>Be EA
>Make $60 Star Wars game that is a guaranteed hit because of Star Wars label
>Add shitty microtransactions right as microtransactions are sparking community outrage
>Lock 90% of your super popular Star Wars heroes behind a paywall
>Get the most down voted comment in Reddit History because your community team does not know how to write an response
>Remove the refund button from your website
>Lock refunding the game behind a 60 minute phone waiting time
>Make your popular Star Wars heroes cost less in game
>Make it so you earn less in game
Then wake up and realize a Star Wars game would have been a financial succes anyway, but you had to be the greediest company on earth
>>750979889
One of the few times i’ll Actually say good going reddit, 475k downvotes to EA made them realize they fucked up
>>750979966
What'd EA say that got the down votes?
>be gamer
>live in moms basement
>finally saved enough couch change for Star Wars
>wipe Cheeto dust off fingers and pull out your disposable Visa gift card
>buy Star Wars, cum while downloading
>open up game ready, expecting it to be beaten for you
>find out you have to unlock characters through playing the game
>shit self
>after Mom cleans the butt poopies, post on /b/ about these fucking scamming publishers
Hi there reddit. How are you guys actually surprised at any of this shit? How do you guys keep buying it again? Move on to other studios. The last time I bought anything from a AAA dev was Assassin's Creed 1.
>>750980266
They laughed the whole way to the bank.
TBH you should've grown out of playing games by now.
>>750980480
Post of truth
>>750980480
STWBF2(2005) Had individual match progression that was reset every match
>wanting a game with unnecessary progression
>>750980705
The progression should not have changed.
>>750980705
Those big strong players are gonna crush me :(
>>750979889
Remember how EA fucked up the 2013 SimCity release?
>>750979889
>Make $60 Star Wars game that is a guaranteed hit because of Star Wars label
because the previous one was such a hit right? i sold my copy in less then a month i didnt even care if i got 20 less the originally spent.
>>750980266
>>750980549
The Reddit out cry made it so all the in game purchases of named characters IE Luke and Vader are down to up to 75%
where as before you needed to grind out 40 hours of gameplay for one of the characters or microtransaction your way through
Reddit did a good job in making it so we dont have to buy the fucking characters
Why the fuck do we let EA get away with this bullshit?
We need to keep hammering away at them. They ruin one franchise after another, and any company they acquire.
Thanks to them, SimCity is a joke that got wiped out by a newcomer. They ruined "Mass Effect", ruined "Dead Space".
Basically. If i ever start a company, I will never ever go public with it. Being driven by shareholders is just turns things to shit.
>>750980266
"The intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different heroes.
As for cost, we selected initial values based upon data from the Open Beta and other adjustments made to milestone rewards before launch. Among other things, we're looking at average per-player credit earn rates on a daily basis, and we'll be making constant adjustments to ensure that players have challenges that are compelling, rewarding, and of course attainable via gameplay.
We appreciate the candid feedback, and the passion the community has put forth around the current topics here on Reddit, our forums and across numerous social media outlets.
Our team will continue to make changes and monitor community feedback and update everyone as soon and as often as we can."
Tl;dr: "Look man, we both know the chairmen are fucking this company, but I have to type this shit from the script they had some communications major write up. Please don't hate all of us, just them."
>>750980840
Yup. Now a newcomer ("Cities" Skylines") has totally conquered the hill.
That was fucking unthinkable before EA's incompetence.
Somebody buy the Star Wars license from EA already.
>>750979889
>thinking 40hours is too much for top-tier characters
lol noobs, go to steam and see how many hours youve logged on your favourite games.. go on.. Ill wait
>>750981037
40 hours per character on a mediocre game is pretty grueling, but say Skyrim is easy to rack up 400 hours
Post the pic with them holding Faygo bottles
Gamers complaining about playing 40hrs to unlock new characters. Smh first world problems
>>750979889
why did you just find this out now?
>>750980506
this.
Support those you want to support and put your money where you care. There are plenty of video games out there that are fun and many studios actually deserve support.
>>750980885
yes it was a hit, it was a scam and so many bought it
>>750981030
legit artists sometimes know they are working on cash cows and real shitty games. As someone under contract you have to bite the bullet and sell crap
>>750981036
i know countless city building fans who praise skylines i love that it happened
>>750981037
yea, thanks for making a living for artists with your NEETness, i appreciate it
>>750981014
This. Shareholders have too much power of decision, too much agency in cultural production. They don't care about what the company they have shares in does, so long as more money more money more money. Fuck that. I'd rather have smaller games that aren't buttfucked by shareholders, The Witcher 3 and Hellblade prove that it's perfectly possible to make *phenomenal* games without those parasites.
>>750980480
>>750981037
>>750981253
I'll never understand people that lick the boots of entities that couldn't give a flying fuck about them. You can keep licking until your tongue's raw, they'll still try to wrench more money out of you because that's all they care about, not you nor your opinions. You're equally impacted by this, objectively, so what's the point? Why the loyalty, the forced false equivalence, the insistence on denying the root of the problems?
I side woth ea y'all are lazy fucks who want everything handed to you. God I remember when it was rewarding to grind unlocks and prove your worth in the game.
>>750981336
Don't get me wrong. It's fucking oetetic justice "Cities: Skylines" smashed EA on this like Hulk vs Loki.
I just regret the passing of a good franchise (SimCity). It's your fault EA.
>>750981366
not boot licking - I just think that big acheivements in games should be just that - actual acheivements that require considerable amount of time and effort to achieve.
whats the fun if you have accesss to all game content from the get-go?
>>750981402
EA; the destroyer of "Star Wars", "Dead Space", "Sim City", "Battlefield", and "Mass Effect"?
That company can go to hell.
>>750981466
EA has been the downfall of COUNTLESS good franchises and game devs
>>750981473
We both agree on that, but it's fact that the game's design is not about achievement but about psychological warfare to fuck your wallet - consciously designed that way. If you want achievement, 5-10 hours is more than enough. 40 hours is excessive, and this is combined with clear power advantages for dishing out dough, making playing the game asymetrical if you have people paying for their power anyway. There's literally zero arguments to field for your standpoints that aren't flawed and deeply subjective at best.
>>750981473
no one is complaining about having to unlock content, they are complaining that someone can pay money to unlock it before they do.
Also;
paid shills suck cocks.
