So, you fags still don't brush?
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
So, you fags still don't brush?
>>767418562
>Implying oral Cancer has anything to do with brushing your teeth.
>>767418562
Haven't brushed for years. Checked my teeth with dentist. Nothing. Dentist in denial, accuses me of lying when told. Even though no one stops doctors from verifying my claims empirically except themselves. Fucking liars.
>>767419273
>>767418562
Although your post contains a pic that I personally find over-sensationalizes a very important issue, I feel I should.....no.....must share my oral hygiene routine so that others here may benefit.
First, a waterpik is an ESSENTIAL tool for oral spelunking. Yes, I use that word because it's more fun to imagine yourself as a cave explorer when you brush your teeth. It's also important to have fun when doing mundane (but IMPORTANT) tasks but that's probably another post altogether. Anyway.......
You need to have a waterpik and use it every other evening before bed. Add a QUARTER of a TEASPOON of bleach to the water tank and use the waterpik first. Don't wear any clothes that are dark colored, as even the minute amount of bleach diluted in the water can stain clothes if it splashes (and oh, it will splash as my Nintendo Power Club shirt will attest to!)
Anyway, you should also have the standard floss/brush/toothpaste combo obviously. I prefer Sensodyne toothpaste because I find it to be the most effective brand for ME, PERSONALLY. You may want another brand. That's fine but I don't think Sensodyne is bested by any other brands.
Begin by using the waterpik (if its on a night you're supposed to use it). Afterwards, floss, THEN brush. You need to spend a minute on each "quadrant" of your mouth (molars, front teeth, incisors, etc.) DO NOT FORGET TO BRUSH YOUR GUMS. Like, right about your teeth along the gumline. Be gentle when doing so, as too much force can cause microscopic cuts which can get infected.
When you're done, rinse with Listerine for exactly three minutes.
This is the NIGHT routine. In the mornings, floss, brush and use Listerine (but do NOT use Listerine more than twice a day). You DO NOT need to use the waterpik more than 3-4 times a week.
My dentist CONSTANTLY compliments me on my teeth when I go in for my routine cleaning and the last time I went his oral hygienist even lamented the lack of plaque on my teeth.
>>767418562
you can't brush away cancer, you idiot.
>>767419273
>>767419742
and you're just generally an idiot.
>>767419742
>>767419607
Same. Haven't brushed in years. Literally have never, ever had a cavity. Dentistry is a fucking scam, unless you have some sort of accident and bust your teeth out,
>>767419826
Read first two sentences and can tell your brain has been poisoned by fluoride. Enjoy your cancer chatty Cathy.
>>767420145
Thanks.
>>767418562
Can you children go one day without saying the F word?
>>767420346
Oh, the only person here being poisoned is YOU, but countless microbes feasting on your tender, decaying gum flesh. Do you even know what goes on in a mouth that isn't taken care of properly? Do you? Look at pic related. Does it make you nervous? It makes me nervous. My heart is racing as I type this and I feel IMPERILED and THREATENED.
>>767420121
Flouride stops bacteria and algae and parasites from growing in and infesting the drinking water supply and all its hardware.
Would you rather drink scummy pond water that that tastes like rot and AT BEST gives you horrible diarrhea?
Do you think water just stays fresh forever sitting in rusty old underground pipes?
>>767420641
Frick you figgort.
>>767420121
this is anti-vaxxer level ignorance.
>>767420145
To compound the puzzle, I used to drink gallons of sugar Coke and Pepsi. (Recently I only drink sugar-free drinks.)
Maybe it helps that I also drink plenty of milk. Milk is a natural antiseptic.
And I don't smoke.
>>767420792
nah dude, this guy is out to educate, expose, and eradicate the vast government conspiracy to.. give us all cancer for no apparent reason?
>>767420641
>>767420641
no, you fag. americans are so fucking sensitive.
>"don't say the a-word, b-word, c-word, d-word, e-word, f-word, g-word, h-word, j-word, l-word, m-word, n-word, p-word, q-word, r-word, s-word, t-word, v-word, or the w-word."
fuck off, fag.
>>767420967
it's the reptilians who plan to murder everyone so they can steal our gold.
>>767420922
>suger free
enjoy cancer and neorotoxins
>>767420686
Drink tap water lol what do you take me for some peasant?
>>767421402
Europeans don't swear. American detected.
>inb4 autism
>inb4 go back 2 reddit
>>767421484
you drink bpa filled water? ok maybe it isnt as bad since the piping in full of bpa too
>>767419742
>quotes a guy who promoted a cancer medicine which caused cyanide poisoning that killed people
brilliant.
>>767421593
>never been to europe
my entire country swears like sailors because we are.
>>767421446
I had got cancer long before I switched to artificial sweeteners.
>>767420145
dentist here.
diet is by far the most important factor for getting cavities. it is certainly possible to never brush and not get cavities because your diet won't create them. but for most people, brushing will help. and it will also make you much less disgusting.
>>767421691
where, pal?
>>767419273
>>767421595
>>767420641
We sling the N word around pretty haphazardly too, you fucking nigger.
Random off topic question, why are other people okay with seltzer water but when I drink it, it tastes like the most nasty, bittery shit I've ever had?
>>767421776
>dentist
>on /b/
Nice try, kid.
