it's insignificant to the total.
Most are suicides, nearly all the rest are impulse shootings, and crimes of opportunity, committed because the shooter was enraged, grabbed their gun, and acted immediately.
Spin that however you idiots want, but that's what you're dealing with.
>>689265896
The only citations I'm finding show reductions of mass shootings, not reductions in murder, violence, suicide, and terrorism.
>>689264001
>Thinks Lincoln cared about the slaves
Top kek.
>>689266046
The person you replied to is clearly suffering a stroke, say, now-ish.
>MUH GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS
>A CLASSROOM OF 6 YEAR OLDS GOT SHOT UP? I DONT CARE, AS LONG AS I GET TO KEEP MUH GUNS
Amerifats, ladies and gentlemen.
How does it feel to be on the wrong side of history? You are clinging to a 300 year old interpretation of your constitution, too stubborn to admit things have changed. How many more innocents have to die before you people admit you were wrong?
>>689266199
Never said it was right or wrong, nigger. You know, except all the times when the founding fathers did, what, with slavery and all. Read a goddamned book, mongoloid.
>>689266143
Chicago: 1500
Ontario: 6
lol we're kicking your ass!
You guys can't do anything right.
>>689258728
>>689262363
262 million people were killed by their own governments in the 20th century alone.
>>689258728
Let me break it down for you.
The founding fathers never expected people to be that fucking crazy.
The founding fathers never expected this level of social difference - they wanted a homegeneous society.
Tell me anon, where do mass shootings tend to happen? In places where there is a low degree of social diversity? When people are happy and know their role and place in the world, they tend not to behave in this outlier way.
>>689260929
Where the fuck do you live that you have a pizza and guns shop? Although a fantastic idea and I would absolutely patronize such an establishment, I'm afraid they don't exist.
Also, said Pizza and Guns (Slices and Dices a possible name?) shop would still require the mandatory waiting period for an assault rifle. You'd have one cold ass nasty pizza.
>>689266046
Think I hit a nerve. Considering the average life expectancy of people was 30 in the founding fathers time was 30 most of them owned slaves and dueling was common yes I do think the founding fathers would put how people dressed being equivalent with people dying and the value of human life.
>>689258728
But given the location, and that the victims were all faggots, I'm sure they would approve.
>>689259613
Take that rifle barrel out your butt, redneck faggot
>>689266169
the music was very loud
>>689266347
yeah, he didn't at all.
I mean, there was all that shit he wrote, and all the correspondence, and all the philosophizing, and all the struggling with how to do it for years,
but really he just wanted the south's awesomeness and... awesomeness for hisself.
>fucking white trash in dumbhick redeckistan actually believe this.
Why hasn't anyone protested the German embassy with Jew lives matter?
>>689266046
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=cX5CPx4RKWw
Yet in the UK one guy with a machete can stop 30 police for 5 minutes. This is why people of the world think gun control countries are a joke.
>>689266646
Banning guns is retarded, the guns are still out there and will be obtained by people who still want to shoot up your schools.
>>689264917
Nah, they were safe in their mom's basements.
>>689266325
The suicides are mentally ill also. Mental health treatment in the US is utterly abysmal amongst regular civilians, and even worse amongst veterans. These people going without treatment doesn't make the firearms themselves and worse.
In this case, this Omar dude being a muslim was his mental problem, akin to believing shit David Koresh spewed, or that lunatic Applewhite who thought he'd lead people to live on some comet. Whatever, they needed heavy doses of sedatives in between mandatory sessions with psychiatrists, then back to confinement. These fucks with broken brains need to be studied, not simply locked away and forgotten whilst some twat politician yells about banning all the guns. It's lunacy.
>>689266446
The right of white douchebags to swing their guns and cocks around and endanger everyone and everything in public with no concern to anyone but themselves shall not be infringed.
I didn't actually hate my race until I started listening to the insane shit they advocate. Fucking stupid, primitive apes.
>>689266988
The police didn't want to shoot him and he only killed one person.
>>689258728
Uh we are suppose to be allowed to carry guns with us everywhere.
>>689266672
> Considering the average life expectancy of people was 30 in the founding fathers tim
This is wildly inaccurate
>>689266553
too bad Hawks are eliminated tbh. I was rooting for them. How are the cusb doing?
>>689267060
People/criminals want money more. You give money for the guns and the guns dissapear.
The left over guns and criminals who want to kill maim and harm are more easily responded to by police and professionals.
