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> be me driving home from Boston
> doing 15mph over the speed limit
> see cop hiding
> pulls me over
> license and registration
> walks back to my vehicle
> have "trump pence maga, infowars.com, hillary for prison" stickers on back glass of truck
> "I have you a warning could have been a 170$ speeding ticket...by the way, I love your stickers, thank god he won. You are brave having those on your truck in this state"
> "thank you officer, anything to protect the constitution, we're gonna make America great again. Thank you"

> mfw even cops in the yuppiest of towns in the second most liberal state in the country are maga to the be core
> feelsgoodman
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>>712473715
Meanwhist in Sweden , cucks are raped daily
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>>712473715
good story lad
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>>712473715
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>>712473715
cancer
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>>712475723
Yeah I'd like to see those unarmed faggots try that in a state with decent gun laws. Try to assault me or anyone else and you'll catch a bullet to the head.

t. black man
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>>712475808
>>712475674
Lol.
Hopefully you never experience real facism.
You would die in your sleep, your family would die, anyone that speaks of you or your family would die, and any memory of you or anyone you ever loved would be permanently wiped from existence.
If your fears and grievences were valid you wouldn't be alive to voice them.
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>>712475723
Not
>>712476433

>>712475674
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>>712476394
Armed communists.
November 20th, 2016
We aren't liberals.
We don't fuck around.
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>>712473715
Only answer is study your pocket constitution, learn your rights, and when to wave them.
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>>712476433
One can study history and notice similarities in policies and personalities and make connections. Fascism is dangerously on the rise. Just because it isn't in the house doesn't mean it isn't knocking on the door.
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>>712476559
Hey, what ever floats your boat.

Its kinda cute. Id ask them what the name of their band is.
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>>712476559
>college girls with airsoft guns

lol I'm real afraid
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>>712476559

why don't you leave and move to a real communist country?
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What town was it?
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>>712476801
Then they'd say their organization is the Austin, TX Red Guard and shoot you in your reactionary face.
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>>712475808
>ITP we have a rare specimen.
> A facist who is militantly against fascism
>mfw
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>>712476940
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>>712476433
The whole point is to not allow our country to get to that point in the first place.
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>>712476934
>liberal """communists""" aren't reactionaries

they're the ones rioting because the media told them trump was sending all gays and spics to the gulags
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>>712476837
Kill yourself, reactionary trash.
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>>712476559
not scary. the opposite of that, actually.
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>>712477114
I never said liberals or communists are reactionaries. I have a feeling you don't know what a reactionary is.

They're rioting because they see the fascist tendencies. And Trump wouldn't send minorities to gulags, he'd send them to concentration camps or deport them. Gulags are where capitalists, racists, right-wingers go. Someday hopefully.
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>>712473715
>that happened
gb2 leddit
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>>712476934
Baha, that's super cute.

Like having a gun is the same as using a gun. Im all for them open carrying their rifles but they arent anything more then the other guys walking around open carrying ARs. Its just show, being the big man.

Proles aint doing shit. A boot, stomping a face. Forever, darling.
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>>712476559
The fire rises.
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>>712477270
It's funny that you people don't take armed communists seriously. Talk to the Czar of Russia in November, 1917 and he'll tell you to take them very seriously. Before they shoot him.
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>>712473715
>second most liberal state in the country
What's the first?
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>>712476837
I'm such a smart guy, what even is internationalism?
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>>712477481
California and Mass. The two richest states in America.
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>>712477314
Oh believe me, I don't know what they're standing around for, they should be organizing with other comrades and overthrowing the government. We all know the liberals won't fucking do that.
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>>712477051
Why even have principle if your too pussy to stand by them. Want to know how you defeat fascists? Debate them. They might not change their minds but anybody who is watching might be suede. The only thing oppressing these people will do is validate their claim and encouraging their Autistic behavior.
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>>712477576
>Vermont not most liberal
The fucking liberal jesus is from there by choice.
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>>712477445

you're a special kind of stupid, arncha?
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>>712477481
Probably commiefornia
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>>712477445
Communists in the US are outnumbered 1,000, if not 10,000 to 1; and the vast majority of them are disarmed college kids who've never so much as touched a real firearm.
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>>712477445
lol. good luck with your revolution, make sure you're home by 6:00 for din dins or mommy will be mad
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>>712477857
Liberal=\=communist
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>>712477803
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>>712477922
It's on the rise.
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>>712477578
Theyre way to busy giving themselves handies because they have super cool masks and they are showing the man! By using a right upheld by the people they are supposedly against.

ahh one day theyll get a job and grow up.
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>>712473715
nice fake story, bro.

anybody who falls for this is probably an idiot or pretending, to bump this thread.
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>>712478073
Only among college freshmen who read about if before any other extreme political ideology.
Democratic socialism, on the other hand, is gaining some momentum.
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>>712478122
The typical "get a job and grow up" mentality of a reactionary who knows nothing about someone they're referring to. "Get a job and grow up" oh like you did? Not fighting for anything and being a slave to the capitalist system. Sounds fun, my dude.
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>>712478073
It's cute that you actually think that, but the current movement is a pathetic shadow of the rise of Marxism in the 1910s and 1960s.

