Islam isn't that bad guys. The main victims of Islamic terrorism are other Muslims.
Maybe it's not religion of peace or religion of fun, but Islam is pretty okay tbh.
>>713827055
go back to sucking your jew master's dicklet you nigger
>>713827100
>Muslims suck jew masters
T. American
Threadly reminder that islam forbids the depiction of humans in art. This entire thread is haram.
A religion that is all about the man, and never about the wife. When we were in Iraq and Afghanistan the saying was "women are for making babies and boys were for fun", and they also fucked goats. I'm not okay with a religion that is okay with fucking young boys and marrying young girls, and goat fucking is culturally acceptable. Fuck your religion you tribe living backwards ass sand nigger.
>>713827238
>>713827055
you're actually right about this.
a thousand peaceful men can be overlooked, but a few assholes get all the attention. This goes not only for Islam, but for any group in our society. A wise man once said: the growing forrest is more quiet than the fall of just one tree.
we must exterminate all the sandniggers
DEUS VULT
>>713827055
What's your favorite part of the Quran, /b/?
Mine's the part where Muhammad says that we should cut off the hands of prisoners to make them easier to convert.
Its better than cuck life of america but isnt the answer
>>713827334
young girls are ok
>>713827361
Except muslim seems to ruin the mind of those who follow it, the parents basically push it inside of them by force, pretty much brainwashed.
Like most muslims I met are total douchebags and have a certain air of self importance.
>>713827304
>humans in art.
No it forbids depictions of Mohammed
>>713827387
Iam with you anon.
>>713827304
>humans in art.
No it forbids depictions of Mohammed>>713827334
>. I'm not okay with a religion that is okay with fucking young boys
>>713827387
red leader standing by
>>713827511
It's humans: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aniconism_in_Islam
Muslims just get offended if anyone ELSE depicts Mohammed as well.
>>713827055
blob:https://vine.co/be091a5c-424f-4089-97ed-11db337c40df
>>713827511
I heard that music is haram. Only singing is allowed.
Fuck that. No alcohol, no music, no gay sex, why even live?
>>713827387
Wizward spider on your side!
>>713827493
>Like most muslims I met are total douchebags and have a certain air of self importance
In Canada where I'm from arab Muslims usually integrate well, but east African Muslims are the hard liners. There are many Jordanians and Egyptians in Toronto and they're pretty good people
>>713827055
>The main victims of Islamic terrorism are other Muslims.
That's actually telling more about how absolute trash it is than all islamic terror attacks on the west.
Fighting an enemy is one thing, but fighting your own people is a whole different game.
>>713827511
That's wrong. All depictions of real things are discouraged (including by torture, depending on the regime in question) because representing real objects usurps God's unique role as Creator.
This is why Islamic art is all about caligraphy and geometric patterns.
>anon with degrees in Middle Eastern Studies and Arabic
>>713827493
yep, that's correct and I hate those idiots. But it's a common problem of religion. We christians have/had the same problem and killed lots of people because they didn't convert.
I think we're just ahead of them, these radical brainwashed people are still stuck in the middle age. I hope mankind will overcome that challange.
>>713827677
Music is haram... Not for all of Islam. It's a shiite vs sunni thing.
>>713827677
>I heard that music is haram. Only singing
Only singing the prayers without instruments is permitted but just music to chill with is halal. There are some Islamic string instruments and drums which are permitted
>>713827774
I hate them because they're so dumb and close minded. It disturbs me that they actually never stood still for a moment and think for themselves.
They're basically aggressive close minded monkeys.
>>713827606
Yeah dude, not catholic either.
>>713827750
Cool to know
>>713827750
So you are saying that depictions of Mohammed are discouraged...
like the op said.
>>713827055
>>713827055
>The main victims of Islamic terrorism are other Muslims.
Look mommy more people using muslim and islamic interchangeably
tfw islam wont die because we fail to recognize it as an ideology and instead as being a race
>>713827774
>I think we're just ahead of them, these radical brainwashed people are still stuck in the middle age. I hope mankind will overcome that challange.
This
ISIS is jus larping around the middle east like they're the 8th century caliphate. The only reason some sunnis welcomed them in iraq is because after the US withdrawal there was a power vacuum and sunnis were afraid a Shia dominated government being repressive
Imagine a world without sandniggers
Q: why does ISIS hate non-muslims?
A: their religion teaches them to.
>>713828079
Nigger, nobody thinks Islam is a race you retard
>>713828174
I think they hate us because we bomb their countries
>>713827055
>Islam isn't that bad
You fuckin wat
>Islam isn't that bad guys.
...but it's still bad.
Red Rocket Standing by
>>713827055
i'm okay with any religious people that does not inclute hardcore social restricions and/or violent murder and/or mutilation as part of the application of their faith.
>moderated mooslims are okay
>>713827055
hes right. The problem is not the religion itself, but the people doing what they want using their religion as an excuse to get away with it. Like those fucking jews.
>>713827055
Don't mind me...
I'm just here designing advanced AI systems that will allow the normal humans to design and build machines that will exterminate the enemies of rational thought, can roll off assembly lines by the million and can't be converted to any ass-backwards goat-fucking religiosity.
You're slightly welcome...
>>713828441
>mutilation as part of the application of their faith.
The difference between Islamic and Jewish circumcision is that Jews MUST be circumcised to enter the covenant with God, it is a blood sacrifice. In islam it is only mentioned in the hadith and it's done to be part of the community so you can be Muslim and not get circumcised
>>713827055
Wrong. It is objectively the worst religion around today. Its core tenets aren't especially worse than the other religions of Abraham, but its followers and their behavior sure does suggest otherwise. I tend to agree with the likes of Chris Hitchens on the subject of Islam, its a barbaric, juvenile religion going through its growing pains and lashing out to compensate for its relatively small faith-penis.
think we're past debating with these people
>>713828703
>>713828539
>Like those fucking jews.
pls no :(
>>713827055
>actively promotes mass murder of all non believers
>"oh Islam ain't so bad guys cuz look at this nice drawing gahuck gahuck"
Fuck off Hillary
>>713827238
Its true ! In Islam, Science agree to religion (or be beheaded) - thats truly peaceful...like Stalin or Hitler was.
