The electoral college delegates could still decide to elect Hillary instead of trump. Not likely to happen, but it's still possible. They were given that power for reasons just like what happens in this election and Gore vs Bush.
>>711718062
They would have to show cause. And no, "because he's an idiot and a racist" is not an argument, no matter how many times you say it.
>>711718062
I say good luck, but it's not gonna happen.
>>711718062
And unicorns might learn to fly
They're not that stupid, they would be lynched for doing that and we might actually have a real civil war on our hands.
>>711718062
>>>/pol/
GTFO with this shit and into yyur own containment board. /b/ is for traps and other faggotry
>>711718062
>Gore vs Bush.
The supreme court decided Gore v Bush, dipshit.
>>711718269
more people voted for Hillary than Trump which is more than adequate cause. I could also go into specific 1st amendment violations he plans to commit. But we can leave it at the numbers for now.
>>711718638
irrelevant to this conversation since the electoral college ultimately elects the president, not the people.
>>711718593
>>711718700
>1st amendment violations he plans to commit
We thought police now?
>>711718700
>more people voted for Hillary than Trump which is more than adequate cause
No it isnt. We dont decide elections by popular vote for a reason. It gives populus states/cities too much power.
>>711719000
>>711718700
>>711719007
Trips
Dubs
Secret agent
Checked
>>711719012
in a nutshell, his campaign promises will violate freedom of religion and freedom of press. Look it up.
>>711718700
take 3 million illegal votes away from Hillary and your statement is wrong.
Trump won the popular vote
>>711718062
They cant, Hilldawg conceded.
>>711719132
Oh I agree on that point. But in this election rationality seemed to me irrelevant, so anything could happen.
>>711718062
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IuJGHuIkzY
You shills are like insects.
>>711718700
No, Trump won the popular vote too after all the votes were finally tallied up. He won in every sense of the word, get over it.
>>711719704
What are you on about? They haven't even done a full tally yet. As it stands Clinton is up by one million votes.
>>711719903
>bullshit
Saying dumb and incorrect shit doesn't make it true.
>>711719425
you would have to prove that. verifiable facts do matter.
>>711718269
They don't have to show cause. They can vote however they wish. They can be faithless electors if they want to be.
That said, even if enough of them did vote Hillary, remember that Congress has to approve the vote.
Congress is Republican controlled.
Show's over.
>>711719704
Total horseshit.
Clinton: 60,981,118
Trump: 60,350,241
More people voted for Clinton than they did for Trump.
http://www.snopes.com/2016/11/13/who-won-the-popular-vote/
>>711720261
>hur dur snopes is a legit source
the fuck is wrong with you Americans?
>>711720103
Being a moron on the internet doesn't mean you aren't one in real life.
>>711719704
uh, wrong. you cant just make shit up and hope it's true to fit your point. I know that how trump got elected but it's not going to work here. Clinton has more votes than trump by at least hundreds of thousands.
>>711720261
>snopes
>>711720386
just use Google: Clinton got more votes than Trump.
This is just a simple fact.
>>711720431
For your sake, lets hope that's not true.
>>711720558
>>711720587
not the ones that matter though :^)
>>711720578
How about a right wing source?
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2016/1112/Hillary-Clinton-widens-lead-in-popular-vote-but-does-it-matter
Clinton beat Trump in the popular vote.
>>711720558
>wrong.jpg
>Hundreds of thousands
Did it hurt pulling that out of your ass?
>>711720763
It's nearly 600 thousand more votes than Trump.
>>711720261
liberal propaganda
Trump won the popular vote by two million
>>711720587
How about:
Just Google: Trump got more votes than Clinton
lol, you're totally not a biased little fuck
>>711719518
Why do you people assume that matters? Bush conceded to Gore and still got elected.
>>711719704
Do you even Google?
>>711718269
>They would have to show cause.
No they don't.
And there is cause. Trump is a fucking time bomb.
>>711720867
Is this a liberal source?
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2016/1112/Hillary-Clinton-widens-lead-in-popular-vote-but-does-it-matter
Clinton won the popular vote.
>>711721049
It's only a million more. That isn't a majority.
>>711721018
its over cuck
you lost and it will never change
better luck next time
>>711720859
Keep pulling, you're almost there
>>711720930
I guess reality isn't your strong point...
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2016/1112/Hillary-Clinton-widens-lead-in-popular-vote-but-does-it-matter
>>711720386
Snopes isnt a source, it's a aggregation of sources. Stop being a faggot
>>711721018
>Bush conceded to Gore
no he didn't and you weren't even conceived when that happened
>>711721126
That's literally what majority means.
>>711721131
I wasn't complaining numb nuts. I was just letting you know how fucking dumb you are.
>>711721210
Yes he did.
>>711721049
>>711721078
Clinton still has the 3 million illegal immigrant votes that she isn't allowed to have. deduct them and he wins the popular vote as well.
>>711721126
It doesn't matter if it's a majority or not. The fact is that Clinton won the popular vote.