If elections are any indication, right wing capitalism is on the rise. Brexit, Trump, The National Front, The Party for Freedom, Golden Dawn, etc.
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>>712473715
I live in central Maine but go to Boston 1-2 times a month on work. That's so cool to hear, Beantown can be so much of a leftist shithole.
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>>712478223
Social democracy, not democratic socialism. Until these so-called DemSocs talk about common ownership of the means of production, they need to do more research and be honest that they're just SocDems.
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>>712473715
cops are trash
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>>712477292
>Gulags are where capitalists, racists, right-wingers go. Someday hopefully.

I'll be dead first, or you will. So any day you're ready to try, bring it. I would LOVE to be on a counter-revolutionary death squad and give Rio Plata helicopter rides to every communist.
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>>712478313
Well Im sure some of them will probably not get a job and live off the system but one day they may be useful people. Right now theyre a bunch of pussies who dont really know what they want except they want it now!
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>>712478223
>Implying I'm not a self educated Marxist from the proletariat who cannot afford college, who instead works as a trade apprentice.
Vox Populi, Vox Dei
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>>712478526
Let me guess, you're in your 50's, the most base Republican possible, and fully believe the 1960's bs anti-communist propaganda.
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>>712478415
We're all accelerationists now, comrade.
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>>712477438

You'll REALLY perish like a dog if you try armed revolution. The Day of the Rope awaits.
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>>712478440
>common ownership of the means of production
This is literally where my left leaning politics stops leaning.
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>>712475674
Sausage fest, the election.
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>>712478150
yeah, nobody believes that truck still has glass if he parked it in boston
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>>712478656
superb!
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>>712477782
Vermont is pretty libertarian.
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>>712478715
so this is how he will create the empire!
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>>712478655
You don't need propaganda to understand that communism is a failed philosophy.

Or do you want to try to take away property from the "Bourgeoisie" farm owners, return it to "the people", fail to produce a healthy yield and starve another 8 million to death?
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>>712478655
Haha, good guess! Actually no, Im in my late 20s and I run a successful company. you know, being useful and employing people so they can better thenselves.

But you go ahead and do what you like. Your mom still loves you, and its super sweet she lets you live at her house without making you pay rent.
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>>712478784
Wow I'm such a cool horseshoe liberal look at me guys.
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Communists exercising their 1st and 2nd amendment rights.
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>>712473715
>I have you a warning could have been
Dumbass yuropoor detected. Learn english and get better bait.
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>>712478870
Vermont is only librarian about guns.
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>>712473715
>"thank god he won"
Best also thank god when Reaganomics ultimately destroys your pathetic low-income lifestyle by raising the costs of living for everyone but the rich.
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>>712478955
Oh boy! We all know that when there's a famine in a capitalist country, it's nature, but in a socialist one? Boi that's the gubmints fault.
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>>712478976
yup. Good thing they believe in everyone having those rights! Right guys? Right?
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>>712476394
You dumb fuck. If you shoot somebody for snatching your flag out of your hands. You're going to prison. In any state.
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>>712478955
So is fascism and capitalism. Power shifts to those with the most influence. Capitalism, it's the rich that have the power. In fascism, it's one political party. These are facts. Any extreme is terrible, because humans are terrible. In fact, 99% of /b/ are just terrible human beings with no critical thinking ability whatsoever.
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>>712475723
THE CONTEXT IS WRONG HERE

THOSE LAW ABIDING CITIZENS WERE TOLD BY POLICE TO BACK OFF AND THOSE KIDS GOT ARRESTED AFTERWARDS

MY CAPS LOCK IS BROKEN
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>>712478914
We will reach a tipping point, leading to full communism, or 1000 years of darkness ft. God emperor Trump.
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You know, I don't believe in white privilege.
But the amount of middle class white guys I saw practically sucking each other's dicks at the thought of Donald Trump being elected surprised me quite a bit.

I figured they'd have a little more dignity than that, but oh well.
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>>712479102
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932

>The government's forced collectivization of agriculture, a part of the Soviet Union's first five-year plan, forced grain procurement, and political repression in the countryside were the main reasons for the famine.

Name one famine in a capitalist nation that wasn't the result of natural causes.
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>>712476433
Apex Guffaw
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>>712479268
Sorry, I can't hear you over my highest standard of living on earth.

But feel free to move to a communist utopia, I'm sure you'll love sucking the juices out of your rotten commie potatoes.
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>>712479363
The inevitable one caused by killing all of the bees with unregulated pesticide.
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>>712478955
Jfc you're so brainwashed by capitalist ideology. There are so many issues with what you just said I don't know where to begin.

First off, communism has never actually happened. Socialism has, and socialism leads to communism. But communism has never been fully achieved. Usually due to outside capitalist forces. (See the Cold War or the CIA missions in Cuba.)

Secondly, the abolition of private property is a main part of socialism. The means of production go from the hands of a sole individual to the hands of the workers. For example, a company that produces cars would no longer be owned by a few people who make six figures while they have employees who make far less. It would be owned by all of the workers who play a role in the production of the cars and all choices would be decided by the workers of the company and since each job is equally important because without someone doing a certain role, the whole operation falls apart.

