Words of wisdom from our great dicta- I mean president-elect Domnald Drumpf
>>713472271
lost
>>713472271
Still butt hurt over Hillarys loss?
>>713472659
Nope, Im a lib that voted trump. I'm butthurt that THIS is the nominee the republicans chose
>>713472801
I don't know why, the guy is fat, racist, doesn't like immigrants, and loves spend money that he doesn't have. He is a living personification of the United States, never a president represented his country so well.
>>713472271
He's right you know.
We're infested with communists, anarchists, and other undesirables who literally hate this country and what it stands for.
They need to GTFO.
>>713472801
Everyone else was at least 2 of the following
>bought out by billionaires
>a Christian theocrat
>literally so retarded they couldn't vocalize complete thoughts on policy
>unlikeable in almost every way
>>713472801
>lib that voted trump
wtf is wrong with you. well, this is the future you chose.
Lol if anyone agrees that is a good idea. I voted for the chucklefuck but if you are going to strip citizenship maybe start with Idk mass murderers or people committing actual crimes.
I like how Americans believe they live in a Democracy. The more you realize that you live in a Republic, the better.
>>713472271
your flag is meaningless in a world run by banks and corporations
>>713472271
>1500 retweets and 3600 likes
That's a lot of people that support cruel and unusual punishment
>>713474383
soooo. The Average American? maybe there's a reason why he spoke wonders to those who voted for him
>>713472271
sounds an awefull like islam to me. Punishing those who don't abide by your ideology.
>>713474639
> I voted for the chucklefuck
this is the future you chose
>>713474833
>loss of citizenship
>cruel and unusual punishment
Seeing how they are burning the symbol of our country, I would say they they are getting what they are asking for. They clearly don't like america if they are burning our flag.
It's burning the American flag. The very symbol that gave you your middle class housing with carpeted stairs. Ungrateful prick
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Master troll
>>713475037
>Seeing how they are burning the quran, I would say they are getting what they are asking for.
People with ideologies like yourself that remind the world of muslims are disgusting.
ITT: Americans act like muslims un-ironically
Fine people that burn flags, raise taxes on flags. Turn money earned from this on education systems that dont follow the insane leftist mindset.
Have anarchists and leftists pay for a better educational system that prevents thinvs like trogglypuff to appear.
Also have insane patriots pay for the same shit due to tax.
>>713472271
As a Swede, I actually think he is on the right track. Kill off the vermin who ruins your once glorious nation.
>>713472271
You anti-Trump heroes should burn all the American flags you can get your hands on
>>713475313
as the rest of the world, we generally dont listen to swedenstan when it comes to politics
>>713472271
>be billionaire
>be president elect
>still don't get twitter handle of choice
having
>real
in front of his name screams fake account
i always see tweets from this twitter. is this really his account? surely the president wouldn't be tweeting the these kind of things.
>>713475405
how can it be fake if it says real?
Humans have proven time and time again that they cannot govern themselves properly. Order takes precedence, and fascism is the only way to accomplish this.
>>713472271
Words of the McCarthy era. Making America great, like it was in the 1950's.
>>713472801
A lib that voted trump?
Must be a shit lib. Since he's a fucking horrible person.
>>713475165
>exclusion=killing/terrorism
A more sane parallel would be "you burned our holy book? Well fuck you, you are kicked out of the religion"
If you start burning menus or national flags in a restaurant they would kick you out and probably call the cops, they wouldn't just open fire on you or blow up your table.
>>713475568
Hillary is a-okay though kek
>>713475037
>someone does something that hurts nobody
>let's take away their ability to do anything that requires citizenship, like working and owning property
Everyone needs to refer to
>>713475142
>>713475642
He's not talking on kicking them out and even than as a citizen and someone with rights,you should be able to do something like that. Burning a flag is no different than burning a quran or any of religious symbol.
Punishing someone for either is just bad. I get your point and I did use a more extreme version; but howlong before you can't tell the difference anymore ?
>>713474476
Right to free speech and expression. And the government can't revoke citenzinship, that's against the constitution. You conservatards should know that
>>713475864
>that's against the constitution
No it isn't.
>>713475948
It has to be a sufficiently severe offense to warrant someone's citizenship being revoked, otherwise it's cruel and unusual punishment. Which is against the constitution
>>713475948
lol wrong?
>>713475864
lol right
>>713475142
I came here to post this. I'm posting this all over FB. Stupid libs didn't know it existed.
>>713476258
Burning the flag is declaring that you hate the country. That's sufficiently severe in my opinion.
Keep in mind the flag doesn't represent the government, a politician, a social problem, it's a flag of our nation.
If you hate our nation on a fundamental level you deserve to have your citizenship revoked.
>>713472271
It's a good thing he can't actually do this. He's just a guy with wild ideas who's about to find out how little power the president actually has. Democrats will still ignore the fact he can't be a dictator in the same exact way Republicans feared an Obama dictatorship. Get ready for the bs to switch sides for four year, boys
>>713475948
A citizen may legally volunteer to give up their citizenship. But unless that has happened, or a citizen has joined an organization deemed to be terroisitic in nature, it's unconstitutional. University of Texas law professor Steven vladeck has already affirmed that
>>713475801
My point is that if someone hates a country enough to burn it's flag they should have their wishes granted and be removed from our society.
