So a girl I know is house sitting, she invited me and 2 other guys over. She has like 4 of her friends over. Me and the girl don't get along very well. After snooping a bit I find 2000 dollars in a wallet. I take it. Most likely when they find out its gone me and my friends are suspects number 1. My friends don't know I have it. I need money so bad right now.
Is this the right thing to do or should I put it back? Pic not related
Btw the wallet is the house owners not the girl who is house sitting. So no one will know until they get back
Put it back. Don't ruin friends' friendships over your problems.
>>712960371
Imagine you in that situation.
You have money to finally pay off something, a debt maybe.
Or maybe you saved this money for something nice for someone, or yourself.
Then you come to find it has been stolen.
How would that make you feel?
We all need money right now. But taking from others, is not the answer.
>>712960483
Oh I forgot to mention the people who own the house are really fucking rich
>>712960483
jesus christ, this. responsible dad answer of the year.
Take the whole wallet, not just the cash. Wipe your fingerprints from the wallet and then drop it in front of a police station. In a few days time, they will get their wallet back, minus the cash, and just think they must've brought it with them and dropped/lost it.
>>712960555
Thanks, but I'm not a father. Haha.
But anyway, if you read these OP. Just out yourself in their shoes. You know its not right. It doesn't matter how they've come into money. Its just not yours. Plain and simple.
No such thing as right or wrong. Things just are. One person thinks steal is wrong, the other thinks they are just trying to feed their family.
>>712960692
This. Closest road to true neutrality is always best.
But sadly in this world, it can't work that way. Things are right and wrong however, because we have rules and morality in place to protect us.
Golden rule treat others the way you want to be treated. Would you want someone to steal 2000 from you if you had it?
On the flip side. The golden rule can work both ways. If you break into a house and lay naked on some chicks beds when she gets home, you could say I'm just I'm just doing onto you what I wish you'd do to me.
So I guess who knows. Keep it or don't, people will move on eventually.
>>712960887
I just need a place to lI've. I know these people don't need the money. I'm a good guy and so I feel bad about it. I don't know what to do
>>712960783
Exactly, although those rules and moralities are extremely subjective. They have changed quite a bit over time and til this day they are different between countries, cultures, and traditions.
>>712960371
take it and tell nobody. If you tell someone they always will snitch. After that steal something even better.
>>712961004
Dude just take the money.
In this life it's either you or them. Do what you can to succeed in any way and only care about your family and people who have proven their loyalty to you.
id take the lot, but if your not ok with that but still need money, just take a few hundred.
>>712960555
fucking fag
>>712960612
dis gud
>>712960483
/thread
It was a sting
>>712960555
Trips decide all others answers become null. Go return the money anon.
>>712960371
Serious don't be a fucking pussy , I've stolen alot of things . you just have to pick and chose and chance it. but I know for a fact you will get away with this one . don't be so paranoid.
>>712961424
not op
>>712960371
keep it
Lifes bitch and you are here on your own, take it, try to frame one of your friends later
Somebody being rich doesn't make it okay to steal from them. Give the money back
>>712961585
Don't listen to this faggot
>>712961549
>>712961318
I think I need to do this. I need to survive. I feel sorry about it though and I believe in karma, but I need help and no one is helping me on this planet right now
>>712960525
>low intelligence detected.
If they find out. It's enough to be a felony
>>712961731
>No one is helping
no body is going to help you the sooner you get that through your brain the better. or else you will he on your knees sucking dick for money. M>>712961731
an the fuck up.
>>712960371
Give her $100 of it to blow you. You wont feel as bad for taking the rest.
>>712961824
could just kill them
dont be a pussy, money over hoes. be a real G
>>712960371
2000 is quite a bit and they'd have to be morons not to figure put the you stole. It sounds like you've got enough trouble and taking that cash would just put you in an even shittier position.
Don't do it matt
OP you really feel torn by these two options so... coin flip, only once.
Many choices have been made in life by coin flips, wether it were humans that flipped the coin or nature.
Some people call it luck, others probability. I call it nature. You have a part in the result, such as the moment you throw the coin, when you catch it and wether you flip it in the end.