Finally, I get a very strong feeling you're talking about the Soviet Union and the famine that occurred on the 1930's. That wasn't because if collectivization. It was because of the poor weather conditions and the Kulaks in the Ukraine hoarding grain and burning crops to resist the collectivization because they were capitalists and wanted money money money and to this day say poor us when really the Soviet government was offering them just compensation for collectivizIng their crops, but like I said, the Kulaks were greedy and resisted sk they are largely to blame for the famine. And they deserved the gulags and the starvation they brought upon themselves.
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>>712479598
Are you in Scandinavia with it's European socialism?
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>>712479598
are you american? cuz you're not even high on the list of standard of living lol.
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>>712476394
You are such a badass.
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>>712479650
>it can't succeed because of outside forces

I'm glad that you admit your own ideology is garbage; tl:dr the rest of your drivel.
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>>712473715
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>>712479119
Yeah except people are actually getting assaulted and beaten for this shit.
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>>712479650
>i work hard for years, decades even, inventing a product and open up a business
>i employ people to help me make m product, in turn they get paid the federal minumum wage
>my profit leads to investments into my company, which i then use to expand and employ even more people
>maybe i make a new product

how should the workers be entitled to anything more than whats fair by Law?

dont give me any hot air....just tell me in plain english
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>>712479363
The Irish potato famine where they produced enough crops of other types to fix it, they just couldn't afford them.
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Trump didnt make sense to me until you look into his voter base. Its so sad to see impoverished, uneducated white america believe this orange chimp will deliver the jobs that were dismantled through deregulation. Those jobs wont come back E-V-E-R. No president can deliver on such promises either. Its so dangerous though that the voter base cant see past their anger to what really hangs in the balance - GLOBAL issues.
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>>712479707
>>712479753
Australia (which is apparently second to Norway now), also America is 8th on HDI, above Canada and New Zealand.
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>>712479598
High standard of living doesn't mean shit to those who are out of the ability to be a part of this living you boast so much about. Quality of life is what matters. Thats why so many Russians talk about wishing the Soviet Union didn't dissolve because now they can hardly afford to pay rent and afford food but in the Soviet Union, everyone was guaranteed food, and a roof.
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>>712479915
Haha, ITT: Business owners trolling "communists" for fun.

High five Business bro.
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>>712479915
I think the biggest problem is that in the day to day creation of the product your employees are the ones doing most of not all of the work. I'm not saying you shouldn't receive compensation for your hard work, but that it's exploitative to earn so much from your workers while giving them comparatively very little in return.
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>>712479824
You daft ponce, obviously if you have enormous outside forces doing everything possible to stop what you're doing, it's going to be pretty fucking hard to accomlish. America and the capitalism is has worldwide is a giant that is afraid of any form of socialism that they will do everything possible to stop it from happening. But when it comes to far-right movements, nothing wrong according to American capitalists.
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>>712480129
>everyone was guaranteed food in the Soviet Union

Commies are this fucking delusional?
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>>712480129
dont even start in with talking about Russia like you know jack shit

fuck off right now

>you dont understand shit, you pathetic fucking communist, entitled, first world piece of shit
>ill fucking wipe the floor with you
>REEEEEEE
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>>712479915
All I need.
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>>712480356
>p-puhlease let me try communism for real this time, it won't lead to the deaths of tens of millions this time I swear

Fuck off with your failed garbage philosophy.
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>>712480294
Have you ever employed people? Do you know how difficult it is to find people who can even do the bare minimum of their jobs without fucking it up?

Seriously. It blows my mind everytime I have to fire people because they do not even complete the vasic operations set before them.

No, they are not deserving. If they have drive and exceed expectations, in a growing comoany they could become shareholders and make money from their sweat. But they have to be on the ground floor and put in the time and dedication.
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>>712480357
Oh boy, nothing like showing bread lines. Where they were, um, waiting to get food. The food that they were guaranteed? Unlike in the GOOD OL USA where homeless people have to beg for hours for money just to get a fucking sandwich. Thanks for proving my point.
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>>712480247
right back at you nigga

>>712480294
"I think" is akin to "i feel"

D I S Q U A L I F I E D

>however

>it's exploitative to earn so much from your workers while giving them comparatively very little in return

now we're onto something.

then go get an education. join a union. demand a raise. maybe youll get it, maybe not...maybe the company becomes automated.
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>>712480476
>Fascists regard the complete mobilization of society under a totalitarian one-party state
>Communists regard the complete mobilization of society under a totalitarian one-party state


Communism is just another shade of Fascism, which are bother authoritarian garbage.
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>>712480634
Okay, good luck with producing enough of your product to make a living. Oh wait, you can't? You can only do that because of workers? Hm, maybe they do deserve a little more than scraps while you sit back and collect and collect in your comfy office chair while they do the grunt work and hold your whole company up on their shoulders.
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Literally none of that shit happened faggot
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>>712480476
I'm not capturing people and enslaving them....

they work for a agreed upon salary or hourly wage.
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>>712477576
You know, home of the rich elitist robber barons.
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>>712476559
looks like a bunch of plebs. these are the same fuckers that would drop their weapons and hide soon as bullets start flying.
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>>712480664
>Your weekly rationed bread loaf is totally an improvement over a society where you can be self employed a buy as much bread as you possibly want