If they don't want to be a part, we won't let them.
>>713476402
Back is 2005, that was nothing compared to what republicans wanted to do.
>>713472271
aww, terminal butthurt of a twelve year old.
>>713476468
Define terroristic.
>>713472801
so you like the way the democrats do it?
>>713476532
Nation or organization that threatens the sovereignty of other nations or declares war on said nation. Why are you retarded? Burning the flag isn't terroristic, it's free speech and that's already been ruled by the Supreme Court in 1989 and 1990
>>713472271
So the libs are still trying to make drumpf a thing in the words of shadman "its not that funny"
>>713475864
No, because the problem here is not the speeach itself but the harm to the patriotic feeling of the people, which is a legally protected interest by the state, the person, in theory, would answer for this damage and not for the speeach.
>>713474476
Yep, these fags should kill themselves first
>>713472271
how much is Hillary paying you to post here everyday?I mean....the fucking writing style is always the same
>>713472271
Based mom said it best when she said it's wrong to burn the flag of the country that lets you burn its flag
>>713476664
Neither was "nobama", but that didn't stop you.
>>713476430
>>713476489
This is what happens when you mix nationalism in with your ethics
>>713476733
Hurting people's feelings cannot be a legal issue. In the same way that saying "I hate niggers" might actually hurt someone's feelings, it can't be legally ruled upon.
>>713476624
Wouldn't that make the United States and our military a terroristic organization? Try again.
>>713475545
America was pretty awsome in the fifty's
>>713472271
I agree with him. Fuck, it should be an act of treason when you burn the American flag.
>>713476822
And that is a bad thing how?
>>713475142
The dude's a troll on a level I don't even know how to express anymore. This is some higher dimensional trolling.
>>713475384
Less % mudslimes and niggers in Sweden than niggers in United States of Africa
>>713476860
To the view of people whose interests we've fucked up yes. Al qaeda thinks we are terrorists. You're dodging the point, which is the following: the government cannot revoke citizenship for exercising your right to free speech, which burning the flag has already been declared as by the Supreme Court, precisely because it would be unconstitutional
>>713475142
The funny thing is how liberals are reacting to him tweeting this, when HIllary literally proposed the same thing. It's almost like he's trying to point out just how delusional everyone is.
>>713476822
Globalists try to shame nationalists for loving their families, friends, and country. It's not going to work anymore, we're done. The people have spoken.
>>713472271
this is the fucking truth.
If you have to burn the flag for a fucking political message, you are basically declaring yourself an enemy of USA and should be treated as such.
now that you're headed back to the middle ages, please don't drag the rest of the world with you, if you can, please.
>>713476988
no, I think you're dodging the point. Burning a flag isn't free speech, it's a declaration of war and a symbolic threat to the nation, not the government. Thereby it's not protected by free speech, or at least it shouldn't be.
>>713472271
Too bad for the first amendment huh?
>>713472271
>Burn American flag
>yay freedom
>Burn LGBT rainbow flag
>homophobe cis white male die in peperonies
When is the next meteor going to wipe out earth?
>>713476816
What the fuck is nobama I've never fucking heard of that
>>713476258
Checked, and I agree
>>713477106
Symbolic speech is still covered by the right to free expression. Get the fuck over it mate.
>>713477155
Dubs confirm that it never existed
>>713472585
This, kek. Every day it the shit show clown ride gets better. Good luck with that, Mr president.
What's next? Can't wait to find out.
>>713477150
Whats with the vault-tec jump suit?
>>713477225
Only as applied to the government.
Freedom of speech doesn't apply to the nation and the people. aka I can't threaten to kill you without consequence I shouldn't be able to threaten everyone in the nation either.
>>713477225
Threats are not covered my the 1st m8 :^)
>>713477026
You are a fucking piece of shit. 1st amendment. You fucking fake ass constitutional hypocrite. You conservo-s sure talk a big constitution game when you feel like ur the victim, but then get a little power & you become the oppressors. Twat.
>>713477320
Up to this date, I still wonder the same.
if you hate the country enough to burn it's flag, then why are you here?
>>713477106
Also it can't be a declaration of war. Flying planes into buildings is a declaration of war. Bombing us is. Actually saying "I declare war on the United States!" Is, but not burning a flag.
>>713474833
>cruel and unusual
Whats cruel and unusual about jail time for fucking treason?
>>713474779
but let me give you my opinion about some thing I claim to be meaningless.
>>713477321
Right to free speech covers speech that will not affect anyone's personal well being. I.e: I will kill you - not covered because it is a declared threat of violence. Burning a flag - defined as protest
>>713474860
yawn. muh education
>>713477364
So I can burn an effigy of my neighbor's family while yelling into a microphone that they need to die and I will be protected be the 1st amendment? Cool.
