For many years I have been a hardcore Democrat. Sadly many if not most Democrats love attacking the 2nd Amendment. Overall my loyalty is not to the Democratic party or to the Republican party, but to the U.S. Constitution. These recent attempts at attacking the 2nd Amendment is unacceptable and we need to do something about it.
This is bad folks, if we don't stand up for the 2nd Amendment then we will lose our AR-15s and our other high capacity firearms. If we continue to do nothing and watch these gun grabbers march against the 2nd Amendment and allow them to censor us then one day we will eventually lose all semi-automatic weapons. Not only that, but thousands of innocent law abiding citizens will be blacklisted and lose their 2nd Amendment rights.
We need to get off our asses and march for the 2nd Amendment and show America that we won't back down. If we are attacked for defending the 2nd Amendment then go out there and hire a lawyer and sue your attackers. IF WE DO NOTHING WE WILL EVENTUALLY LOSE THE 2ND AMENDMENT.
Here is what will happen if the gun control advocates win: If you need to see a therapist for depression, anxiety issues, grief counseling, PTSD and other issues that may potentially require anti-depressants you will lose your 2nd Amendment rights. If you are a rape victim and need to see a therapist then you will lose your 2nd Amendment rights. If you are a victim of domestic abuse and you need therapy then you will lose your 2nd Amendment rights. AR-15s and other higher quality guns will be banned and you will not be allowed to buy as many guns as you want. You will also not be allowed to buy as much ammo as you want. That is just a sample of what will happen. If we do nothing and allow people to walk all over the Constitution then we will lose our rights one by one. Freedom is not free and those that choose not to defend their freedom do not deserve to have freedom. Is life without freedom truly worth living?
>>767817286
Lol you typed out all this shit on the board full of preteens that jerk off to traps cartoons and their friends on facebook. Try /pol/ next time
>>767817368
yeah fuck this thread. ops clearly to retarded to post in the right section. furthermore, the amount of text written, and complete lack of typos, makes me think this is either a copy pasta, or some russian troll shit. either fuck this thread.
this threads now about the best cereal.
>>767817457
but that's not two scoops though
>>767817286
fucking retard, the 2nd amendment is just that, an amendment, a change, it wasnt even part of your fucking shit constitution to begin with! You wanna talk about freedom, how about the freedom to be able to walk the streets and not have some nigger shoot the shit out of you because you're a different skin colour?
Dont even talk about criminals still having guns, small time crooks like muggers are opportunistic attackers, remove the guns you'll stop small crime like this, the only niggers who'll have guns are the hardcore who dont bother themselves with robbing johnny whiteboy for $30
>>767817286
>We need to get off our asses and march for the 2nd Amendment and show America that we won't back down.
Problem is, you can't get off your asses anymore.
>>767817368
>>767817457
Also, niggers tongue your anus'.
>>767817286
Well thought out post OP, great job and good for you.
Don't let these child porn loving faggots tell you this is the wrong board, they just want to people to leave them alone while they post trap threads to bait young kids into degeneracy, curse them for what they've done.
>>767817286
I don't think this aggressive push to destroy the 2nd Amendment by democrats will pay off the way they hope.
>There's a great many black people who automatically vote Democrat who own firearms legally. They don't believe the police can/will protect them so they believe in being armed. If the Dems are trying to strip them of their guns, they either won't vote or may even vote Republican (contrary to popular believe, many blacks digs Trump's ostentatious style).
>There's many people who either DON'T vote or vote libertarian who will now vote red by default in areas where the lefties are talking about disarmament.
>Apathetic Republicans who don't vote will now turn out in droves if their beloved firearm culture is threatened.
If all the lefties have is gun control and identity politics, they're going to shoot themselves in the foot. They instead should be pushing a solid single payer insurance plan, free college, student loan forgiveness, legal weed, and an end to the wars (though I'm aware a lot of that flies in the face of their financial puppet masters). THAT would make the Democrats win the nation by a landslide.
But identity politics just divides their party, and it seems ridiculous to the groups they aren't directly pandering to. And gun control, only the hippy portion of their demographic truly supports.... and that's a far smaller demographic than they think. They're alienating more support than they're gaining and they don't realize it.
>>767817717
OP here. I agree with you on the Trump part. He is taking away our rights one by one and that is all the more reason to stock up on guns! Seriously, do you think the government is just going to listen to us if we beg them to restore our rights? We may have to take back our rights with brute force if the government continues to ignore us. Trump is an abomination and he may put America in danger. You seriously want to surrender your only line of defense against the government to a lunatic like Trump?
