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star trek discovery
*pukes*
Is the acting supposed to be completely horrendous across the board? Like, is that part of the "campy appeal" of Star Trek and it's just going over my head?
>>746187483
Both.
too bad the rest of show is only available on CBS all access.
>>746186918
Just finished the second episode.
Really appreciated the inclusion of the 40k universe.
Didn't really appreciate how that stupid fucking actress Ching-Ching Bing couldn't hold a prop gun steady and well enough to not look like a fucking idiot.
Didn't appreciate how everyone keeps passing the idiot ball around. Even when they pass it to themselves.
I did like how I'm-Not-A-Man-But-My-Name-Is Michael outwitted the ships computer.
I've always had a boner for Space Navy combat between ships. So this idea of Star-Trek: The War Years gives me a bigger boner than that sweet black bitch, Michael.
I'll give it a B. I'll watch next week.
>>746187483
also is the black chick supposed to be a boy or is my skin color preventing me from understanding the chinese captain because im racist?
>>746188907
her name is michael?
how deliciously progressive
>>746188930
I...think it's supposed to be a woman. And has always been. They refer to her as She in the show.
Not really clear why she has the name Michael. If it was a tranny that wanted to transition either way, you'd think it would change its name to something that matches.
>>746187483
I dunno if it's terrible across the board but Michelle Yeoh's performance is unwatchable.
>>746188955
I'd still fuck her into unconsciousness. The actress at least, since I know she's a woman. If her character is a dude that got his dick chopped off, then I'll have to strong pass.
I don't give a shit about STD, I just want ensign Daft-Punk to get her own show.
I want to watch her origins as a cyborg. How she is taken in by the federation. How she awkwardly lives at Starfleet Academy and interacts with her organic peers. I want to see her slowly showing emotions, flashing on her face-screens.
They can go shove their KANGZons and Commander Bix-Nood, just give me more Cyborg-fu.
>>746189105
Do you think her vagina vibrates?
>>746188930
>>746188955
>>746188981
>>746189028
It's supposed to be indicative of how name assignments change over the centuries I guess. Like how there could be names like Spider Jerusalem or Desolation Williams. In this case I think the writers were recalling how names like Meredith started as exclusively male names and gradually became more associated with women. Or like Sam or Jamie that are basically unisex.
Looked great, was what you would expect from TV Trek.
Does what it says on the tin, CBS presents a Star Trek television show. They're on target.
/b/ wants it to fail. It's nothing worth celebrating, but it's nothing worth calling the whole thing off on.
its fucking Hollywood written scifi u expected something Good?
The original fucking star trek was fucking shit when it comes to scifi it was just the only shit available so everyone ate it up
Never explored any deep ideas just maintain the status quo of the day and dont put any Ideas againts the current system out there FUCK HOLLYWOOD AND EVERYTHING THEY CALL SCIFI
>>746189325
>>746189126
"My body is fully modular, sir, with over 1382 possible combi-"
"Yes, thank you, that'll be all, Ensign."
>>746186918
/pol/ here.
Much better than I thought it was going to be.
Couple of thoughts....
1. Around Blacks Never Relax. Seriously.
2. Two women can't decide what to do, one women attacks the other women. Uh......
3. Who is rooting against the Klingon's?
4. Life in prison for mutiny and attacking a fellow officer? In the "progressive" world? Vulcan's live for 200+ years.
5. They finally used the "why don't we use the transporter to transport a bomb" tactic. Great, I wonder if they will use this tactic again?
Honestly, who is rooting against the Klingon's?
As soon as I found out it was exclusive to CBS All Access I dropped it so hard, and I wasn't that into it in the first place. More like Star Trek: DOA.
Well that was fucking stupid. Guess I'll watch fucking Orville, Orville is a really shitty Star Trek show, but at least it's Star Trek.
Discovery is just Generic Sci Fi Action Show.
>>746189278
Nobody takes /b/ memes seriously, it's a simple formula. If it looks promising, it's shit. If it looks like it might get cancelled, it's worth fighting for. If it's remembered for being hated, it might get a revised interpretation (see SW prequels). If it's something that's stayed mostly obscure for long enough, you might finally get an honest opinion. Like how everyone basically agrees now that Elementary > Sherlock.
>>746189386
I am rooting against their god awful new design, outfits, and weapons.
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JJ got outplayed
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WHY DOES HE HAVE A PUSSY FOR A NOSE
cant get good looking scifi + DEEP THOUGHT PROVOKING SCIFI CHOOSES ONE
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>>746189200
michael is her last name right? kinda ruined the immersion for me when theyve got everyone calling her by her first name. seems half assed.
>>746189386
>Honestly, who is rooting against the Klingon's?
The writers made it clear early on that they wanted the Klingon outlook of individualism and conflict being preferable to collectivism and harmony wouldn't be judged as wrong, just a different way of living. They wanted to show what happens when ideologies collide, not one eventually proving to be better.
>>746186918
I would prefer to leave it undiscovered and just continue to watch Star Trek pre-JJ Abrams influence or direct control.
![Dwight-K[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/W6LGm7t.jpg "Dwight-K[1].jpg")
MICHAEL
>>746189666
It appears so, Satan
>>746189747
Is that the cast of the new Planet of the Apes?
>>746189777
Michael is the first name.
Episode 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Episode 1
/p-pol/ here too. I liked the show. SJW levels seemed lower than I thought.
Then again I am new to sci-fi and star trek. Maybe it's for normies?
What's a Better sci-fi show? I enjoyed this one.
>>746189600
Sherlock is trash but that doesn't make Elementary good. Miller is a good actor, though.
>>746187650
>>746189428
They'll reverse course on that shit in a heartbeat if they don't like the numbers they pulled at the end of the season but are getting middling or better reviews.
CBS is not in imminent danger of losing their place among the major networks because of this or anything. Corporate television doesn't work like that any more. It's a super safe bet that might even pay out something for them.
But, sure, it would be absolutely terrible to have a Star Trek series that isn't at the top of the ratings every week and only sticks around for a few forced seasons because of a small, devoted, deluded batch of steadfast fans. You'd have to be some kind of turbosperg to want that.
>>746189822
His movies were better than the entire TNG movie run with the sole exception of First Contact.
>>746189996
That isn't saying much, to be fair.
>>746189871
oh, well they fucked that up, i remember the other star treks vaguely but i do recall pretty clearly that everyone was called by their rank or position, as you would expect in a military setting.
>>746189386
>5. They finally used the "why don't we use the transporter to transport a bomb" tactic. Great, I wonder if they will use this tactic again?