>>689266068
>more like an armed populace achieving anything
My example basically refutes your entire point no?
>>689266264
Must be bait or you're stupid for taking it that literally.
Besides who says everyone in the club was drunk?
What if the bouncers were armed?
>>689260436
Australia did it
>>689266446
If we want to shoot up our own nation it our fucking business. Why do outsiders care it doesn't affect them.
>>689263775
Today is a good day.
>>689267219
>The suicides are mentally ill also
Not necessarily at all. There are plenty of "congrats, you got cancer", and "your divorce lawyer called with some bad news" and "fuck going in to work every day for the rest of this pointless life of indentured servitude".
Many suicides happen for entirely rational reasons. Not everyone has a long charmed life worth living
>>689266325
>Most are suicides
Even still, attempted suicide by firearm is a lot more effective than ODing or cutting, even hanging or asphyxiating. Just because somebody tried to kill themselves doesn't mean they deserve to die. Easy access to guns make rash decisions like suicide a lot easier to follow through with.
>>689266325
>I'm a faggot who gets his facts and opinions from John Oliver!
General homicide/gun violence does not correlated with mental instability because there are inherent differences in the nature of a crime that is self-serving versus one strictly aimed at killing as many people as possible.
Mass shootings do correlate with high rates of mental instability and suicidal tendencies. It is only when you increase this spectrum to the entirety of gun violence (which includes robbery and self-defense) that this correlation disappears. This is because mass shootings only contribute a small fraction of overall gun violence.
>>689267361
Dunno, I'm gay as hell, and don't watch sports.
I just hunt and fish.
>>689267507
Brisbane fag here
Just wanted to chime in and say I own 3 illegally obtained firearms.
>>689267459
A gun is a far better tool for getting money than selling it.
Sell gun = immediate $200
Hold up gas station with gun = immediate $50
How many times can you do the former? Once. How many times can you do the latter? Until you're caught.
Criminals understand power in ways that the average person doesn't seem to.
Anon, if a criminal comes into your house, and they're armed, what do you do? How does this power balance work exactly?
Criminals don't obey they law. Making guns illegal just changes the power balance to be in their favour. Of course they would be pro gun control, since it makes their lives less risky.
Does anyone remember this? Kinda off on the date and people killed, but still....
It's simple. Any other opinion would be understandable, but ignorant and nearsighted.
>>689266730
Thats what where muslims are putting their barrels!!
>haha
>Faggots
Too bad they don't lube it up before blowing your brains out through your ass.
>>689267507
It's also an island without a border to 3rd world, drug and gun running mexico
Maybe if Muslims were banned there would be less Muslims murdering people
>>689266325
I love that right wing retards will assume that this is a left wing post, and left wing retards will assume that this is a right wing post.
Anon, never present facts in a political discussion. They have no place in populist tribal warfare.
>>689267972
Americans have a fear culture tbh. Nobody here in Canada has any fear of armed burglars. Break ins are extremely uncommon especially when the homeowners are home.
>>689268063
>>689267459
mass murderers who don't care to live anymore want money for their guns? lmao your retarded
>>689266143
Yeah and Toronto is 99% white despite what Trudeau may tell you
>>689267664
Let the weak ones die.
Fuck their effeminate cowardice, they belong in hell and out of our gene pool.
>This is survival of the fittest.
>>689267636
Little bitches like this guy are unneeded in our post faggot, post feminist society.
>>689267507
Australia has a lower population and a different culture to the US.
The US has huge centres of people who all have the same culture, a culture of "fuck it I have to get mine". (Eg, ghetto black people, and yes, white people can have this attitude too).
They also touch borders with mexico where, again, there are huge centres of people with the attitude of "fuck it, I got to get mine".
This doesn't apply to Australia at all. We have a small enough population that we can pay our undesirables (I work a 25 hour week and single mothers with 3 kids get more in cash welfare than I get paid). This keeps them from behaving desperately.
Also, given that we have a small population, the demand for illegal guns is relatively low and we can't have them imported as easily.
The US has 10 times our population. Demand for illegal firearms will always be higher, and therefore this demand will always be more easily met. It's "worth" it.
>>689267327
Nah, its close. High infant and child mortality rates dropped the average, but those who made it to adulthood could easily live into their 60s.
