Post 'em faggots.
https://www.politicalcompass.org/test
>>683880818
Proud.
>>683880818
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>>683881405
>ancap garbage
Cant stump the trump
I have always been this libertarian but often shift left and right
>>683881405
>>683880818
Asuhhhh dudes
>>683883309
Jesus, not sure if commie or Nazi but definitely a fan of the Big Brother
>>683883280
>>683882133
>tfw Gandhi
Lets here is boys, judge away
huh, more liberal then i thought. explains why i voted for sanders.
About the most vanilla you can be
hmm
bern
>>683884428
I'm the same as you.
socialism
So many fags in the green here.
Check em
>>683884813
>purple quadrant master race.
>>683884112
Couple squares away from Hitler over here.
No one to vote for
>>683885453
>>683883280
????????????????????????
rate
>>683880818
the proletariat must seize the means of production
>>683885514
>>683883844
Samezies
>>683885453
Implying I'm not a Nazi
My results
>>683885249
tell the guy who you're paying 50 cents that it's just "freedom" at work.
>>683883380
my boy
>>683886134
the donald trump effect
>>683886099
He can pay him whatever he wants you gay
>>683886099
yeah I bet he really forced that guy to work for him. its not like he has negotiating power or anything.
read a fucking book
>>683884656
autism
>>683886000
Lol fagget you can see the circle's outline in the green. Literally the opposite of a Nazi.
top left
>cuck to government
bottom right
>cuck to boss
top right
>cumslut
bottom left
>free man
>no gods no masters
>>683886387
You must think you're pretty funny.
>>683886551
funny because its true
Shit so far I'm by far the most liberal of all of you.
>>683886512
> implying I didn't just rip it off>>683883219
But that's what my results would be if it asked the right questions.
>>683886539
Except not having any income or economic freedom.....
>>683886444
funny considering most ancaps are against unions.
Cool
>>683886633
I'm not even from the U.S., so it's just non-sense after all. And Trump wouldn't even truly stand at such position in the spectrum in a test like this.
>>683886539
Bottom right is the closest to anarchist you fool. Bottom left has no freedom of exchange.
Right in the butter zone. If you disagree, you're simply wrong.
i guess
>>683886899
stalin is top left not bottom left.
>>683885456
this test was a couple years old (2013-ish)
Just retook it
>>683887212
Anarchocapitalist. The current understanding of the term “anarchism” only bears political connotations, none of them being economical.
You're right about bottom-left not being the appex of freedom, though. It requires some kind of market regulation (centralized in anarcosocialism, semicentralized in anarcosyndicalism).
>>683887434
how did everyone else get a dot? What the fuck?
>>683887212
>implying ancapistan is freedom to anyone except big business
>>683887564
You saved the wrong picture. Scroll down.
>>683887564
scroll down
did I win?
>>683887748
If you had a business wouldn't you want to be able to do what you wanted with it?
>>683887194
>>683886823
in a true ancap free market a minimum wage is established by the market, not artificially by the government. you're not obligated to pay someone more than their worth. if they feel they aren't being paid enough they'll quit. and the lower corporate taxes allow for an increase in small business, meaning he can find another job that may pay more.
>>683880818
>page 1 of 6
fuck this i'm going to sleep
Anarcho-syndicatists unite! Lots of lefty fags on b... I like it
>>683886099
says the guy who doesn't understand negotiation and economics.
>>683880818
Pretty much the same
>>683887748
Actually, not really. Anarchocapitalism gives the possibility of decentralized businesses growing up even more efficiently. For example those that have no bosses or committees, but are composed only of workers that collectively own the means of production, and, as a result, have the possibility of (usually) making more money than workers of a single-owner business.
>>683888092
>implying there would be negotiation in an ancap society.
>>683886539
No
top left
>Communist
bottom right
>Anarchist
top right
>Fascist
Bottom left
>Socialist
>>683887814
Ah, okay.
>>683888543
It's called unions fagit
>>683888570
>anarchist
>bottom right
You fucks already took libertarian as a name.
Don't fucking take anarchist too.
>>683888393
>collectively owning the means of production
>anarcho-capitalism
Nigga that's communism
>>683888543
>implying ancaps ignore the non aggression principle
negotiation is literally the only option retard
>>683888771
Did you notice I was actually talking about a single business?
