What does /b/ think of The Amazing Atheist?
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What does /b/ think of The Amazing Atheist?
>>713516408
hes a fag and hes gay!
Makes good videos, I prefer watching DP of his videos though.
An absolute retard
>>713516604
DP is what I watch most of too.
>>713516616
>>713516469
Religiousfags detected
>>713516604
*over
>>713516750
kek but no
>>713516750
I don't have to believe in god to know he's retarded, anon
>>713516604
>>713516712
>dp
>deep penetration
>>713516859
Id like to know why you think hes retarded. He seems pretty reasonable to me.
>>713516993
Yes, otherwise knows as the deep penetration podcast.
Is this the guy who fucks himself in the ass with bananas?
>>713517074
>otherwise knows as the deep penetration podcast
>otherwise known
I dispute this
>>713516993
Dickless Penises
-Brett Keane
>>713517091
That is a leaked video of his from a couple of years back.
>>713516998
You've seen him pour oil on his cold whilst shoving a bandana up his arse right?
>>713517158
God damn iy.
>>713516408
I think he is pretty fucking hot 11/10 would bang
>>713516408
he enjoys things in his asshole. Degenerate edge lord that should have been bullied to the point of suicide in HS. But I'm sure hes a nice guy
>>713516998
Well anon, you may be kindred spirits.
I'll be happy to disprove your beliefs if you get that handy table of logical fallacies out so you can debate me like a real neckbeard.
jk he's just a hateful finger-wagging person, that is nobody you should ever idolize anon
>>713517213
Don't pretend you have never done some perverted shit.
>>713517213
So because of his sexually fetishes hes retarded? And I thought for a second you might be reasonable.
>>713516993
It actually stands for double penetration you middle school aged virgin
He uses logic and reason to debunk shit, so he's a better person than every christian ever, there's that.
>>713517384
DP has been deep penetration since the 80's bud
>atheist
>anti feminist
>trump supporter
does he think we don't notice?
>>713517313
Wait are you reading what I said right? Saying someone is reasonable = idolizing them? Hello?
>>713517363
Any man that likes things in his asshole is a retarded brain damaged manatee.
>>713517363
Guy fucks himself in the ass with bananas
He's the picture of reason for atheists
TJ uses too much logic for these fucking retards on /b/ to comprehend, so I'm sure none of them watch him.
>>713517491
The dude's a jackass anon, it's one thing to be atheist, it's another to be shitty about it
Do you actually watch his videos? I feel like we're talking about different people
>the
>amazing
>athiest
that guy
He preachs common sense as if he's a genius
>>713517441
Wrong
>>713517554
I would like to know how someones sexually fetishes discredit their arguments / opinions and make them retarded.
>>713517450
he doesn't support trump retard
>>713517598
I bet a buffalo nickle TJ loves b since most of you fags just post trannies all day now.
>>713517496
Hows that religion workin out for you?
>>713517599
There it is. IM pretty sure most of the hate he gets is based on reactions to his name. He should have chosen something like MrRepzion but too bad.
>>713517738
10/10
>>713517791
Well actually, haven't been to mass in years and I haven't been smited by the mighty smiter.
>>713517711
Easy there Anon. If you give him too much logic his brain might explode after having to rub two neurons together in his fickle brain from the amount of effort to formulate an original thought. Also nice double dubs.
>>713517791
autism, that has nothing to do with being religious. go be an edgefag somewhere else
Hes just a guy that talks loud about shit most people would already agree with. Everyone has one of those friends right who agrees with you but hes always preaching to you like its you hes trying to convince? Yea hes that guy.
Discord PRufZ
>>713517091
>>713517284
He's an attention seeking faggot. These "leaks" were something no one was looking for, he allowed them to happen. I mean seriously, who gave any fucks about him before he put a banana in his ass?
The show it's self seems to only consist of him and his friends being assholes, controversy for the sake of controversy.
Don't get me wrong, sometimes that can be funny and entertaining, but they lack any and all talent to pull it off. They are just not funny...
He claims to wan't reasonable debate and rational thought in one video. In the next video he dismisses arguments and calls them an asshole.
His aim to controversy. This is all he is and does. He has no self respect or any real ability, only controversy.
tl;dr He's shit.
