Hey /b/, what's your take on abortion? I'm all for
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Hey /b/, what's your take on abortion? I'm all for it myself. It's got me out of a jam 3 times in my life, the most recent being about 2 weeks ago. I figure why should I have to be punished and have my life taken away from me because condoms fucking kill the sensation of sex? Digging up an acorn from the ground isn't killing a tree.
I know some people are against it for moral reasons. Jesus freak types and the like. But honestly they're as whiney as the women lib types. If it wasn't this it'd be another. The entire basis of their belief structure is to shove their beliefs on others and make everyone follow their way of life. So I dunno. Fuck them.
So what's your take on abortion and the general overreaction from the whiny dead jew society?
It depends.
For me there is nothing wrong in aborting fetus no older than 3 months.
From 3-6 only when necessary.
After 6 months its basically no better than a murder of newborn baby.
As long as there wars, I wont care about abortion.
>>713828084
Nice bait
So tell me this, I'm curious as to your stance, when do you consider life yo start so it wouldn't be considered murder?
>>713828084
your mother should have had one.
>>713830595
Clearly, whenever it is convenient to OP. Until then, it is easy to categorise it as a thing in order to avoid guilt. Same as his pejorative use of "jew" to refer to anybody who'd look down on what he does.
>>713828316
This
>>713829441
Yeah
I'm Pro-Abortion. Trump now wants to ban birth control (I disagree with him on that), so abortion will be the new birth control.
I don't know when you Christian animals showed up on /b/.
I am however excited for Jeff Sessions' "new war on drugs and marijuana".
a fetus, until it's born, is a husk. a parasite. not a human being. thus abortion's fine. even late-term.
Its a confusing topic.
One one hand i love the thought of killing babies,but i hate that it gives women a choice.
>>713832171
Trump does not want to ban birth control you fucking liberal bitch
>>713828084
>>713830595
>consider life yo start
>>713832171
>Christian animals
>>713832171
Trump doesn't want to ban birth control you idiot, he said he wants to stop making birth control free for people with medicade
>>713832397
Shut up you fucking pathetic fucking Christian.
FUCK you and your dumbass religion.
There are even instances of abortion in your shitty ass bible
GOD I fucking hate you!!
>>713828084
>>713832267
>a fetus
>>713832267
>husk
>>713832267
>a parasite
>>713832267
>a husk
>>713832267
>a fetus
Is delicious
>>713828084
what /b/tard could possibly be against abortion? if anything we need like 5-10 million more every year
>>713832171
> Trump now wants to ban birth control
Gonna need a sauce on that, faggot
>>713832306
So, by using your own unscientific opinions you judge the worthiness of another living being's life? I'd love to use that same outlook on you, call you a disgusting murderer and a coward and beat you to a pulp.
By the way, you are an imbecile if you think only religious people are anti-abortion.
>>713832551
[Triggered]
>>713828084
this is probably bait, but either way you're a faggot and I hope you die in a fire.
Not one of my proudest fetishes
>>713832551
>>713832697
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWToW9ZNOpo
>>713832792
lmao you're so fucking ignorant
and you believe in yahweh right? Incredibly likely story brah!!
You're pathetic!!!
>>713832551
Shut up before I slap the taste of entitlement out of your mouth
>>713832653
>this fucking cuck
>>713828084
I like them... but I couldn't eat a whole one.
>>713828084
And when you die and there are no kids. No legacy, you'll be really happy about it. Ffs. Kek.
>>713832941
idiotic christian
against abortion
for the war on drugs
You are literally not human
You took meaning out of your life, and replaced it with, more free time. Just what everyone on /b/ needs.
>>713832397
>>713832397
>>713832550
>>713832633
Tom Price and Jeff Sessions (Trump's Director of health and human services, and new Attorney): "Under Trump we will ban abortion, and birth control. Donald Trump doesn't necessarily agree with these measures, but he's willing to give our ideas a try, in a concerted effort to bring the GOP together during his Presidency."
>>713833057
Actually I smoke pot, I don't believe in God and I think abortions are up too the mother and no one else. Shows what you know you fucking bitch dick cum dumpster.
>>713832941
>mfw the largest group on welfare in America are whites in RED STATES (not blue)
>calling anyone else 'entitled'.
>>713833207
Kek. Definition of cumdumpster.
>>713833057
soooo what's wrong with the new war on drugs?
and why are you FOR abortion and birth control?
>>713830595
"They say life begins at conception, I say life began about a billion years ago and it's a process that just keeps on rolling"
-George Carlin
You stupid libcuck shills, we just won a fucking national election. CHANGE is about to arrive. YOU LOST. There are consequences to losing elections.
>>713828084
Wonder if the fetus was squealing while moving
>>713833227
Nope just that Anon I sent that too
You heard about the woman who got 20 years for having a miscarriage?
Granted she dumped the fetus in a dumpster, but 20 fucking years?
>>713828084
>Digging up an acorn from the ground isn't killing a tree
In this analogy, you would have been the one who willingly planted the acorns in the first place
>>713833207
then you shouldn't support Trump
Jeff Sessions famously said "good people don't smoke marijuana"
Trump has the highest chance of cracking down on legal weed you fuck face his AG is one of the most anti weed politicians in the country. You're so fucking pathetic
also the Republicans are the ones who want to turn us into a Christian theocracy you ASS.
You. are. not. human
>>713833253
Great come back you 13 year old cry baby just repeat what I said as your own
>>713833320
Yeah but, Donald trump already backed out of like 90% of that change you're all worked up about.
>>713828084
Abortion is fucking based.
Ohh Christians. You whine more than liberals do.
If only lions had been more plentiful.
It's an important service that needs to be provided regardless of the reasoning for need. I'm married and we've had one. Got two kids already, I had a vasectomy twice (first one didn't take) Dr said I was clear but knocked up wife anyway. Went. Ack to dr and he said "it grew back together" and my sample had viable sperm.