>>689268499
>99% white despite what Trudeau may tell you
Toronto is 50% non-white. Outside the financial district I'm a minority among minorities fam. There are 2 or 3 neighbourhoods where a lot of the crime does occur and it's mostly Somali and Jamaican gangs tbh.
>>689268188
We all think the same when you sprout shit like REDUCING GUNS WONT REDUCE GUN RELATED CRIME.
Also, by that point.... How many of your populace is a gun hoarding mass murderer. Is it that significant that you need to be in constant fear of it?
If it's so massive, wouldn't you want to get the guns out of the hands of the mass murderers?
>>689268514
Do you still have to do community service for high school these days?
>>689261895
Wake up sheeple
Jet fuel can't melt steel beams
Chemtrails
You're a fucking 13 year old retard.
>>689267507
Yeah, and Austraila's crime rates have shown no correlated changes in response.
>>689261101
>trumptrain
>>689268662
Sub human scum.
>>689268938
Why did you post a picture of Bernie?
>>689268887
You can measure our shootings by decades.
How can you even say that shit.
>>689268821
I could do better than my 3.3 university average, but I will not tell the parrots of the liberal education machine what they want. Their self surviving bias all cease to serve them.
>>689268938
>>689269188
It is a picture of the Mexican capital building.
>>689269199
I said crime rates, you retarded insufferable faggot.
Your countrymen are still killing and robbing each other just as much as they were in the 90s despite the reduction in shootings.
God bless the innocent victims.
>>689269188
that's the final destination of the trump train
kid
>>689268727
>REDUCING GUNS
you liberal retards think it's so easy. give every gun owner money for their guns, do you realize how much money that is? that would never fucking happen, and even if it magically did happen, blackmarket prices for guns would go up it would be a bidding war between criminals and law enforcement. your ideas are ludicrous give up.
>>689269188
It's actuallya picture of a train. Are you so stupid you can't discrern between a human and a locomotive?
>trump2016
>>689269213
>will cease
>caesar
>>689265044
this
>>689269362
I wonder if that would be more like sucking a dick, or getting your dick sucked.
>>689269362
makes you wonder if this scene triggered the gun man to do it. he was on the fence about it but then saw this and started shooting.
>>689269406
>implying making it harder to get assault type rifles and even handguns wouldn't reduce crazies (of all religions) carrying out mass shootings.
>>689269663
sucking your own dick isn't even gay.
>>689269351
News flash.... People are going to rob and kill each other. It's been happening for many thousands of years now.
Reducing access to tools capable of turning a robbery into a mass shooting is a good thing, not a bad. It leads to a reduction in the very thing that Everyone is worked up about..... Most critically, the mass shootings.
>>689269406
You take the guns and melt them, producing discount steel that you then use on other things, like infrastructure repair and job creation, which leads to investment and reimbursement of that initial outlay of money
>>689269777
guy with back problems and dick breath detected
>people
>talking about fags
Of course OP of all "people" would say that.
>>689269788
>Most critically, the mass shootings.
But that's not even a big concern in the first place. The number of people killed by mass murder is an extremely small percentage of how people are murdered altogether.
If this is such a big concern, then you should be investigating whey there has been an increase in the rate over the last 2 decades.
I'll give you a hint: Mass Murder rates show strong correlation with the increase of murder rates since 2001.
>>689258728
The founding fathers wanted the citizens to have a way to defend themselves against the next tyrannical government. So, relatively average violent gun crimes (not just gun deaths, where the majority are self inflected suicides, but ACTUAL criminals killing other law abiding citizens, which puts the US on average with nearly all other civilized nations) is a very small price to pay, not only to maintain the human right to defend ones self, but more importantly, have just one more foothold to defend against an obviously corrupt and tyrannical government ('guns' are not going to protect the people, but 'government going after guns' will force tyrants to show their true colors).
tl;dr if you actually knew even a tiny amount on the subject, you would clearly be trolling (and, i'm sure you are)... but the sad thing is most people are ignorant, idiotic, and misled, so your retarded viewpoint is one that echos each and every time someone dies and the media hypes it up. So, well played, but to those that actually buy into that nonsense, fuck them.
>>689265044
>>689269572
This is a false sense of freedom.
We will not allow American society to degenerate further.
You democrats have found equality in one aspect, voting, and have since then sought equality in all aspects.
You shall not have it.
We shall have hierarchy.
We shall have order.
Through order, we shall have true freedom, the freedom for true progress rather than degeneration.
