Ask someone who "quit" the military anything, also
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Ask someone who "quit" the military anything, also received an honorable after 4 years.
And I mean I literally told the First Sergeant and Commander "I quit" was supposed to do 6 years ended up doing 4.
Cool! The volunteer force works.
What branch? I assume Army or Marines since life in both sucks.
How did they cut the paperwork?
Do you regret it?
>>713534148
I had a change of heart. It was the Air Force. It was easy for the most part. However the leadership at my last base kept fucking me. It was a pain the ass to get out, I kept trying to get out on the lowest level possible for a couple months. Which wasn't working. So one day just went in there told them. Gave them my ID card and left. Waited they came to me and wanted to talk. They we're super nice but also threatening me with jail at the same time. Ended up making a deal, that got me out in 2 weeks, took an article 15. And I was gone fast. Before they found me, I harassed an OSI agent and made him read my rights over a simple question that had nothing to do with me. He was a Major and did not like an E-4 overpowering him...
They got me out so fast they didn't even both taking my rank or serving me a bad discharge.
Slick and well done. The Air Force isn't for everyone.
>>713536455
Yeah, very political. I actually really liked it.. But thought about it one day. Was this something I wanted to do for many years to come.
And realized I had to get out. Started doing music and haven't looked back since.. This was almost 4 years ago.
>>713533370
You couldn't hack it, so you begged to get out. You were given a general discharge under honorable conditions. Meaning of you stay out of trouble, after 4 years that general discharge turns to an honorable discharge.
>>713536914
This. OP is weak as fuck.
Air Force here, glad to here that you got out when it wasn't good for you. Unfortunately, a lot of people turn to suicide as a way out because it is often perceived that getting out is impossible.
>>713536914
>>713537094
Hahaha. I enjoy my actual freedom now. Give up my freedom for bullshit... No thanks.
>>713537159
I did try that, threatened it. Still wouldn't let me out.
>>713533640
You were a shitbag that was not worth the time or effort to retain. You're a quitter...a fucking loser.
>>713537506
I am proud of it. They actually wanted me to stay in. I won many awards while I was in. I was what you call a topnotch airman.
But once I changed my mind. I was done.
>>713537429
Crazy shit. These days its all too common..
>All these welfare queens who couldn't find a good job in the private sector shitting on OP for taking control of his own life
Sad!
>>713537429
I'm not familiar with Air Force regs on this, but I know in the Army we have guys just fail two PT tests consecutively and can get out on grounds of "failure to adapt."
Had an E5 in my unit who accidentally ND'd his .45 while cleaning it in on post housing. Because he had kids at the house he technically endangered them and they tried to get him with a dishonorable. Forged two failed PT test and got to keep his benefits and all. Just lost rank.
>>713537690
Yeah, they won't let you out. It was near impossible to get out. You basically have to stop following orders without getting put in jail.
>>713533370
i'm a guard post in an other countries army, how does guard posts or the daily life of your guard posts look like
>>713537811
Yeah, if they know you are trying to fuck up to get out they will delay it a very long time.
They got me out quick because they was afraid of things I was doing.
>>713537686
You get a medal for taking a shit in the AF...civvies might be impressed by your rack, but it's only because they have no idea how insane medal inflation is in the AF.
Unless you have an award for valor, IDGAF what "awards" you have.
Justify things however you want, you're a quitter...could not even finish your initial contract. All I see in your post is "I, Me, I, I, I, I, my, and I".
>>713537094
>>713537506
Found the highschool students.
>>713538329
Sure I quit. I am glad I did. Enough said.
>>713538451
>never served
>opinion discarded
After ten years I thought I wanted to get out, so I started failing my PT tests...after a year they finally started the discharge paperwork. Got honorable, but now its been two years and I miss the fuck out of it...
It's all perception to me if I didn't get out, I would be quiting on myself. Because that was not what I wanted to do anymore. Who the fuck cares about the contract its an illusion made by this corrupt government if you serve right now, you are a fucking pawn in their game.
>>713533370
Seen it happen too many times.
Probably a dirty slick sleeved pogue too.
15b 12-16 e5
>>713538560
"Enough said." Quitting the conversation now...
Whatever dude, thanks for your "service".
>>713538603
Enjoy your cult following. This isn't wartime where OP's service was vital to the nation. Do you really want someone there who doesn't want to be just so they don't get called a pussy? I bet you need fraternities and men's groups in order to cope in society.
>>713538971
Got out as an E4... But they could have taken it all means nothing lmao
>>713538451
Hahaha. Fuck right off bud. You wouldn't know a soldier when you met one. I can't speak for the others in this thread, but I know what I'm talking about. 4 years active U.S. Army.