>>750981366
Because I make more than minimum wage and I want to play a game without bitching like a woman.
>>750981680
Not even that. It is that they highly prefer the latter, and gameplay was designed to be super grindy to drive players towards paying.
>>750981738
A game that's no fun to play, designed to fuck you and your fellow players over, and you openly and willfully endorse that, even making it a political matter? You make capitalist piggy very happy indeed!
I'm still mad about my Battlefield 1 season pass being included in the base game before I even got my second DLC. I paid $60 for a half assed $15 French map pack and they just mysteriously stopped giving Premium players their monthly battlepacks.
>>750981562
Yet somehow we can't bury the company into the ground.
Fucking shareholders and profits and casuals. They enable everything.
One fucking day, EA will destroy itself.
>>750981680
>>750981632
ah my bad didnt read the bit where you can pay to unlock - yeah thats a shit move
>>750981562
How many has it been now? I've lost count.
>>750981858
Yeah, that's the issue. Those 40 hours isn't going to be an exciting journey and isn't going to be filled with rewards for your hard work and time, it's just going to be 40 hours of repetitive busywork so they hope you cave after a few and pay up some more.
>>750980480
>paying 60$ for 10% of the game
>good goy
>>750981849
>no fun
Subjective
>designed to fuck you over
Sure, if you’re poor/bad at gaming
>political matter
???
>you make capitalist piggie very happy
Making over $50 an hour will do that to someone. Must suck having to grind at work for a week to afford a game. I get you’re 12 and hate asking for your moms credit card, but you can cut the neo commie shit and stop acting like you’re politically involved in anything besides Szechuan Sauce regulations.
>>750981975
People that make over $50 an hour aren't on 4chan at 9:30 on a Tuesday.
>>750980925
They also reduced how much you earn to 1/4 tho.
>>750981975
>doesn't understand why he makes it a political matter
>"cut the neo commie shit"
Yeah, imagine being a critical consumer instead of a bootlicking cuck of shareholders and hypercapitalists that care so little about you you might as well be an ATM. Grandstand all you want, you're weak as shit and we both know it, and your weird-ass lying about your income proves that further. Not fooling anyone, buddy.
Also,
>Sure, if you're poor/bad at gaming
You really know jack shit about game design and monetization techniques, I see. That's fine, but don't pretend your ignorance gives you the right of a voice in this discussion.
>>750982091
When you’re testing and compiling code, you can do whatever you’d like in the downtime. We even have a game room just for that. Stop working in a sweatshop, there are opportunities out there kiddo.
>>750982177
>butthurt because I can afford/play the game and you can’t
Could you be any more underage?
>>750982171
I mean, I'm just an informant, I'm not even getting the game
>>750982091
>projecting this hard
>>750982238
Comprehensive reading isn't your thing either, I see. No wonder you don't know fuckall about this topic and are just pretending to be hard.
>>750982091
implying we have 9:30 over here
>dumb ameritards at it again
>>750981037
Pretty much. Instant gratification in games is cancer. If I don't wanna play the game for 40 hours to unlock my favorite character, I should not be playing it at all, because its probably trash.
That being said, allowing you to get the characters for 200$+ is fucking bullshit as well. Pay to win trash.
>>750982339
Answer the question
>>750982451
just stop
>>750982480
No, how old are you, seriously?
>>750982420
Not pay to win but sure
>>750982440
F to pay respects
>>750980480
>>750981037
>>750981253
>>750981402
I understand the argument that many people are pussies and need to actually just play the game instead of paying to beat it, but this was designed to give you almost no choice if you don't want to be at a huge disadvantage. Somebody proved that this straight 40 hours of grinding implies that you don't spend a single bit of in game currency on anything else, denying yourself access to any other upgrades unless you want to grind another dozen hours. It's like this for many other aspects of the game as well. Is this shit really worth not having a season pass?
Lol and you idiots pay anyway because your real lives suck
>>750982505
That's not me. Why are you so triggered?
>>750982451
There wasn't one, and I don't see any reason to engage you further anyway because you're not at all equipped for these discussions, it's just a waste of time.
>>750982582
See, this guy understands and has read up on the subject, that's a solid question.
>still buying EA games
>still complaining about their greed
Keep contributing to the cancer.
>>750982187
1. Testing is an involved process, so if you're away from your screen, you're not testing.
2. If compilation takes more than at most a minute, your code is fucked has is full of fucked up loops that show you have no clue how to optimize.
The fact that people will run to an image board to lie about something as mundane as having a career is sad at best kek
>>750979889
OP is a loyal EA customer who buys everything they offer and then complains about it, therefore his point is moot. Isn't that right OP?
>>750982505
youre trying to win a lost argument, something stubborn kids like to do
>>750982711
Always the same shit.
>say something stupid
>"you're stupid"
>"LOL I'M MORE MASCULINE THAN U I MAKE MOAR MONIES AND THAT MAKES ME BETTER HOW OLD R U"
>heavy breathing, opens another bag of Cheetos, the crunching aluminium packaging echoing on the concrete basement walls
>>750981037
Some of us have jobs to work and bills to pay you fucking NEET. Maybe I just wanna come home and play a little bit of Darth Vader between cooking dinner and going to bed. I don't wanna fucking grind into that.
>>750982846
And that should be perfectly possible, for reasonable prices, while it's also perfectly possible (and enjoyable) put in reasonable effort to unlock it naturally. I really don't get why people don't understand this, microtransactions aren't inherently bad so long as they're not predatory and forced. I have a kid on the way, I'm not a teenager anymore so I just don't have those oceans of time anymore, I understand wanting the shortcut.
Anyone with half a brain saw this coming from a mile away the moment they announced no season pass for this game.
People went crazy and got excited, while the small percentage of us tried to explain that's not going to be a good thing.
That being said, some of you are acting like EA is crying over any of this, or as if Reddit actually affected share price. Sorry to break it to you, but Q3 earnings are going to continue impressing shareholders. EA makes millions on their copy/paste sports games and always will.
>>750982383
What does that even mean?
>>750982814
No refutation just ad hominem and strawman, super cute.
>>750983072
His country skips 9 o'clock entirely.