>>767421891
based. Some time ago it was all glass and iron. Now jes are pumping us with plastics and other shit, specially in food
>>767421446
Also diabetes, lol.
>>767422045
You're an anti-dentite!
>>767418562
why the fuck would you brush your teeth when you are going to die anyways?
>>767421776
I agree the only reason to brush your teeth is to not be gross fortunately for me fuck everybody and what they think they are going to die from fluoride poison or some manufactured disease that takes advantage of weakened immune systems do to fluoride.
>>767422028
i used to hate seltzer but i got used to it and like it now. get a flavor you like. i like lime la croix. some can be really sweet, like kroger brand fake lime seltzer - i drank some of this and liked it and it kinda helped me transition to the less sweet stuff.
>>767421803
You're too curious, NSA.
>>767420121
>holy shit, tap water is so bad for you!
>when I'm done smoking my cigarette and drinking my whiskey, I'm gonna write a blog post about just how bad it is!
>>767422060
Its all on purpose the world is over crowded and the one percent want more room for themselves.
Do American like ultra white teeth because it shows they are """"rich""" ?
Even if they have shit teeth behind the fake one ?
Why do they have excalty the same smile?
Did they wish to have the same perfect face too ?
>>767422337
start with afrian, then lol
>>767419742
>>767419273
>>767420121
did you know that water can be poisonous? The government is literally feeding everyone water and they can DIE because of it? Wake up sheeple
Did you also know air contains hydrogen gas? It's an extremely flammable gas! The jews have been poisoning our children with hydrogen for all these years, and when the time comes they will make it light up, burning all honest americans, as a sick form of torture.
And air also has carbon dioxide, an extremely deadly gas that LITERALLY SUFFOCATES YOU. WAKE UP SHEEPLE
>>767422467
*africans
I took shit care of my teeth and they rotted horribly. Was in so much pain, had them all pulled. Been a toothless weirdo for about 4 years. Going in to get dental implants later this month. Take care of your teeth. Shit's expensive.
>>767422371
Explain how and why please
>>767422290
>>767422228
dentist again.
i didn't say that's the only reason, and fluoride is a GOOD thing. most people don't just go from no cavity to bam cavity. it's a progression - every day you eat sugar and your enamel softens and then your mouth cleanses and the enamel hardens again. this constant battle sometimes leads to cavities depending on your diet. brushing tips the scale back toward no cavities. fluoride chemically changes your teeth to make them harder - and hence makes it harder for cavities to form. so it all plays a role in reducing cavities.
>>767422400
Because Americans have higher standards than pic related.
>>767422532
and salt literally has sodium, and with contact with water sodium can react very explosively. We put salt in every food. Do you think that's just a coincidence? The lizard people man, they're ruthless
>>767422532
Shit bait, you should have take hydrogen or Jews. Not both.
>>767421670
Russia isn't Europe.
>>767422532
laugh and chuckle when you watch your family slowly die one by one of cancer in front of your eyes.
>>767422606
This shit is cliché, I'm pretty sure American have worst tooth than brit.
Can't prove it tho.
But seriously, in your head every health teeth should by this "generic shade of white"...
That sad, yeah "standard" is the right word...
>>767418562
of course we do, this is /b/ not england
>>767422557
You didn't take care of it because you were depress? Alcoholic?
>>767422767
I can't laugh when all my grandparents, even the 90yo ones that have been drinking poisoned tap water all their lives, are dying of cancer. it's an invisible form of cancer caused especially by the fluoride, and genetically engineered to be undetectable by anyone, the doctors won't believe me though.
>>767422590
what does it do to the brain tooth doctor?
>>767422976
You dumb, nitrate/chlore
>>767422950
Pretty much. Also, lazy and an idiot. Was a fairly heavy smoker at times, did a plethora of drugs too.
>>767420686
>Flouride stops bacteria and algae and parasites from growing
What is it doing to our natural gut bacteria that people need for good health?
I neglected my teef for my whole life... I had decay on every single one.
Just spent $2700 getting them sorted, and now brush 3 times per day. What do you think?
>>767423066
It's common, even with rich folks.
At least you'll teach your kids to be careful
>>767420686
Fluoruide is to re-mineralize your teeth.
>>767422557
You had all your teeth pulled? How much are a full set of implants? Must be tens of thousands?
>>767423001
>>767422976
nigger there is a cancer epidemic in al developed countries
>>767423223
Show full smile with gum.
Looks pretty (American standard)
>>767421484
>mineral water from the ring of fire
this contains more fluoride than tap water, m8. fluoride is very common in mountains, and guess where mineral water comes from... that's right, mountains. as a result, mineral water often contains more fluoride.
>>767419273
beware infrared rays, they can damage you neurologically!
>>767422767
You dumb bitch, cancer will get you if you live long enough. Mutations are always happening inside you.
And if you think trace amounts of flouride in drinking water is bad, you would be amazed at all of the shit in the air you breathe (farts contain H2S, if you want to talk about something that is actually lethal)
I brush floss and use a water pick 3 times a day and still have bad gums. Hurts right now
>>767423464
This guy gets it
>>767422976
Its the same cancer that is turning frogs gay
>>767423535
Use parodontax, shit taste tho.
See a dentist ?