>>713517554
theres less atheists, than religious ppl. Theres more fetishists among religious ppl, than among atheists. Looks like hes actually a picture of reason for theists, only hes not a theist
>>713518089
well meme'd my friend
>>713518215
>wan't
Holy fuck dude, do you have autism?
>>713518581
...no, I have auto text...
Do you have a point?
>>713518215
>>713518581
>it's self
no1 was lookin for those leaks, yet u care so much
>>713518714
do u?
>>713518714
>i have auto text
>cuz i cant spell
>>713518100
Right, telling people what they can and cannot do, and labelling them as retards for doing something you dislike, sounds pretty much like your average christian and not a reasonable open minded person.
>>713518581
>>713518725
>>713518775
Wow, some people are pretty mad.
Is anything I have said wrong? Maybe you can correct my understanding and not my punctuation. lol.
>>713516408
hes been garbage for about 2 years
>>713518067
So you're one of those 'pretend christians?
>>713518714
You're phone is almost as retarded as you are if it thinks wan't is a word.
He is perfect bear daddy for an 18 year old autist fag.
>small penis doesn't hurt fresh boipucci
>looks like a typical beta suburban IT dad
>can go on long rants about edgy immature autist topics
>can relate to teenage angst
>blonde hair for Nordic purity
He is the perfect match for a sweet lil southern autist fag
>>713518999
How long has he been on the internet?
He's been garbage about that many years
>>713519098
What is your point? I have bad punctuation?
>>713516408
He was fun to listen to years and years ago, but when you pass your edgy atheism phase and just learn not to give a fuck.. he's more annoying than anything.
He does it to make money, can't blame him. Plus it's always nice to see people catering to teenagers on the topic of religion and why it's bullshit, as schools teach the complete opposite, only reasons why it's good.
>>713518958
prove he allowed this leak
he had subscribers before he did that, and quite a number
being direct and unrestrained is entertaining, cuz it releases tension accumulating during the social interactions, where emotional reactions r not encouraged
>they r funny
>but they dont know how to be funny, so theyre not
which video?
Controversy sells and he lives off of yt. What do u live off of? Licking the boots of those richer than u?
u r a shit
>>713518714
....... Not that I don't believe you or anything but, how the FUCK does a phone auto-correct into a word like that? o.O
>>713519023
I dont talk about religion and when someone tries to talk to me about it I tell them no and change the subject.
>>713519527
Probably a mistake I made.
Who cares?
>>713519138
boipuksi?
boipuccini?
dont try to invent spelling - english comes from latin and latin has rules
>>713519023
What is a pretend christian? So mass is what makes a person religious? Is this the logic this fag you guys love are talking about?
>>713519138
>implying they'res something wrong with that
>>713519591
Self proclaimed christian then, you dont give a fuck but pretend to be just in case?
>>713516408
Bearing does it better
>>713519796
People who just say they're christian and pretend they're better than everyone else for being so, and because they are scared of that big meanie up in the sky who will send them to hell otherwise, but they don't actually practice religion or do any of the things that their God requires from them.
>>713517426
>le all Christians are dumb meme
Well bananaed, friend
>>713519924
what is a self proclaimed christian? who would I be pretending just in case for? Who am I to say what is right and wrong about religion? The funny thing about Atheist is that they sound just like the hardcore religious fucks that say they aint religious enough.
>>713516408
god-tier youtuber.
yes, i can see the irony.
>>713520092
>and pretend they're better than everyone else for being so
That's an atheist buddy...
>>713520230
Nothing to do with meme's, just a fact.
>>713519522
>prove he allowed this leak
The person who leaked it was some sort of BDSM woman. He knew her pretty well and was a repeat customer.
>he had subscribers before he did that, and quite a number
being direct and unrestrained is entertaining, cuz it releases tension accumulating during the social interactions, where emotional reactions r not encouraged
I suppose that is true, to a point. But if you're trying to have a rational discussion restraint is important.
>Controversy sells and he lives off of yt.
What a fulfilling life he must have. I'm envious, obviously.
>What do u live off of?
I make a decent salary.
>Licking the boots of those richer than u?
Not exactly.
>>713516408
Seahawks fan
dude is my man
>>713520403
For God obviously, we all know how scared people are for hell because mommy and daddy scared you with that as a kid.