She was six weeks when we evicted that motherfucker. Neither of us have any regrets.
>>713833207
God I hope Jeff Sessions' "advanced, new war on drugs" puts junkies like you in prison. I'm pretty excited for him btw.
Think laws are for everyone else, lib? guess again
>>713828084
Ayy Lmao
>>713828084
As someone who was not aborted, I can tell you that the alternative is worse.
>>713833322
how would he?
>>713828084
I'm pro-birth control but pro-life as oxymoronic as that sounds. I agree with your statement that digging an acorn out the ground doesn't kill the tree but as far as actual abortion goes that is closer to uprooting a sapling imo.
>>713833529
OP here. It's my second favorite form of birth control.
Abortion should only be performed if there is good reasoning behind it imo. Not if the girl is a slut and getting fucked everyday knowing that she will be impregnated and have to have an abortion.
>>713828084
ayyy Imao
If early abortion is murder, then jacking off is genocide. After all, sperm cells are living moving things.
>>713833466
Where in any of my post said I voted or I support trump. Stop implying shit you have know idea about.
>>713833481
wtf are you talking about you literal fucking liberal cuckold jew
>>713833627
Scratching kills skin cells but neither of these things are guaranteed human lives.
>>713833590
Uprooting a sapling would be like killing a toddler.
>>713833607
When Trump makes birth control illegal, then pregnancy will be 'good reasoning' to get abortions.
>>713833562
I only smoke it every once in awhile so If I had to stop that wouldn't be a problem with me
>>713833562
We've spent over a trillion dollars on the war on drugs and it hasn't accomplished anything besides ruining people's lives for having some weed
How fucking stupid are you?
YOU ARE NOT A HUMAN BEING.
>>713833679
>Where in any of my post said I voted or I support trump. Stop implying shit you have know idea about.
I just assumed you did because you're undoubtedly a fucking idiot
>>713833788
Why is a fetus in the womb not considered a toddler then? The important point I think that needs to be made is when is a baby considered a baby and not just a clump of cells.
>>713828084
3 times in your life, the most recent. Inge 2 weeks ago... Dude time to get your life together.
>>713833689
Not been paying much attention to the transition have you?
>>713833607
Well, I didn't want to raise a cuntrat and have what little money I had at that time siphoned off, so that was a pretty good reason for me to have the girls i got pregs have abortions.
Also I grew up to have a proclivity towards young girls, and if they had been born and been girls, and I had ready access to them, I can pretty much guarantee that i'd have been fucking them from the age of 8 and on. So one or two less strippers, but a mountain of shitty 20something poetry and me going to jail were avoided. So it's good on multiple fronts.
>>713833881
>The important point I think that needs to be made is when is a baby considered a baby and not just a clump of cells.
why the fuck would you care anyway dumbfuck do you not realize that we have a massive overpopulation problem?
And you really think that kid is going to have a good life anyway you IDIOT. FUCK YOU CHRISTIANS
>>713833974
This is edgy and cringy but the basic point is true so I can't hate.
>>713833974
Not actually a christian I just think killing something because our world sucks is immoral. Besides based on that argument would you advocate killing children or elderly since we have an overpopulation problem? Why is the line arbitrarily drawn at a baby that has yet to be born?
>>713833875
You should never assume anything, and what have I said that would give you a accurate reading of my intelligence
>>713834123
I actually believe we should kill the elderly. Fuck it, at 70, ya had enough life. You can look forward to pissin and shittin yaself if you live longer.
Also, we should feed the corpses to pigs and the like, to solve the livestock feed problem
This
>>713834276
Then you're a degenerate human being and if you honestly think that please be one of the first to lower the popultion.
Tl;dr kys
>>713834276
This.
Let's get serious about this recycling thing people!
>>713834360
Kek 10/10
>>713834123
>Not actually a christian I just think killing something because our world sucks is immoral. Besides based on that argument would you advocate killing children or elderly since we have an overpopulation problem? Why is the line arbitrarily drawn at a baby that has yet to be born?
Science says it is unlikely the fetus can feel pain before the 29th week. You're not committing a wrongdoing you're killing a bunch of cells and goo
I would advocate for population control measures. I wouldn't advocate for killing anyone who is already alive
>>713828084
imo birth control and the like are fine, abortion after a few weeks sure, but that thing's fuckin alive, man. barely but it's alive. That is why later abortion freaks me the fuck out.
>>713833919
explain yourself or stfu libtard
>>713833841
yeah, heroin, crack and pot have been really successful you stupid fag.
>>713833841
keep bitching, lib. you brainless pot-smoking retards are liberals because you've decimated your brains with drugs.
>>713834521
So your line drawn is someone who can't feel pain? So anyone with congenital insensitivity to pain is good to be killed by whoever is supporting them?
>>713834276
This is absolute bullshit. Bill Cosby was at the top of his raping game at 70. And trumps hand jewel would have started blinking this year.
How about, when you become infirm, you have to be shoved into an industrial shredder?
>>713828316
This is the sane response.
If we are being serious
Abortion should be one the last methods of birth control.
>condoms
>spermicide
>plan b
Should be enough to keep you from having a baby. Also get an abortion as soon as possible don't fucking wait till the damn thing looks like a baby.
>>713834521
This is me.
>>713834652
To elaborate I'm fine with abortion as long as you can provide a viable reason not to consider a baby. So if you can give me a rational reason how/when a fetus is not a human then go ahead and I will agree with you. Enlighten me /b/.
>>713834541
So you haven't been paying attention. Before he's even been inaugurated he's backed out most the things he built his campaign on.