The vast majority of the homeless in the US are not starving, and are beggers by choice (ie Crazy/Druggies). There is a reason Juan is risking his life to hop the border to get into the US, and Ivan was risking his life to flee the Soviet Union.
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>>712480743
Not all forms of communism are the same and many do not advocate for a totalitarian state. And don't come back with the "my type will work" bullshit because not every type has been tried. I know it's hard for your feeble minds to comprehend such a complex political philosophy but yes, there are many many forms of communist thought. Do some research.
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>>712480984
>implying it's that easy to become self employed
>implying the capitalist system is perfect and doesn't fuck a hefty amount of the population
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>>712480942
Go find out. Dare ya.
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>>712480664
>welfare
>food bank
>free resume making and printing services
>homeless shelters
People don't have to beg in the USA if they dont want to. Believe it or not but we are in a socialist state already. Not communist, but the needy get without having to break a sweat if they simply ask for it.
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>>712480818
An agreed upon hourly wage that is a shit load less than yours even though they do most of the work. And also a wage that they essentially must agree to or else risk homelessness.
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>>712480997
>he actually called Communism a "complex political philosophy"

Your freshman level Poli Sci is showing.
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>>712480800
I love this idea, this cartoonish and utterly childish idea that when you run a business you just sit back and count the piles of money that roll in.

If 10% of my employees gave up what I did to make things work I would be ablw to pay them much more. But most people love thw comfort of a steady 9-5 job that when 5 pm rolls around thwy can do what ever they want and forget about their work till tomorrow.

I dont get to, the first few years I spent every hour I could fighting to make it work, fighting to find investment and carve my piece of the market.

I feel bad for small business owners, because the perception is that if you run a business you have money. lots of businesses get trapped because they cant take the risk to hire someone. and it is a huge risk. one you wont understand until youre in that situation.
most will stay ignorant.
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>>712480294
Biggest problem in your arguement. If we remove the incentives (carrot and stick) which is to creat and innovate to make large sums of money. Why would that person try? Why not be lazy because you will be paid the same
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>>712481112
are you fucking serious?

want to start your own business?

>go to your local tax collector
>register a business name
>get tax id
>go bust your ass
>proft
>????

need some ideas where you can literally make bank in a few short years?

>used cars
>cleaning
>lawn care
>home improvement
>animal sitting
>detailing vehicles/boats/rvs/etc
>become a Notary Public
>become a realtor
do i seriously need to go on?

there literally millions of things you can do to get rich...but youd have to be willing to actually put in the work....something you retarded liberal rich entitled brats wont do
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>>712481258
We are far from a socialist state.

>implying the homeless can just get welfare with ease
>implying shelters are in every town nationwide and don't have a waiting list (many do, and it can be very long)
>implying a homeless person hasn't had a shit life and a resume will help them in the shit job market
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>>712481112
>boohoohoo you actually have to try to be successful, why can't everyone be equally poor like in my favorite communist utopias

As someone who helped a friend get a business started last week, you're a lazy sack of shit.
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>>712481288
But you do have the choice. If you dont want to agree you dont have to. These are the rules of society
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good cop,look pal,use common sense restored with this election,
back off on the lead foot,the thought that your need for speed killed some nice cute N tubby 30 something butterfly ankle tat on a dead body got t boned driving 3 friends peewees back for after schrool tennis lessons
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>>712477445
Lmao I took a girl I wanted to fuck to the gun range
She considered herself machiavellian and a communist. Talked about how when the uprising happened she'd be able to kill those who opposed her ideology because she didn't like people anyways.
We get there and I ask her what she wants to shoot, she picks out my ar and fires off a shot. I say some shit like "good job" and offer her advice. She's standing there sighted in and but not firing, I'm telling her to keep going but she doesn't reply. I get by her side, I was behind her rubbing up on that white liberal ass, and she is crying silently with a blank look on her face. She tells me to please take the weapon and she goes and sits on the bench and keeps crying after I grab it.
She said she didn't expect that and that the gun scared her.
I poked fun at her reminding her I did infantry in the muhreens and that if she though she would kill me someday she better learn to fire a rifle while laughing. She looked pissed after that and said she didn't want to shoot anymore. I figured we were done and I wasn't going to tap that at this point so I told her to wait while I got my range time in. She was fucking angry on the way back to her place and I just had my country music playing which pissed her off even more.
Commies dream of shit, I'm sure there's a few legit ones but they're hilariously outnumbered and outgunned
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>>712481412
>implying an inner city homeless person has the toops to do any of that

Which is something you dont understand with your privileged life and all.
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>>712481172

They don't exist where i live. These plebs are just selling wolf tickets. Join the military and deploy overseas to a worn torn area, and then you'll see kids with guns who actually know how to use it and have the balls to kill. These kids are just selling wolf tickets. Obviously this is a glorious open carry state, so if these plebs decided to pop off theyd be dead in a heart beat.
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>>712481488
Nice get.
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>>712481288
???

>they must agree to or else risk homelessness
what? we're not on some desert island....you can get a job anywhere....

you do realize that factory jobs are supposed to be bad, right?

its incentive to get an education. thats why people strive for greater things. more money.

the fuck is wrong with you children...
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>>712481369
Poor you, doing the paperwork that amounts to a much smaller amount of the total of what your employees do.
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>>712481608
>privilege

Faggot detected.
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>>712481488
As someone who hopes one day all business is owned by the state, you belong in a gulag for encouraging exploitation.
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>>712480800
You've never had to supervise people, have you? It's a lot like herding cats.

The fact that you think the boss sits around in his office and does nothing indicates that you've never managed a business either.

So exactly what have you done?

