At what point is it OK to cheat on your girlfriend?
We've been together for four years, and our sex life has declined drastically. We are both very busy, but, whenever we do have time, she always has some excuse: either being busy, not feeling well, whatever BS. I'm lucky to have sex twice a month. I'm 30 and she's 28. I've all but given up even trying for the last 6 months.
Now this incredibly attractive girl that I work with has started flirting with me hardcore, and I had to turn her down the other night because I've never cheated on a girlfriend. She's never cheated on a boyfriend, but is in kind of the same situation where her BF has been distant and they never have sex.
I think we're both just looking for sexual release. She told me she hasn't orgasmed in two years.
Pic related. My dick could be in there.
sounds like your gf is already fucking around behind your back
Tell your bitch that your going to start getting pussy twice a week. She gets to pick if it's hers or not.
/micdrop
>>713327334
I have had that suspicion, but haven't seen anything to prove it.
>>713327403
There's a paid service you can use that will spy on her cellphone. texts, calls, emails, photos, any social media. Gotta bring her into line.
>>713327524
and what service is that exactly?
I snoop through her phone a couple of times a month. We live together, so it isn't hard, especially when she passes out drunk. Either she is very good at covering her tracks, or she hasn't actually been up to anything.
Just be a man and break up with her. If sex is this important to you, what makes you think things will be better in the future? If you have given it a serious try to fix your sex life and it hasn't worked, then dump her. Don't be a fucking coward and cheat on her. Do the right thing and go your separate ways, telling her she just isn't meeting your requirements sexually, so you are moving on.
There is never a reason to cheat. Grow some balls and be a fucking man.
>>713326908
Simple answer: Never.
If you're unhappy with something in your relationship then you need to tell your partner about it. That might sound beta as fuck, but if you put aside the "hurr durr alpha" bullshit that most of the 15 year olds on /b/ like to communicate while sitting friendless in their rooms, you'll realize that it's really that fucking easy.
Now, what happens from there is up to the two of you. Perhaps you're just not going to stay together, and that's just fine, too. It'll hurt some, and then it'll get better. You'll fucking live, in other words. Then again, perhaps you'll figure out your issues and realize that this is something you can fix.
Either way, be an honest human being, OP. If all else fails, at least you'll have that going for you. Not a lot of people do these days.
>>713327889
yeah that's kind of why I haven't done it yet.
But a break up would be exceptionally messy right now. We have 5 months more on our lease, and she is about 4 months away from graduating with her Masters. I want to see if things get better once she is finally out of school, but I have a bad feeling it won't. I've kind of made a mental ultimatum that if she continues to not care once she is out of school, then I would dump her.
The last time I expressed my concerns about my needs, she basically told me she didn't care. So I really don't think things will get better. But for the first 3 years, we had sex 3+ times a week.
>>713327889
This
>>713326908
>>713328287
very interesting.
Some of this I do know, but big chunks of it make sense, too.
i knew a couple of those bullets, thx for the other insight
>>713327356
Underrated post
>>713328196
Then in the mean time look for a new place to live, and drop her ass and move out the second the lease ends. Until then, do what you can and don't cheat. You're a man, not a fucking primate. You can last a few more months with shitty sex.
>>713326908
ask her... sounds like she's been getting dicked down on the reg
Agree to have an open relationship, and be honest about it. Then the both of y'all can get whatever poontang is desired without cheating.
All of this is true, but I posted it on here kind of half jokingly, after a few glasses of whiskey.
Kind of terrifies me that /b/ is giving out real advice now. I actually feel like this has helped me. To be honest, I was hoping for a bunch of "just cheat on her" posts so maybe I'd draw on that and care less if I did.
>>713330524
fucking cheat on her pussy
>>713330524
she is sexy as fuck, no one will get hurt, and fucking a new sexy bitch for the first time in years will feel absolutely glorious. like you are having sex again
>>713327356
This
>>713330753
>>713330524
i cheat quite often... happy to answer questions
it's never okay. either break up with her and then fuck the person you want, or renegotiate your monogamy.
>>713326908
dude, no. at what point is it OK to cheat? never.
if you are unhappy with your partner, TRY to fix it, and if that doesn't work, you need to move on because it won't fix itself mate. you need two to tango.
if it all fails then at least you can walk away knowing you actually tried to fix it, as well as walking straight into some sweet new sugar walls. good luck op, new girl is a babe, would appreciate some nudes if it comes to it.