>>767817990
>single payer insurance plan, free college, student loan forgiveness
Literally what nigger?
Who's going to pick up that tab, the tax payers?
You know, the people actually working?
I honestly don't get how people think these are intelligent ideas.
>>767817980
OP here. Thanks, I chose to post on /b/ so that this thread could get more attention. I bring up this topic almost everywhere I go online.
>>767818204
I didn't say *I* support that shit. I don't.
But I'm saying if they democrats ran with the Bernie plans, the lefties would be eating that shit up.
But if their platform is just identity politics and gun control, they will shit the bed next election season like they did the last one.
>>767818267
Oh, my bad fam.
>>767818252
>I chose to post on /b/ so that this thread could get more attention.
Most people on /pol/ are already in your shoes so this is a better place for this thread topic in my opinion, you did good by posting it here, these degenerate predictive programmers need to be stomped into oblivion one thread at a time.
>>767818204
Have the super rich people that are currently getting huge tax cuts pay for most of it. Hell, Paul Ryan just got an extra 700 million dollars because he pays less in taxes now. If we taxed the super rich and reduce them to simple rich people we could afford most of what this person was talking about.
>>767818267
>But I'm saying if they democrats ran with the Bernie plans
Bernie is just a stooge/puppet to reel in voters.
Once they have them by the balls, they push them back into the establishment left voting position, it's all in last years WikiLeaks.
They flat out admitted to wanting Trump/Bernie for this purpose, they just didn't think Trump could run a better centrist position than them.
>>767818444
Eh, that would be a waste of money and resources in my opinion.
We already have the technology to create food for our country and almost no cost or energy through machined systems that are AI controlled, I believe that would be the best way to use that money, but that's a very tricky subject because just robbing rich people is wrong, robbing evil rich people who gained their wealth illegally is a different story.
Bump
>>767817286
This belongs to /pol/ anon
>>767818754
Thanks for the Bump faggot, now get back in your loli thread or contribute.
>>767817990
OP here. Good post, I don't think all Democrats are crazy when it comes to gun control because they really would be shooting themselves in the foot. Sadly the media makes it look worse than things actually are. I still take all threats seriously though, better safe than sorry. Hopefully the Democratic party will come up with a better tactic soon.
>>767818899
I honestly think that most gun laws on the books now need to be repealed.
Modern progressives can't even into a logical conversation about guns without using word salads/play to twist the significance of said issues.
Like AR-15s being a problem when most gun deaths are by pistols, it's ridiculous.
>>767818654
That is a tricky subject. Sadly the rich are so powerful now that they can make illegal acts legal. I think we should have it the way things were back around the mid to late 60's. I think it's wrong to steal from the rich, but they shouldn't be getting all of these insane tax breaks. Paul Ryan got a 700 million dollar tax break and that is 700 million dollars less for our schools, roads, police force, our veterans among other things.
Bump
>>767819229
>but they shouldn't be getting all of these insane tax breaks. Paul Ryan got a 700 million dollar tax break
Yeah, I completely agree, that's just the tip of the iceberg too. 700m is quite literally a breadcrumb compared to what other Corporations keep in taxes.
I don't agree with increasing taxes though, most taxes need to be totally cut in my opinion, especially income taxes.
>>767819419
Lobbying too, that shit needs to go.
>>767817457
>to retarded
>to
Oh Anon, have I got something to tell you...
>>767817286
>if we don't stand up for the 2nd Amendment then we will lose our AR-15s
its your problem. U never shouldve goten them
>a well regulated militia being NECESSARY to the security of a free state
>no militia ever
>but we need guns
>2nd amendment is about guns
>usa is a chhristian country - it says so on our money
>>767819781
What are you on about reject?
>>767817286
>I was once like you, note my tribal appeal
>now read my idiots manifesto
lol get better at this anon
>>767819781
kek
But anon is a constitutional scholar, honest.
>>767819870
wheres your well organized militia, reject?
>>767817678
But it was though. While the Bill of Rights was ratified in 1791, all of the amendments within it were brought up by states in 1788-1789 during the Conventions prior to the final ratification of the Constitution.
This is why these are the very first 10 that were added, and why none of them have been changed to this day.
Also, I’d like to point out, only one amendment in our history has ever been repealed, and that repealing had almost the entire support of the government to do so.
>>767820000
It's the National Guard, you fucking moron.
