You don't ever find happiness b, you can get a super hot cutie and after you have sex with her 45 times she will bore you to death and then proceed to nag you about everything and demand to be proposed to so she can anchor herself to your wealth. You might not realize it, but your independence is the only way to squeeze even a drop of happiness out of your life. Even pic related will eventually get boring.
>>768775078
I feel sorry for your mother
>>768775078
Ok now post the other pic of her outside bending towards the camera.
>>768775078
>sex is boring
>romance is boring
>people are boring
And that's precisely why I am exceedingly good at my job and only have pets as companions.
>>768775592
The fuck is wrong with you? Stop living such a boring life
>>768775078
This.
Anyone that disagrees with this has no experience with women or is living in a self-perpetuated dreamland brought on by fear of being alone or whatever.
All you have to do is look at the hotties you wanted to bang in school 10-20 years later and breeze through their social media to see what you have to look forward to when you eventually managed to bag yourself some hotness.
Once they hit 20, that's it, they hit the wall in slowmo but with every single year it's more and more noticable, not just in their looks either but their behaviour, they go more off the rails, more demanding. They offer less but demand more, they're desperate, they hate themselves, they hate men, they hate you, they hate they they need you. I could go on and on and on.
Fuck that respect women meme, should've been reject women because women really do age like milk, if you don't get your fill ASAP it gets rotten and either you get sick from drinking it or you're forced to do the right thing and throw it out.
>>768775763
I hate how true this is.
>>768775737
Admittedly, getting screwed over by females isn't exactly boring, but I prefer to focus on the good things in life. And women aren't one of them in my experience.
>>768775763
Stop masturbating and stop blaming others for your horrid life.
>>768775763
>>768775858
Same fag
>>768775078
Post more of this Latina.
>>768775993
Fag
>>768776138
Lol made you screenshot and reply like a fag
>>768775945
Whatever you have to tell yourself to justify why you are alone.
>>768776209
Well. You're fucking gay. How's that feel?
>>768775957
Kek, the irony is that #1 - I don't masturbate because I don't like giving ANY of my energy to women at all even through pornography, which I think is degenerate and a massive contributing factor to why women are the way they are today. And #2 my life was miserable until I gave up women for the most part. The common theme in my life has always been, involved with women in any way = misery. Whether it be flings, one nighters or relationships, they always somehow manage to wreak havoc in my life. Ever since I gave them up unless I'm sure it's 100% on my terms (which I know won't last so I get outta there ASAP), I've been content as fuck. But you wouldn't know anything about this because you're still addicted to female validation and projecting your own insecurities onto other men to make yourself feel better, thus being completely unaware of your own predicament in relation to this topic.
>>768776410
I fuck girls regularly :D
Go back to redit
>>768776302
Believe it or not, I feel better when I'm alone, much better. I'm honestly not making speeches here, whenever some woman tried to get closer to me I instantly felt trapped and did everything I could to get away. (Didn't happen too often, but still...)
This said, I am a volcel, not an incel. (Again, believe it or not.)
A woman will not make you happy. You have to be happy by yourself, alone, and then a good woman will notice that, one that is also happy be herself, and you could be happy together by not making the relationship the sole focus of your happiness
>>768776519
Fedora as fuck.
>>768775172
Why?
>>768776611
Dubs of truth
>>768776546
I've had sex before too. With a girl. With a hundred girls.They were all hot. And had huge boobs. They were also incredibly real.
It's like when I went to McDonald's to get a Filet-O-Fish combo with a bacon cheeseburger on the side. I was eating it in my vehicle in the parking lot and listening to an audio book when I glanced up and saw the McDonald's worker I ordered from was outside having a cigarette.
She waved at me and I nodded and had to wait 7 minutes before she went back inside and I could eat in comfort again. I don't think that employees should be bothering or even trying to socialize with customers outside of the McDonald's restaurant or drive through, but that is another story.
I went to McDonald's for dinner tonight and got a McChicken combo with a bacon cheeseburger on the side. As I was driving to the second window the same girl was still working. She was acting somewhat obsequious and attempting small talk when she asked, 'why don't you come eat inside instead of in the parking lot where it is cold'.
That really bothered me for many reasons. First of all, I don't want my routine or actions to be tracked by a fast food employee. Secondly, she should not try to tell me how I should live my life. I do not want to eat inside because I find it less comfortable and would much rather be inside my vehicle listening to an audiobook and enjoying myself and my privacy.
Overall, I think it was very unprofessional to bring this up. I should have a clean slate with each drive through visit, not have to get the third degree because I committed some sort of faux pas. Which I don't think I did, because I often see people eating in fast food parking lots. How does she know I am not busy going to work or somewhere in a rush?
>>768776709
Lol
>>768775763
Idk, I just hit 30 and have it pretty good. I've had more sexual partners in the last year than most of my life because I focused on improving myself and didn't take shit from any women.
If I don't find them interesting on a personal level I don't even consider them sexually. I've been banging hot, successful women (doctors, nurses, business women) and since I'm not a slave to my penis I filtered them out from all of the ridiculousness that you're talking about.
I suppose it helps that I have been successful myself, albeit in different ways. I'm in the best shape of my life, and have been traveling Central America for the last 7 months. I have stories that women love and (at least from their perspective) live my life how I want. They think I'm brave because my method of travel is unique (that I won't reveal because I want to remain anonymous).
If that shit is in your life it is because you've allowed it into your life. Make yourself better and you'll attract better women. Don't be a slave to your dick and fuck every girl that shows interest in you. If you're shallow you'll attract shallow partners. Be an interesting person and interesting people will be attracted to you.
The most important trait I look for in a woman is kindness. If she isn't kind she can fuck right off. And I mean kind to everyone. If I sense any meanspiritedness at all, I just leave.