>>713475405
Master troll.
>>713477410
Burning a flag is understood to be a declaration of war.
It's like slapping someone with a dueling glove.
>>713477528
If you subtract the part where you say they need to die then yes you can
>>713474860
yes, that was the joke.
>>713477566
That's the dumbest shit anyone could say on the subject. Ask any professor in constitutional law and they'll tell you the exact opposite
>>713477404
It's a form of protest protected under the first amendment, idiot. People who burn the flag don't want to leave. They want their problems solved. Use your brain. Maybe read the constitution you think you know about.
Can we just go holocaust 2.0 on all registered republicans already? They've made it pretty clear they have no intention of furthering humanity in any shape or form, they need to be culled
>>713477522
>muh education
Nobody says that, blacks in this country made it "cool" to be uneducated.
>>713477520
Not true, only covers shit you say about the government,not shit you say about people.
The flag represents the people, not the government.
>>713474476
I don't think this country stands for what you think it stands for.
>>713476430
>Burning the flag is declaring that you hate the country. That's sufficiently severe in my opinion.
This friend needs a history lesson in the origins of the United States of America.
>>713477651
Good luck.
We have the majority of the police and military as well as most of the government and armed militias.
You sure you want holocaust 2.0? you'll be the one in the gas chamber.
>>713477682
That is completely untrue. Consult textbooks in constitutional law you retard. I can say jack shit about anyone I want and as long as it's not libelous, or threatening, it's covered.
>>713477691
But they are campaigning against the freedoms that let them hold differing beliefs
>>713477652
Was it really blacks though? I mean certainly they've continued it, but wasn't it originally whites?
Honestly asking, if there even exists an answer for this question of an obscure topic.
>>713477404
I think it's more about the corrupt people running it than it is the country itself. I love America and what it's capable of being but it's being run by evil fuckers
>>713477528
Yeah, you probably could. There are rules about threatening speech. Burning the flag isn't a threat & the flag isn't a representation of your neighbors, dummy.
>>713476827
Hurt people's feelings can't be a legal issue, but if your offense brings a damage to a person's objective or subjective moral or his mental health, you should take responsibility for it, again the problem is not the speech, the problem is the damage.
>>713472271
>>713477651
If you decide to go that route I hope you transnigger foxkin demiboy numales are ready for a fight.
>>713474861
Its treason bitch
>burn your own flag
>just get the fuck
>>713477785
Nope.
Disturbing the peace, sexual harassment, hate speech, bad language at the work place.
Freedom of speech only applies to the government.
What's the first amendment?
>>713477826
Subjective morality cannot be governed upon. That's stupid. Everyone has a different scale of what is considered moral and not, which is why you can't make how someone feels a legal issue.
>>713472659
>YFW Hillary conceded.
>YFW she tries to take conceding back.
>YFW she's trying to team up with Jill Stein.
>YFW she's jumping on the #Recount2016 bandwagon.
>YFW the results still won't change because Trump has a 60-point electoral lead.
>>713474383
Name one thing or quote Trump saying one thing that is racist. Go ahead, I won't hold my breath because you're simply not going to find it. I've asked this of thousand of people already and not one could do it. The entire media can't do it. Lets see how well you fair. Good luck on your impossible journey to prove your assumption. You could probably get millions for that quote or irrefutable evidence by the way.
>>713477826
>but if your offense brings a damage to a person's objective or subjective moral or his mental health
You just offended my subjective mental health with this idiocy. I think the punishment should be suicide.
>>713477878
All of these considered to be threatening. Try again
>>713475142
Trump is a fucking hero
>>713477945
She only conceded because Obama told her to.
That was after throwing a fit and breaking a bunch of shit including a 150" uhd tv.
Of course this toddler is trying to cheat to win.
>>713477566
Little did I know that I've been declaring a war on trees for years now.
Also I've been declaring war on Dr. Pepper, Rolling Rock, Dominoes, and various others that I've burnt cardboard packaging of in order to continue declaring my war on trees.
>>713478006
Disturbing the peace isn't threatening, it means you goaded someone into hitting you by being a twat nor is bad language at the work place. Hell in most states you can be fired freely for not liking the color orange or for saying you prefer goblins to gremlins.
>>713477877
Nice dubs. You should look up treason, but since I know you won't:
Treason - The crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.
>>713477682
The flag represents the government. Also the first amendment covers me calling you a jackass and the American people sheep. Deal with it
>>713478151
Not if it puts me in a rage and I punch you in the nose.
That's disturbing the peace and you'll go to jail.
>>713472271
How dare he question the character of people who openly despise and symbolically vandalize the country they live in, the bigot.
>>713478221
not that guy.... but you're clearly the one disturbing the peace in that scenario
>>713478143
Fired. Not arrested and imprisoned, or have citizenship taken away, that's an indirect parallel
>>713477682
>>713478151
Both false. The flag represents the original thirteen colonies, and the now fifty states united under one government. It is not exclusively representation of one or the other.
They teach this shit in third grade, niggers.