>>767423393
natural fluoride is better than the industrial waste they put your water. You're drinking the bi products of industrial waste.
>>767423101
I have no idea but I guess:
>Bacterias are different and you can selectively attack them
>it actually fucks up the gut flora, probably in very small and irrelevant amounts
>that guy is full of shit, and >>767423276 is right
according to wikipedia excessive amounts of fluoride cause fluoritis which is pretty scary, and the WHO says that the limit is 1.5mg/L
>>767420967
same reason weed was illegal everywhere for the longest time, cancer industry makes a shitload of money
>>767423342
>"scary" font
>fiery lines
>red colors of danger
>yellow colors of disease
>staring, threatening eye
obvious propaganda. you got to be a complete idiot to fall for that garbage.
>>767423600
not just the frogs, but the people too. My family only drinks all-american made bottled water blessed by the local pastor, and my kid went to a friend's house and got server tap water. A few months later he came out as gay. That cannot be a coincidence, especially on a house of god. He has been cured though, so no need to worry.
>>767423916
Perhaps your IQ has been DEVASTATED by DEADLY FLUORIDE to the point where you no longer respond appropriately to stimuli?
>>767423916
https://youtu.be/xP7IPDfC3yg
>>767423342
So buy a filter and leave your water in the fridge for 3 days without covering. Another thing you can do is buy none fluoride toothpaste. Since I brush 3 times a day one of those times is always with none fluoride.
>>767424013
Thank god you sent him to one of those gay away camps. They block all of the cell phone radiation and dont use microwaves to really make sure they get all that gay out.
>>767423863
I'm right only because I did a hell of a lot of reading before spending all this money: >>767423223
I too used to think it was just about keeping water quality high and killing bacteria. I treated it like chlorine.
>>767423916
>obvious propaganda
For what? Who benefits from it?
>>767424068
>capitalizing negative words in order to create an emotional response
nice try.
>>767423276
that is its purported dental benefit, yeah
clacium flouride (the flouride in question) calcifies everywhere from teeth and bones (helpful) to the pineal gland (natural producer of DMT)
>>767424151
https://youtu.be/XTWXcVwAtZ0
>>767424395
the meme industry. See e.g. infra.
>>767424452
So doing exactly what the infographic did? Got it.
>>767424151
>i have a youtube video
>that means it's true
>he's right because he's a doctor
>ignores that the majority of other doctors say the research proves it's perfectly fine
there's a reason why scientific consensus matters, and that's because there will always be outliers, but if something is true, most scientists will get the same results and reach the same conclusions.
alex jones is a liar, and this fluoride things is fucking bullshit of the highest order.
>>767424953
If the government really cared about your health they would add essential vitamins and minerals to the water. Not a toxic chemical like fluoride. Makes zero sense
>>767425108
https://youtu.be/xIGyZaW2e8w
>>767424953
I am glad to see this post.
>>767425108
Evidences?
Vitamins dies
Flouride is mineral
>>767425108
The government wants you healthy so you can pay your taxes. A terminally ill person dies in debt, which ultimately ends up burdening everyone else
some of the more extreme claims could well be false in an effort to discredit any argument against flouride, but the facts are
>it is a byproduct of many industries
>it is toxic and therefore expensive to dispose of
>it is dumped into water supplies in many areas and nations
>it calcifies in the body, arguably beneficial for bones and teeth but highly detrimental for eg the brain
>lumps of calcium buildup can prevent the pineal gland from functioning properly
if nothing else, fluoride replaces the calcium in your bones. like your teeth. changing the calcium into fluorine.
hydroxyfluorite (fluorine) is much stronger than hydroxyapatite (calcium)
so just brush your teeth with fluoride, but rinse it out afterwards.
>>767425552
>highly detrimental for eg the brain
True but everything can be poison, depend on the dose.
Give us facts, numbers
and just putting it out there, you can actually buy flouride free toothpaste
>>767425482
the government runs on debt the 1% want you out of there way and dumbed down and docile.
>>767424484
>>767424151
>>767423342
>>767422589
>>767421891
>>767420121
>>767419742
>>767419273
so humans can't handle a bit of fluoride despite most natural water that humans have been drinking for hundreds of thousands of years contain way more fluoride than 0.081 mg per 100 g (a 140 g potato contains 0.078 mg). you have to ingest 10 mg before you get any adverse effects.
>>767424953
>this fluoride things is fucking bullshit of the highest order
It is. If people want fluoride, they can apply it to their teeth themselves. There is no need for every drop people drink to be fluoridated.
Leave it to the powers that be to distribute fluoride in the most inefficient and pollutive way possible.
>>767422400
>Did they wish to have the same perfect face too?
>>767425936
>most natural water that humans have been drinking for hundreds of thousands of years
>A major cause of death for thousands of years when you were more likely to die than live to be fifty
>>767425108
that's dumb as fuck. first of all, fluoride is minerals. and secondly, vitamins A, C, D, E ,K, B2, and B7 are either not soluble in water, or unstable. so, that would clog up the water pipes.
>>767425757
it builds up over time and is very difficult to dislodge, this isn't like an ld50 fora mostly harmless substance
a very small amount ingested multiple times daily would be just as, if not more harmful than a huge dose, rather than building a tolerance like most toxins
>>767426596
water should be iodized if anything. if you don't drink milk, or eat fish often enough, your only source of idodine would be from iodized salt
>>767423863
My guts are already fucked up, but I have coffee, whiskey and poor diet to thank for that.