Anarchocapitalism has no rules, thus, it gives people the possibility of businesses being formed in whatever way they deem the best, such as in one where there is no single owner. In a free-market, those businesses can flourish more efficiently than they would in a regulated market.
Nigga, businesses are not nations.
>>683888691
ancaps are anti-union.
https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Amises.org%20labor%20unions
look how much they love unions!
>>683886000
>>683888570
wrong, bottom left is libertarian socialist which is also known as anarchist
bottom right is anti-regulation capitalist. despite the fact that people in the US call it 'libertarian' and 'anarcho-capitalist' that area is not historically related to anarchist or socialist libertarian philosophy or movements.
if you don't know shit about anarchist history and theory then you should fuck right off
>no gods no masters
>>683888393
well who started the business then. it didn't just pop out of nowhere for everyone to hold hands and share in. that implies the capital ownership was redistributed to the workers. thats literally the opposite of anarchocapitalism mate
/pol/'s finest here
>>683888393
What you are describing comes straight from The Communist Manifesto.
>683888888
libertarian socialist here
>>683889337
Read this
>>683889221
Yes, there are businesses that are started solely by workers, and they can socialize the means of production if they so desire in anarchocapitalism. That does not change the political system of an anarchocapitalist nation.
>>683886099
lol, didnt even go to econ 101
>>683889369
Read this:
>>683889221
>>683889583
>>683889346
trump is a cuck
>>683889240
yeah they dont like unions because they take power away from job creators and deinsensitive job creation. but people are still free to form them. at the same time, in a free market, those people can be fired and replaced with workers that are less of a threat to profit.
>>683888856
funny. usually i hear that if they don't like their job, then they should just fuck off and find a better job.
it also doesn't help that ancaps are more anti-union than neocons.
The test is too bourgeois for me. Its questions are predicated on an ideology and system which is antithetical to my values and principles, and moreover provides a false choice which lacks sufficient nuance to meaningfully gauge radical views.
Nothing witty to say.
>>683889329
TIL I'm an anarchist. WTF?
>>683889774
>government shouldn't exist
>but it should give me money anyways
>>683889590
>not realising that there is more than one school of economics
>>683888691
Union or gtfo. I am the son of a laborer and my dad was at one time a business agent for an original hid carrying local
>>683889664
>You tried
You failed
>>683889583
that's good point, and they are still free to, but I can't see that conceivably happening. what happens is the founding members tend to split up the shares and form a board. it's all well and good if they then want to have part ownership with their employees (like Apple used to do on a small scale) but it's fiscally impractical. some people just plainly work harder than others or have more important jobs, and they should be paid accordingly.
>>683890060
>dat run-on sentence
>>683887564
>>683889774
subhuman detected
![chart[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/DYtj9fi.png "chart[1].png")
what in the actual...
how accurate is this?
>>683889659
Read the Communist Manifesto. That's almost a word-for-word quote.
>>683889690
you're not free to form them when you get immediately fired for forming or joining one.
already the case in my state.
>>683889760
quitting your job, or at the very least threatening to is a form of negotiation. if you feel you aren't being paid enough for your work, you can ask for a raise and threaten to quit if you dont get one. if you quit and can't get paid more than you were, then you were wrong about not being paid enough for your job.
>>683886926
Damn son we close
>>683889922
Nice triple dubs
Moderates ftw
>>683882133
Good luck trying to find a government like that
>>683890102
It's practical in a small scale, I have some notes about this here. I got to this conclusion testing if Marx's theory would work better in an entire market (through centralization of regulation, be it of single sectors or at a federal level) or in a single business inside a free market (completely decentralized regulation).
The results tend to be clear, single-owner businesses can get bigger, but the workers in it can only have fixed salaries. Socialized business will have workers that tend to profit more than workers of single-owner businesses, but their businesses cannot grow as big without making a very complex system.
Still, socialized business would suffer in a regulated market. Even Marx's ideas work better in a free market.
>>683890342
you make it sound so easy.
>>683883018
ayyyyy
>>683890318
that doesn't mean you're not free to. if you value your job you won't, but you are absolutely free to form a union, no one is going to stop you. forming a union and firing someone are both forms of negotiation, and neither should be taken away if freedom is a goal.