It's been my experience that when your friends start talking communism, they always picture themselves as running the show and not as a lowly peon standing in the breadline for their high starch, low protein rations.
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>>712481440
It's the easiest thing in the world to get welfare. Just make up a sob story and boom, you get free money. What is a shit life? I would think it depends on your perspective. I dont much care for weath
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that's because most cops are morons honestly
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>>712481574
It's a shame you didn't get killed in the muhreens.
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>>712481608
LOL

what are you talking about?

I personally witnessed a homeless man named Ryan (43,46 cant remember now) get a G.E.D. and finish his 4 year degree in business...

this motherfucker was given financial aid

pel grants (free government loans)
and fed loans (not free loans)

he bought a car, got an apartment and made it

go cry into your soft egyption cotton sheets mommy and daddy paid for. hell, youre sitting home right now on their computer, in their house, using their internet bitching about how bad you have it because youre entitled.
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>>712481792
Ever see the paycheck of a government official? Nobody is more exploitive than the government. Trust me you don't want everything you own in the hands of those who write and enforce all the laws.
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>>712481792
>It's not fascism when we do it

Thing is comrade, I own firearms, my entire family owns firearms, everyone in my town owns firearms, my entire state is armed to the teeth and has a strong disdain for commie faggots such as yourself. Point being, I'd love to see you try.
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>>712481914
You'll get your chance faggot
I long for the day you pussies finally follow through and give us a reason
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>>712481822
you have any idea how many hoops you have to jump through? stop talking shit faggot
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>>712480800
>>712481369
I agree alot of employees have been getting the shaft for a long time in the USA, but if you don't let a business owner profit from their work and run things mostly as they like, you get to a point where the people with the talent and drive to be successful decide it just isn't worth it.

You can't force people to start businesses and hire workers at a fair wage, and we're at this strange point in the USA where a lot of people have no skills that anyone is willing to pay them much for.
>You have to pay your burger flippers 15 dollars an hour with benefits!
>In that case, I'll just keep this big pile of money in other investments. Now I do not need *any* burger flippers, thank you.
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>>712481801
I am perfectly content with living a modest lifestyle. Because what does it fucking matter if you become all right an extravagant? You'll die anyway and your "legacy" won't means shit once humans become extinct soo have fun wasting your life and being a leech on society.
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>>712482011
Yes I do. Believe it or not but I dont count jumping through hoops as "hard work". Like I said, they don't have to beg if they don't want to.
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>>712481930
Never said I have it bad. But being a socialist is growing up past the selfish stage of childhood and seeing the problems of the world and looking to solve them.
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>>712473715
I assume you gave him the 'ok' hand sign and said shadilay?
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>>712481792
I love this. Because there are people like you who pay my company for the service we provide and I laugh. I laugh so hard at the foor stomping. All the while you keep paying me to do what I do. Hell, maybe I even employ you. Nah, I have better hiring policys then that.
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>>712476559
Everyone should be afraid. Because socialists are murderers. Stalin, Hitler, Mao and Pol Pot killed millions.
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>>712482011
Welfare is (CHIP/SNAP) is literally 3 pages of paper work, and if you're an illiterate moron, a government employee will help you fill it out.
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>>712481951
If only you lived in the Soviet Union at the hight of the executions. You could've talked big all you want but at the end of the day you'd end up lined up against a wall with your brains splattered against the wall.
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As a Democrat I think Donald might do alright but Pence is shit. He likes to get shit passed while attention is diverted else where. Don't trust that fuck even if you're conservative.
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>>712482143
That's incredible, because I have never met a socialist who's worked for their supper. People who dont work dont understand why it's wrong to steal our efforts and give them out for free. No matter what somebody has to work for your supper, it is only selfish socialists who think that it should be somebody else.
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>>712482011
>go down to welfare office
>give all your information
>have valid address (home, appt, or shelter address/halfway house)
>prove your income (lack thereof)
>they calculate how much you can get
>get issued temp ebt card
>u now on welfare

OR
>be black
>illegal
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>>712480634
Lol

>>712480673
>>712480818
>>712481369
I've been working towards making a seed for the start of a local business. I know that the main thing that WILL be difficult with it is finding customers and getting out there. I actually know what it will require, and it will be a LOT of work. So, I absolutely get your point.

Why should I, one who has put say 5 years into finally establishing a business, pay my employees, who don't work as hard as me, didn't start the company with me, the same wages as I earn? Lol, no. So, I get your points here.

However, a problem with your perception is the larger, already established companies. It is near impossible to advance very high in many of them, even if you do work as hard as the owners/managers. Where I currently work, I know I put in more effort then most others, and yet this isn't noticed, simply because of how big the operation is.

In a small business, if you were to have me employed for your company when it's first starting up, you would want to give me at least 20% of the company, because I would be working as hard as you, maybe even harder, on making your idea work.

So, naturally, I get why a companies owners should be making more, but what about these super big, international companies? For what one is paid, it's like why bother? That would be why i'd make my own business, lol.

Also, I'm not the guy above who thinks every is just SUCH a HARD worker. I know how it is, like you said, this risk for hiring ANY of those people is huge. I don't get why he says "everything should be like, distributed fairly, maybe you get a little more then your workers, but otherwise it's good, lol :)"

Thanks for the response in advance.
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>>712481961
Oh I'll get my chance? I'm sure of it, pal. Keep listening to your mindless country bumpkin music and fuggin your sister.
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>>712478347
Your meme is low energy.
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>>712481697
Not him, but starting a small business is fucking hard. Depending on how much capital you start with, you have to do a little bit of everything.

