Its crazy how just like post WW2 Germany the USA is right now.
Hitler won because the Germans wanted change and he blamed the Jews.
Trump won because the Americans wanted change and he blamed the muslims, mexicans and other minorities.
Hitler started WW2 and Trump will probably start WW3.
Good job.
Ps; before you start attacking me just sit still for a couple of minutes and give what I said some thought. Dont look at all the smaller differences look at the bigger picture.
Fairly certain, judging from international policies they wanted to go for, Clinton was wayyyy more likely to start WW3
>>711450008
I agree, both choices would end up in disaster
>>711449882
I see that the American education is still at its peak.....
>>711449882
modern usa is nothing like post WWI germany you uneducated libfag
>>711450133
I am an European
>>711449882
Fuck off
>>711450178
Sure you are bud, you dont have to be sorry for being American right now
For everyone in this thread, im not american and dont care about your politics at all, i dont even know the real difference between republican and democrat.
So before you start saying hurr durr hillary or neoliberalism or other things. I dont care about any of that. All I saw was how trump did his campaign and how the americans reacted and it felt extremely similar to how Hitler run his campign and how thr german people reacted.
>>711449882
If you look at the bigger picture, you would realize the context of both nations, leaders, and societies are completely different.
You are comparing the similarities of the variables, without comparing the path the variables took to get there.
Go learn about path dependency in complex adaptive systems.
Stop and really think about that before you start panicking about world events and pretending one situation is just like another.
>>711450360
You do know that Hitler made his country great again after ww1
>>711450223
I would be sorry for being an american even eay before trump, your country is in my eyes the weirdest fucking country in the world.
And Japan exists.
The jews started a bloody civil war in 1918/1919, killing millions of germans. They do not teach you about this holocaust in school. This is what made the germans deport the jews. You are uneducated and ignorant.
>>711450360
to be fair, there is no actual difference between the red and blue parties anymore other than how honest they are about their authoritarianism
"would you like it packaged as feel-good 'cupcake fascism' with the left? Or do want them to just pull away the curtains and show you what they're really about? Either way we're bombing the FUCK out of some brown people.
>>711449882
>post WW2
>Hitler won
Mandela Effect?
>>711450573
And typically in America the red party is the less authoritative
>>711450450
Im not panicking and yes I admit im not an expert. But since when did you have to be an expert to have a thought about something?
I did study history so I know there are obvious similarities between the two. If you dont see them then it is because you dont want to see them.
>>711450360
>im not american and dont care about your politics at all
than why are you making retard assumptions. For all I know, Trumps politics were and still are less likely to cause WW3 (maybe civil war, but we can thank black lives matter and crazy sjw)
i can smell this bait from the shitty side of 4chan
>>711449882
Look up the fourth turning. Ww3 is inevitable don't blame trump just accept it.
>>711449882
Hitler didnt srart WW2. France did. Blame the surrender monkeys
>>711450484
Iknow. He was a great leader and did many good things for germany. Besides the obvious bad things ofcourse
>>711449882
Are you fucking retarded, hitler wasn't elected by the people, Hitler's platform ran on hating jews not illegal immigration. Trump hasn't said anything racist, sexist and has completely run his campaign on inclusion and safety of all AMERICANS not illegals and terrorists. The vast majority of the US's population also resonated with this message because it was one of hope and a change from the aggressive identity politics and the actual fascism bred from it.
All I've gotta say is you guys need to be careful and avoid becoming the SA. Hitler organized the night of the long knives to appease the military, which feared the SA's antics. Trump won't hesitate to sacrifice his supporters, now he will play the fear of them against other power brokers.
>>711450610
bahaha, didn't catch that til now, thank you xD
>>711449882
Not gonna lie here, I don't care
>>711449882
>Its crazy how just like post WW2 Germany the USA is right now.
>Hitler won because the Germans wanted change and he blamed the Jews.
>Trump won because the Americans wanted change and he blamed the muslims, mexicans and other minorities.
>Hitler started WW2 and Trump will probably start WW3.
>Good job.
>Ps; before you start attacking me just sit still for a couple of minutes and give what I said some thought. Dont look at all the smaller differences look at the bigger picture.
With the difference that Trump is a president and Hitler was a dictator and Hitler was socialist and Trump believe in free market, and the germans historically are useful idiots easely manipulated by the mass media.
>>711450076
Yeah like the majority of those fags protesting aren't socialists and communists whining they couldn't take control of people's lives and tell them what to do because they're better at it. Sftu socialists are narcissistic cunts who are just as retarded as the regressive left.
>>711450737
France won more wars than the USA
>>711450545
Where did you get this from?
>>711450756
And yet he is only know for "killing" 6 gazillion jews eh?
The history we are getting learned is super biased
>History is written by the victors - Winston Churchill
>>711450660
>You are comparing the similarities of the variables
>i studied history...
you had one job
"Post WWII"? Do you even know what that term means, you dumb fuck? Apparently not.
>>711450656
well it's SUPPOSED to be the less authoritative at least, until they evolved into this weird new conservative thing that is more worried about pushing their weird theocracy thing instead of just economic liberty like "republicans' used to be about.
Libertarians are closer to what "republican" is supposed to mean nowadays :/
>>711449882
What the fuck.. go back to fucking tumblr with this shit.
Everyday its hurdur Donald Trump.
He won over.
Go complain somewhere else fag
>>711449882
nice b8
trump won because hillary wanted a no fly zone that would pressure wwiii with russia.
>he is literally hitler!!!!!!!
i wish he was
>>711450545
Glad somebody said it.
Hitler did nothing wrong
Actually its like pre nazi germany, jews are paying to stage riots, the same smearing campaign Hitler went to, this will destabilize the country
If Trump retaliates he will be blamed of everything just like Hitler. If he doesnt niggers will keep pushing this narrative until whites hit back. Its Just a matter of time, you played into this mans hands, civil war is Just around the corner and whites will be blamed of everything even though they didnt start it, just like nazi germany
>>711450737
>Hitler didn't start WW2
>he just seized Danzig and the Polish Corridor
But then again, Hitler never would have gotten into power if it weren't for how badly Germany was screwed over by the post-WW1 sanctions and war debts, so you could sort of blame France from a certain point of view.