BUT
Your lack of enough intelligence to count the exact spins and what the result will be is nature. The air molecules and the smallesy wind blow is nature.
The cuts in your skin, your subconscious changing your tiniest hand movements - that's nature
Nature deciding the coin flip, wether you keep the money or not.
It's not natures' will nor "fate" but mere probability. And if you get to keep the money you can't dodge responsibility and say "nature did it" because you had the impact on the result anyway didn't you? But what is reaponsibility at all? Or morality? Right and wrong?
Let nature do its' thing, and flip that coin. Only once, for one final decision
>>712960525
What are you a nigger?
>>712960483
yeah imagine you
>leave your house
>leave someone to house sit
>be stupid enough to leave $2000 in a wallet
protip: there's a camera watching that wallet
>>712960483
>capitalism
Wow this whole thread is full of thieving niggers.
Put the money back.
>>712962041
Greatest theif in the world is a white man.
>>712962057
>being this autistic
>>712960525
>art's major bernie supporter-tier logic
get a fucking loan m8
>>712960612
most cop stations I know of have cameras. good luck with that
>>712960371
Just ruined Christmas for a family... Congratulations!
Having honor is a real thing- if you don't know why stealing is wrong, then you're a nigger. When you do something like this, other innocent people are regarded with unwarranted suspicion. How about you learn to deal with life like a real man instead of being a niggerfaggotpussyloserthief? Faggot.
Update, I left with the money
>>712962057
This.
Enjoy jail time for a felony.
>>712962092
Niggers just steal money. We steal whole lands lol. We can't really tell them to do anything.
dont take it, regret that. take it and regret that u took it, but second option u will regret with money.
OP are you black? I'm assuming so since you took the money in the first place. Don't worry about putting it back, your nigger lizard-brain won't permit such an action. Go buy your rims.
>>712962187
Pretty sure the british empire was predominantly white and they stole a whole lot of shit lol. Are they whitetrashfaggotpussyloserthieves? Logic.
>>712962348
>thinks black people are on 4chan.
Kys. You make the rest us look bad.
>>712960612
Put it in a mail drop box whips finger prints. This all varies about your morals op
>>712962187
2000 dollars isn't a lot of money, and they were stupid for leaving it there like that.
He should take it to teach them a lesson.
>>712962220
Jail gives you a place to stay. Op said he did need one
You lot act as if the chap took millions. It was 2k, that's a paycheck at most. Chill the fuck out.
>>712962035
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWToW9ZNOpo
>>712962361
Wrong- the British Empire was ALL white and simply went about the business of introducing 1st world conditions to a fuckload of unwashed heathens. Hey, somebody had to do it, man. Anyways, this thieving faggot just fucked over a bunch of friends. I hope he gets caught and does time for FELONY theft. I can virtually guarantee the act was caught on camera.
>>712960371
>steal from people who have the means, and now the motive, to ruin your life
seems legit, OP. they have any more shit you can grab while you're on their home surveillance cameras?
>>712962740
Negative. The british empire had other races contracted it. They had natives govern their conquest. They were predominantly white however. Our nigger friend here was just introducing 1st condition on a family of unwitting tards who leave money laying around. Somebody has to teach them to be more secure with their belongings. I hope it was caught on camera so they can watch the fruits of their autistic nature in glorious HD.
OP, just give the money back. Don't listen to the amoral nihilistic freaks here, have a conscience.
How about you only take 1000? That way you get money and they think they misplaced the other grand.?
>alternative : go big or go home. You'll be a piece of shit or a loser
>>712962717
I don't care if it was $5.
It wasn't his. Only niggers think they have the right to something they didn't earn.
>>712960371
>Is this the right thing to do
Did you skip the first 8 or so years of your life anon?
>>712963030
oh stfu, at the end of the day people bleed for that money
>>712963149
What the fuck does that mean?
>>712960371
>I need money to buy pot so I took it from someone who actually earned it
>is this the right thing to do?
Jee, I wonder.
>>712962156
more like the average shilldog, entitled and corrupt.
>>712963120
You should have paid attention in your history classes. Most societies were built on people think thinking they had the right to something they didn't own or earn. Here's a hint, it was us white people ha! Niggers are just taking our lead.