I felt like you a few years ago. I made myself a better person. To quote a wise man, "Stop looking for the right one and become the right one."
>>768776717
That pasta
>>768776568
This.
I have so many hobbies and interests, and so many things I want to achieve. Everytime a woman's entered my life they've taken away from those things.
Women don't like you having interests or anything unless it serves their interests, as in, makes you money so you can spend that money on them. That's why they go after gaming and stuff so much, shaming gamers / nerds and what not. Because every man who uses his time how he wants to is a potential monetary loss to a female, and they have in group preference so they see every MAN-ifestation of this as a potential threat to all of them.
If you get into a relationship, say goodbye to all of your interests, hobbies and whatever else. The second you get into one you are your female's slave if you even hope to stay with her for a time. Especially with the state's overbearing role in relationships now due to the one-sidedness in courts.
Fuck bitches, get money. If you want a kid, just get a random whore pregnant and pay for the kid but don't get in a relationship with her so you don't have to pay alimony or anything like that. And certainly don't move in with her, just don't be an asshole dad of convenience.
>>768776717
Please tell me this is copypasta.
If not you need to talk to someone about this.
>>768776568
Just stop putting pussy on a pedestal and avoid the fake bitches and you'll be ok.
>>768776901
I'm a girl btw
>>768775078
>sex is boring
>romance is boring
>people are boring
I can see why she's nagging you. You don't give a fuck about anything except money, and you assume she does too.
>>768776993
gril*
>>768776821
I am, however, much less radical than this anon. I don't think poorly of women in general, and I even have a few remote friends, most of them female. But that is where I draw the line. My personal life is only shared by me, my pets and my plants.
As far as sex is concerned, I've had sexual experiences earlier in life, and I'm truly and honestly thought with that. I'm perfectly fine without sex, and if all else fails I still have a healthy right hand.
>>768775078
Start fucking her throat.
>>768775763
>they offer less yet demand more
Or maybe they're expecting you to grow up, and you want to still act like a fucking child. The same way you always have.
>women really do age like milk
I can see why you're an incel.
Nah, OP. Old fag here. My wife is hot. Married 7 years. Fucked her thousands of times and not bored at all. She energetic and fun and likes the same hobbies that I like too. Just marry someone compatible and you’ll have a friend for life. Sure, there’s not the lust you have early on, but there are other pros that outway the cons.
so OP, here's the thing: you're describing your lack of social depth and your lack of humanity
mostly everything you've said is accurate - people age physically, it's easy to get bored of fucking a 10/10, people's behavior and conversation changes as they spend more time together, children take attention away from relationships, child birth often partially destroys a womans body and self-image, people get complacent about having each other around
it's all true, and yet humanity is largely organised around this
it's a mystery to you - you've got money, you've got pets that give you attention because they want food or have co-evolved with us to be unconditionally and retardedly friendly, you can have sex with hot young women and you can change them out for new ones whenever you feel like it because you've got wealth, maybe looks and you know the game
that's great, but don't try and persuade yourself that there is no other way and that other people aren't happy with their setup warts and all
relationships often exist without sex at all, it's about a connection you've built often over decades, often based on an initial rush and high of physical sex/excitement, growing together through life stages, bonding over joy, bonding over misery, bonding over terror, bonding over disapointments, bonding over betrayal and forgiveness
is this really so alien?
>>768775078
Sounds like you're just bitter.
>>768776903
>stop putting pussy on a pedestal
Trust me, I never did and I do not today.
>>768775078
Wow, that's pretty accurate. I can relate to this.
The only men who complain about women demanding more of them are the men who refuse to grow the fuck up. You're 20something, it's time to start acting like an adult. Instead of a grown manchild who plays video games and shitposts at strangers on the internet for fun.
What a catch you are.
What a piece of shit she is for not being sexually attracted to a fat loser with no ambitions in life.
Poor you.
>>768776756
I also motorbike s. America. You aren't special "anon"
>>768777148
So then go out and find a good girl.
>>768777192
>Man up.
You sound like one of the reasons for which MGTOW exists.
>>768777192
Found the salty, sand-filled vagina bitch
>>768777228
But I don't want to. What's so difficult to comprehend here?
>>768776756
Women are all the same aside from appearance, mannerism and the social mask they were. They literally all have the same personality aside from their self-customisation they use to get what they specifically want.
As for the rest of what you said, I feel you, I'm going down the same road myself, it's a cumulative process. I was just fed a shit ton of lies for the majority of my life as the majority of my peers have been women. Was raised solely by women for example which completely destroyed me for years as they tried to mould me into what they thought the perfect man should be, when we all know that what they think is the perfect man isn't what they actually want.
Glad to hear you're on the right track though bro!
>>768777192
REEE ROAST E
>>768777306
Struck a nerve, did i? How quaint.
>>768777348
So you just jack off?
>>768777433
No, but I bet you're fat :D
>>768777465
Only very occasionally. You become quieter over the years, you know.
>>768777144
Dubs of truth
OP is a faggot
>>768777371
They aren't all women. You're blaming it all on the women. There's a difference.
That girl you're pining over?
Someone, somewhere has been or is fed up with her shit.
You can do so much without someone sucking your dick. The urge to fuck can be sated, you just need to change your monogamous sensibilities. You don't need to marry the girl you fuck.
>>768777510
I just can't understand this. I'm 35
>>768777506
is this seriously the best you could come up with? 1/10 try harder. This was embarrassing.
>>768777602
I'm 45 now, but sex was never very important to me.
>>768777088
I have lots of female acquaintances who I get on with extremely well, but only two I consider friends because I've known them for a long period of time and they've never given me any bullshit to deal with. But then again I don't think men and women can be friends so I say friends very loosely. They've tried a few times but they respect me and back down when I tell them to so we have a good dynamic between us.