Voyager did it to the Borg once. It only works if shields are down.
>>746189907
ds9 for sure.
>>746189925
>Sherlock is trash but that doesn't make Elementary good.
No but Elementary was able to stand on its own without needing Sherlock to fail. Finally a show that does an episodic format instead of jumping on the seasonal arc bandwagon. Also more in keeping with the original Holmes shorts by Doyle.
Why was everyones outfit blue with no rank insignia and everyone used first names. I have no fucking idea what anyone was supposed to be other than captain, first officer, and what I assume was science officer.
>>746189907
BSG reboot is kind of similar to Discovery
Trek (DS9, TNG... and TOS if 60s acting doesn't bother you. also the even-numbered movies up until First Contact, which was the last good Trek movie)
The Expanse is okay but the SJW levels are really high.
>>746190048
Pretty sure I heard her called Commander Burnham.
>>746189822
patrician pun my senpai
>>746190028
It's saying enough. A step up is a step up.
i wonder if they're going to incorporate pickle rick into the show at all. thoughts? I think they just might be. the absolute madmen. can't wait for this!!!!!!!!!!!! 111!1!1!1!1!!
But guys, Reddit liked the premiere. Surely you don't disagree?
>>746189747
My sides
I love the skewed compositons, how they didnt let any shot linger for more than 3 seconds, and how they used a white klingon to explore racism. He literally burned himself because klingon society told him he was the wrong color! BRILLIANT.
>>746190222
>guys I totally go to reddit and read reddit posts and take screenshots of reddit comments
>b...but OTHER people are redditors, not me!
>>746190160
so why the fuck do i know her first name?
look, i don't i have a problem with it, i'm just saying it seems forced.
>REMAIN Klingon, not REMAN Klingon!
>>746190222
im not reading that
Farengi approved delivery method for this series.
>>746190267
Yes I did in fact take a screenshot of Reddit comments, great detective work there bud!
>>746190065
i am sure they wil drop it like a hot potato. they had that concept in SGA and gave up on after 10 minutes. too powerful not retarded.
>>746189105
is that thing even organic in any way? This thing is so over the fucking top, I'm guessing it's a robot. It even has the fucking ship's name on its head.
tfw no fun trek games ever again
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>>746190336
this
>>746189200
>Meredith started as exclusively male names
wut?
>>746189386
>/pol/ here
>reddit spacing
Back to /r/the_donald, kiddo
Someone please just explained to me why the Vulcans randomly adopt a human instead of sending her back to Earth? Like what the fuck?
>>746190456
>doesnt play STO
Kys my faggot friend
>>746189386
>>746190065
>5. They finally used the "why don't we use the transporter to transport a bomb" tactic. Great, I wonder if they will use this tactic again?
https://youtu.be/4bkw69E_C4g
>>746190222
>make the Klingons so black your TV steals itself
>"they all look ugly and the same"
hmmm......
>>746190280
I dunno, I just remember hearing both. I also know all the TNG characters' first names.
>>746189618
>new... weapons.
Bish, ru retarded?
hand-phasers
Phaser cannons.
photon torpedoes.
>>746190599
So Serek can molest and rape her. Serek loves those human bitches.
emotion informs my logic. what a triumph.
>>746189105
omfg i never knew i had these feelings.
damn you anon.
You guys seem to like these Reddit posts so I'll keep sharing them
>>746190523
>Meredith is a Welsh given name, and a surname common in parts of Wales. As a personal name, it was until recently usually given to boys.
>>746190222
I just checked the general there. Most of the hightest-rated comments are deeply critical of it. It's only the brief "lol i've never watched star trek bcuz its for neckbeards, but i liked STD" in between.
>>746190731
It's basically Vulcan for cunt logic.
>>746188930
bryan fuller likes to give female characters male names
>>746190641
mmos have been dog shit since 2005
>>746190140
Even comparing this to BSG is unfair.
>>746190758
>omg what do they want?
>literally just more 90s trek
>UNPOSSIBLE!!!!!!11111eleven
>>746189386
Based /pol/
>>746189755
>be the 21st century.
>have some decent drones being developed.
>Most need to be controlled by people
>Be the year 2256
>Send out a living human in a fragile space suite to do a fly-by and get readings from an unidentified object,
>Person almost dies.
Durrrrr
>>746190413
No idea, it's also possible she's an alien wearing a suit + cybernetics.
>>746190751
I know, right? She had zero lines and only a few scenes, but I'm more interested in her than entire rest of the cast. Only the alien science officer comes close.
>>746187650
Newfags that can't download via IRC...remember to wipe front to back
so..... the pickle rick thing?
think they'll do it?
>plz respond
>>746186918
What no space boys in spandex? I need a Wesley Crusher fix?!
Damn I am out for this one.
>>746190065
Ffs. For once in star trek, beam the enemy crew into space.
The transporter is the most deviating weapon in the entire series, and yet they beam security forces in to deal with a threat instead of beaming the threat into the brig.
Honestly, if the borg were on their game they would just get a ships shields down and beam the entire crew into assimilation pods.
Guys they can't get everything right
>>746190048
>Benjamin, I'm pretty sure this guy has only seen a few episodes of TNG and can only hear Picard's voice in his head when he thinks of TV Trek. >I think you're right, old man. He's a complete buffoon. TOS and TNG were the only ones that did that extensively. DS9, VOY and ENT all used titles, but they also used more familiar names amongst themselves extensively to create stronger bonds to fuel greater drama. It worked wonderfully and organically in DS9. Janeway's neverending TAAAHMS, ARRRRYS, CHOCK COAT AYYYYS, BLLLLAAHNAS, TWWWOVAHKS and Snneven of Niyans helped you get to the place where you had given up enough to make it through the rest of the series pretty quickly.
>>746190758
How about we want no more remakes.
We have had enough fucking Brady Movies and shit that Hollywierd thinks is good.
Go to a fucking librabry and ask folks what they are actually reading?
How about listen to ypur fans for once and don't cancel DS9 in the middle of the Dominion Wars or cancel Firefly. When we LOVE some thing keep making more of it. How about trying contact with some Top Tier fantasy and Sci Fi authors? Mercedes Lackey has yet to have a series or film made of her wonderful body of work. Gay is big time popular so try making the Last Herald Mage in to a series or film?
For God sake just don't make another Thing Crow or True Grit or Ghost busters with an all female cast. Get it?
>>746189996
>his movies were better than those movies everyone dislikes, but worse than that movie that everyone likes
Thanks for the info.
>>746188907
>So this idea of Star-Trek: The War Years
It was called DS9.