>>713328196
She have a lot of study sessions for school?
Me and my wife have been tighter for about 13 years now. A few years ago she started to act not interested in sex and didn't want to have sex hardly at all. I talked to her about it once or twice and she didn't seem to care about my needs.
So I was like fuck it I'm going to sink this marriage. I cut her off completely, no sex when she decided she wanted it, no cuddling, no hugs or kissing. I wouldn't take her out and do anything with her. Spent most of my time with friends. After about 6 months of that shit I came home one day went to bed and she attacked me and gave me the fucking of my life. Ever since then when I don't even have ask she's always initiating the sex.
>>713327689
Im not him but google the truth spy
>>713330753
just flirting with her at work makes me feel like I'm in high school again.
I usually wear my work key ring on a belt loop with a carabiner, and she kept unclipping it and moving it to the belt buckle on the other side, and grazing my cock on the way. Not fucking her tonight was one of the hardest things I've ever done.
She even made a comment that my dick seemed more anxious than I did, because she could tell it got a little hard. She is so incredibly sexy about things. It annoys me that this girl I've known for 5 months turns me on so much, and then I get home to my GF and she barely says hello to me.
>>713326908
You turned that down? What are, gay?
>>713327356
>This.
Don't pussy out op.
Don't back down if she responds unfavorably at first.
Be confident once, let her see that you are in charge of you. That is all it will take.
>>713331069
she has clinical and work and school a lot. Very rarely does she do projects or anything else with other people. And if she does, it is part of her FB group of friends, all of which are girls that I know. She might be cheating, but she's hiding it well.
>>713331121
hmmm. I suppose it could be possible that this would happen. The last time we did have sex, she initiated it. I have barely tried for the last few months because I always got turned down for whatever reason.
>>713326908
Go for it, life is too short. Just make sure your gf doesn't find out if you are serious about the relationship. And wear a rubber...
>>713331181
It was possibly the most difficult thing I've done. I've been hit on while I was in a relationship before. I've always been able to turn it down. Some of the girls were pretty cute. This one, though, is the most attractive. She could easily be the most attractive girl I've slept with.
>>713331303
what does she do for school? Any dudes in her class?
>>713326908
Go for it Op.. Stuff some guts and bust some nuts.
>>713331756
She's finishing her Master's in Nursing. So... yes, but not many.
>>713328287
>guy posting his life advice on /b/
>that proves he's successful in life and that his advice is valid.
flawless logic.
but seriously, like the guy after that OP said: some of that things are true-ish generally, some are true w.r.t. some women, some are borderline bullshit. I've fucked girls without any gymnastics or without playing; it's usually enough to be at least 7/10 looking, 7/10 smart and 7/10 confident, and to simply get them drunk, high or exhausted (by e.g. many consecutive hours of dancing, sports, talking etc.) at the first occasion, and, if you'll get at least to 1st base, keep up the pace later on. You'll fuck her eventually - the question is not "if", but "is it worth it".
For me, nowadays it just ain't. I prefer a single woman instead out of pure convenience. I've taught her to act *against* her instincts, and to fuck *according* to them. Makes her ditzy enough in the sheets, and spares me most of the maintenance problems. She's a nice girl, so I think she deserves to learn how to *not* be a stupid bitch, instead of being enabled to it.
>>713331920
How does you gf look compared to her? any pics?
Its just comes down to feeling guilty after it all.
>>713326908
>She told me she hasn't orgasmed in two years.
She is being neglected by her bf? Fuck her right in the pussy.
>>713331630
You have needs. She has needs. You each could satisfy those needs for eachother. What is there to think about here? Your gf cares so much about your relationship that she is leaving you sexually starved. Her bf cares just enough to "not be in the mood" for 2 years.
At worst your current gf finds out & her bf finds out. Most people would leave the "cheater" so you would both be single shortly after. Then nobody would be there to make you question what would be right or wrong about it.
>>713331242 >>713332341
>Tl;Dr: Man the fuck up op. If you are going to end up doing something, don't stand around with your dick in your hand waiting for permission, just fucking go for it.
>>713332304
My girlfriend isn't as attractive. I could post a picture, but I'm not going to. When we met, she had some fantastic qualities, and she is cute, but, quite frankly, the girl hitting on me is significantly more attractive.