>blame the surrender monkeys
You mean the german merchant class who pressured the german government to quit WW1 and created the anti-jew atmosphere that enabled the Nazi party to come to power?
>>711450759
Wow, how delusional can you be?
There are recordings of trump being sexist and racists.
And hitler did rise to power through normal politics just like trump, he leaded the nazi party and only took over the ultimate seat of chancellor at the very end.
>>711449882
Good goy.
>>711450851
dat rhetoric, obviously well educated on both sides an not at all spouting propaganda
Yes because just like Germany, the US government does not have checks and balances and trump will get angry and press the big red button.
Just like trump is anti LGBT even though he said Trans people can use whatever bathroom they want.
Just like hes xenophobic, and doesn't want whats going on in Germany to happen in the united states. Have you seen what those sand niggers are doing in other countries?
would you like your school,s churches, and other public places suicide bombed? Are you so scared of being considered racist that you would ignore the fact that the Mexican drug cartel is a BILLION dollar organization.
I'm a black republican, and i saw this. Scientifically your IQ should be higher then mine. Democrats have made you stupid.
to all republican buddies when the civil war starts don't shoot the blacks with MAGA hats please
>>711450865
and fought more wars
and lost more wars too
Wanna know how I know you're an SJW?
Trump said "Radical Islamic Terrorists" and you hear "I hate Muslims"
He said "I want to deport the illegal mexicans, mexicans who are criminals" and you hear "I hate mexicans"
Try pulling your head out of your ass before you start talking, try using some critical thinking and open your fucking ears you ignorant faggot.
>>711450851
also, way to miss the point brah
>>711449882
Hitler was appointed, not elected.
Do you need a wheelbarrow filled with dollars to buy a loaf of bread?
I know you don't, but lets imagine you had to, you think Trump would be able to do anything about it?
>>711450810
1. Hitler was democratically elected.
2. Once Hitler started announcing his policies, all the actual socialists left the Nazi party. Nazis were socialist in name only.
>>711451009
Pre*
Give a man a fucking break you know what I meant by reading the fucking context
>>711450097
no he's saying that hillary is the disaster because of her policies, not "both"
>>711451062
You lost all credibility at "leaded"
Actually the British started WWII so yeah.
>>711451144
France lost dignified wars, usa lost from farmers in the jungle.
Why are the shillary faggots still around? Are they balls deep in denial or just retarded?
You lost, get over it, no one cares about your 'feels' and whining.
I thought the election was over.
These people are still getting paid 0.05 a post?
>>711451148
I acrually dont care about anything that is political correctness so I just stated it as I remembered it.
>>711451062
>Normal politics
It was 1930, Hitler pretty much cheated all the way until he was appointed as fürher, not elected, then he just went fucking ballistic
>>711451211
>>711451211
Hitler was democratically elected. Wiki some shit sometimes.
>>711449882
Baby's first lost election despite popular vote. Only difference is we dealt with it when gore lost. Millennials cant deal with losing its really sad
>>711451211
>Hitler was appointed, not elected
FALSE
>>711451539
Stated it as you remembered it? Well that's the problem with hearing what you want to or blindly believing what you've been told. Stop being a sheep, think for yourself and look at the facts.
>All these people trying to have an intelligent conversation
>spewing leftist propaganda without actually knowing the history of WWII
Almost had a decent thread on /b/
>>711451483
>Are they balls deep in denial or just retarded?
Well if you're asking me, the answer is "YES".
>>711451378
Oh are you one of thos; 'speak my language fluently or I wont talk to you' people?
Accept that there are more countries with their own languages.
English is not my first language but enlighten me; hoe many languages next to english can you speak fluently?
>>711449882
>Good job.
thanks i try my best
>IMPLYING THE HOLOCAUST EVEN HAPPENED
Keep an open mind and listen to this, jews owned the media in Germany too, Jews declared war to germany inb1933 yet the nazis didnt do anything till 1939
Who owned the media back then? Jews
Who threatened their way of running the world with a better economical system? Hitler
Who currently owns the media and around 85% of the worlds economy? Jews
Who is currently threatening their way of running the world? Trump
See the similarities? And jews are doing the same smearing campaign they did on Hitler, staging protests, faking hate crimes, the guy isnt even president yet, but he is being blamed for everything that is happening right now, Just like Hitler
If they lied about Trump, did they lie about Hitler?
https://youtu.be/s6StVNfcttc
>>711451601
Fucking read the threat, im not american and dont care about your politics.
I dont even know the real difference between democrat and republican except that they like to yell at each other.
>>711451499
Thats about what Trump thought minimum wage should be. But then he flip-flopped on that too.
>>711451594
>>711451661
>The german head of state Hindenburg appointed Hitler Chancellor only after he was reassured that the actual affairs of government would be run by the conservative Deutschnationale (German National) Party.
How stupid are you people?
>>711451545
>appointed as fürher, not elected
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/adolf-hitler-becomes-president-of-germany
On this day in 1934, Adolf Hitler, already chancellor, is also elected president of Germany in an unprecedented consolidation of power in the short history of the republic.
>>711451333
Thank you, although I wouldn't say either is "good," but Hillary was clearly evil incarnate.
If Trump actually follows through with a lot of the stuff he apparently has planned for his first 100 days though he will be absolutely fucking amazing. Hell, cutting down on lobbyists and implementing term-limits on congress alone will make me not give a fuck what he does for the next four years xD
>>711451821
>yet the nazis didnt do anything till 1939
Well...
>>711451667
You really think im gonna listen to your countries people trying to run for president like i give a shit?
Hell nah, stop thinking its always about you guys. I just made a statement about similarities and dont care about any of the candidates or who became president at all.
>>711451873
Do you stop reading after one sentence?
>1930 - lost election
>1933 - appointed chancellor
>1934 - ELECTED PRESIDENT
LOOK. IT. UP.
>>711450737
The British are to blame just as much as the Frogs are, if they didn't help fuck the Japs, I ties and Polish WW2 would of never of happened and if it did it would of been against the red scum.
>>711451057
>jews declare war in 1933
>made America put economical sanction on Germany
>its Germany's fault
>jews are gud boys, about to get their lives back on track
>DINDU NUFFIN
Lets get the shit started. If ww3 come hopefully the whole fucking earth is blown out of orbit. Better to die a fast death than a slow miserable on at the socialists hands.