>>746189278
It suffers from the same problem the enterprise pilot did.
>People know klingons, lets have those.
>You know what Star Trek is known for? War!
>The overwritten main character is the least sympathetic and interesting one (Archer, Micheal)
>Handwave away canon and tech levels
That said, production values for the first ep were decent. The preview for the rest of the series looks significantly cheaper.
I wanted a future full of hope, and instead I got one of depression and death.
>>746190912
yaaaaaass queen, kills a battle hardened alpha klingon in armor without even knowing how.
>>746190113
I never liked those filthy Andorians either.
>>746190912
Humanity became more hands on later. Otherwise there'd be no reason to even send ships, just probes. Archer made a point about this on Enterprise.
Its okay, but not seeing as Star Trek, prob will still watch it, just hoping it becomes more trek, as this seems eh.
>show is called Discovery
>it's just going to be about Klingons the entire time because that's all normies can handle
I'm sure there'll be a tribble episode at some point, probably alongside a zany snapchat filter, but the rest is going to be "muh klingon war"
>>746191864
No problem. ;^)
watched both episodes, i really hate the main charcter shes kinda all over the place, shes a volcan human but shes emotionial during the show? shes suposed to oh had a 7 year realationship with her captian but goes agaisnt her orders and even mutinys agaisnt her captian, also the kiliong look like nigger orcs but other than that there ok. hopefuly the meat of the show is ok but i seems like its going to be some shitty war drama, orville on the other hand has really gotten better from this first episode joke dont always land but its enjoyable
>>746191772
>On TV
>>746192190
>I'm sure there'll be a tribble episode at some point
that's just crazy talk
>>746190778
damn.
Thanks. I learned something from /tv/
someone archive this!
>>746192090
>I wanted a future full of hope, and instead I got one of depression and death.
You have to go through hardship to appreciate success. The Federation is still a utopia, but obviously the rest of the galaxy isn't.
>>746192264
You r fren.
>>746192090
>It was called DS9.
Let's have the main star be a captain of something that doesn't fucking move.
BRILLIANT!
>>746186918
I just had a wank and came loads. I like to wank every day and love perverted shit, except that which is illegal. Wanking is great because you can't get an STD, and why would you want one?
>>746192190
Good point.
What are they supposed to "Discover" that hasn't already been laid out by the past series already?
Shame the first two episodes are really just a crap prequel to the actual show.
>>746192170
>Its okay, but not seeing as Star Trek, prob will still watch it, just hoping it becomes more trek, as this seems eh.
This is basically word-for-word what people were saying about The Orville. Just replace "hoping it feels more like Trek" with "hoping it cuts down on Seth humor."
>>746192115
I found it fucking confusion when they revered the Torchbearer after his death.
Fucking moron got killed but a single human female. With his own god damned weapon.
Pretty sure any respectable Klingon that heard that would agree he would never get to Sto-vo-kor
>>746192131
>filthy Andorians either.
I'd fuk an Andorian. Just think of what they could do with those antenna.
>>746192615
>what is salvaging the memory
Also see TDK.
>>746192600
Whats sad is, at least from the first few episodes...the Orville felt more ST than Discovery has so far.
>there are people on /tv/ right now who didn't rewatch ENT when Trump won
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBcXXfzrqco
Go ahead. Listen to it and tell me you didn't realize you've made a grave miscalculation about how much faith you should have in what a major network will do when there are strange currents afloat.
Cuz, I mean, yeah, maybe gay aliens are trying to spark a conversation.
Or maybe they're saying it's cool to be gay... if you're an alien.
it was shit. wont be watching any more episodes
Who are all these people who are saying the pilot wasn't good?
>>746192635
Imagine how hard a female Andorian would spaz out if you stuck your dick in her antenna hole.
>>746186918
Considering that most Trek shows have shit premiere episodes, it was about as good as I could expect. I thought the Klingon parts were great, really surprised me. T'Kuvma in particular was great, but they killed him off. I also liked Mike, most of the starfleet characters we saw were meh, but Mike was alright. I think she will be a fine MC. I really like the idea of a Federation officer attempting mutiny in order to save their crew. Especially because Burnham was right, they should have had a pre-emptive strike against the Klingon ship before T'Kuvma had a chance to rally the houses behind him.
My biggest problem with the show is the camera angles and cuts. 90% of the camera angles were jarring. There were no sweeping shots, everything was shaky, and in some instances, tilted. I get that nowadays, things need to have action and JJ bloom, but I sincerely hope they slow the pace of the show down in future episodes and focus on more complex topics. This goes double for the Emotion/Logic parallel that's already been played to death in Trek. Also, most of the effects were dogshit. They should REALLY go back to ship models at the very least. But those fucking phasers were awful. Another pet-peeve, the Uniforms need to be changed. They are not functional, practical, and you can't tell what anyone is ranked. I imagine they will change them up, a la the skin tight TNG uniforms being changed, by season 2.
The show was underwhelming, but not a complete lost cause.
>>746192904
>thinks the camera work was good
>>746192600
The Orville is too badly written to be a decent original Star Trek copy and it's not funny enough to be a new Galaxy Quest.
It can't even make up it's own mind what kind of show it wants to be so ends up doing everything poorly.
>>746192836
The problem is it's going to be limited in terms of sci-fi/drama because of what it's trying to do. It's going to have a cap on its potential while STD will probably be able to push further. Orville on the other hand will keep the comfy. I can see people watching both for different reasons.
>Having just come from The Walking Dead, Martin-Green said she was thrilled to be joining another universe “so rich and dynamic.
>“It’s a different backdrop, for sure,” she said, “but I think the complexities of the story and dynamics of the relationships are the same.
Oh, I get why so many people here like it.
The Walking Dead redditors are the new core audience.
https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/reasons-star-trek-discovery-will-excite-fans/
>>746193117
Oh it will draw basically polarized crowds.
My intitial assumption about the Orville was that the first season would be meh and maybe struggle to be renewed (if not at all). But, the second season would allow it to come into its own.
I don't think STD will 'grow' much as a show, given whats shown so far.
>people bitching about Inhumans looking cheap
CBS is blowing Disney the fuck out right now. One minute in and already if nothing else, this looks sleek and tight as T'Pol's oiled asshole. Visual culture, people, Abrams Trek wasn't successful because it was much better written than a solid two parter, it was successful because it was bright and flashy.