Who cares. Saged
The shit should be free bottom line. If you want to grind for something do the achievements, shit in the game shouldnt have to be bought when i just spent 80 bucks on the game already. But EA has and always will be a bunch of jewish nigger kykes that only want money
>>750983020
This
>>750983072
it means that you should end your pathetic life fat neet
>>750983115
Not sure who you are, but yes, that's exactly what that "lol I'm a coder how old are you" tard is doing. I agree with the post I'm quoting, I don't get having such a fragile ego that people have to lie on a fucking image board.
>>750981466
Poetic justice is always great, one of my favourites is when CD Projekt Red smashed everyone in 2015 and everyone was trying to attack TW3 for being too white.
>>750983339
Goddamn man, TW3 is on a completely different scale of phenomenal, we'll probably not see a game like it in the coming decade. Makes me sad.
>>750981975
>if you're poor/bad at gaming
Vader, Luke, main characters accessible off the bat in the first game locked behind a 40 hour game-time played paywall? I could literally afk matches for 40 hours to play intensely that whole time, same difference.
40 HOURS EACH? Don't get me started on Obi-wan and the other 100k credit heroes.
Microtransaction Casual. Have fun shelling (shilling) out hundreds of dollars to play. You stupid, nigga.
I fucking called it since their first SW bf release and everyone was like: HURR DURR THE OTHERZ WERE SO GUUD! MY DICKZSOHARDCAUSE MUH GAYMS!
What else could I do but sigh? I'm honestly not surprised by all of you suckers who got cuckd, you asked this for yourself when you fell into that EA logo.
>>750980480
>thinks every gamer is like him
>cries when they find out he's wrong
>goes on 4chan to whine
>no one agrees with him.
>shits self again.
>>750983766
>how old r u i make more money
>>750983339
And GoG, a subsidy of CD Projekt Red rebooted the servers for the original Battlefront II. Not only that, but CD Projekt Red were very on the fence about charging people for their DLC for Witcher III, DLC which is more like expansion packs, whole games themselves. I don't mind paying for that as it is a shitload of content I enjoyed and felt the developers deserve compensation for their time and resources, not so big a feeling paying $10 for some skins.
CD Projekt red is one of the last good publishers left. I like to think it's because they are also developers and can sympathise with the gamer and not just see us a customers.
>>750983934
Bless them for reviving the original BF2 servers, but are they any stable now? got in on day 1 and it was buggy as hell
>>750982711
>works at low end job making small code that doesn’t affect anything major
>thinks all code is as minuscule as the things you work on
How sad
>>750983884
im 12 what is this
>>750983934
I remember being a fledgling journo at Gamescom when CDPR was showcasing The Witcher: Enhanced Edition behind closed doors, and goddamn man, those guys are a riot to hang out with. Beers, barbecue, we spent more time talking about our favorite media than The Witcher itself. Every time I saw them again, it was all like "hey Anon, you're back again! How you been, dude? GoG working out for you, excited for [game/movie/novel] coming out? Come have some beers dude!" Even hooked me up with some industry networks and contacts that helped established me, so good times.
Fucking standup dudes, from the ground to the top.
>>750982846
Then
Buy
A
New
Game
Faggot
ITT Reddit
>>750984212
>"he said he wanted to play Vader specifically!?"
>"play a different game faggot"
>gr8 b8 m8
>>750984211
Uh, I did marketing for Witcher. Doesn’t sound like the team I know. They’re good guys but they don’t really mingle. Who are you? Maybe we met.
>>750983934
As Jim Sterling says all the time, indie games and Hellblade prove time and time again that publishers literally do nothing that is required for a quality game to be successful. If more avenues for devs to get funding and distribution pop up, toxic distributors will go bankrupt over the course of a few years when this "fuck you, pay me more!" bubble finally bursts and the fallout scares off investors.
Oh nice i was looking for this pic
>>750984298
>cater the game to ME
>because I’m an old faggot and I have shit to do!
>fuck your main demographic!
>stop liking what I don’t like!
>fuck my ass daddy Vader!
>>750983020
I stopped believing like 25 hours in on The their first battlefront
>>750984378
>uses "demographic"
>doesn't understand demographic
gg
>>750983433
What's so great about TW3 as i didn't really buy into the hype of it
>>750984312
Rather not give out my name on 4chan for obvious purposes, but I getcha, they're not typical socialites or the like (who really is in the industry) but it was good times regardless. It was the GamesCom where you guys were handing out those floppydisks with a free game for GoG, just as it was starting up? Was a fun chore to find a floppydrive, can tell you that much.
>>750981540
Forgetting Westwood's command and conquer/Red Alert series
I predict EA's BF2 will have lost their gamer base in about 2 years time, if not sooner.
Meanwhile, people still playing the original BF2 after what, 10 years?
>>750984161
>REEE u idiot no i cumpile entore opuraten sistims all by muhself!!!!!
Look, we get that going on 4chan to act like you went to uni for an education and got a high paying job makes you feel fuzzy inside, but even people who have taken a community college 101 level CS course could tell you have no clue what you're talking about. I'd say it's bait, but being literally retarded is not baiting.
>>750984530
Hard to explain because when someone describes it, it sounds like any other open-world game. It's the combination of grounded world, character interaction, gray morality, real attention to detail even in sidequests, well-written narrative and characters, and audiovisual splendor that did it for me. It takes a bit to get into it though, it's all a bit intimidating at first, but when I was neck-deep in a few narratives that were really emotional and really made me invested, that's when the magic hit.
>>750984378
>doesnt understand the way I used demographic
>thinks Star Wars is catered to 20 year old men and not children
>”dat weird doesn’t mean wut u thnk it means cuz I said so XD”
>>750984672
>script kiddie trying to school me on my degree
>trying to look smart for the big boys
Are you going to cum soon?
>>750979889
Idk why these retards expected anything different anyway
It's fucking EA.
tbh I'm very surprised they lowered the hours/payment.
It's ok tho because break one wall down, another comes up.
>fucking ea
>>750984561
Can we please just boycott EA already?
ENOUGH is enough. They've had plenty of chances not to suck.
For the good of all of humanity, this company must fall.
>>750984941
Seriously, EA is doomed anyway so let's seal its doom and boycott it.
Otherwise, it'll just keep on killing franchises.
>>750984941
Also the kill Visceral -> buy Respawn thing, in the span of not even a week. I mean, Respawn are fucking idiots for agreeing to the sale, but murdering Visceral was peak hypercapitalism. Purposefully fuck it up, don't invest further, "lol it's not working out byebye". Gee, wonder why that is, EA? Cunts.