>no wall
>no jailing Hillary
>not completely repealing the Affordable health care act
>no "draining of the swamp
And even if he tried to deport all the people he said he would, he still couldn't deport as many illegals as Obama did (the most in US presidential history)
You were played like a fiddle anon, but by all means continue to call people cucks and libtards. I know, it sounds cool.
>>713834652
>So your line drawn is someone who can't feel pain? So anyone with congenital insensitivity to pain is good to be killed by whoever is supporting them?
I personally support abortion at any stage, even late stage and live birth abortion. I am in favor of freedom for people.
My point was alluding to the fact that if the fetus can't even feel pain, there isn't even a moral argument against abortion at that point. It's just sheer idiocy
Sure there's a moral argument against live birth abortion and the like, but as you can see, I don't give a shit. Fuck bringing more kids into the world when you aren't ready as a parent and dooming them to a life of literal "hell on earth". In addition to that, as I've said, I am in favor of freedom.
>>713831604
Yep. OP is a category 'A' bad person. A self-righteous selfish jerk who oughta get aborted himself
>>713835073
Ok then please see >>713834412
>>713834412
I aint 70, dumbass. But i wouldnt bitch and moan at 70 if they killed me
>>713828316
I came to this thread hoping to contribute something meaningful, but then this guy comes along and basically says it all for me, before I even begin.
>>713835039
Sounds like a lot of libtard lying to me. Propaganda. First-Tier Cuckoldry.
You're shilling. And god dammit, you know it.
>>713833259
It is a waste of money first and foremost, it victimizes a large part of our society and makes the community deeply distrust law enforcement. GTFO with your autistic brain-melt. Start looking beyond the basement and thinking about the big picture.
>>713835145
Little baby mad that little babies die? Only person who should kill themselves is you, pussy
>>713835171
You obviously don't get it so let me spell it out for you: you are human garbage and I have no interest in arguing with you because of how morally irreprehensible you are. Please kill yourself.
>>713835145
if you weren't a virgin maybe you would understand the implications of getting a woman pregnant and how necessary abortion is you triggered fuck head
>>713833562
Jeff "I left the kkk because they smoked pot" sessions? The guy hosts the biggest welfare state in all of the country and you think he's actually going to fix anything?
How's that drug war been working out for the last 20 years... Sure made the USA host 25% of the world's incarserations. That's not a problem to you? Guess conservatives don't actually want less government or more freedoms
>>713832653
*whoosh*
>>713834880
And it is a last resort for most people, my ex used to work at planned parenthood, she always said the majority of the people that came in used some kind of prevention method before hand and it didn't work out. The idea that women who get abortions are huge sluts who've done this 100 times is false (though that no doubt happens and is a very real thing). A lot of them are just scared, and know they can't support a child emotionally or financially.
>>713835276
I'm mad that there are people like you who advocate the murder of babies because the world can suck. Also I'm not the one who thinks the solution to overpopulation is to murder babies. If you think there are too many people in the world then off youself. After all, apparently the world needs people removed that badly based on your logic.
>>713834656
Alright, i dig you. Anyone above 70, who is fucked up, has to die and be fed to pigs
I also believe rapists (the bad kind, not the drunken teenager kind) deserve the death penalty and so does short eyes and any killing
>>713834458
Toppest of keks
At one hand im all for killing babies,
but on the other hand im against giving women a choice.
>>713832901
>>713834276
>Don't kill embros but kill the elderly
>This is my pro life stance
>>713835238
I know it might be a bit hard for you to do a minute of research. But that's all it takes anon. By all means, continue believing everytime you hear something that sounds good to you.
>>713828084
I think it's murder, personally, and I'm an atheist. But I'd much rather it be safe and legal than have women getting it done on boats in international waters, like you see in Ireland.
>>713835425
Yea, but the world needs babies less. Besides, if im gunna kill myself for the greater good, im taking you to hell with me
>>713835287
Oh I actuall6 have a wife we just aren't retards. We use this little thing called the pill and I am not a fucking troglodyte incapable of pulling out. Even if we had a baby there is this thing called adoption services. Sure it isn't an ideal option but it's better than death.
>>713835271
>>713835289
God you liberals are incredible. Trump hasn't even taken Office yet, and you pot-addicted, abortion-loving freaks have already chalked his 8 years up as a failure.
Incredible.
>>713833180
[citation needed]
>>713835573
It honestly wouldn't surprise me you would try. You've already shown you are a-ok with murder.
>>713835286
Eh, bet on the "useful people scale" i rate higher than you. How about you kill yourself, you pretentious prick?
>>713835642
I didn't say anything about trump. Lrn2read
>>713828084
1 of 2 fertilized eggs don't begin cell division and/or implant; of those that divide and implant, 1 of 3 are miscarried.
Aborting fertilized eggs and fetuses is a built-in feature of the reproductive system.
>>713835238
I'm not the other person but here's an easy example that even your dumb Trump loving ass can relate with
>#Draintheswamp
Obviously a bunch of bull shit, Trump is a proven con man. Look no further than his cabinet. It's the biggest emobidment of "the swamp" imaginable.
He nominated a former Goldman Sachs banker as Treasury secretary.
Now he is saying he wants the PRESIDENT of Goldman Sachs in his administration. Goldman Sachs responsible for tanking the world economy and fucking people like YOU over.
Trump is a charismatic guy but he isn't for the people at all. He's a legendary con man and liar, and nothing more.
>>713828316
god I hate you neo /b/ faggots
>>713835508
No, i believe in killing the little meat bags too, but ypur comment did make me kek sir
>>713828084
I'm only for abortion IF the woman was raped other than tha abortion shouldn't be allowed all because you didn't want to wear a condom and got your girl knocked up
all jokes aside though
>>713828316 is a spot on response, undoubtedly the one i'd have given myself had this anon not given it so quickly.
>>713835562
um yeah, let me just check and see if Drudge, Infowars, Breitbart or even liberal Fox ever said any of that.
ok checked, no they didn't. which means your FAKE NEWS outlets are lying to you.