Lena Dunham refuses to keep her election promise and move to Canada if Trump won. Lying manipulative bitch.
>>711450756
Except for killing 6 million Jews,
Causing a war high killed off more than 20 million people in total,
Almost destroying half of Europe in parts and the other half completely,
Leaving a generation full of PTSD
Causing the Cold War
>>711451217
>1. Hitler was democratically elected.
No, "legitimately" elected chancellor, I don't consider it democracy.
>Once Hitler started announcing his policies, all the actual socialists left the Nazi party. Nazis were socialist in name only.
Nazis were socialists in the way of managing the economy, they didn't believe in the free market, those that abandoned the party were the political socialists.
>>711449882
stupid
>>711449882
Trump and the american people who voted for trump wan the illegal mexicans (the ones who are breaking the law everyday who are here illgelly) to go back over the boarder and come back the right way by becoming a citizen and the muslim thing is that we are acecpting them without know if they are crimanls or terrorits.
>>711451975
I'm saying the assertions you made to base your comparison from are factually inaccurate and just wrong.
That's like me saying that you're like Hitler because you hate jews, you're a bigot and a racist, 'cause that's what I heard.
It's intellectually dishonest you and come off looking like a retard with no clue as to what you're talking about. You found a false premise and ran with it without even considering it's validity, it's the worst kind of dangerous stupidity.
>>711451835
Then why shit post about a country you dont know about.
>>711452168
chancellor != president
Read a fucking history book.
Or just read this post:
>>711452007
>>711452128
>Except for killing 6 million Jews
Annnnnnnnnnnd dropped, he didn't kill 6 million jews, the number was closer to 400k and most of those died due to Allied bombing of supply lines forcing the Germans to either feed prisoners or their dwindling troops and from Typhus - Fun fact Americans let even more "Jews" die during the camps after they had liberated them due to being afraid of the Typhus and if they over fed them since most of them were starving to death a sudden influx of food would kill them.
>>711449882
nigger
>>711452007
>Naziparty was elected
>Hitler was not
OP HERE!!
everybody in this thread listen, you all think im trying to say that trump was a bad choice, i was just implaying you think about the similarities. Thats fucking all. You guys get so defensive when trump is mentioned its ridiculous.
I wanted him to win over hillary as well.
Geesh, its like all of you have this automatic script installed that activates when trump is mentioned and you just type away in your keyboards frantically trying to defend your choices.
Is it impossible for americans to talk about something objectively??
>>711452376
>Republican Party was elected
>Trump was not
Do you really think that's how it works?
You think people who voted Nazi didn't know that the guy running the Nazi party would be in charge?
>>711450610
>>711450784
He is saying hitler won as in became chancellor, just like trump own meaning he became the president. He just worded it poorly lol
>>711452258
Actually I just asked you to think about the similarities I made.
>>711452636
>Is it impossible for americans to talk about something objectively??
YOU GO TO HELL.
YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE.
>>711452261
Its forbidden to discuss things then?
>>711449882
You're actually complimenting Trump, you do realize that, right? Here's a few things:
Trump and Hitler both lacked political experience. That's true.
After WW1, Germany was in shambles economically. Not only did Hitler make Germans proud of their country, he made outlandish promises like giving every family an affordable vehicle, (Volkswagon) and was pretty much able to deliver on it.
Secondly, he targeted the Jews because they were the majority of business owners in Germany and Poland at the time. Jews didn't trust banks, and tried to keep their money flowing through Jewish businesses, not necessarily German ones. Banks are important - they allow the government to utilize that money to create infrastructure and care for their people, and at the same time, allow the people of the nation to take out loans and create better situations for themselves. By retaining that money, Jews were detrimental to the economy in Germany.
The same issue is here, with Mexicans. Mexicans work here, don't put into social security, and typically send the money to Mexico for their families - therefore, that money doesn't stay in America, it doesn't go to banks, it doesn't help anyone here. It's a multi-million, probably in the billions, dollar worth of loss to the American people. As far as Muslims go, they're detrimental to society because their beliefs infringe on the rights of women, children, and people who aren't of their religion.
During Hitler's reign, he also created a country that loved and cherished art, protected it, sought it out. He created a cultured Germany. At the same time, he influenced archaeology, exploration, and the sciences. Because of WW2 Germany, the scientific world basically underwent a renewed Renaissance.
If Trump is capable of half of what Hitler was, we'll be on Mars by 2018. The scientific community won't be based in Europe - we'll be the leading, cutting edge of medical sciences, and so on.
Any questions?
Any more questions?
>>711451128
>the US government does not have checks and balances
Not with a red House, red Senate and red Supreme Court you fucking don't.
>>711452693
Hmm, is that the american way of agreeing?
>>711452290
It was i said:
"legitimately" elected chancellor ≠democratically elected
>>711452638
>Comparing 2016 america to 1930s Germany
>"IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME"
That was how it worked, Hitler was a spokesperson for a party, the party was chosen and elected by majority very fast, Hitler used his position to keep climbing by means illegal these days.
>>711452744
Its good that you gave it some serious thought, far better than everyone else here in this thread.
I wasnt implying anything good or bad at all I saw some similarities and wanted to point them out.
Dude how fucking stupid must you be. People are way to quick to compare Trump to Hitler. Hitler hated jews whilst Trump only knows jihadis are dangerous and he wants to protect his country.
If you are concerned about a war with russia than it would be the right decision to vote for Trump since Hilary wants a noflyzone in syria, remove Assad, attack Iran and generally she is very Russia hostile blamming them for everything without evidence.
Trump is very stupid and he loves himself to a stupid extent but he wants the best for america and his economic policies are superior to Clintons. He has way better foreign policy and Hilary clinton is 200% more immoral than Donald Trump. Look at Haiti.
She also has very bad decion. She also takes money from Saudi and Qatar who kill gays and women all the time. They are also blocading and bombing Yemen who are one of the poorest countries on earth.
Trump has better policies overall. He is stupid but Hilary is evil. Hilary is pro war for personnal benefits whilst Trump is anti war in comparison to that wicked bitch.