>>767426750
Then crazy bastards would be screaming about iodine in the water. You can’t win with these guys.
>>767426957
what
take your fish oil kids
>>767424523
ddg.gg/infra_meme
what
give me a quick rundown
>>767426750
idk how it is on america, but where I live most salt is iodized, and since salt is on almost everything you eat it, adding iodine to water is a waste
>>767426194
you could drink 10 liters of water a day with no adverse effects from fluoride, you'd be flushing out electrolytes which is a problem, but that would be caused by the water itself.
fluoride doesn't pollute. even if you dump it straight into the ocean, sea water contains 1.1 mg/l fluoride on average while tap water contains 0.81 mg/l. if anything it's watering out the sea water.
>>767426957
It must suck constantly losing to guys in tin foil hats
>>767427036
fish oil doesn't contain iodine my friend
iodine deficiency is a big deal however. thyroxine, the drug prescribed for hypothyroidism, is the most prescribed drug in america. iodine deficiency leads to hypothyroidism.
>>767427138
>>767427112
>if anything it's watering out the sea water.
What kind of crack are you smoking?
>>767426485
major cause of death was viral and bacterial diseases and infections, and violence. not fluoride. there are a few places where the ground water contains poisonous amounts of fluoride, but that's not very common.
>>767427109
a lot of people use sea salt, which isn't iodized. also, salt used in restaurants typically isn't iodized.
>>767419997
tooth rot is still caused by a lack of care for teeth
>>767427271
Just good natural water, like my ancestors drank from the river
>>767425921
Yeah controlled debt, mass loan defaults trigger crisis. Long term health issues cause unintended financial burdens which ultimately lead to bankruptcies. Get enough of those in a short time and history speaks for itself.
>>767420145
Age? If you're below 40, I'm going to laugh at you. Hard.
Teeth are a bit janky. Ignored them in my youth. Now I brush and floss daily. Chicks dig the fangs though.
>>767427316
and it fucking hurts tbqh fam
3/10 would not recommend
>>767426957
>’
Ah, I see you’re a man of culture as well...
>>767420922
anecdotal.
>>767421604
Don't point that out, they might learn something. Let them keep existing in a world where the government suppresses every cure for every disease, and we only get healthier and live longer so we can GIVE THEM MORE MONEY
>>767427263
it's sarcasm, m8. he was complaining that fluoride in tap water is polluting, but it doesn't because sea water contains more.
>>767427316
op's pic is cancer. it even says it is cancer. not tooth rot.
>>767427422
Monsieur.
>>767418562
>So..He was behind of it...
>>767423313
I forget how much it was to have them pulled and have a set of dentures made. It had to be somewhere around 8-10k. I was poor as fuck at the time, parents bailed me out thankfully. I'm going for two lower implants and just a regular upper denture. All in on that is just shy of 11k. The quote I got for full implants (I think there would have been 5 or 6 total) was over 50k. Part of the reason that option was so high was that they would have had to reshape some of the upper jaw bone so they'd have a good surface to mount the implants to.
Like I said, take care of the teeth you've got.
>>767418562
FUCK YOU THAT WONT HAPPEN TO MY TEETH FAGGOT
>>767422532
take off your tinfoil hat,alex jones
>>767427508
>he was complaining that fluoride in tap water is polluting, but it doesn't because sea water contains more.
So if I dump my trash in the ocean, that's not polluting it because the sea water has a hell of a lot more trash already?
>>767427447
>anecdotal.
Real though. If I can, everyone can. The question is what they need to modify to emulate my case correctly.
An anecdote doesn't prove a rule but it disproves impossibility.
>>767421776
I call bullshit on the diet thing. I eat like shit. Pasta, bread, soda. I smoke weed, I drink on weekends. I'm 24 and I have literally perfect teeth. If it continues to last, it's because of genetics. If not, it's just youth. But my diet is SHIT. My hygiene is pretty decent now, but it wasn't while I was in high school.
So, all in all, I would bet genetics.
>>767427757
are you being stupid on purpose?
>>767419273
eh,i could care less if i get cancer
i drink straight from my sink,i stick my head under the faucet and drink up
so what if i get poisoned
>>767422063
That's my favorite part. My dad got diabetes, and got himself EVERYTHING sugar free. He's going to town on sugar free candy, soda, sweetener on his cereal. We had to get his doctor to explain to him that it was actually much much worse than just plain old sugar and he would actually have to cut back. LOL people just want to indulge all the time
>>767427814
>24
okkid.png
I thought I was invincible too at that age. In a few years, shit is going to change. Enjoy it while it lasts.
>>767428001
Avoiding the question on purpose?
>>767427814
>genetics
Fellow non-brusher here. I'm relatively old. Poor losers should research us for exact metabolic pathways responsible for this and develop therapies that cure their biological defect.
No other animal needs to brush teeth.
>>767428028
this, drinking from the garden hose is part of my cultural heritage
water supply flouridation is pure culturecide
>>>/x/ tinfoilfags
>>767428445
can't handle the jandal?