>>746192515
Yes, it was actually fucking brilliant. The station made it unique and distinct from TNG which was still airing at the same time it started. It showed a different side of the universe and proved that Star Trek wasn't such a narrow setting that only stories on starships could be told. It allowed for more character development and a large ensemble cast of varying backgrounds instead of having a crew of only military personnel. Setting a show on a space station was one of the smartest things to happen to Star Trek.
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finished first episode and 20 mins into second
its real bad, like "what the fuck is going on" kind of bad
it doesn't even make sense , and the ship design, fucking wat?
literally USS titanic ramming into another ship
show went full libtard
also seems like they just watched the new star trek movies and just copied it verbatim and in 2 episodes fuck all has actually happened that matters, just senseless spectacle
>>746193187
> Setting a show on a space station was one of the smartest things to happen to Star Trek.
And you can thank JMS for that before. He pitched the ST on a station idea before he went off and made B5 instead, the superior show.
>>746188981
The female lead being named Michael is supposed to be a joke, if leaks are to be believed.
Sarek doesn't know anything about humans so he assumes Michael is a girl's name when he named her when he found her as a newborn after her parents were killed.
>>746193221
> seems like they just watched the new star trek movies and just copied it verbatim
It's almost like they are making a new TV series because of the success of the recent movies and want to keep the same audience.
>>746193241
B5 was the shit. Londo and G'Kar are some of the best characters in all of scifi in any medium.
>>746193160
I disagree but we'll have to see. I hope The Orville does get a second season and I hope CBS comes to its senses and starts making this available off All-Access. Both of these have a high chance of never happening.
>>746192515
>throwing shade on DS9
Good luck with that crusade, anon. You're definitely one of the good guys.
Now delete that entire post.
>>746193304
It wont take long for them to give up hope about their shitty streaming service. They'll open up access about 5-6 episodes in.
>>746193278
So instead of creating a smart show for smart people, they chose the normie audience who just want 'splosions and leftist pandering, instead of actual thought provoking, quality writing.
>>746193291
B5 had some of the best character arcs ever, sci-fi or otherwise.
star trek discovery
they have tech that is suppose being discovered on ds9
no continuity what so ever
forced drama that makes sgu looks like a space opera
acting below zero
number 1
number 1
number 1
yes number 1?
seriously no one has a name there? too much dark matter?
6 bucks forced down the throat for 9 sessions of ads on a paid service..
constant spamming on every single science page i can think off even nasa mentioned it
fucking LENS FLARE
no wonder its rating already
>>746193348
Star Trek has always had leftist pandering, they just did it with good writers.
>I AM VERY SMART: the character
>almost every direct action she takes contrasts this
>>746193348
It's only two episode in ffs. Not a single Trek series was that good from the start. Hell, I remember TNG being fucking awful for the first one, maybe two, seasons.
I don't hate it, it's not great, it's not Voyager and it's... ok? My only problem so far and it's a bit autistic but I'm a huge fucking casual shit-lord here when it comes to Star Trek but why do the Klingons look the way they do in this? Don't they look drastically different in previous renditions and series of this franchise?
Also, a small issue, holograms, a huge Star Trek fan I know really flipped on this too, anyone care to elaborate on this? I mean, they are "old" they do the flicker, lag, and FPS drops but apparently they weren't created until after... Enterprise series or something?
Also, this probably isn't the place to ask this last question but outside of /tv/ how are regular Star Trek fans feeling with these first two episodes? Are they freaking out just as much or are they just waiting to see if it gets any better?
>>746193431
tng got saved cause they bumped the acting they found the chemistry it was a perfect balance
std is a mess they just slapped "diversity" and get done with it
>>746193414
Good. That means she isn't a Sue, just a retard.
>>746193431
Excuse didnt end working for ENT
>>746193431
TNG was fucking brilliant from the start, only redditors wouldn't enjoy the first season, which had arguably one of the strongest episodes in TNG, Measure of Man.
>>746193401
They've literally hired writers from the walking dead.
When you're watching STD, you're in fact watching TWD.
>>746193382
The exact opposite of the Orleans, how come the critics are such haks?
needed more karate
>>746193446
>holograms
they wanted to have the actors face-to-face acting off of each other instead of looking at a viewscreen.
>>746193446
>My only problem so far and it's a bit autistic but I'm a huge fucking casual shit-lord here when it comes to Star Trek but why do the Klingons look the way they do in this? Don't they look drastically different in previous renditions and series of this franchise?
That's the norm for Trek. I don't think they look as drastic as, say, the jump from TOS to TOS movie/TNG Klingons.
Also I'm fine with them getting even more alien and jagged looking in future incarnations of this series.
>>746193414
>implying she wasn't right about the Klingons
>implying she wasn't right about the limp wristed Federation rules
Yeah, the mutiny thing was full retard, but her heart was in the right place
>>746193536
>TNG was fucking brilliant from the start
TNG was comfy from the start, Season 1 and 2 were among my favorite because of that. But I wouldn't call most of them brilliant. Measure of a Man sure but then there was also The Outrageous Okona.
Why is ST:D so fucking hard on the Liberal/Democratic messages? This is fucking gross, I knew it was going to be bad when the Main Character is a fucking nigger.
>>746193628
>that penis
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>>746187650
Bit Torrents
>>746193401
>they just did it with good writers
there's a lot you could say that with. I'd rather have leftist pandering but good writers
>>746193446
Damn, I'd seed the eventual uplift of a race with a few dozen mocha Jeffersons with that bae.
>>746193628
I like the Klingons looking alien because that reduces the chance of non Klingons boning them, which means no K'ehlyar, no Torres, no Worf/Jadzia, and no Quark/Grilka.
STOP HATING SHE IS CARING THE SHOW
>SO FAR
>>746193060
I think a lot of people complaining about Mike are just ignoring the part where Mike and the captain were talking about how far they go back. The dynamic between the two made sense, given their history. As for the mutiny, well Mike is "Vulcan", and Vulcans have been known to commandeer ships (see "The Menagerie").
>yfw the guy in the middle turns out to be Sloan
>>746193803
>Why is ST:D so fucking hard on the Liberal/Democratic messages?
It's really not, you're just looking at everything through /pol/ goggles.
>>746191772
> they can't get everything right? L O L
Yes they fucking can
Why does everything need to be grim dark dark darker than darker dark action
The main premise of star trek is optimistic future of humanity
>>746193803
That pic is super comfy.
>>746193967
Right now /tv/ is throwing a hissy-fit because the MC is a black woman so it's like a wombo combo of getting on the Hate Wagon for the show.