>>768777115
Define "grow up"? I mean, you do realise that women literally don't mature past the age of 16-18? They seem to, but it's a lie, they just hide their immaturity better with age because they have to due to not being as fertile or youthful. They get a free pussy pass when they're 16-20 because that pussy is still relatively fresh but beyond 20 it's well-used and drawing to the end of its "career", and they know this so they pretend to be more mature than they are.
Also, women tend to despise "mature" men unless they're looking for a meal ticket that's reliable. They love unpredictable "immature" men who do whatever they want and are arrogant as fuck about it, if you don't know this, I think it's more likely that you're the incel because you have no experience with women evidently.
>>768777604
You know I'm right.
I am positive you are overweight. Why deny it?
>>768775078
Whatever gets you through the day fag. Thanks for sharing. How old are you? How did you come to this conclusion?
>>768777192
It's literally true though.
The only things women have to offer are youth and fertility. So they're at their peak of usefulness and value at around 18, beyond that their value drops.
But as they get older, women demand more and more, and even go as far as to actively preach on social media about "knowing one's worth" demanding the absolute world from men for pussy that's literally been through a world of dick, that's running out of eggs and has had at least a dozen STDs, not to mention the psychological damage from all the sexual partners and failed relationships.
>>768777638
I just befriend people as they come along, and sooner or later people go their own way again and cease to be friends. I just try to stay open and friendly and polite and true to myself, going with the flow.
>>768777142
> is this really so alien?
To prepubescent virgins, yes. It is. None of these faggots have ever been in a long term relationship. They think it's supposed to look like a romcom 24/7 365 days a year. or she's "boring".
>>768777371
>women are all the same
Please read this so you can ve more logical next time
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faulty_generalization
Doesn't even deserve Yous at this point. Git gud faggot.
>I have so many hobbies and interests, and so many things I want to achieve
Said by every loser trying to pull themselves up in the world, every single time
What exactly are your hobbies? Do you work? Have friends and family you keep in contact with?
I have maybe 2 activities I'd regard as hobbies and I don't get enough time on either of them. I live 10 mins from my work and do a standard 9-5 work week, yet I still don't have enough time.
I've never met a successful person who seriously had a dozen hobbies; meaning you do it at least 1-4 times per month.
>>768776821
I wrote this:
>>768777907
..but forgot to quote you, so here ya go
>>768777632
Hey whatever makes you happy but finding someone that shares the same fucked up humor as you and more is incredibly satisfying. Just don't write it off...
>>768777707
oh my god. you suspect shes a woman yet haven't demanded tits. shes right. this was embarrassing for you.
>>768777604
Lol you fat bitch
>>768775172
>Mothers are always good, and pure
>letting a human fall out of you makes you a good person
>>768777907
I have a 9/80 work schedule living 4 miles from work and I
Weightlift 3 times a week
Play guitar
Build and fly drone quadcopters
Cook all my own meals for weightlifting
Socialize with friends about two weekends a month
>>768778024
You must not understand the meaning of "embarrassing"
>>768778000
Hey, maybe my outlook on these things will change in the future. I may be wrong. (I've been wrong before.) Reality is still the best show in town and you never know what she holds in store for you. So, yeah.
Cheers, m8.
>>768777604
>>768778024
Samefag
>>768777947
what're you talking about, I wrote
>>768776821
^ that
>>768778153
Salud.
>>768777907
>I've never met a successful person who seriously had a dozen hobbies; meaning you do it at least 1-4 times per month.
Then you have never met an engineer or a physicist. Every one of my friends in both of those fields are highly successful and have way too many hobbies that they specifically dedicate time to.
>>768778230
Yeah, and in response to it I wrote this:
>>768777907
But you need women to have children, and children are the single most rewarding pursuit you will ever engage in
Seriously, this rock-n-roll idea that being single and childless whilst trying to fuck random women is such juvenile.
Watching your baby learn to talk, seeing them learn about the world from absolute scratch and you being the one to guide them... that stuff is worth a thousand one night stands or some fucking kiteboarding.
>>768778532
Fuck having children
>>768778532
Not that I'm with any of these jaded men when it comes to women, but having children is among the worst things people could be doing right now if you account for the population of the world.
>>768775078
This thread is fag, but that girl is hot af
>>768778330
ah, my bad, multitasking.
>>768777907
so basically everyone that has hobbies, interests and aspirations is a loser that will never actually achieve anything? nice logic there m8.
I'm self employed, have my own clothing design business which I run from home. I have plenty of free time to game, I research allsorts of different things, mainly psychology and the occult though which I do while I'ma hustlin. I read a hell of a lot, I work out, I travel too when business doesn't require my full attention.
I think your problem lies within your standard 9-5 week, they're designed to keep you at your least productive capacity possible so you don't overachieve in general in life. self-employment is the way forward as you can construct your own system however it works for you, without the grueling repetition and what not.
>>768778532
growing a useless idiot by doing something thats been done for 100,000s of years is the most meaningful. stay in your trailer with your fat,ugly wife and 7 kids and we’ll do the meaningful stuff
>>768778290
As a physicist, i can confirm that i exhaust myself with more hobbies than i can handle. You can't turn your brain off sometimes. Even when it's exhausted from going going going.
>>768775592
>sex is boring
>romance is boring
>people are boring
>work is boring
Which is why I'm better at my job than I let my bosses know and I spend most of my time at the office doing whatever the fuck I really want to do.
Yeah, pets are cool I'll give you that.
>>768778657
Yeah maybe you shouldn't
>>768778676
World's population is forecast to level out at ~11bn
>>768778899
"It's been done for 100's of thousands of years therefore it's shit"
"Growing a useless idiot" - depends on your own genetics and that of your mate
I used to think like this until I had a kid, hence I can tell none of you have ever had the experience.