>>767819870
That the second amendment also stipulates armed citizens to be part of a WELL REGULATED MILITIA. Most gun owners are not and those who are actively think (and have been thinking) the government is coming for their guns any day now.
Then he also makes fun of religious nuts who think that because it says "one nation under god" on our money, it means we have always been a christian nation. When in reality, that "under god" stuff was only added during the 50s when conservatives made a big push for it. Our founding fathers wanted separation of church and state - or do you only care about what the founding fathers have to say when it comes to your precious guns?
>>767820161
>part of us armed forces
>militia
>>767820263
>That the second amendment also stipulates armed citizens to be part of a WELL REGULATED MILITIA.
No it doesn't, learn to read.
There's an organized militia = National Guard.
And there's an unorganized militia = everyone else.
>>767820304
Google it if you don't believe me, go read the Militia Act of 1903 in its entirety.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_Act_of_1903
>>767817286
people are ready lose their rights it's called being convicted of a felony. automatics were banned in the early 90s for 10 years, magically they're still around so assholes like you can whine about this stuff in 2018
>>767820456
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban
>>767820366
>disregard the 2 deffinition which say militia isnt the government-elected boldy
>>767820263
>it means we have always been a christian nation.
We are, go move to Haiti of you like Voodoo so much.
>>767820545
Yes anon, it's called the unorganized militia.
>>767817286
>For many years I have been a hardcore Democrat.
Except you really haven't, and this is just a propaganda piece meant to persuade real Democrats to go over to your side.
Nice try, Alex Jones.
>>767820000
"The Second Amendment guarantees an individual's right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller
>>767820456
people are ready lose their rights it's called being convicted of a felony. automatics were banned in the early 90s for 10 years, magically they're still around so assholes like you can whine about this stuff in 2018. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban
tl:dr
>>767820455
look up when was the 2nd was established
>>767817286
I think that if you're a know harm to yourself or others, you shouldn't be allowed to own a firearm.
Otherwise you should be able to buy whatever the fuck you please.
I'm kinda in between on a lot of issues, so nobody really gives a shit what I think anyway.
>>767820585
>well organized militia
>the unorganized militia
>>767820706
Make an argument or be quiet, you people are ridiculous.
>>767820674
>its a cristian nation, it says so on the money
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aronow_v._United_States
>>767820726
You're not up on your current definition of militias anon, there are two categories now.
Well regulated = National Guard
Unorganized militia = everyone else.
>>767820888
>Well regulated
Organized*
>>767817286
First off, your "I'm usually a democrat" at the beginning is obvious bait.
Gun control, while important, is only a single issue vote determiner to the right wingers.
Oh yeah and stop bitching because your side already won a long time ago. America has culturally accepted that occasional school shootings are just how it is, the risk we take for our love of easily buying firearms.
And thay wont change without a major cultural shift in America.
>>767820828
u faggot r ridiculous
u had 1 war and needed to put in a law for every1 to have a gun and to have militia, so that "tyrranical government" doesnt rukle over u.
Then u never made the militia, but u kept the convenient part of owning guns
2nd is old, outdated, misunderstood and disregarded to suit your convenience
>>767820951
>the risk we take for our love of easily buying firearms.
Actually it has to do with preservation and defense more than anything.
>>767821000
>u faggot r ridiculous
>>767821000
>so that "tyrranical government" doesnt rukle over u.
Oh because Goobermints historically don't fuck with their citizens, especially when they're disarmed.
Kys nigger.
>>767820888
well regulated is run by the state
its the "every1 else" that 2nd talks about
militia is the armed force for peacekeeping organized my citizens directly. If u "elect militia" through government, its not militia - its THE ARMY
>>767821000
>Then u never made the militia
We had them during our Independence, our Civil War and today it's called the National Guard.
How many times to I have to type this out for you dumb fucks?
>>767821082
when was the last time u fought against the tyrranical government?
kys, nigggot jew
>>767821139
>we had them duringthe war. Then we disbanded the ppl, but federalized the function
kys, cocksucker
>>767821120
I'm not arguing ith you about it, the fact is there are two categories...
Organized = National Guard
Unorganized = Everyone else.
>>767821039
>>767821152
>when was the last time u fought against the tyrranical government?
Open a history book retard.
>kys, nigggot jew
Projection, jew want the goyim disarmed. Nice try though.
>>767821225
thats not what "organized" mean
"organized" doesnt mean "run by government"
>>767821230
No, but >>767821191 is.