>>750984842
>"oh shit they know im making this all up"
>wipe cheeto dust from my forehead
>mom calls down asking how many tendies i want
>"Not now Mom! I have some pleb wrecking to do..."
>crack my fingers
>begin typing at lighting speed
>at least 30 wpm
>the perfect comeback comes to mind
>"yeah... well uh I bet youre about to cum from making fun of me!"
>look at what I just typed
>whisper under my breath... "rekt"
>I laugh victoriously
>everyone claps
>>750985121
can you please explain?
>>750979889
Thanks for the quick rundown. I was trying to figure out what this outrage was about.
>>750980613
You're right I should be working my ass off to pay for a child I don't want. Haha fuck off.
>>750985670
>don't samefag you little douche
Fuck EA and fuck Star Wars. The I'm-a-nerd-look-at-me-i-love-star-wars crowd will buy anything to prove they are 'geeks'. Lego, shirts, go to movie opening to prove they're fans, buy vidya and toys. Fucking idiots will buy anything to look like they belong in a group. How can any game or movie studio create anything original when these fuckheads exist
>>750985346
Maximum keks, noice.
>>750985420
Which part? EA killed off Visceral Studios after it underperformed, which is almost entirely due to Dead Space 3 being raped to death with microtransactions (EA bein' greedy) and thus getting shitty critical / commercial reception. Visceral was since then working on a single-player Star Wars game that looked really cool, but EA arbitrarily decided to shut the doors and boot everyone. That was a really shitty thing to do, it earned them lots of backlash because they leech studios dry quicker than the speed of light, and is act one of our tragedy.
Act two came almost exactly a week later, when Respawn Entertainment (Titanfall) announced it was getting bought by EA for 440m dollaridoos (with one third cash, one third stock, one third performance incentives that are of course bogus). Titanfall 1 was a commercial success but had lukewarm reviews, Titanfall 2 was a critical hit but didn't sell too well, and Respawn got an offer from publisher Nexon to be bought. Contractual obligations to EA gave EA first rights of refusal, and EA offered a higher price. Respawn took it, and now EA owns Respawn, Titanfall, et cetera. Prepare for Titanfall 3 to have lootboxes and microtransactions to the fucking gills.
>>750985420
EA fucked Visceral by forcing them to make Dead Space 3 a microtransaction-filled mobile game wannabe. Afterwards, "yeah well you sure dropped the ball on that one devs, so the investors dont really trust us to trust you anymore sorrs." Then they shut Visceral down a few years later for not making any notable contributions with the basically no support EA was giving them. As is the EA cycle: order devs to fuck a game, blame them (or the customers) when the franchise stops making money, then use "muh investors" as the reason for shutting them down. But of course EA is too chickenshit to create studios out of fear of them failing, so they buy up studios in charge of well-selling franchises and the cycle repeats. mfw
>>750985728
nope, you fail faggot. I didn't even get into the argument but what that guy said there was funny af
keep trying son
>>750985728
And don't imply samefagging and misuse greentext newfag. Lurk more.
>>750982383
We're dumb?....You're on an American website on an American invention called the internet.
Hey guys I’m from Leddit someone backlinked no h8
Also EA sucks :3
>>750985792
>>750985860
Ah yes... Dead Space 3... FUCK!
I fucking hate EA for ruining that amazing franchise, mfw I still pick up the first game and still love it. Can't say much about Titanfall since I didn't play it. Actually I'm pretty much done with the AAA game scene and whatnot and for the past two years I've been focusing almost entirely on indie games
Anyway, thanks for the explanation guys I was confused about the studios' names there. They rose and died before their times ; -;7 nevar forget
>>750986093
>so insecure you had to post proof
>>750986305
>; -; 7
And nobody of value was hurt
>>750986274
Cute bait anon.
>>750986347
>Double down
>>750980613
its a multi billion dollar industry stop being retarded.
@750986274
OMG me too LOL. Do you know of any other sub4chans? This b one seems kind of loose on the rules and a lot of the stuff is offensive :/. I need to start posting more if I want to build up my 4chan post karma.
>>750986383
>lol only fags are passionate about things, unironically liking things is dumb
>>750986305
Fuckin' ay man, never forget.
; -;7
>>750981402
Have fun grinding your 40 hours to unlock 1 character while you get wrecked every match by a 12 year old whose parents bought him the character pack
>>750986347
>fails at argument
>fails at green text
>being this beta
dude, you are just proving how much of a newfag you are. just kys
>>750986582
>>750981037
its 40hrs for one character you dumb fuck. if there are 10 characters that means 400 hrs just to unlock all the chars and thats just the chars. i cant think of a game i had to play 600 plus hrs just to unlock everything, thats fucking crazy and you know it.
>>750986347
My god, you're still at it? Weren't you boasting about being a 1337 coder, so so busy and important! just a while ago? Go back to work, dude.
>>750979889
>gaymur
>plebbit
Get the fuck out of here kid
>>750986628
>>750986829
Don't know if you guys got the memo, but they cut character costs by a lot. Doesn't change anything about them being a shitty anticonsumer company only doing it because shit tons of people were threatening boycott, but at least now it will only take like 10 hours each instead of 40 kek
>>750981975
millionaires didnt become that because they spend 260$ on a video game. i know people that make 250,000$ a year and wouldnt toss 10$ away for crap.
>>750985980
if thats the level of comedy that cracks you up, try amy schumer on for size.
>or AIDS.
>>750979889
they cut hero credit cost by 75% right, well what they failed to mention is that they also cut credit income from playing the game by 75%. in other words, nothing changed.
example the 20k credit reward for finishing the story is now 5k
>>750987002
But, EA being EA, they also heavily cut down the money you get in the game required to unlock shit, because of course. Used to get 50k credits for beating the campaign, after the last update it's 15k. They "listened", but are still trying to rig the system in less obvious ways in the hope of it going under the radar this time.
>>750987183
>>750987162
Ah, I fucked up, not 50k/15k but 20k/5k, sorry.
>>750986694
>uses greentext the same way he just criticised
>everyone disagrees with
>throwing newfag around like projection
fuck off Jeff
they also removed the refund button on their site so now you'll have to call them and demand a refund, which is atleast 60 minute wait time before you even get through
>>750987183
Did they fucking really? I didn't see it blowing up on memeddit. There's no where they're that disconnected from reality holy fuck
>>750987162
i don't (and wouldn't) own the game but is this shit for real? I totally expect it from EA but holy shit, being this scummy and not even giving a fuck... and people still fall for their shit? fml
>>750986093
>Lurk more
>more
>L
4chan's premier bedroom authority on correct post structure and line spacing strikes again.