>>713327356
extremely underrated. I've done it, and, after going through all the drama (and after actually having to fuck other puss for some time), she finally came to her senses and realized that fucking is not a visit to a dentist's. If she's not in the mood, she can fuck without the mood; I don't have to be in the mood either. I don't need to be in a mood for hugging to hug her. IMO that's what partnership is about; you sometimes do things for the other person, either because you care for him/her/it or simply so that he/she/it can repay it in some way later. If you can't do that, it's not a relationship, it's not even a relation.
>>713332543
more pics of any of those girls, or GTFO.
>>713332574
OP here, really one of the things I struggle with. She'll be "too tired" to do anything. I actually really enjoy handjobs. She could jerk me off for 6 minutes and I'd be at least somewhat happy. But then when she can't fall asleep, she wants me to snuggle with her for 20 minutes because it helps her fall asleep.
>>713332961
thanks OP, good to know you're not the usual faggot.
I'd certainly fuck without hesitation BTW, just for the sake of it. Good to have some prime quality memories of manhood so when you're too old to acquire HQ pussy as that without paying $$ for it, you won't feel like your life was a total pile of shit.
Believe me or not, but it's easier for me to live as a happy bastard, than as a sad fail - and it's hard to be happy as a man without knowing you are or at least were able to score high in your life.
>>713332724
it's a man's job to set the boundaries. If you can't, she can blame you for it, because you're the one to blame. If you can neither force her, trick her or convince her to cooperate with you nor leave her nor cheat her, then, with all respect, you deserve to be miserable, and she's right she's not caring about you, because you're not caring about yourself either.
>>713333499
>and she's right she's not caring about you, because you're not caring about yourself either.
kinda hits home. I try to think about myself, but I end up doing whatever crap she wants first.
"I'm horny"
"Well, I need to do this load of laundry and finish a little homework before I can think about that."
**spends 20 minutes on facebook, finally takes care of the other shit she talked about."
"I'm just too tired now."
>>713332724
i was with my ex gf for 6 years. she actually put out, and gave me bj's several times a week, throughout, but eventually when i went out of state for a month for work, she cheated. i had multiple opportunities to sleep with other grills while i was with her, and i regret not taking advantage of those occasions, it sounds like your relationship is unlikely to work out ultimately, so i would fuck the shit out of your coworker, enjoy yourself, and then when you and your gf break up, you won't have missed a good opportunity for nothing, hell your coworker might end up the love of your damn life..
>>713334385
This... never miss chances in life.
>>713334300
She's telling you she wants you to do more of the housework. Help her out and you'll get laid.
>>713334385
So, I haven't said this yet, but I'm actually her manager. Which could create some issues, but I'm not at a corporate place where that's a deal-breaker. Morally, that is a reason I've considered against it, but the other reason was that I was worried it would be more than just sex. I might be falling for her for more than just her looks. That kind of scares me, too.
>>713334545
Basically, you want to fuck her, and came here to get reasons to convince yourself of something you already decided. Just fuck her already!
>>713334512
We did actually have that exact conversation. We had a lot to drink, and she told me that she was really annoyed that I didn't do more around the apartment, and I asked her if she was holding out on sex because of it, and she basically said yes. I'm not opposed to keeping a clean apartment, but she is OCD about some things, to the point where it serves no purpose for me to do it. If I load the dishwasher, she moves everything around so it's to her liking.
>>713334663
I kind of like this answer. I'm really not one to consult social media, but I had a few drinks and was curious what /b/ would say. The "popular vote" of this thread seems to be leaning more towards fucking her now.
>>713327524
don't spend money on this, anon..
try to seduce her all over again, talk to her, you're both adults now, express what you feel, she will do the same. or else dump the bitch
>>713334545
i wouldn't worry about being her manager. if you still want to try and see if things work out with your gf ( by the sounds of it i doubt it ) .. then just keep it discreet with the coworker grill for a few months til your lease and other shit is up.. then time to make an executive decision.
>>713334673
She's trolling you to see how far she can push you. Tell her if she wants the dishes done a specific way she either has to teach you properly or that has become her job from now on. Since she won't do the former, it is now the latter. You are not a child, and she's treating you like one and if she's going to do that, the door is always open for her to GTFO. It's a relationship, you don't need a new mommy.
>>713328192
anon's truth is true truth
>>713326908
>implying women could be humans you should care about
Monogamy is a Meme.
>>713326908
It's always OK, why would you be faithful anyway?
>>713327403
Her sex drive didn't change. Either she's masturbating or getting it from another guy(s). Dump her and watch her find a new guy within a month.
>>713328196
She'll move out, you'll see each other less and less. Will start hanging a lot with a guy who is just a friend.