WAKE UP. OPEN YOUR EYES.
>>713835662
Again I'm not the one advocating murder because there are too many people in the world. You just keep on trying to justify your killing in your mind by believing you beat someone on the internet.
>>713835733
we hate you too, nigger.
now go post to tumblr about how triggered you were by this thread.
>>713835694
stfu lib
>>713835652
Hell yea im fine with murder. Kill babies, kill the old and sick, kill prisoners, kill the loser of every presidential election. Hell, we can make it a national passtime
>Well, a recognized pass time
>>713835578
I use the pill too, of course, but shit happens (especially for non educated people), and it isn't worth ruining life of the baby AND parents, and possibly even the families of the parents.
>>713835807
Alright, I took the bait.
I salute you anon.
>>713835732
sure kid
FUCK when did /b/ become so goddam liberal?? FUCK OFF back to le reddits or tumblr.
>>713835851
It takes one he'll of a moron to be proven wrong and still try to act superior. What a pigeon
>>713835733
Cry some more bitch
>>713835870
So your solution is murder? How is that a better option than a POTENTIALLY shitty life.
>>713835780
>all because you didn't want to wear a condom
what are you talking about you idiot? Sex with a condom isn't even comparable to sex without a condom.
The answer is the pill and plan B. not condoms. Ban condoms
>>713835868
Please see>>713834412
>>713828084
I'm for abortions as long as every baby born in the next 20 years is aborted
>>713835900
I went too far with it
you took it like a champ, 10/10 would converse with again
(pic NOT related to you good sir)
>>713835842
Unlike your pretentious ass, i dont go into a conversation to win or lose. Im merely talking. To say "ive won this argument" is to exclaim "i have severe mental retardation and need to be killed to save the precious few resources we have"
It seems like you want to act like youve won, when there isnt a competitive air
>>713828084
pro life when human population numbers are in the red and pro choice when there are an excessive amount of people in the world. you should also kill yourself for contributing to the problem and dwindling resources because you can't keep your dick wrapped.
>>713835946
>it takes one he'll of a moron
>one he'll of a moron
>he'll of a moron
>he'll
jesus christ you fucking chimp. if you're going to insult people at least do it right.
>>713835911
when confronted with facts, you just shut down and get pissed
I repeat. YOU. ARE. NOT. HUMAN. You're not human you FUCKING DIP SHIT
>>713835911
Only the dumbest of /b/ resorts to non arguments statements instead of saying why they are wrong. If you can't articulate your thoughts into writing, why bother posting
>>713835429
Whaaa? Rapists are awesome. It's like the greatest compliment to women there is. You're walking along, you see this beautiful woman and you suddenly realize you absolutely HAVE to have her. Right there, right now. You risk jail time, assault, everything because she's everything you ever wanted in a woman.
I only wish I had that level of passion, or could love someone that intensely.
>>713836033
>Yawn
Youve used that one already. Got anything else, meatsack?
>>713836075
That's an auto correct. Stay stupid
>>713835946
irl I could easily beat you up. pack a gun? I could disarm you. if need be I could draw and fire first.
and if you think you're some fuckin martial artist, I could easily uppercut your nasal bone into your brain, killing you instantly.
>>713828084
It's really hard, on the one hand, it's a killing of children, on the other, it's giving woman a choice, which I do not like very much.
>>713834541
Aaand now you're just as ridiculous as the liberal establishment you're so heroically name-calling and rebelling against.
>>713836077
ever want to meet and talk this out in person, let me know. what city are you in cuck?
>>713836118
>>713836154
aw look, the little boy has excuses.
>muh phone tho
>muh autocorrect tho
>muh inability to override autocorrect tho
poor little chimp. go take a shower, your shift at mcdonald's starts soon.
>>713836190
sure kid.
>>713836215
LMFAO
Triggered conservative!!
Where's yahweh and your fucking bible now you fucking asshat????
You're idiotic book has no power against ACTUAL REALITY.
>>713836047
Is that supposed to be Michael Moore?
>>713836224
>boohoo I can't argue a point so I resort to grammar
>>713835911
>Going full retard
>>713836158
Are you scared that you aren't bright enough to debate?
>>713828316
Why NOT kill it after 6 months? whats the difference?
>>713836049
Yes, we clearly aren't arguing about who's right or wrong and keep calling me a pretentious prick. That'll show everyone how cool you really are. If the phrase "all I'm doing is talking" is true, then the random jumble of supposedly meaningless words you have been shitting onto your keyboard make it seem like you have been arguing for pro-choice. But I'm sure your "just talking" with no motive of trying to justify your opinion is correct.
>>713836370
wew
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lad
a
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you're swinging hard this morning. see you on my lunch break, boy.
>>713836127
It's really all I need, your point is invalid because you are human garbage and I see no reason to argue anything else with you.
Buddy was forced by law to give birth to a rape baby. She threw that child into adoption cause she couldnt raise it.
>>713836469
Why NOT kill it after 12 months? whats the difference?
>>713836508
Let me know when you have an actual argument
>>713828084
>Digging up an acorn from the ground isn't killing a tree.
holy shit im triggered
>>71383658
Exactly, its pretty much the same thing, just out of the womb. so just end it there, same result.
>>713836577
oh please.
>believing cosby raped anyone
>believing trump raped anyone
yes, I'm sure your friend was telling the truth. because she definitely didn't just FUCK UP, get pregnant, and NOT want the child.
>>713828316
Honestly this is pretty much the common opinion even among people who oppose abortion. People just think late term abortions are fucked up.
>>713828316
/thread
Pack your bags, people. We're done here.
>>713828084
Well technically it's still murder. If you don't abort the fetus it will grow into a human being. Imo and logically killing a human in any state he's ever been is murder.
