What's really important, /b/? I feel like I'm turning
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
What's really important, /b/?
I feel like I'm turning into a conservative.
Am I weird for thinking that we should preserve a specific way of american life?
>>752105479
it's important that you stop following kids on the street.
You're getting woke. Welcome back to sanity.
I used to bike around with my friends in the late afternoon through the neighborhood. Do kids do that anymore?
>>752105550
Is that real though?
Was that ever how people really lived? Or is it a fake tale about how we're SUPPOSED to live?
>>752105479
what's really important is people being free and happy without a bunch of other jackoffs trying to change that.
moving towards more conservatism is normal in many places, because as people age, they tend to get wider exposure to all the different types of people and lifestyles in the world, and they usually become scared little fucking pussies about it. so congratulations on becoming a scared little pussy who clings on to their "good old days" instead of just sucking it up and moving on into the future, you backwards-ass cumlord.
>>752105550
>>752105772
This, but delivered less like an edgy underage faggot.
Was your family ever like this?
>>752105479
Take into account that your conservativism may be generated through constant shitposting by /pol/.
If you've got a good reason at hand why you do then go ahead - conservatisim isn't necessary evil, but it has the potential to be.
>What's really important, /b/?
For me it's doing something which matters and ideally has something to do with space exploration. And having a family at some point.
>>752105479
Honestly, yes, that ideal is doomed to die. The world just becomes more and more connected and global and there is fuck all you can do about it except whine. Best bet is just hope it happens in a way that doesn’t cause too much shit.
>>752105917
..omg tell me that's a shoop
>>752105479
Since you are american, you are a kike.
>>752105760
Nah, it's real. When I was a kid, we'd say "I'm going out to play," and mom would say, "come back when the street lights come on." Literally every kid in the neighborhood did the same thing and heard the same thing. We were white middle class kids, and the world seemed mostly safe. Now I have a couple of kids, and if you did this you'd be charged with child abuse.
>>752105623
No. And you probably didn't wear a helmet.
>>752105772
I think your "point" implicitly suggests that liberals tend to be inexperienced, underaged faggots.
>>752105479
Not weird, just dumb. Which, again, is not weird (specially in the USA).
Don't worry, just be glad that dumb people like you get to literally run the world.
>>752105772
backwards-ass cumlord is a funny thing to put into writing and say with your mouth.
but it's really insipid and meaningless.
Could we ever return to a time where our discourse is polite and intelligent?
>>752106056
Well you have to find a balance between the influence of the modern world and your own ideals.
It's not like you don't have control over it - just if you give up on it because "that's just how todays world is" or you've missed certain spots in child upbringing where certain damage cannot be undone.
If you've got kids at some point then enforce some rules which you find important. Have them put their smart phone away when you're eating and punish them for cursing - stuff like that.
>>752105479
But here's the red pill. Conservatives TALK about preserving traditional values but their actions don't actually preserve anything. Kind of like a priest preaching about morality then diddling your kid.
Being as non miserable as you can be is the point. It's important to take care of yourself and your fam. If you have to kill others to ensure that, then that's what you have to do.
>>752105623
Because they choose not to. Do you want to take away freedom to enforce your nostalgia on other people? You can't make your kid be you. Only selfish narcissists try. Go watch Dead Poets Society.
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>>752105944
I'm not trying to pretend like I've been religious/moral/ top notch this whole time.
I don't believe in nationalism/patriotism.
I don't even have kids.
Isn't there a real childhood, a basic experience we should all be having in order to make us the best adults we can be? An ideal we can all follow regardless of upbringing/race/class?
The human being is conservative, just accept that. We must join changes but with much caution, that's the golden mean concept of Aristotle.
>>752106531
sounds like Mafia to me
>>752106772
>Isn't there a basic childhood experience
Well psychologists have narrowed good and productive upbringing to some points. If you want to understand how to make it right you'll have to do some reading, but i guess the baseline is encourage positive behavior, discourage negative behavior and help the child develop a decent personality.
Good become a conservative , and stop being a fucking snowflake faggot
>>752106398
Jokes on you most Christian priests are democrats
I hate anarchists. They think it's a struggle to bring it all down.
The real struggle is maintaining it up.
It takes each and every one of us to maintain civilization. Every day.
We could easily rescind to dumb beasts.
>>752106977
there are no snowflake faggots you edgelord
>>752106772
Sure, there is. The “conformity through obedience” mentality of the 1950s is hardly the ideal, though. You are looking back on a fantasy created by baby boomers and older generations who believe those were the good old days. Just like 90s kids think the 90s were the coolest thing ever. Just like the next generation growing up right now will talk about how the the 2010s were the simpler times.
Things are going to change. Hopefully they will change for the better. Resisting change by clinging to a way of life that can no longer be is the epitome of being a Luddite.
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>>752106975
Oh, yea i forgot an important point:
Be a good role model. Most of the things kids learn is a copy of their parents behavior, if you teach your son not to curse but curse yourself it's not going to work.
>>752107049
>anarchists
I don’t think you know what that means
>>752105479
>>752105479
>>752105479
All you need to do is ask yourself what way of american life from the past was so perfect you think youre going to preserve it. Then actually read shit from that magical winderful utopian era, and realize what an utter shitslinging hellhole it was for most people, and realize that if you want a better way of life, its in the future, not the past, and you have to build it. Sitting in your hands trying to preserve what is comfortable only ensyres you will be left behind. The people in your favored golden era all worked to improve this countrys way of life away from and out of that time, and youre just being pathetic and lazy by being unable to fit in to your own time and trying to bring bsck an old one where you think you’ll belong. Youre in fantasyland. Learn to adapt to a rapidly changing society or go live in a mud hut in Nigeria.
>>752107399
Thanks for enlightening me.
>>752105479
No you’re just becoming normal.
>>752107541
Anarchists are people who believe in democratic relationships of power rather than hierarchal relationships.
>>752106203
not on /b
once again youre inventing a rost version of the past that never existed and “trying to get back to it”. gtfo back to your pointless suburban tract housing shit-hoarding daytime television life where its safe and at the end of every episide, everything is back to the way it was and no scary change ever threatens you like the darkies on the news.
>>752107622
>>752107489
>>752107371
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>>752107005
There is a real moral compass out there.
And it's not religion based.
And we've forgotten it.
And, optimistically, we can get back to it.
That's my conservatice moral stance.
>>752107005
jokes on you, because you posted that.
>>752107877
jesus christ im taoking to a fucking child
>>752107877
Nov. 14, 1960 six-year-old Ruby Bridges was escorted by a team of U.S. Deputy Marshals as she integrated William Frantz Elementary School in New Orleans. She became the first African-American child to attend an all-white elementary school in the South.