>>711449882
I won't even bother but comparing a man like Adolf Hitler and his brilliant staff with Trump and... yea, stop smoking that cheap weed it killed off most of your brain cells...
peace brother
>Trump is like hitler... cmon just think about it
>big picture
CTR or Carl the cuck, OP is the same autism.
>>711452693
And I told you what I thought about your "similarities", I think they are wrong based on objective reality and facts. I think you're irresponsible for not having looking into anything and perpetuation what is essentially propaganda conjured by social justice faggots.
>>711449882
Genocide during WW2. Autogenocide is their master plan, this time...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmF8Y9ZWzn4
>ITT: Actual Nazis
>>711453090
I wasnt trying to make it about if either trumo or hillary was a better choice.
And hitler also hated the jews out of love for his country. He thought they were the cause of the economic crisis and saw them living in mire riches than the rest of the german people did.
>>711452636
It's because of the libtards. People who supported him lost friends and families because they were giant babies and didn't accept people's political opinions.
>>711450178
That explains it then
>>711449882
We need war. Will be fun
>>711449882
I'll skip over the part where you said "post ww2" and assume you just meant "pre ww2" but you could not possibly be more incorrect about Hitler.
Pre-WW2 Hitler was actually extremely revered. The VAST majority of the country supported him and his ideas. He had a strong mandate to form a large military and he unified the country. His move into racism and a fascist state was very gradual. With the lack of TV and 24/7 news coverage many people did not even realize most of what he was doing until it was much too late.
He didn't really start to fall out of favor (that is to say people didn't really start to go "um...does anyone else think the Freurer is a little crazy?") until after the SS was formed and it was already illegal to say anything bad about the SS or Hitler and a strong fascist state was formed. At this point there was no turning back for the citizens.
P.S. Before he did all this he registered guns and had the SS go around door to door and collect them all so the citizens were unarmed.
Trump has done literally nothing except get on TV and say what he thinks is wrong and get a bunch of people wriled up. You have no idea what he will actually do and in reality, there isn't much that the republicans CAN do in 2-4 years that will be all that drastic w/o upsetting the apple cart.
The real issue is that the Democratic party has literally 0 strong leaders. The Clinton dynasty is dead. Bernie will be so old as to have a MAX of a single term in 4 years. There are not enough left wing people even IN politics to change anything. The Republicans have such a ridiculously deep bench that they're destined to keep control of most of the country for YEEEEEAAAARS. I'd get used to it.
>>711449882
russia has said trump victory have saved the world from ww3
>>711450360
O so you where there when Hitler won? How was he?
>>711453227
>Posting blind autistic assumptions
>>711449882
No WWIII. But I do believe that things are going to get Reagan-era shitty in terms of the economy. When you put the public sector in the hands of those from the private, not much good can come of it (again, talking economy).
With absolute retards like Sam Brownback in the cabinet, I'm more cynical about the economy than anything else.
>>711449882
Wow, that's some real in-depth reporting.
>>711452744
This.
>>711453327
Also, this.
>>711453386
>Hitler is won
>No
>>711451148
does not matter
>>711449882
uhh... have you not studied history?
World War II was a direct affect of the reparations forced on Germany by the allies post World War I. While Hitler did blame the minorities you're missing half of the story
>>711453399
>getting your jammies rustled for being called out
>>711453166
I actually came to the similarities without seeing any propaganda.
If you think im wrong then that is fine, nothing can be changed at this point anyway.
Im not american so what I think doesnt even matter regarding american politics yet everybody acts as if I need to see the light by shouting and calling names.
What happened with normal debate? Have we gone this far from the normal path that when someone brings up something the kind of reactions in this thread is whats used as 'debate' material?
How about people stop being so sensitive, and then im looking at you americans especially, and just go in for the conversation.
>>711451148
>He said "I want to deport the illegal mexicans,
no wall needed, his words have send a strong message
>>711453536
Yes, it does. This is just a bunch of dummies reacting to hearing what they wanted to hear or blindly listening to what they've been told.
I have no sympathy for the willfully ignorant.
>>711453536
Things seem to be getting better already
>>711449882
yep. Some needs to stop it now.
>>711453558
>Blind autistic assertions intensify
>>711449882
But we want this.
>>711449882
He is an isolationist. I guess only americans and immigrants are fucked, rest of us are gonna be OK.
There are a number of diffeences between those two time periods. One of the largest is how powerful the American economy is even if it's built on central banking bs.
Germany suffered hyperinflation leading to their currency being used in place of wood for heating their homes. The American economy might be built like a house of cards but it hasn't entered into hyperinflation at this moment.
What we're seeing is systemic of much larger problems, such as overpopulation.
At this point is anyone not "Basically Hitler"?
>>711453458
Oh please, both sides are full of adults with child-like minds who immediately throw tantrums when they don't get their way.
Bernie supporters, birthers, the endless gridlock in Congress because they didn't like the president, the 30 year witch hunt on Clinton, BLM, SJWs, Tea Partiers, the list goes on. Americans are all fucking whiny bitches with a gun fetish.
>>711449882
>post WW2
>pre WW2
Pick one you stupid CUNT
Wrong. I voted for Trump because Fuck Hillary.
>>711451217
The Germans have been political retards since Frederick II, and they didn't evolved much with the pass of ages.
>>711451062
Hitler was appointed by the people, but the people could have stopped him from attacking the jews and doin the fucked up shit that he was doin right??? But america came in after being forced into the war by japan then it came out what he was really doin....american didnt know cuz the goverment didnt want to be in the war so they didnt tell or let it come out to the american people what was really going on in nazi land but if trump start some dictator bull shit the same people who voted him in will end that shit
>>711449882
Do some americans honestly believe that Trump is gonna make the world think they are racist bigots?
Did these people forget the entire world already hated america before Trump showed up?
>>711453743
Feeling good about yourself eh?
>>711449882
OP, you and the rest of the libs who are creaming their pants over "Hitler" shit should do yourselves a favor and read "The Rise and Decline of the Third Reich". I think you'll find that 1930's Germany and 2016 United States are vastly different as are the people elected in each.
>>711453590
We're not children, if you can't handle a little name calling, you're not old enough or mature enough for real debating.
I have no ill will towards you, I'm just assertive and aggressive with debate and argument.