>>712960525
>people I robbed are really rich
>I don't think they can afford security cameras though
>>712960371
Take. That. Shet.
>>712963246
No such thing as honest money. It's all corrupt, so stealing if not caught is not a crime.
>>712963149
Seriously, what the fuck do you mean "people bleed for that money"?
>>712963258
If they earned it, they'd be smart enough to not keep $2000 cash in a wallet on the kitchen counter with strangers watching their home.
>>712962158
Are you retarded
>>712963455
>so stealing if not caught is not a crime.
>>712960371
>Is this the right thing to do or should I put it back?
gee, I wonder - is stealing 2000 dollars the right thing to do?
I liked /b/ better back in the day, when it had the interesting kind of scum. Now it just has the normal kind of scum
>>712963378
>I don't think they can afford security cameras though
Doesn't matter. They won't be able to ID him if he has no record.
>>712962717
2k is a lot to most people. Especially when you worked for it.
Also principles
>>712963455
What you meant to say was "stealing from people who are better at making money than me if not caught is not a crime".
>>712963542
the idea of property or possessions is an illusion. we all have equal rights to the resources of this earth - to the victor goes the spoils.
>>712963507
>earning money
>smart
When have those two been linked in any way?
Either way, op's going to get the shit end of the law soon.
>>712963455
Also that's retarded to say there's no honest money, as if nobody earns their living. Fuck socialism
>>712963696
>>712963599
>won't be able to ID him
>Implying the chick who invited him over doesn't know who he is
>>712963674
stealing = making money
so he's making the money quicker and easier than they did.
Just don't put it in the bank
>>712963696
So if somebody stole everything you had and left no evidence of his identity you'd say "huh, guess he deserves all my shit". Pussy.
>>712963753
ad hominem = lack of argument
you do realize that borders are imaginary lines right? that money is pieces of paper printed in a room?
>>712963942
You think I'm going to bother to argue with that shit?
>>712960371
Ultimately you will make the decision you want to regardless of what we say but you should seriously put it back. This could turn into one of those moments you look back on in your life and wish you hadn't fucked up(most likely won't get away with it). Hindsight is 20/20 anon. Try using a little bit of foresight
>>712963900
i would say "touche" for he would have to be smart enough to hack into my checking accounts, savings, trusts, Roth IRA and other assets.
I could then easily report it to my bank and insurance to recover damages.
>>712960371
Put the money back, play with their sex toys and bust a nut onto whatever surface or object feels right to you, and leave a better man.
>>712963749
there's no honest money. all business is based on psychological manipulation, aka scams.
humans were meant to live in the wild and gather food/resources themselves. this system is corrupt at its core, so you beat them to the punch.
>>712963799
"stealing= making money" Stop holding it against rich people that they know how to create wealth. They don't "steal" they either work their ass off to build their wealth or they inherit the money, which is fine because the person who made the money deserves to spend it how they wish and that includes giving it to their family. We need entrepreneurial types to have a successful country, otherwise we'd be a shithole like Cuba
>>712963942
Money is mostly digital now.
And borders are not imaginary, many borders follow natural features such as rivers, mountains and coast, as well as social features such as language, customs and traditions.
If borders didn't have some importance then the middle east with it's straight lines wouldn't be such a clusterfuck.
Daily reminder: a country with straight lined borders is a weak country.
>>712964272
lol "We should live like a bunch of mindless animals worshiping sticks in the forest" as you sit there on your computer enjoying abundance of food the longevity that medicine brings and therest of the fruits of a capitalist society. Grow the fuck up
>>712960371
Sounds like your the broke fag of the group, Gee wonder who took the cash? Now your broke and just committed a major theft
>>712964528
>"We should live like a bunch of mindless animals worshiping sticks in the forest" as you sit there on your computer enjoying abundance of food the longevity that medicine brings and therest of the fruits of a capitalist society. Grow the fuck up
Just sayin'. There's no moral highground - stealing without being caught is a more straightforward way of making money than manipulating gullible idiots to buy shit. Neither is good, but one makes the other legitimate.
>>712963353
Your autism is showing.
>>712964357
all borders and countries are artificial human inventions to attempt control over something we don't control - the earth.
languages all came from one root language in the beginning, and what makes a language and what a dialect is relative.
