ITT: We calmly discuss the merits and detriments of President Donald Trump. When you people devolve into simply name calling, you only appear as autists so let's try to have a civil discussion.
I wasn't really happy with either choice during the election so I didn't vote (that and I couldn't register for a mail-in ballot on time).
I decided to just wait and see what he was capable of. So far I'm not impressed but he has the remaining three years to sort that out and impress. I don't necessarily think he is a horrible person, but I don't quite think of him as a good leader either. It also feels like he hasn't delivered on his campaign promises and has just become "like every other politician" who speaks and doesn't act; the exact opposite of his platform.
While normally I would be in support of tax cuts, I feel as though this is the wrong time to do it. With unemployment so low. Trump and congress should actually raise taxes to curb inflation
I feel he as a president has disconnected the people of this Country from its system, and used social media not as a tool of helping, but as almost a scoreboard. He has, however, shown most people that it doesnt take that much to be president, and poked a big hole in the current voting system, the electoral college
>>750742678
I disagree with the electoral college bit. While it appears to be broken when a candidate can win the popular vote but still lose the election, but without it the majority of the country would not have a say in the presidential election. Only the big cities would matter and the issues they face are not necessarily comparable to other parts of the country. With the EC, states with low populations have much more of a voice than they would have otherwise
>>750742100
He can't seem to handle himself foreign policy-wise, evidenced by Kim Jon Un continually mocking him
>>750742881
geography shouldnt matter more than people
one persons vote should not count more than someone elses because of where they live, but thats exactly how our system works
>>750742100
1.Trump doesn't know what he's doing.
2. The Republicans are fragmented.
3. Trump's policies can't even get off the ground.
We are seeing a true failure just one year into office.
>>750742100
personally my most serious concerns about him first arouse in the presidential debate, when he felt the need to defend his penis size on national television after ted cruz made a metaphor involving his hands in an attempt to illustrate the reality of the POTUS position versus the immense promises donald made.
all politics, religion etc aside, i think it's very hard to argue that he is not deeply insecure.
btw fun fact: he brags about getting 4-5 hours of sleep a night. that is simply not sufficient sleep for anyone, and he exhibits all the symptoms of sleep deprivation.
>>750743351
*arose
>>750743186
>geography
thinks it's only geography
A fat goddamn pile of steaming dogshit. Fuck you.
>>750743186
But it should matter. Without the EC, NYC, Miami, LA, Houston etc. would decide the election every time so the EC is a good compromise to 90% of the country that is not a city. States with much higher populations still get much more influence but the proportion of influence small states get is much higher than it would be. That's why the EC was created. Geography mattered a lot to the founding fathers, which is why senators were originally indirectly elected. They recognized that what was best for the most populated areas was not necessarily best for the state as a whole
>>750742100
his daughter converted to jewish.
>>750742100
the most disastrous administration in over a century. He had an opportunity when he came into office to try to unite. He chose to divide. and i do mean choose. He has demonstrated repeatedly that he will always choose self preservation over country. Today is just another example.
>>750743335
>3. Trump's policies can't even get off the ground.
not sure if false flagging faggot
>>750743351
This is not a president, it is a profound humiliation.
With luck, this fool will precipitate a new Constitutional Congress. Basically the thesis Jerry Farber had in The Student as Nigger, the section where he was supposedly smoking dope with then-Governor Reagan and St Ronnie admitted that his purpose was to galvanize a revolution. It was a calming fantasy back then, sadly never brought to fruition.
>>750743592
His great-grandmother was jewish already.
>>750743558
WHY should it matter. WHY is someone from bumfuck nowhere entitled to MORE of a say than me?
there's just no way to justify it.
>>750742881
The system is set up to avoid the pitfalls of a direct democracy which turns into mob rule. The electoral college is a system that represents western culture and it's focus on individual freedoms that are guaranteed no matter the majority consensus.
>>750743351
the fact that you don't even know the history of your most serious concern is...concerning. It was Marco Rubio that said at a campaign stop that Donald Trump had small hands and that "you know what that means". Soon after was the debate and Trump fired back. He said that it was people like Rubio that were the real crass ones. He said that his hands were normal size and that there were no problems with his dick either. So you should re watch that debate.
Also Trump has always slept very little. But he also has never had a cup of coffee or a beer. He's straight edge as fuck.
>>750743558
The popular vote is the only fair way to do it. And progressives live in rural areas. The Electoral College basically negates their vote against the winner. This is not a fair system.
>the Senate
it's possible we might eliminate it as well and rebuild the Capitol to have one large chamber for what would basically be Parliament.
>>750743558
"living in the country means my opinion matters more" defend this opinion with logic.
>>750742100
The coming of God-Emperor was foretold almost a century ago.
>>750743685
ivanka wasnt born or raised jewish. she chose to do that, and he supported it.
>>750743608
>faggot
you were asked by OP to avoid this kind of language/attitude
Pls re-phrase your comment
>>750743558
why dont you move to a city like everyone else and be normal?
>>750743697
it's a union of states
why should central states never have a say in NATIONAL policy because of the coasts?
don't be a spoiled entitled dickhead
>>750742100
I did not vote for him but what I do love about him is he has this amazing ability to get people to expose who they truly are. I use to vote Democrat but after seeing how the Democratic party and their supporters have conducted themselves post-trump, I will never vote for them again. The left left me.
>>750743766
Sure. Change the College system. But do it the only way you can, by changing the Constitution.
Good luck with THAT, progfag. Kek.
>>750743719
Kinda shot itself in the foot, then, didn't it? That wily system!
>>750743931
because nobody lives there..
>>750742100
anyone that dislikes him takes life too seriously, debate me.
He tweets really important information and denounces the free press, which has never resulted in anything bad ever. I love him.
>>750744024
okay, start the debate. why shouldn't we take life seriously?
>>750743767
>>750743766
>>750743697
You're blowing this "rural fag gets more of a vote than me" mentality out of proportion. Look at California, the most populated state, with its 55 electoral votes to montanas 3. They still hardly have a say but they still deserve a little influence because they are part of the union. Without the EC they wouldn't mean shit and the issues important to them would never get addressed
>>750743931
because it's fundamentally unfair and unacceptable for one persons vote to count for more than someone elses, especially for a shit reason like where they live
>>750743931
why should their votes count for more because there are fewer people in them?
1 person, 1 vote.