So, how did you come to thee similarities then? What EXACTLY did Donald Trump say or do that make you come to these conclusions? If and when you can't answer that, I ask that you at least take a moment to consider the implications of this.
>>711451148
This guy...i like this guy
>>711449882
https://www.change.org/p/u-s-senate-ignore-the-ignorant-petition-calling-for-the-electoral-college-to-make-clinton-president
>>711449882
so what's wrong with that? look at even bigger picture.
>>711453802
Im not american and dont even know what political standpoint 'lib' is.
>>711453608
Oh shit, lol, making America great again before he even gets into office. That's what I call impressive.
>>711449882
shit bait is shit
>>711453827
HE'S FUCKING A WHITE MALE
>>711449882
Learn your history you fucking moron you have maybe 2% of what you have said right.
Democratically elected
First world country
Major Christian following
Religious scapegoating
I see the similarities, but I feel that Hitler was far more logical and had more power than Trump. I don't realistically see Trump being able to do anything too drastic, and doubt that he'd manage to cause WW3.
>>711452636
There are none fuck tard you just want there to be some
>>711453802
Really good book actually. This anon knows what is up. Study some fucking history god damn it's good fro your brain.
Just so happens WWII has been shoved down my throat so much I became addicted to the history of that time period.
>>711453960
> had more power than Trump.
Trump as an individual may wield less power than Hitler did at the beginning. But the GOP definitely has more power now that the Nazis did.
>>711453929
Well, that IS true, no one can argue THAT fact
>>711454140
You think that the GOP now has more power than the Nazis did during WWII?
>>711450360
Funny thing is, I remember how people tried to compare Obama to Hitler when he first go elected. Putting his picture next to Hitler's and going on and on with their rhetoric, and how we should be weary of Obama, and blah blah blah. Now we have the same going on with Trump.
>>711451211
>Hitler was appointed
Do you even history nigger?!?
>>711453536
Yes its working bois
>>711454232
PreWWII
>>711449882
Noooooo..... You my friend are a paid LIAR.
Say- wasn't Hill's good friend George Soros a member of the Nazi party? Pretty sure he used to confiscate wealth from Jews and said he enjoyed doing so.
Where does the name "Rodham" come from?
Get fucked and die, please.
LITERALLY
>>711453827
First of all, real debating does not have name calling.
Then secondly how I came to these similarities;
I am dutch and all the info I came was through different mediums but all basically came down to trump getting a popular rise because he said what the country was thinking.
In his instance americans have been having immigrant problems for a long time and are now even letting syrian refugees into the country as immigrants without good checks even though all of america is on high alert because of terrorism. Mostly connectint terrorism to muslims or people from eastern Europe where all the refugees come from. So there was fear.
Trump played with that fear really smart, from what ive seen, because again; I admit I didnt follow the campaign I just saw it through different mediums. And yes I know a lot of the media is bias.
trump got elected. And now here are the similarities.
Hitler wanted to rise to power. He appealed to a lot of rich and powerful people for funding but to no avail. He started a political party and also started to play the popular game. He knew the country was in turmoil after the war and in economic crisis. His hatred for jews was exactly what was needed to create an national enemy on which germans could point their hatred for their current situation. He gained the popular vote by also using the fear of the germans and their situation and was democratically elected.
Any similarities after that are vague because trump has yet to show us what he will do.
So there you have it.
>>711453891
If you don't have that simple understanding, how could you possibly be able to compare this election cycle with post WWI Germany and Hitler and come to the conclusion that you did?
I'll tell you why: it's because you're a misguided and misinformed sad soul.
If Trump fucks things up, it will be different than Hitler. In so many fucking ways. You actually weaken your arguments against the sort of stuff he stands for by using the fucking Hitler comparison.
Fuck off please.
>Hitler wanted to actively pursue a policy of conquest to gain Lebensraum
>Trump wants to be isolationist more to get BETTER DEALS and AMERICAN STUFF MADE IN AMERICA
Unless he's going to start WW3 by provoking China to start gunboat diplomacy, I doubt it.
>>711453174
fuck you
>>711454140
Stfu Liberals are openly funded by George "Lets take from the middle classed jews" Soros. Half the motherfuckers ARE Nazi babies.
>>711454056
It is an excellent book. I've read it many times, although it's a difficult read for numerous reasons.
>>711454550
The similarities I made were a genuine thought.
>>711454721
Read the book and check back when you're done. I guarantee it will change your outlook on a great many things, including your unbending allegiance toward far left ideology.
>>711450810
Jesus fucking Christ, anyone with even the most cursory understanding of Nazi Germany knows that Hitler was NOT a socialist. The Nazis were National Socialists by NAME only; it was an oxymoronic, nonsense name used to galvanise support for the party when they were emergent in the Weimar Republic.
>>711454882
And before you accuse me of suggesting that the nazis were only far left, understand that I'm only saying that blind allegiance is a bad thing.
>>711454476
>Real debating
Okay, now we're BOTH guilty of the 'No true Scotsman fallacy', lol.
I don't give a fuck about any offence you take, if you have to stop to pick it up, then you're not well versed enough for debate. Insults and certain words/phrases are chosen for purposes of emphasis and impact, like calling something "gargantuan" or "Colossal" instead of "big". If you can't help but get hung up on them, you're going to debate ineffectively and might as well just walk away.
So you actually didn't hear a word the man said out of his own mouth and just went blindly off what you heard?
Your similarities are a weak and a huge stretch at best.
>Wanted to rise to power
>Started a political party
>Played 'the popular' game
>Played on 'economic crisis in country'
>Gained popularity by playing on peoples fears
All those things can be attributed to every politician ever.
The rest are false equivalences on the grounds Trump has not actually taken up those positions.
Keep in mind, I am indeed still telling you my thoughts about your similarities.
>>711453227
Lurk moar
>>711454915
The only thing that should matter to people is that Hitler actively restricted rights and targeted specific groups.
Something BOTH political parties are doing in the United States.
>>711454915
Socialism in economics is different than socialism in politics, if you believe that Hitler was In favor of the free market, I feel sorry for you.
>>711449882
It's not exclusively American. It's a fact that 52% of any given population are lazy fuckups looking for someone to blame for their ills.
>>711449882
>Liberals under Bush...