But then again sometimes abortions are a must due to human mistakes.
Because a 20 year old will most likely not be able to handle a child... It is a complicated matter because of the subjectivity of it.
>>713836473
To be fair, i called you a pretentious prick only once, and a pretentious ass the next time.
And unlike you, i do see this as an argument. I see this as a meeting of the minds. A way for me to take in an opinion without having to see your ugly ass at a pro life movement. I am taking in the information as in hope i think you take mine.
But what ever man, im just the guy advocating we kill the weak and old and young and basically anyone really. You and me included
>>713836822
>People just think late term abortions are fucked up
what is actually fucked up is birthing that kid
>>713836735
meant for
>>713836584
Pull out.
How much do you value potential life
>>713836558
I bet you get impotent rage at the thought of me driving my girlfriend to get her 2nd abortion cause shits cheaper than the pill. Bet that really chaps your ass, meatsack.
I may be human garbage, but there aint shit you can do about it, bitty boy. I get the same rights (if not more) than you
>>713836883
And as I've said before, that belief makes you human garbage and if you are so concerned about overpopulation please do the world a favor and kys.
>>713836875
>Imo and logically killing a human in any state he's ever been is murder
what about .00001 seconds after the sperm hits the egg? What then you pathetic sub human filth
>>713836969
How much do you value current life? If ones greater than the other, no one should call themselves pro-life
>>713828084
I don't consider anything as intelligent life until it has developed consciousness, anything before that is little more than an animal, and before that is just a clump of tissues. yeah, it's alive, but so what? so is slime mold.
>>713836969
Not the slightest bit.
>>713837181
This is the only point of view that really makes any sense.
>>713837006
You didnt read a damn word of it, did ya tumblr?
>>713836969
As the trained monkey who gives abortions
I love it, more people, more mistakes. More money for me
>>713837002
Not rage, it's more disappointment that there are people out in the world like you who have such a casual disregard for human life. Please for the well being of the world, kill yourself. It takes out someone who can't keep his dick in his, furthering the overpopulation, plus it means we lose someone who shouldn't be breeding in the first place.
>>713837018
my opinion stays tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFdzrloGp5o
you stupid fools.
I have anal sex with my gf just so she never has to worry about getting pregnant.
like what's so wrong about that?
>>713836969
I mean, personally I hoping Ebola was gonna wipe out a good portion of the earths population. So if the life is potential, it's not a life at all.
>>713837265
I did and it's remarkably irelevant. You advocate wholesale murder so any point you have about this is invalid.
>>713837371
>I'm pro life
>kill yourself
Top kek
>>713837423
getting shit in your urethra
>>713837388
>my opinion stays tho
it's because you're stupid
>>713837423
This I am pro-anal for birth control.
>>713836278
Wow you sure put me in my place there, why don't you ask the doc and Marty to drop you off in the 1950s where you belong?
>>713835642
>8 years
Wishfull thinking
>>713834360
Beat me to it
>>713833016
I will be happy because there will be no more humans suffering because of my actions
>>713837499
I am pro life, I am also encouraging someone to follow their own beliefs. It has nothing to do with whether or not abortion is ok.
>>713837192
Watch yourself on that edge friend.
>>713837060
Dunno. I tend to stay away from the "everyone dies so who cares" point of view, mostly because it makes me feel like a little baby girl but also because it doesnt get me anyware in thought.
That said. I value current life as something to be cared for and if life has the potential to be given, no one has the right to take it away.
If the mothers life is at risk then mememe hell i dunno up to the mummy?
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For
My sentence
Structure im rrying to make it easy ti reed
>>713832653
It's a meme you dip.
>>713837371
Once more meatsack
>Same rights as you
>Not a damn thing you can do
Think im gunna make her have a trifecta later this month. Pussy always feels better when ovulation occurred
>>713835733
>neo /b/
Nah mate that's conservative alt-right faggots. Old /b/ was never against abortion.
>>713837602
Can't be pro life and tell someone to kill themselves at the same time. It's the exact opposite of what pro life means.
>>713837472
Just because you disagree with me, doesnt make my point irrelevant. You have yet to explain why the sick and old should live, you just got on your hogh horse and started calling everyone garbage, you pretentious prick
>Now you can say i called you it more than once
> everyone who gets pregnant should be forced to conceive the baby
> we will absolutely do nothing to help single mothers with babies
Conservative logic
>>713828084
abortion for any reason at any stage with mutual consensus of the parents
>>713837840
>Hes a walking murder victim, he doesnt understand
>Hes what in talking about when i say kill the retarded and feed them to pigs
lets look at your question from a more empathic stance
you accept abortion to save your life from the burden to take care of another person
if you would kill yourself once you become a burden to someone else, you can apply your given argument to abortion, if not you can't
>>713837917
Send thousands off to war and fuck the homeless and veterans. They are to lazy
>>713836158
Topkok, fucking neet neckbeard keyboard warior over here. You wouldn't even be able to waddle up the basement stairs without resting every two steps you faggot.
>>713838091
Topkek* fucking autocorrect.
>>713837840
Pro-lifers want live babies, and then don't want shit to do with them until they reach voting/military age. Their not pro-life. If they really cared about the sanctity of life, why don't they stop jacking off? Or actually, life can't exist without carbon, yet you don't see them standing up for the carbon atoms.
>>713837604
How is that edgy?
>>713838091
wanna try it?
>>713837727
>meatsack
kek, sick insult bro
>Imma kill babies to make you mad
again, doesn't really make me mad, just disappointed that people like you are alive
>muh rights
I don't get what you're arguing here at all. I'm not forcing you to kys I'm saying based on your retarded logic people need to be killed and considering you are someone who have zero willpower for birth control you should kys.
>>713828084
Do you fucking have any idea how much kids in foster care suffer? It should be mandatory. We have FAR too many people.
