Trump wants to end Net Nutrallty,so basically death of freedom of speech on the internet!
Explain How thats a good thing Trump pepole?
>>712658305
I'm really surprised that I haven't even seen one mention of the net neutrality thing on /b/ until now.
WHAT?!?!?!?!?
is this real?
>>712658305
Reveal your sources
his fucking cabinet is full of the worst of the worst in conservative politics and lobbying. net neutrality stands in direct opposition to the wishes of the media and telecommunications giants who wish to push their monopolization of information further. this is something you trump fancucks should really get a grasp on.
>>712659819
Didn't the man himself say he is against net neutrality?
I mean, obviously anything Trump says should be taken about as seriously as your alcoholic uncle when he's visiting for holiday and has consumed every ounce of booze within the house.... but still.
Ends your shitposting on 4chan... instant benefit right there...
>>712658305
time warner and comcast were among clinton's biggest donors, do you really think she wouldn't want to can net neutrality, too?
>>712659819
you realise that Clinton is one of washington's biggest lobby sellouts, right?
>>712661065
She isn't President. Trump will be. And his threats to net neutrality will be very real now.
>>712658305
suck my dEEEEEK
>>712661302
the government of america, democratic and republican, has been trying to fuck net neutrality for almost a decade, every time public outrage has stopped them
>>712661302
I wonder how long we can keep just saying "but Hillary would have...." instead of actually focusing on issues. Probably quite a while, given our track record.
>>712658305
yawn. no source.
we all know hillary would have been just as bad as trump and worse in other ways. stop trying to pidgeonhole leftists into the hillary hold outs. I did not want her. I would have been just as worried about net neutrality with her in office than trump. but the reality is trump is in office and his cabinet is either in bed with telecom and media giants or essentially being directly paid by those same companies. this is a direct threat to net neutrality.
>>712658305
Do you even know what Net Neutrality is? Do you know how long it has been around?
The internet was fine before it came into play, retard...
>>712661231
Obama is #1.
This is an actual fact, BTW...
>>712658305
There is literally nothing wrong with getting rid of net neutrality.
>>712658305
>trump wants to end an act that has been around since 2015
NO!!! THE INTERNET AS WE KNOW IT IS DOOMED!
>>712662193
it was created to keep the big sites from destroying the little guy by making deals with isps to throttle everything but thier service. dont be a faggot. 4chan will be one of the first to get fucked over if they remove it.
so we go talk shit on the tor network big deal
>>712658305
Truck Frump!
>>712662672
tor network will also be one of the first to get shit on.
>>712661483
>>712662173
>Are you a psychic
>reads the arguments supporting
source:https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/532608358508167168?lang=en
Is everyone on 4chan stupid or something?
>>712662600
In-fucking-correct, faggot. All it does is stop ISPs from rightly throttling / charging more, when they have every right to do so.
Internet is not a human right, faggot.
Netflix was eating massive percentages of bandwidth and slowing your ass down. Their ISP throttled them to save your ass, eventually charging them more, and rightly so.
That's like saying McDonald's can't charge a family more for 5 meals than you for your one meal. It is absurd.
>>712662853
literally supporting net neutrality all the kids start shitting themselves.
Where's Fed Neutrality? Because I see one massive fucking monopoly... one with infinite wealth is simply steals from your retarded asses.
>>712658305
KYS
>>712663157
so let me get this right? you pay for netflix and your isp decideds thats enough netflix for right now and throttles the service so you cant use it. B-but its thier right to throttle a service you payed for.
stfu faggot.
>>712658305
Rip ameri fags
>>712663591
america handed over control of the internet in october 2016
>>712663157
Your analogy is shit and so are you. Net neutrality means that traffic is treated equally -- there's no paid "fast lane". Under either model the traffic is still there -- some groups are just charged more for it without it with no good reason. Companies should be investing in their infrastructure, but it's easier to be lazy and just charge people more instead of improve. Why do you think ISPs shit themselves when something faster and more reliable is introduced, like Google Fiber? Other civilized countries with less pathetic companies have better Internet access than we do, and we invented the fucking thing.
>>712663435
>how is Trump wanting to end net neutrality a good thing?