You guys will get even more distant. And some day she'll just dump you out of the blue.
You will never know she has been sleeping with that guy for 6 months before that.
Been on both sides.
>>713335675
It makes me hurt, but I've felt like if I dumped her, she would end up with one ex in particular. He's a real piece of shit, and I'm really not that jealous of a person.
She was engaged to someone about 6 years ago who ended up being gay. She still spends some time with him, which never bothered me, until our sex life started to fall apart and I kind of wondered if they both were reliving the old days.
>>713335904
lol engaged, hes "gay" .. riiight.. is he married to a dude, have you seen him blowing one? lol.. i'd be pretty fucking skeptical of that BS and wouldn't allow a gf to hang with an ex fiance.
>>713326908
It's never OK to cheat. Just break up with her. Your relationship has been over for a while anyway.
>>713335843
When we very first started "hanging out" we never made things exclusive. This is just more than four years ago. We were sleeping together and had some sort of agreement that we would tell each other if we were sleeping with someone else. I ended up hooking up with an ex. She got really mad about it, and we started to talk about becoming exclusive, but then a couple of weeks after, she hooked up with an ex. It was clearly revenge sex. That was the only time I know she kind of cheated on me.
>>713331303
Whats her name OP?
>>713327689
dude dont listen to these fucks, just go talk to her. say. Tell her that you bumed out of the relationship and need more. Either she is gonna jump on board or she is gonna turn you down at which point you leave and fuck other bitches. dont cheat on her tho its just a dog shit thing to do.
>>713335986
He has come over with a boyfriend. I don't mind hanging out with the guy (no homo). He seems incredibly gay.
>>713336092
this. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Man up and force a decision.
>>713335904
Trust your gut anon.
She's guilt tripping you that you are not trusting her. She's giving you reasons not to trust her.
If you ask me, it's already over. She's just seeing how far she can push you before you break.
>>713326908
Talk to your girlfriend about it. If you don't like where the conversation goes then break up. You'll have to live with the fact that you cheated for the rest of your life if you go through with it.
>>713336067
I'm not going to answer that. There's more than a few of my friends who hang out on here. For all I know, some of her's do, too. I've been nervous to offer pictures of the other girl, but, for whatever reason, I don't want to post anything about my girlfriend
>>713336092
White knight confirmed
fem here
just got done dealing with pretty much this situation, i cheated after our sex life dropped.
in hindsight, it wasnt worth it. in hindsight, i should have just said "look, this isnt working for me and if we can fix our sex life, i want to see other people." those words alone would have been enough to jumpstart shit and put some fear in both our minds as to what COULD happen if we arent meeting eachothers needs.
if youre at the point where youve weighed the options and cheating sounds like a good deal just leave her.
>>713328196
>But a break up would be exceptionally messy right now. We have 5 months more on our lease, and she is about 4 months away from graduating with her Masters.
This is probably why she hasn't broken up with you despite losing that loving feeling.
But don't cheat, it means giving up the moral high ground,
>>713336059
>"We started talking about going exclusive"
>Sleeps with someone immediately
Look back at all the shit you put up with. List them all and imagine she did that in a month not in 4 years.
Would you still be with her?
>>713328196
>The last time I expressed my concerns about my needs, she basically told me she didn't care.
Should have dumped her after that.
>>713328196
Why do you even care about her lol, she doesn't care about you. What a waste of time...
>>713336328
I didn't talk to her for a few days, and she knew why. Then we fucked twice in a day, and then it took another couple of weeks before anything happened.
>>713326908
she should change the manufacturer of her pill.
sometimes "reduction of the libido" is an adverse reaction.
>>713336463
She's manipulating you with sex. She doesn't even enjoy it.
If you're still here OP, here's my advice.
You do what you want, but you do it smart. You want to fuck this chick, do it but cover your ass. I'm married, have been for 3 years, been cheating for all 3 and I've never gotten caught because I'm damn fucking careful.
>>713336410
I'm kind of a romantic. At this point, there is a chance that she is just really busy with things. She works 30 hours a week, has clinical for another 16 hours an then has class for another 20ish.
I guess I kind of wonder if the chance to take care of myself now could actually help me get through a rough patch and see if things get back to normal when she isn't really busy.
>>713328196
You're a moron, I hope this is bait. The only reason she's still with you is because she apparently depends on you to hold her over till she got her masters. You're right now helping her achieve her goals while you get nothing and she's already fucking another guy. And given she was able to straight up tell you that and you took it from her, you deserve it.