>fuck off Jeff
>>750987002
please explain why 3600 hrs to unlock every gun as confirmed by angry joe is ok. kek.
>>750987600
'the finishing campaign reward is the only one i know for certain, not sure if its across the board for everything. either way its still heavily pay2win
>>750987002
wait i forgot the best part. no matter how many deaths/kills you have or where you are on the leader board the game awards the whole team with a flat rate of credits.
>>750987576
Check Jim Sterling and YongYea's videos on it, YongYea's a bit late on the ball on this one but he'll probably have one up in a bit. Some outlet (Eurogamer or Game Informer, can't remember) did some analysis on a newly issued patch for their review copy, and they noted the differences. It's conjecture that it's in response to critique, but let's face it: we all know what's really going on.
>>750987653
>>750987802
Wasn't defending the game at all. I'm definitely still not buying it or any other EA game. Was just making the point that the change was technically made, but ig btards are saying payouts were reduced too which if true is fucked
>>750980925
>40 hours of grinding
Sure, for a n00b
>>750979889
Wtf is wrong with bf2 players? Is grinding a game for 40 hours considered to much for unlocking the most powerful characters?
I mean from what i understood you dont even have to play good...you can semi-afk it.
Does the game have no serious issues like bad netcode, imbalanced maps or shitty hitdetection?
Cause that's what really sucks in fps today, not having to grind 40 hours lol. I mean if you start learning a game how many hours do you put in until you consider yourself semi-decent? 1.5k? 2k? How does the 40hour grind matter then? And if you dont want to git gud at the game, why would you want to take the most important spots on the team (as i'd expect darth vader to be)????
That makes no fucking sense unless you are an autistic dickhead that doesnt care for his team.
Tbh from what i've seen this whole starcard/lootcrate madness seems pretty stupid, but why do people keep bitching about the grind?
Like seriously what are 40h in an fps game? In a skillbased game you couldnt even move your character right after 40 hours lol.
>>750987802
i actually saw this on one of angry joe's videos. that literally takes the fun out of anything. I mean, why would i want to play as best and as epicly as I could if I can just sit there literally doing NOTHING and get the same reward?
i fucking blame the snowflake's "Everybody Gets a Trophy" agenda
>>750986305
I'm still upset over Pandemic, else we wouldn't even need to have this thread. I miss original Battlefront and Mercenaries.
>>750987958
>In a skillbased game you couldnt even move your character right after 40 hours lol.
Pls clarify.
>>750979889
I want to be killed by those asses
Let me play you the song of my EA hatred.
Everything to 0:09.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euWkzZLPhng
>>750987958
>Like seriously what are 40h in an fps game
Several suggestions:
- read the thread, it's not just 40 hours and even that is unnecessarily excessive, and engineered to not be fun so you'll be manipulated into paying up
- game design-wise the game is really fucked up, regardless of those hours that is something you should object to
- even 2 hours is a lot if you're an adult with responsibilities, a household to maintain, a job, family, etc. Come back in a decade and tell me if you still want to spend several times 40 hours on the same game, doing the same repetitive shit over and over again, when you don't even have an hour per day to yourself.
>>750988329
>even 2 hours is a lot if you're an adult with responsibilities, a household to maintain, a job, family, etc. Come back in a decade and tell me if you still want to spend several times 40 hours on the same game, doing the same repetitive shit over and over again, when you don't even have an hour per day to yourself.
this. with a cum bag and a child to take care of i can't even hope to spend 2 hours of gaming a day, let alone 40. THAT's why it's all behind paywalls
>>750988012
Or it is so that even the best players cant fast track to unlock things so they are also pushed to pay which would maximize the reach of the microtransactions, but you could politicize it for no reason instead I guess
>>750988012
yeah its bullshit. i mean dont get me wrong if your a shitty player and place in the bottom 3 for 5 matches in a row maybe give you a little boost so your not getting shit on 24/7 but that flat rate is garbage.
>>750979966
They got like 700k now
I hope Anthem is good
>>750988498
Not gonna lie man, I was the same as those basement dwellers who are all like "yo 200 hour games are the tits why you complaining", and then I found my soulmate, we have pets, a house to clean and maintain, PhD work, a regular job, etc. I don't even have a social life beyond my wife and pets and colleagues anymore, and ironically I work in the field of Game Studies at uni but I hardly have time to play the shit I research. Adult life hits you *hard*, man, you can't imagine it until it actually hits you, so I can't fully blame the ignorance.
>>750984357
But of course crowdfunding routes also give us games like No Mans Sky and others. I think the consumer needs to stop being so naive is the real solution. And I don't know if any of the other methods we have right now for funding can generate enough money for a triple AAA title.
But like as you stated they're ARE good indie games out there that prove me otherwise. Are they're any good indie developers that are big AAA title sized teams?
Also there ARE good publishers still out there. I mean, not much but there still is Projekt Red, bless those Poles, and Paradox which I think is giving TaleWorlds all the time it needs to make Bannerlord fantastic. I see too many publishers putting down deadlines and rushing out unfinished games. It needs to stop.
>>750988529
>but you could politicize it for no reason instead I guess
kek, i know what you mean but it's not exactly political when you are talking about the way we raise kids. Political agendas or societal traditions included or not, it feels like your effort is worth shit when you score equally to the worst player in your team
>>750988329
>>750988498
I agree with you both, and am in the same boat with cock holster & jelly tots in tow.
Not very interested in the BF, got 1 and only played for 10 mins or so, I don't really like online FPS or these types of things. Lot of time in MMORPGs in the past, now mainly play single-player campaigns/RPGs.
But I think that you should get rewarded the more time you put into something. 40 hours into a game isn't huge, especially an online one you are playing every day. Even only 30 mins a day you'll have got everything within a few months, which is a pretty short shelf-life.
I don't agree at all with the pay to unlock model. And I think its shittier that good players who want to unlock upgrades/characters will be thrown against bad players who have bought the upgrades from the get-go.
Player/match ranking is hard for the devs to get right. Even after 50 hours playing, you'll still get "bad" players with the same time invested as the "good" ones.