>...Everyone that doesn't agree with me is a Nazi
>Conservatives under Obama...
>...Everyone that doesn't agree with me is a Nazi
>Liberals not even under Trump yet...
>...Everyone that doesn't agree with me is a Nazi
>THUS, EVERY SINGLE PERSON ALIVE...
>...IS A NAZI
I don't Trump at all but comparing him to Hitler is a big thing.
You need to think about what situation Germany was in after WW1. Germany's economy was so shitty that their money was worthless and there were piles of currency on the street and it was being used for fires. Hitler took advantage of a very weakened country.
He blamed the corrupt system you fuck
>>711453798
Yes I do
>>711449882
Well at least it wont be a boring presidency.
>>711449882
In Trumps defense the mudslimes and tacos should be in concentration camps.
>would fuck the women when they turned to whoring to feed their degenerate families so win win all around
>>711455429
Of course Hitler wasn't in favour of the free market, because fascists strive to develop economic autarky. But autarky is an economic apparatus that can be adopted by both the hard left and the hard right and exploited for totally different ends; it floats freely from your reductive right/left economic binary. Do yourself a favour and compare the contrary attitudes adopted by Stalin and Hitler towards planned economies.
>>711455618
Kek.
Let's fire up the ovens!!
take it to pol, faggot.
>reported
>>711449882
I'm okay with that, at least most people will find a job in the military and then go to retirement after a few years of service
>>711455618
>>711455893
Because American Vets get treated awesomely right?
Shit, 9/11 first responders are national heroes raking in the dough!
>>711455300
Where have I said I took offense? I was just appalled by the hoe many people dont debate but just go in for the name calling because thats whats wrong with the world nowadays;
People dont listen to each other sides anymore.
And yes I know taking the popular route is a way many politicians use in their campaigns yet the similarities between the two I mentioned was that they both created an enemy. I hitlers case it was the jews and in trumos case the minorities.
He may not have said it I dont know for sure as I mentioned before but a lot of americans are now attacking minorities saying their time is up because trump has now won.
Again dont know the credibility of this and I dont think you do too but it is simillar.
Im not pro or anti anything as I dont want to take a political stand on matters that dont relate to my own country. But these are the similarities Ive made and wanted to share with /b
>>711455300
If you need insults to debate effectively, then you've already lost.
>>711449882
looks like someone's still butthurt about the election...
>>711450008
>>711456109
Oh look another amerifag retard joined the threat without reading anything
>>711449882
>Implying this is bad
>>711450133
>>711452691
no shit. that happened BEFORE WWII retard.
>>711449882
Godwins law. Your argument ended before it even started.
>>711449882
Hitler gained tremendous support, you democrats have nobody to blame but CNN, MSNBC, and yourselves for not voting. Think of it as the tortoise and the hare, Hillary along with the Democratic party were so sure of themselves, their supporters were so sure of themselves, it was arrogant. So you lay back, and expect things to go without a hitch, until Trump wins the presidency at no greater triumph than Romney in 2012. The tortoise fucking beat you. 2008 got Democrats off their asses, the recession was awful, and voter turnout spiked. Voter turnout has declined as the economy recovered, and clearly times are so good for you right now that you won't sacrifice the time to vote, which as we all know adds up as one escalates from the individual decision to "sit out." So when you cry and moan that the electoral college is unfair, remember that this system was put in place so that no minority group could be overlooked, that states would have relatively equal representation in Congress, and consequently the electoral college, because now the democratic majority has overlooked the will of the people within Republican States. Your turnout reflects that your lifestyle is not threatened enough to take political action against the opposing candidate at the time i.e. Trump, so stop wanting a second election just because more of you didn't get off your ass.
>>711456299
Wew yeh that's right you fucking edgelord, use that community college/state school degree of yours to enlighten us all about 'Hitler's great policies'.
>>711456377
>you democrats have nobody to blame but CNN, MSNBC, and yourselves for not voting.
Just because we are not Fascists does not make us Shillocrats.
>>711456377
Waste of typing that comment but you must be glad to have it off your chest.
But it has nothing to do with whats going on in this thread.
It is not between trump or hillary or republican versus democrat.
Just because trumps name is said doesnt mean you have to trigger your automatic repsonse.
>>711449882
trump was never in war.hitler was in ww1
>>711456377
Any source for that graph? I'd hate to save it and use it on a thread only to find out it's bullshit.
>>711456069
>Wrong with the world nowadays
No, people taking offence is the problem. The fact that you are so hung up on it and it bothers you so much, is proof enough that you're offended by it, otherwise you would ignore it and move on, it wouldn't have any impact on you.
Maybe they do listen and they respond, but you just get hung up on the "mean words"?
Again, if you actually look into what the man has ACTUALLY said and not just what other people are conflating his words to mean, he is not against minorities at all.
And a lot of Hillary supporters are attacking Trump supporters just because they supported Trump, they are also doing this in alarming numbers when compared to the instances of people using Trump to justify their bigotry.
I absolutely do know the credibility of this, I bother to look for the fact, I like information, it's what I base my opinions off of.
Yes, you formulated a political opinion and I told you what I thought of them, lol. I did so for the benefit of you and anyone else holding similar opinions, if anything I would just like you to reassess and question the hearsay that you've based your opinion on since the spreading of that kind of view has led to violence and misunderstanding here in America.
>>711450660
List the similarities and I will believe you.
>>711453742
No no no no Trump supporters are the most intelligent people in the universe. It's literally IMPOSSIBLE for them to ever be wrong in any scenario.
>>711453742
>The thirty year witch hunt on Clinton
555-come-on-now.
>>711449882
Don't be dumb, trump isn't as bad as you think, it's just how the media portrays him. He's borderline pro LGBT, hasn't said anything bad about Mexicans (just the illegal immigrants), and he only catered to the islamaphobes (not sure if I spelt that right) so he could just get into office. He isn't a monster, just a businessman.
>>711456711
Ive mentioned them in this thread already.
Go read them
>>711453742
Very true, but only one side claimed incessantly that they were the loving and understanding side.
>>711449882
>>711449882
All this projecting, and still refusing to look at the actual facts about the situation, he's not president yet and hasn't done anything yet.
Ad hominem is not an argument. Your discomfort does not represent an argument against Trump.
