By petitioning to get Trump unelected your petitioning against democracy
By rioting to get Trump unelected you're protesting against democracy
Critisizing the elctoral college as undemocratic is hypocritical if you are only doing so because the party you wanted to win didn't, ie if you weren't critisizing it before this election
If this movement gets what it wants and has Trump unelected then Hillary put into power instead, would you actually feel proud to know that you live in a nation where a democratically voted for politician can be fought out of power through violent protest
You are fighting for facism and a victory would result in a dictatorship fought for by a minority of young fit (privileged?) people who refused to tolerate the wishes of others
Republicans never rioted because the democrats won, maybe they're not the irrational ones
>>711441541
Furthermore I should add that it's not gonna work anyway because that would be fucking absurd
>>711441595
Then why so worried? I'm on board with the other thread.
>>711441717
Im not worried because im not an amerifat but I am shocked at how retarded you guys can get
>By petitioning to get Trump unelected your petitioning against democracy
No, you're protesting the electoral college in favor of the popular vote, otherwise known as pure democracy.
The electoral college is there to prevent pure democracy. Learn some history.
>>711441928
Your priority obviously isn't pure democracy if you weren't protesting the electoral college when it got your team to win in the past, if what all these protestors really did care about was pure democracy they'd have been rioting before the election result, which they weren't so that's bullshit
>>711441541
See most people are too stupid to make this connection and need to realize the game is over now deal with it. It's called being an adult and not a whiny special snowflake. But special flakes are in this year so we will have to hear them cry until they realize no one is listening.
>>711442448
Honestly I made this thread becuase I want someone to reassure me that all these Americans protesting do actually have a reasonable motive because it seems to me like they actually don't and it's really turning me off democrats
>>711442128
I wasn't defending the special snowflake generation, just correcting OP as he seems to think the USA is a pure democracy.
I think the whiners need to grow up. Respecting the constitution cuts both ways.
>>711441928
America is a Republic, faggot.
>>711442523
I'm about to go sleep so I can't go on some big spiel. But I agree with you.
Bam. Reassurance.
If the petition did go through, we would then riot and have good reason to get violent with little liberal anarchist faggots.
Either way, they loose.
>>711441541
technically speaking you're supporting democracy, given that she won the popular vote. You know, the sign of a raw democracy.
>>711442523
Some are reasonably scared, trump is expected to set us back on some fronts (climate change, women's rights, science, etc) but instead of making sure certain laws or policies do not go into effect, they would rather cry and protest. This is what you get when you raise a generation of everybody is a winner special snowflakes. As an American, who didn't vote, I think it's funny to see my nation do the same shit with oppose people when Obama was elected. Some people want certain states to succeed, others waiting for him to fail or get kill.
>>711442523
that's because you are a fucking moron.
you are black lives matter.
if you already don't hate US democrats and republicans, reread my first statement.
>>711441541
>By petitioning to get Trump unelected your petitioning against a Republic
>By rioting to get Trump unelected you're protesting against a Republic
Fixed that for ya
>>711442523
They don't. They might say it's because "racism bigotry and misogyny", but these are the same people who bitch and cry so much at video game companies for doing things like not making playable women characters in a WW1 game to be historically accurate. They have no actual basis in reality and think they should be constantly catered to because "muh feelings and movement".
Fuck them all to death.
>>711441541
>"trump is a fucking facist scumbag!"
>"this is fucking bullshit other people are wrong we are right there is only one president for us and that is not trump!"
oh the irony boys
>>711442820
Well then you should have been complaining about the type of democracy America uses regardless of which side and before any election, this is probably literally the worst time to try to change something like this which just indicates that it's actually nothing to do with the voting system it's to do with not being able to accept a democratic result
>>711442951
>you are black lives matter
I think i've given you the wrong idea about me, I would vote republican I just don't like stereotyping groups of people like I am the democrats right now and would like to hear that I've got the wrong idea about them, my idea about them being a bad case of special snowflake syndrome
>>711442900
Hrs expected to set us back because the media used propaganda to sway people's opinion against him.
Aka legal citizens are perfectly safe.
As for illegals and potentially dangerous groups that oppose the US while living in the US go, they can get the fuck out.
>>711441541
>>711441541
Hold the fuck up boys and girls!
Fuck Trump!
Fuck Hillary!
There's still a chance of President Harambe?
>>711443064
Exactly. I was saying it months ago. "Why if the left is so opposed, aren't they protesting for a new "worthy candidate". If they wait until he wins, and riot, there will be civil war.
>>711443364
le monkey joke that's always funny :^)
>>711443292
Some of it is not the media, when the people around him deny climate change, evolution, that smoking doesn't cause cancer for an example, like the VP or appointed secretary of education, you should be a little worried.
>>711443497
Well maybe you actually are a special snowflake but you're fucked anyway so just stfu and embrace your new overlord
The irony of this whole thing is that Hillary's supporters were critical of Trump not possibly accepting the election results if Hillary won. Now that Trump has won, Hillary supporters don't want to accept the results.
>>711441928
The electoral college is so that populous states can't fast lane their candidate to office. If it weren't for the electoral college, every election would be decided between Florida, Texas, and California.
>>711443586
What more worried than when Hillary says she wants a no fly zone over Syria? To be fair it doesn't sound like a bad idea if you don't know what a no fly zone is or that much about the state of Syria, which to be fair most people probably don't but the truth she was talking about escalating a war zone during her campaign, I'd rather a dipshit than a paid out war monger
Also sorry I couldn't find a good article but googles full of post election stuff now
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/25/hillary-clinton-syria-no-fly-zones-russia-us-war
>>711443874
I agree with you. It was funny hearing him bash the clit about how we are always arming rebels and then we have to fight them
>>711441541
By posting this you are a nigger.
>>711441541
>change.org changing anything let alone the fucking presidency of the United States
these cucks don't put any effort into dealing with situations period.
just making yourself an insignificant number like a fucking communist does dick all, this isn't a group effort because in order for there to be a group effort there needs to be EFFORT.
Ticking a box or clicking "share" isn't effort.
Effort is going out and speaking without regret and facing people who oppose you albeit in a rational matter, not just dismissing and blocking others out while yelling "EVIL! EVIL! HISSSSSSS!"
All Hillary supporters did was tick boxes and click "share" while yelling "EVIL! EVIL! HISSSSSSS!" all the while Trump supporters got out and talked, thus trump winning.
I think Trump is very unfit for being in the position of president but he is and instead of assessing this comparing and how it happened, people are just rioting streets and defecating in public like primates.
I'm out.