>>767821296
Google it if you don't believe me, go read the Militia Act of 1903 in its entirety.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_Act_of_1903
Second time I posted this, you fucking idiots can't even read in 2018. You're pathetic, it lays out how the National Guard is going to be the Organized Militia.
>>767821294
have u? No, u didnt - u elected Trump instead
u can stop trying to speak, nigger
>>767821333
stay ass-mad, pathetic pajeet
>>767821498
>>767821420
>of 1903
>commertial companies cant be well organized - that wouldve made them government-owned by definition
>>767821516
Your arguments hold no water, it's not my fault your parents and teachers failed you.
Repeal the second amendment.
Disarm the police.
>>767821527
good girl - stopped using words to communicate
>>767821590
yours dont even hold air
>>767821582
Yes anon of 1903, over 100 years ago and you still don't understand how our militias are defined.
Instead of learning real things, your gay teachers taught you fake science.
>>767817286
>He was behind of it...
>>767821616
You started it.
>>767821631
Projection.
>>767821683
over 100 years after 2nd amendment, when all ppl involved died and u were free to misinterpret it the way u see fit
>>767821753
Strawman.
>>767821739
keep telling yourself that - maybe eventually ull believe it
>>767821807
Projection again.
>>767821787
riiiight...
>>767821827
>ad nauseam
>>767821828
>>767821858
How about you guys make new points instead of lingering around a subject you know nothing about?
>>767820547
Yeah, they were all believers of some religion, who also believed there should be a separation of church and state
>>767817286
As an 18 year old Male reading what you have wrote I believe you've captured some good points on what 'deems' a person unnecessary to own a firearm if they were to deconstruct the 2A. But. It's easy to say "yeah let's March for it" but who reads something saying "bring your guns and March" and goes to something like that. My state literally describes several semi-automatic and bolt action rifles as illegal to open carry on public but allows to be possessed for other uses. I feel like doing a March is something that a whiny Democrat does. I fucking hate left people. Typically young folk demanding a change for either their benefits or for something they shouldn't even put their head in. Not to forget about entitlement and a sense of feeling like they are doing something with their lives "making a change" I don't know man. Maybe I'm babbling bullshit but I feel like perhaps it's all for someone's agenda.
>>767821922
like u didnt? Ok
GUUUUUUUUUUUUUNS
fapfapfapfap
>patriot act is about patriotism
>militia act is about militia
>>767821985
I made my points logical and easy to read, they were also based in facts.
I cannot say the same about you two.
>GUUUUUUUUUUUUUNS
fapfapfapfap
Well anon, it was apart of OPs topic so...
>>767817286
The second amendment needs to go, its nothing more than a colonial hangover that's ten times more trouble than it's worth. Anybody who isn't an absolute retard or a psychopath can see this. You shouldn't have an AR15 - you've absolutely no business in the world with one. It isn't right
>>767822083
u made them wrong
>>767822041
As far as I am aware, the Militia Act of 1903 didn't strip citizens of any gun owning rights they already had.
The Patriot Act is full blown treasonous and people should be hanged for it.
>>767822142
No anon, I didn't.
>>767822221
>>767822137
What is this, some kind of bot response with extra spacing?
>>767822198
u dont need militia act to have citizens orgnize on their own and form militias. Milita act erects another government body made out of army reserves. Thats not what militia is
>>767822313
Nah boi, I just spaced that out accidentally.
>>767822221
u did
>>767822336
>u dont need militia act to have citizens orgnize on their own and form militias.
I agree, even they agreed, but they wanted an Organized one too.
That's why there's two categories today, you illiterate monkey.
>>767822359
Nope.
>>767822404
theres no "Organized" and redefining words wont change that, u illiterate fuck
>>767822433
yep
>>767822451
>>767822474
>>767822537
>heres an interpretation i agree with
>>767822451
I get it anon, you refuse to read the Militia Act of 1903, that's your prerogative.
>>767822627
i get it - u wanna cherrypick the amendment to suit u, just like your bible - thats your perogative
now quick! Dont have health care!
>>767819574
>to tell you
>to tell
>to
Oh anon, have i got something two tell you...
>>767822705
I didn't write it anon, why are you so ass blasted?
>>767822769
why r u mad u dont have healthcare?
>>767822842
I can't believe you're this mad over a conversation about the Militia.
My families healthcare is overpriced, thanks Cheney and Obama.
>>767822992
i mean well organized healthcare
>>767817286
Madison wrote the second amendment, mouth breather.