>>713828869
>>actively promotes mass murder of all non believers
About 20,000 radicals of a religion of over a billion people
>>713828925
>about 20k radicals
Nah. Global information points to approximately 15% of all muslims are extremists.
That's nearly 200 million.
And it only took 12 mudslimes to carry out 9/11
The peaceful majority is irrelevant you shit sucking retard.
dont forget
Hijrah: Migration for the Cause of Allah
aka invasion
>>713827055
No, it's not ok.
>>713829001
>. Global information points to approximately 15
Sauce Nigger
>>713829001
>And it only took 12 mudslimes to carry out 9/11
It was 18 not 12 and the US deserved it
hijrah so they can peavefully overturn the consitution and enact sharia on everyone wooo democracy
>>713827055
>>713827055
> but Islam is pretty ok tbh.
>>713827055
Islam
>>713828441
Bruh I'm muslim and I'm not circumsized haha
>>713828969
oh, That's cute
>>713828925
Muslim countries regularly poll as having majorities of their populations agreeing to such things as executing apostates, so that bullshit apologetics isn't gonna fly. The majority of Muslims are stone age savages even if their exist Muslims at least superficially compatible with modernity. At their core, no Muslim can be compatible with modernity. No faithful of a religion of Abraham can truly be faithful AND compatible with modernity, the ideas they worship are too barbaric.
>>713829090
http://i.4cdn.org/gif/1480271260414.webm
Source on your 20k terrorists claim? No?
>>713829194
You can't just make up stats
>>713827387
>DEUS VULT
What happened the last time? Oh wait, whole balkans have been turked beyond repair.
>>713829119
>and the US deserved it
Ooo nice edge, careful you don't cut up your desk at school with all that
>>713829194
>No faithful of a religion of Abraham
So most of the USA?
>>713827055
Its no worse than most other major religions. Theyre all stupid illogical cults. It just so happens that islamic areas are currently the most backward and primitive. Go back to the middle ages and christian europe was the retarded backwater who terrorised innocent people and islamic countries were most advanced. Its all about perspective
>>713829119
>>713829264
Good thing I didn't
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/05/01/64-percent-of-muslims-in-egypt-and-pakistan-support-the-death-penalty-for-leaving-islam/?utm_term=.70fbb1b0f700
Mind that Pakistan and Egypt are both technically "secular" countries and allies of the west. Also mind that other allies of the west include literal kingdoms like Saudia Arabia, where women can't drive, thieves have their hands cut off and homosexuals are thrown from towers.
Islam is savagery, thuggery and bullshit, absolutely incompatible with modern secular life and I'm goddamn sick of people who supposedly lean left making excuses for it.
>>713827387
DEUS VULT
>>713829308
Starved millions of iraqis with sanctions after the Gulf War, supporting tyranny in Islamic countries, Egypt, Iran, Saudi, et al. for decades since WWII, having troops in Saudi Arabia during the gulf war violate that nations religious customs, bomb Somalia for literally no reason,
Get bombed in Yemen and East Africa, don't take the hint, get 9/11'd and still don't understand why Islamist hate the US.
>>713829313
Most Christians in the states are cowed and tamed by modernity. They follow Christianity laxly if at all, keep it more as a cultural backdrop for their miserable lives. They love their flatscreens and ipads more than Jesus. The true, lunatic Christians are in most regards every bit as barbaric as your average towelhead.
>>713829001
It doesn't matter, the problem with islam is that it will NEVER modernize because 98% of the entire muslem population are among the poorest people on this entire planet. Religion turns into absolute control when you just need a meal. The only reason Christianity modernized is because the White Master Race came to absolute global power. All White people are Western Culture, and more likely to be Christian because of Rome. It's where the cards fell. If roles were reversed, I'm sure Islam would be the modern religion and all the dirt poor christian fucks wasting away in the desert would be easily pulled into extremism.
We are where we are now. It doesn't matter what few muslem migrate and modernize in other countries. What matters is that eventually they push western countries, namely Russia and US to turn the entire middle east into a gigantic sheet of glass, allow Jews to genocide the rest of Palestine as any conquering army should have done. And then let the remnants of Islam hide in dark basements for the rest of time like Pagans.
>>713827334
First of all, islam isn't okay with homosexuality and secondly muhammad and quran teaches us that wives are to be respected and cherished. People can do a lot of bad things but don't say that the religion is okay with that. I can't really blame you for your warped view on islam since there are no more caliphates that rule with true islam. Don't say saudia arabia or all those other 'muslim' countries are good examples of how islam is. Read about the life of the prophet and his successors and you will see how a real pious muslim is. Now there are only hippy apologetic muslims that muddy up their religion to satisfy the unbelievers.
A muslim isn't even allowed to live in a non islamic country but still you see them everywhere.
Anyway if you want to learn about islam go to the source don't look at people.
>>713828294
That's merely what brings more people to them and gives faggots in the west an excuse to protect them
>>713828715
also i'm pretty sure that jews get circumcised at birth while muslims usually do it to kids around 10 (witch is still wrong but a lot healthier)
>>713829418
hey dude you have sauce for this?
>>713829596
>>713829675
In islam its not a religious ceremony either like the brit mullah or whatever jews call it
>>713829565
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWToW9ZNOpo
>>713827511
You are an idiot. That anon is right, human depictions are absolutely forbidden not just of the prophet.
>>713829680
AVOP-154
Saying that you are your biggest victim is just giving people more reason not to like it. On top of mass shootings, driving trucks through crowds and blowing people the fuck up with pressure cookers for no fucking reason on top of murdering other people from your religion is absolutely trash. Also when you guys become more accepting of apostates to where you don't murder them for it, then talk to me sandnigger.