13F-L7. E-5. Spent a year at 1-72 AR at Camp Casey in South Korea. 3 at Fort Campbell in the 101, and just got Fort Carson to start my second contract.
But yeah. I'm still in Highschool so, I keep a busy schedule.
>>713539051
That's true. Was in from 09-13. I am to blame though, I had actually no idea what I was getting into.
I was dumb and 18 when I joined.
>>713539208
>using jargon to sound important and fancy
k
>>713534606
No. Best decision I ever made.
>>713539585
I feel it's like quitting almost any other job. You leave it behind. None of it mattered. You can always move on.
>>713537686
Fuckin dirtbag
>>713539685
Exactly, they attach the shaming and whatnot to it for the illusion of control.
It's hard to keep people in the military especially enlisted.
>>713539051
>Iraq still hot
>OEF still hot
>not at war
>things only a civilian would think
He signed a contract, took an oath, made a commitment. If you care at all about honor, then you see your commitment through to the end. This is not some part time fast food job, but a profession and a life style.
I don't expect you to care, hell, I don't even expect you to understand. But perhaps, maybe, just fucking maybe I've learned a thing or two in my 15 years in the Army during 3 deployments to both Iraq and Afghanistan. One of the worst types of people to have on your team is a quitter, they will fail you, every time when you need them most. You can probably figure out for yourself why a quitter is a detrimental thing in a war zone.
You're getting more of a reply than you deserve, but yeah, feel free to drop another sick fraternity burn.
>>713539052
CPL or SPC?
When you get tricked into the 6 year they don't tell you what it's actually like. Junior enlisted receive no respect from the nco's, that's why I rushed to e5. Went in as a PV2, made PFC in 9 months and SPC in another 12, brownnosed for another 9 and made SGT. I would always hound the platoon sergeant about self improvement bullshit. He was a selfish asswipe who only cared about himself and making himself look good. I kissed ass, sgt's were the laziest motherfuckers around, making the spc's do the dirty work, and the few cpl's do all of the nco's leadership bullshit.
>means nothing
>VA benefits
>GI bill
>looks good on resume
>you got to shoot an m4
>kept you in shape
>>713537847
What are you guarding? Depends on that.
>>713539368
It's not jargon to anyone who has served, this is literally how people speak.
Sorry you weren't able to pick up the mil-speak while playing COD.
>>713539368
OK big buddy. How's ROTC treating you??
>>713540139
Finally someone who understands.
>>713539316
A lot of us were
>>713539925
Senior Airman. (SrA)
It's really hard to explain. I just knew there was more to life than doing what I was doing.
>>713539885
When you get shit on all the time, see boot licking faggots get shot up the chain, and all the other bullshit it gets you.
>>713539915
All the more reason to let the quitter leave so they don't quit when it really matters.
He signed a contract which the military allowed him to break, i.e. there should be no recourse.
>see your commitment through to the end
If this is the mantra, then the military has no honor as they allowed it to happen. I'd agree with you if OP was a deserter, but as mentioned, the cessation of the contract was mutual.
>Iraq hot
>OEF hot
By those measures in their current state, the US has been at war its entire history.
>>713539208
hooah
160th soar a what years?
>>713540479
Seriously? The army was bullshit, but rewarding bullshit. What was so bad about the AF? I know that shit may get you down, that's why you change mos's, intentionally fuck up, request a transfer, go back to tech, rinse repeat.
>>713539915
How about those guys that do great with training, they talk the talk, then when it comes down to the wire they find a way to fuck it up Everytime. Those are the guys that get me.
>>713540139
>>713540815
Exactly. They knew what I was doing. We came to an agreement.
>>713540139
>It's not jargon to anyone who has served
>definition of jargon
It's a common way the less intelligent make themselves appear important. Though, what did I expect on /b/?
>>713533640
This isn't how it works.
>>713540831
Lol I told you I didn't want to be in. The base I was at before that one was way worse.
It wasn't the shit, it was I didn't want to be in anymore, I wanted to do something else, which I did.
>>713539915
Fuck off. Every post WWII war that America has participated in has been for no good fucking reason. We send shit loads of people across the globe to kill a bunch of fucks that not a single one of us has ever actually laid eyes on. Please tell me more about how slaughtering millions people is honorable. 500,000 INNOCENT Afghani citizens alone were killed by US forces during the Iraq war. You're so full of patriotic shit that you can't see passed your CO's orders. Be a human not a fucking machine you twit.
>>713541166
It did that day. Good because it's not believable. But go try it and see what happens.