>Death to The Left
>>689270144
>>689269788
>Mass Murder rates show strong correlation with the increase of suicide rates since 2001
Fix'd
>>689269742
I wasn't implying anything. The people who commit these crimes are mentally unstable as it is, most background checks keep guns out of their hands. They end up going on the dark web or other black market places to get their weapons anyway. You'r point is moot. go kys
>>689270146
wow a real retard Dad!
>>689270144
What does that mean.... You're all still angry because of some buildings falling down, so you go out and shoot your own people?
I don't really know what your trying to say.... Please expand.
>>689258728
idiot he's not an American he's a terrorist.
>>689260667
this graph ought to be adjusted for population
>>689269362
>gay shit happening in a gay nightclub
holy shit no way!
>>689270366
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-chinese-authorities-arrest-man-for-setting-fatal-bus-fire-that-killed-47-people-20130608,0,274281.story
>>689270425
How is sucking your own dick gay?
>>689269788
Which explains why Norway is behind Switzerland in the casual rate in mass shootings?
No.
Disarmament let Hitler roll over France.
Strength is the only deterrent.
>Law is nothing without strength behind it
You weakling faggots and propagators will be cleansed.
>>689270011
We're not short on metal. I'm a scrapper and the reimbursement for recycled metal is the lowest it's ever been.
It was the highest it's been a few years ago because we were exporting it to china for some kind of construction project.
Blows my mind that we're selling the useful materials to the enemy.
tl;dr you're brimming with unknowledgable solutions, knock it off. Any recycled materials exists to strengthen chinese infrastructure while ours falls apart.
>>689270338
It means that we're not addressing the real elephant in the room, and we need to do a serious investigation of male suicide if we are going to improve society.
Frankly, I'm convinced a lot of the issues have to to with increased insistence of multiculturalism, but I have nothing objective to back this up. Still, the point is that there are deep and inset societal problems that need to be addressed and banning guns will not solve any of them.
>>689270538
>Disarmament let Hitler roll over France.
no. The French being unprepared for a mechanized war let Hitler roll over France you literally retard.
>>689270513
when nothing but dudes watch you? IDK sucking dick in a gay nightclub is pretty gay no matter who it is
>>689262018
>It's why every army with bayonettes could never get anyone to use them
lmao wtf are you talking about, this is the dumbest thing I've ever read
>>689258728
I agree, we need to ban assault vehicles.
These machines can run people over at rates the founding fathers could never have imagined.
>>689270538
So the solution is to do nothing, keep acting like it's all fine?
Or to produce more weapons?
Or is there even an issue in your mind?
I'm genuinely curious as to what you think a solution would be?
>>689270704
Do not spar with your superiors.
The French Republic's parliament was convinced that arms reduction was the path to peace.
Men like Charles De Gaulle demanded a mechanized army, but no advancement would be pursued in a delusional, pacifist, cowardly intellectual era.
Your ilk will not be allowed to destroy this country.
>>689270513
dick in mouth = gay
>>689258728
>minutes
Try hours, also yes they did.
They intended for an entire militia to be able to murder an entire tyranical government and their boot jacks then be home in time for dinner.
>>689269788
The first step to robbing/killing/anycrime is risk assesment in the mind of the criminal.
They weigh the risk. Either they don't care(mentally-ill) or they believe they have a chance at getting away with it. An overhauled background check system will fix the former, and a reasonably-armed populace will fix the latter.
Turning everyone into vulnerable sheep won't deter any wolves whatsoever.
>>689258728
Because they didnt massacre native americans or enslave an entire ethnic group. How righteous and pure they were.
>kys you delusional faggot
>>689268136
so the fear culture just feeds into itself and actually causes armed burglars to break into homes and victimize people?
>>689271126
>They intended for an entire militia
Confirmed for not understanding the wording of the second amendment.
>>689270704
>you literally retard.
lol... yeah... they were not ready for mechanized war... twice --- read a fucking book sometime
>>689271023
I have heard the comparison between guns and vehicles, its rather funny and pathetic at the same time. Transportation is a tad more important than your desire too go out back and shoot cans on a fence you dumb cunt.
>>689271355
>wwi was a mechanized war
Germany surrendered to France in WWI, read a fucking book.
>>689271035
More armed men in closer proximity to potential areas of attack.
A quick response, a quick death for the perpetrator.
Also, the reintroduction of corporal punishment and ultimately the swift application of the death penalty before the names and identities of shooters are erased from the public memory.