>>713829682
You don't have to be some class-cucked, race obsessed manchild to hate Islam. I'm a communist and I despise it in particular apart from all other religious bullshit.
>>713827677
Music is haram but who needs it if you have cool isis nasheeds
>>713827498
well thats a point for islam I guess
>>71382967
Jew here
Jews get circumcised 8 days after birth
>>713829787
name of that girl?
>>713827334
Look at Muslim countries like Bangladesh that have a female Muslim president before america
>>713827677
TO SERVE ALLAH
SUBMISSION TO A GREATER POWER IS THE GREATEST SOURCE OF HAPPINESS, SADIQ. TAKE JOY IN YOUR SLAVERY AS WE WIPE THE INFIDELS OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH. THE WORLD HAS NEVER LOOKED AS BEAUTIFUL AS IT DOES WHEN YOU ARE ON YOUR KNEES BEFORE ALLAH.
>>713829831
You hate it because islam defeated communism
>>713829945
and then an old jew sucks the baby dick. not even joking
>>713829565
>true, lunatic Christians are in most regards every bit as barbaric as your average towelhead.
Every bit of THIS.
>>713829789
>Also when you guys become more accepting of apostates to where you don't murder them for it, then talk to me sandnigger
This is most Islamic countries m8.
>>713830061
Never happend you fucking pdo tard
>>713830017
It defeated the Soviets, and I have little love for the Soviet Union post-Lenin. My hatred of Islam is more driven by the grotesque and hateful ideas that make it up. It is hard to think of a more blatant, barefaced example of unfreedom than the religion that is literally all about submitting completely to a vicious desert war god.
>>713830160
>desert war god
More Muslims live out of Arabia than in Arabia tbh
>>713827055
Despite their views on modern science and socium they're also pretty homophobic.
I'm a bisexual man (mostly gay tho) & I "might" be in danger if Islam takes over the world.
So fuck no.
Hope kikes nuke them.
>>713830147
Actually he is right, in traditional Jewish brisks the old kike with the scissors sucks the baby dick before he snips.
>>713827055
I don't trust women. I hear that they bleed out of their vaginas. How can you trust a creature that bleeds out of their vaginas???
>>713827055
Muslims, Christians, Jews, Mormons, Scientologists, Jehovas Witnesses... you can all fuck off. Nobody wants your weirdo fairy tales, religious warfare, God abiding laws or scientific denial.
>>713830147
yah, it does happen. the Mohel puts the babies dick in his mouth to stop the bleeding.
>>713830221
And your point is? The faith began in the desert. Muhammad was a warlord who united the savage desert tribes to bring the "decadence" of the city-dwelling Arabs to heel. That his followers now live across the globe doesn't change the history of the faith.
>>713827163
Palestine not exist you need to accept that
>>713830317
Oh I forgot about the pedophilia. You guys can keep that as well.
>>713830245
Why are gays hated for being effeminate when they're arracted to men? Wouldn't that make gays like hyper masculine?
Tbh straight guys are the fags for being arracted to weak pathetic women. I'm so masculine I only fuck men.
>>713827055
>living in a mostly agnistic atheist country
>working with afghans
>at least one of them take offense over me saying things I didn't even know was offensive
>religion makes you as easily triggered as the retarded Trumplets and SJWs
>>713828733
All Abrahamic religion is shit. The world would be a much better place without.
>>713830370
Good goy
Palestine already does exist
>>713830455
I agree, but all religion being more or less equally terrible in principle doesn't change that Islam is, currently, the worst religion in practice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_lCrccZG3o
All religions are bad, because they teach people to believe in lies.
Religion is a social virus. How about make decisions based on your own opinion versus those brainwashed into you.
>>713830547
It's not islam it's Arabs tbh. Lots of peaceful Muslim countries outside of sand land
>>713830455
you forgot the fedora
>>713830490
Who you calling a goy iam a fucking jew
>>713830562
>>713830644
Oh fuck off then. End Israeli apartheid now.
>>713830598
False. If you look at Islamic populations in Asia, the Pacific Islands, and even in Europe you will find the same exact despicable ideologies and behaviors seen in Arabia. Fuck off with the apologetics. Religion is poison and Islam is an especially potent one at that.
>>713830455
this.
old religions had this "don't piss of the gods and ask for their favors if you need them" attitude instead of the "submit completely to him or you're worth less than shit" thing abrahamic ones have
>>713830709
israel will live forever
>>713827361
I disagree. Adherents of Islam are committing far, far more acts of violence.
And don't bring up the crusades - that's literally ancient history.
>>713830847
All it takes is one US President to recognize Palestine and withdraw American support for Israel
Put America first
>>713830547
I'd say islam is the worst religion in CURRENT practice.
Back in the days, Christians were pretty solid on taking the old testament face value. And Catholics constantly used religion as levy for war support.
Looking at the fundamentals on the books, Islam seems more modern and progressive, even though the founder was a warmonger. In modern practice though, Islam is absolutely the worst big religion there is.
>>713830876
> Christianity
>understanding the word ancient
Unless all Muslem nations band together and create the most powerful military on the planet, they are all fucked beyond all forms of the imagination. It doesn't matter how many suicide bombers they send. It's infinitesimal compared to the number of muslems that will be wiped out during the future resource wars purge of the middle east.
>>713827055
> main victims
> ignores that any of own side dying is a net loss and offense
> ignores innate human rights of people brought up in a theocracy
jews
>disk on key
>Iron Dome
>Kinect
>Waze
islam
>9/11
>fucking goat
>isis
>>713830966
It has a lot to do with the roots of radical Islam as an anti-colonial ideology that was used to push back against western imperialism, but of course the west wasn't just bringing exploitation, it was embedding the Muslim world into the global system and exposing it to modern ideas, so radical Islam became also a reactionary movement against these modern ideas like secularism and tolerance, ideas that the Islamic world had previously been fairly ok with.