>WELL YOU SEE THIS PICTURE OF A CRYING BABY? THATS YOU, FAGGOT! HAHAHAHA #MAGA
>Trump: 1
>FUCKING LIBERAL JEWISH PROPAGANDISTS REEEEE: 0
>>712662448
How are you going to start up a new delivery service,
if all your established competitor are allowed to go twice as fast
on public roads?
>>712663446
They don't do that though, retard. How afraid are you of McDonald's throttling your food?
These are businesses. They aren't like the government, where they can't fail. They compete for your business.
How retarded are you? You are looking at this ass-backwards. Netflix has an ISP. Netflix was raping it in the ass. The ISP responded by throttling their free ride, and then eventually charging them more... because they have other customers who needed bandwidth. Netflix was essentially a welfare queen.
Want one apple? Buy one apple. Want a dozen? Guess what...
Typical millennial liberal faggot. I can already tell you don't own a house. You're too dumb.
>>712663863
>Trump wanting to end net neutrality
great story
>>712663863
>It's almost as if Republicans are childish retards or something
They were too busy listening to us to look at Trump. Guarantee you the same people would've been "this nigger gonna kill us" on McCain and "at least he's not McCain" on Obama in 2008. Stupid kids.
>>712663741
>all traffic is treated equally
You. Are. Stupid.
>>712664081
All I see are 11 equal wedges... what's the problem?
>-a bernie supporter
>>712663957
you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about man. Netflix pays a company to provide their bandwidth. Net neutrality is specifically designed so the ISP that provides your service doesnt make any shitty deals to block access to different parts of the internet. how could you possibly want that ulness you are paid to post this nonsense.
>>712664260
What do you do for a living?
>>712664242
>November 22, 2016
>The day 4chan actually inverted greentext.
Don't worry. He's not going to do it just like Obama tried a few times, Trump will actually listen to the people.
Back to your cave your demon.
>>712664081
you fucking moron how do you think the internet works? Netflix pays shit tons of money to provide the bandwidth needed for thier service to be available to anyone that wants to use it. your ISP shouldt not be able to charge you more to go to certian sites. your a fucking shill or just plain retarded.
>>712664376
non of your fucking business shill boy. lets just say it pays a hell of a lot better than what you get to make shit up on the internet for your company.
The net neutrality people want is to prevent "toll booths" from popping up. Think like your ISP throttling access to Netflix because they have a deal with a competitor. That's not what the FCC is proposing when they talk about net neutrality. Being against their attempt at regulating the Internet is something everyone should be against.
>>712664460
Aaand your argument is over, I see.
So long, faggot.
>>712664260
>>712663957
The day you personify business as welfare queens is the day you chuck your credibility as anything more than a schizophrenic loony out the window.
>>712658305
That's an oddly funny and specific way of rephrasing wants to cut service to middle eastern hotspots of ISIS recruitment.
Of course if you have an article you can link it any time.
>>712664081
it doesnt even say if this chart measures site clicks or
single streams or amount of data streamed
certainly though this doesnt have anything to do with net neutrality
>>712664460
I'm not him, and he's not me.
>>712660465
>implying he can touch us on a Japanese owned site
>>712664596
>your ISP shouldt not be able to charge you more to go to certian sites
Your taxi service should not be able to charge you more to go to certain places.
You all took the real politick bait, the right will steamroll you within 20 years.
>>712659255
>>712662566
>>712662600
>>712663422
>>712664577
>>712664711
Don't mind me guys, just checking digits
>>712658305
Because whatever it is, as long as trump does it, you know it's gonna be great.
Bc he's gonna MAGA
>>712664648
>being too young to know about corporate welfare
Googling it: 16,800,000 results
It works inter-company as well, you know.
Anyway, I'll be going now. You're a boring retarded child.
>>712664648
you fucking faggot. you couldn't be any more transparent. you are real shit at your job. No body wants to have to pay extra to go to certain parts of the internet. the bandwidth is already payed for by the companies that provide the service. why the fuck should their be arbitrary tolls put on the consumer for the ISP to do nothing but block services.
ITT: People arguing against some of their most vital interests to avoid making their hero look bad
>>712664785
A byte downloaded is a byte downloaded.
Your analogy only works if all the distances the taxi drives are equally far apart but the taxi driver just doesn't like a certain street for some reason.
>>712662448
This is true.
It's only the death of the first and fourth amendmens once it's implemented.
>>712664785
Ignore shills delete shill threads. saged.