>>750743797
Mencken correctly observed just how wrong society can go if the 1% were allowed to be in charge of it.
>>750743921
I do live in a city, I just believe in the systems the founding fathers set up
>>750743952
Stop electing Republicans. Democrats will do what the people want if they're not distracted by Republicans saying "no" all the fucking time.
>>750743981
this. you fuckers and your "coastal elites" more than half the country lives in those cities - including the liberal ones in the middle of the country btw - and way more than half of the economic activity takes place there too. nobody cares about your empty fields in western nebraska.
>>750744091
they deserve exactly as much influence as everyone else. states aren't living entities, people are.
>>750744217
this
>>750744189
I dont. back in those days they thought they could cure cancer with leeches. what the fuck did they know?
>>750743825
Judaism is in their blood. Friedrich's mother (Donald's great-grandmother) was ashkenazi.
>>750744217
Too funny. Read the collected works of Pelosi & Schumer, and then come back as tell me who says "no". Moron.
>>750743959
Not at all. It worked as it should. The entire US was represented proportionately and not just the large population centers. If you were a politician and we just did the majority vote, all you would have to do is cater to the major cities and screw over everyone else. This is just another set of checks and balances.
What we really should talk about is why US citizens from US territories have no vote in these elections.
>>750744084
because it doesn't amount to anything in the long run, the goal of life is to enjoy yourself to the fullest.
>>750744316
dude stop. trump isnt a nazi, enough of this already.
>>750744091
they get two fucking senators, dummy. that's the way it works. wyoming voters still get way more say per capita in congress than californians do.
>>750742100
He comes from a very select, entitled culture and espouses the ideology of that upbringing. His economic policy is close to a century old and has failed repeatedly. I don't care about how he got into office, I care that now that he's there he's making the same mistakes all corporate centric politicians make. He's cutting taxes and ignoring revenue and infrastructure.
>>750743685
>>>/pol/ your containment board is that way
>>750743931
An imperfect union of states wherein the Senate gives each sovereign state equal weight while the House of Representatives reflects more of a one-corporation-one-vote distribution.
>>750744217
>Democrats will do what the people want
Yeah, the people in NYC and LA.
I have no desire to do what those people want.
>>750744323
national elections effect everyone though. it's not about catering to cities, it's about people. what you're saying is we need to give people more control than others so that they can block things that benefit more people. not acceptable.
>>750743766
>The Electoral College basically negates their vote against the winner.
The electoral college voted almost entirely in line with the will of the voters. Where they didn't, it wasn't for Trump. The harpy lost because her support was too concentrated in a few urban areas.
>>750742100
I don't feel that it matters who has office or what that person promises. Goldman Sachs, the Rothschilds, et al make sure everything is business as usual regardless of who is the figurehead.
>>750744506
and? people are people. just because more of them live in one place doesn't mean they're entitled to less weight
>>750744091
Those states with 3-5 Electoral votes add up, anon. And look at Michigan. The cities should decide elections there. They are the center of commerce.
>>750744141
you have google
use it to understand why this system was put into place
you're not to first luminary to suggest 'muh vote'
>>750744151
Have you read his The American Language? He is the perfect curmudgeon. In that work he points out that black folks in his area named their daughters "LaUrine".
>>750744646
Except that the people in the coastal cities have an enormous contempt for rural people. Just reading some of the comments in this thread will show you that.
I don't want a bunch of urban liberals to decide what happens in my state.
>>750744506
You should look at a political map of the US sometime, anon.
NY and CA aren't the only liberal states in the Union.
>>750744217
Please don't talk like that. You sound like a Soros shill.
The electorate college has representatives based on actual population for each state taken by census. So, a candidate can win the popular vote, but still must win the states based on population to win the election. So whenever anyone says, "But they won the popular vote." That does not mean anything because we all know how the lection process works. There would be a lot more voting in solid color states than what we see if this was not the case.
>>750744383
Jawohl, mein Herr!
>>750744820
Obama was not a Demagogue because did not know what kind of shit he was throwing at the wall in hopes of it sticking.
>>750744599
"Winner takes all" means my vote didn't count if my candidate loses.
That is not a fair system, anon.
>>750744217
^learned nothing
clinton mk1 didn't give a damn about you
mk2 is no better
>>750744383
Tod für den Mexikanishikeit!
>>750744768
i understand why it was put in place originally
i don't think you do.
it was a compromise set up because that was the only way rural states would agree to it, not because the majority thought it was fair.
>>750744831
the exact opposite it true too. the people in the coastal cities are fucking pissed at how the republicans with their rural support base are fucking this country.
i don't want you backwoods conservatards blocking progress.
>>750742100
He's not smart
he doesn't understand politics, economics, insurance, or business.
His tax cuts favor himself and the rich
He's totally corrupt
>>750744892
This is why we need more parties in control. The 2016 election was a disastor with two equally awful candidates. George Washington warned in his farewell address that political parties would ruin the country which they are in the process of doing so. One side is moving towards communism while the other is moving towards fascism. IMO Bernie and Kasich, two individuals disgusted with their parties, should break and form their own parties. With no majority in congress compromise would be forced and then maybe everyone wouldn't hate each other so much
>>750744459
Only the JIDF is welcome on /b/.
>>750745019
sorry anon, no participation awards in that race
He's accomplished basically nothing so far. And his tax plan is a giveaway to the rich that exacerbates the deficit, at a time when we should be raising taxes on the rich and gathering a surplus.
>>750744599
>The harpy lost
OP asked you not to engage in this kind of autistic character assassination, anon.
And the simple fact is the majority of the county cast their vote for Clinton.
>>750744847
It was obviously hyperbole, be cause it's easier to make a gneral statement than write a fucking thesis about electoral demography.
But it's definitely a growing trend, the rural inland states feel disenfranchised by the coastal states. People out here distrust the federal government and don't like being dictated to.
It will probably reach a breaking point soon.
>>750742100
>autist
>>750745019
No system is fair, anon. Seriously. Occam's Razor should be your guide.
>>750744965
Honestly, as horrible as it would be for the browns and blacks, this would absolutely save the country.
>>750745104
>it was a compromise set up because that was the only way rural states would agree to it, not because the majority thought it was fair.
nothing's changed. you think new mexico wants to ruled by the LA basin?
>>750744383
*Facepalm* Ashkenazi does not mean Nazi just cuz it has the word in it.
>>750745225
she's not in this thread.
or is she....?