But I'm not making excuses for Islam. Understanding why Islam has become a lightning rod for anti-modern reactionaries doesn't change how awful it is or the role that the ideology itself plays in its popularity among such radicals. It would be terrible on its own without the radicals, they just accentuate its worst features and make them more obvious.
>>713827055
False. Islam is cancer and every single Islamic country is a disaster on human rights.
>>713830903
>barack hussein obama
>hussein
israel still alive, your point?
islam is reactionary cancer
same goes with all religions, but islam takes the fucking cake
>>713831388
This is a picture of you
>>713830903
The entire Palestine vs Israel thing is completely meaningless. Palestine shouldn't have invited them, and if they forced their way in, genocided their shit. Also vise versa, Jews shouldn't have tried to weasel their way in, they should have just wiped out all of palestine so they didn't have to deal with bullshit. Both Palestinians and Jews are dumb fucks for allowing the current situation to occur. Of course the natural step from here is for Jews to wipe out all of Palestine and be done with it.
ah yes i can imagine a world without god.... not much different
This propaganda is stupid. I don't need to be reminded 5 trillion times about how peaceful and awesome Islam is when that religion promotes jihad. Why is Saudi Arabia funding ISIS when you declare how amazing it is? You cut off people's heads when they don't agree with your ideology. Half of your people do not believe in natural rights or free will and we won't tolerate the brainwash any longer. Shouldn't have started Al Queda and should not have started ISIS. There's a Christian genocide happening as we speak in Syria and you couldn't give a shit less. Well it's over. Your religion is cancer and it will stop spreading when doctor Jesus takes hold. DEUS VULT!!!!!!
>>713831440
Explain?
>>713830562
THIS!
>>713831585
If you get your social views from South Park you're more retarded than any Muslim.
>>713831636
If you think Obama is a secret Muslim you're probably a redneck or at least very idiotic.
>>713831585
What Athiests don't realize is that religion MUST exist. Not everyone is strong willed. They need the comfort pillow of a re-assured positive afterlife otherwise they will literally go insane. Atheists need to stop pushing their shit same goes for religious people. Religious people need to stop pushing their shit views on everyone. Just make your own individual decisions on what you believe, and keep that shit to yourself.
>>713831718
What? He admitted that he is Muslim. He slipped up in an interview I believe in 2007 that when he was asked about his faith he said Muslim but the mediater corrected him by saying Christian. I could pull that up for you.
>>713827939
We think for ourselves and we choose islam. You are the closeminded people that can only accept your own way of life. We teach our daughters to keep chaste and dress humble. And what is your response? Hurr durrr opression of women. You can't even understand that there are women who know what honor is. You only follow your desires and feel shame because you see muslims that want to live good and wholesome lives.
We're closeminded monkeys because we dont want our daughters to be sluts and our sons to be faggots
>>713831808
More apologetics, sorry not good enough. Religion is more than an individual's belief system. A religion is a dogma and an institution or set of institutions that has power to effect society. The main difference between a cult and a religion is, after all, that a religion can levy an army or influence politics. If it were as easy as "live and let live" then I don't think you'd find too many people disagreeing with you, but its not. These institutions are anachronisms at best, incompatible with a modern, secular and free society. At worst they are openly hostile to secularism and human freedom, and so allies of secularism and human freedom must oppose them at every turn.
>>713831897
Show me then
>>713831909
Fuck you. I've seen that when you marry children you put blankets over their heads on the way home so they don't know how to run away. You're probably an amerifag who goes to Berkeley college, spews shit all day and knows nothing of Muhammad and his heritage but only his hatred towards Jews. Don't worry though. You'll be judged according one day.
>>713828765
Flying horses, right?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG_N3QltrWY
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln5fVgM0gLQ
>BTFO Islam ain't on the side of good.
Thanks Op. Tell me more.
>>713832038
https://youtu.be/nMhB-CwF4yc
>>713831808
Nonsense. If their will is that weak, kill 'em. If their only concern in life is what happens when they die, give them a shortcut to their destination, so they know right away they go nowhere, and are no longer a burden on everyone else.
>>713829010
Hijrah means migration to islamic lands idiot
>>713832308
Proves nothing
>>713829278
They used to hold twice that much land in Europe.
>>713832091
>priests rape little boys
>therefore christianity teaches pedophilia
Oh and fuck you too
>>713831808
>>713831989
You morons assume all religions are just made up stories. That isn't necessarily true. The fact that you don't realize what a surreal world we live in and reject the existence of a creator shows your immense ignorance.
>>713831592
Stopped reading when you said saudi finances isis.
That's also why they are enemies and isis tries to overthrow their regime right
>>713827055
OR maybe with no religion noone can claim to fight for it and everyone fighting is a much smaller group of chimps with guns and bombs?
>>713830598
> Lots of peaceful Muslim countries outside of sand land
There's so many of them that you didn't even bother to name a single one. Compelling argument you've got there mate.
>>713830369
Savage desert tribes that conquered persia and the roman empire
>>713832442
Of course you're immune to facts but there's more if you do the research
>>713831989
I agree that institutions must be minimized and their power in world supressed (in religion that is).
But if you go way where you start to deny people their right to believe what they want to believe, you just turn everything upside down and you are doing exact same shit believers have done for centuries.
>>713827055
I don't give a fuck about iSlam unless it's a new Apple product and then I would only laugh at it too.
>>713827419
I personally like the part where some faggot comes along and says something stupid like " in the <outdated religious text> it's okay for me to <do something not considered SOP in current civilization>" while being intentionally ironic and foregoing all reason.
>>713832665
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.dailycaller.com/2016/10/10/hillary-in-leaked-email-saudi-arabia-and-qatar-are-funding-isis/?client=ms-android-att-us
>>713827238
What the fuck are those brainwashing pictures ? Is that what you show to your child ?
>>713831909
most kids who grew up muslims don't know any alternative ways of life, hell, they even have a hard time considering life outside of the religion
>>713832586
Yeah you're right. The bible promotes sin even though sin is difficult to fight off. Your bible promotes cutting off heads and destroying infidels but won't admit it's sin. Why do you promote killing people who don't believe your teaching? I'm just curious.