>>713336544
could be an option. I know she has changed her birth control in the past.
>>713326908
say straight to your girl friends face what you think, if I understand you correctly:
Tell her the relationship got stale and you want to spice it up again:
You want to have Sex again with your gf, maybe invite her somewhere awesome like a cool restaurant.
Tell her you know that she is unhappy and tell her you will be more active and manly again.
Ignore this bitch at your work place.
You are not a nigger who goes for the next best bitch to fuck.
If your gf is not changing, leave her
>>713336630
I have not looked at it in that exact way. Some different combinations, maybe...
But she dropped out of college previously to spend more time with a shitty bf... she used to tell me about it all the time. Not so much recently, but she could be using me as moral support with plans to move on.
>>713336599
Why do you focus on her? Investing time with any female is just WASTING your time. There's tons of pussy out there and none of these can feel anything but ambition.
No love, no compassion, no kindness, no respect. Every single woman just go for what they really want in life, using only reason and never letting emotions kept them away from their own success.
DO NOT LET THEM CATCH YOU. Just use them as the only thing they're worth for the effort: FUCKING.
>>713336823
Ask yourself. Who is paying for things. Who is keeping her afloat as she finishes of her masters. Who is keeping things running. You said your situation was messy to pull out of but most of that was refering to how it would impact her.
If the answer is mostly you. Then right now you're basically just the person paying for her stuff and enabling her to do the things she wants and she very much doesn't have to give you anything in return. Which means the moment you stop being useful in that regard, she's gone.
Which would mean, nuking the entire situation right now is the way to go. As otherwise she'll basically jump ship once she is done with it and sets fire to it while she's at it too. People going "but that's soooo unfair" would be people who'd advise you to go for some online scam aswell, because not falling for it would be unfair to the scammer. You yourself said she has no interest in sex, she finds various ways to blame everything on you to justify her own behaviour, if she's actually leeching off you she has a good reason to not dump you yet. Find clarification quickly, work this out for yourself soon because otherwise she ends up having fucked you in every way but the one she did someone else and gets to walk away from it laughing after.
>>713337216
Big pieces of how I feel in here. I just still get the feeling that she cares about me. I have been with her for four years. This current girl blatantly wanting to fuck me has been the biggest trial so far.
But it wouldn't be a problem if I was having sex even a couple of times a week. We make about even money, but I do offer my money towards things much more frequently. I do not pay for any of her schooling, but I do pay for nights out, entertainment and booze while she rarely offers to pay for such things
>>713337638
>>713337216
We'll split the cost of nights out occasionally, but more she never covers my end, and, more than not, I pay for her part.
>>713337216
Just simply fucking say I think we should "see other people."
>>713338045
Meant to make that reply to OP
>>713338045
>>713338089
I've come really close to just saying if she can't handle my sexual needs right now, and doesn't care, then we need to break up, or I'll sleep around. This stuff with my coworker has been really recent; only the last 3 days where I knew she wanted to fuck me. So I'm trying to figure out what the fuck I need to do. And I've considered all of these options, but It's still hard to decided on one.
tell her how you feel, you soft willed cunt
you're an adult
>>713326908
It's never OK. You can find excuses for it, at least for a while, but you're not supposed to enjoy cheating like "oh fuck yeah! i fucked other holes and my wife doesn't know! Ain't that awesome!"
The bottom line is that cheating is lying to your partner and lying to yourself. You can do it but don't expect that you will enjoy it after you cum.
Instead of being such a faggot be a man and break up with her then go to a gay bar and get fucked.
>>713338368
Might be the best advice yet >.<
>>713326908
Do it. If you're not getting what you want, it's time to look somewhere else.
Just don't be a dickhead and keep a record of texts or some other stupid trail of breadcrumbs.
>>713338507
In my four years with this girl, I've never deleted a text message until now. I didn't have anything to hide. Now I get 20 texts a day about things the other girl wants to do to me.
>>713338368
Hahaha, kek
>>713326908
HNNNG. That face, those lips.
Cheating feels great at the time but it's nothing but guilt as soon as you bust. Unless you're a heartless cunt that is. Since you're asking for advice in the first place, I'll hazard a guess that you're not.
Sit and talk to her. If she values your relationship she'll take in anything you have to say. You have needs, and I'm sure if things were the other way round you'd be happy to oblige.