>>767424395
Anyone with some caca-meme "alternative" medicine to sell you. The same people who have had plenty of opportunities to prove their claims, but never do. Even with publication bias, there's just no evidence for alternative medicine.
>>767428285
animals don't need to brush because they dont eat a diet with any simple sugars.
if you literally consume no simple sugars, you wouldn't have to brush your teeth either.
the bacteria in your mouth break down sucrose, glucose, fructose into lactic acid.
if you consume complex sugars, even lactose which is in milk, the bacteria in your mouth cannot digest them. so no tooth decay.
>>767428445
Not conspiracy theorist. I don't brush out of convenience and non-conformism. I've never given thought to fluoride.
>>767428028
how much less could you care?
>>767426738
Bio accumulation doesn't happen with fluoride. Fluorine is a gas, not a heavy metal.
>>767428931
fluoride is not a gas.
it does accumulate in bones though, because it displaces calcium
>>767428675
I eat plenty of sweets though. Used to drink gallons of sugar Coke in the past too.
>lactose
Also switched to lactose-free milk recently because milk from my country gives me diarrhoea due to shit quality. (I know it's shit quality and not lactose intolerance because I can digest raw milk straight from the cow with no issues. Have drunk ordinary milk in another country with no issues too.)
Maybe my high consumption of meat is what protects my teeth somehow.
>>767427354
>>767427354
You mean that same water that killed them when that bear left a deer carcass upstream? You know, that carcass that rotted and polluted the stream with bacteria for weeks?
>>767428931
>Fluoride accumulates in the pineal gland more than any other organ and leads to the formation of phosphate crystals. As your pineal gland hardens due to the crystal production, less melatonin is produced and regulation of your wake-sleep cycle gets disturbed.
you'll probably brush the source off as new age psuedoscience, but this
>>767428931
That's rather contrary to what the experts say.
Fluoride is not the same as Fluorine, so I don't know why you mention it.
>>767418562
this is cancer tho
>>767418988
/thread
>>767423276
sodium flouride=/=calcium floride
>>767428081
Nobody said I was invincible, or that it would last. In fact, I said;
>if not, it's just youth
Stop being angry at young people and parroting what your parents said to you just because you were a shithead at my age.
>>767429091
perhaps you have more basic saliva. if your saliva can buffer the pH change from the bacteria in your mouth, then it won't cause any problems.
the issue is that once you get a cavity started, saliva has difficulty getting into the surface where the decay is happening, so the acid gets to fully react with your tooth.
basically, in acid, the chemicals making up your teeth dissolve and flow away.
so perhaps you have fewer acid-producing bacteria, or you have more basic saliva
if you were to swish orange juice in your mouth, and not drink any water for 30 minutes or so, you'd have pretty serious decay occurring. maybe experiment to see what the cause is.
>>767429433
>what are ionic compounds
>>767429091
also, a neat thing is that the enzyme your body produces to break down lactose (lactase enzyme) is upregulated if you consume more lactose. it takes a while, but your body alter the production of lactase depending on how regularly you consume lactose.
so, you could drink normal lactose-containing milk if you do it in small amounts and slowly ramp up. you just have to re-acclimate your body to consuming lactose regularly, and your body will produce more of the enzyme to break it down.
>>767428675
That's not entirely true. You're right that sugars are compounding the problem, but plenty of animals eat fruit, so it can't be simple sugars that are the problem. The problem is compound sugars. Carbs. Pasta, bread, beer. A tiny bit of pasta on a tooth provides the same food for bacteria as a heap of sugar, but it sticks better.
At least that's my understanding. Could be more to it.
>>767429118
The bear couldn't have killed them, it was dead.
What killed them was the wrath of evil spirits, for they did not burn enough offerings.
>>767420686
>Do you think water just stays fresh forever sitting in rusty old underground pipes?
do you know why the water in Flint is so bad?
because; unlike 50 years ago when clean, fresh water was running inside of the pipes, the water is taken from the Flint River and treated with chemicals including chlorine and fluoride. these extremely corrosive chemicals leech lead out of the pipes
>>767429812
powerful thing, the placebo effect
>>767423393
sodium fluoride or calcium fluoride?
>>767429204
Fluoride is literally one of the monoatomic ions of fluorine. What the fuck are you talking about? It's just one fluorine atom with a negative charge.
Fucking idiots don't even bother to Google something.
>>767429134
What kind of fluoride? Organofluorides? I can't really brush off a source that you're not providing. Greentext is hardly a source.
>>767429814
>these extremely corrosive chemicals leech lead out of the pipes
People have drank leaded water for years, it's perfectly fine, perfectly natural
>>767429792
the problem is simple sugars, but you're not incorrect in saying carbohydrates are problems also.
fruit eating animals have different bone structure and saliva composition, as well.
but the thing about carbohydrates is that humans produce amylase in their saliva. amylase breaks down carbs into simple sugars, which the bacteria can ferment into lactic acid.
so carbs aren't strictly an issue if you rinse your mouth out after eating them, whereas simple sugars are immediately a problem because they will be digested by bacteria as soon as they come into contact with them.