Winning the popular vote means nothing, though. It just means she managed to mobilize voters in areas that would have gone Red anyways.
It's poorly focused electioneering, but it doesn't make the numbers incorrect.
Clinton won the popular vote but the popular vote wasn't the goal. Trump only campaigned in the states he needed to, so the dark blue states of New York and California voted mainly Hillary. That's why she won the popular vote and that's why it also doesn't fucking matter.
>>711721297
yeah but it's just a million. There are so millions more of us.
>>711721321
No he fucking didn't. Bush was announced as the winner. Stop talking shit.
>>711718062
That's not why.
Jesus millennials are stupid.
>>711721321
Yes he fucking did. Google it dip shit.
>>711721078
if it comes to a recount and they exclude votes by illegals she loses by millions of votes
>>711721334
>Clinton still has the 3 million illegal immigrant votes
"Illegal" anything can't vote in national elections.
America really doesn't want it to happen. It throws shade on our elections. Trump supporters make for better armed rioters. We have to let Trump fuck up so his supporters will learn their lesson. 4 years of "I told you so" will damage the Rrpublican party beyond recognition.
>>711719425
>take 3 million illegal votes away from Hillary and your statement is wrong.
>Trump won the popular vote
Stupid Conspiracy Theorists are gonna stupid.
>>711718269
No they don't actually.
Jesus millennials are stupid.
>>711721335
Clinton winning the popular vote does mean something:
She wasn't a shitty candidate.
>>711721447
Illegals can't vote.
Idiot.
>>711721334
>linton still has the 3 million illegal immigrant votes that she isn't allowed to have. deduct them and he wins the popular vote as well.
This is why people hate you and think you are stupid.
#conspiracytards
Maybe if you can't pass the citizenship test you shouldn't get to vote. Seems like a good way to ensure we never have another Trump.
>>711721346
I don't think it matters if it's a million votes or one vote; the person with the most votes should win.
I'm sure the electoral college exists for a reason, but it just seems undemocratic to me.
>>711721534
California let millions of them vote
you're a selective retard
>>711721495
She was so shitty she got beaten by Donald Trump.
>>711721819
>California let millions of them vote
>you're a selective retard
DURR, BREITTARD TOLD ME SO...
>>711721819
Nope.
Only US citizens can vote in national elections.
>>711721820
She got beat by the smugger-than-thou liberals who stayed home, brah. Hope you weren't one of them.
>>711721817
The US government isnt a democracy. It is a democratic republic.
>>711718062 when she could see that the race is she officially ended it ain't no going back from that shit homeboy
>>711721817
We're a constitutional republic, this is how we do things. You cant change the rules just because some people dont like the guy that one.
>>711721877
winning/dubs checked
>>711718062
Fun fact. Trump may have actually gotten popular vote. Turns out over 3 million illegals voted, and most likely not for Trump.
>>711721495
She was, though. Through and through. She was propped up, supported strictly by the establishment, and failed to win against a candidate who had nothing but red flags against him.
To top it off, she had zero charisma. The DNC had a robot go against a sexist, bigotted candidate who had nothing but charisma. She was a poor choice.
The Dems just wanted to be the party that had the first black president and the first female president. They didn't care about the ramifications. So now we have Donald Trump for 4 years minimum.
You reap what you sow.
>>711722080
>>711721819
Source on this please?
>>711722012
Not that anon but the Electoral College doesn't work anymore. We need a direct popular vote system.
The electoral college requires an absolute majority, meaning that if enough conservative electors abstain, no one is elected and the vote goes to congress, who can then elect anyone they want to. They would then put an establishment Republican like Pence in charge. Am I wrong? Isn't this a more likely scenario, given that the majority of the electors are conservatives who wouldn't want Hillary elected?
>>711721475
>>711721694
>find out you're wrong
>it must be a conspiracy
fucking retard that can't handle the truth
>>711718062
You are fucking retarded and should kys.
A good deal of electors are bound by state law to be faithful to their constituents.
Faithless electors are in themselves a rarity and Don has already won by such a large margin that enough of them flipping is an impossibility. Liberals who actually think this has a chance of happening are delusional.
>>711722131
Just using simple math to btfo your argument.
You mean YOU and a bunch of idiots felt that way.
The reality is that Clinton was favored by institutions and people who wanted to continue living in a stable democracy.
We had our chance at political revolution this 4 years. Now you fuckers blew it up, and we aren't going to recover in our lifetimes.
>>711722012
You can change the rules for whatever reason you want, actually, if you can get a two thirds majority to agree with you. That's in the constitution. Also, the term "constitutional republic" does not imply undemocratic elections in any way.
>>711721912
they let you vote if you have a cali drivers licence
illegals can get cali drivers licence
>>711722331
I'm actually enjoying the delusion. It means even more salt will flow when he finally takes office.
I'd like to see it flipped if only for the reason that I'd get to call every person who ragged on the protesters a fucking hypocrite when they start burning shit in a fit of white rage.