>>750744831
>Except that the people in the coastal cities have an enormous contempt for rural people.
I'm a liberal. I live in the country. I don't hate rural people, I am one. I hate ignorance and the political right is destructive to my community.
He's a pathological liar who has no real concept of policy, diplomacy, or even a general idea of what he wants for the country.
He has monetized the Presidency in a way never before seen: the office of the President is now just a vehicle for making his family more wealthy.
It's not that he's a white-supremacist. He simply doesn't care. If pandering to the 14-88 crowd gets him more votes, then that's cool with him.
When raced with resistance, he will bluff.
When the bluff fails, he will lie, no matter how obvious the lie is.
When caught in the lie, he will attack. Every time.
Personally, I wouldn't trust someone with such obvious character flaws to be a supermarket cashier.
>>750744383
jesus christ. i can't even imagine being as stupid as you are. how do you manage to put pants on in the morning?
>>750745115
So is Obama. The difference is that Obama is really suave about his corruption while the Resident Dump is a FRONT-STABBER!!! (to borrow an expression from his friend The Mooch). Ehh!
>>750745104
>I don't want you backwards conservatards blocking progress
This is the attitude I'm talking about. You can't seem to open your mouth without vomiting a bunch of hate towards the people who grow your food and keep your lights on.
Also... progress towards what exactly? A bigger welfare state? More immigrants? Your version of progress seems to be hell bent on destroying the fabric of American society.
>>750745461
correct
>>750745405
How are they destructive to your community?
If you live in a rural area, then conservatives ARE your community. What are they doing that you think is so bad?
>>750745123
There's an article in Gore Vidal's Homage to Daniel Shays where he says that the Republicans and the Democrats are merely two wings of the same party, the party of The Haves. He claimed that, when voter turn-out drops below some level, a new Constitutional Congress will be triggered in order for the people to recover their country.
>>750744892
>they both suck
no they don't. And the past 8 years would have been even better if there were less Republicans in office shouting "no" at every policy the Democrats were trying to get passed into law.
>>750743934
So much this. I switched to Republican mid debate after I saw how Democrats really were. The shit they did to Sanders was ridiculous.
So I voted for Trump. Country is better off for it, except for those ultra progressives who want change for changes sake. Trump is a strong leader. When was the las time a President was invited to dine at the Forbidden City?
The more Democrats show their asses and their overall lack of complete fucking sense, the more we will vote in presidents like Trump. Y'all done fuckrd up.
>>750745524
obama isn't corrupt. there was never any hint of a scandal about his administration vis a vis corruption. trump has been in office for less than a year and he's already done more shady shit to put money in his own pocket than anyone in history. most corrupt administration since nixon or harding.
what i love is how you fucking rubes have convinced yourselves that the best way to stick it to the coastal elites is to give them a giant fucking tax break, and then give their corporations huge fucking tax breaks, too. that'll show em.
>>750745267
>>750745813
correct
>>750745213
49% of the vote should matter.
We need to abolish the Electoral College.
>>750745326
you think the LA basin wants to instead be ruled by new mexico?
>>750745820
Were you a sanders supporter? Because how it seemed to me was that the DNC took his hard earned crap and gave a portion of it to someone who was less deserving of it which is kinda the core of socialism
>>750745237
That's a bare assertion, anon. Liberals like me live in rural areas, and we don't like the politics here.
>>750745269
Trump is corrupt, though. How did he get elected?
>>750744234
>>>750743981
>this. you fuckers and your "coastal elites" more than half the country lives in those cities - including the liberal ones in the middle of the country btw - and way more than half of the economic activity takes place there too. nobody cares about your empty fields in western nebraska.
Except the Nebraskins. Are you really this dumb? Electoral college was set up so a few crowded cities didn't dictate policy for the whole country.
If you think that's wrong then you're a huge part of the problem. I don't want LA or NYC liberalism dictating my life, nor should it.
It's not now nor ever going to change, and a bunch of retarded cock gobblers in crowed, shitty urban areas whining isn't going to do anything but provide entertainment for the rest of us.
Get the fuck over it.
>>750745303
No, it won't. The proletarian class needs to be educated in history and critical thinking -- only then can the country be saved. The color of one's skin is utterly irrelevant.
Four generations of MuriKKKans have been taught to feel instead of to think. Everything is a lifestyle statement for them now. No one is able to cooperate. And now that intellectual cancer is about to be unleashed on the rest of the world.
>>750746224
This
asians > arabs > blacks > whtie women > white boys
since trump was elected the ugly alt-right kek trolls have become increasingly ostracized. it's only a matter of time now till society at large will turn a blind eye to their extermination.
>>750745621
Because thanks to conservatives we are still politically in the 1950s, all because liberalism offends some old Boomer oligarchs who can't give up their power structures.
>>750746024
hard earned? he lost by 4 million votes in the primary. he got btfo.
>>750745375
Purely coincidence, as you say.
>>750745326
The idea of a federation is that each state is sovereign within its own borders. Neither LA nor NM should rule one another. Only in questions that are common to both should both be consulted.
>>750746120
Why is that?
Also, you do know that natives in rural states can't stand out of state liberals moving in and wanting to turn Wyoming or Montana into a miniature california, right? Most of us would rather you stayed with your own kind.
>>750745530
progress towards reducing income inequality and not allowing the rich and corporations to run roughshod over everyone else, reversing counterproductive criminal justice policy, not allowing the environment to be trashed, and many other things.
don't lump everyone together. i'm no fan of identity politics, support expanding gun rights instead of reducing them, and favor restricted immigration.
but the small amount of areas i agree with the right doesn't make up for their egregious awefulness on 90% of their platform.
>>750745855
Hmm...no hint of corruption from Obama administration. Wonder why? Maybe cause the majority of MSM was busy sucking his cock?
Have you not seen the shit that's come out about his admin after he left and those who were protecting him got the boot?
Damn dude, do you read silently while moving your lips too? Holy shit.
>>750746436
You are making bare assertions. And the rural area I'm living in is in a land boom, so that must mean they want people moving here. :^)
>>750746336
stay mad, white bitch boi
>>750746224
>Electoral college was set up so a few crowded cities didn't dictate policy for the whole country.
Soooo a city voter's vote should count less than a rural voter's vote? How does that make sense? Why should some rancher in Wyoming dictate the life of a student in Boston?