>>713833032
You have a link that says they are funding isis? Wowzers now it must be true. Fucking sheep
>>713833234
>most kids who grew up muslims don't know any alternative ways of life
Most Muslims have internet dumbass.
>>713833234
That's not true. If you leave islam you get the death sentence but muslims living in the west don't need to worry about that punishment because no one will enforce it ergo they are free to do what they want. Did you think every muslim is pious? In this day an age everyone just does what he or she wants so that includes people who want to live according to islamic rules
>>713831267
Yes indeed. I cannot call myself well read on the colonial era influence on Islam, but it absolutely seems as if muslims have had a rise in radicalism the past 100 years.
Pan-arab nationalism and the anti-colonial interests you mentioned sure helped. Only have surface knowledge of any of this though.
>>713832719
qtftfytfqft
>>713833258
You act like we could be there to get our own resource yet you can't. There are plenty of sources combating it and you have no thought on it. Go on fucking wikileaks to sort through the entire emails you faggot. You shouldn't give an opinion if you won't read what's out there you stupid fuck. Take my advice if your IQ is qualified and don't be a fucking teacher.
>>713829627
>no more caliphates that rule with true islam
This right here is your fucking problem, mudslime mcgee - NOBODY should be ruled through religion. Even Americans, dumb as they are, managed the seperation of church and state. Shove your ass backwards theocratic ideals up your dirty mud cunt.
>>713827055
>Islam is a backwards thinking ideoligy that encourages people to hate and project blame outwards instead of teaching self reflection and compassion.
>>713827519
Arabs, and specifically Muslims are given special dispensation ny edict from Reinhardt Wilhelm 3rd as friends of the Prussian state.
The German aristocracy loved "mohhamadeans"
Tell me more about your so called naziism.
>>713833641
Correct. In fact, Germans relied on the middle east to extract Jews during the holocaust and were rewarded. They play a team effort.
>>713833491
what really fucked up these countries was the cold war, and how both the us and urss freed and armed radicals (like bin laden) that were IN JAIL before that
>>713828166
>>713827519
>>713833251
I was being sarcastic it doesn't promote pedophilia. My point was that you shouldn't judge the religion based on its followers because they are only human.
As long as there isn't a peace treaty there will not be peace between us. But there won't be a treaty because the west will not abide a country that is fully ruled with shariah. Usa and saudis are best friends thats why they don't say anything but if a muslim leader were to come the west would again make a coalition under the pretext of 'democracy' and invade that country installing west friendly puppets.
It's not even just muslims, god forbid a country will rule with its own lawn ( not democracy) and the west will invade them.
And no it doesn't say it's a sin because it simply isn't. If you were to kill an unbeliever that lives in an islamic country or from a country that has a peace agreement then that is a sin.
>>713833563
You understand that people dont want the same things right? If you don't want to be ruled by religion then fuck off to another country. But if people want to live under religion then you fuck off insecure faggot and let them
>>713833829
>>713828851
God damn that's an awesome sales pitch. If I knew this earlier I would've converted right away. But never too late to do what's right.
>>713833801
What's still fucked up is how USA persist in supporting Saudi Arabia despite it practically being a Jihad factory dictatorship.
Meanwhile the hypocrites enjoy calling Iran evil, painting it as somehow being worse than Saudi.
Not to mention, that USAs CIA was the trigger factor for why Iran looks the way it does today.
Not even "CIA did 9/11" conspiracy. Actual well documented historical fact.
And of course half of USA goes crazy over a very, very rational deal with Iran.
I love americans in general. Pleasant people really. Just unimaginable how they don't stand up against their stupid foreign policies.
>>713834235
So much this
Iran dindu nuffin
>>713833894
Thou Shalt Not Murder. Murder is a sin anon. Killing someone over beliefs anywhere in this world is a sin. There is a genocide in Syria right now and you need to acknowledge that's evil as shit. Stop condoning violence and denounce it. You want to stop being labeled as a threat? Then stop promoting it.
Saudi and America are not best friends. Once we finally become oil independent then we shall establish an aggressive approach to that country. We shall not negotiate with terrorists or anybody who threatens the life of any kind due to a way of thinking. They are Islamonazis just like Iran. Many people in those countries agree with being free yet these regimes thrive under tyranny. They must be destroyed anon. God wills it. DEUS VULT
>>713827055
Get the fuck off, muslim asian faggot. Ain't that allah the pig is gonna burn your fucking ass in hell for being on this filthy kuffar website?
>>713834085
But what about the women who have no choice? In America feminism is popular but when asked your question they believe what you think. It's stupid.
Many of those people want to be left alone and do what they want but it's their government dictatorship that submits them. These people don't have a choice anon. Not one.
>>713827614
White Leader arriving soon
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>>713834321
What a hypocrite, so when your beloved crusaders said 'to kill an infidel is not murder it is the path to heaven'
Islam is a complete religion we have guidlines for almost any situation. And to kill an infidel that didn't sign peace agreement or isn't paying protection tax is not a sin in our religion. Thou shalt not murder is christian bullshit. Islam know the nature of mankind and knows that we can be cruel. But our religion doesn't become shackles on us like christianity. We are forbidden to kill any muslim or any infidel that has one of the 2 criteria I just mentioned.
There is no peace between us, you are killing us left and right and you think we will turn the other cheek?
>>713834321
And I wont trust you infidels to give us peace. We will get it ourselves with God's help
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>>713828417
Roast Red PORK standing by...
>>713834683
There is a verse in the quran that says 'there is no forcing in the religion' so forcing a woman or a man to do anything religious is unislamic
>>713827498
Kek. Didn't expect that one anon
>>713834877
I just told you there's a Christian genocide in Syria right now. Shackles? What a great excuse to murder innocent people. What we do in war has nothing to do with murder. War is war. You only tolerate your religion and when people are dying because you don't want them in your country we have a religious right to save as many of those people as we can and you refuse to acknowledge the evil. Jew and Christians are the enemy to you. I've seen them extend their hands to the people of Islam but what do they get in return? Chopped off heads. Islamic hate motivates war. God wants peace with everyone but war is necessary to combat evil threatening his people. There will never be peace until the murdering stops. You have a choice anon. Get those Christians out of Syria.