>>689271284
Niggers and native americans deserved to be repressed for having vastly inferior societies.
>>689271090
This.
Beat me to it.
>>689271440
Read what they wrote again, but this time, grow a sense of humor
>>689258728
His name is Omar Mateen and he pledged allegiance to ISIS during the shooting.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/12/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting/
His parents were Muslim immigrants.
>>689271126
in "well organized militia" in the second amendment refers to the national guard you dumb ass.
>>689270236
>most background checks keep guns out of their hands. They end up going on the dark web or other black market places to get their weapons anyway.
wrong.
We'll see about Omar, but both Seung-Hui Cho (va tech) and James Holmes (Aurora theater) and most other mass shooters obtained their guns legally. It's so easy there's not need to use the black market
>>689266169
um have you ever been in a nightclub?
It's loud and mostly dark
>>689265584
lmao JAMAL
>>689262018
>My Swedes destroyed the Russians with cold steel.
You cowards should not talk about people who are superior to you.
>>689271373
>implying cars are the only form of transportation
We should all use public transit systems, if you disagree you are a complete hypocrite. Cars are also bad for the environment and we should at most be using bicycles. Why do you really need to travel on your own instead of using public transportation? Deaths by vehicles are orders of magnitude higher than guns.
Also, the right to own weapons is about self defense, not shooting cans.
>>689266199
you're an idiot
>>689271512
Absolutely barbaric.jpg
Martin Bryant must be sad
Someone finally broke his record
My cousin was shot by a nigger 4 times in the face/throat just months after graduating HS, I carry to make sure that doesn't happen to myself or any family around me that I can protect. I would happily give up my firearms if the government could 100% guarantee my protection but they cannot and will not. I can't carry a cop around in my pocket but I sure as hell can carry a Sig on my hip.
>>689271512
Produce more weapons. Check.
>>689266199
it's pointless having a culture where you have the right to own a gun but not the right to carry. Seems to defeat the purpose of self protection
>>689272433
Perhaps if guns were more controlled they wouldn't be so easily sold in the streets or through the Internet and that nigger wouldn't have gotten a gun to kill anyone with.
>>689272433
so if you were approached by an armed nigra you'd be able to draw your weapon, fire and hit him before he shot you? No....no you wouldn't. Now you're dead too and the nigger has one more gun.
Nice job kid.
It's all to cover up the French revolution going on and take guns away if Americans do the same, the shooter was hired and killed by the government.
>>689273029
But sadly we can't control the guns being sold on the streets and hardly the internet, we can only control the ones being sold in legitimate businesses which is where I purchased mine. The world would be a lot better if there were no guns at all but that's a day dream and we're in reality, i'd prefer there be no guns at all but i'd also rather protect myself when Jamal and his monkey crew want to rob my house and hurt me.
>>689273089
That's also why the media has been focused on a gorilla and some rapist. Those small stories never get that big until there's something they don't want us to know
>>689273076
Well glad you'd rather roll over and have him steam roll your ass before he kills you, did someone take your balls from you or did you just willingly give them up?
>>689263466
KEK, okay bro I'm the reason 100% responsible for others decisions and I'm a complete wacko too. I know nothing of rhetoric and I was just schooled in the ways by a true sensei
>>689273733
I'm just not stupid like you. Muggers/shooters don't announce themselves and then wait for you to draw and cock your gun. They take you by surprise so you don't have a chance to react.
kid
>>689271512
On that.... One thing that struck me as awesome (not in a particularly good sense) was the sheer number of police vehicles and officers at or around the scene at the latest shooting.
What were all those officers doing. Not much other than standing round, blocking public access, dealing with media and shit.
How is more guys with guns in any proximity going to do anything.
An assault rifle can unload how many clips in a minute? Unless your military men are going to be posted in every room what will having more "close by" going to do?
Same shooter, same amount of dead before any response. Just means more people rocking up to the aftermath.
That's a winner solution compared to reducing guns.
>>689273473
Make it illegal to sell guns between people, they can only bought to a licensed store.
Enforce this by needing to regularly renew your gun permit by proving you still have your weapon(s).
If a weapon is "lost" you're not longer eligible to own any more, you're clearly too irresponsible.
Something along these lines would go a long way.
>>689273076
Never seen a nigger just run up with a gun in hand already they tend to have a whole wind up with shit talking, flashing it to look intimidating when they lift up their shirt like they're special for having a gun. Monkeys rarely plan anything it's usually a spur of the moment thing which has been reacted on before.