>>711719310
Why? bc he said he'll ban Muslims? he retracted that statement and has thus said he'll just ban immigration from high terror zones so it doesn't matter if they're Muslim or not and removes the restriction on freedom of religion.
as for freedom of press I haven't heard any of that so can you please elaborate?
Apart from it being mathematically impossible to turn the vote against Trump and in favor of Clinton, there's still congress that has to approve it, and that my little liberal friends, will never happen.
So just go back to le reddit and circle jerk for the next four years about how morally superior you are.
According to the latest news, once all votes are counted Trump seems to have won both the popular and electoral votes.
Keep suckin it, Hillary shills.
>>711718062
Bush rigged the elections by hacking the Diebold electronic voting machines. Trump won his election fairly and the world must deal with it.
>>711722755
the protesters are fucking hypocrites because you can bet they were angry at the thought Trump wouldn't accept the results.
>>711722755
Yeah pretty sure a Republican 'protest' would go down a lot differently.
>>711722490
>they let you vote if you have a cali drivers licence
Not in national elections they don't.
>>711722399
>wahhhhh muh popular vote
If that shit mattered Hilary would've been president already. She had more popular votes than Obama in 2008. This country isnt determined by the popular vote thank god for that.
The electoral college is a fine system. It's built to be idiot proof.
>>711718550
real "civil war" over a guy that has less than the popular vote and was only selected by a quarter of Americans.
>>711718062
My girlfriend has started sleeping with a nigger since I told her I voted for Trump.
>>711723154
>. It's built to be idiot proof.
Evidently not.
>>711723154
Just still btfo the argument that Clinton was a "shitty candidate." Over 61 million people voted for her. More than Trump.
Trump sucked more according to our population.
Now, if 20 million more had voted for Clinton, even if they were holding their noses, we wouldn't have this shit.
Hillary clinton is such a fucking scum bag. You have to be seriously dull to give her any support.
Trump isnt a great option but hes miles ahead of her.
>>711723626
Yeah Trump is so miles ahead of Hillary he's shitting his pants trying to figure out who to put in his government.
faggot.
>>711721715
You must be trolling. Do you really think that's the people who put Trump in the white house?
>>711723275
Don't worry, he'll probably beat the living shit out of her soon enough.
>>711723440
She had the media, the establishment, the corporations, journalists, celebrities, politicians from other countries etc. with her.
And she still lost to a reality tv-star. How fucking lame is she? She'd do best to return to the kitchen and make Bill a sandwich.
>>711722399
Dude, I'm a Canadian who would have voted blue. I just wouldn't have proudly voted for Hillary. She's a hack and the DNC fucked up royally in selecting her as their candidate.
Being favoured by the establishment isn't a good thing. You want to be favoured by the people and that's generally done by pandering to your electorate's zeitgeist. This is why Trump won.
If you select candidates based solely on what institutions want, you lose touch with the people you're supposed to represent. Trump turned that around. He fed into ideas like despondency and job loss, the tiresome concept of white guilt, and the classical image of what America supposedly used to be.
There's a reason Bernie's support was as mobilized as it was. He was doing the same thing on the opposite side of the spectrum.
And speaking of hacks...
>>711723318
>>Evidently not.
burn!
I thought all you hillary cucks were moving to Canada?
Whats wrong? They dont have open borders?
>>711723758
More like how fucking lame were you, anon? And millions of other voters.
Go send Breitbart a bunch of money.
>>711720109
they don't and you know it
>>711723440
Do you inbreds really don't understand anything? Trump played the electral college game, not the popuilar vote. I understand it fits your silly narrative, but if it were up to the popular vote being the deciding factor, Trump would most likely have a very different strategy.
>>711723727
Id say hillary and her shills are doing the majority of pants shitting these days
>>711718062
>Pic related, Trump won it all.
>>711723727
>faggot.
Whoa there, don't let your progressive faggot friends see you typing these kinds of words. Wouldn't want them to think you're some kind of racist, sexist, homophobe, now would we?
>>711723857
I'm not even American, nor in America.
I'm just laughing my ass of at that bitch losing it all after working so hard for 30 years, having the support of basically everyone and then, at the very last second, have everything ripped away from her by pic related.
IT'S SO WONDERFUL!
>>711723758
Is there some way I can have the nigger who's sleeping with my gf now charged with rape or attempted rape?
>>711724090
Just call the cops and say a nigger is having sex, they'll figure out the rest.
>>711722331
Trump is set to receive 290 electoral votes, which means that in order for him not to get the 270 he needs, 21 must vote against him or abstain. Of those 290 electors, 172 are not required to vote faithfully by their state laws, including 38 from Texas, where he only got 27% of the vote in the Republican primary and where he got a lower percentage of the votes than any republican candidate has got since Bob Dole. He is among the least if not the least popular person ever to be elected to the presidency, and he lost the popular vote.
Unprecedented? Yes. Unlikely? Very. "Impossible? Aside from the fact that you are simply using that word improperly (since it would be technically possible even if Donald had got 100% of the popular vote, just unlikely), it is definitely slightly less unlikely this time than it has ever been before.