>>713830080
Death penalty isn't a bad thing tho
>>713834579
You are a virgin
>>713827055
>Maybe it's not religion of peace or religion of fun
Boy, you sure make a strong case for Islam. You're gonna convince many people this way. Honestly you're actually doing the world a service by being so lackluster and partially honest. Stop oppressing women and go oppress your asshole with a knife.
>>713830080
Its the same fucking religion, guys, theyre all based upon that bloody, shitty book of the Jews
>>713835814
They all think that they're the same religion
All abrahamic religions think they're the right one
>>713835101
Ok so why do middle eastern Islamic countries do just that then? What permits them to disregard that verse in the Qur'an and obey every other thing in it? I don't get that at all.
>>713835458
Wtf? So if you people do it its war so its okay. But when we retaliate then we're the murderers?
So muslims are incapable of fighting wars? Hypocrite.
>>713836135
What? Don't mix up murder with war. War is killing the enemy. Murder is killing someone in cold blood. I'm not saying you having wars or being in war is wrong. War had always been necessary since the dawn of time. Murdering infidels over a tax or beliefs in general violates natural law or free will. That's what makes war with Jihadists necessary. Stop killing innocent people.
>>713836135
I don't see Christians going around trying to behead Muslims as a daily routine. Why won't you just accept that doing that is evil? It makes Islam look terrible.
>>713831860
would bang her / 10
>>713834321
Westinghouse / Lockheed AWACS radar planes are flying motherfucking Command Control Communications flying motherfucking braided Kevlar and Carbon Fiber armored fortresses that own the sky when combined with support fighters to do their bidding.
The USA gave (sold very cheaply) several of these to Saudi Arabia, we still send retired military trained service technicians to Riyadh to work there. There is no way that the USA would secretly have embedded a kill switch toggled by signals embedded in GPS sattelite transmissions. No way! Because if we did we could Easily allow jet fighters or bombers from Iraq or Iran or Syria or Israel to be completely invisible to the AWACS radar and override even ground radar by marking them as friendlies or Birds and ignored.
It's not as if the firmware of the Motorola DSP64000 signal processors was encrypted while written on the chips, and the boards are the de facto possessions of the Unites States, subject to inspection, removal, and revocation by signal at any time. The same kill switch signal can also be used to force the DSP's to overwrite their bootstrap and significant code with NOP machine instructions, rendering them useless.
Saudi Arabia knows we hold their balls in a vise, and Saudi Arabia's visegrip like hold on our balls is loosening every time someone buys a hybrid, installs solar panels, destroys the Canadian wilderness to access shale oil or tar sands, or fracks their state and hopes the earthquakes don't get worse like in Oklahoma.
saudi Arabia bad mouths the USA to their Muslim friends but knows that the USA or its sattelite (Japan) butters their bread.
>>713830732
>>713832730
Bangladesh and Maldives come to mind for me. I've been to the Maldives. Stayed in a guest house at a local island in kaafu atoll and some days at the capital. It's a 100% Muslim country and yet the people are very respectful and fun to hang around. They are just as appalled of ISIS as the rest of the world, and I know several whom I'll call friends there. Great people. I would say they are modernized. They follow a separate law inspired by but not the Sharia to the letter, women have all the rights that men do (they drive, play sports and work), and hijab isn't compulsory - burqa aren't worn by almost half the female population. They don't try to preach their views or look down on you. Alcohol is forbidden except in resorts and select hotels though, or at least not in public. They don't have the death penalty and certainly wouldn't stone gays although it may be frowned upon by some old people. Why color them the same as these uncivilized barbaric sandniggers? I don't agree with libtards on many things, but all this extremist values held by middle East Muslims are not shared by the Muslims of the rest of the world. It's a regional cultural thing, not a religion thing.
>>713827511
this picture makes me want to cut the Israelis a check for the explicit purpose of killing you and that kid.
maybe i'll get a 2 for 1 deal. jews love deals.
>>713827055
>Maybe it's not religion of peace or religion of fun, but Islam is pretty okay tbh.
You need more articles in that sentence.
>>713837671
didn't several atheist bloggers get fucking hacked to death in the streets in Bangladesh?
I mean, i get it, generally anyone with a blog is insufferable, but these people went out of their way to murder people with machetes over their fucking livejournals
>>713827055
Do you condemn hammas?
>>713836097
It's not forcing anyone. If they have said the simple phrase even once, "there is not God but allah and Mohammad is his prophet" then they are considered to be a Muslim. If they later decide Not to be a Muslim they are killed.
There is no forcing heheh.
The people have free will, as long as you restrain your free will if you "change" your mind.
Children are taught the phrase and will be told that if they say it they are a Muslim. But before that it is likely that they will say it on their own before Ever being told that once you're a Muslim you will likely die if you change your mind.
There's no Miranda rights for Muslims.
If they keep their mouths shut, but stop practicing Islam, it Will be noticed.
They greet each other with Salaam!
It's part of Salaam Aleikum etc etc (I'm not going to apologize for spelling errors in non English words).
What happened to my post about the Saudi AWACS radar planes?
>>713838089
>Do you condemn hammas?
Why would he do that?
>>713838554
Stop talking about them, Frank.
>>713838663
It's a simple question. If Islam got rid of Hamas and all the killing for stupid shit then it would be a religion of peace as it claims. And would really just be a return to traditional values.