>>713478144
Burning the flag isn't overthrowing the government. Neither is saying the government is wrong or evil. In order to qualify as treason given first amendment rulings is precedent you literally have to call for a violent uprising and have followers.
>>713476493
being this butthurt.
>>713477824
Definition of threat
1
: an expression of intention to inflict evil, injury, or damage
How does flag burning/ effigy burning not constitute as this? When you take the symbol of something and internationally inflict harm to it, you are sending the message that you want harm to come to that which the symbol represents.
>>713478295
disturbing the peace-a crime generally defined as the unsettling of proper order in a public space through one's actions. This can include creating loud noise by fighting or challenging to fight, disturbing others by loud and unreasonable noise (including loud music), or using profanity.
>>713478299
Point is, freedom of speech only applies to the government. You're not allowed to say whatever you want. Fire in a theater etc etc.
>>713477812
There have been several different waves of anti-intellectualism in the USA. It wasn't started by 'the blacks' this one started in the 70's with the rise of the Christian right.
>>713476816
nice rebuttal dickface.
>>713478372
Pst... I think we agree with each other.
>>713478466
Oh little baby it's bad to talk about things you don't understand
Burning the flag is the proper way to dispose of it.
Usually the Local Boy Scouts will do it for you.
So do we jail them?
>>713478221
I bet you think attacking black children and lawyers working for civil rights was ok because the fight for civil rights disturbed the peace. Under your idea of disturbing the peace protest is illegal unless it's a popular idea burning a flag isn't shouting fire in a crowded theater.
>>713477971
“I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day… . I think the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.“
>>713472271
>I like to cry on b a lot because I'm a faggot
>>713478451
Well fuck, guess I'm wrong.... the fires that I start all loudly scream "FIGHT ME BITCH!! COME ON, I'M STANDING RIGHT HERE YOU PUSSY!!!"
>>713472271
I would like for you and your family to be in misery, lib scum
>>713478567
Depends on the nature of the protest. Most of today's protests are just low key riots and they should be water hosed and arrested.
Also burning a flag once again is a declaration of war on the people of the united states, not the government. If a law is passed making it illegal it is in no way unconstitutional. Deal with it.
So if we burn the Confederate flag instead of Old Glory that should make all you Trumptards happy, right?
>>713478002
>>713477921
If you offend a person's subjective moral day after day, and he end up killing himself, and if was proved that the cause of his suicide was your harassment, you will be held responsible for it, that is how the law works if you don't like it, change the law.
>>713478430
Is that what they mean at KKK rallies when they burn crosses? No. We Americans have the right to free speech & that is currently covered under that 1st amendment right. Many people in the past have tried to make flag burning illegal - yes, Hillary Clinton did too at one point. They are fucking stupid. We should be allowed to voice our discontent any non-violent way we want. If you disagree you don't value free speech & you are not a patriot - lol
>>713478804
Declaration of war on the people of the south, could be interpreted as disturbing the peace. It also could be made illegal the same way as burning an american flag could be.
>>713478804
No, too close to America's flag... burn Japan's or Finland's or Mexico's flag... then we should be all set.
>>713472271
Well with recounts going on in 5 states now, the protests, and now this, the EC will end up picking Hillary as the winner.
>>713478894
>in this thread
>still somehow doesn't know what freedom of speech means
niggers gonna nig I guess
>>713472271
hes going to legislate that. thats how the presidency works. im a mental retard.
>>713478968
sure kid
>>713478801
It's not a declaration of war. You could actually say you declare war on the people & or government of the USA, but because you're a lone citizen you are technically incapable of declaring war. That is something that only large groups can do.
>>713478556
This is what
>>713478466
he said
>>713474861
Go over there and burn their flag/symbology and see how that works out for you. I can sure as hell predict you won't end up fined or in jail...
>>713478925
>>713478948
There is ONE US flag and that's Old Glory.
The South is NOT separate from the UNITED States.
The Southern flag should be white.
>get over it - you lost, amirite?
>>713479013
Yeah nice bait. You know nothing /b/ro Snow
>>713479224
How large does the group have to be because it sounds like you just pulled that out of your ass.
Also
>deaf with autism
>huge group of people go check it out
>everyone does the sieg hail but too nervous to participate
>labelled a heroic rebel for all time
>>713478894
>KKK rallies
Wow, it is almost like they are considered a terrorist organization. Great example.
>>713472271
>Promotes American values
>Wants to restrict freedom of speech
????????????
>>713479306
This
>>713479327
I appreciate what you tried to do so let me help you.
le/b/ron Snow.
You're welcome.
Also you're wrong, deal with it hippie.
>>713479260
That's the difference between a free people & an oppressed people. We can do it without being abused by the man & that's the way it should be.
>>713472271
wouldnt agree with jail time but loss of citizenship definitely
>>713479306
but if we include the good ol' confederate flag, then we can take rights from minorities away again... isnt that what we want?
holy shit! trump is the rise of the south!!
we will rise again - proven true 2017
>>713479730
>rise of the south
>via new yorker with a jew fucking his daughter
That's quite a stretch, even for a libtard.