>>750746336
>>750746565
>autism
adults are talking politics here anons
>>750746300
I'm completely cetrain that that rural conservative community was doing great before you moved there, and your arrival has done nothing except annoy the locals.
You didn't answer my question either. How do conservatives negatimely affect your life? Vague answers about "holding back progress" are not actual answers.
>>750746224
"More people disagree with me than agree with me, therefore my vote should count for more so my minority position is more important than the majority"
>>750746024
I was leaning towards Sanders, yes. Then I started focusing on Trump and what he said made more sense than a 70 year old Jewish guy who never passed legislation and preached socialism while having several vacation homes. Got tired of Democrat hypocrisy.
>>750746224
and nobody in the places where people actually live wants to be ruled by your religious fundamentalism, racism, and homophobia.
if you actually believed in federalism, north carolina wouldn't have prevented charlotte from passing their expansion of bathroom usage for trans people. same with houston's policy and texas. but everytime you guys get in power it's heartbeat bills on abortion and laws that are just fucking shitty to lgbt people. and then the gop pushes tax cuts for the wealthy - who you guys claim to hate - and you're just too fucking stupid to see it.
listen, your shitty life in the country sucks. i get it. but stop being a whiney little bitch about it and move somewhere where there are jobs and culture - like a city.
but you don't. you sit there and you piss and moan and worry about where trans people are taking a shit when it doesn't affect you. nobody tells you that you can't go to church.
>>750745326
So why should Colorado, Washington, and Oregon be ruled by the Wyoming-Nebraska-Kansas coalition? You haven't stated why that's better than letting people determine who political leaders are.
>>750745461
>monetized the Presidency in a way never before seen
I would respectfully disagree here. The Clintons made eight billion dollars from monetizing their presidency. Obama has played his cards very close to his vest. The Resident Dump differs by being coarse and vulgar about his abuses.
>>750746665
>my computer wasn't quite working right one day, i tried everything and just couldn't get rid of the problem. then this guy says, 'well you should set it on fire and urinate on it'. nothing else worked, so i did.
>>750746652
Not who you're replying to, but I live in Mississippi. Liberals didn't make this place a shithole.
>>750746652
Your attitude is based on bare assertions anon. We are discussing facts here.
Please refrain from this patronizing line of discussion.
>>750746652
>How do conservatives negatimely affect your life?
1. They don't accept man-made climate change
2. They are resistant to socially progressive policies
3. Their economics are oppressive and self-serving
>>750746650
adults discuss politics in public forums with learned colleagues. scared, sissy white boys vent their uneducated opinions on anonymous message boards.
>>750745855
>obama isn't corrupt
The only reason he would have promoted so much warfare would be for profit. War brings no honor upon the US nor does it improve the US's standing in the world.
>>750747033
>scared, sissy white boys
again you were asked by OP to refrain from this kind of posting
do not reply to me again if you are not going to discuss the issues as OP intended
thank you
>>750746665
>70 year old Jewish guy who never passed legislation
>preached socialism
>having several vacation homes
lol so you know absolutely nothing about what you're talking about, thank god you voted.
>>750742100
Yeah merits.. this is your god.
>>750746181
See Mencken at
>>750743797
>>750746608
God damnit stop eating the fucking paint chips.
It's not about a 1:1 balance.
It takes the polling from the country as a whole.
You can crowd 10 million people in an area, sit one political party there (Democrats) push policies and propaganda to the point where everyone votes the same, and swing an entire election based of of a few cities.
News flash, cock stain: this is a nearly 400 million person strong country. Not all of them live in LA, NYC, Miami, or Seattle.
You cannot base a NATIONAL election off of small pockets here and there.
Our constitution has remained intact because the dudes who wrote it actually knew what the fuck they were doing. It's why we had a successful revolution that spanned into a country 250 years after the fact.
It blows my mind how little fucking history most Americans know.
It will not ever change. Again, get the fuck over it.
>>750747033
Why are you hear?
>>750747074
This was Obama's inexperience with dealing with military brass.
You don't just show up in office and start ordering around generals, especially those who believe that Afghanistan and Iraq were worth holding onto.
And then there's the NSA.
The President doesn't have the power you think he has. Bush agreed with the warmongers. Obama had to play a cautious game, and still managed to get us out of Iraq at least.
>>750746455
or there just wasn't any?
>>750744563
And to do that you have to tell people that your voice and those of your friends are more important then theirs, so they need to just shut up and live the way you want them to live. Also unacceptable
>>750747134
>summer homes
And what did Trump have?
>>750745898
>>750745267
>>750746455
i'd just love to see what you're referring to. actual news sources, not some blog run out of moscow, either.
>>750747313
I'm all for avoiding war but we should have stayed in Iraq. we have ISIS because of this
>>750747268
>It will not ever change. Again, get the fuck over it.
it's actually pretty arrogant to assume the Founding Fathers wouldn't have noticed the flaws in the system they designed, anon.
If they lived today they would have abolished the Electoral College because it is undemocratic.
>>750747313
There is a more nefarious motive in warfare, anon. It is always provoked by greed. Ask yourself: What war has your country fought that was morally justified?
>>750747542
We have ISIS because Bush invaded Iraq. We could have stopped it, but Republicans put the fear into everyone after 911.
>>750747683
This is true but I wasn't arguing for going in, I was arguing against leaving
>>750747627
Just going by the available facts, anon. Obama did try to stand up to his generals on a few occasions, and they put the muscle to him to change his mind.
>>750747542
okay, so i know this is hard, but stay with me. isis was started as al qaeda in iraq, which didn't exist until we invaded. the problem started because we invaded the wrong fucking country after 9/11 because bush and his fucking team of morons wanted to go play with their toys in the sand.
not to worry tho. the strategy obama put in place to destroy isis was working before he left, and trump kept it in place after that cause he's too stupid to have any ideas of his own. as a result, isis is pretty much over.
>>750747206
In an ass-backward kinda way, I respect the fact that he just doesn’t care what he says and people think of him. “Sure, I play president for as long as these fools buy my shit.”
>>750744141
Fags like this shouldn't be allowed to vote
I like that he has actually attempted to do a lot of the stuff he ran on like the travel ban. When you ignore the people that are acting like they are resisting hitler and making a huge deal about everything just to complain I think he's been alright so far. I'm normally left leaning and I didn't actually vote this past election, but seeing the way people have been reacting to Trump has kind of made me weirdly glad that he won especially since I've been finding that I don't really agree with a lot of the ideology the left is pushing now.