>>713837947
Well I haven't been to Bangladesh. But certainly there is always a minority community in such places that goes unchecked. In the Maldives, there is a Facebook page for atheists with over 2000 followers last time I heard. Mind you, the population of the country is roughly 400k. The members are visible. Nobody cares or took action. I actually became friends (good lay. shit was cash) with a teacher there at an international school on the capital. She told me some of her students were disillusioned of god and atheists as well. One was gay. Gen X is a bit traditionalist but even then much more tolerant and accepting than these middle East extremists. Millennials are full on secular and accepting. I think the middle East is so fucked up and backwards is because the US went there and destabilized the entire region, allowing minority extremist groups to take advantage of the power vacuum and come to power. With added problems like poverty, they just latched onto their faith more fervently and suddenly extremist groups had an easy pickings of the pool for young recruits. Maldives on the other hand being a popular tourist destination in the Indian Ocean, is rather well off and developed.
>>713838983
On the other hand Bangladesh is rather poor and poverty stricken. Much of the Maldivian labor force is composed of Bangladeshi immigrants. US-Mexico situation comes to mind. Lots of illegal immigrants taking jobs at hellish conditions leading to a youth population of high unemployment rates with relatively high crime and drug rates. Maldives isn't perfect by any means, with a corrupt government and all these issues, but this isn't at all anything to do with religious extremism.
>>713838913
>wanting your homeland back is stupid shit
jew shill pls go
>>713839400
>homeland
Israelis and Palestinians have been fighting over the same godforsaken peice of shit land forever. A third party should just step in split it down the fucking middle and tell them both to stfu.
>>713839400
You don't see the native Americans pulling this kind of shit. Both Jews and Mudslimes are terrible people and deserve horrible deaths.
>>713838913
If your homeland got taken over by some other population that your people initially welcomed out of the goodness of your hearts, who are now refusing to acknowledge your right to existence and sovereignty, and the rest of the world is doing fuck all to help, wouldn't you be mad? The Palestine youth is growing up at a torn warzone, most likely orphaned, taught all their problems are because of Israel. Which it mostly is - those parasites took over Palestinian land. Obviously they are angry and easy to influence and radicalize. I'm not saying Hamas bombings is the solution, but can't you see it's because we fucked it up?
>>713839586
This. Just split it 50/50. The Israeli have a right to the land now and shouldn't pay for the crimes of their ancestors, but Palestinians shouldn't be fucked over for it. America is vetoing and protecting Israeli interests. If we are truly to be a righteous international military judiciary, at least be neutral. Or just go full on isolationist and not intervene on either side. Instead we protect Israel against all repercussions from UN, silence Palestine proposals with veto, and share our defense system technology. The fuck?
>>713839586
>Israelis and Palestinians have been fighting over the same godforsaken peice of shit land forever
Not really, at most 100 years. Large scale Jewish immigration to Palestine started in the early 20th century, there wasn't a significant Jewish presence there for thousands of years before that.
>>713839668
That's probably because they're nearly extinct, and they're outnumbered by immigrants by like a million to one.
>>713840040
>The Israeli have a right to the land now and shouldn't pay for the crimes of their ancestors
So if a squatter woman had a baby in your home will you were away, the child would have some sort of right to your home?
>>713832930
>tips fedora
>>713840040
No and they have been fighting over "The holy land" since biblical times. Read more. Both parties have been there for goddamn forever and have a claim to the land. The U.S. should just stop pussy footing around and say get along or die. But war is more profitable.
>>713840058
And even when it was a small presence the islams and Jews were fighting over the land. Jews just gained more power in the last 100 years. This fight has been going on since jesus.
>>713840194
Well what would you do? Squatter woman is now dead, she can't take the baby back. Why not keep it, or if not, at least put it to an orphanage. But in this case, we're not talking about one fucking baby, we're taking about millions of people. They can't be relocated easily - and where would they go? Make Israel pay reparations perhaps in the form of money or technology/education. Make them fix the situation they fucked up. Relocation is difficult and nigh on impossible. Genocide is inhumane. This best benefits both parties.
>>713840576
This, fuze the two into one nation and tell them to get along and rebuild. Or we kill them all.
>>713840194
worked pretty well in America, wouldn't you say?
hate to break it to you kiddo, but history is full of examples of one group moving in and displacing another. Its nothing new. it just happens that this time around Jews are involved, and they managed to take back what used to be theirs to begin with.
arabs were invaders to that part of the world anyway. they came from further east. but somehow any parcel of land magically becomes theirs forever if they ever so much as took a shit on it.
they still bitch and moan about losing the Iberian Peninsula when the Spanish took it back.
>>713827055
>victims of Islamic terrorism are other Muslims.
>>713830370
>>713827163
>>713827055
>Islam isn't that bad guys.
It's literally the only relgion on the planet that requires a genocide to fix it. World's biggest cult. They can't be integrated into civilized society, like you could bring over a family of muslims and after 25 years they'll still want to kill just about everyone else.
I was going to make a list of everyone they want to kill but it's literally everyone. Which is pretty metal, but I'd rather not have it exist.
>>713840741
But that's the thing. The age of barbaric conquest is long gone. Anybody should be outraged about this happening at this age no matter who is involved, who the aggressor or victim is. We are more civilized than we used to be. History doesn't define the present.
>>713827614
i-auzi cine e frumosul asta
>>713841014
The Jews don't want a worldwide jewish caliphate.
They don't believe you should kill everyone who disagrees with or even makes a joke about your God.
Death to all muslims.
>>713840576
>at least put it to an orphanage
Exactly. Most, if not all of these so called "Israelis" were or have ancestors that were citizens of some other country before they invaded. Make them move back there.
I know this is unfeasible for many many reasons, but we're not talking about practical solutions to the problem, we're talking right and wrong.
>>713840741
>but history is full of examples of one group moving in and displacing another
Of course it is, but the situation in Palestine is the most egregious case that has happened in modern history. We should be above land grabbing in this day and age and the Zionists deserve every bit of hate that is directed towards them for their actions.
>>713828703
I like you, I want to join up with you.
>>713841014
>the age of barbaric conquest is long gone
it really isn't. ask the Chechen people about it. or the multiple smaller ethnic groups that the Chinese government has been actively displacing with ethnic Han Chinese.
shit, just ask the Sioux tribe up in North Dakota.