>>712665010
It's called welfare, so it must be the same thing. Those corporations are probably all obese black women in the ghetto.
>>712658305
1/8 b8 m8
>>712665146
>some of their most vital interests
nigger you don't know what net neutrality is
>>712665153
A mile driven is a mile driven. So what if I want to use 70 instead of 3?
>muh equality
Seriously, you're a retard. Just stop, kid.
>>712663446
Yes.
If you pay for 5GB, and then you actually use it, they reserve the right to penalize you for having done that.
>>712665137
TNSTAAFL
Say it with me now
TNSTAAFL, Bernie bro
>>712662276
If it's a fact you've obviously got the data to back it up... right?
>>712658305
this will be really bad if he does. i dont think he will though. it goes against right-wing ideology with their whole freedom of speech and that shit
>>712663957
Listen fam, I'm not that anon you were replying to, but aren't you supporting this a little too much?
I agree with what your saying, but as a consumer the current deal I'm getting is much better than what it will be if the ISPs get their way. Do you work for an ISP? I'm a student, I work part time to support my living while I study and I very much enjoy being able to torrent as much anime as I want, being able to watch the Drunken Peasants 3 times a week and play Overwatch or GTA Online with my friends each night without having to pay out the ass for it. You're clearly only for the ISPs because you're either working with one of them, or earn too much to care what they charge.
I don't get the purpose of these threads, will they somehow get Trump unelected?
You faggots like net neutrality? It's like i'm on reddit.
>>712665388
saged. by the way democrats are the ones that want to pay more for everything kiddo.
>>712659819
Yes.. It's true. Trump is the media's little darling. Hasn't it been obvious.
>>712664577
Trump gives zero fucks about the people... you're a fucking idiot if you think any different
>>712665137
but thats not even whats gong to happen. Do you think you as a customer will be charged extra for
ESPN live or some shit?
No you wont, but ESPN can then invest money to make sure theyll stay the #1 broadcaster practically blocking the internet for anyone with the same business model in mind.
Good luck calling Trump out on his shit these people will defend everything Trump ever does. He is like a God to them.
>>712665543
Democrats want the source to pay more. If you think the democratic voting base are the same people being taxed, your idea of economics is too fucked to be taking part in this conversation. Or, like Trump, you're lying for the sake of winning this """debate""".
>>712658305
>>712665687
Well you're an idiot if you think Clinton ever gave 2 fucks as well, its just Trump is less harmful because he'd rather not senselessly fuck with Russia.
>>712658305
>on the internet
You're thinking way too small.
Search "pizza". Get Pizza Hut. For additional local pizza providers, pay extra.
>>712665514
I pay fuck-all for my home internet. My ISP, one of 3 major ones in my area, has upped my speed 5 times in the past 5 years, for free, to keep me as a customer.
I am a small business owner... I understand business. Therefore, I do not let the federal government scare me into supporting their power-grabbing schemes.
Don't worry... I'm sure one day, after scaring enough retards into action, the federal government will nationalize the internet companies. All profits will end. They will be replaced by inefficiency, and increase the deficit.
No problemo. Uncle Sam is here to fix all your problems, yet again.
>>712665315
I do work for an ISP so im pretty sure I do
ITT: Manchildren whose parents pay for their internet take a stand.
>>712665846
Who said anything about Clinton? That's a given you fucking dunce, politicians have never given a fuck about anyone but themselves... Trump isn't a politician so the retarded half of this country thinks he does
Search "movies". Get General Cinema film results free. To search other films $0.99.
>>712666011
I bet there will also be an Affordable Internet Act, which forces individuals and companies to purchase internet access under "penalty" of a "fee" (not a tax, except where calling it a tax is required to get it passed into law, obby)
>>712666011
Fuck off back to New Mexico, Gary "What's Aleppo" Johnson
>>712665375
that is such BS!
If ISPs were suicidal they could pull that shit right now.
Its just a matter of smallprint and has 0 to do with net neutrality
>>712665957
thats the only place for free speech that matters anymore
I pay internet provider to show only my product when (product name) is searced.
>>712665756
no I dont think that, I think they want the taxpayer to pay more obviously. Why would the consumer need to pay the ISP more to use a service that has nothing to do with them? are you a socialist? The companies that provide the service pays for the bandwidth as a cost of doing business this wont go away if they remove net neutrality it will just add arbitrary cost to the consumer for absolutely nothing. $60 dollars a month is plenty for internet. Some people already get data caps. if ISP wants to make more money they can cap data plans. but this shit is ridiculous.