>>767430095
now that would explain a few things
>>767428105
your example was dumb af. if you take a liter of water with ten spoons of salt and mix it with another liter of water that has only one spoon of salt the result you'll get is water that is less salty than the first liter and saltier than the second liter. which is what happens if you pour water with less fluoride into a body of water that has more fluoride.
your comparison would be the same as taking a liter of water with ten spoons of water and adding just a spoon of salt without any water. the result would be saltier water. so your comparison was stupid because it ignored the water that is mixed with the fluoride. it's depressing to have to explain to you how water works.
>>767422400
>Do American like ultra white teeth because it shows they are """"rich""" ?
mass media constantly pushed the meme that we NEED perfectly straight and pearly white teeth in order to be considered a normal person. thats why even financially struggling parents will often get their kids braces
>Did they wish to have the same perfect face too ?
idk, how many people get elective [plastic] surgery every year to change a feature of their face?
>>767429443
Interesting.
>maybe experiment to see what the cause is.
How? By bathing my teeth in orange juice for 30 minutes? How would I determine acute decay from this experiment? Wouldn't such exposure be dangerous to everyone's teeth, not just mine?
Admittedly, I rarely drink anything more than only mildly sour (be it acidic or alcaline). I imagine my teeth would start aching from that experiment.
Here's another little fun fact: when I was young and brushed my teeth regularly, my teeth were sensitive to cold (for example ice cream). This is no more the case. Could it be due to non-brushing?
>MFW suddenly need to solve 10 captchas every time instead of 2
>>767419273
News flash
I may not be the greatest at math but 0.25 < 0.4 you know why? Because that's not .04 (4 percent) that's .40( 40 percent)
And 40% > 25% srsly this stupid.
>>767429007
So are oxygen and CO2 not gasses? Just because they're dissolved in water, they're no longer gasses? Fluoride is a negative ion of fluorine. It's pure fluorine. If you want to pretend fluorine isn't a gas, go ahead, but you're not very bright.
>>767428593
>>767419607
Tbh it's not just tooth brushing but also genetics and diet. By the way what do you do for your breath?
in conclusion: fluoride conspiratards got btfo
>>767429726
Thanks. Though I wrote "not from lactose intolerance".
>>767430229
but it's not tap water they dump into oceans, it's the highly concentrated stuff right from the industrial waste exit pipe, the stuff that costs a lot of money to ethically dispose of
>>767429812
Praise be!
>>767428800
not much
i have no value for my life or saftey at all so if i get cancer,big deal
i'll just die faster,yay!
*smile turns into frown,then shrugs shoulders in hopelessness*
whatever...
>>767429483
exactly my point
>>767430438
that's a different deal. that's just industrial pollution at that point. and that's why more regulation is a good thing.
>>767430098
Ah, good point, I didn't think about that. I guess the real point is, if people drank more water, and rinsed out their mouths after eating, they'd be better off.
>>767430319
the gas isn't relevant. hydrogen chloride is a gas too, but when it's dissolved in water it disassociates into ions. we're not talking about atomic fluorine, we're talking about ionic fluoride.
fluorine isn't an ion, fluoride is. elemental chlorine has different effects from ionic chloride in solution, as does fluorine and fluoride.
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>>767430548
going back up this reply tree a bit
>fluoride doesn't pollute. even if you dump it straight into the ocean, sea water contains 1.1 mg/l fluoride on average while tap water contains 0.81 mg/l. if anything it's watering out the sea water.
that sounds very relevant to me
tap water dumping isn't the problem here
![Fluorite_crystals_(Cullen_Hall_of_Gems_and_Minerals)[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gyDqKK9.jpg "Fluorite_crystals_(Cullen_Hall_of_Gems_and_Minerals)[1].jpg")
>>767430710
seriously, i bought this rock, and all my frogs are so fucking gay now.
>>767430098
>so carbs aren't strictly an issue if you rinse your mouth out after eating them, whereas simple sugars are immediately a problem because they will be digested by bacteria as soon as they come into contact with them.
So maybe what protects my teeth is the fact that I drink much more liquids than everyone else. Always at least 0.5L.
I hate eating anything without plenty of COLD drink. I'll never comprehend the "dry" morons who don't...
>>767430579
100%
if you rinse your mouth out well after eating anything, you're going to be better off than if you just let it sit on your teeth.
same logic with people chewing gum after eating. just dislodging the sugars and carbs from the surface.
>>767419273
Uhm, I'm pretty sure the reason why you should seek medical advice is not that it contains fluoride.
It's because toothpaste contains a tiny amount of detergent.
>>767429972
>Fucking idiots don't even bother to Google something
Sodium fluoride put in tapwater is not the same thing as fluorine. Changing the atomic charge changes substances.
>>767424953
Fuck this guy
>>767430095
not true. people have been using lead to carry and transport water for thousands of years, which is perfectly safe because pure water does not leech lead. water with chlorine/fluoride does
>>767430276
true. the only thing you'd find out is "hey my teeth are stronger" or "oh fuck my teeth are rotting" which isn't all that useful.
perhaps you could brush like half of your teeth and see if you can notice any difference in sensitivity, or decay, etc.
what country are you from? in the UK they have a product called "novamin" which is what they call a bioactive glass. it actually reacts with your teeth to form a literal surface of non-reactive glass on them, sealing the enamel from bacteria.
they don't sell it in america though, because toothpaste can only have one active chemical in it, which is typically fluoride.
>>767431111
quads checked
>>767430395
>By the way what do you do for your breath?