>>713836158
>>713838091
You guys are such fags.
>>713838314
>Do you fucking have any idea how much kids in foster care suffer? It should be mandatory. We have FAR too many people.
finally someone intelligent
>>713837371
Should the US stop going to war and accept dying refugees?
>>713838241
So sad, hes mad. Meatsack thinks hes high and mighty but the mean old monster keeps calling him out
Are you vegan too? You dont eat gluten either, right?
>>713837917
My gut feeling on that particular issue is that it has something to do with the idea that women should suffer for having casual sex.
I don't particularity like abortion, but it should be legal. Birth control is a much better option.
>>713828084
test
>>713838314
This.
7.2 billion people on this planet, we start running out of food at 10 billion.
>>713828084
The only thing I have against abortion are later term abortions. Once the baby is formed middle of 2nd trimester should be considered too late unless it has health defects. I personally don't like it how everyone just uses abortion to escape responsibility, but I'd also rather have an unwanted child terminated than abused like I was
>>713838487
calling out implies you are doing something to totally wreck my argument. All you've managed to do is show me is that you are a horrible human being who is a waste of space and air.
>>713838636
>The only thing I have against abortion are later term abortions. Once the baby is formed middle of 2nd trimester should be considered too late unless it has health defects. I personally don't like it how everyone just uses abortion to escape responsibility, but I'd also rather have an unwanted child terminated than abused like I was
The viewpoint of an idiot
>>713838527
stop wasting food and stop producing meat and we can easily feed 30 billion
>>713836788
>everything happens the way i see it
>there can be no other reason behind it
>it would crumble my sense of reality
>beter keep on spouting bullshit cause it's better to be ignorant of the fact i might be wrong and be seen as a stupid mongoloid than to actually be a bit compassionate towards fellow human beings and maybe get a new perspective on things.
Do I think it's 'right'? No. Do I think making a kid live a life where its life will undoubtedly be suffering is better? No.
My take is that people shouldn't be promiscuous but abortion shouldn't be illegal. It should not be state funded, though, and that's the most important part for me.
>>713838916
congratulation you´ve met your first conservative
>>713838850
Why would we want to have that many people or stop producing meat? I mean I think we can all agree that wasting food is bad but this sounds like a shitty world otherwise.
Not the fag you're replying to, just saying.
>>713838781
Great argument. Truly outstanding. By chance, did you go to a university in the USA?
>>713838946
How do you know someone's life is undoubtedly going to be 100% suffering?
>>713838636
it doesnt matter how old the foetus is - it doesnt get rights to use somebody elses body without consent with age.
Late term abortions r just complicated and risky for the mother
>>713836158
I bet you're also trained in gorilla warfare, right?
>>713838600
>immortality
Oh boy, here we go. Immortality means the death of all humans. If people stop dying within 10 years we will never have enough food to feed anyone, let alone a suckling baby or a fucking cripple.
Im not ever that guy but now i gotta say you are fucking retarded
>>713838850
No we can't, the facts are that even if everyone cut back to the same amount of meat and produce spread evenly to every person on the planet, There's just not enough land on the planet for the livestock and the crops. Hell, if the rest of the world consumed beef and chicken the way most first world countries do, we'd need three planets the size of mars to support all the livestock..
>>713838237
Come on than bitch buy a plane ticket and come over i'll wait at schiphol to meet your weezing fat ass.
>>713839184
oh, boy, here we go - the intellectual midget gets his arguments on.
If ppl stop dying, it means we will run out of food, cuz the matter and energy r known to just be destroyed by those magical void and abyss reactors known as human organism
>>713839184
Well if running out of food becomes a severe problem then we can definitely bring this problem up then. But the point still stand of how do you justify when it is ok to kill someone based on their age, especially if they are a healthy, productive individual of society.
>>713839013
for sure. Just saying the food is not the problem
>>713839068
Because all people experience some amount of suffering, the magnitude changes person to person.
Looking at historical trends, children who are born to non-stable families have generally 'worse' lives. Not saying they'll be the worst lives but they probably won't be great.
It's better, in my opinion, to prevent any suffering that might happen before any happens at all. Yes, I know late stage fetuses can feel pain but they don't have the self awareness a 5 year old does.
>>713839446
Fair enough I guess.
Technically, the only way having a child could be considered moral, would be if you could somehow get consent from the unborn being that it wants to be brought into the world.
Since you can't, it's simply immoral to bring a life into this world.
>>713839561
So you feel that someone should have been killed because you are going to at some point in your life experience sufferring? What you are proposing is to kill all babies which is a bit of a problem for the human race.
>>713839446
I dunno, you sound pretty ignorant. young or uneducated I guess. but whatever.
>>713839720
Different fag here but I unironically support this.
>>713839720
Yes. I know I'm at ends with the majority of humanity but of all the endings for our species, I think a voluntary one is the most appealing.
>>713839935
>>713839823
>>713839935
I disagree that humanity should off itself. We have done some crazy shit and as a human being I would like to see what else we can do. I'm sorry that you don't care about the wellfare of humanity but that is hardly a good reason to exterminate an entire species.
>>713839805
how rude
Numbers:5 11-31
If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”
God is pro abortion
>>713840190
Damn, I was literally just looking for this passage.
>>713840190
>God is pro abortion
yup. which is why these Christian fags just look so stupid
>>713840190
Only if you committed adultery. So if you want to have an abortion cheat on your significant other and then demand the head of your church abort your fetus. Please tell /b/ how this goes, for science.
>>713840338
Still pro abortion
>>713836844
Actually.
>>713840338
Oh wait misread that, disregard the first sentence and parts about cheating I suck cocks. The rest is valid though.