Be willing to go to jail though. They didn't want that though because it makes them look like to the higher ups higher than them...
>>713541357
>500,000 INNOCENT Afghani citizens alone were killed by US forces during the Iraq war.
>Afghani citizens
>during the Iraq war
Citation needed
>>713540831
I'm looking to drop a flight and Warrent packet after our next deployment. I wasn't 160th sadly. That's the goal. Haha
I helped stand up Divarty there. Wasn't the best time but at least I wasn't a Rakkasan. I hate those damn Torreys. Everywhere man.
>>713541357
Haha, give it a try before you act like you know it. Thats what happened, CO said go kill those innocent children playing right there. Salute, yes sir! Boom.
>>713541658
And most of us smiled.
>>713541658
*Afghanistan war. I don't proofread on 4chan.
>>713541357
Found the hippie
>>713541766
>airstrikes
Also, yes, that too.
>>713540815
>He signed a contract which the military allowed him to break
I don't think there should be any recourse, if the powers that be let him go, so be it...it's the "quitting" attitude I can't stand. He's hardly the first to quit the military, but I'd have a lot more respect for him if he gutted out his contract and finished what he had started. Once he completed his contract, he can wipe his ass with his uniform for all I care.
>>713540849
They need to be weeded out when you get home. Sometimes all the training in the world does not help. Agreed, they are dangerous...they can and have gotten people killed.
>>713541984
No, I just find it idiotic that we killed that many of their people over a couple thousand of our people dying.
Baby killing Soldier here, checking in.
>>713541105
It's a fast and easy way to convey info in a community of like-minded people faggot...walk into any civilian company and you'll find specific jargon.
You're not a service member, you won't understand the jargon. Not a hard concept to understand you fucking dunce.
>>713542048
I threw some of them away. Probably will throw the rest out soon enough. Maybe someone wants it for stolen valor....hahaha jk....
>>713541357
Babby read his first Chomsky book I see...
Stay on topic faggot, my post had nothing to do with how wars are started or fought.
>>713542048
That's fair.
>>713542394
no one cares what you think.
>>713542394
If you've ever seen an so called Afghan refugee child roaming Sweden you wouldn't call those deaths idiotic
>>713539368
>triggered by jargon
>>713543076
Does the position of attention elude you faggot
>>713533370
So what the fuck was the point of going through all that just to quit. Did you not realize what you were getting into?
>>713542515
Exactly why you shouldn't use it if you're acknowledging I wouldn't understand the language solely for being an outsider. You either sound like a faggot trying to be esoteric or are dense enough to think my ignorance somehow makes you superior. How fucking retarded are you?
This is quickly becoming one of those arguments when one lacks reading comprehension skills from prior posts. I'll just call you a faggot in the most endearing way.
>>713543266
There would be literally no difference for me if I did 2 more years to complete the contract... No extra benefits. Nothing.
I got what I wanted at that point and it was dead end at that point. I needed to get out while I was still young. I was 22.
>>713543076
>k
>triggered
lol
All these military fags that had no aspirations or talent out of highschool that enlisted to fight another mans war
kek
>>713543502
A pawn in their game. They are brainwashed by the fake ass glory.
>>713543383
So... We're not allowed to use the language we use every day in a thread we so happen to be subject-matter experts on?
Someone give this fuck stick an ACE card and call the Chaplain. Or dont. He's one of the fucks I don't care if I find hanging from a noose of 550 cord.
>>713543444
Hey, fuck your fellow airmen right? As long as you got yours bruh.
>>713543383
>my ignorance somehow makes you superior
It does in this circumstance idiot.
>>713543839
It was clearly directed at myself whom the poster assumed was not in the military. It was intentional peacocking with jargon. I'm glad the best and brightest are defending the nation. Way to move the goal posts on the argument, champ.
>>713543502
>lost his girl to a Marine
>>713543900
Yup, and you can bet everyone else is like that too. They just do it in different ways. People will do whatever it takes.
And you get fucked way harder from your superiors the most.
>>713544150
>peacocking
confirmed cuck.
>>713543502
You say that but all these educated, progressive people who probably have "aspirations" decide playing in traffic is the right move because they disagree with the electoral college when it doesn't work on their favor.
But yeah, I'm an idiot.
>>713544183
He may have lost his girl to a Marine but shortly after she cheats on him and gets pregnant while he is deployed by another man.
>>713544268
>ad hominem
>>713533370
Now that you're not in the military, do you realize you have to stop referring to hats as "cover"?
>>713544150
I'm not familiar with your use of "peacocking"
Could you not use your jargon in this thread please? Most of us might not understand and be triggered by it.