Yes now money is just numbers in a computer, it's no more real than a video game, only that there's a system that recognizes its authority. When that recognition ends, in case of an upheaval, natural disaster or apocalypse, that money becomes what it really was the whole time, just numbers on a screen.
>>712964873
How is selling people things that they want to buy tricking them? Don't be so condescending. That is asinine to compare selling people things that they WANT to stealing things from people.
>>712964873
>>712965154
>>712965168
Niggers are unable to tell the difference.
You are wasting your time.
>>712965168
the role of advertising is to make people "realize" what they want.
But the whole time that's what they "wanted", yeah sure.
No tangible object can fulfill what humans really want. But a good salesman will convince you otherwise.
Tbh fam that's what these people get for letting this whore look after their house and trusting her with it
You don't ever entrust your home to someone who will bring strangers over that's just fucking retarded
My advice to you is get some rubbing alcohol and wipe the wallet clean so your prints aren't on it and they can't just use a home fingerprint test
Bitch deserved to lose her fucking job
I don't like stealing buy at the same time sometimes it needs to be done to get pieces of shit their commupance
>>712965498
Yeah and not putting their fucking cash in a safe.
>>712960371
If it was like 20 then yeah fuck it.
But 2000 is an amount people are gonna get pissed over, no matter how rich they are.
>>712963120
This is different you faggot
If you are stupid enough to entrust your place and all of your possessions to someone who clearly doesn't understand that they were not given permission to invite people over and that youre stupid enough to just leave $2k laying around instead of secured you deserve it
This is how life works
Play stupid games
Win stupid prizes
Op is a faggot, thief, and nigger but the owners and the girl involved deserve it for their stupidity
>>712960371
>Is this the right thing to do
No.
Do I care?
No. I am just a fat dickless faggot on the internet.
>>712960371
>Me and the girl don't get along very well.
then why did she invite you over you lying shitsack?
>>712965428
Convincing somebody to buy something and breaking into somebody's house and stealing are NOT the same thing, bottom line. If your conscience tells you different then you are deranged.
>>712965695
The owners obviously had some reason to trust the person watching the house. Apparently that trust was misguided.
Regardless, trusting the wrong person does not mean that every nigger that comes by has the right to your shit.
Stop blaming the victims here nigger.
>>712965154
Borders are not invented, they are discovered and modified. Like finding a bit of clay and shaping it into a dick. You didn't invent clay, you discovered it and shaped it into a dick. People claimed an area of land, and shaped it based on natural features, using nature to define the border. Then through diplomacy and war, the borders where reshaped once again based on ambition and material needs. Borders represent thousands of years of human struggle and success, they are more than just 'imaginary'.
I don't see what your point is, just because something is relative doesn't mean it has no value or importance, or usefulness.
>>712965762
It depends on the way you like it.
Rough, or gentle at first and then bondage with paddles. In the end you're still getting fucked
>>712965968
People did not shape mountains or rivers you fucking moron.
There was a reason the Native Americans were so quickly genocided - they had no concept of land ownership.
>>712965851
>Le victim blaming meme
You don't entrust your shit to somebody who isn't trustworthy
This whore is bringing people over to their home instead of doing her fucking job
Their judgement was misplaced and it's their own god damn fault no matter how you look at it
You're still forgetting the part where these people left their wallet at home, who fucking does that? Especially when it has plenty of money in it?
Niggers have their uses in society and helping you discover who you can trust and who you can't is definitely one of them
This isn't a party where tons of people were invited this is house sitting where you pay someone/ask them to look after your place for you
If they didn't tell her to not invite people over because it's their god damn house not hers they are even more so deserving of being robbed
>>712961004
In reality it is the stupid girls faulth for inviting lowlife garbage like you over
>>712960371/
What if she gets blamed for it, are you okay with that? Maybe she doesn't want them to know she had people over so she can't admit that part and will have to say she has no idea where the money went which makes her the suspect.
Don't be a piece of shit, dude, just because "no one is helping you in this world" or whatever you mentioned doesn't mean you get the right to fuck someone else over. Get a job and earn money like the rest of us fucks trying to get by.