>>712658305
i dont live in the us so idgaf about your shit country going to hell. just pls dont come here
>>712666158
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxXfHxceMg4
HIGH ENERGY CANT STOP THIS TRAIN WOOP WOOP ALL ABOARD. LETS MAKE THIS MOTHER FUCKER GREAT AGAIN!
>>712658305
>Explain How thats a good thing Trump pepole?
>the government shouldn't have the right to control private property
>internet is made of put of private property
>people controlling their own property is freedom
>trump wants more freedom
>net neutrality is the opposite of freedom
fucking commies. next thing you'll want is border neautrality so just any fucking muslim terrorist can just walk in unvetted and suicide bomb a grade school
You don't pay Verizon, your page doesn't show up in response to searches.
>>712665846
this guy knows whats up
>>712666479
You should, we go down so do all you 3rd world faggots
>>712663157
>My ISP has the right to fuck me in the ass
Wow, what a cuck thing to say. Also, internet is indeed considered a human right in the eyes of the UN.
>>712666158
more like the retarted quarter. half of your country (not mine thank god) did not vote
>>712665359
What are you babbling about? Yes a mile is a mile, but using your logic the taxi driver would be charging more depending on what street or suburb you were in not the distance
>>712658305
Trump says a lot of things.
>>712663957
>These are businesses. They aren't like the government, where they can't fail. They compete for your business
>cable industry
>competition
pick one
>>712658305
and what happened to "lock her up"? Fuck this lying sack of shit.
>>712663157
What other rights are you just willing to give up retard?
kys
>>712658305
It's exactly the opposite. "Net Neutrality" was a meme that you-know-who was going to use to censor the internet. Why shouldn't companies be free to portion their own services how they like? Government regulation on private enterprise never, ever works.
>>712658305
Does anyone here even know what "net neutrality" is? Besides "It sounds nice! I want net freedom and rainbows and unicorns!"?
Net neutrality is spearheaded by Google to gain access to public utility poles, by having the internet DECLARED a utility. That way, they can spread out their fiber network. Not a public utility? GTFO our phone poles. It's as simple as that.
There's other aspects, like making everyone have access to the same bandwidth and speed. Sounds marvelous. It means that Aunt Tilly must be provided with the same horsepower as Netflix servers. Just so she can talk about knitting on fucking Pinterest. As it is now, you need that power, you have to fucking pay for that power. And, rightly so. But, some people think that's not fair, so they want everyone to have it. Great. Watch your internet bill increase by a factor of 10.
Don't get internet from Verizon, Comcast, Time Warner, etc? Got a great deal from some smaller, local provider? Ya like it? Say goodbye to it, because the net neutrality rules will eliminate any and every small ISP. It's in there. Research it.
People are told "net neutrality" is a free and open internet for the world! Yay! That's NOTHING to do with it. If it were, I'd be all in on this. It's about all I mentioned (and more. Dig into it), but it's mostly about Google wanting to get their hands on fucking phone poles.
>>712664785
you might be the dumbest fucking anon in this thread
you do realize removing net neutrality was a portion of what the TPP would inadvertently do/ allowed for and being anti TPP / PRO net neutrality is what almost all of the Chans stand behind
>>712662600
So, ISPs hand data back and forth between each other. In a normal environment the traffic inbound and the traffic outbound from ISPs is roughly neutral. ISPs that service more requests than send out requests should be able to recoup their costs. If TW sends 1000 to comcast and services 900 from comcast, TW just used comcast infrastructure for 100 and should compensate comcast fairly. This is not net neutrality
When something like netflix comes along ISPs neutral traffic can become heavily lopsided. This causes an ISP to incur huge infrastructure costs of another business. Net neutrality allows this cost shifting.
Under net neutrality your Internet bill will keep going up as your data package loses unlimited status. But at least Netflix stays cheap. This is what happens when content providers offload their costs onto ISPs.
Like every other law proposed recently doublespeak is real. Neutrality is actually forced cost shifting.
>>712666999
it is a fucking utility just as much as a phone is dipshit.
>>712666972
you fucking idiot.
>>712664081
WHOOOOHHHH nice chart faggot, not on topic but damn. BOOM good post.