>clean toilets
>fix the belt on the truck because the kid in the shop doesn't know how and it'll cost two days and 500 dollars to get a mechanic to do it
>learn to keep proper books
>clean up from yesterday's job til 3am so the place looks nice for the client coming in at 9am
>build new walls and electric because if you pay someone to come in and do it, they'll probably bungle the job and charge you half of your revenue for the month
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>>712482207
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>>712480129
MAGA motherfucker.
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>>712482143
What the fuck do you think business people do? You think I got into the business I am in because I wanted to fuck people? I provide service where none was there before. I provide the best service possible at the lowest cost possible because it is what is needed.

I do not run to government to solve problems. I go out there and solve them myself. Thats what real adults do.
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"All I know is that I am not a Marxist"
-Karl Marx
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>>712482324
Weird considering I've held two jobs and was a socialist the whole time? But you know, I'm just a lazy shit. Right. Keep assuming.
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>>712482143
walk the talk

go sell all your shit and start a coop and live in a socialist commune

go for it

>prvileged white male/female
>bitching about privileged whites
>for being privileged
>still has internet
>refuses to live the life he/she is trying to force on everybody else
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>>712482249
>we must kill all who dare question the Communist Party

More tolerance and love from the left I see.

Thing is, I don't live in a Soviet shithole, and this country isn't turning into a Soviet shithole in any of our lifetimes, so your point is moot.
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>>712482382
Lel mindless
This one is for you comrade
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uIxBmyRQlwQ
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>>712482544
He was referring to the so-called Marxists in Paris. He said "if that is Marxism, I am not a Marxist." Don't take things out of context.
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>>712482143
>being a socialist is growing up past the selfish stage of childhood

kek
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>>712482165

KEK
E
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>>712481412
Cleaning? Animal sitting sounds legit. But you know, you're right. It takes a lot of drive to make a business, and the people complaining about it simply don't have it. You can either choose to make your own success, or follow someone else's.
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>>712482076
Well, if you're content with your lot, then why are you hating on people who want to strive for bigger things? Are you so intolerant and close minded that you can't see anyone else's viewpoint? Or are you actually jealous, indicating that maybe you aren't so content after all?
And don't use the "everyone's gonna die anyway" to excuse your lack of ambition. It's like a kid whining that he shouldn't have to make his bed, because he's just going to mess it up again.
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>>712482143
Careful anon, your retard is showing.
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>>712482571
Nice strawman. See: >>712482460
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>>712480476
Meanwhile, in the real world...
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>>712482549
Oh well did you give away your earnings to the kid next door who jerked off all day? Or spread it around evenly to all your coworkers? Do you value your time and effort enough to protect it?
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>>712482755
friend of mine sold a cleaning business for 325K, competitor sold out some years later for a little over 500k

companies dont have to last a lifetime

not bad for 3 years of work and the small contracts that went with the business

literally anything can make money
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>>712482549
Also TWO jobs?? Do you mean at once or total in your entire life?
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>>712482549
what has capitalism ever stolen from you?
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>>712482770
Good argument, fuckface.
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>>712476837
cite one example of a state at any time that could be accurately named fully democratic

(prehistory)

if you use a US History textbook example of 'socialist failure' like Russia, China, then you haven't even read the definition
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>>712482763
I'm content with it, but I'm not content with pieces of shit like you exploiting the labor of others just to increase your own wealth.
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Liberals are worldwide! Even over the Pond in the uk
Fuck this bitch
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>>712482941
How can I learn how to do this?

When I make my business, I don't want to fuck it up. What can I do to get it right the first time?

Thanks.
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>>712482382
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>>712473715
So... an asshole interacted with another asshole?

Cool story, bro.
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>>712473715
And then everyone on the plane stood up and applauded.
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>>712482891
Jfc, socialism isn't about giving out all of your personal possesions, you fuck. And I won't give out my money to my neighbors because I still live in a capitalist system and I NEED what I make.
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>>712476559
I think I can take them down... coordinate my suppressed .300Blk AR with my friends car alarms. Tinted car windows..... Park in the right position and their almost in a file... they do have the sun behind them which is an issue.
Air looks still and almost 0kph no need for holds at less than 200M even at subsonic.

I can spread communism all over the sidewalk with cranial vacation shots.

:) warm and fuzzies all.
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>cite one example of a state at any time that could be accurately named fully democratic

>strawmen, everywhere I look
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>>712483279
Communism isn't about warm and fuzzies. It can be partially about throwing people like you into labor camps. Of course, that's the type I prefer.
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>>712483184
BE the change you want to see in the world

>some hippy faggot
>probably Gandhi
>dont know
>dont really care either
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>>712483091
I would suggest the first thing to change is how you listen to people. next time your with a group of friends, listen to ehat they talk about and write down anything that is a complaint. (not a complaint about a person but an actual problem they have)

Next: think of solutions. Could this problem be common? Is your solution reasonable and could it be done without a lot of effort?

Thats the first step. Instead of saying "yeah, I wish we had X!" go out and create it.

thats been probabaly the biggest change in my way of thinking. Listen, and problem solve. the rest comes.