Is it a situation here where you could be level 10 with no characters and matched against a level 10 with best darth vader?
I must say the new GTSport is a disappointment if you want GT7, but the player matching is amazing. Penalties for bad driving really seperate the drivers into tiers.
>>750988329
>even 2 hours is a lot if you're an adult with responsibilities, a household to maintain, a job, family, etc.
Then dont play videogames you old bum. You are slow as fuck anyways. Go play monopoly with your kids. You might win there.
>>750988172
>play 40 hours quake
You suck absolute penis at the game and need to put in several 100 more until people stop telling you "dont give up. You will be decent one day" after duels. You need thousands of hours until you can really move like a good player on most popular maps.
>play 40 hours of cs
And again there is no way you dont suck penis at this game after 40hs. The only difference is that the enemies dont encourage you to keep playing and your teammates will tell you to uninstall.
>>750984608
In a couple months finding that more people are online playing the original than playing the reboot would be the best "fuck you" to EA I could think of.
Of course by then they would just have another Battlefront churned out like clockwork, so I doubt it would smack some sense into them.
>>750988771
Tbf with Bannerlord, it isn't exactly a normie yearly franchise that will sell millions upon millions of copies in the first week. Giving it time to be developed to its full potential is probably the best way to ensure sales and a return on investment. Don't assume Paradox would act the same if they published CoD or ACreed
>>750988598
yeah but isn't that the kind of handouts we should be avoiding? why even ASPIRE to git gud when you are rewarded equally with the pros?
>>750988761
fucking word, /b/ro. i feel you on every word because i'm in exactly the same position. I have no regrets tho, I love my family and my pets and I wouldn't trade them for anything, but I do miss the long hours on the couch and get immersed in my favorite rpg or open world game. They'll probably return once we get old af tho, then it'll be great all over again
>>750988914
>takes me 40hrs to learn how to move right in an fps
>controls for fps arent mostly universal
>have muscular dystrophy so i think everyone else does too
>>750988914
gotcha yeah. if you had only 40 hours in ffxi, you would not know how to play at all. but in an RPG model at least things are tiered, there would be starter activities and low-level parties, mobs and quests.
i guess in these games you are thrown straight in at the deep end, and until you get skilled you'll just get destroyed over and over. its part of the reason I never enjoyed COD or battlefield online, there was no real way to get into it so it didn't even become enjoyable until you'd put those 40+ hours in.
>>750989279
i get his point tho, for the first 10, 20, 30, 40 hours, whatever, in a deathmatch type game, you're just gonna get destroyed over and over.
>>750988761
Well quit playing games then and dont complain that they dont cater to the needs of people who dont have time to play. Idiots like you are the reason they make all these shitty cod-type casual games.
I love it. My investment in EA stock has tripled in value thanks to you crybabies. I hope EA continues to stick it into your ass. You should have learned from Sim City.
Not only are you getting raped in your ass, you back up and dare then to do it harder. At a certain point it's easier to just to admit you like it lmao
>>750988914
>old bum
I'm 29, and I'm five years too late with being where I should be (education-wise and job-wise) due to having been knocked out for five years due to medical issues so 24 would also apply. Not gonna lie though, my back creaks like a motherfucker in the mornings.
>>750988903
I fully agree that if those 40 hours were at least rewarding, fullfilling experiences instead of monotonous busywork designed to wear you down, I'd have less issues with it. 40 hours is still way too much in a PvP game with payable unlocks though, since it creates arbitrary haves and have-nots that destabilize competitive play in favor of the wallet-pullers. Lower the amount of time required, and the problem is also less big but still there. Axe pay-to-win entirely, and monotonous 40 hours is still an issue. The solution is simple: either axe pay-to-win and make the 40 hours fun, rewarding and exciting, or keep pay-to-win but lower the 40 hours to 5 max. (just a suggestion). EA, being greedy cunts, try to do both.
I do think it's a good idea, as you suggest, to make separated modes for payers and non-payers, so the two don't mingle and it doesn't turn into an asymetrical fuckfest. Then at least the people without time / patience / with large wallets can compete against others like them, without fucking it up for the people that play normally. Still makes the time investment required for unlocks stupid, but at least removes the unfairness from competitive play, which is one of the key psychological manipulators in microtransactions.
>>750989174
im not saying jack the poor bastard up to the same level as everyone else but a little boost couldnt hurt. and if someone exploited it their record would show it. or maybe instead of giving it to them after losing 5 matches badly give them a choice where they would receive some credits or loot at the cost of experience and rank. or burn one of their star cards.
>>750989092
I wasn't assuming Paradox would be like that at all. I respect that company and I've liked every game they put out. A whole lot of DLC for games like EU4 and CK but it's all practically free by the time the just about monthly sale rolls around for it. I think them giving slack and letting TaleWorlds do their own thing and take Mount and Blade in the direction they want it to is great and I commend it.
>>750989410
Read before commenting so you don't sound so goddamn stupid. Nowhere did I say I like microtransactions, nor did I say I don't like long, huge games anymore. Elsewhere in this thread I came buckets over The Witcher 3, and a few hundred hours in I still haven't seen the end of it. Been playing since release.
>>750989279
>is a fucking noob who never played any skillbased game for an excessive amount of time
>thinks he can move in cs and quake cause he played cod
Everyone who knows anything about fps, knows you are a retard right now. I suggest you pick up cs, get your silber 4 rank and reconsider your opinion.
>>750989289
Dude cod or battlefield are a bad joke when it comes to competitive play. Nobody even tries.
>>750986628
Lol cuz that's how heroes work moron
>>750987958
>Wtf is wrong with bf2 players? Is grinding a game for 40 hours considered to much for unlocking the most powerful characters?
No, that's fine if its the same for everyone, however with this game being so heavily pay2win it isn't. you will run into people using these heroes a fuck load of times in those 40 hrs and if you're not very skilled you're not going to be able to anything about that.
>I mean from what i understood you dont even have to play good...you can semi-afk it.
why would anyone buy games with the intent to semi afk them for 40 hours? if its like that i wouldnt even bother buying the game in the first place.
>Does the game have no serious issues like bad netcode, imbalanced maps or shitty hitdetection?
netcode seems fine, some maps are one sided and theres a lot of random projectile spread. when you're simulating laserprojectile type weapons i dont think spread should be in there. unless if theyre simulating Storm trooper aim.