>>746189996
> he thinks first contact was a good movie
> he thinks first contact was a good star trek movie
GAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAGHAHAHHAHAGGAHHAGGAGAGHAHAOHOOHOOBOBOOBOOHIHOOHOOHO
>>746194002
yes it is 70% of the damn thing was on michael jackson and the rest 20% was the science officer being a prick
>>746194013
Tell that to DS9. Section 31 and In the Pale Moonlight was about subverting Roddenberry's overly rosy view of the Federation. At least in this series, we can reasonably assume the Federation is still a future utopia.
>>746194045
Name?
>>746192515
> lets rip off Babylon 5 for 4 seasons except make it shitty
>>746194115
Dunno
It would have been nice if the Klingons were just a *little* more like what we've seen. I think they changed too much with them.
>mfw they were attacked by a literal lens flare
>>746194102
>DS9
>the same show that gave us ferengis travelling to 1950s earth
>and weekend at vortas
>and a tribble episode
>and even colored over one of the most dark moments in the series, diving into a dying sloan's mind, with hetero-life-mate buddy talk between julian and obrien
>grimdark an pessimistic
Fuck, if anything the ENTIRE plot line of the profits was about Sisko arguing about humanities optimistic future.
Re: female character named Michael.
May be very rare, but fwiw the actress who played the mother on TV's "The Waltons" is Michael Learned.
>>746190912
Which is more exciting: a drone in space or a human in space?
>>746194045
uh no
we've had black and women captains before
>>746193536
TNG's first episode was fucking vile. I dare you to count how many times the word "sir" is used.
>>746193536
>TNG was fucking brilliant from the start, only redditors wouldn't enjoy the first season, which had arguably one of the strongest episodes in TNG, Measure of Man.
Season 1 of TNG was very weak, in part because it DIDN'T have The Measure of a Man.
The Measure of a Man was in season 2.
Beware of false Trexperts.
>>746193382
"charismatic" is one buzzword i've seen in almost every review I read. She wasn't charismatic at all, even an autistic baby could see that.
Reminder to not trust critics, even the ones you like.
I just want to see some normal Klingon ships. they can have ornate gold plating on them if they must, just as long as they're recognizable as Klingon ships.
like, say what you want about the Shenzhou or Discovery designs, but you can tell they're supposed to be Federation ships. the new Klingon ships could be an alien-of-the-week.
>>746194251
>Sir used 165 times in one episode
Jesus fucking Christ.
>>746194045
Star Trek has always been super diverse
anyone who is a fan of old star trek can't possibly be hating on her just because she's black, or a woman, or else they'd hate Uhura, Tasha Yar, Worf, Sisko, Nerys, Jadzia, Janeway, Torres, Tuvok, T'pol, and then some.
They dont normally make ANYONE'S "I hate these the most" list. Some may rank the bottom of their respective role classes, but that's not hate.
So far Im hating the camera work (every scene has a slow dramatic pan) and all the overdone CGI that has already aged since it was made.
Also, did they seriously break the prime directive in the first two minutes of the show?
>>746187650
>WEB-DL
Good thing people with internet for All Access have internet to download the steam.
>>746194202
>profits
If STD was a show within the Star Trek universe, how would Barclay react to it?
>muh "assumptions about race"
>muh skin color
>muh stronk womyn
>muh inadequate male science officer
>muh inadequate cis male klingon
Star Trek: DNC
the camera work, cuts and performances were far more disgusting than the cultural marxist bug person propaganda desu.
>>746194381
Michael/George-Joe nude mod, orientation: lesbian, disengage safety protocols
>>746192600
IMO Seth Macfarlane is the worst comedian, actor, writer, and person that ever has or will live
that being said
The Orville is still a better Star Trek show than Discovery, Voyager, or the partial reboot movies
>>746194277
Eh, I'd say she was already more charismatic than Chakotay.
For a moment I even felt like she was channeling Seven of Nine.
>>746186918
More like Star Rekted
>>746189105
>discount data
>>746194309
Sir is genderless in the Federation since forever. Except with Janeway by standing order.
>>746190222
agreed!
>>746193967
...How far they go back? Like...7 years?
The show is the antithesis of everything star trek stands for - the concept of pointing out diversity in trek is irrelevant because sexuality, gender, skin colour and species is exactly that - irrelevant. Everyone is equal, it is a meritocracy in the truest sense of the word.
Star trek is hope and optimism for the future, but what we have here is more grimdark shitshow. Say what you like about the seth humour in Orville, at least it has the kind of love a spiritual continutation of a franchise should resceive, instead of completely ignoring the legacy.
>>746193401
Better than rightist-corporatist war-mongering for profit
>>746193097
>The Orville is too badly written to be a decent original Star Trek copy
have you watched TOS?
even for '60s standards the writing and acting were shit
>>746193446
In the most patrician of the Treks, it was revealed as a canon that the Klingons were wise in recognizing the genetic superiority of humanity and their augments in particular, but were very foolish in believing they could handle injecting hot, freedom-loving Federation DNA homegrown in the US of A into themselves. They caused widespread mutations that shrunk and even removed cranial ridges that took generations to correct themselves with intensive gene therapy. The Empire covered it up as an honorless biogenic weapon attack.
Since the Klingons are one of the most badass races of Trek and not the one trick barbarians they seem like at first glance, the mutants and healthy alike reacted to this affront to their entire race and its unborn as seven foot space vikings would: They reacted on an individual level, with some mutilating their faces beyond recognition in solidarity with their deformed brothers and sisters; others employing brutal forms of plastic surgery and metal fusing to skulls; while still others, even some of the most revered Klingons of their eras, wore their smooth foreheads as a badge of honor in the same way Klingons since antiquity wore vicious scars and oozing eye sockets, for not even with cowardly weapons of such advanced and underhanded design could their enemies hope to dilute the hot, fierce blood of the sons and daughters of Kahless.
tl;dr They didn't fuck up the Klingons, they're using modern movie magic to deliver them in all their 2br00t4h00tz glory.
If they managed to give us the true Klingon experience, they'll be punctuating all your favorite episodes with heavy metal guitar solos and duels soon enough.
>>746192153
Can't control probes a few light years away in real time so what's the point. You will still need a mobile station of some sort aka a ship that can launch hundreds of probes.
>>746186918
I just started watching star trek enterprise. It's my first ever star trek series. Am I fucking up by watching enterprise first? I believe it is a prequel so it seemed logical to watch it first. Which series comes next in the timeline?
Where does enterprise come in the ranking of how good it is compared to the other series?
>>746189386
You say "/pol/ here" as if that's somehow important. Stay in your containment board.