Ruby Bridges: "Driving up I could see the crowd, but living in New Orleans, I actually thought it was Mardi Gras. There was a large crowd of people outside of the school. They were throwing things and shouting, and that sort of goes on in New Orleans at Mardi Gras."
As soon as Bridges entered the school, white parents pulled their own children out; all the teachers refused to teach while a black child was enrolled. Only one person agreed to teach Ruby and that was Barbara Henry, from Boston, Massachusetts, and for over a year Henry taught her alone, "as if she were teaching a whole class."
That first day, Bridges and her adult companions spent the entire day in the principal's office; the chaos of the school prevented their moving to the classroom until the second day. Every morning, as Bridges walked to school, one woman would threaten to poison her; because of this, the U.S. Marshals dispatched by President Eisenhower, who were overseeing her safety, allowed Ruby to eat only the food that she brought from home.
This is conservatism. This is the moral compass of the past.
>>752107767
Don't be daft. Discourse was actually a thing. even on the internet.
We can and will be civil.
>>752107877
Remember the good ol' days before the Millienials took over? You know, when the world was a safe place? And you didn't have to worry about your children playing in the neighborhood?
<<In the long term, violent crime in the United States has been in decline since colonial times. The homicide rate has been estimated to be over 30 per 100,000 people in 1700, dropping to under 20 by 1800, and to under 10 by 1900.
After World War II, crime rates increased in the United States, peaking from the 1970s to the early 1990s. Violent crime nearly quadrupled between 1960 and its peak in 1991. Property crime more than doubled over the same period. Since the 1990s, however, crime in the United States has declined steeply.>>
Humans are paranoid by nature. In the information age it's easy to see everything happening across the entire world, you hear about something bad happening in another country or up to 3000 miles away in your own country and feel it like it's your own neighborhood. In "the good ol days" you didn't hear about every bad thing happening.
If you want a happier life get off the internet, go outside into your own neighborhood, greet your neighbors, do community activities, take care of the people around you.
>>752108050
What's the moral compass of the now?
We're just going to keep spitting old shit?
>>752108305
leaded gasoline and paint was the cause in the spike in crime and the eventual decline when they outlawed it.
>>752108305
Remember the good old days back when America was "great again" and teens didn't get into trouble with boys/girls and partyng and alcohol?
<<the portion that had tried alcohol plummeted from 93 percent between 1976 and 1979 to 67 percent between 2010 and 2016>>
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/social-issues/neither-drinking-nor-driving-more-teens-are-putting-off-traditional-markers-of-adulthood/2017/09/18/b46027a0-93f1-11e7-8754-d478688d23b4_story.html?utm_term=.cbc87eee78ec
Aren't today's kids just morally depraved? Don't they drink and have sex more than previous generations?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2016/08/16/millennials-are-having-less-sex-than-other-gens-but-experts-say-its-probably-fine/
>>752108374
Please never talk about adult matter ever again.
>>752108050
Anon, do you have any idea how much damage ending segregation did to both white and black people?
How hard raising multiple generations of niglets in white schools where their primary role models were white people destroyed the black identity?
>>752108305
wtfithefuckareyoutalkingabout
Millenials have not taken over yet
Abortion solved a lot of crime
stop having kids you don't want.
start raising kids you did
>>752105479
Im not even american and i believe everybody should preserve their way of life.
>>752106975
This most people have their kids shoved so far up their ass now a days the kids only influence is shit and they wonder why they have fucked up personalities and mental problems. People need to teach their kids by letting them learn and experience new things independently or they will grow up being dependent pieces of shit.
>>752105479
You are just growing up. Your values change as you start thinking about family, a home and start working.
>>752105479
Are you weird?
Yes, all ways of life change. Globalism will end western/european democracy and there's nothing we can do about it.
This unfortunately means life will get a lot shittier for everyone.
If you're not a liberal by the time you're 20 you've got no heart.
If you're not a conservative by the time you're 40 you've got no brain.
>>752105479
>I feel like I'm turning into a conservative.
i feel like i should tell you to kill yourself or fuck off back to /pol/, you cancerous faggot.
>>752108332
What moral compass was there in the past? There wasn’t one. People were just winging it, just like now. The most fucked up atrocities in all of history happened in the “good old days”. Where was the “moral compass” during the Holocaust?
>>752108389
No they are degenerate basement dwellers now
>>752107489
what are you progressing towards though? the womens liberation movement was meant to be great for women but now it means they can't be stay at home moms living off of one income.
no fault divorce meant children were being raised without fathers, women turned into literal sex objects because they're not worth marrying.
the anti-bullying movement made children soft and unable to communicate a difference of opinion without feeling "attacked" and turning every exchange of ideas into a shit slinging match
anti-slavery fixed nothing for black americans, they're mostly still poor or still kept by whitey.
the clean energy movement raised the cost of electricity.
immigration in the past was done on relatively small scale to the current population and then the gates closed so immigrants could assimilate they haven't closed for a long time. and immigrants are not assimilating
so what changes should i be happy about? gay marriage? when the biggest celebration of your lifestyle choice is dressing up as a female clown and wipping your dick out at passers by, they should have stayed on the list for mental illness.
change for the sake of change is bullshit, change without any idea or consideration of where it leads is the limited foresight of the 'useful idiot'.
everyone now is a fuckin idiot they see something and they go 'why is he wrong about this' not 'why am i wrong about this' before voicing their opinion.
>>752108611
Quit being presumptuous.
I've been working forever. I didn't start a family. My home is wherever I make it.
"Growing up" is a parent's fairy tale for their kids so they don't give handjobs to strangers.
>>752105479
Yea. It's pretty weird man. You should be looking to enrich it. Look to the future. But keep defending the 'real' important parts. Those things are always a bit different for everybody even when it's the same goddamned thing.
>>752108944
If we could just go back to the good old days when people were moral and women had to wear scold masks when they spoke out of line.
That’s the ethical framework of the past.
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>>752105479
No destroy every facet of civilization whose fruits we reap everyday
>>752108778
What if you don't have either?
Wait a minute...
Are you telling me that THIS is not normal?
>pic related
>>752108944
The holocaust was mostly mercy killings,
>>752107763
your anarchist explanation is wrong, your picture is more wrong.
anarchy is no systems of control .
capitalism is the individuals control of the means of production ie; you control yourself and where you work and for how much.
>>752109312
enraged progressive detected
progress just for progress sake is often nothing but regress.
And judging by the developments of the past decade - race segregation, leftist fake news, open call for violence against those who disagree with the mainstream, we have regressed pretty far already.
race-baiting regressives will likely cause the next civil war.