>>767823047
Ahhh I see, Yeah, thanks Cheney and Obama.
>>767823255
better vote for Trump, then - ull keep guns, bible and no healthcare
u r so free and so smrt
>>767821976
The servers are hosted in Russia at the Internet Research Agency. What can be done?
>>767823419
>>767823448
Right, Shareblue and Co. aren't on /b/.
>>767823561
>healthcare is slavery
>2nd in incarceration per capita worldwide
>free
>>767823638
Forcing citizens to pay for illegal immigrants free ER visits every night at 1,000$ a visit, I'd call that theft any day.
>>767823638
>2nd in incarceration per capita worldwide
Yeah, we definitely aren't perfect anon, can you point to any Utopia throughout history?
>>767823734
>healthcare is for illegal immigrants
>>767817286
Go back to/pol/ you asshole.
You are an asshole and liar.
>>767823789
Finland
>>767823789
Canada
>>767817286
The constitution is not the Ten Commandments. Times change.
>>767823928
ten commandments were never good, unique or god-inspired
>>767823826
Can a Hospital turn them away?
Do those bills effect healthcare prices?
Kys nigger.
>>767823842
Retarded.
>>767823859
Wew.
>>767824047
hospitals can treat u for free
kys, nigger
only usa has freedom(tm)
>>767823965
>ten commandments were never good
Blasphemy, you'd have to be a fool to believe this shit.
Do you hate your parents?
Do you wish your neighbor robbed you every night, or raped your boyfriend?
You probably aren't even aware of the commandments.
>>767824166
>hospitals can treat u for free
So, you think that the Hospital staff should work for free and/or by threat of imprisonment?
Kys nigger.
>>767824189
gj quoting 1 relevant and 1 semi-valid out of 10
if parents abuse u, u r not obliged to love them
>not mentioning murder
>hammurabis code
>>767824267
wow - aint u a dumb fucking bitch. U r done
>>767824324
They're all common sense, you acting like they're shit just proves that you don't deserve to live in a civilized country in my opinion.
Sorry, but not sorry, I didn't realize you were expecting me to type them all out for you.
>>767824324
>not mentioning murder
You don't even know what the word murder in Hebrew means.
>>767823859
>Canada
LOL!!!
Canada has more problems than it likes to admit. For example, the teenage suicide rate is higher in Canada than in the U.S.
>>767817286
First they come and slowly strip the 2nd Amendment then take it. Then the scary part the 1st will start getting chipped away. Smarter men than us wrote this stuff for a reason.
>>767825380
>Smarter men than us wrote this stuff for a reason.
Yes, that's very true.
There's a good reason the 1st is the 1st and the 2nd comes next, they knew what the future held for us.
>>767823859
Al that "free" heathcare in Canada is not free at all. It's paid by exorbitant taxes . . . and you are STILL REQUIRED under PENALTY of LAW to purchase insurance on the side.
>>767825544
>>767823859
And if you want a really good laugh, google "Canada's notwithstanding clause".
Our so called charter of rights has a little caveat near the end that says the government can suspend any of the aforementioned "rights" whenever it feels like it.
>>767823609
>Shareblue and Co
far less prevalent and pernicious
>>767825257
>For example, the teenage suicide rate is higher in Canada than in the U.S.
This is a self-correcting problem.
>>767825909
>far less prevalent and pernicious
Not according to factual data.
Better luck next time.
>>767820263
Well regulated was a phrase at the time the framers wrote the document (1791) that meant working properly - a well regulated watch is not a watch that is under constant control, it’s one that works as it is supposed to.
The people who are not actively serving in the US Armed Forces (any branch) are the militia a per our various amended militia acts act the federal level, which generally restricts it to males, age 17-45.
At the state level, depending on the state, it could be any citizen, or only males, ages 17 all the way up to 70. Some states have removed their militia acts from their state laws, but those are few.
Various Federalist Papers show exactly what the militia is and isn’t in regards to the US government: mainly that is a branch that can be called upon by the government when needed and should be ready at a moment’s notice, and that is is also the safeguard for states against the Federal Government should the government’s standing army turn tyrannical in opposition to rule of law.
Most of our founding fathers were religious in some fashion or another - deists or more organized variety, however they created the 1st Amendment as a safeguard to keep future governments from turning into another England/Church of England that caused the original prosecutions of non-worshippers in the way that laid the foundation for the New World to begin with.