>>713520092
>don't actually practice religion or do any of the things that their God requires from them.
Love me and accept me and I will love and accept you. That is pretty easy to do so why would I not do that?
>>713520710
That isn't what Christianity is.
Christianity is obedience, or else.
>>713520230
>bananaed
kys, newbie
>>713520666
Satan detected
>>713520669
>For God obviously
um something tells me that he would know if someone is just "pretending" so again, who would I be pretending for?
>>713520710
Mainly because it's pretty fucking retarded.
>>713520938
>newbie
kys newfag
>>713520879
Says the atheist... so nothing in the bible about love or forgiveness or dont be cruel to cruel people... none of that?
>>713521031
>newfag
kys newfrag
>>713521015
You right it is retarded Ill change my ways! Bananas in asses for ALL YAY!!!!! Fuck Jesus YASSSSSSSSSS lol
>>713521031
>>713521130
It doesn't say any of that shit in the bible, faggot. Stop making it up.
It is a blueprint for obedience.
>>713516408
He is an amazing atheist
>>713517441
> since the 80s
An era you never lived in. I'd even wager that the 90s are just are nothing more than a collection of meme pics to you.
DP = double penetration
When your balls finally drop, anon, you'll understand.
>>713520526
People like that make most other atheists look bad. I consume atheist media but have no desire to make such broad statements, or consider myself any smarter of a person because of a lack of faith. I find religion a silly consept but interact with great thinking religious people everyday.
>>713521267
Nothing to do with sexual preferences or interests, only religion is retarded enough to interfere with that.
>>713516408
I could look like that if I grew a beard and dressed that way. Should I?
>>713521334
and we done, enjoy talking to yourself about your manatee fetish.
>>713521532
shame
>>713521130
Ephesians 6:5 - Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.
I don't know about you guys but this seems like love to me and totally not blind obedience.
>>713521600
Are you fucking stupid?
>>713521532
>manatee fetish.
Talk about making stuff up out of your butt
>>713520526
>they're better than everyone else
why are you a dipshit who still believes in a false god?
>>713521699
maybe he's from Floriduh
>>713521695
What
>>713521267
While I know the cringe here is intentional, it still hurts.
>>713521695
That sarcasm went way over your head, didn't it?
he's kind of a cunt, a meme, and not funny. he is only enjoyable if you are an edgelord athiest.
TBR is better anywhay
>>713521532
>>713521760
You're not fooling anyone with your no caps at start
>>713522124
it's because I always post high
He's annoying and cringey but I agree with most of his opinions. I haven't actually watched him in a few years though tbh
>>713522194
Understandable enjoy the trip
>>713516408
good for him
god doesn't exist
there is no proof of one
>>713521412
This. You can be an atheist and still be respectful of other people's religious beliefs. I can't stand the self-centered arrogant assholes who everyone thinks of when they hear the term "atheist".
Be careful atheists. Other you could be purged from Israel
Deuteronomy 17:12 - Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the Lord your God must die. In this way you will purge the evil from Israel
>>713521936
No, I didn't even read the post. I felt like opening a random thread and posting that as a reply to someone.
>>713519704
you know not of the chan
http://4archive.org/board/b/thread/680503042
>>713518235
false equivalency
>>713522556
sounds like a bit of an agenda there
>>713522556
Otherwise*
>>713522453
You only live once. Why be a dipshit who believes in a false god?
>>713521412
>>713522453
Basically I am an atheist who doesn't disrespect other people's religious beliefs. Been doing it for a while still get hate but then again who cares we all have are different beliefs just don't enforce them onto to me.
>>713516408
I really like him....
And if you don't like him or have never heard of him, look into bananagate and his response to it.
It's the most epic possible response to a video leaking of a fat guy masturbating a micropenis with a banana up his ass.... fucking epicly hilarious.
And he's usually correct on most things, he's a liberal and I'm a libertarian so I don't agree with him on the finer points of politics, but he's 100% accurate on most things. Usually pretty funny and insightful too.
>>713516408
his views are pretty much perfect and anyone who disagrees with him is a retard
>>713522556
>Deuteronomy 17:12 - Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the Lord your God must die. In this way you will purge the evil from Israel
Never supported Israel in the first place
>>713522816
>banana
>banana
>banana
I'll shove my cock up your ass faggot
I actually like him even though I don't agree with him on everything.