>>750745019
That's the way your state has it set up, not the Federal Government. Make your state change their system to where your congressional districts determine who receives that EC vote instead of a winner take all scenario. That make it more fair and representative of your wants while preserving others right to be heard more clearly also. Or is that just unfair to you?
>>750747763
>Iraq
We didn't belong there, the elected government didn't want us there.
>>750747854
The Constitution would not allow your proposal either. The Electoral College is Winner Take All by sheer definition.
>>750747438
>>750745898
>>750745267
>>750747840
>I'm normally left leaning
but you have no problem with Trump violating the US Constitution with his ban on Muslim travel?
>>750744143
Also shouldn't be allowed to vote. Don't even understand how the system works
>>750742100
>Merits
Told TPP to fuck off, allegedly the cause behind job market improvements, improved border security. Will likely be the catalyst for increased numbers of democrat voters in 2020. Bonus points for keeping Hillary out after she cheated the DNC.
>Detriments
Authoritarian, social conservative, anti-intellectual, and pro-fossil fuel mentalities on the rise. If he's out before 2020, might allow Pence in office (at which point regicide becomes necessary).
>inb4 libcuck
You must be 18 to post on this site.
>>750747803
fags like you shouldn't be allowed to vote either, but as long as we both are, you shouldn't get more weight than me.
>>750747313
woah woah woah
>You don't just show up in office and start ordering around generals, especially those who believe that Afghanistan and Iraq were worth holding onto.
this is exactly what trump did. obama was a united states senator who served on the armed services committee. trump was a blowhard on twitter and a gameshow host because the banks wouldn't give him any more money to bankrupt casinos. jesus you people are so fucking dumb it's scary.
>>750748015
>Told TPP to fuck off
The TPP was already DOA if Clinton would have won as well.
Not much of a victory.
>allegedly
nope
We are still riding on the wave of economic prosperity when Obama left office.
Trump simply hasn't done anything to fuck it up yet.
>Hillary cheated the DNC
there is literally no evidence of this
>>750748041
my point is that Obama respected the office of Commander in Chief
Trump kept asking during briefings if he could order nuclear strikes
>>750748340
You got a source on that?
>>750746736
Aww man, too easy.
So, I have to be a religious fundamentalist to disagree with babies being killed by stupid cunts who can't keep it in their pants till they figure out their fucjing life, and I have to pay for it? Nope.
I have to agree with fucking perverts looking like gorillas in tank tops pretending to be women sharing the same bathroom space as my daughter? Nope.
Progressive thought used to have a purpose. Woman's suffrage, civil rights, etc. Those are good progressive ideals. The shit being tossed out now has nothing to do with human rights, I areas its pandering to the lowest common denominator in order to garner votes.
Who said I or those that think like me want taxes pushed on the wealthy? What's that serve? Discourages many from trying to achieve wealth, which pushes this CAPITALIST country forward.
The problem is, fundamentally, that the Democratic party has raised a generation(s?) of people accustomed to blaming others, taking no responsibility for their own actions, and aschew hard work for "their fair share".
I'm not rich, I grew up poor as fuck, but I've worked my ass off to get what I have, and I did it without help. If that's this "white privilege" shit that the left is pushing now, the it further illustrates how out of touch with actual fucking reality they and those who stupidly vote for them are.
Also, morals are a good thing to have. You don't have to go to church or believe in God to have them. You really just need common sense.
Killing babies is bad. Pretending your friend is one of 800 genders is bad.
If you don't know why, well...youre beyond the help that words on 4Chan could ever provide.
>>750746736
>>750746224
Agree with you. After reading these post I think people to learn how the election works before being able to vote. This shirt is scary. Do they not teach this in schools anymore?
>>750748200
>Not much of a victory.
OP didn't say anything about the merits meaning a lot.
>We are still riding on the wave of economic prosperity when Obama left office.
If you have proof of this claim I'd enjoy the read.
>there is literally no evidence of this
The joint fundraising agreement was put in place specifically to force favor towards her and keep anyone else running out of the public's view where possible, you know that.
>>750746819
Work on your analogies more bro
>>750748402
>>750748402
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/03/donald-trump-asked-why-us-cant-use-nuclear-weapons-if-he-becomes/
>>750747772
Obama probably thinks of himself as G. K. Chesterton described himself: not so much a good man as a friend to goodness.
Obama dishonored his Nobel prize every twenty fucking minutes of his eight fucking years. That's not something that can be chalked up to "oops, my generals made me do it again!".
He is also deeply connected to the Chicago machine. He received one of their fixers in the Oval Office more than three hundred times. The real difference between Barry and Donny is that one is slick and the other is a boor. Also Barry will get to keep all his booty and not wind up in jail.
>>750747134
Lol, that all you got? The fuck outta here with that weak shit.
>>750748574
>>We are still riding on the wave of economic prosperity when Obama left office.
>If you have proof of this claim I'd enjoy the read.
It's what's happening, anon. Trump has not initiated any legislation that would prove he is behind the economic prosperity.
This is Obama's legacy.
>>750748574
There is no evidence Clinton did anything with the DNC to "cheat" anyone. You really need to stop believing disinformation.
>>750748581
why? it's a perfect equivalence for people who voted for trump because of problems with the democrats
>>750748406
>babies being killed by stupid cunts who can't keep it in their pants till they figure out their fucjing life, and I have to pay for it?
First off, abortion is only one of the many things Planned Parenthood does and most abortions are done for medical reasons.
>gorillas in tank tops pretending to be women sharing the same bathroom space as my daughter?
Who gives a fuck what gender someone believes they are? It doesn't effect you. I think it's dumb too but I'm not gonna tell someone they can't live a certain way.
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>750747476
Read anything not CNN, MSNBC or any other left-wing rag that has been proven countless times in the last year alone to have their own political agenda.
It's really not hard man.
>>750748760
yeah, the former chair of the DNC explicitly saying it was rigged and unethical is just disinformation
>>750748200
Seriously dude! You can't be this deluded?
Hil was a huge TPP supporter. She only switched sides because she saw the way that public opinion was blowing. Had she been elected, she'd have had another change of heart and TPP would be here to stay.
This "wave of prosperity" only began during Obama's twilight, because the business sector knew that he was on his way out and they began to start investing in growth again, now that they didn't have to worry about him regulating them to death.