Good job, m8.
>>752109356
then you rather shouldn't vote.
>>752105623
Nah, kids dont really do that shit anymore. I still ride around on my bike to friends but thats just because im broke.
>>752109453
Anarchism is a method of organizing society democratically.
In capitalism, a minority of individuals own the means of production while the rest of us sell ourselves to them by the hour.
>>752105479
>Am I weird for thinking that we should preserve a specific way of american life?
its a Sisyphean task, culture will change whether you want it or not,
"conservatives" are not even the same people as in the past either.
>>752107192
This image makes me wonder why some women seem to dislike glass ceilings, I think they're rather nifty.
Just watching the bullshit on this thread reminds me that we've lost a touch of civility.
All of 4chan reminds me we've lost some civility.
Just a bunch of hatepost after jokepost after hatepost.
Conservatism to me is civility. You guys seem to have forgotten it.
>>752105479
I feel like our society needs to become more like late 80s/early 90s America in terms of art and culture, only with weed and gay marriage legalized.
>>752109783
>anarchism
>belief in the abolition of all government and the organization of society on a voluntary, cooperative basis without recourse to force or compulsion.
democracy means to vote on something and ENFORCE the majorities vote.
Anarchy believes in the abolition of all authority-force.
Anarchy does not deploy democratic societal systems.
Anarchy promotes nothing but the simple philosophy "might makes right"
Anarchy is not a form of organizing society.
Anarchy is - like Atheism is to religion - the absence of any form of societal organization whatsoever.
The result is people having no rights, since no one protects them.
"Personal Rights" / "privileges" under Anarchy are the direct result of the amount of firepower and military capability a individual / group of individuals can muster.
The result are raiding militias, treating the people they encounter as slaves / cattle / servants, unless they themselves can defend themselves as well.
the ogical conclusion over time is the formation of new nations out of the ashes anarchy left behind.
propagating anarchy is not propagating an alternative form of society.
Propagating anarchy is tantamount to propagating a reset and reformation of current societies by violent, possibly catastrophic means.
Anarchy is pure societal destruction.
Deal with it.
>>752110317
what if we manually rewire human brains?
>>752110442
we can't, hence this is fairy-tale land.
>>752109300
>scold mask
Dude, I unironically believe these "scold mask" are a great idea.
Not only for women, I'm not sexist
>>752110317
This is what I meant earlier.
Anarchists just want to bring it all down. Easy cheese. Thoughtless destruction.
The thing is barely standing anyway.
We need basic standards. To be upheld and rebelled against in small ways. But the standard shall remain.
>>752107763
Communism: The government owns everything and a 100% of the time you have to do what they say. DUMBASS!
>>752110520
Censorship is *-------*
>>752105550
This
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>>752105479
Good things need to be preserved. The liberals have this idea that if everyone doesn't have (insert good thing here), then it must be destroyed or ruined to make things "fair."
>>752109783
someone else responded to anarchism and did a really good job, so i'll respond to your explanation for capitalism.
people are the means of production if you're in a capitalist society no one can control you and be capitalist.
>>752110947
what kind of bullshit tabloid scare tactic paranoia fodder have you been reading?
>>752105479
No, you're not weird. You're worthless trash who should be purged.
>>752109783
>In capitalism, a minority of individuals own the means of production while the rest of us sell ourselves to them by the hour.
>a minority of individuals own the means of production
>[we] sell ourselves to them by the hour.
Do they own us, or do they rent us?
Choose one, retard.
You can decide who you rent your labor to.
You can decide to open your own business and rent others labor instead.
No law is keeping you from being a employee to become an employer.
This society is not class-based, since individuals can navigate and choose freely which class they want to belong to.
Hence there is no "worker-class" identity to unite. Your todays' employer can go bankrupt tomorrow and join you as employee, while your colleague might start his own business the day after.
And if you don't like the way you being bossed around (while being paid for it), you can quit your job and look for a new one whenever you like.
Capitalism is the individuals freedom to control their own labor.
Communism takes this freedom away.
Workers, unite! (in slavery - YAY)
>>752111143
What a nuanced, calm, and rational response
>>752111143
So rational
>>752111235
It's almost as if the prejudices against leftists are correct...
>>752108050
Wrong
>>752111315
As if leftist was definable
>>752111419
pretty easy:
hillary voters.
>>752105479
This is a well formed question, and the answer is no.
What makes you feel nostalgic is not necessarily the best way to raise a child, full stop. The two aren’t related in any way.
Freedom, happiness, health, education, these things are important, preserving traditions is not.
>>752110317
“Democracy” comes from the Greek words Demos, meaning “the people”, and Kratia, meaning “the rule”. It literally means “the rule of the people.” When anarchists use the word democracy, they are not invoking systems of western style representative democracy, which are technically “polyarchy” in the political science jargon. We mean the rule of the people. This is why the American anarchist Edward Abbey declared “anarchy is democracy taken seriously.”
Anarchism absolutely does employ democracy. “Might makes right” is actually what we have right now. Don’t believe me? Walk into a grocery store and try to get what you need to survive without turning over adequate pieces of green paper, or try living in a house without turning over pieces of green paper to your landlord. You will find out very quickly men with guns and clubs and tasers and mace will show up to do violence to you to force you to comply with the rules of the established order.
As for the rest, maybe instead of straw manning anarchist arguments you go learn about what anarchists are actually advocating.
>>752111546
>preserving traditions is not
unless they are designed to grant a society >Freedom, happiness, health, education,
>>752108811
>>752111546
i disagree i think tradition help form a sense of identity and community.
>>752105479
>>752111487
russia is that way ----->
>>752105479
Nothing is more natural than people wanting to protect their culture.
>>752110442
That's called muh liberalism
>>752111776
why the hell does this happen to my pictures?
>>752105479
I want to fuck those kids.
>>752111757
Sure maybe your identity, go ahead and keep participating in whatever makes you feel good, just don’t try to force it on others is all.
>>752111138
CNN, MSNBC, FOX, Huffpost, local news, online news etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCP62ykgI9Q
>>752111641
you mean the systems put in place already by the people?
2nd you can't change definitions to suit your argument, anarchy literally means no authority even elected.
>>752109872
This must be a shitpost
>>752111641
>It literally means “the rule of the people.”
and how was their rule enforced?
Do you think greek cities didn't have a city-guard?
Did they not have judges?
Did they not sentence people who were breaking the laws that the people agreed on?
Do you think greek merchants offered their goods (including food) for free?
By your very own definition, you advocate against authority.