I like him as a role model for someone who made a comfortable life of speaking his mind and makes a lot of money doing it. Right on!
>>713516993
>>713517074
>>713517175
>>713517384
>>713517441
>>713517695
>>713521367
>OP just trying to gauge peoples opinions about shitty youtuber
>derails into acronyms about penetration
lmao you peasants
>>713522940
>I'll shove my cock up your ass faggot
Faggot spotted
he was ok, now he's a sellout. He's a little too in to himself and his ego has gotten beyond him. Also why the 30 minute documentaries abut getting baked all the time? I don't mind if he wants to be a stoner, but that's not why I had subscribed. I unsubbed a few months back when he started pushing apps and shit.
>>713522997
*drunken peasants
>>713523016
fuck you that doesn't make me gay
you are
>>713523016
why is /b/ so afraid of faggots? There are so few of us.
>>713516408
he's cool
>>713522816
>lol banan
>im a liberal but i don't agree with him
>banan in asshole LULZ
it would be mutually beneficial to all parties if you consumed a flagon of hydrogen peroxide
>>713516408
He's annoying as fuck, but great to watch on loop when stoned.
>>713523208
>us
faggot detected
>>713523172
>>713523208
Kys faggots just kidding
>>713517213
It's known as doing the Bananarang and people do it all the time where i work
>>713523172
>>713523208
I still hate the guts out of you faggots
Something about this guy has some of ya'll triggered af.
>>713523706
because you think about sucking cock sometimes
come on admit it anon
OP here. I should've expected this thread would derail into a shitstorm. Apologies to all those who have been butt hurt here tonight.
>>713522753
Honestly, as long as they're not hurting anyone why does it matter? It seems necessary if they're personally trying to convert you or upset you, but other than that it's just shitty to attack them.
>>713523885
Some ppl can't handle TJ.
>>713523869
Not anymore
>>713519501
Unless your talking the early 20th century and before, schools don't teach religion in fact they teach evolution
>>713524230
I do though
>>713524364
that is so cringe
I would have at least printed that out in some cool font
Scientology is the only religion in the world to mix science with fact.
>>713521314
Yea dud the 4chan is the most politically correct place I know I 100% agree with this picture.
>>713524610
Tom Cruise detected
>>713516408
Disgusting muslim loving cuck. He was so quick to jump the the defense of the hoax bomb boy ahmed. Dropped his ass right after that.
>>713521215
>newfrag
kys newfag
>>713524364
This is basically my little brother as of recent.
>>713521314
Are you some kind of newfag? Have you even been on this site before or did your middle school buddies dare you to go on this site?
>>713524880
Why don't you suck his cock?
>>713525047
Kek
>>713516408
Who?
>>713524847
That kid knew what that would suggest
>>713516408
Seems like an SJW shill. Loudmouth, blah!!! and almost as shrill as Hillary. The self-deprecation is laid on a bit thick. I can't stand assholes like him and John Stewart that like to straddle the line between news and comedy. They never get them both straight.
>>713525268
Get that satanic Shit out of here you hellspawn
>>713524174
He is far too blah!!!!! for my taste.
>>713523857
He is an SJW. SJWs will always trigger /b/
>>713525389
Hows this?
>>713524878
kys newbag
>>713524701
>>713525029
>Taking b8 this hard
Kek
All he wanted to do was study hard, so he could be a humble engineer. But they could not let him be. Now they have to pay him $15 million. He is just a peaceful honest muslim boy who wanted to be an engineer.
>>713525806
>newbag
kys newfag
I don't.
>>713525961
kys newjag the 2nd
>>713526054
>newjag
kys newfag
He is constantly advocating that we take as many Syrian refugees as possible. He is a strong proponent of the "not all muslims" doctrine. His self hate is palpable.
>>713526054
Kys new Jap the kazi
>>713526166
>>713526257
kys Neo Faggots
>>713525856
$15 million is nothing compared to the damage a well-engineered bomb can do, even if it's a peaceful bomb.
As long as genocide is still considered politically incorrect, the best we can do is just bribe these people to do something safe and boring.
>>713526554
Ok, gimme $15 million!
I had no idea about the oil or banana, but if true that's fucking hilarious and brilliant.