>>711443862
forgot New York which evidently hates Trump even tho he lives there
Clinton won the pool popular vote. If democracy was upheld, she'd be president elect
>>711441898
not an american problem we got those guys in germany too.
>we got to save democracy by undermining it
fucking leftists
>>711441541
They just going to cause a civil war and then they will all die because guns are scary to them, and a unit of patriots meeting them on the battle field would literally kill them from fright
>>711442952
Look at op's pic stupid
>>711444131
Once again, nigger
The electoral college is so that populous states can't fast lane their candidate to office. If it weren't for the electoral college, every election would be decided between Florida, Texas, and California.
>>711441928
The electoral college is there to make sure that Americans have equal representation no matter where they live.
If the popular vote was what won the election there'd be no point campaigning anywhere but big cities. Campaigning is time and resource intensive. So candidates would only go to where there are a lot of people and ignore the places where there weren't like rural areas or large states but with little population density like the entire midwest.
The idea to repeal the electoral college goes through Congress a heck of a lot. But it never gets done. And that's because the electoral college makes sure everyone's interests are represented, regardless of what your Facebook compiled 'knowledge' of history tells you.
>>711444131
Not how our elections have EVER worked since the Electoral college
And saying you won, when the difference is less than .2% (margin of error in an election counting over 120MM votes) is just plain ignorant
>>711444118
>>711444185
>>711444185
tfw everyone's calling me a lefty and saying I'm into BLM when I'm a brexit type guy from the UK
You're not undermining democracy if someone wins with your democratic voting system, you're undermining democracy if you want to change who won with your democratic voting system which the people I'm complaining about are
>>711444377
I voted for TRUMP.
>>711444381
That's the electoral college in action though to properly represent different class areas so not all the voting power is given to one type of person, such as only people who live in cities
>>711444413
you got me wrong i agree with you i just wanted to say that you got those guys outside of america in every democracy.
People need to realize the president does have some power but is mainly a dog on a leash. He will have so many people telling what to say and how to act, I'd be surprised if he stayed his eccentric self while in office
>>711441541
>republicans
>religious nuts
>not the irrational ones
>>711444536
Exactly my point. The electoral college is the fairest way of electing a president.
>>711441541
United kingdom lol
>>711441541
>By petitioning to get Trump unelected your petitioning against democracy
True
>By rioting to get Trump unelected you're protesting against democracy
Sadly true, I understand why people would want to protest, but they are not serving our cause very well
>Critisizing the elctoral college as undemocratic is hypocritical if you are only doing so because the party you wanted to win didn't, (edit for space)
Not really. There are arguments for and against the electoral college. In general I favor it, the real problem is that this country's voting districts have been gerrymandered to hell and back by Republicans, which is not to say that democrats would not have done, and indeed haven't done, the same thing if they had been the ones drawing the districts
>If this movement gets what it wants and has Trump unelected then Hillary put into power instead, would you actually feel proud to know that you live in a nation where a democratically voted for politician can be fought out of power through violent protest
No, but I know it will never happen/I feel Trump's victory indicates dark days ahead for our republic. It'll take decades to repair the damage he'll do in even just one term, but if we tear it all down just to avoid that, especially to appoint Clinton, there's nothing to repair
>You are fighting for facism and a victory would result in a dictatorship fought for by a minority of young fit (privileged?) people who refused to tolerate the wishes of others
I say a Trump presidency leaves us teetering on the edge of fascism in any case, certainly a lot of his supporters voted for authoritarianism if not fascism.
>Republicans never rioted because the democrats won, maybe they're not the irrational ones
Who's to say they wouldn't have if Trump lost? It certainly was on the minds of a lot of his supporters, and heavily implied by Trump himself
Signed
A Libtard, Bernie supporting Democratic socialist who wishes we'd stop defeating ourselves
>>711441541
Indeed. Where was all this outrage when Al Gore lost the electoral vote during the 2000 election, but won the popular vote by over 550,000 votes? Fuck everyone who is now just worried about this; you had 16 goddamn years to do something about it.
I didn't vote for Trump or Hillary, and that, my friends was my "fuck you" to the system. Now, I'll sit back and watch how this all unfolds. Should prove entertaining.
>>711444572
mfw im retrarded
>>711444666
>rioting
>lgbts
>muh gender
>lefties
>anti democracy
>low income
>idealistic
>happy to bully their opinions into power (facist)
>retarded
>not the irrational ones
>>711444330
I'm not supporting overturning the election, but this line of reasoning is faulty. Right now, much of rural America is ignored by presidential campaigns simply because the states are guaranteed to vote Republican. And someone living in such a state, regardless of there political beliefs, effectively has no voice of say in the election. Additionally, rural areas of populous states are also ignored by both parties. There's millions of people in California and New York, Democrat strongholds, who identify and vote republican.
I would like to see in my lifetime a move away from the electoral college towards a more direct democracy. But I'd also like to see educated voters and rational discourse but surprisingly enough the only place I find that is the chans :/
>>711441541
I voted for Hillary and I agree with you.
>>711444722
OP here and can confirm bernie not winning is proper silly
apart from the fact he's definitely got less than 4 years left in him
>>711444893
>>711441541
Do you understand why the electoral college exists?
>>711442820
We dont use a pure democracy, if we did there would have been a runoff election being as noone got 50% of the vote.
>>711444955
Yeah, hopefully he can convince the Illuminati to give him the immortality treatment before 2020.
>>711444794
Rural America isn't ignored though. It's just that the rural areas in the country traditionally vote red and are probably the hardest to sway. Blue candidates typically don't waste their time. Same reason why red candidates don't spend their time trying to campaign in the Pacific NW. It's just a waste of time and money. There are some areas that will always vote the same way. And then there is the Floridas, Pennsylvanias l, Ohios, etc. The states that the candidates campaign in are states that could go either way. They don't campaign there because of populations, but because it brings on the highest probability of success
>>711444971
Yes, to give the retarded people a voice.
It's been GREAT so far!
>>711445072
That's not even the biggest issue, it gives all the voting power to people who live in geographically small and similair areas (cities), so a candidate only has to appeal to them in pure democracy, obviously the trade off is that city votes count for less than more sparsely populated votes
>>711441541
That's liberals in a nutshell.
>>711444312
Nigger detected
>>711445389
tfw lefites are the new facists
>>711444792
>rioting
exactly what the trumpers wanted to happen if hillary won
>lgbt
nothing irrational here
>muh strawman
>lefties
and? a point to be made or?
>anti democracy
EC is a republic retard, they won the democracy part
>low income
bc workers who create the value and glue society together being underpaid is somehow their fault? whats irrational is how rich owners get for doing no work.