>>711449882
I'm happy USA didn't choose Hillary to be president, and really happy we weren't stupid enough to put Bernie in office.
>>711452118
>Mentally unstable woman with page boy haircut
>Made false sexual harassment claims against Odell Beckham Jr. for ignoring her at Emmys
>Sexually assaulted her younger sister
>Doesn't follow through with outlandish claim/boast
Its really shocking, she's such a stable pillar of the community.
OP Newfag thinks nowadays U.S. is 1923-1934 Germany. Bitch please.
>>711457159
You don't remember the so-called "compassionate conservatives"?
Not disagreeing with you by the way. Just saying that we won't see any sort of reconciliation for a long time.
>>711456692
I think we are talking about the same thing. For one I truly do not take offence with name calling or anything else, it just bothers me that that is how most of the discussions and debates I come across are going nowadays.
And yes I agree that the problem lies with people being too easily offended thay they cannot get themselves to get their own points across let alone listen to thay of the opposition and just start to blatantly curse and demean. Just like how I thought you and othets were debating. Others still so.
Ive only listened to a couple of trump speeches and they werent that good in the sense youre talking about now.
The one I saw was about him promoting violence and then paying the legal costs.
Another one was about building a wall and having mexico pay for it because they own america a debt, yet that is not how debt works.
Another one was about nuclear plans for some countries in the world.
Another one was about putting hillary in jail if he was president (hope he still does though)
So yeah I saw some stuff that didnt put him in that good of a light, you might say they were cherry picked by the media to show how bad trump of a choice is but he did say those things.
He did say them to gain popular vote, he said them to play into the fear of the people. He said them in a way that it was not all political gibberish.
I still stand my case regarding an overall similarity between the two about how they put together their political campaign. I can ofc search for more things that would disagree my case and im definitely one to change his or het views to conform to facts yet I have no idea what to look for.
You are the man that 'knows' im wrong so if you have anything you can show me that will change this debate in your favor then by all means; show me.
>>711449882
its crazy how little amerifats know about german history but still talk about it
>>711453742
>both sides are full of adults with child-like minds who immediately throw tantrums when they don't get their way
That's not entirely true. No one rioted because they questioned Obama's credentials to be president.
The gridlock was because the policies put forth were bad, not because they didn't like the president. There were no riots and protests, it was our appointed leaders we told not to allow the bad policies that are bankrupting america.
>the 30 year witch hunt on Clinton
The Clinton clan is really shady, and that should be explored. She never took responsibility for her actions. What she did was illegal, and her husband is a lying philanderer. Why would we want that in the world's highest office? Again, no one rioted or protested or burned cars over it.
>Americans are all fucking whiny bitches with a gun fetish.
Not really. We're confident we prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.
We have reasons why we feel the way we do, and they're pretty dispassionate reasons. We want what we feel is best for all Americans, and do not want an unfair world for anyone.
>>711449882
>Hitler's entire political platform was simplistic racism
I know this is b8 but fuck me there are some dumb cunts here.
Germany lost a world war, had a political system forced upon them by the victors, communism was a very real threat, they lost their monarch and it's ruling class, went through two periods of economic collapse & hyper inflation and lost huge swaths of territory all the while being forced to pay the allies enormous sums of money in war reparations. Not to mention, Hitler and the National Socialists were totally open about implementing a totalitarian state.
Yep, 100% verbatim comparison between 2016 USA, post 1918 Germany, Hitler and Trump.
K-Y-S
>>711449882
You simplistic fucktard. The vast majority of Americans don't blame Mexicans and Muslims, they simply agree that non controlled immigration can be a problem. A belief held by the majority of countries.
>>711449882
Liberal tears gets me diamonds
>>711458398
Just assuming someone is liberal without thay person having showed its political standpoint. OP could be a trumo supporter for all I know he just pointed out a similarity
The rest of us have reasons why we want Trump in office. We can talk about those reasons articulately. We can argue and make points with evidence to bolster those points.
The left has tried its best to bully and silence any dissenting views to its narrative. The regressive cannot clearly articulate reasons why it's good to fill the USA with Muslims.
We can see clearly the two cultures do are irreconcilable. We can see a steady rise in Islamic terrorism. After the Orlando club massacre, Clinton came out against guns and Islamophobia and has offered nothing less than pure sanctimony on the issue.
She said "Radical Jihadism".... really? radical jihadist?
Is there any other kind of jihadist?
its almost like niggers calling for white genocide and per-noucning white men as having lost was counter intuitive to their real plan of white genocide.
>>711458649
Just assuming I was talking about OP and not making a general comment. Fuck off faggot.
no one ever mentions how the indegenious peoples of america got fucked. it's always MUH JEWS
>>711458268
>>711449882
The issue of illegal immigration only matters because we are a welfare state, paying out costly benefits to people with money we don't have.
We're trillions of dollars in debt.
I cannot see borrowing money just so illegal immigrants can have a free ride. It literally makes no sense.
>>711458209
if only germany had a nuclear arsenal while hitler ran shit
>>711458649
Nice try OP
>>711449882
i hate you
>>711458895
>how the indegenious peoples of america got fucked.
They're paid paid paid paid
Further investigation and study of actual american history shows how indigenous people were attacked settlers for no good reason.
Violent indigenous tribes were attacking fellow tribes as well, so being of warring nature, they did it already. They were tribalistic, just like the sunni and shi'a.
The army stepped in to help stop the attacks and to negotiate peace. The indians put up resistance to the attacks and skirmishes broke out, and natives lost the battles.
There could have been peace all along. Now they live by being paid, tax free and we have no problems now.
Don't believe all the stupid narrative on the left to make your points.
>>711459466
>not mentioning the many genocides
how convenient for you
>>711459649
>>not mentioning the many genocides
Shit happens when you choose war over peace and would rather slaughter peaceful settler families and travelers than to keep to yourself or be peaceful.
>>711459466
>>711459649
Not all natives attacked settlers and travelers. Not all natives were destroyed, because of this.
>>711458866
Hahahah, you mentioned OPs post so its not an assumption
>>711459814
how to justify genocide
>shit happens
>>711460058
Treatment of native americans was bad after several bloody battles, this is true. Many were treated like savages should be treated, but some were not savages and still got treated badly.