I recently unsubscribed from him after a couple of months, because I realised he's just boring, repetitive and his arguments/points are entry level shit. When he acts better than religious idiots, he's not wrong, but he is a cunt because he doesn't have any great reason other than "I'm better because I'm better."
It's okay to act better than religious retards or unscientific ass holes, but it's also annoying unless you actually back up your position.
>>713526708
>>713526721
It's not brilliant, or hilarious. It's highly cringy and nauseating.
>>713516408
I heard he's a faggo
that's not coolo
>>713516408
He's a sjw hidden behind the facade of an atheist. His rants are more annoying than listening to the videos he criticizes, and his points are not always sound. He is just a smug fatass lesbian.
>>713516859
Hell of a lot smarter than you'll ever be
>>713526996
>Hell of a lot smarter than you'll ever be
In bible verses
>>713516408
He shoved a banana up his ass on video.
I do not care if people put things in their ass. I do not care if they record themselves doing so.
But a banana? He had to pick the least respectable thing a man can put in his ass that isn't Jeb Bush's cock.
>>713526721
>Boring repetitive
This.
He takes the lowest hanging fruit for youtube views.
>>713517313
>When a neckbeard is far far smarter than you and you get extreme butthurt
>>713526237
Wrong. He is actually really intelligent, and realizes that the most good he can do is enraging people so that they wake up and see the truth for themselves. Science shows that people with strong feelings are not persuaded by arguments, but instead need to think they convinced themselves. This approach minimizes cognitive dissonance.
Who?
>>713526903
Yeah, and that's exactly why it's brilliant and hilarious.
>>713526996
How do you know this? Has he taken an IQ test? Does he have a PhD?
>>713517450
Hes not a trump supporter you retard lol
>>713523523
... what? I can't believe I had so much faith in humanity
>>713517496
LOL nice bait fam. I love DP too.
>>713526589
They succeeded in making you argue about this. You are fighting an imaginary opponent, intentionally constructed in order to distract your attention away from thoughts that would actually threaten their source of power.
>>713517599
Lol being a pussy cunt who coddles retards isn't how you make theists change their mind.
>>713526783
>sunday
more like sun dial
If you're going to be a hipster and ironically use outdated technology, you might as well do it right.
>>713527353
>12 27
TIL a year has 27 months
>early 2000s, the west still holds traditional christian values, gay marriage is illegal, being a faggot is frowned upon
>4chan loves the amazing atheist
>present day, organised religion is fading in the west, gay marriage is legal, degeneracy is rife
>4chan hates the amazing atheist
really makes you think
>>713527200
He destroys idiots in ways that people educated or laymen can understand. Unlike content producers with more "professional" stances who talk and act in a more advanced way, he can bring points down to easily understood bits, while still making them fun to hear and keeping them making sense.
Hes the best skeptic content producer on Youtube. Period.
>>713527794
but anon, the amazing atheist's bananarama was obviously degenerate, and 4chan has always hated degenerates.
It's just also composed entirely OF degenerates.
>>713526721
He backs up every position he has. ._.
>>713527890
So uneducated fuckups like yourself who think they know their own dick from a scrub pipe.
>>713528017
>4chan has always hated degenerates
We are "Secretly" degenerates, faggot
>>713527794
Religion is increasing in the West because of all the immigrants.
>>713528168
my mistake, faggot
>>713528090
Aw thats cute. You think you're smart... <3 isn't that just precious?
>>713528054
No, he tries to, and fails way too often.
>>713528297
>my mistake, faggot
Nice try, faggot
>>713528353
Is that a counter argument or just you being a little turd nugget.
>>713528477
You didn't make an arguement in the first place, why should I take you seriously cockrider?
>>713528364
Name one time? Lol.
>>713528893
You called him a racist and then posted a dick pic like anyone wants to see your shriveled little bingo bro. Check it faggot
>>713529200
I never said any of that dude.
>>713516408
I'm an atheist, and I think he's an annoying faggot. I think most atheists who flip their shit over someone saying "bless you" when they sneeze are either autistic, edgelords, or attention whores. Religion exists. It isnt your job to tell people what they can and can't believe in, I'm almost sure that's one of the reasons you're probably an atheist. People are free to believe what they want. You just look like a fucking sperg when you scream "GOD IZNT RAEL!!!!1!1" to anyone wearing a cross necklace. If you're okay with looking like both a retard and a cunt, then keep being an atheist and keep sperging out over religion. If not, then keep your hatred of religion to yourself. It's a pretty simple concept.