>>689274021
Who the fuck actually cocks their gun and who the fuck takes an hour to draw their firearm? It takes nothing but a second to draw and fire and even if he does get me there's a chance I can take his ass with me too, there's been plenty of cases of people successfully defending themselves with their carries either by killing or scaring off the nig nog
>>689264739
America is CANCER more than /b/. The little amerifag in me still loves it. Used to be a far right thinkin nationalist. Now I see the truth. I'm glad he saved the union. Because 'MURICA. Doesn't make it any less constitutional. The south had the right to secede. But clearly you're another sheep, taught honest Abe was the greatest next to FDR. Which by the way I thunk he was one of the better presidents even though they been the same fagpuppet on unseen string's
>>689264764
And your point was null. It's bullshit dickhead
>>689273473
You say you can't, but you attempt to control and classify every thing else on the internet.
You say you can't, but you've not even tried. Y'all just launch insults and garbage at anyone that says hey, maybe we should try.
>>689259613
Abortion = murder. Jesus Christ you are a massive faggot. Make abortions illegal and next people will be saying jerking off is murder since each load had the potential to be a baby or every period is murder.
>>689274127
That'd be lovely if criminals actually cared about laws and the enforcement of laws, I wouldn't really mind these rules being put into effect but it wouldn't stop criminals but they wouldn't really effect me either.
>>689274498
So let's not try at all.
Let's make more.
Socialist Conundrums
America is capitalist and greedy.
>Half the population is subsidized.
Half the population is subsidized.
>Think they are victims.
Think they are victims.
>Their representatives run the government.
Their representatives run the government.
>Poor keep getting poorer.
Poor keep getting poorer.
>Have things that people in other countries only dream about.
Have things that people in other countries only dream about.
>Want America to be more like other countries.
>>689263960
>If guns were harder to get, less shootings would happen
because all criminals follow the correct chain of command to legally obtain a firearm, right?
>>689265226
Lul, but at the end of the day they still fucked their countries. I'm with you thought I'd rather have Hitler. Doesn't make him any less a facist socialist fuck lul, wants to make a wall like north Korea because that will keep coachroaches (I'm of Mexican descent so please get asshurt spics) like me out keep dreaming
>>689274387
Who's attempting to control or classify anything? I never stated anything attempting to control or classify anything. I didn't launch any insult at anyone saying they should try. Who is ya'll? I am a single person. I don't care if the government tries because any law put into effect wouldn't bother me as I follow the law but I don't see it working at all.
when you need a permit to carry your gun for self protection and hardly anybody has one and the crims don't need one, you are all at their mercy when and if you clash. Your gun laws do not protect you when you are not in your basement.
>>689263662
you should take another shot at english grammar and writing cause you're way of target
>>689274498
How wouldn't that not help stop criminals? Making it harder to sell your guns outside of controlled channels?
>>689274347
he hit you with a brick from behind. Now he has a brick and your gun. Nice work faggot you just armed a nig nog
>>689266446
Ever notice how almost every mass shooting happens i na gun free zone? The Oklahoma City bombing killed 170 people, why haven't we banned fertilizer and diesel fuel?
>>689258728
That's like saying TV and the internet shouldn't be covered by freedom of the press because none of those things existed and only about a third of Americans could read if you include slave populations at the time the Constitution was written.
>>689266862
It was more than freeing the slaves. The war was NOT started to free the slaves. Ig'nant uneducated p.o.s.
>>689271765
you're a delusional fuck, keep believeing you can solve the problem by banning guns, it's been proven wrong time and again retard.
>>689268880
Excuse me?
>>689258728
Of course. How else would we get rid of the brown people?
>>689274988
I love you for coming up with imaginary scenarios to angle it as an entirely bad thing for someone wanting to defend themselves. I understand you have nig nog rape fantasies but not all of us want eggplants in our ass and would like a chance at defending ourselves no matter the situation or chances involved. It is a nig though so they're already armed if they manage to get my firearm it's probably just an addition to the mountain of AK's, food stamps and mary-jew-wanna in their living room.
>>689271680
Citation please
libtards- crazy rightwing guntoting christian
fact- mudslime was registered ISIS loving Democrat
libtards- We need gun control
fact- weapons purchased legally
libtards- ban automatic weapons
fact- mudslime didn't use automatic weapon, those are already illegal.
libtards- gun free zones prevent shootings
fact- bars are gun free zones
>>689275025
this is a dumb comparison, but I'll bite. Fertiliser bombings don't happen en masse annually. Get it?