But if you do, you can not possibly advocate FOR the authority of the majority (democracy) in the same sentence.
You, my wanna-be educated sounding fellow, suffer from nothing but orwellian "doublethink".
You are not even able to see the illogical conflict you're sitting in the midst of.
>>752111789
mad that I can define leftists that easily?
then don't ask stupid questions.
>>752111207
Except in practice, none of what you say is true. Otherwise, we would all choose to be rich business owners.
“The only difference as compared with the old, outspoken slavery is this, that the worker of today seems to be free because he is not sold once for all, but piecemeal by the day, the week, the year, and because no one owner sells him to another, but he is forced to sell himself in this way instead, being the slave of no particular person, but of the whole property-holding class.” ~ Friedrich Engels
What’re you referring to that goes against perserving what you call the American lifestyle?
Im not trying to argue, im just curious. LGBT acceptance? I cant think of anything else
>>752111315
Lol. "Uh oh, someone came in and shitposted, EVERY LIBERAL IS A SCUMBAG SHITPOSTER, THE STORIES ARE TRUE"
>>752111951
I am not, nor have I ever, advocated for electoral democracy. This is a straw man.
I am not changing definitions.
>>752111674
I also like to pretend like younger people didn't grow up in a completely different world than I did so I can blame them for failing at predicaments that I created
>>752106398
"their actions don't actually preserve anything"
As he quotes a man wearing what his fathers father would have worn. Go down to any town in West Texas and be a rude nigger, playing your stereo loud enough for the entire block to hear at a gas station. See how that infection works in that environment, then report back with your findings.
>>752105479
It's called getting older. If you're under 25 and not a liberal, you're heartless. If you're over 25 and not a conservative you're brainless.
The liberal media has been more aggressive now than ever before. As an educator I've noticed a jump in single mother households and children on benefits that wear 300 dollar sneakers. I've noticed that people are way more sensitive than they used to be. I've noticed that universities have become hindrances to knowledge. I've realized people just say diversity is a strength without really thinking about what it means. There's no going back but we can definitely choose the things we don't want to go away.
A thriving democracy needs participation. Voter turnout is horrible and people are looking for one person or a government to solve their problems more than ever before. Enlightenment philosophy is forgotten.
>>752112046
But but but I thought all the stupid leftists stayed home and didnt vote?
>>752112087
>Except in practice, none of what you say is true.
but anon, it is, regardless how often you deny it.
>Otherwise, we would all choose to be rich business owners.
Did I say it was easy?
Opening a business takes effort, the willingness to take a risk (cause no one pays you, your living suddenly depends on the success of your business directly), and often the swallowing of the bitter pill that is to take a loan you will pay off for some time.
Renting your labor away is a secure way of having a decent life.
Renting anothers labor to create something bigger with it yourself is a risky way that either leads towards living on the streets, or several stories above it.
And yes, engles is not false in his assumption.
But then again, we have worker unions, work-safety-policies, minimum vacation days, pension, healthcare, and what not else to make renting your labor away a pretty lucrative deal for YOU.
>>752105934
Yeah because liberals killed nobody ever
>He's thinking outside the constant media bombardment! Must be /pol/...
>>752111999
I cited the agreement language, not their system of democracy. Read what was actually written, please.
Anarchy is also Greek. Literally translated, it means “without rulers”. It does not mean “no authority”. You can simultaneously advocate against hierarchal relationships of power while advocating for a highly organized democratic society. It is not any kind of contradiction. I suggest you actually read up on anarchism rather than being dismissive from a place of ignorance.
>>752112433
Greek language*
>>752106589
"Only selfish narcissists try"
Well, there's also those things called parents. Some parents try to save their children the mistakes that they had to endure.
>>752112342
Do you mean bernie voters?
that are not really leftists, that are some rare brew of communists, anarchists and potheads. And if they don't go 420, they try to bash the fash, or something something something.
>>752111641
so you’re saying that you want a society that neglets contractial obligations? go to the suburbs of africa or something if that’s what you call a utopian society
>>752105479
You are just getting older, it's normal.
>>752112284
>stopping people from playing loud music in their cars is the pinnacle of preserving culture and integrity.
Thank fucking god we have an autistic cowboy to protect us from all these scheming jews and dirty niggers
>>752112433
Oh look, the ancient greeks had words, too...
Topkek
>Anarchy is also Greek. Literally translated, it means “without rulers”.
Exactly, and now tell me how that goes along with the "rule of the people".
Anarchy has no rulers.
In Democracy the people are the rulers.
Do you seriously fail to see the conflict in these 2 statements!?
Thanks for the thread. You guys were awesome.
OP out.
>>752112486
No, I'm talking specifically about the Hillary voters who were the main target of the 'theydidntvote' criticism. Why are you talkin about that old crazy fuck?
>>752109783
>>752105550
yup
>>752112734
because this crazy old fuck being screwed over by hillary in the DNC pre-elections were the reason that this rare brew of retards refused to vote for the democratic wrench.
>>752105479
No, you're not weird. Conservative or Liberal alike doesn't really matter. There are no real sides, only haves and have nots.
I fully agree that there needs to be some sort of traditional values system in place, and there was, but it was skewed.
Morality has gone the wayside and its not due to generational beliefs. The government has been playing us into what we've become for years, and we've allowed it.
This is why we live in a world where we can't have boys and girls. No, now we have asexual, nonbinary, gender fluid people who love sitting around screaming about their rights. I could go on, but I'm not about to start arguing.
>>752109872
Hate is an important emotion once put to text makes it easier to cope day to day hate is part of growing.
>>752112857
I'm pretty sure the reason alot of them didnt vote was moreso because they didnt actually support Hillary, not because of what happened to Bernie. Its hard to like her.
>>752113009
https://youtu.be/OFzXaFbxDcM
>>752105917
I don't know if it was like that, but I remember a time when family pictures were the norm, curfew was when the street lights came on, all parents on the block knew each other, and your mother knew who you were with and where you were, even if you didn't think she did.
God, I miss my childhood.
>>752112606
If everyone is a ruler, then power is decentralized to the point of meaninglessness and the concept of “rulers” is no longer pertinent.
>>752112190
but you are, you've changed the definition of anarchy to democracy even tho they're vastly different.
election or vote per issue base its the same.
if we have your version of "anarchy" and i don't agree with the vote and try to enforce my interests what happens?
>>752106772
Nah. Technology killed that.
If I ever DO have kids, they sure as shit won't get smartphones until 6th grade/12. Cheap flip phone for emergencies before that.
>>752106203
Not likely, given Joe average wouldn't understand the meaning of the word "discourse" without Googling it.