I am native American.
>>711449882
The thing that worries me about trump is not his views on muslims etc but the man doesn't fucking believe in climate change which is just mindboggling
>>711460135
>how to justify genocide
You seem to be an expert on the subject with so much to say about it to justify your hatred of whites.
Tell us about the genocide. Which natives were genocided? Do tell, smart person.
>>711460114
Quit pretending you're not OP faggot. Damn.
>>711449882
>Post WW2 Germany
Are you autistic?
Native Americans just need to get the fuck over it and join the modern world. Your ancestors got fucked because they held to their primitive way of life. Don't make their mistake.
>>711450143
/thread
>>711460464
you got me newfriend. i made the whole thing up
>>711460335
>but the man doesn't fucking believe in climate change
In the long list of concerns in the world, climate change lands at number 20. Maybe this really is the most important issue for you.
We have Islamic terrorism and Islamic growth throughout the world. Islam will swallow all the world's religions long before climate change will kill you.
Muslims produce currently at 8 babies per family in the ones that have a single wife. There is nothing that will be done, because of religious tolerance.
If he does decide to gas anybody, I sincerely hope its leftists.
>>711449882
>Obama won because the Americans wanted change and he blamed the whitey
>>711449882
Trump isn't blaming ALL of america's problems on mulims and mexicans. Just terrorism and illegal immigration respectively.
The regressive left blames all the country's problems on rich straight white men. How is THAT any different from Hilter's rhetoric?
Make sure the comparison is approproate before you invoke Godwin's law.
>>711460624
>Don't make their mistake.
Everything turned out OK though. Natives are self governed, live tax free on thier own sovereign lands. They whine for more benefits occasionally, but generally they took on western culture of education, housing and medical, food production, peaceful living.
The asked the whites to build them casinos, and they get free houses, food, everything.
>>711449882
>generalizing
>look at the bigger picture.
shut up nigga
>>711461124
But they don't stay on the reservations. They go off reservations and whine about oil pipelines being constructed on land that does not belong to them.
>>711460891
>>Obama won because the Americans wanted change and he blamed the whitey
obama won because everyone put him in office, including whites (not all whites, but the majority put him in office)
It was a mistake we can reverse and try and repair the damage he did. We will try to do that with what we have in office now.
>>711461028
that and something that most people never even comments about it..
he said that america needs less illegal immigrants and more LEGAL ones
>>711460624
native americans just want to smoke weed and look at the stars like the myans.
>>711449882
First off. Fascism is Ultra-Nationalism where the state runs EVERYTHING. Trump wants to shrink government. This is not a small difference, this is a HUGE (in Trump's voice) difference. So much so that it alone makes your argument invalid. I could go into further detail, but there is no point. Your brain is broken or washed with poison.
>>711458933
This. Id be more than happy to have open boarders if we stop giving people free shit. But thats not going to happen. The apes would go apeshit.
>>711461242
>But they don't stay on the reservations. They go off reservations and whine about oil pipelines being constructed on land that does not belong to them.
I don't care, so long as they don't cause damage and destroy things. Those are funded by george soros like institutions also, just like the current anti-trump demonstrations and riots.
>>711449882
Do you mean pre ww1 or post ww2
Doesn't matter because everything you just said makes no sense and you are projecting your insecurities on a scapegoat YOU FUCKING RETARD
>>711461451
If they took the money and spent it here, it would be different, but they invariably send mass amounts back to their shitty 3rd world.
>>711449882
People made the exact same comparison when Obama got elected. With s5upid people like you it works like this. People i dont like = Hitler.
>>711460624
Tell that to the niggers: muh slavery.
Tell that to the jews: muh gas chambers.
>>711449882
Were cool with Russia now. Trump is only worried about lining up his companies for success, and giving the wealthy tax cuts (himself, family, and friends). YEESsS! more labos and bitches for everyone. Well for the people in at the very top of course.
>>711449882
Whoa, WW3, thats what i was waiting for. Lets slay minorities and make USA great again !
>>711461451
I don't mind open borders if we:
1. Get rid of the war on drugs and legalize all imported drugs.
2. Eliminate welfare completely and SSI for people that did not pay into social security.
No freebees, and no drug wars... good to go.
>>711461601
But they send us dollars. Wouldnt that, to be of any value, need to make its way back to the US?
>>711461769
If we produce and sell our own pot, heroin, meth, etc, mexicans won't be killing each other over our getting our business.
>>711461769
This. Absolutely the only way open boarders work. Thanks anon.
>>711449882
Germany turned out pretty good after
>>711461675
these situations are in no way alike.. FYI you are a moran
>>711452118
LOL, my sides. I don't really give a shit about either candidate since I already have a nice cushy life, but I fucking lost it with this one.
>>711461811
>But they send us dollars. Wouldnt that, to be of any value, need to make its way back to the US?
What do you mean. Mexico sends us dollars?
>>711461811
It's essentially like investing in the Mexican economy when someone converts dollars to pesos.
Takes from the US and gives to Mexico
>>711453458
fuck all this, I just want to know when we can start grabbing bitches by the pussy starting with your gf and sister. Also the immigrants, I have my gun ready and I'm including the Italian to Mexican looking for my comfort, and their olive garden is shit.
from Russia with Love
>>711456902
>borderline pro-LGBT
>picks Pence, who is a notorious homophobe who believes in conversion therapy, to be his running mate.
yeah, ok.
>>711462953
Good thing then the Vice Presidency is a place you go to have your political career wither and die.
>>711463113
Or, if Trump get's killed or dies for whatever reason the mother fucker is in the highest political office possible. And Trump isn't exactly well liked either.
Either way, picking Pence shows he's not pro-LGBT. He's pro whatever the fuck he wants.
>>711456902
>>711462953
our beloved leader! NOOOooooo!
>>711463355
Politics make for strange bedfellows.
>>711452128
>Causing the Cold War
>Causing the Cold War
lel implying murica and ruskis had no fucking self control
>>711463787
yup, and they're all buddies behind the scenes. You scratch my back and I scratch yours.
The Clintons and Trumps go back many decades. They don't even think about your poor ass.
basically, democrats are the most retarded childish people on earth and are scared to death because of propaganda and confirmation bias.
>>711464239
THIS OMG THIS