>idealistic
halfway between right and wrong is still wrong. whats irrational is not having ideals. not having a vision.
>bully for power
which side is it with the "poll watchers" again? which side tried illegal discriminatory voter id laws and poll location closing?
>retarded
yews right dem librulz duh ree tards ay cletus. gud thang i gived all muh moneyz to jesus!
im not even a liberal but yikes you cant make a single point. immigration? env? cant mention anything actual irrational?
>>711444722
Yeah you sound well indoctrinated by your overlords.
What makes you so afraid of Donald Trump? CNN told you to be so now for unexplainable reasons this one guy is gonna single handedly destroy the strongest nation on earth. Just like bush, mccain and romney were going to as well. You demotards are a broken record. Democrats blow tons of money and inact short sighted ill prepared plans that only stand to coddle their next elections minority votes.
>>711445686
My point is if lefties weren't the retarded ones you'd be too busy having a day job and not smoking weed to go rioting
>>711445335
the issue is the rust belt baby boom voters picking the president are retards
>>711441541
That's not how it works. That list is effectively pointing out how many brainless morons we have, though.
>>711445921
The issue is that poor people are too evenly spraed out so you need to cram as many of them as possible into singular constituencies to stop them voting wrong
>>711441541
> hypocritical
>>711445921
So youre saying trump didnt win 26 states to clinton's 21? Some of which were polled repeatedly to be for clinton.
>>711441541
democracy is an out of date ideology anyways idiots are the majority of the population and shouldnt be allowed to have a say on the important things that affect the country
>>711441541
>>711445859
this is just imagined shit. they dont work bc theyre at a riot? what if they took the day off or their boss closed for a day? not all dems are ferguson retards
but i do think that rioting in 2016 is useless. so that part is irrational but thats exactly what the trumpers had planned but in a more violent way
>>711441541
ITT: Defeated libs flee /pol/ in search of less intelligent opposition
>>711446083
Spotted the tween.
>>711442787
You seem to be under a miss apprehension as to the number of Antifa and communist groups who are going to enthusiastically take that offer up, and you aren't also an organized group, probably win
California makes up 12% of the national vote and 1/5th of the required electoral vote. California is the only reason this election was remotely a contest.
>>711446001
is this sarcastic? i cant tell. idc if someones poor but the baby boomers picking the pres are just too dumb. they vote for bad reasons and have no foresight. the picked obama and trump for bad reasons.
>>711446032
what? where did i say trump didnt win? he won the ec fairly but the voters who pick the pres are retards. for every election not just this one. the prob is the ec comes down to dumb boomers in rust belt. america has an idiocracy problem
>>711446414
>what are key states
>>711445855
Lol, yeah, I'm the one that's indoctrinated.
>>711446500
not gonna lie fam it does seem that way
DELET DIS
Do these idiots not even realize how the electoral college works or realize that a lot of states have LAWS stating that if you vote against your party you will be penalized and your vote will potentially not count. In the state of Michigan I am 100% sure that if you vote against your pledged party, your vote does not count and they will get someone else to vote.
>>711446449
You cant keep blaming the same group of people for 30 years. The college kids decided obamas presidency and this year people are just sick of the apologist money wasting habits of the left coupled with the fact that your candidate is an outted career criminal politician.
>>711445921
maybe the real reason is the job created under 8 years of obama presidency are low wage jobs.
>>711443054
> no actual basis in reality
This is the most important and infallible argument against these sick people. We often loose our patience and get mad at these fucks because they are so annoying and unbearable, but they're not doing this all on purpose (at least not most of them), but because they are contaminated and destroyed from within. The remainder of their mental illness is a humanistic cause at this point in history.
>>711446622
That's probably the stupidest thing i've ever read on 4chan
>>711446500
Thats a weak response /b/ro.
Give me some logical reasons why you and so many other buttfrustrated democrats are so terrified of trump.
>>711441541
What really amazes me is how they waste time and energy trying to come up with arguments and silly words to justify what they're really doing right now, which is just crying like little bitches. It's immoral to bother others so much with your pathetic little whining.
>>711446833
Hes talking about these "faithless electors" that the lefts new plan revolves around. A lot of states have laws against the EC electors voting opposite of the election, and beside that, she would need 37 electors to flip on trump, thats absurd.
>>711446679
those things are true. obama had more support than just the boomers. but he had a margin. when it comes down to the swing states, its the dumb postindustrials who decide.
yes you are right the dems put up fucking hillary. i could shitted a turd more appealing
>>711446690
not sure what that has to do with it? what point are you trying to make? its the postindustrial boomers who pick the pres. and they are really dumb people.
>>711446494
Cancer.
>>711446679
hillary is also not my candidate im not a liberal
>>711441541
even if the electoral college were to have a vote, Trump would still win because it is republican dominated now.
she would lose the election twice, just imagine the sea to sea butthurt then.
Fuck anyone that is against donald j TRUMP. The single greatest thing to ever happen to this country is weeks away and half of it is complaining. They need to just start picking random protesters and shooting them in the head. Or better yet, fucking string them up and hang them in the street in front of their friends.
I was of the opinion that liberals need to just buck up and strap themselves in for the ride.
However after looking at Trump's picks for his cabinet it's clear he's just stacking his administration with people who supported him rather than people who are genuinely best for the job.
Tell him to fuck before this idiot does serious damage to the country. I'd rather risk a civil war than see Ben Carson in any government position.
>>711446690
High paying manufacturing jobs are not coming back. It's not possible, no matter how good a "deal maker" Donald thinks he is. The jobs are done by machines now, and those that aren't are done for slave wages. Donald is on record opposing minimum wage increases, and being skeptical of the concept of a minimum wage in the first place, as are many modern republicans. But the jobs that Donald got elected on the promise of returning to the midwestern working class are done for slave wages wherever they aren't automated. So Is Donald going to force the companies to pay more for the jobs when he brings them back to America? That doesn't sound very free market. Even if they pay minimum wage, it's not enough to support a family, like those jobs were in the days of old. Lots of potential for jobs in alternative energy, we'll see how this administration prioritizes development in that sector. He might just as well talk about bringing back blacksmith and carriage building jobs as coal and manufacturing, but that's a hard answer that people don't want to hear. If you think regulation is what killed these jobs, guess what ? Coal is dead because natural gas is cheaper. When he slashes regulations, even if it brings down the cost of coal, it will decrease the cost of NG even more. So then what ? Price supports and subsidies ? Again, not really in line with the economic principles that conservatives espouse, or at least pay lip service to. I'd love to see the American working class get a better deal. But it's not possible for Trump to make it happen the way he says, and he either knows it, or he truly is a fool.