>>713840338
nope, theres a passage about stabbing a pregnant woman and not being punished for it - let me find that for u, u christfag
>>713840167
I mean, we lose eventually. I just think instead of having human suffering approach infinity (by continuing to exist, which at this point is an undefined amount of time, i.e infinity) we minimize it by reducing it to a generational issue. I agree we've done interesting stuff but to what end?
>>713840409
Hilarious pro-abortion that says rabbis should do it.
>>713828084
I don't like it because it's putting focus on the individual instead of the family and makes sex some casual activity normies do.
I do like it because there's less crime babbies.
>>713840513
Or, you know we could think of alternative solutions beyond mass genocide. I don't think that's too crazy of something to think about.
>>713828084
you're a murderer, your "acorn" metaphor is wrong
i'm not a jesus freak, you don't have to be religious to hate abortion
you are told by abortionists that you aren't murdering anything precisely because you are murdering something...for such a selfish reason (got me out of a jam) lol all you had to do was murder your child so you wouldn't be burdened with any kind of responsibility
it saddens me that you are the norm in society
>>713828084
As a christian I dont like it, but I also realize that its not up to me so im pro choice to an extent. I dont like the thought of abortions being used as birth control when as a society its so fucking easy to get a condom or the pill. I mean come on. Im ok with an abortion happening at any time if it hurts the mother (obviously late term abortions only happen on dead babies and is pretty much a c-section). I dont consider a fetus life if it cant live on its own yet, because its kinda more just a parasite at that point.
>>713828316
it's all murder, quit rationalizing it
it's ok guys if you murder it really quick, don't dawdle
>>713840513
You also have no way of knowing humanity is going to face constant and infinite suffering. Even if humans are guaranteed to suffer at some point in their lives, how does a finite amount of sufferring outweigh the potiential happiness in their lives?
>>713840749
>As a christian
Thanks for saving me the trouble of reading your gay post with the first three words faggot.
Abortion is difficult...
On one end it means killing children...
And on the other, it means giving women a choice... which really doesn't sit well with me.
>>713840875
Unoriginal/10
Come up with your own jokes faggot.
>>713840641
First of all, I'd only support it if it was voluntary.
Secondly, are you saying there is some way to 1) have humanity exist forever and 2) in that entire existence, have little to no suffering for everyone involved?
I've tried thinking of alternatives but I can come up with miracles.
>>713840873
I dont have the normal opinion of other christians so go suck a cock you retard.
>>713840714
why do u take antibiotics? Bacteria want to live too, why r u so selfish?
>>713840749
>As a christian I dont like it
Tfw IDIOT Christian hasn't even read his own idiotic fucking book.
"If a man begets a hundred children, and lives many years, so that the days of his years are many, but he does not enjoy life's good things, and also has no burial, I say that an untimely birth is better off than he. For it comes into vanity and goes into darkness, and in darkness its name is covered; moreover it has not seen the sun or known anything; yet it finds rest rather than he." (Ecclesiastes 6:3-5)
"Or why was I not as a hidden untimely birth, as infants that never see the light? There the wicked cease from troubling, and there the weary are at rest. There the prisoners are at ease together; they hear not the voice of the taskmaster. The small and the great are there, and the slave is free from his master." (Job 3:16-19)
"The wicked go astray from the womb, they err from their birth, speaking lies. They have venom like the venom of a serpent. ... Let them vanish like water that runs away, like grass let them be trodden down and wither. Let them be like the snail which dissolves into slime, like the untimely birth that never sees the sun." (Psalms 58:3-8)
and there are many more which I can't into this post
>>713840875
abortion isnt about killing children, its about terminating a pregnancy. and removing the foetus from a uterus
>>713840958
1- Not to necessarily exist forever because I don't know what the future holds.
2- considering there are people now who live happy and content lives, yes. It is only a matter of finding a way to get that same standard to everyone on earth.
>>713836349
Yes.
Also like 90% of the people who behave like this are lefties.
>>713840504
here
If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life. -- Exodus 21:22-23
>>713840851
I have no way of knowing about the future, but history shows every group of people has suffered. History repeats itself, so they say. If you want to disregard history, go ahead, but I don't want to live in a society that does so.
Also, 'happiness' is largely subjective. People can experience chemical bliss, but we might as well hook everyone up to a constant stream of heroine or something if that 'happiness' is all life is about.
>>713841214
Because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die. -- 2 Samuel 12:14
Too long didn't read. Everyone is eligible for late term abortion! Most of the people on this board should consider having one themselves.
>>713841159
Did you ever considered that some people are incapable of experiencing 'happiness'? Maybe a mental problem that can't be cured? They should be forced to exist because there is a possibility that someone else might be 'happy'?
My main point is that the suffering in one's life outweighs the positive aspects of their life, and, if we collectively agreed to end suffering, we could in fact do it by stopping any future suffering from occurring, which is done by not bring anymore sentient beings into the world. The alternative is holding onto the hope that the future will be different or some definition of 'better'.
>>713841260
We go back again to the argument that even if there is a finite amount of suffering guaranteed in the world, how does that outweigh someone's happiness to the point humanity shouldn't exist. As far as the heroin machine idea goes, if you could make a device that made everyone permanently happy without any risks I wouldn't see the problem.
>>713841115
Tfw IDIOT atheist doesnt even know what an opinion is.
Tfw IDIOT atheist thinks all christians are ignorant to other ideas.
Tfw IDIOT atheist didnt even fucking read my post.
Tfw I can hear the IDIOT atheist pushing his glasses back and tightening the fedora on his fucking head.
Eat shit and die faggot.
I think that abortion should be legal and a right, mainly because who the fuck wants more people anyway? But if someone is having abortions as a form of birth control, he is a fucking heartless idiot. It doesn't matter if its technically a fetus, but I think if you do it several times without ANY guilt at all, you're a psycho piece of shit.
A pregnancy scare or two should be enough to make you buy condoms (or use other forms of BC) in bulk and never fuck without one ever again.