The founding fathers were more of a “let me do as I wish and I’ll do the same for you as long as neither of us cause harm” types of guys. They really didn’t like being pushed around and told what to do, and as such their writings and laws reflect that because of the recent war for independence they had just fought with England.
>>767823609
Ha! There's no comparison. Conservative think tanks have mastered duplicity as an art form.
>>767825995
disinformation and projection... like anything but Fox is fake news.
>>767826120
Show me one conservative company that pays shills to post online.
>>767826211
>disinformation and projection
Is it that hard to google search Correct The Record or ShareBlue?
>>767826214
>>767826254
I heard they were paying those niggers 9k a month to post post here.
>>767826254
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>>767825970
But it's been self-correcting for decades and there is no end in sight . . . there are large swaths of the Canadian population that simply have no will to live. The typical Canadian is aimless in life and identity-less in societal role.
>>767826655
Te elites have been pushing decadence on the populace for a long time now, destroying traditional roles, it's sad and they should all be hanged for it.
>>767817286
Fuck off idiot. All those "loss of freedoms" that you mentioned, should happen. Grow up and stop being an imbecile.
>>767826655
Let me clarify myself:
The typical Canadian is aimless in life and identity-less in societal role . . . AND CONSEQUENTLY . . . large swaths of the Canadian population simply have no will left to live.
>>767827287
>All those "loss of freedoms" that you mentioned, should happen.
>Grow up
>>767824909
if they r common sense bible is shit and god is irelevant and that proves u dont deserve to live in a civilized world
>>767825212
unlawfully kill is what it means, stop trying to transate language u dont speak
>>767827564
>stop trying to transate language u dont speak
That's exactly what you tried to do, how ironic.
>if they r common sense bible is shit and god is irelevant and that proves u dont deserve to live in a civilized world
Learn to into English.
>>767825257
>freedom(tm)
>>767825544
>>767825544
ive got free health care and im not required to have insurance. Ofc its paid for with taxes. Why r u not complaining about paying for state roads with taxes and also needing to buy a car?!
>>767827641
u dont know what irony is
u dont get to point fingers - murded means murder and u didnt even catch the issue of it saying "dont murder", not "dont kill" and trying to say "u dont know what <<kill>> in hebrew means"
my english is impeccable
u lose, u r done
>>767817286
You forgot to use the word "potentially". Dumbass. I don't want a bunch of insecure, bigoted, hateful assholes having access to any weapons at all. Period.
>>767827705
>ive got free health care
No you don't, it's subsidized through taxes.
>Why r u not complaining about paying for state roads with taxes and also needing to buy a car?!
Roads have many uses besides just for cars.
>>767827705
If you pay taxes, then you are paying, a.k.a. not free.
In Quebec, all residents are required to buy additional medication insurance.The medications you may need are not covered by the government's "free" health care. If you want any kind of health care above the lowest levels provided by the government, you have to buy additioanl private health insurance on the side.
I am actually opposed to paying for excessive roads and other public works that no one asked for. At east I have a choice in buying/not buying a car. I have no choice in buying medication insurance. I take ZERO meds by the way.
>>767828196
So those people do now have a right to get to effectively defend themselves?
>>767817286
>I found who was behind of it..
>>767817286
>if we don't stand up for the 2nd Amendment then we will lose our AR-15s and our other high capacity firearms
god forbid lol
>If you are a rape victim and need to see a therapist then you will lose your 2nd Amendment rights.
that....i dont think thats true at all
>>767828227
u can go now - u dont understand how society works
>>767828286
>in quebec
>but u gotta pay taxes
wow. Why do u have police? Or firefighters?
>>767827882
Murder ≠ Kill
>>767817678
Surely these niggers own these guns legally and will continue to follow the law at the request of the government. Good thinking, anon
>>767817286
It says a MILITIA douchebag. But the NRA used membership money to guy off SC Justices to claim that this means we all have a right to weapons.
And it also says WELL REGULATED douchebag. What part of WELL REGULATED do you not understand?
>>767827882
>my english is impeccable
>if they r common sense bible is shit
>>767828610
no shit, whore?
so why does it say "dont kill" in your bible?
>>767817990
Bro, you remind me of my fucking wife. Using definitive words to describe ALL or EVERYTHING. You're a bitch. A nagging, lying, manipulative bitch. Just like most lamebrained, dumbass, dependant women. If you thought for yourself instead allowing yourself to be brainwashed by either the left or the right you'd realize some motherfuckers just don't deserve owning a gun. Just the same as some motherfuckers don't deserve to be behind the wheel of a car and so on. Ain't nothing wrong with regulation.