>>711441541
>not understanding how elections work.
If you faggots get out of hand, you will not be met with niceties.
Take a look at what is happening in Mexico.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/11/mexico-vigilantes-killings-public-support
The hard working citizens are taking care of their problems themselves. If you guys get out of hand, your lawlessness won't be tolerated.
Just some friendly advice for you children.
>>711447607
nah, don't even bother. they will likely start offing themselves if they are truly butthurt enough, and society is better off without them if they do.
for the remaining ones that live, it's a good life lesson that you can't always get your way, and no amount of crying, pouting and screaming is going to change that.
>>711447426
Then what are you? Who are you defending or are you just argueing for the sake of boredom? You could be trolling i guess but you havent been inflammatory enough for that.
>>711446171
>implying conservatives are intelligent
>>711441541
Couldn't have said it better myself
>>711447639
Trump is putting the most religious he can into power. Carsons gumna be for education watch. Palin Christie Gingrich. expect them in charge.
Trump loves the religious politicians bc he recognizesreligion is the greatest con of all time. you tell the monkeys that jesus wants them to be poor and theyll give you their money. Trump knows the religious conmen are his best chance at maintaining support after his ridiculous promises are unfulfilled.
>>711447826
The only way to peace is for Trump to step down. If he doesn't riots will begin to break out all across the nation, and you can take that to the bank.
>>711447896
At least they're not poor
>>711447895
people dont fit into 2 categories. liberal and conservative arent the only options. and im not a libertarian retard either. i just argue for what makes sense. both sides suck.
>>711447987
pence is pretty much the 2nd worst person in america after trump.
>>711447987
Thats terrorism, the left is no better than sand monkeys apparently.
>>711441541
No-one takes "this movement" seriously
Let them have their stupid petition 50,000 less people would know about if it wasn't for you posting about it on /b/
>>711448220
Conservatives threatened the exact same thing if Hillary won.
What you're looking at was inevitable.
>>711448148
>pence is
No, Hillary will become president because they haven't been sworn in yet.
>>711447786
by deporting illegals, those jobs that goes for $5/hr for illegals will now goes for $20/hr to attract Americans to do it.
>>711441541
Trump said before election that he wont accept the results except he gets elected. Is this how you represent respect for democracy?
And who the fuck cares about this petition; nothing changed when al gore had the same bullshit happening to himand nothing will change now.
>>711448148
We have a 2 party system here homeboy.
Its not the best way but its the way we have it. Did you speak out against the electoral college when obama won it? How about bush, i know you were probably in elementary school then but still.
>democracy democracy democracy
Good thing the United States is a republic and not a democracy! Trump won in a republic, but lost in a democracy. This petition is about reflecting democracy, rather than the republic.
>>711441541
I dont think people should be protesting the election of Trump, that is not democractic at all, but saying the electoral college is democractic is a farce. Its not fair that the majority of votes dont elect someone.
That being said these are the rules and I guess the government could change it, but with the rules being as they were for the he won fair and square. I highly doubt the rules will be changed though.
Theres literally no good reason for the electoral college to exist, except people are stupid, the original reason.
>>711446851
Maybe it's his lack of experience. His obvious petulant and childish temper. Maybe it's his ego and self aggrandizement or his history of deceptive business practices and ripping off people that worked for him. His blatant bigotry and misogyny. Or his constant easily verifiable lying about matters great and small. His mockery of veterans like John McCain, or his trivialization of actual service with statements like "I always felt like I served in the military" even though he got questionable deferments. Maybe it's that he's asked "Why shouldn't we use our nuclear arsenal ?" Maybe it's because he has so many times made a ridiculous statement on policy only to later state the exact opposite and deny that he ever felt any differently. It's hard to pin down, but what I'm sure of is that it's because of the things the man himself said and did, and not because anyone "told me to"
>>711448318
Thats retarded as fuck to say. You are making assumptions. What the liberals are currently doing is terrorism. They couldnt use their adjectives and pronouns to belittle their way into the white house and their little temper tantrum wont get them anywhere but shot in the fucking face.
Oh, yes. Republicans def hadn't rioted in '08 and '12 when our current president took the white house..
>>711441541
>Starting a petition to choose the president
>Petition only needs 4.5 million signatures
>That's 1.5% of the US population
>If anyone gave any credit to this petition it would imply that 1.5% of America can overrule the majority
>>711448402
ive never thought ec was a bad idea but yea ive complained about the swing states being decided by retards during obama bush and now trump
what voting needs is a ranking system vote and gerrymandering needs to be non partisan
>>711448381
thats why trump isnt going to deport illegals. hes reagan v2 expect massive amnesty. no way trump is gunna fuck over his owner 1%er friends and himself by raising wages. illegals arent going anywhere in a meaningful amount just wait.
>>711448610 both sides riot retard
>>711448648
>>711448610
>terrorism
>few cars are burning
>some people are fighting
>there is more happening if a black person is shot.
how gay are you?
>>711443862
nothing wrong with that. thats where the most people in the USA live and they are affected by all this bullshit. fuck the middle states that can take over the entire globe with the "electoral college," everyone knows its not fair to anybody.
>>711441541
She conceded you retard get out of 4chan hill shill the election is over.
>>711441541
>By petitioning to get Trump unelected your petitioning against democracy
How is the person who didn't get the majority of all votes in a nation becoming president democratic?
>>711448381
Sorry, that's not going to happen, they tried it in Alabama, and ended up trucking in illegals to save the strawberries from rotting in the field. Americans aren't going to do the job, and even if you were correct, isn't it an article of faith with your lot that if a business has to give up one more cent in wages it will monstrously increase the price of the product ? So wouldn't we be looking at $50 boxes of strawberries ? $20 dollars/hr isn't the kind of wage that people who believe or hope those jobs are coming back are looking for. A manufacturing job, the kind they mean, is one that lifts the working class into the middle class.
>>711448811
How retarded are you? The threat of violence if you dont agree with me is terrorism you fucking mongoloid. The blacks are using terrorism in their dindu protests as well and guess what, people have been shot by the police for it.
>>711448999
>wat r constituencies
>>711448999
America isn't a pure democracy because the founding fathers knew that those fail. This is a democratic republic where electors choose the president. It prevents presidential candidates from not being a president for the entire nation, and just a president of the handful of large cities where half the population resides.