>>711721460
Id say the Hillary supporters have been doing a pretty good job of armed rioting.
>>711724239
Trump supporters actually have guns. Hillary supporters only have limp wrists and hashtags.
>>711722080
>Fun fact. Trump may
I don't think you know what a fact is. Which is probably why you voted for trump.
>>711721495
Winning the popular vote does not mean she wasnt a shitty candidate. They were both shitty candidates. Why they put Hillary and not Bernie up against Trump is beyond me.
>>711719132
>implying a state or city's electoral power shouldn't be proportionate to its population
Why the fuck shouldn't this be the case exactly? How does geography matter over population count?
>>711723928
The majority of American agree with Clinton's policies. Democrats simply didn't turn out to vote. That's why Trump won the electoral college. If Dems came out like they did in the previous 2 elections, Clinton would be president.
>>711723727
It's called job interviewing to find the right person for the job. Unlike Obama who grabbed any nignog like Van Jones. Or Hillary, who would grab any criminal that would do her bidding without question.
Its ok little snowflake...
>>711722920
He plans to restrict "dishonest " media. But hasn't really specified what he means by it. Could be simple libel laws, or could be prohibiting anything that goes against his or the Feds official narrative
I cant believe the amount of entitled whining thats coming out of the Clinton supporters. Absolute fucking cry babies.
The election rules haven't changed. Its always been through electoral college.
Just because your candidate didnt win does not give you the right to chuck a hissy fit.
You all act like you're so pro democracy and sooo pro social progress, yet your candidate legitimately loses, and you turn to rioting in the streets and even violence.
Its actually disgusting and you retards actually think you are right.
>>711724045
>posting info from a no-name news source by an anonymous author with no citation
>I saw it on the Internet, so it must be true!
>>711718550
>we might actually have a real civil war on our hands.
I for one can't wait! The unproductives & undesirables Got - to - go!
with
Rinse Prebus as Chief Of Staff, it's gonna be another Bush/RNC lame-o 4-year term
>>711723759
Clinton had a good political platform that would have kept this country moving along and away from the hard political right.
>If you select candidates based solely on what institutions want
Didn't say we did. I said that institutions like labor unions, teachers, some of the most respected members of Congress and others all endorsed Clinton.
I would have preferred Sanders, but he got bumped and Clinton was the choice.
I got the clue, a lot of people didn't.
>>711724547
Again. Most Clinton supporters accept the results. It's mostly the Bernie types, and various Socialists and Anarchists who are the ones actually doing something
>>711722920
>as for freedom of press I haven't heard any of that so can you please elaborate?
he wants to "open up libel laws" so he can sue people for reporting bad things about him. Not a negation of the first amendment, I agree, but it certainly weakens it.
>>711724713
This. And I hate Hillary by the way but at the end of the day she was the only call that made sense in the general. I too wanted Sanders.
>>711723928
Maybe so. But the sheer numbers suggest Clinton does not fit the "shitty candidate" narrative. That's my point.
>>711722146
We have a party popular vote in Australia, believe me it doesnt make things better, just google Tony abbot and realise that Trump isnt the worst option.
>>711721018
Other way around dumbass
>>711724003
Trump very much has the Deer in the Headlights look. Don't kid yourself.
>>711724488
The eastern and western seaboards along with what you see on TV may agree with Clinton's policies. The rest of the country does not.
>>711724080
yeah but you probably are a closeted faggot who agrees with Pence.
>>711720261
You know there was a large number of illegal votes as well as dead puddle voting in those numbers right?
We're actually ahead by a couple million.
>>711723626
I would never say Hillary was great. It's just that Trump won based on a fear fueled campaign where actual verifiable facts did not matter. Half of us (a little more than half actually) didn't fall for it. Sure, Hillary lied. But if you actually check the facts yourself, you'll find that Trump lied roughly twice as often. Pretty blatantly in many cases.
>>711724080
>I'm not even American,
good
at least you weren't allowed to pull the lever for Cheeto Jesus yourself
I'm sure some fat fuck had you covered
>>711724996
again.. majority.
>MFW Trump even agrees the electoral college is pull shit and popular vote should count
>>711724416
Bernie couldn't even get the message out to voters during the Primaries enough to win the nomination, so no.
>>711725357
>Trump won based on a fear fueled campaign
Did you ever listen to one of Trump's speeches? His campaign was full of hope and a better future. Hilary's was constant 'If you vote Trump we will all DIE'.
>>711725062
Where is your proof of that? Trump has you so wound up, you're just spouting off his bullshit. You've bought the London Bridge, and you're HAPPY about it.
>>711725569
Except that he did, though. He was cheated. Everyone knows this.
>>711724547
Except there have been two recent instances of candidates winning by popular vote and not the Election.
And you can bet as soon as a liberal administration gets in there again, there's going to be a Constitutional Amendment proposed repeal the EC.
>>711719518
Conceding doesn't matter. If the electoral college elects her, (not likely, I know) she wins the presidency. ...unless she decides at that point not to accept it.