>>752113224
Great. I'm sure your kids will be made fun of and will be social outcasts. Don't fucking ruin your kids life because of your shitty values
>>752105479
you are right. it was better in the past....not perfect but people were happier overall. today everything is devisive. conservatives preach hate towards liberals and democrats. democrats preach hate towards Trump, religion and conservatives. so what happened to the average family that just wants to live a happy life and not live with overhanging fear or hatred? we are being mentally poisoned and conditioned to believe this is the new normal and the past was a lie.
>>752113180
Voting =/= Democracy
Democracy may employ voting as a means of getting things done, yes, but it is not the be-all-end-all of democracy.
“What is consensus?
Consensus is a decision-making process that works creatively to include all persons making the decision. Instead of simply voting for an item, and having the majority of the group getting their way, the group is committed to finding solutions that everyone can live with. This ensures that everyone’s opinions, ideas and reservations are taken into account. But consensus is more than just a compromise. It is a process that can result in surprising and creative solutions — often better than the original suggestions.” -https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/seeds-for-change-consensus-decision-making
>>752113390
>raising a child with a screen in front of their face has no side effects
What is imagination?
>hurr durr everyone else is doing it therefore it must be right
Fallacious as all fuck, get off my /b/, pleb.
there's no such thing as a "way of american life". that's bullshit
>>752113170
false.
if "veryone is the ruler" no one is.
And no, never did greek philosphers advocate for anarhy. They merely described it.
What they propagated for was direct democracy, where the entire given demos (the population of a city) was allowed to participate in an open forum where ideas were publicly discussed and then VOTED on, to be ENFORCED by the organs at place.
in ancient greek democracy, the entire demos directly controlled the policies after which they were policed, enforced by the governmental organs at place, like the city guard, appointed judges and officially appointed bureaucrats.
Anarchy is the antithesis to ancient greek democracy, as it is the anti-thesis for every other form of enforcement as well.
It is the absence of societal structure.
Deal with it.
>>752110317
>>752110649
At the chore of anarchist value is the belief that power corrupts what is otherwise good. Remember, it's a philosophy, not a political stance. Anarchists believe that without systems that allow physically weak individuals to hold undo power, the individual will respect the other individual and be willing to work together, or apart, for the preservation of the self and this comes naturally in all humans.
>>752113398
Well this current divide was much worse during this election due to Trump. Even when Obama was running there wasn't nearly this much divide. No matter if you support/hate Trump you have to admit that he is incredibly polarizing and has likely contributed greatly to the divide you mentioned. Its part of the reason Russia really wanted him in office, it is their plan to grow this divide and destabilize the US
>>752113590
>the individual will respect the other individual and be willing to work together
theory vs practice.
in practice, a stronger individual, given no one controls him, will control others.
One example: african warlords.
>>752112297
I like your ideas. Keep saying more things, especially the death of enlightenment ideals.
>>752113638
That's what happens when politicians realize that damn near everyone but fringe groups just vote party line anyways. Suddenly, they only have to pander to the fringe, further polarizing the parties.
>>752113556
It doesnt matter if its 'right' or 'wrong'. The fact is your kid will be the one kid without a phone. All the other kids will be texting, discussing internet culture, using social media, watching videos and playing games and your child will not be able to relate to ANY of it. They will be made of for being different. You are literally dooming your kid because of your selfish personal values. But I'm the retard. How about you understand how social interactions work you fucking autist
>>752108332
>heard the words "moral compass"
>thought it sounded pretty good
>doesn't know where one is today
>thinks there must have been one and it got lost
>doesn't know how morality works, ethics work, or compasses work
>runs around shouting at the sky "WHERE IS THE MORAL COMPASS"
>doesn't realize what he's saying is he has no morality and wants someone to hand him a ready-made thought process so he doesn't have to fucking think about the consequences of his actions and accept responsibility for them himself, instead deferring to the moral authority.
Grow the fuck up, become a man. That doesn't mean grow a beard, it means use your goddamn head and accept responsibility for your fucking life.
>>752110520
>I'm not sexist
Well, I am. Women are better fit in a support role than in a leadership role. I think leadership doesn't come naturally to them and they should have no voice when it comes to voting because they will always vote to undermine social structure.
>>752113800
Yes. The only way to do things is to refuse to let them use technology. Clearly that's what I was saying. Not "they don't need a personal smartphone in their face every second of every day, so they will have to make do without a personal one until they're older and their brains are more developed". No, clearly this is only a binary choice, and I'm just a Nazi of a parent.
Fallacy after fallacy. When will it end?
>>752113572
You are the reason civilization is devolving.
>>752105479
How old are you? It's normsl to become more conservative as you age.
>If you're not a liberal in your twenties, yiu have no heart. If you're not a conservative by your forties, yiu have no brain.
You get to decide what's important. What's important to you?
>>752105479
>I feel like I'm turning into a conservative.
too late, you already are 1
>>752111207
>You can decide who you rent your labor to.
Cool, so I can just get my labor back at the end of the day. I never knew this.
>>752105479
Not weird, just pointless.
>>752108305
>the Millienials took over
Nigger, the Xer's haven't even taken over yet. The fucking Boomers, who refuse to fucking retire, on account of having almost zero savings, having spent the proceeds of their parents generation nd their kids generation, are living and working so fucking long it's setting up a massive economic collapse. They can't get out of their jobs, won't make way in congress, senate, and now the White House, and are still running the fucking show, after half a motherfucking century, and they aren't about to relinquish control until they're in the dirt.
By then the Gen Xer's, the first generation to live shorter lives than their parents due to those very same Boomers dictating their lifestyle, will die out, and hand the entire country all at once to the generation of vidya playing basement dwellers with no life experience and no on the job training. The generational glut and purge is setting itself up to tank out country.
Hery Fucking Kissinger is still writing US policy.
Only in their dreams can men be truly free, it was always thus and thus will always be.
https://youtu.be/G2e_M06YDyY
>>752105479
It’s called growing up kiddo
My biggest problem is not fucking my teenage daughter
You don’t even know problems test bud
Doesn't matter what you are, any point where you say that something that's just generally a given belief of either party is retarded, you're immediately in the other party in the matter of public opinion.
Bipartisanship is dead in the water, politics are only getting more and more polarized, and demonizing the other party is just par for the course.
>>752106154
>preserving an objectively good, healthy successful civilization is dumb
K bud
>>752105479
>Am I weird for thinking that we should preserve a specific way of american life?
fear of the unknown makes almost anyone conservative OP, don't let it worry you. Just remember that there were people who thought electricity was evil and would make god punish us all. Don't be the old man shouting at the cloud, because the future will bring change regardless and your life will be spent worrying about how things are changing.