>>711441541
Didn't vote for king Cheeto but he's the president elect so he got the job. I'm a little surprised by the rash of fags and minorities getting beat. It makes me uneasy about whether people can keep their shit together or not. The people protesting trump will have to let it go. He might do ok. I'm guessing it's going to be business as usual based on the people he's surrounded by. In a way I feel the worst for folks who actually believe he can radically change their lot in life
>>711448999
Because we use a representative repupblic. Not a pure democracy. Pure democracy is the 51% marginalizing the 49% our system guarantees you have to win more states as a whole to get the presidency.
>>711448402
>We have a 2 party system here
No you don't. Educate yourself, amerifags.
>>711449106
google terrorism and come back again; ill be waiting for you my friend ;^)
>>711449285
I mentioned something similar earlier but are you also concerned with the fact that his kids are all taking active roles in his presidency?
>>711449205
>America isn't a pure democracy because the founding fathers knew that those fail.
The founding fathers were a bunch of slave owners just too greedy to pay taxes and didn't know shit.
What kind of hypocrite would come would write some shit about everyone being equal while at the same time denying women equal rights and treating people with a different skin color as property?
lmao no do overs.
this man will be electrocuting the gays.
>>711449512
Because Boongs and women are irrational and stupid, they were obviously intelligent enough to see that
>>711449507
That plus the Russian connection plus erosion of NATO plus accelerated climate change. It feels like we are at the tail end of American Greatness, like our day as the great power is done
>>711448610
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-protester-shot-oregon-demonstration/
lmao
>the only real democracy is the one that would have my preferred candidate win
>all other kinds of democracy aren't actually democracy but republic in disguise
OP is right you know. I don't care about what the petition wants - I'm not American either.
I care because some butthurt hypocritical petition against democracy *may* end up being a legally valid document.
Now, I don't think it will, but if enough people shout loud enough there just isn't *any* order any more.
I'm also worried about you Hillaryfags. Can't you see the hypocrisy in that petition? I can smell it from just a thumbnail.
Think. Stop being pawns.
Seriously.
Think.
>>711449729
that happened over ten years ago.
>>711449641
Said the irrational and stupid white man
>>711449375
There may be more parties eligible to run but if you dont vote democrat or republican you effectively dont vote at all.
>>711449764
racist cops
>>711449472
Im done with you. Anyone with any shred of intelligence knows what is being done is terrorism. You have no argument to represent and you apparently have no real belief so just fuck off. Im not playing semantics.
>>711449836
I don't like it either, and if the Republican were McCain or Romney I'd tell people to just accept it.
But shit like putting Ben Carson, Arpaio, and Palin in his administration and wanting to gut the department of Education, the EPA, and throwing out Dodd-Frank makes me believe Trump is seriously as much a threat to the country as a civil war. His presidency can do a lot of harm in a short amount of time.
I'm not going to sign this shit but if it were to succeed I wouldnt be that upset about it.
>>711449956
Nice counter argument, are you 13?
>ILL JUST CALL HIM STUPID THAT'LL SHOW HIM
Question...couldn't people come together and individually 3-5 minute videos of virtually nothing on YouTube and all watch each others videos and get paid for it? YouTube couldn't possibly complain because this generates more wealth for them whether people actually fully watch the videos or not. As long that 15-30 second advertisement gets watched in the beginning it doesn't matter. So why couldn't this work if a large amount of dedicated people came together and decided to watch each others "videos" a day as if that was a job. This wouldn't be hard to organize if everyone had the same name followed by a number. Example. "Youtubename01, Youtubename02, and etc..." This would be quite simple as 01 should only subscribe to 02 and 02 only to 03. Thus after clicking all said videos on the channel you move on. This was generate so much traffic and money and it would legal to boot. Example. YouTube takes 45% of the money you make okay so let's start. Say you have 500 likeminded people. You all make 7 videos a week 3-5 minutes long. You don't even have to watch the full video, only click it. The objective is to get 500 clicks a day per video. Easy enough especially when you have the playlist feauture! Skip right through every video and it counts as a view! So let's do the weekly math. Nevermind the fact you can watch a video more than once a day by either accident or just to boost. Anyway keeping it simple. 500 views multiplied by 7 is only 3500 views now mutiply it by 7 again being that you watch every video daily and you have 24,500 views. Now say everyone watches said video 3-5 times a day maximum as allowed to actually count as a view. That's boosted you up to 73,500 views to 122,500 views in 7 days on 7 different videos putting you at 514,000 to 857,500 all in a weeks time. After Youtube gets there 45% you will make $1,000 to $3,000 per week off all those videos combined and this doubles the next week for those same videos plus you have new ones everyday.
>>711449764
You act like fuckin idiot in public you will probably get shot by police reguardless of your skin color.
>>711450294
bullets are racist because they come out of black guns.
>>711449956
you think
God this reminds me of brexit.
>>711441541
>By petitioning to get Trump unelected your petitioning against democracy
In all fairness the electoral college is against democracy. I am in no way a Hill Shill and I hate her guts but she did actually get popular vote. The only reason Trump won was because of the electoral college.
However when liberals demanded a second referendum for Brexit THAT was against democracy.
>>711450189
im sure somebodys tried to write a bot for that
but organizing tens of thousand of 4chan retards? not a chance
>>711441541
Clinton won the popular vote. The vote of the people. They are literally protesting FOR democracy.
>>711447826
>>711449106
>Threatening violence if you don't agree with me is bad
>Threatens those that don't agree with him with violence
>>711450480
these are the rules though man. why didnt you change them before the vote? makes you think
>>711448780
The only retards here are the ones that voted in for lordship of the spray-on tan cheese curls. And according to, maybe not your post, but previous posts.. conservatives would never riot over killary winning the election. Right, right. Then narcissism and hypocrisy seem to be just a few of the traits found in both your president elect and yourself. Conservaturds just love to remember their history THEIR way. Square up, punk. Your party is one of complete and utter bullshit.
>>711449764
Oh fuck! Another unarmed black killed by cops.
That will be the spark that ignited the impending civil war.
Shit's about to get real /b/
>>711450614
What? People have been asking for the EC to be removed since Bush-Gore.
>>711443862
More people in a state = more people
Trump won because of some SJW Commie style thinking that people in less populated states are a "minority" and therefor should get special treatment. Do you not see the irony in that?
>>711450671
what? i said the baby boomers in swing states who swing the state in close elections are retards. this is true no matter who wins. they dont vote reasonably
im not a conservative
i didnt vote trump
not sure what your point is. maybe dont talk like a dribbling retard
>>711450090
>no argument to represent
what is your argument? subjective feeling that someone protests against your opinion with a little bit violence?
in germany on 1st may we have left portesters who throw molotv cocktails on policecars. nobody calls it "terrorism"; its a riot against the government. nothing more. terrorism demoralizes humans with maximum outcome of violence, look at Paris, 9/11 or things that happen in Iraq/Afghanistan and now call this little riot of yours terrorism. whiny faggots who cant accept other opinions; calling this terrorism is a slap to the face to the true victims of terror.