Or play the emotional card. Say that every time you get shot down it makes you feel unattractive and unwanted.
I get cranky as fuck if I don't bust a nut every day or so. My Mrs understands this though, and is happy to lend a hand or mouth if she isn't down to fuck. Not that I'd cheat on her if this wasn't the case, but you catch my drift.
Just fuck the hottie. Men aren't wired to have one partner. The only way one woman relationships work is either if she puts out regularly or youre a testosterone deficient beta fag. I've been happily married for 15 years but my wife stopped servicing me years ago. I've had truckloads of sex with hot bitches in the meantime though. The Asian countries do it right with the Wife and the concubines.
>>713328196
Break up with her, or cheat on her. At this point is doesn't really matter. Don't be fooled by bullshit neo-chivalry. You should take what you want, and dishonesty shouldn't stop you. It's how things are done successfully.
Put yourself first anon, put yourself first until you are absolutely certain that you've met someone that will do the same.
>>713338739
>Just fuck the hottie. Men aren't wired to have one partner
I notice that pieces of shit always make this excuse. It simply isn't true. We've had marriage for centuries and it's benefited society immensely. You're fucking delusional if you don't think humans are monogamous.
>>713338247
Well then you gotta do some introspection. Do you want this to continue? In life we have opportunities, and they come and go, and when they go, they go. She's made her choice, from what you're telling me. She's not pulling her weight in the relationship OP. That's her choice.
To me it sounds like she's lost the passion for the relationship. It happens, and I'm sure you already know this, but her freeing up her schedule ie. getting her masters, ect. isn't gonna change that. I'll tell you this much. You have to make a choice OP. You have to take the initiative. It might sound like a drag, but it'll be better for the both of you. You have to talk this out with her, and it has to be a serious talk on where you two stand on this relationship and where you both see it going. If she can't even do that, then break up with her. Or tell her "I think we should see other people."
>>713338678
Lol ty but seriously fucking guy " but I love her".... Bullshit you love the idea of her don't be a fucking prick and just end it
post more pics of the chick
>>713339015
"Lost the passion" that's his fucking fault if he could please her she wouldn't be disinterested and he wouldn't be a faggot thinking about cheating on her. Break up with her and then go to a truck stop climb in one with a rough truck named Jim and let him show you how it's done
>>713339015
And when I mean opportunities, I mean fuck the hottie that's mad flirtin with you.
>>713339168
This is legit what some people think. Huh...
>>713339168
Go back to your basement and fuck your bodypillows.
Op, whatever you do don't cheat on your girl with that new girl. She a Ho!! Touching her managers Dick at work, pls.
She'll do that behind your back in 3 years.
By all means bang her if your single but don't base your current decisions off that shit bro.
Relationships go up and down, maybe your just not hitting your current girl hard enough (as in with back hand not Dick) I jest of course
>>713339254
he's in the same boat he's lost interest the sex is bland get creative relationships take work
>>713339288
I well but not because you told me to I was gonna do it anyways
Cheat as much as u went bro. Please bang as much dirty pussy as you can. Get as many biatches to rim your ass as is possible. When the inevitable comes and your gf finds out about your debauchery then admit to her that an anon on 4chan told u to do it. CASE CLOSED
>>713339430
OP here. You got any good body pillows to share?
>>713339493
Yea what do you want I've got one with some Asian cartoons or a fuzzy one which is my personal favorite
>>713328192
Na this is where you're wrong
I've been in a happy relationship for 8 years and I have cheated on the missus more times than I can count.
There is no emotional connection to it, It's just so I can have my cake and eat it, also it helps me unwind and not make me consider leaving her for another person.
To me sex is like playing a game of pool, you need someone to play with and it's good fun
>>713339493
They're all used and have accumulated many dry stains of cum from years of lonliness. The fabric is so starch they'd probably chafe your dick.
>>713326908
Hey, life only happens once. Get down and dirty with the hottie. She might just dump her bf to pursue a relationship with you. Then you can get rid of your frigid bitch and get straight in with another chick.
INb4 sorry excuse for a man: Women think the exact same way. That's why she's riding some other dick while you're crying and trying to figure out where you went wrong after she dumps you.
>>713326908
whos the girl in the picture?
>>713339666
Naw my mom washes then once a week
>>713339753
Hey, as long as you practice good hygiene.