>>713472271
he is right though. you don't like america, get out. there is a perfectly fine country north of it. unless you don't like it because you hate white people. then you hate trump for making it harder for you to fight racism with racism. but then again, you can move to the middle east and join ISIS. i hear they kill all the white people they can find over there. off course unless their women that is, then they rape and sell them. perfect for people to ignorant to focus on the positive of their country like you.
>>713472271
>confederacy
YEAH WHITE PRIDE, literally nothing wrong with succession from a corrupt government unconcerned with the rights and powers of state government
Even after 200+ years, we'll be waving the REAL flag
>entire west coast wants to succeed
get over it, you lost, stop crying about it
this generation is so whiny
>>713479499
I'm actually a constitutional conservative, but fake ass conservatives are pervasive these days. They're running around being oppressive cunts & I don't abide that.
>>713472271
Anyone whom actually agrees with that, is a fucking retard. It's a piece of fucking cloth or w/e it is that a flag is made of. It's a symbol of the system you are FORCED to be a part of. What the fuck is there to be proud about and what the fuck is there so valuable in it?
People like you are the biggest cancer of this planet.
>>713474861
>awefull
Spelling, you illiterate cunt.
>>713479995
The flag isn't the government.
The flag is the nation.
You should know why that matters if you actually care about the constitution.
>>713475142
Read the text, idiot.
"...the bill's language was designed so as to prohibit the desecration of a flag when the intent was found to be a threat to public safety, the intention being that it would therefore not violate the First Amendment and not be declared unconstitutional."
In other words, that bill would still allow flag burning under free speech, which Donald is speaking out against. Nice try though.
>>713480228
>when the intent was found to be a threat to public safety
I'd say that's always since breathing in burning fumes is bad for you. Unless everyone within 100 yards or so is wearing an air filter.
>>713472271
The responses ITT are PROOF that trump can take away your rights and trump supporters would gladly give them up.
What happened to free speech now?
>>713480130
fucking opresive cunt
>>713480336
Why are cuckservatives like this? The point is, Clinton and Trump don't agree on this issue. Go suck America's dick nice and deep you drone faggot :^)
>>713480390
sorry, forgot to check my privilege this morning
>>713480130
Yeah, I've taken the oath to protect & defend it a few times. I do that whenever I get the chance & that's why I'm advocating for free speech on /b/ for fun today.
Anyone seeking to undermine the rights & freedoms laid out in the constitution is not making America great. They're the enemies of mah nation. Consider that.
>>713480130
The Constitution says you're allowed to insult your nation. Fuck the united States. Also the nation is the government. Otherwise irs just a piece of land. The flag is a government symbol. No one's trying to stop map burnings.
>>713478595
>“I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day… . I think the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.“
http://www.snopes.com/trump-laziness-is-a-trait-in-blacks/
Further more describing black people as lazy is not racist. One has to think they're superior to another race and or hate another race, for whatever reason, to be a racist. Simple describing a group as people as matter of your opinion is not racist.
Sorry, try again.
>>713478968
This.
It's coming to light that Trump clearly cheated and rigged the election. He will be disqualified by the EC and likely indicted by the justice department.
Land of the free
Can't do things with cloth that involve zero harm to anyone
>>713480621
Says government but you can keep making stuff up if you like. The nation is the people ya goof.
[Uneducated Opinion]
>>713480657
>“I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day… . I think the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.“
Forgot this one: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-courtship-of-black-voters-hampered-by-decades-of-race-controversies/2016/07/19/d9822250-4d2e-11e6-aa14-e0c1087f7583_story.html
If you continue to look, do provide sources. Also, quote Trump, not what someone says Trump said. There's no way to know if that person is telling the truth.
>>713472271
I will fuck this mother fucker in the ass if he pulls this shit
>>713478830
Find me a court case where a bully was tried for murder, assisted suicide, or manslaughter when a victim committed suicide
>>713474490
Trump is at least two of those as well.
>>713480845
No, the nation is made up of the people but ends where the boundary line of a government ends. Otherwise Canada and Mexico would be part of us, because our culture and people expand beyond boarders. Especially Canada. Holy shit. Parts are basically an extension of Montana. No, seriously. Get a map
>>713476931
>Hitler
Nationalism leads to citizens following their government blindly. Especially when Freedoms of Expression are limited
>>713481103
Damn nigga you autistic or something?
The people who are citizens of government x makeup the nation of government x.
Fuck, filter your water.
>>713474476
Yeah fuck free speech right? I think you should leave you communist son of a bitch.
>>713480348
I wonder why no one seems to notice this.... there's a reason why Trump supporters are called uneducated, and it certainly is not because "shill" or "cuck" or "lol libtearz"
>>713476430
Good thing you won't be in charge of anything ever
>>713477013
Yeah, we heard them.
>"DUUUURRRRRRRRRRRR"
Loud and clear.