>>711450596
Its common knowledge that if you threaten police they will shoot you. It is not a threat its commonplace
>>711450108
Sure man, yours is a respectable opinion.
I'm mostly pointing the obvious flaw of the petition, not arguing who'd be a better president. That's another subject entirely.
Only part I can protest against is that you wouldn't be that upset if it were to succeed.
Let's be honest here - there's always some good coming out of every evil, but should we invite said evil in the first place?
The petition is a bad idea, and just because some good comes out of it doesn't make it any better (well it does, slightly, but it's a figure of speech).
Trump being kicked out is like a consolation prize after having a pandora box of who-shouts-louder-gets-their-wishes-done opened.
That being said - at least you stop to think, which is good enough for me.
Wish more Hillaryfags were like you.
>>711451146
I don't condone chimping out on police but peaceful protest is protected by the Constitution.
If people want to protest president cheeto in a reasonable manner, they should be allowed to and not threatened with violence.
>>711441541
Well, it's a petition in accordance with the popular vote. An electoral college is not a democratic institution, it's oligarchic.
I am honestly not surprised. The crybullies were already there, trump winning instead of hillary made them lose their shit. If there has to be a civil war so be it, but when people go rogue on your ass for not thinking the same way, you should defend yourself whatever means necessary.
The main problem with these large groups of people is that they're not stopped. They're not strong, they just advocate for violence when things don't work their way. If it was allowed, they would probably be fought by people who have done more than cry since the day they were conceived. There is nothing strong or courageous about hitting someone who is not physically defending himself, and that sentiment goes away at the sight of a counter group of people who are willing to do the same thing.
If in the next years we see riots like these, people should be prepared. The commonfolk should have measures to decimate instigators if the help of officials isn't enough.
>>711450498
All we need is a couple hundred, I have no idea where you got tens of thousands...
topKek
What a brilliant way to get people to self-sign up for a domestic terrorist list!
>>711442900
How would he effect climate change, women's rights(that's fucking confusing) and science? Are you fucking stupid or just retarded?
>>711451314
They were throwing flaming projectiles at the police the very night before. The protests had already turned violent.
>>711451203
not him but the electorates havent voted yet. its fair play according to their rules to put hillary in.
also ec is a republic. hilary did win the democracy side with the popular vote.
>>711451567
Because Al Gore
>>711451506
yea a couple hundred until you realize that some fuckers are using adblock as a troll and most just wont do it. still too many btards
>>711451717
>youtube
>adblock
U wot m8
>>711450733
>>711450294
>>711450007
mfw none of you have read the article
>>711451567
how would a guy whos putting climate change deniers and religious kooks into power affect climate chane, womens rights, and science? are....are you retarded? well you voted trump so you must be right? you are the idiocracy problem
>>711451567
He is going to expand our oil industry and is trying to remove the EPA. He is also removing us from the Paris treaty and won't be paying into UN climate change fund. So he definitely doesn't have plan on helping the matter
If you want to see what real riots are, go ahead and push the electoral college to elect clinton.
me and the rest of those who voted and won will burn this fucker down and kill all you liberal faggots
>>711452205
Fuck giving anyone outside the country money for anything. We dont need to work with the rest of the world to prosper. This country wasnt founded on a globalist agenda, they wanted out of oppressive rule and thats what you get when your policies are made by someone else. Just look at portugal and how much they have suffered from the EU.
>>711452281
The electoral college will never change the result, because they know how the public voted, and are not dumb enough to cause a shitstorm over reversing it.
Liberal crybabies can dream though...
>>711452281
>won
But you didn't win. At best you put your suggestion in to the EC. You haven't won until they vote Trump in. It's your own mistake to think they have to. They probably will though so don't worry about it.
>>711451589
I'm not criticizing EC here.
I'm criticizing people that went out to vote, *fully and completely aware of the rules regarding the vote, the process of selecting a winner, and all surrounding topics*, and NOW, after the results are in, they want to change the very same rules THEY THEMSELVES AGREED TO BY VOTING.
This isn't about who won the election.
Isn't about whether USA is a democracy or a republic.
It isn't even about EC authority.
It's mostly about human stupidity, hypocrisy and the ever-present possibility that *the vocal minority* decides for the majority.
Now before you claim Hillary got the majority - I'm not talking about Hillary voters.
I'm talking about the "I don't agree with EC" minority that's the foundation of this petition.
That's what this is all about.
>>711452401
are you trolling? you cant possibly be that stupid. if you wanna see what a protectionist country is go live in north korea and eat grass in the winter when you cant import food retard.
>>711452410
The majority of the people voted Hillary.
That's what makes the US voting system so retarded.
>>711441928
Pure democracy is a shitty system. The Electoral College with our democratic Republic allows a system that gives smaller states a say
>>711447896
Considering the fact that only 7% of worlds population has IQ in the range of 100-115 and under 2% has 115 and higher, we can safely say neither left or right is more intelligent, it's the individuals.
Now which side has more intelligent individuals? we wont know until someone provides official, legitimate statistics data.
>>711441541
President's don't run the country anyway...the media and corporations do. Autogenocide is their plan...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmF8Y9ZWzn4
>>711452815
Military, absentee, Michigan, and New Hampshire aren't done counting yet, so I doubt that will be the case once they have finished.
Anyway, the electoral system was put in place for a good reason.
>>711447896
education =/= intelligence
education = knowledge
>>711452712
they dont want to change the rules. the rules say electorates vote for who they want. their puny petition is trying to get them to vote hillary in. theres nothing wrong or hypocritical with it and its not going to matter anyway.
the rules havent declared trump the winner yet. it would be hypocritical if the dems wanted ec changed after trump was in office
>>711452815
ec college is fine. the problem is that boomers who swing the states are retards. the actual system of ec is fine, the problem is thst it benefits the idiots right now
if you want to fix the real problems, we need rank voting and non partison gerrymandering
>>711452775
Implying america didnt grow its own food for 100+ years before we set up the global trade. North korea is in the situation its in because the government has no ability to run a country.
>>711452965
And Trump has already caused great damage to them, and they know it. He wasn't just running against the Hillary and the democrats. He was also running against the media, and the majority of the GOP, and the entire establishment.
The people spoke, Trump won. Their days are numbered. They know this, and hence they are paying these protesters to go out and stir the pot. Look at the philly craigslist and you can see ads for them. They will attempt to fight this until the end, but they have already lost.