>>689258728
You mean 0 days since last terrorist attack on US soil. If only those gays carried guns, they would still be alive now
>>689275277
>>689258728
Guns are a tool. People are the real killers.
>op is a tool too. Just mad no one will use him.
>>689274365
try again peabrain and try a bit harder if you want to look intelligent
>>689266658
I purchased and was in possession of my AR10 in just 15 minutes.
Fuck cold pizza in my freedom loving state.
>>689276025
It's funny how this quote is taken out of context. I love the quote and agree with it but maybe you should do a little research as to why Ben F said that shiz
>>689273076
I'm a quick draw competitor and can get 3 accurate shots off in a little over a second, so yes, yes I can.
>>689275494
Am I wrong?
Do most attackers announce themselves and give you a fair chance to draw your gun?
get a clue kid if you ever got mugged you'd be too busy wetting your pants to even think of drawing your gun
>>689263299
I bet as you were writing this comment you were cumming at how good of a point you were making and how clever you think u are. And yet it was completely wrong. Fucking cuck
>>689275637
>ibtards- We need gun control
>fact- weapons purchased legally
that's why we need gun control, Einstein
>>689275854
>>689267233
Good goy!!
>>689276280
I'm Supernigger and I'm bulletproof so no you can't
I'm also the king of france
>>689276413
>cuck
Nice buzzword brah
>>689271680
The Militia Act of 1903 defines an organized AND a reserve militia. If you're an American citizen between 18 & 45 congratulations, you are the reserve militia.
>>689258728
>implying faggots are people.
im surprised PETA isnt making a big deal about this.
>>689276485
>implying there isn't enough already.
>your inner libtard is showing
>>689260929
>>689276113
KEK ^^^ I can't even take you seriously broseph, I'm glad you're one of the few with an average sized human brain so you know how to not abuse firearms.
>>689275755
So you take guns away. But people still want to mass murder, so they use bombs instead. Another OKC happens, or another Boston Marathon, or another unibomber. Do we start banning gasoline, fertilizer and pressure cookers?
The gun was not legally acquired.
Laws don't affect criminals.
>>689276680
>brah
Being this insecure
>>689276896
>implying there isn't enough already.
there obviously isn't enough already or mentally unstable shooters (of all religions) wouldn't easily be able to walk in walmart and buy semi-automatic assault rifles and tons of ammunition with 0 problems.
>>689276660
Google fast draw dumbass, it's a thing. I compete. Most rounds take place faster than an average person can react.
>>689277100
Dubs don't lie
>>689276295
Been mugged before I even carried a firearm, more than once. I live in Vegas it's bad enough here as is and yeah most nigs tend to announce themselves way ahead of time, a white dude probably won't make an announcement and just go for the kill but i'm far more likely to have an issue with a black person as they've been the source of every confrontation i've had in life so far so they are the ones I generally keep an eye on. You are neither right nor wrong, I also don't know why you are projecting with this "kid" stuff so hard it's in every reply you make yet I haven't retaliated at it, You must still be in school because you only hear children forcibly use that insult on repeat hoping to make some sort of point that isn't there.
Enjoy being cucked by your government merifags.
>>689277100
Dubs don't lie.
>>689277009
vote for Trump he has a plan for them
>>689277413
I am.
>>689277270
>cuck
Nice buzzword bro
>>689260938
>Trump has the absolute worst possible trigger discipline
Doesn't surprise me one bit.
>>689260811
Your rebuttal is impeccable.
>>689277481
Is buzzword your first buzzword? How has leddit and tumblr been treating you these days?
>>689276960
Not my pressure cooker I use that to eat.
>>689271680
False
mi·li·tia n.
1. An army composed of ordinary citizens rather than professional soldiers.
2. A military force that is not part of a regular army and is subject to call for service in an emergency.
3. The whole body of physically fit civilians eligible by law for military service.
There are a number of reasons why it's the right of the free people to own and bear arms. Should an enemy who would use force to deprive us of life, liberty, or property, we have the right, or even an obligation, to meet the enemy with overwhelming force. I also feel that public/government/military service should be encouraged anyway. People in our country are taking from the government without making any contributions.
Does anyone have running statistics of how much violence and war have been happening before and after America?
>>689259613
abortion is amazing