>>712667119
nigger I get 10mbits up and 100 down. the problem is already solved. why the fuck would I want to get cucked harder.
420 Build It Faggots
WE"RE GOING TO BUILD THAT WALL!
Typical conservative morons voting against their own interests.
This is what happens when you get someone on the inside because he is an outsider.
Someone who is the most sensitive man on the planet to combat political correctness.
Someone more corrupt than anyone to end corruption in washington.
You Trump supporters got conned.
>>712666541
No,no he doesn't
>>712666457
Not arguing with a shady guy like you
>Why would the consumer need to pay the ISP more to use a service that has nothing to do with them? are you a socialist?
Has nothing to do with socialism. This is the lynchpin you're using to make this unanswerable. The consumer can change ISPs, and if not they can fucking choose not to pay, like going down the street to get a burger, if McDonalds charges too much, get off your own ass and make a fucking burger yourself.
>The companies that provide the service pays for the bandwidth as a cost of doing business this wont go away if they remove net neutrality it will just add arbitrary cost to the consumer for absolutely nothing.
The cost is redistributed to the one who's buying the service that makes it so expensive. "For nothing."
Rest of your post is you complaining because you can't get off your ass and find a better service provider.
Won't bother reading your replies because you'll just try to play another rude shady trick on me. You poke the bull, you get the ass.
>>712662101
http://fortune.com/2016/11/21/trump-net-neutrality-fcc/
Fortune magazine. Not exactly a bastion of leftist whiners.
>>712665315
Net Neutrality is the only thing stopping ISPs from controlling every site you go to and how fast or slow it loads.
>>712666158
Clinton's TPP deal would have given corporations total control over internet content in the form of copyright claims.
What ever happened to Anonymous? Defenders of internet freedom?
Oh right...
>>712667138
Because you say so? I'm talking legal definitions of utilities. PUBLIC utilities. Now, scamper along.
it just means Comcast et al will be able to charge more, and throttle your bandwidth, and add lower caps.
Regulation prevented them from doing this.
It'll be great for the corporations. And it will fuck you as a user. Which is fine with me, the more Trump fucks the middle class (his base), the happier I am. So carry on President Trump!
>>712667148
Not an argument.
>>712658305
Trump is a delicate snowflake that needs to make the entire world his safe space.
This is not new, he said he'd "meet with Bill Gates" to "lock down the internet" while he was campaigning. The man is a sputtering retard, nothing he does should come as a surprise.
>>712667269
>Typical conservative morons voting against their own interests.
>implying it won't trickle down
>>712666999
check'd
>>712667322
most places there is only one service provider kiddo.
>>712664260
The service netflix pays for bandwidth does not provide door to door service. The data travels through multiple ISPs. Net neutrality laws prevent these ISPs from billing each other.
Does this add anything to your arguement?
>>712666999
crazy trips
just like your 3rd paragraph is full of crazy
>>712658783
People who were talking about it got drowned out by retards shouting CUCK and SHILL.
>>712666999
HOLY SHIT
dub trips
>>712665375
Thats basically how Time Warner has been operating the last decade, litterally shitting on its customers so... yeah, they may do that
lol Clinton's TPP
>>712667496
>ISP's arent making enough money!
>they should be able to charge to just block traffic!
>I'm a raging faggot!
We get it.
>>712667399
This will have no effect whatsoever on his approval ratings or his chance for reelection. People who voted for Trump didn't do so because they liked his policies and every election 99% of people who vote Republican know they're technically voting against their own interests. People voted for Trump as a "fuck you" to the establishment and they'll do so again in 4 years regardless of whether he does a good job or not.
>>712665526
No one said anything about that you triggered faggot, it's about net nuetrality not your faggot president. retard.
>>712667533
sure kid.
>>712663157
Internet actually is a human right, faggot
https://www.wired.com/2011/06/internet-a-human-right/
http://www.businessinsider.com/un-says-internet-access-is-a-human-right-2016-7?IR=T
>>712667517
Again, actually READ the proposed legislation. The internet you have now (assuming you're uncapped) will be the premium tier. The price will skyrocket.
You'll be offered lower tiers with less speed, less bandwidth, etc. This is all in there.
>>712661231
Clinton sucks therefore Trump can do no wrong, now he's won you can't fall back on that chestnut, you have to judge him on his own merits and by what he says, not what Hillary says.