As for Hil and the DNC collusion. I guess the fact that a former head of the DNC that witnessed this and who is now speaking about it isn't good enough for you? Then you must believe that the Trump/Russia allegations are BS, because there is no evidence of those either.
>>750747979
>>750747438
>>750745898
>>750745267
>>750748760
>>750748643
>Obama dishonored his Nobel prize
The reason they awarded the Prize to Obama is because he was regarded as an intelligent leader, unlike Bush. You miss the symbolism entirely.
> the Chicago machine.
>Barry and Donny
your insistence that both are somehow comparable, let alone cut from the same cloth, is disingenuous.
There is no proof the 2008 Election was rigged in his favor, anon. Clinton nearly beat him.
>>750747935
How your state divvies up its EC votes is up to the state, it's not set up in the Constitution. Not every state has a winner take all scenario with its EC votes it's given. So if your state does, get the votes to change it in a way that it reps you better. That's how you fix that problem, not by eventually forcing others to live the way you think they should based on your opinions
>>750742100
Pros: Wall
Cons: "China"
>>750748848
There is literally nothing Donna Brazile said or published that shows that Clinton cheated or "rigged" primaries, either.
You really need to let it go. Trump won.
>>750748017
Smh, this is really sad. Why don't you read up on how the election and voting works? Please, if you actually care about your vote and our country.
>>750742100
Best thing about his presidency is, in 2020 literally everything will be Democratically controlled.
>>750748406
you claim to hate the coastal elites, yet you want to hand them trillions of dollars in tax cuts. you can't read too good.
>>750742634
I completely agree.
>>750748850
Doesn't matter. Clinton was not going to push the TPP, it was done.
>a former head of the DNC witnessed collusion
Politics is a dirty game, anon. Sanders still won 40% of the vote on his own, and it was his fault alone he didn't get enough people to vote for him.
>>750747614
I'm quite certain they could ascertain the impact large cities had on elections. Big cities thinking in a certain political way isn't something that's happened only in the last 200 years. Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, or the others didn't look to history and the pitfalls there when making this country?
>>750748406
>talks about morals
>supports trump
sorry, dude, but pick one
>>750749035
They said that that was the best thing about him running in 2016...
>>750748995
i know how it works, i'm saying i don't think the way it works is fair.
>>750748990
yes there is. i think she still was a better choice than trump, but won't ignore that the primary was rigged.
>>750748926
>>750748926
Anon asked you to refrain from this kind of autistic nonsense, OP.
I am not Russian, nor am I a troll.
There is literally no evidence Hillary Clinton rigged the Primaries in her favor. It is irrational to believe this.
He's the first president in a long time to actually put his country's needs before others, the same way leaders do all over the world without being called racists. He wants trade deals to actually benefit his country, he wants out of ridiculous environmental protection deals that will do nothing to help the environment but give competitors an edge. I admire that.
Unfortunately, he's a buffoon. He rants like a child and makes even his supporters question his state of mind.
Still, he's far better than the alternative in literally every way. And I don't care if my leader is an ass, as long as he enacts policies that actually help the country.
>>750748961
Anon, every state is winner take all. That's how the system works.
Name even one example of your claim.
There are none.
>>750748929
So now the Nobel prizes are symbolic?
>>750749126
Big cities are centers of commerce, anon. Rural areas not so much.
>>750748796
Yes you are, your telling them that they have to live with a guy pissing in the same room as their daughter. If that's not telling someone they can't have their life the way they want it, I don't know what is.
>>750749035
that's not really a good thing considering the democratic party is in complete disarray. the only thing unifying them is the same thing that unifies the republicans.
>you're either with us or against us
we need more bipartisan bills, and we need a realistic democratic leader to show through, and we need a clear and concise democratic ideology because it's unfair to the voter for us to vote in some dems just because we don't like the crony-capitalism that the republicans are enforcing.
it's a shitty time for politics now, and it's not that the previous times were better or whatever, it's shitty because they're just so OBVIOUS about their nepotism and cronyism and everything else and can't even fake the moral scruples.
>>750748406
>i have literally no empathy
Tell us about your mother, anon.
>>750749176
>The DNC primaries were rigged in favor of Clinton
There is simply no evidence of this, anon.
>>750749270
Maine and Nebraska
He has no morals and ethics
He hasn't got the integrity to lead a nation through any crisis
He lies constantly
I hate his hair
If the USA makes it through his presidency without going into a recession I'd be impressed by americans, not him
>>750749293
They always were, anon.
I think becoming president was a worst possible scenario for Trump and that he was blind sided by it as much as everyone else was.
His plan was to let Clinton win the election and to use the furver of his bases outrage at her win to make a quick buck.
Bare in mind he'd planned to work with Sheldon Aidalson to make a "fox news" style media organization for himself, but all of that went up in smoke when he became president.
To make matters worse for him, being president puts you under an huge amount of scrutiny and given his past failings as a business man there is no way he hasn't been doing something shady to maintain his wealth and its only a matter of time till that gets dragged out. Regardless as to whether or not he actively colluded with Russia, it is a known fact he has had dealing with them. Even if its indirectly the outlook on such things are ground for people like Mueller to go after him.
The saddest part is Trump could have avoided all of this trouble if he had simply divested his wealth. Then even if Mueller found anything he would have at least been able to say "Yeah I had dealings like that in the past, but now I am president."
TLDR Trump is in a tough spot. He was prepared to have that power, but not the restrictions and scrutiny that comes with it.
>>750749176
Seriously you don't though if you think going with the popular vote is. And I live in atlanta
>>750749035
That's somewhat overly optimistic, but it matters little. While everyone is busy shitting themselves over what Trump tweeted today, he's been filling the open federal court judgeships with Republicans. The decades that liberal activists/politicos have spent turning the judiciary into a mechanism to invalidate anything that they don't like will come back to bite them in the ass, big time.
>>750748796
The point you're missing, the point a LOT of people are missing, is that it isn't about them living their lives. It's about forcing others to go along with it.
If you wanna be a unicorn pan sexual gender fluid squirrel that's your business. Don't force me to participate in your fantasy or dictate social policy on it's behalf. Not gonna happen.
>>750748990
He won! He won! Goddamit he won! Why don't the 70% of the country who are retards don't understand??
>>750749361
They're states with low Electoral Count. So what?
We need TX, CA, NY, and FL to have systems where candidates can each have takeaways based on who voted.