>>711451717
Adblock doesn't affect the views. The people who wouldn't do it are the same people who are ignoring this convo and or are just lurking. Are you interested in doing it or just say naysaying? I actually know people off this website that know people that know people and etc...trust me. I can find and know a few hundred people who would love to stay at home and click through some videos 2-3 hours a day seven days a week to make a couple hundred grand a year. Remember the math right? An average of 100K views coming to every video 7 days a weeks so after two weeks you'll have a video at already 200K plus with 13 other videos ranging from 25K to 200K views. Putting you let's just say 14 videos with an average view of 100K when you add up all your views. That puts you at 1,400,000 views in two weeks. Youtube gets their 45% and get the 55% of that 1.4 million views which is about $800 in a week. Mind you next week your views will increase by the same variable. By a month you would be at $2,000 a week. This only increases. If I can't find a few hundred people to do this then that's retarded.
>>711452815
>majority of the people voted Hillary.
>US voting system retarded
>people voted hilary
>system retarded
>system
no, that means us citizens are uninformed and dumb on top of being brainwashed for years.
Protesting is American. The protests should be peaceful, but people are dumb. Just look who we elected. Better the liberals protest than the militant white supremist supported Republicans. I'll take a flipped car to a mass shooting. There is no way in he'll Trump will be able to do half the shit he promises. Democrats are disappointed now Republicans have 4 years of disappointment coming.
>>711441541
This is EXACTLY how the National Socialist Movement started in Germany, yet here they are screaming the name "Hitler!" at everyone...
It's only "Patriotic" to protest when you AREN'T a total mongoloid incapable of actually researchingra topic.
Please read "Facts amd Fascism" from the 1950's. What became the Nazi party actually started off a misguided bunch of poor degenerates that was tricked and funded by corporate Germany.
>>711452712
That's wrong however. The right to petition the Electors isn't something that's just been made up. It's been done before. Trump hasn't won the presidency yet.
>Vocal minority
Considering she won the popular vote, I wouldn't exactly say it's a vocal minority.
Anyway this is pointless after she conceded. She effectively isnt a candidate anymore.
>>711441541
You are absolutely right bro.
But it's no use talking to the 9Gag/reddit Numales that own /b/ now.
>>711453194
you mean when we had less people than the number of pubes on my balls? we have 350million people retard.
im sure youre an expert on how nkorea runs its country right. yeah tell me 3 policies, specifically, that the gov fucked up.
theres too many issues that need to be solved globally like trade and energy to become n korea. if you dont understand why then stay away from the polls retard, you are the idiocracy
>>711453323
well fuck yea i would do it if its legal. and adblock doesnt run the ads so do they even count?
>>711453459
Keep telling yourself that loser. The republicans won every part of the election the people are tired of the apologizing for nothing, money wasting, terrorist negotiating democrats that have been fucking this country up for 8 years. We had all but won the war in iraq when obama decided to pull out all the fighting troops, a lot of fucking good that did to destabilize the entire middle east.
>>711453367
It's this line of thinking that lost Democrats the white house.
Don't make the same mistake.
>>711453503
>a misguided bunch of poor degenerates that was tricked and funded by corporate Germany
fast forward:
a misguided bunch of poor degenerates that was tricked and funded by george soros.
The chances of the electoral collage overturning the vote is close to impossible. Hillary has already conceded, and Trump has already began his transition into the white house. And ignoring the will of the voters in such a dramatic way, it would suffer the purpose of the representative democracy. And on some accounts, could lead to a constitutional crisis
>>711446500
>no you are the indoctrinated
>>711441541
I guess no one can doubt that the US election system is undemocratic. At least the fact that votes of a whole district can be just deleted because something went wrong in this distrcit is undemocratic bullshit. But there is only one democratic way to solve this. Accept this election, and try to change it until the next election.
But Trump now elected, and everyone has to accept that without crying like a little baby.
>>711441541
But he was the one not wanting to acknowledge the possible outcome of Hillary being elected as President in the first place did he?
>Being such a hypocrit
>Faggot
>>711453161
You are probably correct and my ignorance on the subject shows.
This changes things dramatically.
It means that this petition is worth literally nothing, since a lot more people than what the 4.5 M signatures is meant to symbolize showed their support for Hillary during the vote.
Literally what's the point.
>>711453547
>That's wrong however
Yup, I got it. Read my response to a very similar post if you want ^
>>711453939
correct, its a pointless petition meant to make hillary voters feel a little less sad
>>711453628
You are complete retard, the country has only been suffering from globalist economics, we have our own land to farm, our own oil to drill, our own gold to mine. The only reason we are in the trouble we are in financially is too many foreign interests. North korea is a shitty example of a nationalist country, they have always been garbage. Its a dictatorship. There is literally no reason we as a nation should outsource jobs to mexico, china, taiwan, india or any of those lesser thans. America was prospering in the 50s because our industry was nationalized, not globalized. Then we got the hippie movement in the 60s and 70s which weakened our nations bonds with itself then readanomics in the 80s that lead to the global economy you have today (a fucking nightmare) nationalism is the only way for a sovereign nation to remain that way. Globalism requires people to cast their nationalities aside and that doesnt work in this world.
>>711441541
>pretending Trump supporters would have graciously accepted a Hillary win
>pretending the Electoral College has handed the presidency to a Democrat in this century
>being this delusional
I have been campaigning against the Electoral College ever since the 2000 election
>>711441541
Ok mostly spot on but..... The United States of America is in fact a Republic. Clinton did Concede. It is not the popular idea to try and do some weird shit with the Electoral Collage to eliminate Trump. It is only the Opinion of the Race Baiting SJW's who can't form their own opinion. They are still the Minority which is good. Fuck em anyway. None of them could operate a Government if one was handed to them so why listen to them anyway? They only Protest because they are enabled, given a ride on a fancy bus to go cause civil unrest. They wouldn't do it on their own. There is no compensation when they are by themselves. They are keeping with the status quo of their ill conceived entitlement. All of this is quite obvious... I shouldn't need to explain it.
>>711453809
Its a democratically elected representative republic.
>>711441541
>petitiong against democracy
Us electoral sytstem is anything but democratic.
In a democracy since when the votes of a state are worth more than another? Since when the votes of people in a state are worth more than the votes of the people in another?
You're a fucking joke. No wonder why your country is neck deep in shit.
>u haet deomacrcacy :C :C :C
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/09/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-popular-vote/index.html
>>711441541
i dont care i dont live in usa, seeing trump as president would be a hell of fun
>>711454714
>Us electoral sytstem is anything but democratic.