>>746193097
Its better than voy and ent imo
>>746192615
I laughed when this happened. Died a cuck yet is revered by his Klingons as a warrior. The Klingons look dumb though, where is their long hair? All a bunch of bold dudes with mouths not designed to talk.
the klingon ships are armoured with coffins, wow, so cool.
>>746190222
I fucking hate normies. How can they just be happy about a tv show?
>>746194030
You clearly don't know where it's from, then.
I FUCKING HATE HOW THEY USE THE TERM "HUMANITY" IN THIS SERIES THEY FUCKING MAKE HUMANS INTO THESE IRRATIONAL ANIMALS
> THEY GIVE ONE RACE TO MUCH LOGIC
> ONE RACE TO MUCH EMPATHY
> ONE RACE TO MUCH HONOR
fucking childish writing
>>746188907
I didn't see it, could you tell me how it included 40k?
>>746194766
Welcome to Star Trek. And B5. And Andromeda. And like 99% of all TV sci-fi.
What do we think of the ship designs?
>>746194737
A double death. Die for real and get put on a coffin and die a second time when starfleet torpedoes incinerate your corpse.
>>746194264
Season one is much better on rewatching it.
Season two is weak and no Dr Crusher.
But by 3rd year, full speed ahead!
>>746194680
It depends. Star Trek TOS and the first three seasons of TNG are what I'd regard to be "core" sci fi, not really of much interest to people that can't look beyond setting phasers to stun. Enterprise is....BASICALLY a Braga time travel fuckfest right up until it starts getting good int he last season.
I would start on TNG and work your way through DS9, VOY and TOS.
WHAT WAS THERE MISSION?
> IF THEY kILLED HIM HE WILL BECOME A MARTYR
WASNT THEIR MISSION TO TAKE HIM BACK THE CHINK DIED WHY DIDNT SHE TAKE HIM wtf is going
>>746194766
This is like only a century after human supremacists cloned a half Vulcan, half human child for the entire purpose of broadcasting its short, suffering, unviable life upon delivery to demonstrate that humanity must stay human.
And Star Trek was always about swapping around different combinations of just that one single defining trait races to see what shakes out, what the fuck were you sitting down to watch.
>>746194804
Federation designs were alright. The Klingon designs however were a bit weird. I have to admit, I liked the scene of starfleet vessels warping in.
>>746194804
Fed ships look like they came from STO (which is fine but... the Constitution-class exists at the same time as these). Klingon ships are alright but they don't really look Klingon aside from some of them having the long skinny neck part leading to the bridge section. and my hopes that they were actually Hurq ships are dropping.
>>746194843
Sad, died a virgin
>>746194856
THAT IS NOT GOOD SCIFI THEN THATS FUCKING CHILDISH WRITING TO APPEASE THE STATUS QUO
>>746194589
You are an idiot.
The writing was waaaay better than most 60s series.
>>746194827
See...I actually preferred Pulaski. With Diane Muldaur it was like they actually worked on some character development for her as opposed to the red headed eye candy that was Crusher for the first few seasons.
Spiritually she felt much closer to McCoy for me.
>>746194804
why is space so ugly in new trek? I haven't seen such an awful part of space since the maquis led the federation to the badlands
Daily shipwide channel that Vulcan females are the sluttiest known mammals in the galaxy and will steal your semen for "experimental purposes" if you don't keep them on a tight leash.
>>746194182
a fucking WHITE lens flare
depending on the gimmick console, I would consider flying a Shenzhou in STO.
then again, I could just get the endgame version of this and use the TOS-style appearance of the one I already have.
fuck u haters im on board something to look forward to on Sundays
>FUCK THIS HACK STOP GIVING THIS CUNT MONEYU
>>746194994
Seems like a step up from the default Windows 3.11 screensaver of prvious Trek.
>>746193803
Gene Roddenberry was a communist so yeah.
>>746194657
What?
What the fuck does "Remain Klingon" even mean?
>>746194906
That's Star Trek, anon.
The true Trekkies of /tv/ are Kirk smirking their asses off over all these misconceptions flying around and any insistence that this was a huge misfire in any way. This is exactly the dry freeze astronaut tapioca we wanted, taking us back to a time when oh, well, I guess it makes sense he's gay, he's an alien. I'm glad I don't have to question this any more and project this level ten trigger force field on every gay person and tumblr Tellaritina copyright me right now do not steal I ever see.
Star Trek is a guide on how to navigate the scary everyday world of doing your duty in the name of Ameri- er, Federation freedom, even when you want to be the one to lose your cool and cause the break down in diplomacy because you couldn't hold it together for the greater good.
Because that's all the Federation wants, anon.
>>746194994
its not. they load too much to distract you from low quality of ship CGI hence the lens flare
>>746193382
>>746193553
>89%
In all seriousness, how stressed is CBS right now?
>>746196557
fuck that hack seth thoase 2 episode of STD was good fuck the PLEBS
>>746193628
Anytime I look at Worf I feel like a Mars Bars. I cant be the only one
>>746189747
Do her feet dangle form the chair, it looks lake they do.
>>746196605
white males designed it
>>746189325
WTF is this shit? There were no "GIANT ROBOTS" in caves of steel!! WTF??!!!
>>746196587
[spoiler]3 musketeers[/spoiler][spoiler]MARS bar sucks[/spoiler]
I liked it. Old Star Trek was for nerds and people who care about how closely it follows the older shit are faggots still living at home.
Klingon re-design wasn't needed. Orcs in Space.
Uniforms suck.
Hologram technology? Fanciest Apple-store lights and chrome control panels? This isn't Star Trek pre-TOS.
Only on a streaming service you have to sign up for? Sorry, have enough accounts. I won't miss anything.
>>746196557
I really don't understand what the deal is with TV critics. Most of the time I agree with movie critics, and at the very least they acknowledge when a lot of things are bad. But TV critics think almost everything is good. Other than Orville evidently. But a TV show getting less than 90% from TV critics is like 60% from movie critics. And anything below 80% means it's shit. Which rarely ever happens 'cause they're fucking morons that like 95% of tv shows. It's just confusing to me why they're so bad at their jobs. Like I really don't get it. What an anomaly.
>>746194326
we hate her because of how shitty and try hard push politics it is.
yes, star trek has always been pushing diversity, but it was handled way better and less obvious.
They didnt try to pander to these people.
>>746193887
> STD positive
>>746196681
yea i was wandering if i read the book when i saw the cover. But yea that cover has nothing to do with the book, even the building in the background make no sense in that world.
>>746196788
>1408026911985.gif: File too large (file: 2.2 MB, max: 2 MB).