>>712966166
No it's because they were jungleniggers
Because their ancestors were wiped out from disease in the late 1200's America was an empire with no less than 1 million people loving in it with borders, states, leaders, etc.
They had plenty concept of birders and land ownership, they died out and their retarded leftovers couldn't develop past muh tribe of 100
They were retarded just like you
You don't like borders? Move to Russia or the Russian federation and enjoy what it's like to have #noborders
Either way get the fuck off my clay you don't deserve to be here
>>712966060
As if material possessions bring you that much pain. I agree that they can't fulfill us in every aspect, but having a salesman convince you to buy a stand mixer is not as bad as somebody stealing $2000 out of your house. And it's not like every single act of commerce ends in happy merchant rubbing his hands together and the buyer being destitute and miserable
>>712965498
What gives you the right to call some people who left money at home and trusted that home in someone who is presumably a friend pieces of shit? That kinda makes you a piece of shit, actually
>>712960371
if she doesnt like u, why did she invite u?
fake thread
>>712966562
>That kinda makes you a piece of shit, actually
He is here on /b/ with us, goes without saying
>you think the OP is idiotic...
>then you read the thread
>>712965968
People did and have shaped mountains and rivers. Alaxander the Great built a fucking causeway to attach an island to the continent just so he could conquer Tyre, and massacre them.
What is Suez canal?
What is 3 gorges dam? - At its construction the dam held back so much water that it slowed down the length of a day.
Also you misunderstood my point. Borders are based on natural features, I'm not saying the people built the rivers and mountains, i'm saying that they used them to define where their borders were. Then through war and diplomacy they moved their borders around (being modified like shaping clay).
My point still stands that borders represent more that just a baseless claim.
>>712966475
90% of shit consumers buy is useless shit or was a total ripoff.
Please explain why someone would pay 10s of thousands of dollars for a diamond ring, why would someone pay thousands for a Kanye west sweatshirt, or why would someone need a new cellphone every year when it wasn't broken to begin with.
Even milk and groceries are a scam. People are selling you something you could have FOR FREE if you had a cow. And they sell it to you marked-up with growth hormones and all types of shit.
It's a racket, plain and simple.
>>712966871
>My point still stands that borders represent more that just a baseless claim.
Borders change constantly, so that refutes your point automatically.
>>712966992
>People are selling you something you could have FOR FREE if you had a cow
Clearly you've never kept animals
Look op, stop this retarded logic.
Did you steal? Yes? Than you're not a good guy, and never in the right. Don't be a pussy ass faggot and try to justify it. Don't try to think your still morally in the clear.
Just fucking own your scum. Simple. You are not in the right, no matter how you try to spin it. Don't insult us further. All I'm seeing is you making excuse after excuse trying to explain it as not that bad.
Pussy ass faggot.
>>712967125
The fact they're contested actually reinforce his claim
you know its wrong, do you need someone to tell you its ok? be a fucking man and at least stand up for your own wrong doings.
fucking filthy stealing cunt nigger. i hate you shits. i hope you get aids and cancer and die painfully.
>>712963312
Are we still talking about Bernie here?
>>712966192
All I see are excuses. Know who tries to prove they arn't wrong? Children.
I've stolen. I never tried to excuse it, I've no disillusion of my morality. It's all on him, unless you can somehow prove he was being mind controlled and had no free will.
>>712967264
if they were natural they wouldn't be able to change so easily. Look at Prussia, where's that "country" today? doesn't exist. Look at the Hittite empire, they had borders - where are they? no more. the geography didn't change, they did.
>>712966992
Why would somebody buy a Kanye West sweatshirt? Because they want to, and it's their right to spend their money however they wish. "milk and groceries are a scam" No, people are WILLING to pay for the convenience of not having to milk a cow or grow a garden and they have every right to. And also even if commerce was as evil as you believe, it's not, but if it was, that wouldn't justify you being a thief and taking money out of people's wallets
>>712967442
>the geography didn't change, they did.
>>712967456
>Why would somebody buy a Kanye West sweatshirt?
The same reason anyone buys anything - advertising, or in plain english - Brainwashing.
>>712966406
Agreed.
Borders are needed in this country.
We don't want to be Europe.