>>711725808
probably not... but you can hope.
Trump's also not a fan of the EC, so you have just as much shot of getting rid of it under his administration.
>>711725449
again.. still wrong.
>>711724875
Well yeah, what do I want? My political revolution to take a few more years with Clinton in office?
or a slide into total fascism with Trump?
Seemed like a no-brainer to me. But I guess it kept a lot of people home
LOL
>>711725693
much like the illegal immigrant votes in California. Everyone knows this too.
>>711723257
No, real civil war over preservation of the democratic system.
>>711725543
>MFW i cant think for my self and realize a federation is different from a nation state, and there are arguments to be made for ether system that would focus its protection in different areas.
Trump can't do half the shit he said he's going to. He can't pull out of the nato deals and the climate change summits as the sanctions would out weigh the benefits
>>711725693
No he wasn't, fuckhead. Sanders lost the minority vote to Clinton during the primaries.
>>711725941
i doubt it.
>Clinton wins popular vote
>Democratic voters numbers are down from 2012 and 2008
>Republican numbers are basically flat for all three elections.
facts don't lie.
You're welcome to provide any you might find.
>>711725017
LOL
The butthurt has turned all the regressive leftists into homophobes.
Holy shit this victory is fucking fantastic!
>>711725371
Didn't need to, he still won.
Now why don't you go out and riot some more, monkeyboii :^)
>>711725915
wrong.
What the hell is wrong with yall? He won the electoral college. I voted hillary but ffs be an american. We arent a direct democracy. Otherwise california and new york wpuld be the o ly place youd need to campign.
Fuck i hate what liberals have become....seems like in jist the last 15 years.
Its all devolved.
>>711725940
Republicans benefit from the EC--and gerrymandering, too--so no, there won't be any chance of that happening, not the way the Party is whipping Trump into position.
>>711726004
>total fascism with Trump?
Ugh this meme. Trump has said you fags can still get married, dont worry.
>>711726004
>But I guess it kept a lot of people home
Exactly man. Both Trump and Sanders had voters who were excited as fuck to get their man into office. Clinton just had a bunch of reluctant lesser evil voters. It's a fucking tragedy she lost, but I wasn't surprised. I'm glad you voted for her, I think we did the right thing, but I knew there would be others who wouldn't.
>>711726091
I'm not advocating one over the other. I'm merely pointing out the irony of Trump supporters arguing for the electoral college while advocates the popular vote...
>>711725357
I completely disagree.
There is no actual evidence that trump actually did anything illegal. (Before you say the sexual assault charges, none of them have been substantiated, and probably never will be).
Said some questionable things? For sure. Acted like a douche in the past? Definitely. Who the fuck hasn't.
Hillary on the other hand is totally corrupt, and is responsible for the deaths of many people.
Despite what the establishment claims (because lets face it, all of these people in positions of power are all sucking each other off anyway).
The e-mails taken from her private server show that shes committed treason, had under hand and illegal deals with many people. And the amount of suspicious deaths surrounding her is mind boggling.
New evidence is even coming out that shes involved in child sex trafficking.
Shes corrupt as they come and im certain if there secret videos taken of her, they would be a billion times worse than anything trump has done.
>>711726195
yeah sorry that free thought and expression are so repugnant to you
And faggots like you never reveal what country they're from. Ever. Funny how that's such a consistency.
>>711726308
Actually, Trump's ideology is fascist by his own words, and he is inviting fascists to be in his government. Not a meme. Reality.
>>711726328
Wired. Its almost as if Trump is not a reveler of truth, but rather a person, with an opinion. And trump supporters are other people with their own opinion.
But that cant be true. Thats what the jews want you to think.
>>711726308
Really? 'cause he's said they can't, too.
http://www.hrc.org/2016RepublicanFacts/donald-trump-opposes-nationwide-marriage-equality
Which position do you think he'll actually take? He seems to say everything all while saying nothing.
>>711725543
because if the popular vote took control, then very few states would have near total control of the nation.
that's a bad, bad thing to have. this is especially true because california is full of fucking retards that can barely handle driving.
>>711725596
>Did you ever listen to one of Trump's speeches?
many of them. Trump's speeches were done to make people afraid of china taking our jobs and making up climate change, mexicans for bringing in murderers and rapists, muslims for bringing in terrorists.
Hillary's campaign said the only thing to fear is a trump presidency, because he does not operate on facts.
>>711726317
Clinton would have been a continuation of the Obama administration. They were just starting to get some shit together. I don't know what people were thinking was going to be better than that.
>>711724537
okay well I can't support that. I think every side deserves their news outlet that tells them what they wish to hear as long as it's true and not construed. I'm fine with cherry picking (it makes destroying them so much better) but once it twists people's words that's where I'll draw the line
>>711726474
>Trump's ideology is fascist by his own words
Source on that?
>>711726584
In his 60 Minutes interview he said 'It's done. It's been decided, and I'm fine with it.'
>>711724388
Well ive seen those limp wrists doing a pretty good job of bashing old white men on the assumption they voted trump.