You have to understand that the NRA is just a fucking lobbyist to the gun industry. Guns aren't selling because there ain't no Boogeyman trying to steal your guns away.
>>767828286
I take ZERO meds because I take care of myself. But I am still compelled to pay for (aka subsidize) medication insurance for people who did not take care of themselves.
>>767828503
What am I failing to understand? That canadians pay a fuck ton of taxes and part of said taxes subsidize their "health care", no I get that... That roads aren't limited to cars? Can you not walk on them? Ride a bicycle on them? Drive a tractor on them? I get interstate highways have restrictions ...
>>767828649
Well regulated in the 2a isn't referring to government regulation, it's about functioning properly, e.g. you know how to use your firearms.
>>767818444
Why the fuck is no other middle class right wing idiot even preaching this?? You all are fucking OWNED by your lobbyist politicians just like the left are OWNED by their victimizing lobbyist politicians. Fuck all you extremists idiots.
The right is giving away all the middle class's growth potential and the left is doing the EXACT same thing, only in a different way.
>>767817831
look at the package on fatboy. I bet he eats EVERYTHING he kills
>>767828670
Which one?
I can show you a Bible that calls Lucifer Jesus so...
I think the issue is context.
Unjustly murdering a person is breaking the commandment for sure.
In war or punishment, it's not.
Punishment can probably extend into defending your life from a violent attacker.
>>767828703
Even if there was never a threat of someone in political power trying to restrict your right to own a firearm there would still be plenty of firearms being sold.
There will always be people new to firearms, just came of age or was just introduced to firearms , new calibers being introduced all of the time. Not to mention that lot of people who have to have the latest and greatest...
>>767828670
The Torah and Hebrew Bible made clear distinctions between the shedding of innocent blood versus killing as the due consequence of a crime. A number of sins were considered to be worthy of the death penalty including murder,[14] incest,[15] bearing false witness on a capital charge,[16] adultery,[17] idolatry,[18] homosexual acts,[9] bestiality,[19] human sacrifice to pagan gods,[20] cursing a parent,[21] fortune-telling,[22] and other sins.
For example, the Exodus narrative describes the people as having turned to idolatry with the golden calf while Moses was on the mountain receiving the law from God. When Moses came down, he commanded the Levites to take up the sword against their brothers and companions and neighbors. The Levites obeyed and killed about three thousand men who had sinned in worship of the golden calf. As a result, Moses said that the Levites had received a blessing that day at the cost of son and brother.[23] On a separate occasion, a blasphemer was stoned to death because he blasphemed the name of the Lord (Yahweh) with a curse.[24]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thou_shalt_not_kill
>>767828604
The police in this province are consistently rated amonst the least effective in all of the US and Canada. But we pay the highsest income tax.
The fire department is paid for by PROPERTY taxes alone. If you really don't want to pay for firefighters, then don't own property in the municipality. There are municipalities with NO fire departments or are manned by VOLUNTEER firefighters. Again, I have a CHOICE to participate in paying for firefighters or not.
>>767820719
I care. I care a lot. You see, the problem here is the most vocal are the extremists. The far rights. The far left. Us I. The middle don't speak out as much because these idiots are real quick to insult, down-play, misinform, and downright lie. The world would be a much better place if the middle spoke up a lot more
>>767828670
Doesn't it also say to kill your wife if she's not a virgin when you marry her?
Deuteronomy 22:13-21
>>767829308
He has autism, please be patient.
>>767828667
non-sequitur
>>767828670
Leviticus 20 9-16 list 7 actions that call for the perpetrators to be killed for.
Have you ever even read the bible?
>>767828732
The point, in response to a post suggesting Canada is a utopia, is that Canada is not a utopia. So many Canadians no longer have the will to live. Does that sound like utopia to you?
>>767829609
It's quite pertinent actually.
>>767829308
another contradiction in your bible
>>767829402
no, u do, u fuck
>>767829649
read 1st point of this post
>>767829082
kj
show it, then
>>767829208
listen, u special cunt
it says in bibles "dont kill". If it then says to kill, especially for such "sins" as incest, cursing a parent, fortune-telling or homosexuality, the bible is a shit moral standard and contradictory. Its also irrelevant, regardless. If it meant "dont murder", go cherrypick the bibles that agree with u. If the specific rules of killing of reading a horoscope take presidence over the general rule of not killing, its still a shit rule
u can go fuck yourselves now, u r done
>>767829796
How in the fuck did anything I posted even remotely suggest that canaderp is a utopia?