Best quote about STD so far:
>"My god! The Klingons have weaponised lens flare!"
>>746196724
I don't really care about the redesign. They changed a bunch of other shit, so why not. The thing that bugged me about the new Klingons was their fat proto-Klingon tongues. But then the kids spoke perfectly fine in the flashbacks.
>>746196770
You people make the same old, tired as fuck argument every single time.
>i d-don't have a problem with diversity I j-just dont like it when its forced
>i d-dont have a problem with the character I just d-dont like that it's an agenda
>m-muh pandering
Pathetic.
>>746186918
Absolute Kino! Who else here /teamklingon/?
#makethegalaxyklingonagain
>>746194689
/pol/ here, cool it guy
>>746196681
>>746196681
THATS ONE BOOK IN THE SERIES THE OTHER BOOKS HAVE ROBOTS ON OTHER WORLDS WORLDS WITH ,MILLIONS OF ROBOTS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WORLD
>>746188955
it's Michelle like the youngest from Full House, you fucktwat
>>746194680
>Am I fucking up by watching enterprise first?
I think so, the timeline is irrelevant.
You should watch the shows in the order they were created, which reflects the evolution of the show.
Feel free to skip out of DS9 and Voyager when they get boring.
>>746188981
>>746188955
For fuck's sake. It has always been trendy to give girls a boy's name.
Look at the 90s kids. How many girls are there named Logan. How many girls are there named Sasha.
Sasha and Logan are boy's names.
Every generation has always picked a boy's name and decided to make it a unisex name.
>>746194680
You should go in this order
> TNG> DS9> VOY> ENT
The original series has some bad bad episodes and some good to great episodes.
Best series is either TNG or DS9, Enterprise is alright but canceled over ratings before it should have.
Time line wise, TOS would be next unless you want to count Discovery into the time line with only two episodes out
>>746189003
She's Asian. Asians can't act. Weebs like to think that subs are better than dubs but the truth is if you learn to actually speak Japanese you discover that even the original Japanese voice actors can't act worth shit.
Asians can't act.
>>746197034
> skipping DS9
Go fucking kill yourself
>>746197140
DS9 is just chick-bait in space.
Way too many personal inter-relationships, not enough going where no man has gone before hard sci-fi.
Reminder Dukat did nothing wrong except when he accidentally got himself stuck on the station while the boobytraps were going off because someone in the Obsidian Order went over his head and impanted an overriding command. He couldn't have known that. And when he tried to screw over a rival politician by separating that politician from his son, but then he accidentally left a trail of clues and Garak caught him, and maybe that one time he accidentally got that chick pregnant, and when his whole life was ruined when he forgot that the prophets were omnipotent beings inside the wormhole, and one time he tried to convince Sisko that he was perfectly sane, and went about this task by talking to imaginary tulpas, also the whole becoming Space Satan thing might have been ill advised. Also Kira's mom. He fucked her. Also Discovery wasn't that bad
MISS ME YET?
>>746194941
>I actually preferred Pulaski
This. People give her way too much meme shit because of the way she treated Data at first, even though she ended up becoming his biggest fangirl.
I also find her more attractive than Crusher. I just do.
>>746189105
If there is not already rule 34 of Ensign Daft Punk I will be sorely disappointed by the internet.
>>746192515
He was a commander you fucking non-Trek fan faggot fuck.
He became a captain when he got an actual fucking ship.
>>746197209
MILF
i've been watching trek since i was a little kid, the next generation
what a surprise, /b/ hates something that is actually decent
star trek discovery is to star trek what stargate universe should have been to stargate
shut the fuck up nerds
Meh, at least Orville is good.
Fuck you Kurtzman you fucking kike.
>>746190912
They constantly hammered on about a scattering field fucking up sensors to the point where they had to use a telescope to even get a visual. They talked about losing Commander Nignog's signal so they couldn't beam her back in asap. What makes you think that flying a remote drone over there would have worked? The whole premise of the bit was "our high tech shit don't work Cap'n, gotta go in low tech".
>>746197193
Gods yes!
>>746197193
Nope back in the basement!
I'd let the bald ass Nemesis clone out before your boring, non intellectual plot ass episode ass!
I'm currently in the middle of a gates mcfadden worship session, it's in the third of a 9 day session
i keep it low level then after three days move up to artsier/racier, and finally high tier sexual
im rewiring my brain to envision her as a mother type that slowly works her way from loving to interested to full on mom/son sexual relationship
I'll be doing this until november
>me-and-mom.gif 1506330357665.gif: File too large (file: 2.21 MB, max: 2 MB).
>>746192515
This.
>Show with "Trek" in the name
>Takes place on stationary object
>Soap opera
Even the show-runners realized they fucked up and tried to fix it with the Defiant.
>>746197414
Seven was the best mommy in Trek.
>me-and-mom.gif
>>746189386
>transport a bomb
shields no longer exist?
Just watched the 2nd trailer
what is the Asian captain saying?
they are going to fix this?
>>746190065
why transport a bomb at all
just beam shit into their warp drive and it explodes
star wars is better
>>746197520
Her UT accent is fixed to Cantonese
>>746197520
she died in the second episode
>>746188955
Never ran across a girl named Michael? It's rarer, but not that uncommon at all.
>>746190113
Look at the Starfleet Insignia on the left breast of the uniform. Rank is indicated there. Best views of this are in episode 2 when the Admiral Hologram is talking to Captain Yeoh, and Commander Sasha.
>>746190302
Are those reused Xindi reptillian props. Fuck this leftover shitshow.
>>746194045
It has nothing to do with hating someone. It just feels fucking FAKE and FORCED. If that is your agenda, you are only fooling yourself.
>>746190413
It's either a robot, or a Breen. But 10 years before TOS seems pretty soon to have a Breen on board a Starfleet ship. Didn't Kirk go up against the Breen a couple of times?
>>746197010
no, its not. its literally Michael. they even say it
black chick is not likeable
she is no ben sisko.
>>746190599
Maybe she came from a colony world destroyed by the Klingons? Vulcan still had greater pull in the Alpha Quadrant than the Federation did at this time. Perhaps the Vulcan Science Council allowed Sarek to raise the girl. If so, this means she knows Spock.
>>746197520
U rike fry rice with that?
So what's the consensus of STD? About to go home to watch it.
my main problem was sonequa, she was shit in TWD and is shit in this. just a terrible actor, just does not fit the role of anything remotely vulcan or of a commander. I did like how she will not be in that position for the rest of the series so perhaps her ghetto speak she sometimes falls into when acting might fit the role of fugitive more.