No one reports smelly mouth from me. (And of course I can't smell anything from myself either.)
My teeth aren't very white but their grey shade was confirmed by the dentist to be natural. There is some dirt buildup but it goes away when I do brush once in a blue moon.
>>767430670
That's fine. If you want to discuss the different effects it can have, that's worthwhile. But suggesting that something like fluoride can bio-accumulate like that, when there's zero evidence for it is stupid.
Bioaccumulation occurs when the body can't remove a certain chemical. There's a reason heavy metals are much more inclined to stick around in your system than gasses.
>>767430229
>so your comparison was stupid because it ignored the water that is mixed with the fluoride
Except that it didn't. It was ridiculing the fact that it's okay to dump a bunch of chemicals in the ocean, because the chemical is already in the ocean. That doesn't mean it's good to add more, even if it is more diluted. That water will evaporate anyway as part of the water cycle.
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>>767431224
nice reddit spacing you have there
>>767431224
>novamin
Not Brit but close enough. I'll look it up, thanks.
>>767431621
>4chan style police
Go back to 4chan.
>>767431544
cystal buildup in a gland isn't the same as chemical buildup in the bloodstream
>>767431020
Doesn't change the fact that fluoride won't bioaccumulate like heavy metals. Doesn't change the fact that the reason for this is fluorine is a very light, very reactive gas.
>>767431621
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>>767431280
this, my teeth are pretty bad but last time I was with a girl she didn't seem to care at all
probably tasted more like rum and tobacco tbh, we both nasty so whatever
>>767430279
What has any of this to do with percentages?
>>767431544
what you say is totally correct. if you didn't have any bones, fluoride would pass through your body very quickly because it's water soluble. it has nowhere to be stored.
however, ionic fluoride displaces ionic calcium. as an example, in your bones. your bones are made of "hydroxyapatite" which has calcium in the chemical structure. fluoride reacts with hydroxyapatite in a displacement reaction, resulting in hydroxyfluorite. you then excrete the calcium.
your bones are constantly being broken down and reconstructed by osteoblasts and osteoclasts. when this happens, the hydroxyfluorite is decomposed and rebuilt with hydroxyapatite. the fluoride is then released into your bloodstream to be excreted, or reacts again to displace calcium.
so the issue is that the fluoride is stored in your bones over a relatively long period of time, and slowly excreted. so you get a relatively constant blood level of fluoride with regular exposure.
all that being said, it's not a big deal, and fluoridating water is probably a good thing, as well as using fluoride toothpaste. i'm just playing devils advocate here because your logic isn't 100% sound.
>>767431111
>not true
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>>767431621
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>>767431712
it's actually pretty fucking neat, the novamin. i'm studying chemical engineering with a biomolecular focus, and i've been researching bioactive glasses.
i've used the toothpaste before, and anecdotally when you brush your teeth you can actually feel a sort of crunchy grit before you spit it out. after using it for a week or so, your teeth get really slick and hard. you quit getting a filmy feeling on them when eating sugary foods. since it's a hard shell on your teeth, you don't have to actually use it all that often to preserve the layer once you've established it.
frankly it's going to be revolutionary in medicine as more bioactive glasses come out. they can use them to glue bones together, because the glass is inert and your body won't reject it.
>>767431714
If you understand that, you must also realize that average tapwater concentrations of fluoride won't lead to that.
The person I was arguing with was acting like fluoride in tap water was like lead, and it just builds and builds. That's only the case if the concentration is too high, which it isn't in most places.
>>767430710
Thank you for posting this image, I have been wondering what the mineral formation under the fluorite crystal was for years.
>>767432394
Awesome. I've always wanted to be a cyborg, so will definitely ask my pharmacist.
>>767432023
Fair enough. I reread my posts, and I agree, I wasn't totally making sense. I was just trying to make the point that it's not like a heavy metal, where small doses eventually build to a larger overall dose.
>>767431776
The whole reason it's used is so that it can form a bond with other minerals hardening the enamel of your teeth
Research shows it does accumulate in other parts of the body as well
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/913074/
>>767428328
Then you drink from that hose and you fuckin’ enjoy it bro.
I'll just leave this digital amulet here.
This is to protect this thread from prying eyes of normalfags.
>>767432459
You have to also take into account the fluoride in dental products though. Admittedly I don't know much about biology but I was under the impression that any amount of fluoride indirectly leads to phosphate crystal formation in the pineal gland, which is something that isn't easily flushed out and leads to an accumulative effect correlating regular flouride consumption and depressed pineal gland function.
I found a research paper on the effects of fluoride on the pineal gland summarized here with source links if you are interested.
http://fluoridefree.org.nz/fluoride-interferes-pineal-gland-function/
I'm not able to effectively argue at this level of technicality, my knowledge of biology is gnereally limited to drugs and some neurotransmitters.
>>767433027
I will matey, it's the kiwi way
He will not fluoride us.
He will not fluoride us.
He will not fluoride us.
He will not fluoride us.
He will not fluoride us.
>>767419607
Yeah I haven't brushed in years and have of odontophobia, my teeth are fukt, even worse than a bristish meth head
>>767434213
Pics plsssss
I haven't brushed in over 10 years.
i floss every day, and try to brush twice a day. more often than i care to admit i fall asleep before brushing.
i had braces and wear a retainer every night so my teeth are still very straight.