>>712667660
*yawn*
>>712667720
pretty sure Trump is President of the internet too since American built it and hosts most of it
ITT: Trump humpers try to tell us Net Neutrality is bad.
This is some high quality logical gymnastics here. Arguing Trump positions should be an olympic sport
>>712667764
This is gonna fun
>>712667660
Trump didn't win a huge victory though. 306 electoral college votes... Obama crushed that in 2008 and 2012.
In fact the only reason trump won... is because democrats didn't show up.
I wish you guys were intellectually honest.
Net Neutrality is a joke. The internet isn't some magical bastion of free speech that you have some inalienable right to. It is technology and infrastructure. It is expensive. In a free market, service providers SHOULD be allowed to manage speeds and costs related to service. If you don't like it, change providers. Believe me, if a company realizes that people are begging to drop another one for throttling/limiting access... they will jump on it.
You can't support capitalism and liberty and support NN too. The system will keep itself in balance. It has nothing to do with your free speech. You still have it. Nobody guaranteed you would be provided outlets for it though.
>>712667740
So, internet is a fucking human right? They already said health insurance is, too.
Where does food, water, heat, and shelter fall into this? I'd kinda think those were a bit more important than the fucking internet.
>>712667764
Clinton's all they have.
There's no substantive defense or support for Trump.
>>712661464
Did you notice how Trump has reacted to public outrage so far? By throwing a tantrum on Twitter and then going full steam ahead. Diplomacy isn't something Trump believes in.
>>712665846
I love how everytime some flaw in Trump's policy is then refuted by " B... B.. What about Hillary? She rapes children! I'm a cock inhaling retard who get his news from InfoWars" NOBODY mentioned anything about this being Trump/Hillary go back to posting copypasta on facebook and pretend you're contributing to politics.
>>712658305
Why do I have the responsibility of explaining why that's a good thing? He is the one that said what he said and you were the one who said what it means.
Assuming we can even trust your opinion as valid-- actually, let's assume we can-- best case it's his responsibility to explain it.
Worst case (and far more likely, I retract my faith in you due to the fact that you're a /b/tard) you have no fucking idea what you're talking about and this is bait.
/thread/
>>712667915
>Trump didn't win a huge victory though. 306 electoral college votes
he didn't win the popular vote at all. most people voted for his opponent.
the guy has no mandate.
>>712667969
it's unfortunate that you republicans don't care about healthcare.
it doesn't matter when healthcare costs bankrupt you, you have nothing to lose.
the rest of us have houses, cars etc. that we'd potentially lose in a medical bankruptcy.
>>712667253
This isn't your nigger home Internet, this is the backbone services. If you pay your ISP and log in and want to look at porn on a server in Iceland, your ISP takes that request and hands it off, it gets picked up, moved, and handed off again and again. You only paid your ISP, do the 3 other companies that helped fulfil your request get anything?
Should they? Under what circumstances?
>>712667470
We live in the 21st century. Gather your flock and make your own.
>>712667740
Not in 'murica..
>>712664069
That can't possibly be right, they 'won'.
>>712666291
Thats what AT&T has been doing since 2012, and all they had to do was spin it slightly to make it sound like some people were getting something for nothing at the expense of everyone else, and their own customers got behind it, and they barely lost any subscribers. lol
>>712667758
nigger is this bizzarro world? you are literally arguing the opposite point of what net neutrality does.
>>712658305
>Implies "Net Nutrality" has anything to do with freedom of speech
>Shill
You suck at your job.
>>712668040
Some people think bending over for Russia is a great foreign policy and consistent with American ideals.
The real story is they just want to call whatever Trump does the right thing to do, they don't know what that is yet but whatever he does will be what becomes the right. It is essentially cultish reasoning
>>712667915
>i wish
you'd can your pseudo-intellectual narrative :)
>>712667533
And don't forget the posts saying>>712667739
>>712668161
My health insurance was $35 a week before Obamacare. It's $120 a week now and I have a $7,000 deductible. PLEASE tell me what I've gained.
>>712668178
sure pal.
>>712667739
Oh yeah, I forgot about that one!
>>712668015
yeah, no... trump's a toddler. tweeting at 3am, coked out of his gourd... not good
this man is going order a Chinese aircraft blown out of the sky, or an Iranian boat blown up, and he's going to start a horrendous international conflict (it's ok when republicans start world conflicts).
but apparently Clinton was "too much of a warhawk!". *sigh*.