>>713841865
you're a Christian. no argument of yours is significant
>>713841734
If there is some disease where a person is incapable of feeling happiness I honestly don't know what would be a good moral solution to that other than try to cure it. As for waiting for the future to try to make things better, yes and no. 10 to 1 the future is going to be better because we have motivated and intelligent people in society who want to make it better. These people will do what they can and if anything in our past has shown us, life will get better.
>>713841750
I think the fundamental difference between us, then, is that you think potential happiness>guaranteed suffering whereas I believe the inverse. I know I can't convince and of that because it's fundamentally inhuman but something you must come to yourself. You can't convince me of the other, either, though.
>>713842017
the viewpoint of a true idiot
You can't even form coherent thoughts you're so stupid
>>713841865
so how dare u put your opinion before gods?
>>713841865
Oh man you sure told him and didn't look like a complete idiot by not giving any arguments
>>713842054
But what is "better" and who has the authority to impose that on others? I would argue Natives were all 'happier' befor colonization happened but most would argue they are "better off" now thanks to modernization.
>>713833291
Invalid response, that is concerning collective life not an individual person's life. Let me rephrase: When do you consider the product of human reproduction to be a human instead of "a bundle of cells" or whatever?
>>713842057
I can agree with this completely. I hope
whatever your life is like, it doesn't suck and life manages to prove you wrong.
>>713841865
This may be the single stupidest post I've seen in months.
God I hate you Christian fags
>>713842182
He didnt even give an argument, he just quoted a few things from the bible in response to me being christian without even reading my post.
>>713832402
Calm down with the autism there
>>713842289
>without even reading my post
tfw you assume something with absolutely no evidence.
How's that faith thing working out for you, dip shit?
I in fact did read your post.
>>713842446
Fug
>>713842127
English is not my first language. And may I ask you what your viewpoint on the matter is?
>>713842030
So you go for the ad hominem excuse? Wow please continue to prove to me your higher intellect.
>>713828084
Honestly, I have mixed feelings about it. I personally feel like abortions should only be done when ABSOLUTELY needed. Like for example, your girlfriend gets knocked up and you guys literally have no money to afford a baby. However, if the baby is already past 6 months, then I'm completely against it. You're basically killing a fully-grown baby at that point.
I had to get an abortion when I was 21. It was devastating and it haunts me to this day. I don't really wanna get into details, but yeah... just do it when it's necessary. Maybe give it up for adoption if you have the capability too.
>>713842238
Loss of land sucks but are you saying longer life spans, more comfortable living, better access to food, less chance of being scalped is somehow not an incredibly good thing? Sure they did lose land and many of their traditions but I fail to see how just because it was a way we used to do something and now we can't is a good argument. Do you think bloodletting to balance the humours was a bad thing to take away from a doctor's treatment options because they used to do it?
>>713842584
But why 6 months? A group of cells can't live without its mother, but neither can an infant or even a toddler. The arbitrary line is fine and I don't care about abortion but just go one extreme or the other.
You look like an idiot trying to make some sort of grey area. Stand behind what you believe in.
>>713842557
I support all abortion even late term and live birth abortion
reasons: there are way too many people as it is, not aborting the kid will ruin both the kids and parent's lives.
I won't even talk to atheist or agnostic filth anymore.
They're way beyond trying to save. If God wants to save them, he will. And God bless them, Jesus please enter their hearts.
But they're wicked. Wicked, evil, liberal scum. I know I'm judging. Rightfully so. Liberalism has decimated all that was good, moral, and holy about the world.
>>713842559
>Wow please continue to prove to me your higher intellect.
Ok. I don't believe in a mystical space god and Zombie Carpenter or Noah's fucking arc because those ideas make no sense and there is no evidence for it.
>>713842906
Yup those basic human rights to the gays and black people is a horrible thing. You are retarded.
>>713842906
I've found the worst person in the entire world
>>713842446
Because you didnt even say anything on point. You saw I said christian, so you googled "bible verses supporting abortion" yet you call the book idiotic, and im sure bash anyone who is anti gay and uses bible verses.
>>713842753
I think spiritual happiness is as, or more important than any material experiences we can have. Why would you want to live long? So you can have you grandkids wipe your ass? The food isn't of the same quality as it was even 100 years ago. Violence among people has always existed and continues to exist.
To end violence would be to end human nature, which is something we are both tying to do, I guess
>>713842823
When a baby is on it's third trimester, it's basically like a newborn child, except a little underdeveloped. At that point, it's pretty pointless and messed up to get an abortion. Before 6 months tho it's not really considered some form of a child. i'm not trying to make some kind of 'grey' area, just trying to keep an open mind about it I guess?
>>713842906
>i say so, therefore it is so
>>713842851
wow bro so edgy killing fetuses and babies is so cool and hip
>>713843036
If you preface your argument with "As a Christian", you immediately discredit your entire argument.
You did that, so I am free to respond to you appropriately (like you're an idiot).
>>713843077
u mistake living long with living as a wreck.
Wtf is "spiritual happiness"?
>>713843036
Sorry m8 but the book is idiotic in multiple places.
Genesis 32:30
And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: “For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.”
But He said, “You cannot see My face; for no man shall see Me, and live.”
>>713843154
>wow bro so edgy killing fetuses and babies is so cool and hip
instead let's make the overpopulation problem even worse, and doom the fetus to a life of hell on earth. So logical, brah!
>>713843205
Last paragraph was exodus 33:20
>>713842948
That doesnt prove you have a higher intellect, it proves you have a different set of beliefs. Thats why people hate atheists like you.
>>713843077
The point I was trying to make is that general physical well-being has significantly improved which would improve mental well-being as well. I agree that we are both trying to achieve the same ends but as some other anon posted, we are arguing from the different sides of the glass is half full.