The Jews up and took back what was theirs from a culture that spread on conquest and the sword. I'd say its poetic justice, albeit on a scale of centuries later. Good on them.
>>713841352
I wonder if you'd say the same if natives took up arms and massacred all the Caucasian Americans? "Good on them." I mean it hasn't been centuries, so should be fine right?
>>713841258
>Of course it is, but the situation in Palestine is the most egregious case that has happened in modern history
See Chechyna, Tibet (and other parts of China), Iranian Bah'ai, Kurds, Armenians, Yazidis, Coptic Egyptians.
I could go on, but I really really doubt that in all your suspiciously selective morality, that you'd really care.
I don't think you know what either the word "egregious" or the term "modern history" mean
>>713841352
Amy empire in the past spread upon conquest and annexation. It's not just the fucking Muslims. The British (Vikings and Anglo-Saxon)? America? Australia? Let's give the land back to the natives eh.
>>713841733
>massacred all the Caucasian Americans
not entirely a good analogy. There are still a bunch of Palestinians running around. more than there were before.
And yeah. I would. Not like we wouldn't have it fucking coming in the karmic sense of it. Some truly epic and horrible shit was done to the native tribes.
Maybe the Seminole tribes could start with taking back Florida and killing everyone there. I'd be pretty cool with that.
>>713827055
backwards barbaric desert religion is backawards barbaric desert religion, not two ways about it OP
>>713841352
Same with all the other various minorities within Russia, with their own languages and cultures. Least most of them aren't being actively subjected to violence/warfare - they "only" face mandatory russification programs etc.
>>713841942
Goddamn. This is some Original Sin level shit. People shouldn't be held accountable for the crimes of their ancestors. And descendants shouldn't be paid reparations for victimization of their ancestors long ago that they themselves never experienced a portion of, by descendants of the aggressors. You're talking some Black Lives Matter ideology stuff right there.
>>713827055
Dont need the wisdom of of long old dead ppl. Take a hint from kids that dont even listen to there parents.
This thread is proof of why idiots weren't allowed to read for a thousand years.
>>713841755
Yes and how many of those groups have been kicked out of their homes by a foreign people?
>>713842073
>Least most of them aren't being actively subjected to violence/warfare
Russia is very much still active in Chechnya militarily.
>>713842427
Chechens were forcibly relocated by the Soviets and the Russians still roll through every so often and kill people in what I can only describe as "for shitsky and gigglesky comrade"
Coptic egyptians are leaving egypt at a pretty steady rate. their population within egypt has plummeted in recent decades thanks to systematic discrimination and outright attacks by the Muslim majority
ethnic displacement is still ongoing within China
Yazidis are still being gone after by arabs
Kurds are still kept from having their own country in their own land.
if you so much as poke your head out as a Bah'ai in Iran they'll probably fucking kill you for it. They still destroy their cultural sites for shits and giggles over there.
>>713827511
if buying a fucking big mac is all i need to do in order to put a bullet in a sand-nigger...
count me the fuck in.
>>713832930
>trudeau.jpg
>>713827238
That fucking booktitle though
>>713842754
>Russians still roll through every so often and kill people in what I can only describe as "for shitsky and gigglesky comrade"
Blatant lie.
>Coptic egyptians
>egyptians
They're Egyptians and no one is forcing them out of their homes.
>ethnic displacement
Even if that's true, they're all Chinese.
>Yazidis
That's a religion.
>Kurds
An independent Kurdistan has LITERALLY never existed. They're a non nation.
>Bah'ai
A religion.
I'm not saying injustice doesn't exist in the world, just that foreigners aren't kicking people out of their homes like the Zionists did and continue to do.
You were supposed to give me examples of that happening you lying scum.
>>713829001
I gotta say that 9/11 happened because the people on the planes were pussies. I mean, you can fucking stop someone whose only weapon was a box cutter
>>713843217
Italy.
>>713828851
Sold
Where do I sign up?
>>713827511
>>713827055
remember muhammeds baby wife? The 6 year old Aisha? Muhammed was a baby fucking, goat fucking faggot.
>>713827055
>not religion of peace
>not religion of fun
so why bother?
>>713827055
if you are a straight man then yes. if you are a woman, gay, child or anything other than a straight man, then not so much
>women
has to wear kebab suit or get stoned in the name of Allah. fucking sluts
>children
need to louse a part of their genitals or be stoned in the name of Allah. degenerate dirty humans not cutting for our lord!
also they make very good aids vaccines and sex slaves.
>homosexual
blasphemy! of the roof you go my friend, sorry.
>but im not gay, im just gay looking
same shit. you act like them, we kill you. allaho akbar my friend.
>any other religion including atheism
it says in this random book someone told me we should care about that we should kill all these people if they refuse the book. do you refuse it? no? me neither.
>>713845430
>has to wear kebab suit
All cultures mandate some sort of dress code no?
>>713827163
> For Peace!
Towering cloud ghost dude in full armor, wieldin two knives and a sword, pointing with a determined look as if telling his men to slaughter a village. Yup. Peace.
>>713827055
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA8DdkM2Wqo
>>713845667
Most western cultures do.
>>713827055
>>713827116
>>713827163
>>713827238
>>713827498
>>713827511
>>713844104
Seriously, who makes these fucking anime Islam propaganda things?
>>713844104
>>713844104
>>713846729
no, they dont
>>713845522
Do most cultures have murder as the consequence for not following the dress code?
>>713846977
A woman would be arrested in most, not all, western countries if she went outside with her breasts exposed. Why? Dress code.
>>713846991
Neither do Muslim countries you ignorant fuck.
>inb4 Taliban
Though I doubt even the Taliban did that.
>>713827055
yeah if you are a man it's pretty great
>>713842174
>Black Lives Matter ideology
BLM demands reparations?
>>713827055
If there are reincarnations islam is shit cuz I don't want it, if there is only one life Islam is shit cuz fuck em all sand negros