>>767829227
>of us and canada
>no other country has police and if they do, they dont pay taxes to employ them
fuck off, u lost
>>767829870
only not at all
>>767830014
NIV calls Lucifer the Morning Star. Probably many others too.
>>767830014
>another contradiction in your bible
It's not my bible, I'm an agnostic atheist.
>>767830014
>listen, u special cunt
>it says in bibles "dont kill". If it then says to kill
Wow anon, are you serious?
Cherry picking out of the Bible won't get you far, you're taking it completely out of context.
>>767830014
Go read Judges, get yourself educated.
>>767830191
>Cherry picking out of the Bible won't get you far, you're taking it completely out of context.
Adding to this, other parts of the Bible back up my position and not yours.
>>767830030
>>767823789
Canada
>>767830117
>lucifer - morning star
> =jesus
>probably others too
>>767830191
stop trolling, u lost
>>767830259
go read sth facually accurate, nigger
>>767817286
The 4th amendment is at far greater risk of being diminished or repealed you constitutional moron.
>>767826014
Not sure if pasta but good shit nonetheless. A militia isn't an extension of the government but an amalgamation of the nation's or rather state's citizens, actively serving the constitution and thus serving the nation's interests. The general population IS the militia.
>>767830605
What about the Battle of Jericho?
When God told them to carry the Arc of the Covenant around the walls of the city once each day for 6 days, on the seventh day they walked around the walls and blew their trumpets and the walls crumbled and they slaughtered everyone.
21 And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.
>lucifer - morning star
> =jesus
Lucifer = son of the morning, not morning star. They are completely differently written.
>>767830980
Isaiah 14:12, talking about Lucifer ... How you have fallen from heaven,O morning star, son of the dawn!
>>767831293
Hmmmm, which corrupted Bible are you reading, bozo?
Isaiah 14:12 King James Version
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
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>>767831293
Whatever book you got that from is trash and Blaspheming, throw it away and get yourself a proper Bible immediately.
>>767817286
Would you fuck off? You're not fooling anybody, Trumptard. You're the "some of the people" who have been fooled "all of the time." You think your little bullshit is going to convert Democrats to your moron way of thinking?
>>767831408
ISV, CEV, ESV, WEB, NIV, NLT, NAS, YLT, CSB, GNT, HCSB
ALL say the same round about thing, morning star, day star, morning star, shining star ...
>>767831738
All wrong, you should look into who first published those versions anon.
>>767831632
KJV is not the only version of the bible, you do realize this, no?
>>767831792
When did I state that?
I said a proper one.
/b/ is going so fast I tl;dr's but I totes agree with the FIRST paragraph.
>>767831792
Can you read Greek?
Get this...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septuagint
>>767831792
KJV is more accurate than every one of those you posted above, anyone who tells you different is a liar.
>>767831815
Which is a "proper one", KJV based on the CSB which calls lucifer a "shinning morning star"
>>767832116
>KJV based on the CSB which calls lucifer a "shinning morning star"
What are you talking about?
KJV is not based on any English Bible, it's the first English Bible, well the 1611 Edition is.
Any Bible that calls Lucifer morning star, is Blaspheming.
>>767832530
>KJV is not based on any English Bible, it's the first English Bible, well the 1611 Edition is.
No it's not, the Tyndale Bible is, was like late 1400s IIRC, can't be arsed to look it up.
>>767832530
>Any Bible that calls Lucifer morning star, is Blaspheming.
NRSV calls him a day star and that's the version used my the majority of biblical scholars, but I guess you're more of a scholar than all of the rest, huh?
>>767833167
Ahh yes, that's true.
>>767833167
But the KJV certainly isn't based on some post 2000 version, lol.
>>767833327
>but I guess you're more of a scholar than all of the rest, huh?
Read whatever Bible you want anon.
seems this thread has severely digressed.
>>767832530
>Any Bible that calls Lucifer morning star, is Blaspheming.
The Douay-Rheims Bible which also predates the KJV also calls Lucifer a "Day Star"
>>767833857
Are you trying to have an astrological debate or something?
>>767833857
There's a reason Luciferians attribute Lucifer to Venus and not the Sun.
Not that any of it matters, they're just titles.
As long as people understand that Lucifer and Jesus aren't one entity Lucifer isn't on the same level as Jesus, they'll be good.
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