>>712960371
Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and (s)he cries out to be relieved.
Ave Satanas Hail Satan
>>712960371
lol, you gonna go down. odds are it was a test and a camera was probably hidden and pointed right at the wallet. I'm a rich as fuck fag and i still don't just accidentally leave $2,000 in cash around with out knowing exactly what I'm doing.
>>712967219
Shh.. he doesn't know Cows need to be taken care of. It's a nice meme.
>>712967456
>it's not, but if it was, that wouldn't justify you being a thief and taking money out of people's wallets
it is, and when you dig deeper you will see that most of the problems in today's society and psyche stem from it. I never said being a thief is better, both are equally justifiable. In the middle ages both were equally commendable - today we are more controlled, and so structured thievery (sales) is preferred over chaotic thievery (theft).
>>712961004
>underage fag living at parents detected
Seriously just kill yourself i hope there's cameras in that house
>>712967888
> I never said being a thief is better, both are equally justifiable. In the middle ages both were equally commendable
You attempting a record for the most wrong shit written in a single thread?
>>712967584
>Agreed.
>Borders are needed in this country.
>We don't want to be Europe.
Without Europe what would America be - a collection of Mesoamerican tribes worshipping totems.
An american citizen is causing all of Europes immigration problems - George Soros.
>>712967772
best case scenario for op is that when they call the girl out and she tells exactly who was over and the cops come to detain and then question everyone they will charge you all with unlawful tresspass and theft.
>>712967442
Prussia: Prussia (German: Preußen, Lithuanian: Prūsija, Polish: Prusy) is a historical region stretching from Gdańsk Bay to the end of Curonian Spit on the southeastern coast of the Baltic Sea, and extending inland as far as Masuria.
To say that you live in or are visiting the Prussian region is still a correct term. See how it's defined by geographical features?
>>712967978
>You attempting a record for the most wrong shit written in a single thread?
It must suck when the facts don't agree with you. Keep drinking the kool-aid
>>712960692
Retarded, stealing is stealing is stealing no matter the "justification" behind it
>>712962057
This, it was most assuredly a trap
>>712960371
Yeah fuck your friends
>>712960612
In Canada you can put a wallet in a mail box and Canada Post returns it to the owner
>>712967888
It is retarded to call sales thievery and advertising brainwashing. Putting a billboard up that makes a product look appealing is NOT brainwashing. Trying to convince somebody to pay for something you have is NOT thievery. Consent is important. That's why it's okay to have a business transaction where both parties agree on the terms and why it's NOT okay to go into someone's home and steal their shit. If you actually equate business and thievery morally, you are either dumb or out of your mind. Equating business(the way you see it) and thievery is like equating rape with sex that a person agrees to and then later regrets. Rape is INFINITELY worse. But I would not even compare business to later-regretted sex because I think commerce benefits the consumer more often then not
>>712962096
Steve Jobs? But he's dead...
>>712963120
>Only niggers and liberals think they have the right to something they didn't earn.
FTFY
What would Hillary do?
Proof whitefags steal more than any nig would.no wonder your prisons are full .
>>712967584
what good has your borders done merifag, you have a country packed full of spics Mexicans,latinos,Koreans, chinks,japs,pino's,Cambodians,sandniggers,alsorts of middleeasterns,nigs,Africans,Canadians.
we have none of that shit in the u.k.
>>712960525
Run off on the plug twice
I assume the people are rich for a reason. They probably aren't stupid. People usually don't leave 2000 laying about, especially not in a weird spare wallet they didn't need on vacation.
Its a trap/test to see if the sitter is honest. You are probably on camera. Seeing as people can record and view them remotely they probably know already.
>>712960371
If they find out i hope they beat you to shit, call the cops and ruin your life. Get a fucking job you piece of shit. I would break your fingers and toes, one by one.
>>712960371
This will get you killed just so you know and you will deserve it. Good luck
>>712967888
>In the middle ages both were equally commendable.
The fuck? Being a thief would get your hands chopped off at the very least The fuck are you talking about?
>>712960371
Has anybody mentioned cctv camera in the house..busted
>>712967772
Yep. So now OP goes to jail and that solves his living situation too, but at our expense. What a faggot.