>>746194202
>No sensssse, you lossse profitssss
Watching it right now.
>USS Europa gets fucked up by dark foreigners
>they self destruct
uuuhm...
>>746197935
She has one role in all the shows - Angry Blak Woman.
>>746186918
>forced diversity claims another victim
>do a pilot
>purpose of pilot is exposition
>do no character exposition
Bold strategy
Why are all these klingons bald?
>>746197934
it's worth a watch and is mildly promising, I'll give it a couple more chances before bailing
>>746196928
ds9 was "diverse" without sjw shit
>>746197138
Asians just have unexpressive faces. They're perfectly fine in voice acting roles.
Do you think the set designers just googled "star trek red alert" and slapped whatever they saw on screen?
This design is from 100 years into the future
Watched the first episode and
What the fuck is this show even trying to be? this is some weird space military drama bullshit. This is more Battlestar Galactica than Star Trek, and even that is a stretch.
There was nothing novel in this episode, nothing inspirational. No pathos. Just a shitty action show.
>>746197010
its michael
>>746198188
>What the fuck is this show even trying to be?
I think this is by far the most relevant question to ask
i come away from the pilot having almost no firm opinion other than i didn't like it
i can tell you a million things about what i saw but i can't tell you what it is or where it's going
it's just there, whatever it is
>>746198074
in TWD they have another angry black woman who is actually pretty good. sonequa, I just wonder who's relation or who dick did she suck to get famouas
>>746198241
I stand corrected Sir.
![1504972940987[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/BM3IfzG.png "1504972940987[1].png")
>>746197138
Asians just have unexpressive faces. They're perfectly fine in voice acting roles.
>>746198337
>squeezing out a turd: 100%
why not make a show in the alpha quadrant, post DS9?
why another fucking rework?
give me a god damn show with garak and bashir, it would be better
>>746189386
>/pol/ here
I'm going to start putting this at the start of my posts so I get guaranteed (you)s.
>>746194770
It was bloated vacuous trash.
qThe acting sucked but we got another Crew soon so who cares. Everything in space was cool and the Klingons were "fun". Also to all you r_the_donald-fags: The Klingons are ISIS, not the GOP. The fact that you are confused about that is proof that you should consider gassing yourself.
Old-school ST-fag out.
>>746197815
>>746190413
looked like a person wearing a helmet when they fell over to me, could be wrong though.
>>746190758
I want something that is not shit.
>>746197497
They specifically talked about shield in that scene tho. Klingons obviously activated their shield to use the tractor beam for the bodies. Also shields have been inconsistent as fuck, always. Watch a random DS9 war episode and you will see ships blow up after just one hit 5 seconds into the battle.
>>746197138
That is totally why if I do watch anime I usually watch with subtitles. I cannot tell when they sound like shit.
Only good character was Courage the Cowardly Alien and I can see him getting old fast
According to the Stardate/Actual Earth Date given in the show, The Constitution Class ships have already launched and Spock is currently serving as First Officer on The USS Enterprise NCC-1701, under command of Captain Christopher Pike while the events in Discovery are taking place. Wonder if Burnham or The Discovery will run into the Enterprise along the course of this show?
>>746196928
Fucking Voyager had a woman captain, which is why this normie argument is dead in the water before you type it out.
Goddamn Orville is just as diverse
>>746194675
There was nothing michael did that could not have been done by a computer controller probe.
Wait a minute, this isn't sickbay...
>>746198617
i am not into the Tomato service. What makes tomatometer??
>>746198241
>watches TWD
>thinks his opinion matters
Michael must be the worst officer in the Federation's history. Jesus, she got her captain killed and start a war with the Klingons in the first episode.
Even Harry "The Permavigin" Kim was a better officer.
>>746198451
stop using the pol excuse, sisko was black and great.
this captain is black and shit.
Is the ships computer the same voice actor as the hl1 tram
>>746198617
the audience score here isnt paid off
i'd believe them first
>committing mutiny
>in the first episode
>for no reason legitimate reason whatsoever
Uh, you don't get to do that
>>746196517
in Rodenberry's head
>Klingons = nazis
>Romulans = communists/soviets
>Vulcans = acedamia
>humans = everyday working Joe American
so "Remain Klingon" is a call for racial purity
>>746198610
Doubt it. Didn't they plan to have a whole other setting in furture seasons?
>>746198787
This. Also everybody in TOS is Jewish or minority.
>>746198775
>Michael
>the female
jesus christ now I have to deal with transgender shit in trek?
Dax had a male host but the symbiant (sp?) was always the same, completely different
>>746198896
Have you seen episode 2? She is put into prison.
>>746198909
>confirmed for not having watched TOS
Can't I just get a show where Garak goes on random adventures across the galaxy?
>>746199028
>random adventures
>Garak
>confirmed for gay
>>746198909
yeh but the klingons then decided to inject super human dna
>>746199028
Right after we get a show about the misadventures of Lwaxana Troi and Mr. Homn.
>>746199028
You got Rick and Morty which is essentially what you are craving for.
>>746199060
No he'll be a tailor as usual then get into crazy situations.
Just make another DS9.
>>746197120
>TOS> TAS> TNG> DS9> VOY> ENT
FTFY
and for those wanting to watch the shows in the order of events as the characters see them
even though in canon chronology ENT occurs first
it also occurs in a universe tampered with via time travel from after all canonical shows
so as far as order of events and causality it is last
and fuck calling out spoilers
the show is ended about a decade ago
http://www.strawpoll.me/14006299
>>746197718
holy fuck you're right
they are the reptilian Xindi covered with a high gloss black paint
>>746198909
Klingons were commies.
Y'know... if you tilt your head to line it up with the cameras... it almost looks like all the people who are whining about her name are dipshits.
>not stoked as fuck for Religious Trek 2: Every Civilized Nation Analogue Bashing ISIS Analogue Boogaloo
Waiter, I'd like to move a different table in the patrician section and get another helping of this new Romulans is Russians style classic Trek flavor.
op here
i'm sorry, everyone.
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>>746198929
That is just something Bryan Fuller does in his shows for female leads. Gives them traditionally male names. Like George in Dead Like Me. That was like what almost 15 years ago and no one gave a shit.
>>746198775
None of it was her fault at all. It's not like her Mutiny succeeded. She didn't start the war, the Klingons were there to ambush the Federation no matter what hence why the shot up the communication array.
In fact, if her Mutiny actually worked and she attacked that ship with it's shields down, likely war wouldn't have happened at all since the Council would just see some nobody get BTFO by the Feds on Fed soil.