>Cause that's what really sucks in fps today, not having to grind 40 hours lol. I mean if you start learning a game how many hours do you put in until you consider yourself semi-decent? 1.5k? 2k? How does the 40hour grind matter then? And if you dont want to git gud at the game, why would you want to take the most important spots on the team (as i'd expect darth vader to be)????
that hour scale of yours is so far off, especcially for a game like bf2. personally i wouldnt even need an hour with this game to consider myself semi decent, 1,5/2k is unrealistic for bf2 as it offers no other goals beyond these heroes.
theres no ranks/hiscores/leaderboards or anything to work to work towards. all this game is from what ive been able to tell is to obliterate people using a hero because those vastly outclass any alternative you can play with.
also considering the reward system is a flat amount of credits to everyone, no matter how well you perform so theres not even an incentive to git gud in this game
>>750983766
>>750989279
do you even know what a circlejump is?
>>750979889
the new battlefronts suck anyway
>>750989353
for online games sure. but this isnt doom95 where fps games are unheard of. maybe for the newcomer you'd get rekt without any prior exp but i cant think of many people that have never touched a fps before in their life. i would also assume the ranking system would help with you not getting rekt by some pro gamer with sponser ships. i mean yeah when i first played counter strike i was getting my shit pushed in for the first 10 hrs but it wasnt a massacre or anything. hell after 20 hrs i was placing in the middle of the leader boards with an occasional win in the top 3 and i was 11 at the time.
Why would any even care about Star Wars or any of there games now that Disney own it? Your gonna have a bad time stop feeding stars wars franchise money it’s just a cash grab of shit movies and shit games now. Move on to better things and realize Star Wars died along time ago in a galaxy far far away
>>750989462
>Not only are you getting raped in your ass, you back up and dare then to do it harder.
my primary complaint right there. Also, fuck you anon
>>750980613
So I'll work a 50 hour week at my job and come home to sit around and do nothing. Sounds good. Faggot. Or maybe glue my eyes to a boring ass sports game. I'm sure your life is full of adventure.
>>750989289
did someone say FFXI?!
Still my fav MMO
>>750989677
>>750989289
I understand what you mean, it seems that COD & battlefield were full of guys exploiting, kids, griefers, campers etc etc?
I had high hopes for battlefield 2 i think it was, advertised with 64-person armies battling across huge landscapes, subteams etc. log on and give it a go and its just a case of a bundle of camping snipers and one guy who is really good with an aeroplane nuking the shit out of you every 13 seconds.
I would have loved to find a game where you could enjoy strategic game-play on a level playing field like that. Brink I had high hopes for.
I am sure it exists in quake, tf etc but the time investment isn't worth it to me. I just don't do online gaming any more, period, except for motor racing games.
>>750989677
i wish i saw your comment a second ago. i've been playing c.s. way before source came out since i was 11 so go suck a dick, i would ruin your life in that game.
>>750989923
Why fuck me? I make money off idiots and it just so happens that 4chan is a perfect barometer for that
>>750980613
Whenever someone spews a baiting reply like this I always wonder what kinda interests they have
>>750989977
yeah man, i had something like 7-8 years in that game.
once i got d.ring and they pushed the level cap past 75, I couldn't enjoy it any more. everything became too easy.
>>750984525
Or. Like anon said. Get a different game. There's other games you can play as Vader. There are plenty of games for a quick fun multiplayer match that you can play after work and before bed. Don't be a faggot.
>>750990052
Yeah, but I would ruin your life in real life.
>>750989784
yeah i know what a STRAFE jump is
>>750990090
Nice bait, hypercapitalist pi- ah fuck ya got me.
Being over the age of 15 and still liking stars wars lol. You fucks are pathetic.
>>750990177
unless you can drive bitcoin down to 4grand a pop or eth to 250$ i doubt it. and unless you have a few years in martial arts or some form of hand to hand combat i also doubt it.
>>750979889
The demo wasn't the best, so I'll wait till the game drops in price. Why do people still pre-order EA games?
>>750990344
insert made up things about my life here
>>750990170
Same.
Played from NA release to just before WotG
>be on Diablous
>be mithran paladin w a OP geared taru blm friend
>be in dragons avery, See RMT and thier freinds fighting Faf. Lol hate everywhere. I 2hr Nid @ 2% who then Flails and wipes Papa Johns and their incompetent RMT friends, I get claim w Flash, BLM friend 2hrs and nukes the last 2%, Ridill and Aegishjalmr drop.
TL:DR
I sometimes miss non-instanced dungeons.
>My LS makes me lvl WAR to use the f'ing Rid.
>>750990448
insert bullshit threats to strangers on the internet here
>>750990210
Oh shit we got an edgester over here
>>750990524
>implying im the same guy
>>750990344
6 years in competitive bjj in Canada and NA/
>>750990177
edgelord over here
how about hit up >>750990052 on CS fucker :^)
>>750990524
shit and I thought we were all millionaire Navy Seals to start with.
>>750980480
>unlock
>pay extra for
>>750979889
You spend 40 hours unlocking jar jar binks. I'll spend 40 hours making bank and banging prime puss.
>>750990655
well shit in that case maybe we have a reason to fuck each other up.
>>750990650
blow me
>>750990757
just because i have my money in bit coin doesnt make me a millionaire nor did i say that, but i do pretty well for myself. and no i have no military training because fuck getting my brains blown out my head or tripping on an i.e.d. for minimum wage when i can make 50$ an hr clearing out asbestos and working haz mat jobs.
>>750990052
You play cs since you are 11 and you dont see how movement in cs differs from cod? How old are you? 12? You'd say run and gun is just as viable? You'd say you have amzing control over your movement in air in cod? And all these sick bhops i landed in cod. Yeah exactly the same. Post your steam already so i can 1v1 your mm-playing public-noob ass right now.
>>750990181
That was not the question noob.
>>750990696
i would but an awful lot can be learned from a steam name im not stupid i've been on this site almost since its inception. i dont feel like having to change my email address and everything else i do on my computer while you slowly chip away at info.
>>750991185
because you worded it wrong
>>750991047
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
>>750991154
where in the fuck did i say it was the same. if you really need 40 hrs for every game you play your retarded. no you cant run and gun in c.s. but you can memorize the bullet patterns for when your running how do you think they blow your head off with an awp while jumping stupid.