>>752114466
TRIP DUBS CHEK'D
>>752114049
Lol keep repeating the word fallacy if it makes you feel like you are making a point, but hey, maybe try to actually point out what a fallacy is. Stop being a defensive cunt and actually think about what I am saying and what my argument is. Do I think that all kids should have phomes? No, I think its fucked up and killing the beauty of childhood, while also forcing them to mature younger. Its fucked. But the reality is even today tons of kids have smartphones and tablets and all that shit. By the time your kid would be 10-13 years old I garuntee 99% of kids are going to have phones on them, and will be using them constantly. What is your kid going to do when all the kids pull out their phones and start playing games together? When everyone is showing their favorite videos? What about when they form a groupchat on some social media app and your kid can join because he doesnt have a phone. What about when they ask him why he doesnt have a phone. You kid will be an outcast, he will be made fun of, he will miss out on many of the things his classmates are participating in without him. And what happens then? "Why don't I have a phone?" he asks. This is when your kid will start to hate you.
But hey no, your right. This is just a fallacy, thats not how the world works. Have fun dooming your kid so that you could feel better about yourself you goddamn moron
>>752105623
Can't do that anymore. Too dangerous with all them Conservative nominees running around....
>>752113575
Why do you keep invoking Greek style democracy. It has zero relevance here. None.
Democracy = the rule of the people. It is an abstract word. Yes, it has implications in political philosophy. Calling it “the rule of the people” is not redefinition, though.
Go read Kroptokin, Bakunin, Proudhon, Goldman, Abbey, and come back and tell me your thoughts on anarchism afterward once you have a grasp on what you are actually talking about.
>>752114499
>My biggest problem is not fucking my teenage daughter
Either horrible phrasing or you're fucked in the head.
>>752114775
>having prime teenage ass under your roof
>not wanting to fuck it
you a faggot?
>>752113572
No, there was. It was the worst most aggressive brutal attitudes of the British empire, combined with the worst, most aggressive attitudes of the outlaws and exiles that flooded this land in the 16th and 17th century before the British got it.
Bunch of willfully ignorant, aggressive, selfish apes clawing each others fucking eyes out any chance they get, now pacified by punitive law, televised displays of tribalism and baited by consumerism.
The "American" way, is the ideology the British put together, to fuel the Industrial revolution's need for warm bodies manning the workstations. They were just more open about it. The US couches it in its own religious mythology.
Work makes you free, lol
>>752114632
>your kid that you don't have is already doomed, because there is only a binary way of dealing with anything
Yeah. Tablets don't exist. Setting a limit on how much time the kid can spend on it isn't possible. Nope. There's no possible way you could work around anything whatsoever.
Your imagination/problem solving skill set is nonexistent and yet you think kids growing up with smartphones is the REAL problem.
>>752114466
These people know nothing of poetry, art, or higher intelligence. They have no value as humans, and operate under that assumption. Only their work has value, and so they live to work, and prop up the upper class, as intended. They are cattle, bred in great numbers for their labor, temporarily required until our robots can fully replace them.
>>752114964
You are actually completely clueless towards social dynamics, which means you will never understand my argument. Understand I have nothing to gain by defending the use of phones by kids. I'm actually trying to save your kid an awful life of exclusion and social ridicule by demonstrating how shitty your ideology is. But hey, don't listen.
I hope my kid films and uploads a video of all the others laughing at your kid for being that one weirdo in the school without a phone.
>>752114462
>Kissinger is still writing US policy.
Jesus christ he is still advising on policy holy fuck
wtf usa
>>752113638
Exactly. but who created the toxic environment of hatred that got Trump elected? Obama did. BLM was a phenomena that came to be under Obama. Remember the shootings in Dallas? the left preaches hatred which fuels the right to come out and vote to change it. and now you just have the opposite. the country isn't getting better. elections are now based on who is lesser of the bad choices. nobody gives a fuck about the average American. there is no sense of optimism anymore.
>>752113743
Thats not an example and anarchism is not a practice or a system, it's a philosophy. It's a belief only. There is no practice to be had with it.
A "Warlord" can't exist individually, no matter how tall or strong he is.
>>752105479
It's not important that the way of life in any sense be American. But America has adopted a number of Western values that are important to the success and governing of nations and the well-being of humanity. And it's those values that are important. Now though, a lot of Western values that used to be present in Europe have been abandoned, and America is also under attack, but our strong individualist nationalist independent streak made sure we chose Trump over Orwellian communist jihad.
Japan isn't such a bad way of life. If you're Japanese.
>>752115234
And you're mentally fucking lazy, intellectually inept, and doomsaying something that will likely never exist. I hope your kid accidentally drops their smartphone in the shitter and fries it. Repeatedly.
>>752114632
you're blowing it out of proportion, the job of a parent isn't to be the childs best friend, its to teach them how to survive, if you truly think you need your smart phone to do that someones failed you.
having constant access to the infinite amount of misinformation on the internet during your formative years doesn't sound great to me.
having constant access to social interaction without consequence hasn't seemed to help most people manage their ability to be social
so far in my experience with teens that were raised with smart phones their ability to be social depends entirely on whether or not i agree with what they say if they can't google it they either shut down or agree.
>>752109223
There are actually people out there who think this little about shit before deciding they know everything there is to know and start spewing their dumbass conclusions around like an expert.
I miss the old days too, where when people like you had no outlet to talk like this big of a fucking bozo, but at work or at home, where your family would leave you and your job would fire you. Now with the internet, any fucking moron can find a few thousand other idiots and convince each other their bullshit warrants serious discussion.
Go talk like this big of a retard in public.
>>752105760
To some extent a fabrication, but in many ways it was real. Like anything, the image is embellished over time. Nuclear family was much more common, families tended to be less nomadic so extended family was nearby. There was still crime, perversion, abuse etc. but not magnified through the lens of the internet and 24 hour news cycles.
>>752115558
>mentally lazy
>intellectually inept
In case you are interested I am completing my final semester as a Mechanical Engineering uppergraduate this year.
I'd love to hear what line of work you are in so you can justify all that talk of superior intelligence.
>doomsaying something that will likely never exist
In the past 3 years we have gone from pretty much no kids using this technology, to the majority of kids using this technology. Why is it so hard to grasp that we will likely follow this trend ESPECIALLY with how we are growing even closer to technology at an exponential rate.
I am literally trying to save your child right now, stop being so willingly ignorant.
>>752106131
That's because they are.