>>712668070
The popular vote doesn't mean jack shit. The states have a right to choose a president that will represent their interest, and they all knew Clinton was the wrong woman for the job. Deal with it cuck.
I used to be pro-Net Neutrality but Trump hasn't given me a reason to doubt him yet so I'm going to give him a chance to prove that data caps etc. are for the best.
>>712668299
You suck at buying insurance then. Why pick the most worthless one and then blame Obama?
>>712667758
idk about the US but what you are talking about sounds like a matter of contracts
what legislation stops ISPs from capping your internet today?
certainly not net neutrality but sth called "the market"
>>712668316
>>712668288
yawn
libcuck shills.
>>712666999
It's like YOU didn't read up on net neutrality at all, the fucking irony
>>712668315
Let's all chip in and start laying cable.
>>712667740
>The Wired and UN (membership is ~80% Euro and S American socialists or former socialists) are an authority on humanity.
Glad i don't live in your world.
>>712667634
>I failed to understand how a system worked
>I made stupid decisions based on the buzz
>I fucked myself in the ass
You haven't figured out the problem, so I'm not surprised you're posting like a retard.
>>712658305
You mean like Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian who sobbed to the un about how people should be banned from social media for calling her a "liar" and calling out her bullshit? Or Laci Green who want's anyone who didn't want anyone supporting a different candidate in the election from Hillary banned for being a "racist" i.e. cue the buzzwords to silence actual debate.
>>712668360
This. "Net Neutrality" is straight-up Cultural Marxism.
>>712668375
but the popular vote does mean something. to the majority of America - who doesn't support trump.
the cool thing is that republicans will forget that, and they'll pander to their base.
and in 2020, they'll be btfo.
the orange devil's already reneged on Hillary/mexico/wall/muslims
And he hasn't even taken office lel
>>712658305
e does it so we can't fap to the naked pics of his whorewife, the FLOTUS anymore
>>712668375
Its a bad sign when blind faith is the only/best reason you have for trusting someone's decision
>>712668485
>Random buzz word
>>712667947
you stupid fuck dont realize that neutrality is the only thing
keeping that market free.
Do you think a free market is what ISPs and other shot callers want?
>>712663157
lol bro, what the fuck "eating massive percentages of bandwidth". Where do you get this shit? Do you have any idea how inexpensive it is to actually provide bandwidth? ISPs are leveraging that bullshit as a money grab. They can provide inefficient traffic paths to extort money.
>>712668328
>I say it's going to happen, so i can use it to compare to actual positions on issues people took themselves.
>>712668390
BINGO
Net Neutrality is a dangerous side effect of Islamic chem trails that causes autism and abortions in women
honestly, I voted Trump purely for the bants.
>>712668360
All I've ever heard is net neutrality keeps the internet open and free. when did this change? how about you post some sources.
>>712668575
>FLOTUS
>L
no
>>712668299
you must be a fucking idiot if you pay that each month with that kind of deductible. your own fault for ass raping yourself with your insurance choices
so just today Trump admits he's not gonna "lock her up" and he's not pulling out of the Paris climate plan and he disavowed the alt-right...when you Trumpies gonna start to realize the Clintons fucked you after all? the Clintons ran Trump the whole time dipshits
>>712668417
Yes. Meshnets are real. You can run them from your home. You can pay a fee to the government to connect to their cable systems (and lay cable!) exactly the same way the ISPs do too. How do you think things happen in the world?
>>712661231
the fuck does that have to do with trump? the election is over bitch.
>but clinton
is no longer a valid retort
Fuck neutrallity
we are the Trump-Tramp-Team!
>>712665846
This isn't about Clinton. You Trumpfags need to stop bringing that shit candidate up because she isn't in office. We are now dealing with Trump, not Clinton, so stop making the argument that Clinton would've been worse because that's not what we're talking about.
>>712668792
yeah old melania's face is SUPER manly.
trap? probably.
>>712668549
The "majority of america" doesn't fucking matter. The important thing is the "majority of states." We live in the era of big gov't so it's not surprising that you forgot that. But in America we value freedom, and the electoral college is an important part of States' rights.