>>713544535
Legitimate point.
>>713544535
Yeah. I stopped calling them covers after training. I always called it a hat...
>>713533640
Props bro fuck the haters
>>713544910
thank you
there's nothing more obnoxious than ex-military who pretend they're still in the military.
>>713544719
>still not understanding the definition of jargon
Your debate skills are an embarrassment.
>>713538998
He served 4 fucking years, he deserves respect
>>713545220
He deserves something but it certainly is not respect.
>>713545220
No. He deserves whatever VA benefits he has coming to him, that's it. No respect.
>>713545515
I don't need anything. I got everything i need. Even if I had completed the term. I just felt like sharing this story. Perhaps someone who no longer wants to be in can give it a try....
>>713545515
You're disgusting, you don't deserve the life you've been given and the chances you've been provided and handed to you, you're just a spoiled pathetic cunt that cries when lifes a little rough
>>713545700
The VA is shit. I don't even use it. The only good benefits you get are from retiring and still not that great tbh. And fuck the GI bill it's not as good as it seems. I haven't even touched that. Partially because I don't need a degree for what I am doing.
>>713545178
Still not understand sarcasm though it's hitting you in the face as if a big brolic black guy named Requees, as he pulls the bed sheets over your head and proceeds to face fuck you.
I'm not here to debate a moot point you fucking autist.
>>713545710
You have my respect regardless of how you left the service
>>713543502
>>713543660
>received free training that nets me an 80k a year job at any airport
>my training counted as an associates of applied sciences
>free college while I'm in
>more free college for me or my daughter when I get out.
>tfw I've finished my bachelor's
>tfw I already have job offers waiting on the outside
>tfw I was living in housing projects 5 years ago and now I have my own house, decent money, and a lot of valuable training
Hah.
>>713539915
Ok Ned stark, glad you could save your daughters
>>713545879
>>713546050
If you don't kys. or die from something dumb. Not wishing that on you. But until you land all of that you can talk.
>>713546050
Props brother. I have pleanty of guys who got out and have become complete failures. Which is fucking sad because they made good soldiers most of them.
Glad you got it figured out.
>>713545997
>>713546133
And they're good fucking movies too, everybody was asking for it
>>713546395
>>713537686
4yrs and only made E-3? Top knoch? Fuck outta here
>>713546371
Pulling the racist card, nice. That no longer carries any weight
>>713546536
Kek why don't we get rid of our military and let's all just be happy and work 9-5 jobs
>>713546545
I should have been E1 but I said I left as an E4....
>>713546050
that's cool, but after 4 years of getting shit-faced and fucking sluts in college, I'm also making 80k and my job doesn't constitute harassing people who are trying to get on a plane
>>713546549
>>713546635
That's what a lot of military is anyway minus the bullshit and having your rights and freedom stripped away.
No because the corruptness of the Government wants the military for money. It's a business.
>>713543383
Top kek. Anon is a true faggot
>>713546807
You're winning in a major way right now, sir.
>>713546050
enlisting soon, what was your job. Got a CCT contract but couldn't leave for basic on aug 29th due to IT band syrdome so now i'm trying to get back into the swing of stuff.
>>713546884
Of course it is and we'd be fucked if we didn't have it
>>713546835
Good talk
>>713536914
best decision he's ever made according to him. Can't blame him. Life is too short to keep doing what you don't like.
>>713547229
#TRUTH
>>713537094
found the fattie who's out of breath even while he's just walking.
>>713544183
Hahaha, the level of delusion is beautiful
>>713537726
the hardest decision they have ever made is whether to fap to their sisters or not.
>>713538329
Civilians don't give a fuck about awards and ribbons dude. That shit is fucking irrelevant in the real world
>>713546835
"Those who can't kill will always be subject to those who can."
>>713540831
lewis, regiment or ga?
>>713547658
Not wanting to be an illegitimate aggressor doesn't mean I can't kill, you ignorant cuck.
>>713547658
>Those who can't kill will always be subject to those who can
who the fuck thinks like that.
Guys who served in the first Gulf War said there was a big drawdown afterward- it was one of the last big conventional deployments and after it was done they simply didn't need all those people anymore. You had people who had served with no problems for 10 or even 15 years who just got separated from service with very little notice.
OP is likely a shitbag and cancer on his unit, which was overstrength and maybe even targeted for cuts. They were glad to be rid of him I'm sure. But I do not believe they just granted him an Honorable like he says. More likely a General. Also, I think it's bullshit that it would just automatically turn from General to Fully Honorable in a set number of years after discharge. Again, I don't believe that. Although I have no basis for it. It was just a commonly repeated soldier myth that I thought was probably horseshit. I mean, how would all these E3s telling me this crap know? Were they on the board for correction of military records? Those dudes couldn't wipe their own asses.