>>713480948
Sure jose, go back to taco bell
>>713481271
We live in a representative democracy. We are the government. Or we are supposed to be. The flag symbolizes the government. When it ends we get a new flag. You don't see the Nazi flag flying today.
Displaying a flag and burning it are both protected speech in the constitution and the flag isn't enshrined in or protected by the constitution
You're moving away from American ideals and rights guaranteed by the constitution when you support this
>>713477150
Both are legal and invoke rage.
>>713481451
Oh now there's an actual argument instead of just making stuff up. Well done. However, I'd still argue that burning a flag is much more an attack on the people than on the government.
Sure the government is the people and by burning the flag you do attack the government but you also attack everyone who falls under that flag imo.
Next he's going to want to make it illegal to burn images of him. http://nypost.com/2016/11/22/why-trump-isnt-likely-to-open-up-libel-laws/
>>713481753
I'm not the person you're talking too, but burning a flag doesn't mean shit. It's fabric. Sorry if it hurts your feefees and makes your patriotism tingle, but get the fuck over it.
>>713481753
Burning the flag is, put simply, a protest against the ideologies you feel your government is representing. To many Americans, is represents freedom, democracy, and the American dream. But to some, its a president that hates your religion/race/gender/opinion.
And the fact of the matter that the ability to protest against a government is that you feel is hostile towards you, is the most fundamental aspect of any republic.
>>713481901
He is going to put images of his face on sides of buildings and billboards all over the country. Big likenesses of him will also be built at all international airports, and ports of entry to the US.
>>713481920
Then it's not speech and thus can't be protected by free speech can it?
>>713481936
Then protest the government and not the nation. When you burn a rainbow flag what are you saying?
>>713481753
But the flag is more representative of the government. Its not a symbol of the people, it's one of the literal government. That's why the south had a different flag. The stars represent states. When a new state was added it got another star. When we landed on the moon the government program to do so planted the flag to declare it our property. When we win a military battle we prop our flag up. It represents the government. Not the people. Now we have a government official trying to convince us that burning it should cause a loss of citizenship. Fuck that guy
>>713479407
There are actually legal protocols for a true declaration of war. For instance we declared war on Japan in 1941 Nixon did not actually declare war on drugs in 1971. It was symbolic.
I won't go & do the work for you but if you want to know more about true declaration of war you should wikipedia it or maybe find a good youtube video about it. I'm sure there's one out there.
>>713478801
"If I were king, I would not allow people to go around burning the American flag -- however, we have a First Amendment which says that the right of free speech shall not be abridged -- and it is addressed in particular to speech critical of the government," Scalia
You're not exactly a legal expert.
>>713482319
Well there are multiple interpretations. Of the larger issue of flag burning as well as the nature of the tweet itself. I still stand with my original point, flag burning is an attack on the people and should not be protected.
As many have pointed out he could be trolling again, like he did with the theater tweet. Get a bunch of your enemies to denounce something you say only to find that the person you support actually believes the thing you just denounced.
>>713482231
not according to the Supreme Court
>>713482628
Or he's just mad that people are protesting him and they happened to burn a flag during the protest. Which was peaceful.
>>713482628
Your opinion doesn't matter though, you're not a constitutional lawyer nor are you in the Supreme Court
>>713482765
But trump gets at least one supreme court pick
>>713474476
Freedom of Speech is a landmark of the American Religion. As is Democracy (i.e. populism). As long as "We" outnumber them in the right areas there will always be a balance of power.
>>713482735
Unlikely, but possible.
However Trump has a history of playing 5d backgammon on twitter. I doubt a post as potentially divisive as this was reactionary.
>>713482954
And it's not going to be you
>>713483074
Why not? He's done it before. He posts before he thinks at like 5 am
>>713479827
actually not a libtard here... legitimate south tard.
the south will rise again, despite whatever you lefters or righters say.... its habbening, and have fun catching a load of buckshot in the ass if you say otherwise :^)
>>713474861
and SJWism. Opinions/ideas I don't agree with? BANNED!
Alt right cucks are literally the opposite side of the same coin as SJWs.
>>713483218
Probably going to be someone who gave him money
>>713483248
because it's more likely this was a move to get lefties to go "Nuh uh burning the flag is totally cool" so others would call attention to Hillary wanting to ban it.
>>713475142
This the man you need to outplay Foreign dictators, not a fragile old woman.
>>713479974
>you don't like america, get out
Funny how Trump's slogan was "Make America Great Again" as if America isn't great right now. If it isn't great, and people agree with that, then they can get the fuck out.
>>713479827
Third in line for the presidency of the CSA was a Jew. You moron. He was even on their money
>>713482628
You would seek to take away your own rights of free speech & maybe there are other things that should be prohibited, like internet sites that have offensive, seditious, & obscene content... Goodbye 4chan... You sir, are a fucking moron.
>>713476903
Right...red scare, McCarthy hearings, widespread spying on American citizens, Korean War, military drafts, legalized (forced) segregation, indoor smoking in public buildings.