>and we’ll do the meaningful stuff
Sure thing buddy, I'm looking forward to never hearing about any of the srsly meaningful shit you're up to
>>768778959
This. I can't not be productive, I have to be doing something all of the time from the second I wake 'till the second I drop of a night. It's like Jordan Peterson said, there are some men out there who will just work an insane amount of time and be insanely productive because they have some weird driving force that pushes them to do so, and I happen to be one of those people. The way I see my hobbies is like this, they're not really hobbies, not even gaming, it's all productive as it all teaches me something or gives me new skills, like even with gaming it helps me become more adept at on-the-fly-quick-thinking, organisational skills and helps with my reaction time, also helps me with my ability to handle sudden, drastically "up in the air" situations. And co-op games help me learn how to network with others and pitch ideas to people I'd like to take on projects with. How to be political with them and draw them in and what not, convince them to take risks etc.
>>768778959
Whilst I applaud you, there's something to be said for doing nothing at times.
>>768779300
Bro. You're on 4chan.
>>768775078
Good girls are out there OP, don't give up.
I knew my GF was the one when she sent me a Dolan meme.....
>>768779281
Enjoying your soy much?
>>768779420
Ugh God don't i know it. It took me years to figure that one out but i just can't stop myself. Feels like I'm constantly drinking red bulls, every moment of every day. The thoughts aren't BETTER per say. Just happening too fast. Bet i need meds at this point.
>>768779300
Exactly! It's all some kind of training exercise, and you can never learn enough skills somehow. Wish i knew how to switch it off. Living at this pace is exhausting.
>>768779580
>implying I can't multitask
>>768779063
I'm work as a freelancer and I earn good money doing it. I mean, really serious amounts.
But I had to travel a long, hard road to get there, working menial day jobs, kissing asses and the like. And let me tell you this, I'm not going to let any romance or yearning ruin that. I'd rather live as a hermit and die cursing myself on my deathbed than getting tangled up in some social or romantic bollocks I can't deal with.
>>768779791
I don't. It's a gift because you see value in everything and you have so much to do that it makes life exciting as fuck. The only sad thing about it is, you will never get to do everything you want.
>>768779888
yeeeeeeee boy check my digits
>>768779888
>witnessed
In a few years, you'll see how tiring this gets. Also took me years to figure out that there is such a thing as too much information for your brain to handle. It'll keep the relevant material, and forget how to respool a fishing line. It'll even forget the book you read on how to do it too. Need a vacation from myself at this point.
>>768777209
Can you elaborate on your method, I've been thinking of doing the same.
>>768780303
You sound like you might genuinely be on the autistic spectrum mate. I am and I'm like an informational sponge. I suck up information constantly without even meaning to and it overloads me sometimes. Used to have meltdowns or whatever after a while but I don't anymore. My social environment is 100% controlled for efficiency and non-over-saturation and I'm always doing things like listening to certain music at certain times or drinking a beer at a certain time to dull my senses a bit and overlap the incoming info, that all helps. Sometimes it's not enough but most of the time it is and I'm content as fuck. Whenever it's not I just take a time out, sleep a lot for a couple of days, still being productive but not as much, and I just kinda zone out and game mostly 'till I'm in top form again.
>>768777785
I've been in a 5 year relationship, a 3 year and a 2 year. It gets boring no matter what.
>>768780600
Have fun being kidnapped like a fag
>>768777209
Not motorbike. I see dozens of you guys though.
>>768780600
Buy a motorcycle and ride. It takes about 3 months from Alaska -> Argentina if you plan well.
There are a ton of guides and personal accounts on this. I thought about doing it myself, but I wanted a longer trip so I did something different.
OP. Pic related.
>>768777142
I feel like a sociopath a lot of the time because I feel like there's a ceiling to how much I love my girlfriend. Especially considering how much she says she loves me. I care about her, and on paper what else am I looking for? I'm just bored and don't feel that deep love. Not even sure I understand it at this point. Am I just fucked?
>>768780816
...proving my point that it's NOT a romcom 24/7 365 days a year.
I've been engaged to my fiance for a year, and we dated for 5 before he proposed. I get it.
>>768781543
[Not that guy]
Sounds like you have anhedonia.
>>768781543
I've felt that in every relationship I've ever had. I enjoy their company but other than that I'm just kinda present. I dont get these huge butterflies at the thought of seeing them
>>768781543
This thread needs to Google schizoid personality disorder and then see a professional to get diagnosed. If you feel guilt whatsoever, you're not a sociopath or a psychopath.
>>768781631
Even if enrolling was fine early on? Just that thing in the OP about not intensifying after 45 times with the same person? Everything else is fine, I think.
>>768781705
He never once mentions guilt. Just that his feelings towards his gf is significantly less than what she feels towards him
>>768781543
>i feel
You're not.
>>768781718
Well anhedonia is a symptom of an underlying condition. Perhaps you have some depressive triggers in a relationship that rob you of pleasure from a woman.
>>768781705
I feel guilt, only worry is from relationship. I was hurt before when I let my emotions grow over time normally, but since then, I've never been able to let myself get there anymore. Starting to think it was a fluke.
>>768781798
You don't get it. Sociopaths don't "feel" anything. Even a diminished sense of love for someone. It's offensive to those with actual personality disorders to claim that you "feel" like one. We don't "feel" anything. That's why we say "i feel dead inside". We mean it literally.
>>768781951
Isn't that a psychopath? I said socio for a reason
>>768781951
You're misinterpreting when we say "we feel". We're saying it in a way to say that's how we're perceiving the situation
>>768781631
>>768781702
It's called being male. Love is a lie, something we're ideologically fed by society to attach us to women and tie us down so we don't all individually become successful, because if we're all successful there's no need for government. Because successful men are leaders, and government only exists because of a lack of true communal and familial leadership. Love also drains men's emotional and mental resources, distracting them from higher ideals. It makes them focus on a very specific function within life, the connection between man and wife, essentially limiting the energy available to all other things.