>>750749270
Maine and Nebraska.
Now tell me what part of the Constitution says that it has to be winner take all. I'll wait
>>750749356
“I had promised Bernie [Sanders] when I took the position of interim chair of the DNC that I would get to the bottom of whether or not Hillary's team had rigged the party process in her favor so that only she could win the nomination,” Brazile writes, setting the scene for a September 2016 phone call with Sanders. “From the moment I walked in the door of the DNC a month earlier I had my suspicions, based on the leaked emails. But who knew if some emails might have been forged? I needed to have solid proof and so did Bernie.”
Brazile summarizes some of her conclusions in the ensuing paragraph. She credits Clinton for resolving the DNC's debt but asserts that Clinton “expected to wield control of its operation” in return.
Then Brazile writes this: “By September 7, the day I was making this call to Bernie, I had found my proof and what I had found broke my heart.”
how the flying fuck can you say there's no evidence? fucks sake
>>750748929
>>750749293
if you guys think back to the times, they really gave that prize to Obama as a way to say 'hey man, you're a NOBEL PEACE PRIZE WINNER, don't go doing any unnecessary drone strikes or intruding on foreign lands or anything that's not PEACEFUL'.
they gave him that award as a way to say 'hey man we know you're cool, so keep the oval office cool'
>>750749323
Part of life is dealing with other people's bullshit. Allowing someone else to exercise their freedom is not necessarily encroaching on someone else's. You can't please everyone. And a bathroom law is unenforceable and honestly who even pays attention to others in a public restroom. I just try to get out as fast as possible
>>750742100
NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER!
>>750749176
That's why we have electoral votes, cause it's fair.
>>750749144
>as opposed to supporting Hillary and the morals she and her party represent.
Man, its like you're giving me the Konami code in this debate.
>>750749323
Are you stupid? Who fuck cares who is pissing in the same bathroom as you. It's not like girls pee rainbows and boys pee aviation fuel. It's the same fucking thing. Conservatives are just retarded on this issue. Responsible adults don't even need segregated bathrooms, it's just an antiquated social norm.
>>750749494
That doesn't prove the primaries were "rigged."
Let it go, anon.
Let it go.
Sanders lost because he didn't have what it took.
>>750749311
It's fun that you think cities are self sustaining. Where you think half the food comes from to support those cities?
Middle America isn't called the "Bread basket" for nothing. Yawn.
>>750749208
Tovarishch!
>>750749450
You asked for examples and I gave them to you
>>750749450
Don't you dare move the goalposts anon. You said there were none and got proved wrong. End it stupid fuck. You were proven wrong
So get the votes together IN THOSE STATES, to change THEIR rules, not everyone elses
>>750742100
Trump colluded with Russia for a good reason but in a bad way. If we stop suffocating Russia with embargoes and shit like that oil prices will drop in the US again making our economy just a bit more stable. Fun fact, the US runs on oil, and Russia is willing to trade if we stop destroying their economy even more than it already is.
>Inb4 Ukraine
I know. If we start this alliance shit again it'll pull us into another world war. It was immoral and awful but embargoes we're the wrong way to handle it.
>>750749494
The DNC adopted Sanders' ideas into their platform. You are making a disingenuous argument that is very likely based in Russian Propaganda, anon.
>>750749226
>the alternative
Jus' sayin'.
>>750749408
the popular vote isn't perfect either, but it's less unfair than allowing person x to have a vote worth 1.00, and person y to count for 1.1
the solution to problems you allude to, related to tyranny of the majority, are better addressed through other methods.
I am Nambian and I look up to him
>>750749371
>without going into a recession
look at the stock market from December to today, the Dow Jones is up 4,000 points after taking 8 years to raise 10,000. we're in a HUGE bubble right now brought on by optimism from the current administration. so be careful guys
>>750749582
The Electoral College is not fair, particularly when the popular vote contradicts the final tally.
>>750749760
that was written by donna brazile. it's in her book. it's explicitly clear.
the policy changes were to lessen the people turned off by the rigging
>>750749379
And them million dollars, symbolic too? Dooood!
>>750749669
The farmers do their commerce in urban areas, anon.
Cities are the driving economic force of this society. You can deny it all you like.
They should be deciding policy.
>>750749352
I have more empathy than you'd think. My mom's pretty cool actually.
>>750749690
Then why do you think states aren't doing this?
>>750749761
No, there literally was only one alternative.
>>750749561
You didn't present an argument against my accusations of trying to force others to live as you see fit, thereby taking away their right to live how they see fit. You are doing the exact same thing, only for different opinions
>>750749792
Inflation will be the problem in the next few years, not a recession
>>750749728
>End it stupid fuck.
You were asked by OP to refrain from this kind of language/attitude in this discussion.
Neigras
>>750743602
* ring ring * let me just take that call from my new welfare phone obama gave me.
we will pull out of the middle east * pulls some troops out but not all as promised * we need to put more troops in to get rid of ISIS.
* sells guns to saudi's * they are just going to use them for defence * massacre of multiple civilian population's happen * didn't expect that from the religion of peace.
Obama: * see's servalance drones * can we add guns to them and wildly bomb everyone that's brown? general: we could but that would be highly ineffective and lead to many war crimes so I would not advise such. Obama:* signs action to make more drones have guns *
>>750749825
It is fair for that exact reason
It's why we wouldn't elect Kanye for president, because retarded people will vote and we need another deciding factor that understands politics
>>750742100
I didn't do what Russia told me to.
>>750749593
like equality of opportunity, non-discrimination, investment in education and healthcare for everyone, a reduction in the military industrial complex, and a better environment?
oh, but that's right, you're a small government conservative, so you're worried about who's having sex with who, where people shit, and what women do with a clump of cells in their body. oh, and giving rich assholes trillions of dollars in tax cuts, when they've already gotten 90% of the economic growth since the recession.
LIBCUCKS BTFO AGAIN HAHAHAHA
>>750749597
Triggered much? Whys it so important to let a man piss next to a three year old girl?
>>750749597
I do you pedophile
>>750749863
Yes I know, Donna Brazile is trying to sell a book.
There is still no proof that Clinton had even an unfair advantage over Sanders, anon.
You've been asked to drop this several times now.
>>750749511
Yeah, but then they gave Robert Zimmermann the prize for literature. He's a fucking tambourine man who sings out of tune, no concept of literature at all.