>>711726338
>free thought
LOL you should practice what you preach
And I'm from Sweden. Where did that argument even come from? :P
Anyway, it's time to hit the bed. Unlike you rioting losers I have a job to go to :^)
>>711726329
>totally corrupt
Your rhetoric is showing.
waiting for the obligatory "lock her up" chant.
>>711726666
Everything Trump got elected on is fascist-based: government relationship with business, rounding up suspected enemies of the state, misogyny, treating people like 2nd class citizens.
Is this your first experience with politics? lol
>>711726783
You should be so lucky you live in a stable democracy and some dipshit isn't trying to clean up your country. But you sound like you'd be an easy mark for that shit, anon.
>>711726606
>mexicans for bringing in murderers and rapists, muslims for bringing in terrorists.
These things are a reality of the world we live in. It was refreshing to hear someone speak the truth.
>>711726221
Conservatives have also gone through sort of a dumbing down in the same period. This past election is a result of both parties pandering to the lowest common denominators of their voting base.
>>711726329
Not to mention her entire Clinton foundation turned out to be a massive scam.
She stole billions of dollars from donaters, and gave almost nothing to the people affected by the disaster in Haiti.
She most likely spent it on propaganda for her presidential campaign.
>>711726761
Just wait for the next interview where he says he's not fine with it. The man panders to his audience.
>mfw democrats want to get rid of the only things that stops them from having full control
New York and California are liberal breeding grounds, and those two states also happen to have the highest population out of the entire country. To get rid of the Electoral College is handing the country over to the democrats entirely, because there's no way New York or California will EVER go red or EVER give Republicans a chance.
Funny how Clinton supporters want to get rid of the one thing that stops them from having their way, when it's been in place far longer than they've been on this fucking planet.
The Electoral College served its purpose during Bush vs. Gore, and it will continue to serve its purpose here. You liberals who are new to politics may have a hard time understanding this, but the Electoral College is there to STOP people from gaining total control of the population.
>people don't vote because their state goes the opposite color! this is flawed!
Try imagining a country where people don't vote because the entire country is one color due to fucking New York and California. Fuck that, that's not America, and you left wing crybabies can fucking blow me
>>711726329
My response is...
verified sources?
This is why people voted for trump. They don't understand what qualifies as "fact"
>>711726977
>muh talking points
thanks for parroting crap that got Trump elected faggot
The People have direct representation in the House of Representatives, the States (and thus indirectly The People, as state citizens) in the Senate and, previously, the presidency. Now they have indirect vote for the presidency, as citizens of their states.
There is no national election of anything in the United States. United...States.
Trump won the fucking election, get over it. Your millenial wishing game is not going to work. Face facts, Rick Santorum could be president before hillary.
>>711726849
>rounding up suspected enemies of the state, misogyny, treating people like 2nd class citizens.
You're talking bullshit.
>>711727042
>New York and California are liberal breeding grounds, and those two states also happen to have the highest population out of the entire country. To get rid of the Electoral College is handing the country over to the democrats entirely, because there's no way New York or California will EVER go red or EVER give Republicans a chance.
oh this crap fucking argument again
LOL
>
The Electoral College served its purpose during Bush vs. Gore
no it didn't fuckwad
it was a blatant example of how the people did not elect GWB
> it will continue to serve its purpose here
to show that the people did not elect Donald Trump
We need to go to a system of DIRECT POPULAR VOTE
>>711726981
The election is over, why would he need to pander to anyone? And that's funny considering Hilary spent her whole campaign pandering to everyone.
>>711718062
Before they vote for Hillary, they'll vote for Pence
>>711726761
He also said in the same interview that if Roe v Wade were to be overturned, women would have to move to another state. Kind of an moronic to say one SC decision is indisputable and another isn't, don't you think?
>>711727180
Trump wanted to round up Mexicans and Muslims. The intent was there in his remarks.
Trump was confronted with his sexism as well.
So yeah, fascist. This must be your first election.
>>711726131
I don't doubt it. And it wasn't just Republican numbers...
Facts you say, here's one: Trump won the majority of Electoral Votes.
>>711725569
The DNC were shown to be colluding with Clinton during the primaries, i think a fair race would have made alot of difference.
>>711727086
This guy gets it. Everyone else is a child.
>>711726783
>Sweden
>>711726574
If they think for themselves, they wouldn't have blindly followed his rhetoric as he conned his way into office. It's been less than a week and he's already backtracked on multiple promises. And I don't want to hear any crap about "compromise". People loved him vecause they thought he was stern and would follow through. Especially in prosecuting Hillary.
>>711726847
If people knew the actual extent of the crimes shes committed, she would be dragged through the streets like a certain african leader she helped depose.
>>711727366
>Trump wanted to round up Mexicans and Muslims.
No you idiot he wanted to round up illegals and restrict immigration from dangerous Muslim countries.