Women say romance is a lie perpetuated by men to deceive women into having sex with them, but it's not, it's a lie perpetuated by the system to deceive men into believing the highest ideal is the love of a woman and into believing that ideal is very much achievable if they keep chasing it. That one day, even if it's on their dying day, eventually the'll find their one true love.
"Real" men, dare I say it, focus on a higher ideal, something they can do to better society at large or at least their community. Women come secondary to that, children being equal to women and of secondary concern when compared to social cohesion and the primary higher ideals than self-satisfaction through relationships.
>>768778899
the H-bomb has been dropped
>>768781848
That may be more or less linked to past stuff. I'm too logical a lot of the time, so maybe I just bullied myself into not anymore being able to feel love enough to get hurt by its absence again. Sucks. Especially since my gf doesn't deserve that.
>>768782239
Nah.
>>768782355
Go see a therapist, or a councilor, anon.
>>768782358
Nice counter-arguement m8.
>>768782216
"Psychopath" is generally used to describe someone in the dark triad spectrum. This includes sociopathy (american psycho), avoidant personality disorder (hannibal lecter), and the schizophrenic spectrum. I am schizoid, for example. Technically, you could call me a psychopath but it wouldn't be a medically accurate term.
>>768782216
Sorry. As you can see, i got my replies messed up. I see though. Misunderstandings are common.
>>768782464
Wasn't trying to, you can't reason with people who hold that tightly to their beliefs. That's all the whole post was: a belief. So it's best for me to say I disbelieve and shall carry on.
>>768782464
Not him, but you literally just said that helping your community out is better for you as a person than making exciting love to a girl, perhaps, for the first time.
Literally the definition of being a loser.
>>768782540
Nigga the dark triad is Psychopathy, Machiavellianism, and Narcissism.
>>768781866
I was cheated on in two serious relationships back to back. I dated both of them for 2 years, and one of them cheated on me with a close friend. It was incredibly damaging to my ability to have an adult relationship. I've only in the last year been able to start really recovering and it is because I've found a girl who is willing to work with me and care for me. Finding the root of my problems was a big hurdle and I've started to be able to trust this girl. I still get anxiety pretty often, but I just tell her when I have these negative feelings and she reassures me.
But, I guess I should stress it wasn't solely this girl that has made me feel better. I started working on improving myself. Exercising, being honest with people while still being polite, and finding something I want to do and pursuing it.
Once I got those things in order I found myself with renewed confidence. This helped alleviate some anxiety.
If you'd like to talk at any time I can give you an anonymous way to contact me and we can go from there. My life has improved so much lately. I hate to think of anyone, even an internet stranger, suffering the same way I did.
>>768775078
don't have your happines depend on a person
>>768782943
This all the way, OP's life sucks because he can't make himself happy, not because
>da wimminz is bad
>>768783037
No one can make anyone else happy. Happiness comes from being satisfied with yourself.
>>768782608
There was really no point in you responding at all then was there?
>>768782624
Of course a high ideal such as service to community is a better ideal than chasing sex or a "love" relationship. This is the problem with the world today. The majority chase individual satisfaction rather than communal benefit.
The irony is that the highest chance you have of every finding "real" love based on true values, principles and morality, is through working for a higher ideal yourself, leading by example and others doing the same thing. You can't love someone, be in love with someone, or be loved by someone who doesn't have a higher ideal than self-satisfaction, which is all 99.9% of relationships are about, and all sex outside of relationships.
So if you want to "make exciting love to a girl" instead of just fucking a random whore, then fight for a higher ideal, encourage others to do the same, encourage them to avoid destructive, toxic women that open their legs outside of long-term relationships and / or marriage and encourage women to refrain from that behaviour for the sake of finding "good" men. Because women follow men, if they think men want whores, they'll be whores, if they think men want virginal, chaste women who value kindness, family and virtue above self-satisfaction, they'll be exactly that.
You are the definition of loser my friend, because you live such a substanceless life that you require sex to fill the void, you can't see anything outside of that, let alone seeing anything of more value.
>>768782919
Careful mate. I was in a similar situation and attracted numerous women who wanted to attach themselves to me because I was vulnerable. It was not for my benefit. It was for theirs. One tried to trap me with a pregnancy, the other wanted me to "open up" so they could use everything I tell them against me and manipulate me into doing their bidding. So yeah, be careful.
>>768783132
Not a point you could see, anyway. The point I saw was to disagree and I did; it has been fulfilled.
>>768782649
.....you mean psychopathy is in the dark triad? Get the fuck out of here. It's almost like that's literally what i just fucking said.
>>768783132
Man, you're broken. I know because I was broken like that before. Striving to be more and being in love with someone are not mutually exclusive. You just have to find someone with similar ideals. I have. It's fantastic.
>>768782919
Appreciate it, anon. Maybe throwaway email? I don't know if I'd actually send anything, though. I feel like that other stuff is in order, and getting those together definitely helped getting over that previous relationship (also cheated on me), but I think part of how I adapted and moved on was saying "Okay, this'll never happen again because your head won't let you make a stupid mistake like letting someone have that much impact on you, love or otherwise." It's especially concerning because it seems like I know the issue, but can't do anything about it. Like I'm hardwired this way now. Worst part is I can't even talk myself out of it. On a level, it makes sense. You can never fully trust someone as much as yourself. Trusted the first girl and look what happened. Seems impossible.
>>768783261
What a pathetic cop-out. Childish too.
"you're wrong and I know you're wrong but I'm not gonna tell you why you're wrong, nuh nuh"
>>768777638
"Grow up" means being a responsible adult that doesn't just think about himself all the time. Eventually the sex gets boring, at least a little bit, because that's just the nature of things. If you do something more than a few dozen times it's going to get routine. But your problem is thinking that's all there is to a relationship. That was never the case.