Seeking out a mentor would also be advisable. if you have an idea in mind start finding people who are amarter than you to hang around.
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>>712483441
communism is fucking awful though? you can't strive, you're in a rut all your life
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>>712483441
comrade keep up the good fight
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>>712483393
sure like your strawmen, don't you?

quite easy to slay I will admit
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>>712483581
Solidarity, comrade.
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>>712483393
>roads are socialism
wow finally my eyes are opened
fuck trump and fuck white people
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>>712482877
socialism: where any person can receive bread.
capitalism: only people with money can get bread then have to wait in a line at a store to get that bread as other bread rots and people starve.
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>>712483610
>implying u.s. businesses actually house their employees like third-world child laborers
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>>712476751
Yes man those simiarities can't be unseen
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>>712476934
>and then shoot you in the face

No, they just walk around and get occasionally arrested around here. There's not a real warrior's heart among them. Just heavy-handed word-smithing and chaotic college-age energy and boredom. They talk like they're Navy SEALs without being able to pass an hour of surf torture,
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>>712483833
>capitalism: only people with money can get bread any time they want. poor people need to go to their local government sponsored (paid for by tax dollars) pantry to get free food.

>or go to their local churches food bank
>or go get welfare
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>>712483922
hahaha so i dont think trump is a fascist but its not like Hitler was born with a death count
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>>712483482
Very interesting, I will definitely take that to mind.

Funnily enough, when I was like 15, I though about a little transmitter on things because I kept loosing them. I also thought about something for keys since everyone looses them.

Fast forward a few years later and there is something out there for that. So, I think I get what you mean by this, and I will definitely watch out for this.

Perhaps I'll see what I can do before seeking out an advisor, but maybe i'll do it sooner.

What kind of business did you make mate?
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>>712480634
lol classic blame everyone else syndrome
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>>712483981
>not a real warrior's heart among them
you fucking LARPing rn?
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>>712484019
>or go to their local churches food bank or go get welfare

sounds like a reason for capitalism


god thats fucking stupid 'oh capitalism functions fine bc we have foodbanks and welfare'
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>>712483846
Lel
Yeah Venezuela has a huge surplus of shit right now
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>>712484068
Hey, Ive spent a lot of time and energy helping my people become better, its worked with some and not with others. Some just dont want to put anything in and when you are a growing business you cant run shit like a charity. I'm not the state, I cant afford to continue to employ people who dont produce at the bare minimum equal to their pay in some way, shape or form.
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>>712483833
10s of millions starved in socialist China during the Great Leap Forward and maybe 6 million during the Holodomor in the USSR.

Remind me how many have died in famines in the capitalist US?
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>>712484213
we have social programs because we Americans feel the need to help fellow Americans out

we pay into social programs like Welfare, WIC, Section 8 (HUD), church fundraisers, pantry drives, etc.

grow up child
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>>712484035
>What kind of business did you make mate?
so if someone doesn't profit from the system of oppression they are criticizing they cant talk?
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>>712473715
>anything to protect the constitution
except for the 1st, 4th, and 14th amendment, because Trumpanzees only care or have heard of the 2nd.
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>>712482877
I sure was a radical communist until your insightful and poignant image changed my whole world view.
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>>712481393
This man gets it.

Mental sweat equity is worth so much more than physical labor. Anyone can work a body. Only a gifted few can work their minds AND make the money.

Otherwise we would all be millionaires. Pssst, Not a special snowflake...
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>>712483796

Fuckin' sav'd, comrade.
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>>712484322
we only have these programs like welfare as a direct opposition to the state by communist and leftist forces withing the united states

you need to fucking grow up and look into the history of communism and organized labor in this country you fucking classcuck
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>>712484322
But if capitalism is so wonderful and works so well, why need to social programs? Could it be that it doesn't fucking work? Also, you say that we need these social programs, but you insult those who use these social programs.
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>>712484333
Fuck out of here little shit, I'm not talking to you.

Also, are you autistic or retarded? I literally cannot form those words into a coherent sentence.
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>>712484213
But you said >capitalism: only people with money can get bread

So not really true, eh?

Join the real world. It can be nice if you make your own way and even better if you choose to help others rather forcing others to help you.
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>>712477292
And people like you get shot
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>>712484560
>so if someone doesn't profit from the system of oppression they are criticizing, they cant talk?

try harder classcuck
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>>712484540
Mental illnesses. Phsyical disabilities. Birth defects. families who lost a parent and now need financial assistance until they get it together again. single teenage parents. the list can go on all night.

Some people are born at a disadvantage and require the rest of society to help them.

spoiled little rich faggots that cry because mommy told them to get a fucking job or take out the trash for gbp dont matter

you and your kind will never be taken care of by my money
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>>712477292
>he'd send them to concentration camps

We ain't paying for camps for illegals you fucking retard.
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>>712484606
>not knowing history

>Join the real world

kys
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>>712484727
Funny that you don't list born into an awful socioeconomic position as a disadvantage despite it being a very real disadvantage.
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>>712473715
These liberal shitheads are the same liberal shitheads that screamed at and protested the returning soldiers from Vietnam.

Same asshole, different era.
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>>712484035
Also, see where your problem lies on maslow's hierarchy. The closer to the bottom, the more urgent the need. That does not mean it is the most profitable though. Just keep it in mind.