>>713533370
Why did you leave your friends to die out in the desert
>>713548006
Brainwashed fools who can't think for themselves.
>>713546807
You wouldn't rather get fucked in the ass by your drill sergeant? Typical civ. Doesn't understand
>>713548116
geez. you make it sound like they are actively fighting out there. That shit is boring as fuck. Nothing significant happens for days.
>>713547389
Try again faggot.
>>713548013
They we're glad to get rid of me, in fact they treated me like royalty the best I've ever been treated, the last 2 weeks I was in, didn't even have to take leave, they gave me 2 weeks off to out-process and do what I wanted.
They we're scared of me... After that incident with OSI, they wanted me gone ASAP.
It is funny now looking back on it.
>>713548304
My ex-girlfriend like owls too, faggot!
>>713548393
imagine being this fucking insecure to actually reply with a picture.
>>713548393
your OSI agent story is one of a few things in your tale that doesn't make sense. "Made him read me my rights" over some stupid shit? You tell me they threatened you with jail, then you say they were "scared of you." Scared of you doing what, exactly?
Perhaps if they thought you were mentally off or likely to harm yourself forcing them to fill out forms or something, yeah. Otherwise, "treated me like royalty" sounds like a lie. I think they were happy to see you go because you were not as good as you think.
>>713548393
Those last 2 weeks didn't have to wear uniform. So didn't cut my hair. My hair was already long before then, barely passing regs.
But my hair grows fast so 2 weeks after, last day in, had to wear my uniform for like an hour for final out processing. Hair was long af. Looked like a civilian in uniform. It was funny.
>>713548304
Brags about all this training, money, and education, can't buy a belt. GTFO, you fucking nigger!
>>713547158
Ground Radar maintenance. Pretty small field with small shops and easy work days if you happen to get the most recent airfield surveillance radar. Because of our size, we are getting mashed together with airfield systems next year to become Radar and Airfield Weapons Systems.
I remember the CCT guys, they went to school on the same base as me. I don't know too much about them, just that they're fit as fuck. Always running around with goddamned 40 pound rocks and logs.
There's lots of good benefits to joining, I would recommend it. Just keep your head up, your nose clean, and keep a goal in mind. If you want to do 4 and leave, do 4 and leave. If you want the full 20 and retire, be ready to put in some work.
There are shit ncos and commanders just like there are shit bosses in the civilian world. I got lucky to have pretty great bosses in most of my contract . I'd consider staying in, but I hate deploying and being away from my wife and daughter for so long. Besides, I want to be an engineer, not some radar guy. Gonna take my degree and go.
>>713546807
I was halfway through my college degree when I joined, married and with child. Honestly, what I did was the right choice for me. If you like the path you yook, good on you buddy. But student loan debt was fucking me and I had a daughter to take care of.
>>713548758
Ok, ill explain. I had already made a deal with them, to get out with article 15. They said it would take like up to a month or so. I still wasnt happy with those results so I was finding anyway to make the process speed up. I figured out that they didn't like when I disobeyed orders. Walking away from shirt when hes talking to me. etc.
But an OSI agent questioned me over something someone else had did.
There was a Captain who was selling a energy drink/health product. Anyway lowkey they thought she was using favoritism towards people who purchased from her. The Group commander issused an investagtion. No one knew this at the time. They questioned me, at the time didn't know because I purchased some drink mixes from her. He agent started asking me questions about it. Seeing this as an opportunity to escalate things more. I just was was uncooperative. I told him I wanted a lawyer and refused to talk anymore until done so. He got real upset when I did that. He ordered me to go at attention. I refused, sitting there chewing my gum. He then orders me to spit the gum out still refusing. He then tells me to wait at attention while he gets my commander. I just bailed and went to mental health.
Then once I left mental health, they are waiting outside. I worked at the clinic. so it was the same building. I went to my commanders office still not standing at attention, commander ordered my to apologize to the major (OSI agent) still didn't. Basically the commander probably explained him who I was. And that was it. Then the commander told me, don't worry we will have you gone in two weeks. Just promise you don't do anything else. If we get you out this fast. I agreed.
>>713549719
To people who may not understand this. The commander think of him like a big boss somewhere. Doesn't like explaining these situations to his boss. Makes him look like shit. And can fuck up their promotions and chances for higher positions.
>>713533370
What do you think about your experiences? Would you still encourage your younger self to join, knowing what you know now?