>>767418562
Why is everyone bitching about fluoride. Run tap water through a filter and don't swallow fucking toothpaste spit. It's not that fucking hard people.
>>767434586
Me too, man. I've tried getting into brushing, but I always fucking forget too. Thinking of trying to start small, once a month, and then work up to daily.
>>767434213
>>767434586
>I haven't ... in years
I've always thought we say "I have ... for years", therefore also "I haven't ... for years".
#TodayILearned
>>767434808
because we shouldn't have to go lengths like using expensive filters (activated carbon is not effective at defluoritading) to remove something we didn't consent to have in our drinking water
>>767435069
there's loads you didn't consent to. those who came before you make choices that affect you. this is a consequence of society.
you didn't consent to speed limits, nor taxes, etc.
>>767434746
My teeth are becoming crooked as Hilary.
But I'm so sexy I don't need to be pretty.
>>767435297
Same.
Worst case scenario I'll save up and get my teeth replaced.
>>767435069
69 get. We shouldn't have too you are right but I bought Burkey water filter just in case and before that was drinking tap water no problem. Until shit gets fixed, save a little money and do yourself a favor
>>767435371
i've thought about this. wouldn't it be fucking sweet if you could get your teeth peeled out and get stainless steel teeth put in? like, you don't have to clean them, they don't rot, you can chew up basically anything.
>>767435282
speed limits and taxes are things that most well informed people woulld agree with
noone ever consented to fluoridation, it causes more harm than good and only benefits the companies that need to dispose of their fluoride as industrial waste
>>767435482
I figure, by the time I'll have to worry about it, there will be something to fix it.
>>767431280
do you ever eat sugar or acidic beverages or fruit?
>>767420121
HOLY FUCK
Wanna know something else - they put DI-HYDROGEN OXIDE in the water. WAKE UP SHEEPLE..
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>>767435833
so we're back here agin?
>>767435781
Sugar: yes. Nothing excessively sour (be it acidic or alkaline). No juice. Watered-down juice drinks: yes. Virtually no fruit and no veggies in my diet. Also no tea or coffee. Plenty of meat, dairy, starches and sugary sweets, mostly chocolate and cakes. I don't smoke or drink alcohol. No heroin, amphetamine or cocaine.
More: >>767420922 and >>767429091.
>>767435781
Also I drink more liquids with my meals than almost everyone. It may be a big factor.
More: >>767430886
>>767429814
>Chlorine
>Chemical
Are you dumb? Chlorine is a element.
>>767434939
I brush intermittently but honestly I forget too. My gums bleed even from biting into bread. How are your teeth/gums doing?
>>767436982
My gums bleed slightly on occasions when I brush teeth. Nothing painful and it goes away if I commit to brushing for several consecutive days. But of course I never do it.
t. "once in a blue moon"
>>767437450
I guess as long as you don’t smoke or drink much tea, your teeth will look fine right?
>>767436982
My teeth and gums are alright, I think. You might want to get your gums checked out though, that bread thing sounds pretty bad.
>>767418562
Hey gals - would you tongue kiss this guy?
>>767437542
They could look better but – cosmetic issues aside – are healthy. Not looking terribly either. But my standards may be low.
>>767437598
It’s only occasionally that they bleed but I still think you’re right. Even if the dentist only tells me to brush more often.
i just brush my teeth once a week if i remember. i usually drink soda before i go to sleep anyways so it wont make a difference
>>767437705
Could be better is fine. As long as you’re not self-conscious about anything is what matters.
>>767419826
>bleach
Don't do this.
>>767418562
I really should be brushing...
I apparently have inflamed gums, and since I chew on one side of my mouth, I get plaque buildup on the opposite side. I rarely get cavities. Not flossing is a contributing factor.
I wash out my mouth with some kind of hexadine compound that stings and feels awful but if it helps my mouth, I don't care since it's just 30 seconds of mouthwashing.
>>767438333
brushing your teeth strips away the enamel and causes cavities, don't fall for (((dentistry)))
>>767438437
But it also takes away the plaque.
I'll fall for chemistry instead. Fluoride in toothpaste bonds with enamel to make a stronger compound than regular, non-fluoride enamel. I don't brush because it's way top fuckin inconvenient.
If you don't swallow the toothpaste, you WILL be fine anyway.
>>767430710
>fluorite
>fluoride
one of these is not like the other
>>767438726
>doesn't swallow
>>767425747
This, for fucks sake, this
>>767428675
This anon is dropping knowledge, fags
>>767419607
You must not eat much sugar lol. I've a friend who never brushed and his teeth are noticeably discoloured and fucked looking. He's only 24.
>>767441082
and nicotine?
and caffeine?
and genetics
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> my teeth all went in a blaze of ..finding Dory
>>767422606
At average americans actually have worse teeth than brits...
>>767441566
He smokes and drinks energy drinks too, and boozes a lot. I do all that as well though, minus energy drinks and but I brush every night and I never had a problem.
>>767418562
i havent brushed for years. my teeth are in terrible shape. im a bit of a hillbilly and only shower 2 times a week, thats the only time i remember to brush. i have a horrible fear of the dentist too, soo... i never go.
guys, please brush your teeth. you'll regret it when your 35