The main pro to a relationship is having a best friend who you also fuck and live with. Who you support and who supports you in your goals. You aren't going to get that if you're such a psycho you generalize all women as immature people who age like milk. You're just a manchild.
>>768783323
No, you included other disorders that have nothing to do with the dark triad, like the schizophrenic spectrum.
>>768783524
What if your girl wants sex all the time, but you're fine jerking to porn?
>>768777707
Her opinions are as relevant as her vagina.
ITT it's summer time
>>768783333
Checked.
Haha, I've heard that before from many men. "You're broken, I know because I was there but dude I've met this amazing woman and we're in love." - couple of years later (if that), they're back to square one because she either left him or fucked his best friend, tried to trap him via a pregnancy, or some other similar shit. The chances of that being genuine mate, are miniscule. If you're one of the lucky ones then fair play, but I highly doubt it, likelyhood is you're being deceived. Women are chameleons for the most part. They play the part they think will get them the most attention from the male they see potential in. So the likelyhood is that she's just making it up as she goes along to fit into what she thinks your idea of an ideal woman is. I mean, that's literally an instinct they have "what personality do I need to have to secure this man's resources, attention and time."
Remember me if / when it goes tits up anon. And remember, pussy blinds lesser men. If it happens, and I think it will, learn from it.
Also, who isn't broken. This world is broken, therefore all of us are but in different ways. My state of being doesn't negate the things I'm saying.
>>768783256
I hear you, man. The last two were the ones you've described. I spent 2 years working on myself and identifying where I went wrong. This girl is nothing like the other two. I ignored red flags (jealousy, being unkind, selfishness) in the previous relationships. This girl has none of those traits.
She said if we're apart (I travel a lot) she doesn't want me to be lonely, so I can fuck other women, just don't tell her. I don't plan to anyway.
She's legitimately one of the kindest people I know. I can list examples of this, but I'm lazy. Her patience with me and my issues is one, though.
She is utterly selfless. She worked in impoverished nations educating underprivileged children. She's done more charity work than I can possibly remember. She's made enormous life sacrifices to better other people's lives.
The minute I smell anything nefarious it will be addressed. And if corrective action isn't taken I'll be out the door. Good looking out, though. Thanks, dude.
>>768783561
What I did was say those disorders are included in the blanket term "psychopath", which is in the dark triad.
What you did was try to school a mental patient on their own fucking disorder. Incorrectly. Stop yourself.
>>768783409
Incorrect, I just wanted to tell you I disagreed.
That's it. I'm not going to bother arguing it out because you're clearly too convinced by your own beliefs. Challenging them would only make you believe them more.
>>768783323
You're a moron. Schizophrenia is a disorder, it has nothing to do with psychopathy.
>>768783701
I mean I'll be honest, I probably watch too much porn too. But that's really something you should work out with your girl. Sometimes people just have different schedules or just don't want to fuck all the time and its perfectly normal, especially if you've been together for a long time.
But, if you're never having sex because you'd just rather watch porn, that means the porn is replacing your girl. If you aren't careful that will eventually happen, your girl will leave and all you will have is the porn. This goes for anything, like liquor, drugs, or video games too. If you become distant from your girl you will eventually lose her.
>>768783524
I am a responsible adult. I don't just think about myself all of the time. I have lots of purpose and I do a lot of things for a lot of people. So by your own definition I don't need to grow up.
And I never once said or implied I thought a relationship was solely about sex.
However, given the current social, political and legal climate, the majority of them are about sex + money. That's it. There is a distinct lack of responsibility in most people both male and female, a lack of morality and a lack of higher ideals. These are of prime importance for a lasting, meaningful relationship. The simple fact is that women simply do not need to have morals, virtues, higher ideals or anything else of the sort anymore because no matter what happens, they're covered. Men are so debased that they will take almost any pussy on offer to them and all women know this, and even if men walk out they still have the state to take care of them. So women typically don't need to be what we want, they just need to play the part for a time, and that's exactly what they do. And this is derived from biological and psychological survival instincts, their lapse in moral behaviour en masse is a result of them being within a much more comfortable environment and to put it simply, not needing men anymore long-term. So yes, the majority of relationships are about sex + money, nothing more. But they shouldn't be.
>>768781543
>I care about her
That's enough.
>>768783354
Building walls isn't the answer here. Having a low tolerance for negative behavior has been my solution. And sure [email protected]
>>768783723
Schizophrenics are not psychopaths, that's a public misconception. Schizophrenics, on average, do not manipulate people for their own personal gain with no thought to the wider consequences for others. Schizophrenics just have trouble differentiating reality from delusion, it has nothing to do with manipulation.
You sound like a self diagnosed edgelord trying to look cool on the interwebs.
>>768783723
No, what I did was argue semantics because your statement was unclear. You never explicitly said any of the schizo disorders were blanketed under psychopathy, all you did was make it look like those other disorders were in the dark triad.
>>768784150
I think it's just because porn is quicker and less mess than all the work with sex. Something's wrong with me.
>>768783524
What you're talking about is only really viable in a social, political and legal environment whereby women have to be your best friend, your supporter, your lover, your housekeeper or whatever else. Because women are creatures of circumstance more so than men, they follow the dictates of the social and economic environment. If they didn't have so many options because of restrictions within relationship bounds and if the state wasn't willing to cover them, they would play this role more often and for life because they'd have to, but unfortunately, as it is now, they don't have to, so they don't.
And it's not about being a psycho or a manchild. It's pattern recognition. I was raised by women solely, so most of my time in life has been spent around women. Even when I came of age, because of my formative years I gravitated towards women in general for social validation and friendship etc, and as a result have spent a lot more time around them than most men, have had them admit things to me en masse, things they wouldn't even hint at with most men because they feel comfortable around me.