>>713483583
>implying I'm a moron because I didn't bother to learn details about losers 100+years ago
>>713483583
Judah P. Benjamin
>>713483693
That's actually what the left is pushing for with their "fake news" agenda.
>>713483583
Daaayyum!
Nice one.
>>713479407
>>deaf with autism
That makes no sense. Stop using medical terms you can barely out on a Band-aid right.
>>713483729
You must suck at trivia. Do you have a twitch account? Going to stream tonnage, you can join on your phone.
>>713484108
Fibbage. Autocorrect
>>713472271
>Drumpf
Not sure why ppl keep using this dumb moniker. Dolan wasnt the one who changed the name. Might as well be poking fun at anyone with a last name.
>>713484108
Believe it or not I'm pretty good at trivia and won a civil war trivia contest in the fifth grade. Had no idea about the jews infiltrating the confederacy.
>>713484265
Infiltrating? The first Jewish senator of the united States was a southerner and became part of the Confederacy when it started. He was part of it from the start. You dumb nazi trash
>>713483808
First of all, they aren't calling for a legal ban on fake news. They want websites - facebook - to block that in their algorithms. Private organizations can ban whatever kind of speech they want in & on their property ie. on their websites. That is not a law banning free speech. It's just a rule by a company banning or limiting propaganda false information & poison for the fucking losers that sit & browse facebook believing everything they see that validates their fucked up world view.
>>713484251
They should add that face to Mt Rushmore
>>713484251
It's to remind everybody that he's from an immigrant family and a hypocrite
>>713484265
I don't believe it. Anyone with a basic level of history education should know that Jews were big in the south. There are many old south synagogues. Remember, Nazis were German not American. Real Americans hate goose stepping fucking Nazis.
>>713472271
He is fucking retarded yes.
But Hillary is a sociopath/psychopath.
So you got aids or cancer.
>>713477682
Jesus fucking Christ, you cannot be this dense.
I'll burn some Americunt flags in your honor, friendo.
>inb4 accused edgy because I'm correct.
>>713484917
But he's also a sociopath that wants to bang his daughter. He's a special kind of bad. He is already using his position to broker business deals.
>>713484899
The nazis were popular in America until Pearl Harbor which was a false flag op, in so far as we left easily attacked boats in a tight cluster hoping the japanese would attack. When we were warned that they might we did nothing.
>>713475037
>giving a shit about your flag
Nationalism is poisonous, anon.
Off yourself.
>>713485243
No, the Japanese did it. We just let them. Also they attacked us over the fact we had been using our boats to stop them from receiving petrol. Did everyone in this thread fail history?
>>713472271
Eat shti you liberalistic piece of shut , hope you die in you die from overdose. Fucking brat fuck. I bet you are A troll pain by Killary. Sad,sad
>>713485411
we didn't just let them, we encouraged them.
we put a bunch of junker boats in tight formation wishing a nigga would while the better boats were in back ready for the proper war.
Before that and a massive propaganda campaign we thought germany wasn't so bad.
ITT: retards being retarded and logical people appearing to be retarded.
>not getting the joke
>falling for the bait
>not realising this was a bill put forward by Clinton and Trump is just trolling the media again
Fuck flag burners. If burning the flag is considered free speech then stabbing someone who burned the flag falls under the same catagory.
>just expressing my right to protest flag burners
>>713472271
He's right, if you don't like this country, leave. Speaking up to your country is one thing, disgracing the flag is another thing. People fought for that flag so that people can have citizenship.
Someone that destroys the american flag IS NOT AMERICAN, just like germans wouldn't do that to their flag, or british or any county.
>>713474606
It's the only way to stop the Republicans. They have gerrymandered the house and Senate. The only way to stop them now is to make the party less popular in rural America. We are talking making life long Republicans and former Dixiecrats renounce their current party in favor of the Democratic party- without outright killing the Republican party.
>>713485682
How is it a troll? Trump can't pull the retarded "B-but Hillary!!!" shit anymore. This fucker is the soon to be president and even joking about taking rights away is fucked up.
Lol you guys realise Trump is performance art right?
>>713485411
lol! Not me.
>>713485243
You're right the Nazi party was fairly popular pre WWII, but that shit all changed when Johnny went ah marching to kill him some Nazis. My grandfather bayonetted Nazis & I wouldn't be here if he got killed doing it. Fuck Nazis & everything they stand for. I sincerely hope you agree. I kinda wish I could go back in time & give ol gramps a hand
>>713485752
Yes murder is the same as burning an inanimate object.
>>713485782
Burning the flag is protected speech. if you don't like it go to North Korea or China.
>>713485818
He woke up at 4AM to shitpost on Twitter, by 9AM CNN were all over calling it illiberal, fascist and foaming at the mouth - without realising it's something Clinton had done 11 years ago. §
>>713482231
>then it's not free speech
No honey, it doesn't matter. The flag doesn't need protection, therefore the act of burning it shouldn't matter one way or another. It IS free speech, it doesn't need protecting because a flag is literally pointless. It's 2016 wtf is a flag for?