Huh. Not what I expected.
>>683883162
That's the beauty of capitalism friendo
>>683887212
mfw capitalism and anarchism are non sarcastically used together
>>683890578
it's pretty simple, it just has really big consequences if you're wrong.
and it only works in an actual free market which doesn't exist at the moment.
>>683886539
XDDDDDD
Honestly not surprised
>>683887497
Got you fam
>>683890557
don't get me wrong, I think it's great if people want to do that, I just watched a documentary on social business.
if the owner is willing to put people before profit than more power to him. I don't really see that happening often by itself though.
>>683887549
idk what current understanding you're talking about, but anarchism and capitalism are irreconcilable.
>>683888543
>literally run by negotiation
>>683889774
kek
This seems to be a common theme.
>>683880818
>>683890808
Individualist Anarchism
>>683891043
What you used to call anarchism (the ideology way before Marx) is now called anarchosyndicalism, or anarchosocialism. It truly depends on what you mean by it. The same thing happened for the word “communism”.
Anarchism is used only when someone's referring to political freedoms. That's why “anarchocapitalism” is a thing. It advocates for total rights of self-determination (anarchism), and zero market regulation (capitalism).
R8 me
>>683889995
I don't believe that money should exist either.
>>683890252
I don't particularly care about your opinion. You're probably either a delusional class cuckold or a fascist, given the /pol/-esque tendency of this board, so your assessment of my views have exactly no value to me.
>>683891785
Kek. Kill yourself Ahmed Sundquist
I'm surprised how similar I am to a lot if you.
>>683891785
lmao get over your superiority complex nigga
>>683890845
really big consequences for me. very little consequences for him.
how equitable.
>>683880818
Have done this before. Center, 2nd row from top
>>683891016
Mostly I also don't see it happening, I don't find it to be a better alternative for a business as a whole. However, for teenage socialists that always see the “1%” as a big issue, it is a good way of exposing how even their own model would work better in a market with decentralized regulation.
This is even what I had inbetween my notes, I don't remember where I've read this before:
“... [Marx] thinks workers should receive [salaries based] exactly on what they've produced, despite the fact they don't own the machines and would not produce nearly as much when working on their own (if they would, they'd probably be working on their own already).”
>>683886539
>implying the bottom left aren't the biggest cucks of all
>>683891957
>I lack a valid rebuttal, so I will tacitly accuse you of being Muslim, since I consider that an insult according to my xenophobic and cryptofascistic worldview.
Go project elsewhere, manchild.
>>683892060
>Having an opinion and responding to criticisms demonstrates a superiority complex.
>>683890252
>subhumans support freedom
Troglodyte detected.
>>683891785
>>683892184
equity is subjective. while the outcome is worse for you, you both acted within your rights. he owns the capital so obviously he stands to have more negotiating power.
>>683892820
>The test is too bourgeois for me. Its questions are predicated on an ideology and system which is antithetical to my values and principles, and moreover provides a false choice which lacks sufficient nuance to meaningfully gauge radical views.
as if you don't get off to the little blankness in your acquaintances' eyes when you say shit like that. it makes you feel good to use unnecessary specific vernacular.
>>683893096
>irrelevant
You're in the wrong thread.
>zero real world application
Categorically false. Every political and economic theory I support is accompanied by a set of feasible praxes which can achieve them.
>>683893465
So I shouldn't be as clear and specific as I can be when expressing myself?
>>683892820
This is 4chan m8, go back to le ddit if you don't know the lingo.
>>683893157
The employer "owns" the capital only because he stole the profits of someone else's labor. Then he uses the stolen capital to accumulate even more leverage over the people he steals from.
If you sat down and tried to come up with a more corrupt system you would have some difficulty. But then again, Capitalism is the belief that sociopaths doing sociopathic things will somehow magically work out for the benefit of everyone.
>not being blue
>why live
>>683891582
3/10; would cuck with black lives matter
>>683893718
clear and specific is entirely subjective. you should use the most specific word the situation permits so as to be understood as completely as possible. why the fuck would you ever need to use the word cryptofascistic in the real world. I really hope you don't talk like that in real life.
>>683893718
>So I shouldn't be as clear and specific as I can be when expressing myself?