And you know what, the irony is that most women agree with this when I point it out. All women who know me personally and have done for some time admit to it in private instances, but none admit to it publicly and most whom I don't know personally or haven't done for long deny it. It's an inconvenient truth that even women themselves realise privately but deny publicly because of how terrible for them it really is.
>>768783718
I've vetted this chick with her peers and mine. I've been through the scenarios you've mentioned before. I am pretty confident in my ability to recognize them and avoid them. I have low tolerance for negative behavior. I won't stick around if things start sliding that way.
>>768784359
Thanks, anon. You make a good point. Just harder to actually change that on a subconscious level, even if it's healthier. I might email later.
>>768784222
So the fact that you are generalizing all people in a certain gender as being a particular way tells me you need to grow up. Like that's obviously not true dude, there are billions of people on earth. You're trapped in your own head where you've created some kind of ideal woman who doesn't exist. I'm sure you don't even know what "higher ideals" you're talking about. Unless its some racist /pol/ shit, which is another problem entirely.
Part of growing up means realizing your not special and that everyone is mostly doing the best with what they can. You're actually spouting the enlightened by my own intelligence line in 2018.
>>768783719
MATE, what are you doing, that in itself is a red flag. The fucking other women while you're away.
In her mind, emotionally speaking if she's told you that you can fuck other women while away that means she fully intends on fucking other guys too, and she's going to assume you are because she's told you to not tell her, which means she's absolutely guaranteed to do it herself and justify it, but never tell you.
That is one of THE biggest red flags there could possibly be for multiple reasons.
She's likely already fucking somebody else.
No woman in her right mind would be happy with her partner fucking other women, it's as simple as that.
If she gives you a free pass it's because she wants one herself. She wants you to be the fall-guy, the guy she goes to when she has nobody else, and this is likely why she's been so good to you, to get you hooked and make you think she's an angel so you're always around for her, so you're reliable, while she's fucking other dudes on the side.
If she knew you were away a lot beforehand she likely scoped you out and saw this as an opportunity way before you engaged in a relationship.
You've literally been blinded by pussy mate.
>>768784502
You're actually wrong, but you can keep on believing that if it makes you happy. I guess.
>>768784544
You can't rely on peers. Females constantly cover for each other, and men won't rat on women for the most part because if they do it means they get less opportunities for sex because the women will figure out who ratted on them or at least consider possibilities and ostracise those men because it's no loss to them and they secure themselves from being "figured out" in the future.
You're extremely naive mate.
And the irony is that it's actually the ones you don't expect that tend to be the worst. The absolute angels that are perfect in every way. They never show you their true nature until they're either living with you, pregnant, married to you or whatever, as long as they have you locked down, wrapped round their little finger or legally bound to them.
Do not underestimate women.
>>768782239
This is 100% true. Social conditioning puts an emphasis on finding love as the highest paradigm a man can be in. The media you consumed as a kid, the way your mom raised you all serves this. Part of growing up is seeing this first hand and recognizing that the fantasy ideal of love and real love are very different.
The problem is everyone in this thread has a very all or nothing attitude. Either pursue that perfect girl who doesn't exist or give up entirely.
I found that the best way to go about it was to approach relationships extremely casually until the "crushy" feelings I used to associate with dating or picking up girls were mostly gone. Only then could I deemphasize the importance of relationships and do what I wanted to do.
>>768784741
I'm not generalising all people in a certain gender I'm saying the absolute majority is the same because of the current social, political and legal climate. If you can't see the relationship between that climate and the state of human behaviour in general then there's no hope for you.
>>768784861
Top notch counter-arguement.
>>768784815
I travel for months or years at a time. We're both adults and recognize that physical needs exist. If I'm gone for 14 months doing what I do I don't expect her to sit around languishing for dick. Just like she doesn't expect me to be in Argentina having to turn women down for over a year.
We're not "partners." We care about each other. We comfort and help each other. We fulfill all the roles that partners would in a traditional sense, but since our lives have us both traveling to the far reaches of the Earth from time to time, for vast amounts of time, we have agreed on this.
When both of our lives settle down (2-3 years) we'll reevaluate the situation. There's no one formula for success. This woman has been incredibly tender with me and has helped to heal wounds years old. I trust her, because sometimes in life you have to be vulnerable if you want to experience something beautiful.
>>768777785
>They think it's supposed to look like a romcom 24/7 365 days a year.
Jesus christ so many immature girls think this shit, it's insane.
>>768785081
I don't think she's perfect. Far from it. I see her flaws and have even begun to help her work through them.
I've been in relationships with the women you're describing. I'm in my 30s now. I spent 26-28 improving myself and my ability to interact with people (not just women).
I think I'm doing alright.
>>768777907
It sounds like you're one of those wagecucks I hear about. You need to manage your time better.
>>768785537
You do realise that the more sexual partners a female has, the more her ability to pair bond is impaired? So by allowing her to fuck other people, because she will, you are literally shooting yourself in the foot in the long-term by making it so she's more likely to leave you and monkeybranch to someone else thanks to wonderful hypergamy.
You have absolutely no idea how to handle women mate. And you're caught up in romantic nonsense. All you're gonna do is cause yourself more and more pain long-term I guarantee it, and no, it won't be worth it, I know you'll think it will be, but it won't be.
Sure, she's comforting now, but down the line, eventually, you will hurt more than you have ever hurt before, and it will partly be due to your own failures, as in, not securing her (not that you can really because of the current climate, and she's likely already way too far gone for pairbonding as it is considering women today start at 13).
>>768785729
He probably gets home and either drinks himself to sleep or watches TV eating pizza / plays vidya and tells himself he has no time for anything because he has a full time job lol.