>>713339606
you can play pool by yourself, and you can get yourself off. personally, i'd break up if a bitch wasn't making me happy in a relationship, but i can understand cheating in the meantime if there's complications to the circumstances like in op's situation, with lease, etc.. but a grill has to have been a real piece of shit to deserve it, or for me not to be guilty about it.. i do have honor / principles, but if a bitch has lied constantly, cheated, etc then she gets no quarter
>>713326908
Need to talk to your gf man, intimacy is pivotal to most peoples relationships - time to work out just how important to you.
With a brakeup or unhappy talk I've just found out one thing the hard way:
If she's starting to get fussy and withdrawn get in her face and take no bullets. I was about to tell mine off but felt bad for her and went like "let's fix this I'm not perfect either". Fast forward she dumped me over a text with pretty much all the stuff I've said.
Cut the bitch no slack
>>713336104
This! Never underestimate communication. Your sex will get better than what it ever was, both if you get your gf to realize this problem or if you start fucking the other chick. It's like the /b/ro who said "gettin pussy twice a week" but softer. Maybe your wife is passing through the same as you or she hasn't realized that your needs requite fullfiling
>>713335440
Agreeing more and more with this the more I've grown my understanding of women over the years and many relationships.
Break up with her nigga cause guarantee if she did the same to you, you'd cry like a bitch
>>713340027
That did not end how i expected.
I plan on giving the girlfriend a couple more days. I work with girl in OP again on Tuesday. It will be insanely hard not to fuck her at that point
>>713326908
at whatever point you want to.
>>713336250
i want to believe you so much
>>713326908
i've been dating a girl for nearly a year after we started in a situation similar to yours. We slept together during the tail end of her relationship, which in hindsight she regretted completely and has somewhat affected our relationship. Talk to her, clear your conscious and have some well deserved sex, you'll thank yourself later.
>>713328287
is this really legit? quite eye opening
>>713340208
Godspeed you anon and send us pics ojce you've done
It's never okay.
>>713339677
Life only happens once but so does aids he's probably got it now and doesn't know it
>>713339907
Yeah but that's the thing I'm not in an unhappy relationship I'm just a sex addict she can't feed my labido
>>713340679
Twice a month, not sex addiction dude, I'm in a 16 year relationship and I get sex 3 times a week because I made it clear a long time ago that was going to be part of our relationship, take it or leave it.
>>713339339
This, this girls got some seriously questionable values. Touching your dicks pretty fucking hectic for someone in a relationship simply because she's not being satisfied by her boyfriend. Tread REALY carefully.
>>713338339
but honesty is dead apparently
>>713340756
Seconded. Don't expect a relationship with work hottie if you start fucking. At least not one where you're not being played.
>>713336250
Why don't most people suggest this idea?
>>713326908
In a similar position to you my friend. My girlfriend and I used to have sex almost daily, on a good week it would often be like twice a day. However over the last 2-3 months we've only done it a handful of times. She always makes excuse not too as well. And because of my nagging about it she will always say 'it'll happen tonight' but will always come up with some stupid reason for it not to happen. I feel your pain.
>>713340679
Lol sex addict.... A real addict has to have sex no matter what it's something fucked up in their brain that compelled them to Fuck all the time regardless of where they are. You're just an asshole who came to 4 Chan looking for people to say it's ok for you to be a piece of shit to another person
>>713334673
Be wary of ardent dishwasher rearrangers.
Seriously.
I've been around both men and women that do this and they all had signs of major OCD elsewhere in their life. I occasionally rearrange dishes only because my wife has little concept that water must flow over the dish for the cleaning. And, only when I am doing the dishes. Because dishes and shit are the drudgery work of life and no rational being should feel compelled to correct someone else's drudgery.
>>713341065
Says the virgin
>>713341977
Virgin or not I'm man enough to admit when I'm being shitty and have the courtesy to not Fuck around and play with someone's feelings
Its always ok. Women are bitches and as long as you get away with it, no one cares
>>713335324
I doubt there is any plan behind any of it. She's just fucking OCD and doing what feels right to her.
That being said, you are spot on.
The OCD guy I was renting a room from, if I had to do it over again I would have made arrangements to live elsewhere and proceeded to fuck around with his young teenage daughter. At the time I thought she was way too young for the amount of sexual tension in the room. Looking back at it, that girl knew exactly what she was up to. This fucker couldn't be bothered to deal with his OCD to have a loving relationship with his daughter.
>>713342372
not playing with anyones feelings at all literally just fuck someone not writing a sonnet to them am i?