>>711727065
thank you.gif
>>711727241
>We need to go to a system of DIRECT POPULAR VOTE
How is it so hard to understand that direct popular vote means democratic rule ten times out of ten? A system based off of strictly popular vote comes down to New York and California only, and you didn't even provide an argument against that. You know what's wrong for what you're pushing, yet you're doing it anyway because it's in your favor. That's not what this country was founded on, and that's not what this country will bend for just because you're experiencing this for the first time. Your whining will NOT change the foundation of this country, so fucking quit it
The witch is dead
>>711727326
He's pro-life, that's why he talked about over turning Roe v Wade. He doesnt care if gays get married, so he's living it alone.
>>711727086
That is not a reason to oppose a Direct Popular Vote.
Stop talking shit.
>>711718550
Degenerates vs deplorables. Nice.
>>711727534
leaving*
>>711726958
reality?
here's some reality for you about the "wall"
most illegal immigrants got here by plane. How high is this wall suppose to be?
Trump doesn't deal with realities. If he did, he wouldn't think of suggesting, at any time, that tracking all muslims in america is a good idea when 99.999% of them are law abiding people.
I don't care if he retracted that statement later. It's deeply disturbing that he would think to say it at all.
>>711727074
Thanks for proving that Clinton supporters are as bigoted as they say the people they hate are.
>>711727457
>They think differently from me, therefor they are sheep.
How is first year of collage treating you, kid?
>>711727395
There is literally no evidence the Primaries were "unfair."
Sanders lost because he couldn't reach the people who would have benefited the most from his policies--minorities.
It's really stupid to imagine what Sanders would have done.
>>711727658
>most illegal immigrants got here by plane.
Not the dangerous ones dumbass. Which is who we want to get rid off first and foremost.
>>711727291
Good argument, I remember when I made it.
He still needs the republican congress to get anything through. He has no experience, so he'll need help. He's changed his views so much I won't be surprised if he's the biggest cuck president ever.
go to google, search "3 millions illegals vote"
wow that was really hard!!!
>>711727462
You mean the assassinations, colluding with ISIS, bringing Sharia Law into the US, and other bullshit that makes its way into every conservative Facebook meme nowadays?. Sorry to say bud, but the only crime committed was storing classified emails on a private server, and if you want her locked up for that, you're going to have to lock up a lot more people for doing the EXACT SAME THING, such as Mitt Romney, George W, Sarah Palin, and even good old Mike Pence.
>>711727467
You're splitting hairs. He still wanted to round up people who fit both descriptions. And no, he said "All Muslim Travel."
And the Republicans stopped it, not Trump. Which means Trump is politically right of the already politically far-right.
Do the fucking math. Trump is right-wing af.
>>711727366
>This must be your first election.
This must be your first day on this planet if you think America is going to suddenly turn into a legit Fascist state just because a womanizer is in charge.
>>711727750
>He's changed his views so much
yeah he's changing the country too starting with the deportation of 3 million illegals, suck it fag
>>711727707
>collage
Top Kek anon. Also, I didn't say think differently from me. I said they don't think at all.
>>711727880
i think all these people that are mad are gonna get deported, its the only way they could have maintained a temper tantrum for an entire week now.
>>711727485
>How is it so hard to understand that direct popular vote means democratic rule ten times out of ten
Because it's bullshit. Cities make up a small portion of the overall population.
You just want your stupid rural fuckwads to dictate policy in this country. We don't.
>>711727462
do you know anything more than the "people?"
If so, you should bring this evidence to the many prosecutors that have been trying to bring her down for decades. All of them failed.
Or maybe the entire system is corrupted to prop her up, and everyone trying to prosecute her for her "crimes" is either on the payroll or inept, right?
>>711727065
Yet every attack thrown at trump was unsubstantiated "fact"
>>711727241
Thank God our fore fathers saw the shit in people's brains like yours and added the Electoral College. Pure Democracy can be manipulated way to easy that's why we have this system.
You little snowflakes are so butt-hurt you can't even accept that you lost. I'm done, unlike you I have work tomorrow. I'll be sure and wear my safety pin for all of you!
>>711727854
>He still wanted to round up people who fit both descriptions.
When the fuck did Trump say he was going to round up all Mexicans and Muslims? And duh, of course he's right wing. But that doesnt mean he's going to be a fascist dictator who starts ethnically cleansing the country.
>>711727956
>Cities make up a small portion of the overall population
being this fucking retarded and in-denial. you clintonfags make it an art
>>711728005
Most of the shit people used against Trump was his own speeches, tweets, and interviews.
>>711727485
>Your whining will NOT change the foundation of this country, so fucking quit it
Actually no, "whining" has produced direct popular vote for Senators, repeal of Prohibition and term limits for the Executive Branch.
And they say liberals are the only ones who argue from emotion. That's what you're doing.
>>711727749
really? I can think of a handful of dangerous ones from 2001 that got here by plane. It was even in the news.