>>768785693
I feel you, honestly. Not trying to be a dick with you or anything, I just know how hard the pull towards women can be and when you've been pulled in far enough it's hard to see the forest for the trees, and everything you've said to be suggests that you're gonna be fucked over eventually and you've convinced yourself it's unlikely at least. Just do yourself a favour and expect it, but don't be paranoid. Expect it, but don't care, just prepare, and then when it happens you can tell her to get fucked and move on quickly.
>>768783074
wut
>>768785537
I'm with the other guy. Your current system is fine (you need to get off your ass and fuck some chicks if she's giving you the pass)
But do NOT think you're going to spend forever with this girl. I see her ending up as a fuckbuddy or fwb for you, which is just fine, just fine... but definitely not marriage ready. Maybe when she isn't attractive at all, anymore.
>>768784601
No problem, dude. I'm still not all the way there. I'm working through self esteem issues and jealousy issues still. But, the girl I'm involved with is a huge boon to that struggle.
>>768785081
Being this jaded to protect yourself from pain seems counter productive. The guy told you he will leave the girl if he wants. He doesn't have to marry her or lock her down if he doesn't want to. The major benefit of casual relationships that we have nowadays is just that. At the first sign of trouble you can just drop the girl with pretty much 0 downside. If I was close to the girl I will be sad for like 3 or 4 days max and then move on. Most of the time I don't feel anything because I was in high school got my heart crushed a couple times and GREW out of having stifling crushy feelings for every girl that will have me.
You realize most girls will just lie to you about how many partners they've had if they know you're going to be opposed to it. That and be less attracted to you because you can't handle the fact that she's had other partners. Disengaging with literally 99% of women because they don't fit your model 1950s wife is unrealistic.
>>768786068
Expecting to be disappointed is part of my DNA after having been let down so many times. I'm not particularly worried if this doesn't work out. She's genuinely a good enough person that I know we'll remain in contact even if one of us breaks it off.
>>768785831
Can you link me a source on some of those claims?
I'm not overly worried if this doesn't work out. I think it will, but I'm not under the delusion that this is perfection or one of a kind.
It's called outcome independence, and it's helped me both professionally and personally over the last few years. I do what I can to be a good person and work towards what I believe is right. I can only control myself, not others.
I can't sit around worrying about the infinite things I can't control.
>>768786683
I have no need to pursue other women atm. I'm in country and our agreement is when one of us is away.
I'll consider it when I'm abroad again. Just as I'm sure she will.
>>768775172
Lol, you should. I rekt that shit so bad she almost had to go to the ER last night.
Op is a faggot
>everything bad is not my fault
>>768787198
Good. Because you said you have no plan to do so, and I need you to know you're limiti-
Never mind, you said you don't plan to TELL her you fucked other women.
>>768775763
I take it she got the house then....?
KEK
>>768776209
KEK. He probably vpn fag anyways
>>768777744
lol you're actually a fucking idiot
>>768775592
>feelsgoodman
>>768777192
This is some good and true shit right here.
>>768777749
THis is some good advice.
>>768777142
ANother great post man
>>768787632
It does indeed.
>>768778899
Or you could become successful, find another successful, intelligent, healthy partner, and raise one or two healthy, intelligent, educated children.
>>768778959
Ever tried smoking indica?
>>768775078
>after you have sex with her 45 times she will bore you to death and then proceed to nag you about everything and demand to be proposed to
You act as if that is a hypothetical, rather than every single girlfriend ever.
>>768788723
Or you don't, because you simply don't care about finding
>another successful, intelligent, healthy partner
or raising
>one or two healthy, intelligent, educated children
>>768775078
>so she can anchor herself to your wealth.
With a /b/tard? My sides!!
>>768775078
op is brainlet
>>768788921
Perfectly valid. I'm just saying that your dismissal of the idea was based upon 7 kids and two broke ass parents living in a trailer park.
If you're successful, you can have kids and still travel and own nice homes and cars and all of that shit.
>>768789135
>the idea was based upon 7 kids and two broke ass parents living in a trailer park.
I wasn't that chap.
Still, I prefer to go for being successful with zero children. Also, I don't care for travel with the possible exception of a few weeks per year in a cottage by the sea. I've got all that. Never change a running system.
>>768775592
Have sex with your pets and sex isn't boring.
>>768789814
Well, I'm paying for their dinner, so I might as well shag them.
Joke aside, one of the wonderful things about pets is that they don't expect sex from you. Sex is a waste of time. People on /b/ tend to rant about nofap and watching porn "literally" being cuckoldry, but the sad truth is that sex isn't any better in the long run. There are better ways to happiness.
>>768790215
Yeah ok, try saying that when you have 4 willing dog vaginas open and quiver at the sight of your erect penis.
Or you can be a cuck and demote yourself to human women LOL
>>768790509
If those are the only alternatives, then it's dog vag for me, m8.
>>768775945
Great post, underrated, keep on truckin’ friend
>>768790650
Thank you.
I'm going to /thread now, it's been a splendid discussion with you gentlemen. Whatever your choices in life may be, I hope they'll be the right ones for you.
Cheerio!
>>768775945
I feel for you dude. Try doggo girls. The only real source of happiness on this planet.
>>768775078
Enlightened as fuck op. Made me proud to see somebody else get it. I've been with goddesses. Straight dimes. After hitting it a hundred times I'd rather jerk off. I've ate puss till my lips looked busted. Nympho after nympho. Now in my later years I've lost all patients with them. The personality is the only thing that really matters and even then its just a mater of time till they feel like s ball and chain.
>>768791200
bullshit anon
>>768791269
Been married twice and 30 our so girls in my party years. I have nothing to gain by lying.
>>768791449
>Been married twice and 30 our so girls in my party years
yeah, and i'm the governor of Massachusetts