>>712668580
It's not blind faith. Trump is a billionaire for a reason, when it comes to the economy he knows what he's talking about better than a couple of retards shitposting on 4chan. If he says net neutrality is bad for business then we can take him at his word. ISPs are companies just like any other and are entitled to the same rights.
>>712668299
Jesus man, shop around instead of jumping on the first shitty deal that pops up on Google.
>>712668838
most people didnt want any of that shit. we wanted an outsider. but its looking like its business as usual. we tried and we did fuck over the clinton machine pretty good though.
>>712667947
Bingo. Your local ISP will make their money. Would you like them to charge you or netflix? I don't use netflix so I'd like it if they charged netflix.
Net neutrality makes cost shifting onto consumers easy. Do you really think netflix is profitable at $10 a month for all you can stream? Or is it that every Internet consumer has $4 a month embedded in their bill whether they use netflix or not.
>>712668838
it's pretty awesome
>>712668485
SHit he said Marxism, guy must know his stuff, better not debate him guys
>>712668910
does she anal? what do you think? I would rape her ass!
are trumptards going to keep stammering out "b-b-but shillary clinton sez..." for the next 4 fucking years, because he's not even president yet and it's already getting old
>>712660447
you shouldn't try making jokes. it's not for you.
>>712666011
How lovely for you. If only everyone was so lucky.
Ours has been screwing us, and thanks to outdated territory laws from the cable tv industry, only one provider is in one territory at a time, thus eliminating competition. So when they limit your bandwidth and access or gouge you on billion, for any reason they come up with whatsoever, you have zero other options but to take it like a bitch.
Fuck your lucky ass. The rest of us are eating shit on this deal.
>>712668838
the trumpfags are kids who threw a brick through the window and are surprised that it let the cold air in. They never thought this through, they just wanted to throw the brick. Bunch of irresponsible fuckwits.
>>712668924
so... now it's not rigged? what is it today, rigged or not? (srs question)
btw trump hated the electoral college up until he won.
>>712668668
you forgot nigger aids
>tfw Trump shuts down 4chan after us scumbags helped him win
;_;
>>712668888
Trump-Trap-Train
FTFY
>>712658305
nice meme
>>712658305
There is nothing to explain. People, including those on this board, do not vote rationally and especially so in the USA. No where else could an unapologetically ignorant inarticulate imbecile become Head of state.
>>712669181
LIBERAL nigger aids
>>712668299
LOL rekt
>>712668622
What they have now ISN'T a free market you noob. Also, do some reading. It's good for you.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/a-free-market-defense-of-net-neutrality/article/2556337
>>712669143
Hillary's a fucking criminal. Don't you get it.
1. Benghazi
2. Emails
3. Rape
4. Murders
5. Classified intel leaks
6. Lying about SNIPER FIRE
SHE'S BEEN INVESTIGATED BY THE FBI HER ENTIRE LIFE
>>712668924
Electoral college is bullshit. 20 states don't even have laws forcing the elector to vote in accordance with the state's popular vote. In the rest of the 30 states, sometimes the penalty is just a fine. Get outta here with your bullshit.
>>712668299
I bet you blamed every losing scratchcard on Obama too.
>>712665375
net neutrality isn't about how much bandwidth you use, it's about how you use it, and that your shitty isp will have any control over that.
>>712666662
>>712666933
lol it's ok. He may have been born a poor piece of shit, and is currently still a poor piece of shit, but once the billionaires and multinational conglomerates realize how valiantly he's defended their honor on the Internet, they are bound to accept him as one of their own, and give him all the wealth and power, and titties he deserves. Just wait, you'll see.
>>712669174
Thinking the rules should be changed does not negate claiming a win under them as they are now in place.
Make America Naked Again
I guess all the sandniggers in the world fap to the pics of the Trumps
>>712668392
Psh, nothing personnel, kid.
>>712669146
Sorry, wasn't meant to be funny.... more personal experience came out in that post than I should have allowed
>>712669172
The rest of us can weather trump, economically.
It's going to be glorious watching trickle-down economics tear his already poverty-stricken base apart. They're already whining and he's not even taken office yet :)
>>712669305
Infowars fag get the gtfo or just go back to /pol/
>>712668485
wtf?
>>712669231
Hitler
>>712669305
and she is now irrelevant to any presidential debate, forget her and claim responsibility for the fundie shitshow you voted in