>inb4 religion has done so many bad things, we should get rid of it
So have about a billion other things, though I doubt you oppose them.
>>713529360
>except TJ does none of this and actually condemns atheists who do lol
>>713527794
people always have something to be upset about, thats what they live for
>>713516408
No opinion.
That's Not Rape! video was fucking hilarious though.
>>713529360
yeah we have more important things, like getting fat fucks like you to go vegan and stop fucking the world, your health, and the animals
>>713529678
>that doesn't mean I don't find him to be an annoying faggot
The rest of the post was mostly for the faggots in this thread calling everyone who doesn't like him Christian, and then being a cunt.
>>713529333
No one cares about your anime obsession.
Stop talking.
>>713529864
Nice b8 m8
>>713529946
seems like a bait until you realize its all true
meat and dairy directly correlate with america's top two killers (cancer and heart disease)
animals (which are sentient) in these hell factories are abused physically, mentally, psychologically in dozens of ways, and no grassfed isnt better, heres 100k & you get to live for a couple of months have fun
and animal agriculture is unsustainable and soaks up thousands of gallons of water for a lb of meat, 80% of our antibiotics, 50% of our grain (which we would feed to the starving people), acres of forest chopped every day, desertification to land that we'll have a hard time getting back, methane from cows being one of the most potent greenhouse gases, etc.
You could leave the shower running for hours and still waste less water than a LB of meat would.
>>713517175
I wonder why Brett Keane hasn't received any attention from /b/ yet.
>>713530520
Tortured aminals taste better bro
proven fact
>science
>>713530520
Well I dunno what linebackers of meat have to do with anything
>>713516998
He puts Bananas up his ass, i'm not sure how you get more retarded.
>>713530838
eh its all about experimentation in cooking
if you fuck around enough you can replicate shit that tastes fucking blissful
>>713516408
I have agreed with him on things but he is so disgusting as a person that i could never respect him.
>>713530520
You are right, lets go back to eating cockroaches and lapping up old piss from a puddle
more like Amazing GAYthiest haha gottem
seriously though pretty cool guy
>>713522997
>lmao you peasants
>peasants
>drunken peasants podcast
OP here. Totally forgot about this bread, why haven't you fags left yet?
>>713531334
yeah totally because animal products is the only food choice we have
just google vegan ______
and you'll get pretty much anything, and as time passes, the better that replication tastes.
>>713518215
>who gave any fucks about him before he put a banana in his ass?
>several hundred thousand subs before banana
>The show it's self seems to only consist of him and his friends being assholes, controversy for the sake of controversy.
apparently TJ is just a Drunken Peasants member now
ok
dumb libcuck
used to be cool back in like 2006 before he became a total pussy
>>713517554
>He's the picture of reason for atheists
he's just an entertainer you fucking idiot. He has never claimed to be some kind of Dawkins-like figure
>>713519138
you sound like AIU describing theamazingathiest
>>713521699
I don't think you get the Brett Keane reference
>>713528963
Do you seriously expect anyone to actually bother going through his videos just to prove to you that you're wrong?
It's a generalisation, he uses shit tier arguments and easily refutable points on every single video. It's only the easily manipulated low brain-power bone heads like yourself that don't see through it.
I've already stated his points are usually correct. It's his poor reasoning for those points that is at fault.
>>713524499
comic sans
>>713525331
>SJW Shill
Are we even watching the same person?
Are you fucking retarded?
>>713516469
funny thing is hes actually bi lol
>>713532733
Sop attacking my family!!
>>713528090
>calls a person an idiot
>sentence is broken and doesn't even have a clause
>>713533552
mac n cheese
>>713530520
This is some persistent b8, m8.
>>713533430
<bi
>>713530520
I'm all for the vegan argument based on meat being produced on an industrial scale is definitely unsustainable (though we need a couple of billion people to just fucking die anyway, overpopulation being the biggest threat to mankind at the moment) but when you start talking about animals having rights or being abused or tortured, you've lost the fucking argument.
It's bad enough we give human beings "rights" never fucking mind animals.