>>713485752
Maybe you should try & get a law made, lol
you could run around your neighborhood trying to get your neighbors to sign your petition. You'd be very popular.
>>713485915
As a jew I support this. Also I think we should have nuked Russia right after the war. Fuck the USSR as well. Fascism is fascism. Doesn't matter what you call it.
>>713485927
I prefer they go to North Korea.
>>713485927
>go to North Korea or China.
Maybe you should go there, im sure they will treat you well... or wait.. or are just a big cry baby living with mommy and daddy still? like all the other losers that burn flags?
but seriously you should probably just move out of the country if you don't like it.
>>713486120
Globalist shill detected.
Nationalism is on the rise, deal with it commie.
>>713486076
It wasn't made law though. And so the fuck what. IT WAS 11 YEARS AGO. Hillary lost the election. What the fuck is the point in that tweet? There's no point in the dumb Hillary trolling anymore. And it's a shitty troll since most of his base would actually want it to be illegal to burn the flag.
>>713485927
I'm exercising my right of "symbolic speech" I'm not breaking any laws. I didn't say I'd kill anyone. It's just a stabbing.
>>713474490
It's almost as if it's a terrible party or something
>>713485411
The japanese attack on the US was a diversion tactic to keep America distracted. Germany felt the US was getting closer to joining the war in Europe on account of all the warnings they issued and the aid they were giving to the Allies and thought the US wouldn't be able to fight Japan and Germany at the same time, so Hitler asked Hirohito to attack in exchange for free Russian land after Germany conquered Russia. Japan went with it because they thought they were invincible, and theyd be able to grab land in the process, furthering their plans to expand the Japanese empire.
>>713475142
OH MY FUCKING GOD
I WILL NEVER DOUBT HIM AGAIN
>>713486241
Nope, I'm not the one crying over someone expressing their opinion like a crybaby tumblrina. You know what I do when I see someone expressing an opinion I don't like? I ignore it, I don't try to laws because my fee-fees were hurt.
Seems like you need to leave the country Ivan. Freedom of expression is a thing here.
>>713486328
That's literally assault and possibly attempted murder. Not even close.
>don't burn the flag of the country you live in
what's wrong with that? if you don't like america, then move to iran and burn it as much as you like
>>713485752
More proof that conservatives are soulless monsters who only crave violence
>>713486328
Assault isn't protected. Neither is burning someone else's flag. You have to buy it or be given it. You can't just go burning someone else's property. Outside of that and common sense safety regulations you're free. It's a free country.
>>713486259
What does shill mean? Your alt-right jargon is confusing.
>>713486443
Nope "symbolic speech"
>Trump makes burning flag illegal
>Trump makes negative imaging and use of flag illegal
>Flag is synonamous to the USA and its government
>Trump makes protesting against his government illegal
The flag is a metaphor of this country. Burning the flag is metaphoric for burning this country which is metaphoric treason. Anyone willing to go that far for protest should be protesting America from some 3rd world country after we deport them and revoke their citizenship.
>>713486443
>I don't try to laws because my fee-fees were hurt.
I meant to say I don't try to force laws because my fee-fees were hurt.
>>713472271
PRAISE THE GOD-EMPEROR
BURN THE LIBERAL FILTH
>>713475141
>America
>middle class
ROFL
>>713486555
Then it should warrant metaphoric loss of citizenship or a metaphoric year in the metaphoric jail.
>>713486539
Speech where you hurt someone else isn't speech you retard. No current court would uphold that. I don't understand how you don't understand this. I bet you if an SJW stabbed a street preacher or a Trump supporter on the street you would be crying for that person to go prison. you wouldn't support his "symbolic speech".
>>713486196
Here here, jew friend!
>>713486555
Or you know you could just ignore it. The more you put the flag on the pedestal the more people will burn the flag because it upsets people like you.
>>713486640
I hate trump but this is a fake tweet. You can easily search on twitter itself.
>>713486640
http://www.snopes.com/trumps-flip-flop-on-flag-burning/
>FALSE
>>713486534
Shill: a soulless muppet, a weak willed spineless tool of the globalists. An ineffectual zombie doll whoring themselves out to pure unadulterated evil. A weak person from a bad family so filled with hate and vitriol for red blooded human beings that they seek to destroy the goodness in the world through dishonest means. The imaginary support of the dying establishment. The false citizen who plots your downfall. The traitor who poisons the well. The servant of the devil who seeks to overthrow the will of all human beings who bleed red blood and love their fellow man.
That, is a shill.
>>713480336
The bill clearly states the intent of inciting terrorism but sure, move those goalposts my man. In any case even that would have hopefully been proven unconstitutional. One side doesn't have to be correct on this issue.
>>713484661
It just makes you sound retarded though. It's essentially playground shitty namecalling. It isn't clever or funny, you just make yourself look like an ass and reinforce your oppositions oppinions that you're a hypocrite liberal bully.
>>713486810
And the people on that airplane should have just ignored that Trump supporter for using his first amendment right to praise the god emperor and call hillary supporters the bitches they are. Instead he got a lifetime ban...