>Hillary won the 2008 pres election's popular vote while Obama won the electoral vote
>No nation wide fires and vandalism
>Hillary won the 2016 pres election's popular vote while Trump won the electoral vote
>TRUMP WILL RUIN THIS COUNTRY IM SCARED GUYS IM FUCKING SCARED I WILL LITERALLY KILL MYSELF IM GOING OUT TO BURN AND FIGHT AND LOOT
>RACIST HOMOPHOBE SEXIST HITLER NAZI SATANIC DOG EATING TURD MAN FUCK OFF
>IT WAS HILLARY'S TURN
>SHE IS A WOMAN???? VOTE FOR HER????????????????????????????????????
>I COULD ONLY SLEEP FOR 2 HOURS LAST NIGHT BOOO HOOOOOOOOOO
Worse than Black Lives Matter tbh.
>>711724462
Concentration of crop fields/grazing for ranches/factories/natural resources. The midwest (which largely voted Trump) sustains and feeds the country for the most part. Population centers don't do this. It's just a way for people that contribute as much or more to the welfare of the country have as much of a say in who runs it.
>>711727667
>durr liburuls are the real raysists
kek
>>711727880
until he decides not to...
you think he'll follow through with any of his bullshit?
Probably not.
>>711728145
If this was a joke; kek. If you're serious; die.
>>711727860
>America is going to suddenly turn into a legit Fascist state
Given Trump's ideology, temperament and choices in filling the roles in his administration, that's exactly what's happening.
And you're partially to blame for it.
>>711728140
Whining won't get rid of the only thing stopping democrats from controlling office entirely, sorry to break it to you fag
your brainwashing and media persuasion that prey on the two states with the highest population can only go so far, and the Electoral College is where it stops and falls flat
>>711727880
wall? nope
deportation? no more than Obama
muslims? let-em in!
ISIS? still around in 4, maybe even stronger
jobs? nope
economy? nope
The man will get nothing done.
>>711728023
You seem pretty mad that outdated systems like the Electoral College are being challenged by an educated populace, anon.
What Red State shithole do you live in anon?
LOL
>>711718062
Oh, FFS, Florida 2000 AGAIN???
It's been 16 years. Walk it off. THREE recounts still showed Bush won, so the democrats took it to court, demanding another recount in certain counties, but not in others. The Florida supreme court decided you could not change election law during the election and said the THREE RECOUNTS stood. Bush won the state.
Democrats are horrible losers. Not a shred of grace in them.
And, no- the Electoral College will not randomly pick a different President. Stop pipe dreaming.
Oh yeah- it seems up to 3 million Hillary votes were by illegal aliens. Trump won the popular vote, too.
STOP CRYING.
>>711728000
A whole bunch of FBI agents that tried to take her down were just either "let go" or found dead.
This shit is deep man, people dont seem to realise that. They think these people with billions or trillions of dollars don't do anything with their money. They just sit on their couch letting the lower class plebs run the world.
Yeah fucking right. If you had that much money to do whatever the fuck you want, you would be manipulating politics too.
>>711728005
Like all those times where he said "I did not say that" and then there's a clip of him actually saying it. MANY examples of this out there.
Is it that you don't understand or just don't care what an actual fact is?
>>711728128
Your argument is shit. You have literally no evidence to suggest that any center of population would dominate in an direct democratic election.
>>711727534
What the fuck does his beliefs have to do with anything? If you overturn one decision, you can overturn them all. Also, have you ever heard of Mike "electrocute the gays" Pence?
>>711728405
everybody trust anon clearly he can predict the entire administration of a president
you people are fucking ridiculous and retarded, it's a good thing you keep your mouth shut when you aren't behind the screen
>>711728138
That was also the shit people cared the least about.
The most damage done to him was when those 12 women accused him of assault.
None of those accusations were ever close to being proven.
>>711728304
>>711727860
You know what, fuck you both. This country needs a bit of strong leadership. If it takes a bit of fascism to stop the rot and make sure the next generation is stronger than pathetic millenials, then so be it.
>>711728398
Yeah now it's going to be hard to eliminate the Electoral College since faggots like you put the Orange Man into office.
Maybe in 50 years, but it's going to go, probably along with gerrymandering.
Thanks for fucking this country's chances of it happening sooner faggot.
>>711728418
Yes, creating the electoral college to prevent large population centers (like California and New York) from deciding every election is so short-sighted. Archaic, I say! because why NOT prevent every state from having a say! They're just "fly-over" states! Fuck that whole "Democrats embrace diverse ideas", ONLY OUR OPINIONS MATTER, YOU SEXIST, RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC CIS-HET SCUM!!!
>>711728405
Just Like Obama, except he had 8 years. Oh wait, he got something done. More debt then EVERY FUCKING PRESIDENT COMBINED.
>>711728490
>What the fuck does his beliefs have to do with anything?
Because he's not going to waste time over turning Supreme court rulers he doesnt give a fuck about. And Pence is just his assassination insurance.
>>711728421
>Oh yeah- it seems up to 3 million Hillary votes were by illegal aliens. Trump won the popular vote, too.
again, evidence?
>>711728161
Each individual one of them should have as much electoral power as each individual city dweller. But not more.