I just want to
>play the story
>play as Qui-Gon Jinn
>>750984561
It's true.. I loved the command and conquer series and it went so far down the tubes. The best rts series ever brought to a console is dead.
It's a kind of abstract hell.
>>750991344
har har
>>750990505
i played from about 2 years after UK release, till quite a bit through WotG.
was RDM onry. all subs. one of the best tanks in the game when I was allowed to be, tanked faf/nid as rdm/pld, rdm/nin.
we were claiming all 21-24h mobs almost all the time, selling drops for 27m, cleaning over 100m a week and selling it back to the RMT. a few hundred bucks a week each back in the day.
good times. ultimate goal was to beat AV, was big into Sea, but never got anywhere close. then suddenly level cap is 90, everybody can be overlevelled to do all the shit i worked so hard to do through skill, it just killed it for me.
>>750991312
Your awnser is wrong, bot.
The circle jump start is the action performed by the player at the start of strafe jumping, giving a sudden burst of speed, as opposed to gaining speed with regular strafe jumping
>>750991409
Wtf are you talking about? The spraypatterns are next to useless when moving. You have to stand or crouch to shoot accurately. The awp blows your head off because he is lucky. There is no way to consistently pull of jumpshots with an awp. Get out of master guardian before you try to teach people about cs.
>>750991550
i like how you had to google it and was still wrong.
>>750991734
try telling that to pro's
>>750991409
>hahahahahaha
Yeah, the pro's generally only have about 100-200 hours ingame..
oh, wait.
>>750991841
yeah everyone that plays video games gets paid to do it... oh, wait.
>>750991836
Which pro is jumpshooting with awp in a serious game? Except for coldzera lol.
But i mean in general it's not viable. You try to jumpawp people... even for coldzera it's a play that is incredibly lucky and only works 1 time. I mean you can look it up. Im sure 2kliksphillip or how this autist calls himself has made a video about it.
>>750989548
if the base game of shooting ppl in PVP is what you consider non-rewarding monotonous busywork, than maybe you just shouldn't buy games you're not into?
ofc no one disagrees that EA is a shitty profit driven monster, and that all pay to win shit should be restricted to Casinos, online or otherwise.
Srsly EA should just drop all pretenses and pull a Konami. If they wanna make games for profit and only profit, las vegas is full of that.
>>750982420
>pay to win trash
Sounds like you’re a poorfag
>>750992136
its not easy and there is a degree of luck but it is possible to land them 70% of the time, some people even mark the spots on their monitors to do it.
Just don't buy the fucking game to show that we ain't tolerating this scamming anymore. If you really wanted to play it however, at least wait until there's a discount.
EA don't give a fuck about the average gamer's point of view on microtransactions. EA is run by a bunch of greasy old men just trying to profit.
Vote with your fucking wallet! I will definitely not be buying this shit. and it pains me, I'm a huge star wars fan.
>>750991786
I'm not that guy, but a circlejump is a special strafe-jump you do to gain speed in limited space. It's not an outdated synonym or something.
Also i'm>>750991154 and still want the 1v1 offered in>>750990052 , you bitch.
>>750987576
Want to hear the cherry on top?
It actually caps your money earnings if you play too much.
Watch this,
twitch clip: AdorableTenderCrowLitFam
Weep.
>Anyone buying this game is actively contributing to this cancer.
>>750992458
Prove it then...or is it secret knowledge only 40hour pros like you have and nobody ever shared on the internet?
>>750992266
Oh shit. Fucked around and got a triple double
>>750982440
Criterion and Dice still exists what are you on about?
>>750982339
This
>>750982451
Yes i could be 11, that would be more underage than 13!
>>750992630
oh i never said i could do it. in fact im garbage with the awp, im saying ive seen it done. i prefer the famas, bullpup, auto-shotty or the standard ak.
>>750992552
im not posting my steam name so a bunch of fuck wits can spam me. i havent exactly made friends in the last 30 mins
>>750992543
Yep the real problem is dumbasses with money. Any idiot can just go get a degree or a job without knowing anything about the real world
>>750993529
>im not posting my steam name so a bunch of fuck wits can spam me. i havent exactly made friends in the last 30 mins
Then dont talk shit.
Also out of curiosity which leagues did you play in? Cause you sound like a fucking low making excuses.
>>750994146
im sorry is your argument "dont talk shit unless your going to leave yourself wide open for attack" because thats what it sounds like. also ive played in FACEIT diamond.
>>750981036
HEY WHY DONT YOU MILK YOUR OWN TITS FAGGOT LMAO
>>750979889
>Get the most down voted comment in Reddit History because your community team does not know how to write an response
What was the comment?
>>750980705
>STWBF2(2005) Had individual match progression that was reset every match
i do not remember this.
Like. you got an elite blaster if you got an X long kill streak and after getting so many kill streeks you just perma unlocked the elite blaster.
same with other gear too.
there was the campagin that reset when you finished it. but thats any game ever.
>>750981857
>One fucking day, EA will destroy itself.
All they have to do is copy paste all the major sports game every year with slightly updated graphics and change the names of players / add new player names in.
NBA, NFL, FIFFA, MLB, NHL are their core. they just shit out a new one every year and they will roll in the cash no matter how much the game is just like last years with now thery is new player number 47 on this team!!!!
>>750995304
Those weapons were the only ones you had to grind for, and you couldn't just buy them to win.
Stronger units and heroes were based only on how well you fought in that particular match.
>>750995693
ok.... and?
it was logical that there was only 1 guy playing as vader and its logical that the player currently the BEST PLAYER ON THE TEAM got access to him first.
It would be retarded to let some scrub muffin who played the game for hours on end every day but still sucked get access to vader and make you loose because while you are leading the team by 20 kills and have the lowest number of deaths you have not unlocked vader yet so the guy with 2 kills and 37 deaths gets to play him and kill no one.
it was a great system that rewarded good players for being good players.
>>750981975
> Making over $50 an hour will do that to someone.
I make $120K, this is bullshit on principle alone.
>>750981014
>Shartholders
>STILL buying anything by EA
you deserve this shit
shut the fuck up you dumb pieces of shit
>>750997705
>muh capitalist pigs
>muh pubicly traded companies
>muh greed
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I just wonder why don't they make a good game and then profit from that. Look at Witcher 3 , one of the best games, maybe not best selling but still. Why can't good AAA come out now.