>>752107763
> Imagine a retarded leftist who failed economics because they rioted during the lectures and exam trying to explain capitalism to an alien:
Imagine someone intelligent explaining capitalism to an alien:
"We each do whatever work we chose, but the value of that work is determined by how much demand there is for that work. We use tokens of exchange called "money" to track how much of that demand we've met, and can in turn offer that money as a bounty for providing the goods and services that we demand. It's effectively a barter system of free exchange, but the exchange tokens mediate the need of establishing fetch quest trade chains to complete our barter arrangement. The value of the money handles that. It works so well that we even pay people who are worthless and don't produce anything, because for some people giving them free money makes the giver feel better, and for others there's just a high enough demand for making the unproductive people shut up and stop whining about their own self-imposed worthlessness."
>>752116146
>didn't understand the thing that would not exist was the child
Such intellectual prowess has the master engineer, that he's so brilliant that he can't understand basic understanding of context.
>>752116104
>Nuclear family was much more common
It helped that the church usually wouldn't allow divorce, and the states would defer to the church. That way if your husband beat the shit out of his wife and kids, she could never fucking escape that hell. Yay, the wholesomeness of the nuclear family.
>>752109356
Then you are a democrat.
>>752116389
Maybe she should shut up and make the damn sandwhich then instead of bitching all the time after I get off the 40 hour shift I worked to buy her a house, car, and whatever flavor of stupid useless commodity she's been bitching about for the last week, but will forget instantly and never show gratitude for the moment I buy it in favor of bitching about the next thing she sees on TV. Sometimes a bitch needs a slap. If she stays a bitch, she needs more of them. Don't blame the guy for that. She decides when it stops.
Ha, who would have guessed the faggots who spend their days posting WWYD and FB/IG threads on /b/ don't like Conservatism.
No wonder you guys want more niggers and spics in your countries, it'll be just like your multi-racial gangbang porn!
Some faggot posted , "what's really important is people being free and happy without a bunch of other jackoffs trying to change that." This is an even faggier way of saying that you should be a hedonist who pursues pleasure and disregards responsibility.
This man who posted that has no sense of responsibility in his life or a longing to preserve his culture or way of life.
This man relies on controlled substances and alcohol to cope with his depression. Dude week lmao.
This man has very little muscle mass.
This man thinks girls should take as much dick as possible and YOU shouldn't care.
This man is a coward.
This person likes /b/.
>>752116103
name calling, cool.
>>752105479
Nothing is important. The march of time will leave you behind just like it does everyone else. You will spend the middle part of your life angry that things are changing and realize at the end of your life none of it meant anything because it happens to every generation ever. Just take solace in the fact that one day the young people saying and doing stupid shit like saying there are more than two genders will one day also be old and their kids will be annoying the shit out of them with their inane bullshit.
>>752116389
no shit, and as an added side bonus, beating your wife & kids was no biggie, since you knew you were free from consequence. Sure, if you caused permanent damage you could get in some trouble for not keeping what goes on in your own home private, but as long as you abused your own family behind closed doors, it was all good. Not like lawyers would work for women without their husbands permission anyway. Ahhh the good old days. Such a grand old time.
Gee I wonder where the big reactionary knee-jerk reaction against aggressive men is coming from?
>>752116622
>Some faggot posted , "what's really important is people being free and happy without a bunch of other jackoffs trying to change that." This is an even faggier way of saying that you should be a hedonist who pursues pleasure and disregards responsibility.
Hedonist here. I'm going to agree with half of this statement. The other half, the abdication of personal responsibility, I find insulting.
>>752116622
I never thought it was shills before last year, when they kicked it into maximum overshill.
I hate this, I wan't /b/ back; I remember seeing a graph where usership TRIPLED in 2015 and never fell off
>>752116389
during that time the church didn't allow no fault divorce if he beat the shit out of her she could leave.
>>752116622
I know right
>what matters is being happy
No what matters is being free and making a society that improves the lives of its people
>>752116146
You will be intelligent when you take what you have been taught, put every reflection of your beliefs aside and consider a concept which challenges everything that you have been taught, as factual.
Until then, you're educated.
>>752105917
While Amy was attending UNO, she and I dated and fucked for roughly 5 weeks before she broke it off. She really liked vaginal to anal, but couldn't suck dick to save her life.
>>752116812
It's because we don't
teach" rome(and its fall) in our highschool brain-programming courses.
>>752116389
You must have had a sad life. My parents were married for 67 years, never a hand lifted. We were not a particularly religious family and grew up in an extremely diverse city. Like the most diverse city in the US at the time. Violent crime was pretty much confined to the ghetto and kids could run and play after dark all summer. I suspect that you lived in one of the shadowed corners where your father was an asshole and your mother a spineless cunt. You appear to have inherited behaviors from both.
FUCK YOU I THINK FREELY WHICH IS WHY I AGREE WITH EVERY SINGLE LIBERAL WHICH IS 95% OF THE PEOPLE WHO SPEAK UP IN MODERN SOCIETY
BECAUSE IM SO DIFFERENT AND INDIVIDUALIST
BAKE MY GAY CAKE YOU CISHET SCUM
>>752116806
During what time? Not through the 1960s. Only when Vatican II finally started to reach the rural communities in the 1970s did that pop up. I come from that utopia.
>>752116336
>implying that sentence was structured well for it to actually be distinguishable.
You seem to enjoy blaming others without realizing your own faults. Also, I'm assuming you realize that your argument is garbage as you've devolved into attempting to attack me instead. I didnt drop the Engineering fact to seem like some hotshot on a random message board where anyone could lie about it. I was just trying to show you that I AM educated, hopefully resulting in you giving my argument more thought.
Yes you are weird for thinking you should maintain a specific style of living. It's supposed to evolve.
Who cares? Men don't need women anymore. There's no reason to care about women's rights or complaints. We don't want to fuck them anymore. If you have a dishwasher, a laundry machine, a microwave, a cat, a roomba, and a sex doll, you already have something cheaper and strictly superior to a woman in domestic skills, including in providing kindness and affection to you.
Hell, we have traps now, if the idea of fucking a sexdoll offends you. Men are better than women even at being women.
The only thing we need women for is as wombs. But underpopulation isn't promising to be a problem any time soon, and if it was men would invent artificial wombs.
Women have no remaining value, and are just a source of nagging, fussing, whining, and bitching.
>>752117036
Wife beating has been recognized by the catholic church as grounds for divorce forever; no-fault just made it so the cheater/beater didn't have to jump through religious hoops just to not go straight to hell
>>752117036
>Vatican II
Fuck it still hasn't reached half the rural churches, who wanted none of that modern liberal influence.
And in half the places it did, the reaction was to run off the deep end in to fundamentalist crazy town, and we've now got snake-handlers and people speaking in tongues and shit.