To answer your question in a way that is vague, transportation. More specifically, servicing remote regions by air and land offering a conciderably more cost effective model than what was previously the standard. It wasnt my first choice but sometimes the need is more important than what you think is your dream job. Helping people is important. Strive to help people the best you can.

Other than that, if you have time read some books. Read rich dad, poor dad and the 48 laws of power. they give you an idea of what mindset youll need. they qont make you rich, but may give you a clue as to how you need to think.
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>>712484921
Quick guide to defeating fascism.
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>>712482597

This. All of it.
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>>712484921
soon comrade but you better be out there organizing
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>>712473715
Fuck you and fuck Boston
Your faggot state voted for Hillary and you will never be forgiven
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>>712484945
I have an awesome idea for a new business for you to invest some resources in, after the revolution, there will be a major need for some rope. Great investment opportunity!
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>>712484873
because its not.

ive met people who grew up with parents that were actual drug abusers and dealers. most joined the service to get some control over their lives and be part of a family and have comradery.

others got up to two/three jobs and saved every fucking penny they made, eating and living like refugees until they could pay their way through college.

fuck you and your victim complex.

stop blaming the world and your parents and "society" for something nobody can control.

get your shit together faggot.
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>>712484989
Is organizing the new buzz word for circle jerks?
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I am honestly getting some great communism memes from this. Keep arguing.
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>>712483279
I hate communists, but good god you are autistic.
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>>712485127
organizing is the old word for leading helping people with local struggles
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>>712485170
>doesnt want to contribute to the argument
>expects others to do work for it
>wants to reap the rewards

yep. sound about right.
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>>712485092
Yeah, well he died a mute watching the man he dispised consolidate his power and destroy what he spent his life attempting to do.

Now he is a side show attraction in a box. Fitting.
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>>712484760
You loser commies are merely boring now.
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*cough* CIA *cough*
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>>712485377
He didn't despise Stalin.
He isn't a sideshow attraction, he is beloved by many Russians and his tomb is treated with high respect. Nice bourgeois ideology though.
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>>712485110
>fuck you and your victim complex.

This,
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>>712485369
Do not criticize, tovarish. While capitalist pigs and communist bears argue, we small people must collect what we can from what they throw at each other. Then we use these things to form own, new government. With hookers and blackjack. Is of fun times, tovarish!
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>>712485406
kys have fun getting fucked just so poor working and colored people get fucked a bit worse
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>>712485587
Sure thing buddy
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>>712477960
Democrat = Liberal = Socialist = Progressive = Leftist = Communist = Fascist = Retards
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>>712484665
Literal retard.

I won't reply to you anymore.
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>>712485698
Is funny. They pay for flag, they pay for gasoline, and they pay for lighter. They contribute to a thing they hate by paying into it. Is like burning books. Author will still get paid, even though you did not read those books. You see, tovarish? Is of stupidity.
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>>712485552
Это не "товариш," но "Товарищ"

щщщщщщщ shch

лол
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>>712485869
And as a business owner, I laugh at this shit. Laugh. Thats what all this fist pounding and foot stomping gets from me.
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>>712485895
Is of joke, tovarish. I cannot read that.
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>>712479955
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DPRK > USA
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>>712485407
I know, right?

It's a crime we did not follow through and eliminate that commie fuckstick - think how much better off Cubans would have been.

A tragedy of history.
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>>712473715
This is just terrible.
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>>712485895
I thinks that you are saying that I misspelled tovarish, tovarish. But you see, it is of english letters, not Russian.
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>>712485951
>its funny because 100% of retarded americans think its a casual word that was used back then
>mfw it doesnt even mean "comrade" really
>[laughs in russian]
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>>712484945
True. The key idea would only work if it were well marketed and sold in a society that is doing well/has a bit of extra cash. Other wise, "key device? No, I need to go to the laundry mat this week."

"Helping people is important. Strive to help people the best you can."
That's some pretty honorable advice there mate, you're a pretty cool guy. Helping people while making your own way is the best one can ask from society.

I'll take a look into those books.

Mate, do you think a few business cards while i'm at work (retail for now) is a good idea? I offer a specific trade, and I have a feeling I can get a lot of business, provided my prices and service are good, which they are.

The plan is when black Friday comes around, a few thousand people will come around, and this should be a good opportunity.

How can I approach them without having the card dumped in the trash?

Thanks again!
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>>712486163
Again, is of joke. No one care what you say about this, because it is of joke, tovarish. We will keep of makings this joke because it is funny to us.
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>>712486074
I know its horrible that you have to go back, we will truly miss you
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>>712473715
"Anything to protect the constitution"


>Libel Laws
>No Fly No Buy
>Reinstate torture

LMAO
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>>712486312
>fuck you, commie american
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Long live Stalin
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>>712486332
I don't live in your shit country. But if this story is true, police officers who don't do their job anymore because of political preferences, is one way to fashism.
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>>712484060
saved
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>>712486463
Love how your response to legitimate arguments that counteract any sense of conservatism carried by the cunt by saying he can't be stumped. I'm not trying to stump him, I want answers.
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>>712486399
I say have good life and that I hope that your family lives well and are happy also, tovarish. Maybe one day our struggle to exist will end, and then we may be able not to be of the retarded to each other. It will be glorious day.
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>>712486463
>>712486582

this red bastard has a legitimate question that you should answer

if youre a constitutionalist, you should already know the appropriate answer to this faggot piece of shit

he got you on this one /b/ro
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