>>750749864
You seem awfully upset that Obama got a Nobel Prize, anon.
The rest of us got over it years ago.
>>750750011
Because in his mind he is a female and I don't feel it's the governments job to tell him he's wrong
>>750749950
If some people didn't show their ass so much it wouldn't happen.
>>750749578
True dat.
>>750748003
The whole ban could have been handled better, but I would like it to be a hell of a lot harder for people from certain parts of the world to enter the U.S. so we have less trucks of peace.
>>750749597
Except for the stories coming out in local news (that left leaning MSM won't cover- funny, no?) about trannies molesting said girls.
Who would've thought letting mentally ill dudes share bathrooms with women and girls would yield that result, no?
>>750749764
It doesn't work like you think it does where one person's vote is worth more because it's broken down by state bro, I'm trying to tell you read up on how the electoral votes work. That's all I'm saying . Just trying to help you
>>750749985
Except you literally have any proof that a popular vote versus a state tally is any smarter than actual democracy.
KP2020
>>750749930
then inflation leads to depression
>hey your dollar was worth $1, but now it's worth $0.50
that's going to fuck all of those student loan payments
>>750750078
hey i haven't done any research on that, so no idea what to say
>>750750078
You are literally unqualified to judge Bob Dylan on his literary merits, anon.
Sorry.
>>750750063
i take it you think there's no proof the sky is blue either. our eyes and scientific instruments could be mistaken, right
do you hear yourself? the party head admits first hand knowledge of it. and you're saying that not only is it not true, but that there's not even evidence. that *is* the evidence you dumb shit. if you think she's lying, fine, but saying there's *no evidence* is just as stupid as arguing the sky isn't blue or the earth is flat
>>750750127
But what if 100,000 people feel he shouldn't be allowed to piss next to their daughters?
>>750749914
>literally
>>750750185
There is no justification for this sort of ban, anon, and frankly it goes against this country's principles.
>>750749985
>It's why we wouldn't elect Kanye for president,
OH YES YOU WILL!
>>750750200
You mean a direct democracy. I think it's smart the way it's done because that way stupid people have a wall they can't go through.
I think it's dumb the way it's done because there are certain parts of it we don't need anymore.
>>750750264
>do you hear yourself?
This actually applies to you, anon.
There is nothing you've posted that "proves" Clinton "rigged" the primaries.
Sanders lost because he didn't get enough of the vote to secure a Party nomination.
How many times do you need to be reminded of this?
>>750750197
dude you're a fucking moron
electoral votes / population = vote weight per person, and it's true that rural states have a higher weight per vote.
THAT is how the electoral college works, and yes it absolutely is one persons vote being worth more
whether you agree with the reasoning behind that is a totally different issue.
>>750750415
Kek, it's why I hope we don't elect Kanye.
>>750750441
And yet Trump got elected by stupid people
that right there, by your own logic, is why the Electoral College is fail.
>>750750305
Yes, literally only one alternative. It was him or Clinton. There was no chance the others had any hope of winning, meaning they were not true alternatives.
Your conspiracy theory is cute and all but let's stick to facts.
>>750750254
>literally
There's that word again.
>>750750447
no it doesn't prove it, but it's strong evidence.
and sanders didn't get enough of the vote because of anti-competitive actions taken by the DNC.
>>750750415
As long as we have the Citizens United ruling, a Kanye West Presidency is that much more likely.
I like the trump protests, going to them for hours really broadens the vocabulary. HEY HEY HO HO THE WHITE SUPREMACISTS HAVE GOT TO GO HEY HEY HO HO
She was the logical choice
>>750750535
>literally
I love using it. It makes me forget I'm 52. :^)
>>750750538
You need to let it go, anon. You sound like a child pleading with his parents.
Clinton lost, Trump won. That's what we've been facing the past year.
>>750750441
The electoral college helps keep the people free from the tyranny of the majority at a federal level.
The federal government has grabbed too much power, which is a bad thing. But if you want to pass your laws, pass them locally.
I think a lot of city leftists minds would change if they went out and visited their states, and saw who all their legislation would be effecting.
What's good for the city isn't good for the country, and vice versa. Legislate accordingly. Decentralized government is the solution.
>>750750538
>sanders didn't get enough of the vote because of anti-competitive actions taken by the DNC
There is again, literally no evidence of this.
Where in the world is Donnie? In jail. They have a secret deal to keep it out of the press for now.
pic related - his arrest report in DC Federal Court - THIS JUST IN
>>750749371
The business is gonna do great, the people are absolutely not.
>>750750264
Brazile should be thrown in jail, I agree, but speaking as a perceptual psychologist I am constrained to point out that the sky is only blue in our minds. My cat tells me that the sky is an entirely different color.
>>750750734
your cat is a delusional faggot
>>750750734
>my cat talks to me
figures this is something a shrink would post
>>750750457
You're trying to compare electoral votes to individual votes in the popular vote. It's a totally different type of system so you can't compare the weight of the votes to each other
>>750750524
Poor deluded MuriKKKan, please see
>>750749761
>>750750002
I'm all for small government because the government sucks at most everything and the less say they have in our lives the better.
Ever read 1984? That's what happens when government has total control.
Keep thinking Conservaties (most) care who is diddling who.
I have plenty of gay friends. They're awesome as fuck. Even had one as my best man when I got married. What they know, that you apparently don't, is that it isn't cool to push their opinions on others, just like I don't push mine on them.
Regarding healthcare and education:
You're proof the government being involved in education was a mistake and our healthcare system is a joke. Obama care is an abomination. That's why Canadians with their SOCIALISED medicine still come to this country for medical procedures, and our healthcare system sucks even before Obama care.
>>750750508
That's implying that the people that put him in weren't ALL stupid. He took an entire party of people hostage, really. Even I fell for some of the shit he said.
Is he a bad president? Nah. Is he a liar? Yes. Will he ruin the country? Nah. Will anything he wants to do get passed? Hell no. That's mostly why I liked him, because I didn't like Hillary at all and Trump is like a filler president. 3 more years, people. Just wait 3 more years. Nothing will happen.
>>750750841
What other "possibilities," anon?
>>750750704
there literally is evidence.
i don't care if you think donna brazile is making up every word she said out of thin air. the fact that she said it, and was there, means it literally is evidence, even if it is made up (YOU have no evidence she IS lying)
>>750750504
<-- Save this for his candidacy.