>>752116812
Why do that? Because it makes you happy, silly ;)
>>752117177
What a fine and lovely church you must belong to.
How nice for you.
>>752106589
Its okay. I'll admit I learned to ride a bike pretty late. Its never too late to learn and its very easy once you start getting it
>>752105479
you are becoming an adult.
>>752106082
Whats a helmet?
>>752105623
i too
>>752116826
I mean if you want to argue semantics then that is also a pretty shitty way to define intelligence. Good point with the educated part however.
>>752117306
No it doesn’t freedom doesn’t give you anything besides opportunity
>>752116674
Women should bear some responsibility for their poor decision in whom they choose to mate with..
>>752117036
no fault divorce came about via 2nd wave feminism.
before that in the US they could always divorce just had to have a good reason. and before 1848 couldn't get shit out of the divorce.
>>752117564
>guy seems pefectly normal for 5 years
>get married
>guy starts beating his wife
That stupid fucking bitch, she deserved it
>>752117446
>Quoting Churchill
>on anything other than how to drive the world into war
Yyyeah Churchill was an amazing thinker, a regular wise philosopher. The point you're trying to make, is that it's normal for people to become conservative about their better years as they get older. Problem with it is that it doesn't mean you're making smart decisions for the good of anyone other than you and your own fucked up interests at that point though. The fact you chose Churchill shows you have no idea how quickly Churchill became a liability rather than an asset after the war, full of terrible ideas that fucked England up beyond repair.
Not your finest source for a quote.
>>752105479
So you finally took the cock out of your mouth long enough to let some oxygen get to your brain, eh?
>>752117532
I was just trying to say that the root motivation for doing so was happiness
>>752117876
No it’s not
Being free has nothing to do with being happy, you have a fundamental musunderstanding
>>752105479
everybody can live the way he or she wants, that's my opinion. but ont ask 4channers for advice, they are all very conservative. ask reddit users
>>752105479
>we should preserve a specific way of american life
pedophilia?
>>752117583
>US they could always divorce just had to have a good reason
That wasn't even true as late as the 1980s. My own parents had to leave the church to get a fucking divorce bc the church wouldn't recognize it as an option. Once god marries you, it's forever. There is no divorce. Welcome to the real world application of bad ideas.
>>752117972
I think you are still missing my point. We create a free society that improves the life of our people for what reason?
>>752117083
Yeah, totally. Your genius couldn't be flawed given the fact that I literally just clarified something that was apparently too difficult for you to contextually understand (that I stated in the first fucking post, mind you), making the entire thing moot.
No, you'd NEVER only read what you want to hear, ignoring what was said in favor of being able to pat yourself on the back and say you're right.
I'm not going to fill out captchas for you, so I sincerely hope you have a nice day.
>>752118133
Lol. Look at the sentence you typed. PLEASE defend your argument that the structure provides enough context for it to be distinguishable. PLEASE attempt.
Once you realize you can't you will see the juiciest of irony in your post. Good day mate
>>752108778
Its kind of like mothers parenting in early ages, and fathers parenting more in mid-late teen years.
>>752118120
Because it’s moral
>>752118424
Why do we follow a code of morality?
>>752118482
Because it’s the right thing to do
>>752117501
Not arguing. More envious.
Intelligence is only our ability to understand and predict our environment.
Education is the implementation of that understanding to benefit ourselves and those around us.
It's just too bad some of us have to figure this out on our own while some of us are placed in an environment which impedes that understanding or just altogether retards it.
huh huh, i said retard.
>>752118507
Why do we do the right thing?
>>752112565
>mentions (((buzzwords))) without warrant or being relevant
>>752109356
10/10 picture
>>752118627
>gets so triggered by (((buzzwords))) that he forgets the argument
>>752112777
it's actually "some men just want to watch the world burn"
>>752117809
Yes, she bears responsibility in that decision to marry a man, whom she didn't really know after being with him for 5 years.
This is the reality that the weak don't want to consume. That poor choices bear poor results. This is why I'm sexist. I don't think women who take no responsibility for their actions, should have en equal voice in society. You either take responsibility and consider yourself an equal, playing the same game as the rest of us, or you don't and you forfeit your voice.
It's the non-forfeiture and even amplification of that voice that deteriorates the concept of personal responsibility and it's a manipulation of our desire to feel sympathy for these people that perpetuates the inevitable collapse of it all.
>>752119116
What if the guy actually was normal for all that time, and then something traumatic happened to him, resulting in him starting to beat his wife? Her fault?
>>752118117
Bad idea for the individual, but allow yourself to consider the concept as being better for the whole of society. More consideration definitely went into getting married and without a doubt, more commitment to the marriage and making things work.
Only upon the charred, burnt bodies will we march into paradise.
>>752119303
What if an asteroid falls out of the sky and kills us tomorrow?
We can discuss anomalies on an individual basis, but that doesn't and shouldn't change the arena we play in.
>>752118588
Because it’s objectively better for people to be cooperative instead of combative
>>752119962
So you are so concrete in your beliefs about how these relationships work that you would consider that an anomaly?
>>752120446
Objectively better is some strong wording, I would relax with that. And I would argue that very few people prefer cooperatism to combativeness when personal gain is involved..
>>752116823
Get raped by a dune coon, britbong
>>752120662
I don't hold firmly to anything. What I do or don't believe (which is literally nothing) does't effect my ability to understand that a spending 5 years of my life with another person should give me a strong understanding of who that person is and if I missed a warning sign in that 5 year period, I wasn't looking hard enough.
>>752120947
What if your wife cheated on you after 5 years? That must mean it was your fault for not recognizing she would do that, correct?
>>752114690
>Why do you keep invoking Greek style democracy.
because you started it, dipshit.
>Calling it “the rule of the people” is not redefinition, though.
did I ever imply so?
>Go read Kroptokin, Bakunin, Proudhon, Goldman, Abbey, and come back and tell me your thoughts on anarchism afterward once you have a grasp on what you are actually talking about.
Been there, done that, your talking point about anarchism is still schizophrenic.
>>752115437
>it's a philosophy
that directly propagates the abolition of all hierarchical structures.
the result of this philosophy are african warlords.
deal with it.
>>752120751
Its literally advantages to survival otherwise people wouldn’t do it
>>752122436
At this point, people dont do it
>>752122543
>people live in gargantuan interconnected metropolises and form giant corporations by not cooperatin
Kill yourself retard
>>752105623
Im about 20 and I'll ride a bicycle for exercise every now and again. I usually dont see kids out there alone. Usually just a family and the kids are probably forced to tag along