No one gets hurt I get you bust my nut everyone wins
>>713326908
>At what point is it OK to cheat on your girlfriend?
that question man... no sjw but ur a dick in so many ways
>>713326908
Don't listen to any of these pussies that it is not ok to cheat.
Sex is essential part of any relationship and it will not work if your significant other is not giving you the pussy/dick.
Talk to her first that your sexual needs do not meet and if she is not willing to put out more then you are going to get it from somewhere else.
then one of the three following scenarios are going to become your reality. it doesn't matter what happens but your problems are solved.
>she sees that she hasn't been giving you enough sex and changes that
>she doesn't want more sex but now you have her consent to dip your dick to other pussies
>she doesn't want to give you more sex or her consent to go get it somewhere else and then you leave her and go to fuck your coworker
this goes for the both sexes out there
>>713336250
Why do you think it's okay to announce yourself as a fem and not show tits? Where do you think you are?
Also, OP your girlfriend is playing mind games with you. I'd bet if you guys smoked a blunt together and laughed together and made each other some food and just stopped thinking about all the bullshit, fuck being "busy" nobody's too busy for 20-60 minutes of good sex. OP if you think you love each other then you tell her that you want things to be like before. Cheating isn't worth it, if you really think that this chick you work for is worth it then dump your gf. You will thank yourself later.
OP it boils down to your own drive. Laugh a little with your gf, grab her and make out with her like you're a kid in high school again, that's probably what she wants anyway, for you to kiss her like you used to.
>>713336092
this
>>713336250
no one cares about your gender less you gonna post tits.
but you're right anon.
>At what point is it OK to cheat on your girlfriend?
I've not read this thread cos it's so fucking long.
My answer, though is, it's OK to cheat when you absolutely don't give a fuck about her anymore. You don't care about the relationship and you don't care about her feelings.
It's a dick move. And getting caught, then realising that you still love your her and want to be with her is just fucking stupid.
You should dump her before you start anything else. But if you absolutely don't give a fuck about her, to the point that you stay with her for convenience, then do it.
If you get caught, the whole thing ends, but you don't give a fuck anyway.
>>713335109
>>713335109
She got that crazy look going on
since when did all the moral white knight fags get to /b/?
hes asking this question on /b/ he don
t want all of your moral answers.
@Op spread your seamen everywhere you can. Burrow your micro in to your co-workers ass and spray that trampstamp and give us pic to prove you have archive climax in your life.
I'm gonna tel you something the Disney, romantic comedy, sappy types don't want you to know: sex is an integral part of a relationship. You are allowed to expect it. You are allowed to demand it and move on when you don't get it.
Do you honestly think the average self centered cunt would put up with anything less than the exact amount of sex she wants? No. she'd either cheat, give an ultimatum, leave your ass, or all 3.
So talk to her. Tell her you are not happy with your sex lives. Tell her it's getting hard to keep at the relationship at this rate. Just letting you know now she will probably call you names and claim you only want sex. Stay strong and calm and don't get into a screaming match. The seriousness and maturity will go a long way to express the gravity of the situation and curb the bullshit she will inevitably try to spew.
>>713326908
>The moment they stop worshipping your cock
>The moment they change for the worse, especially if you're still the same
>They are not into the same kinks you are (finding another who is allows an outlet for said thing whilst allowing the rest of your main relationship to continue.)
>>713327356
This
But be prepared that you might end up with no gf and no sidepiece.
>>713332298
>For me, nowadays it just ain't. I prefer a single woman instead out of pure convenience. I've taught her to act *against* her instincts, and to fuck *according* to them. Makes her ditzy enough in the sheets, and spares me most of the maintenance problems. She's a nice girl, so I think she deserves to learn how to *not* be a stupid bitch, instead of being enabled to it.
This.
>>713326908
Why cheat if you can dump the btch and live the rest of your life like an awesome bachelor? You don't really want to marry this girl do you, have kids with her and become a boring douche life your older friends? Fuck that shit. Listen to your gut feeling, get rid of the LTR and go out there and have a lot of sex with different people. Sure you might feel empty but at least you won't feel lonely in your own house/family. Settling is for losers who have no other options.
>>713326908
I've just hit four years in my relationship as well. Things are slowing down in the bedroom and I can see what is so tempting about your coworker.
Hope your figure it out bro.
>>713326908
i she's not getting it from you, she's getting it from somewhere.
>>713326908
Go for it. If she's a awsome, dump you're GF. You're not married and hopefully you don't have kids.
You owe it to yourself to pursue happiness