Especially when talking to retards like that guy.
>>683893157
>equity is subjective
thats the whole point. ancaps see it as freedom that they're allowed to treat their workers like squandered trash. it's certainly not freedom for the worker. and if he makes a suggestion that he should be paid more, he loses the source of his already austere livelihood.
>>683889664
>>683882133
mah nigga
>>683893946
jesus, this shit could literally be right out of the communist manifesto. if he's really "stealing" the results of someone else's labour why don't they fuck off and do that labour for themselves because they're so self-sufficient.
freedom is far more important than outcomes that work for the benefit of everyone in my opinion. obviously I'm not going to change yours, this comes down to values. I'd much rather be free and poor than in the USSR where everyone gets to be lower-middle class except for the guys who control it.
>>683894410
>being that wrong
>>683894617
>I'd much rather be free and poor
you've never been poor in your life.
>People with serious inheritable disabilities should not be allowed to reproduce.
Weow
>>683894182
equity
>the quality of being fair and impartial.
are you suggesting that the employer has any obligation to keep anyone on that is detrimental to their profit? freedom is freedom regardless of whether or not it results in someone being out of a job. I don't agree with it morally, but I don't pretend that my morals should affect anyone else.
>>683894788
I work a minimum wage job and have 2 roommates faggot. don't bring your identity politics bullshit in here.
>>683894812
They shouldn't though tbh.
was confused with a question about ability ti naturally feel homosexual, because i don't know what happens in minds of others xD
>>683880818
Here ya go, OP. Really proud of this, actually.
>>683894780
At least they're finally admitting it
>>683895140
you sure? do you just pontificate shit that works to your detriment for the fun of it?
Expected
>>683895758
>admitting it
>the thing that is incorrectly defined
What?
What
Does
This
Mean
?
About what I expected
>>683896015
>implying that my values would change if my social status was different
you should try having some values sometime mate, but what do I know. I'm a white male and it's CURRENT YEAR.
>>683881405
This guy gets it. I'm slowly seeing all of you are hard left and I'm hard right. Which makes me question why I bother coming here.
does this mean I'm a commie
>>683896199
That was the joke
me too
Economic Left/Right: -4.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.92
Bottom left master race checking in.
the perfect spot
>>683880818
The mods should just ban everyone in the green for being underage.
>>683897561
purple too
Right there with Gandhi.
I'm not american, and I didn't follow the election that much, but I would have probably voted for Bernie.
>>683895140
You're working a minimum wage job and you're sitting here defending the people who are most screwing you over. That's legit sad, bro. It's economic Stockholm Syndrome. I don't know how you got so indoctrinated but I hope you get out of it.
>>683897548
Who else is around this area and a Trump supporter?
>>683880818
as expected
>>683880818
Tell me what this means /b/.
>>683897798
>>683897725
There's plenty of old ass dudes who are right wing libertarians especially in rural areas.
top left red
> greens are millennials
>>683880818
im too lazy to take that test.
>>683897798
I fucking stock shelves dude. Literally anyone can do that. I understand that I'm not going to be paid more than my job is worth and I don't expect to.
When I finish my degree I'll be able to work in a job that has higher value and be paid more. You're like those Bernie supporters telling blacks they're voting "against their interests". I have my vales, and they're unaffected by something as superficial as how much money I make.
>>683880818
Pretty close OP
>>683882599
muh nigga
![chart[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/UgESw3M.png "chart[1].png")
the only correct result
>>683898379
and somehow an executive higher up who does less than you do gets paid more. and you don't question it.
doesn't /pol/ call people like you cucks?
Praise the red
>>683897115
are there any queers in the theater tonight?
put em up against the wall
>>683898132
it means you're smarter and a better person than a lot of the people in this thread
>>683896183
That you, Hitler?
Progressive
>>683899177
>paranoid, under-educated, probably lives below the Mason-Dixon
>>683899300
> does less than you
> runs the fucking company
>>683900161
> insinuating
How did I do?
>>683899746
I thought I'd be further right and higher up to be honest.
>>683899746
need a hand stroking off that ego?
>>683897561
Not everyone here is a /pol/ack
I'm genuinely shocked.... considering people who know me call me a hardass or a war monger.....