The US is *not* a democracy idiot, it's a republic.
Holy fuck you libs are literally acting like a little child who didn't get his way so you're throwing a tantrum and stamping your feet.
Grow the fuck up, you lost the election, there will be others. Get over it.
>>711454714
You dont understand much do you?
Electoral votes are based on the states population. States with more people=higher electoral vote for the state.
The only state that needs to be changed is california. It shouldnt be one state, norcal and socal are on completely different political spectrums.
>>711454815
Then stop bitching about the petition to get Trump unelected, and how is "petitioning against democracy".
The people trying this garbage have more in common with trump than they even realize.
>>711446027
this !
>>711455081
>Then stop bitching
I'm not..... I'm laughing at all of the temper tantrums being thrown.
>>711454279
our economy only benefitted from free trade dumbass. the problem with free trade is not the global trading part. the problem with free trade is that it fucked the workers and benefitted the owners
yeah lets all become farmers. that makes sense. trumps slogan shouldve been lets make america 1800 again! fuck technological advances, lets focus on growibg fucking corn. in case you didnt know, a yuge portion of america can only grow certain crops seasonally. we wouldnt have any fucking fruit, barely any veggies, and mostly grain. is that what you want? to eat grain all day in the winter? spices, sugar, sauces are all bye bye. youre too fucking dumb
our own oil well thats a relief for 5 years. we should just tell syria and mexico to get fucked then. we can send you overseas to tell em and you just stay there
the reason our economy sucks is bc its centered around weasel owners making money by charging you to borrow their money. when thats your system, the interest has to come from somewhere and its not going to magically appear.
nkorea is garbage. good argument cletus you dumbass redneck. how bout those 3 policies?
hippie cultures and globalists woooo scary words. any substance? any argument to back it up? any?
jobs get outsourced bc the fuckin owners hoard the money instead of innovate their products retard. and the ones that do innovate use automation. the owners took your job. the mexicans didnt take it, the owner moved it to mexico.
youre literally too stupid to vote. you have no arguments, no plan, you just say shit. i can see why you voted for trump
>>711455243
So am I man, so am I. But there are a metric fuckton of contradictions within murricans, it's just depressing.
>>711442737
Always in his voice, too. Every time
>>711450827
So why should some faggot in california get to decide the future leader of someone in pennsylvania? The electoral college is a much more fair system and ensures even smaller states have their voice heard.
>united kingdom
>>711441541
all you are doing, and the other side is doing is twisting words around and quoting phrases you see (incorrectly). Both sides are doing this because either side you are on you come from a Everyone is a Winner to a You are special and your opinions matter background.
Both need to grow up, Stop crying and stop bullying. The problems america has and will be facing, regardless of who the puppet (Potus) is, will never be solved or managed if the population cannot unite to become a real country. While this will never happen.
>>711441541
Tea party anybody? Birther movement? Impeaching Clinton for getting a bj?
FUCK YOU.
>>711441541
If this were to actually happen, it WILL cause Civil War #2, and I will be happy to join the fracas.
>>711455669
>Impeaching Clinton for getting a bj?
Whhhhaaaaat?
Not for getting a BJ you simple fuck, for lying under oath.
>>711441541
Just let Trump have his 4 years
What's the worse that could happen... Another 9/11
>>711455152
I like how the trumptards do not care about how weak and flip flopping there leader really is.
>>711441541
The electoral college IS a broken system. And I voted for Trump, and I'm perfectly fine with him being president.
I remember all of the shills saying "Hillary's going to win. The GOP is done for 50 years. Trump literally destroyed it."
Hmmm, seems that they were wrong on ALL fronts. Trump won, a shit ton of new republican governors were elected, republicans kept the house, republicans now control the senate, republicans are now united.....
Meanwhile the democrat party is imploding.
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/305617-seething-liberals-vow-revolution-in-democratic-party
>>711455490
>maximum trigger mode initiated.
holy fuck dont have a stroke you dumb cunt. You dont know fuck all about anything.
>>711456174
he is yet more proof that our public education system has failed miserably.
>>711456174
yeah resort to your pussy bullshit since you have no substance. being edgy is a plan right? being edgy and ad hominem are your arguments. its clear why you voted for trump.
you are the idiocracy that elected him.
>>711456306
samefagging to make yourself feel better after you got btfo huh. crawl back to your safe space trumpet
>>711441541
I protest the electoral college in general, but you don't change the rules just because you got a result that you didn't like.
However, it is worth nothing that the last 2 Republican presidents only attained their office due to the inherent problems that exist because of the electoral college. In the past 7 elections, the only time the Republican candidate managed to win the popular vote was in 2004. And it can be argued that Bush's victory then was due to him riding the post-9/11 high we still had going.
Republicans may not riot, but they have benefited twice in less than 20 years from a system that favors an error-prone procedure that denies the majority their choice. Also, they have been pretty unbearable for the past 8 years with all of their birther crap and anti-ACA crap.
>>711441541
>berg
>>711456498
>making the mistake of thinking anyone cares about your opinion or feelings
>>711441928
>No, you're protesting the electoral college in favor of the popular vote
If they were ever to change the already done election and go by popular vote Trump would claim recount and after the fraudulent & dead people are disqualified, Trump would win. Again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psxcYKARg3Y
>>711456791
>trying to hide that youre a retard
>>711456498
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grD_IINiH9c
>>711443753
Yup.
/thread
>>711445215
You're an uneducated cunt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6s7jB6-GoU
>>711457168
>right-wing propaganda
>>711457250
>>711447987
Bring it. Then the National guard comes in, or even active military. Trump supporters would be on the good side.
It would get ugly & in then end, they will still lose.
>>711456498
>im gonna use my triggered buzzwords to try an get a rise out of some btards haw haw haw
>accuses someone of samefagging
Bitch please thats just another guy that thinks youre a complete fucking retard.
YOU LOST, YOU WILL LOSE AGAIN. ASSUMPTIONS ASSUMPTIONS ASSUMPTIONS.
You dont know anything at all. I wrote in trey gowdy for president you stupid cocksucker. Your shitty candidate is what got gim elected, she couldnt win last time and she couldnt do it this time, fuck you.
>>711449304
>>711449205
Constitutional republic. Land based on laws by the Constitution.
A Republic is representative government ruled by law (the United States Constitution).
A Democracy is government ruled by the majority (mob rule).
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>>711456791
i slapped this kid so bad his entire sjw support group had to fight his battle. awww :( at least you still have your tendies
>>711457508
Yes a representative republic with democratically elected representatives, we employ both systems as a check and balance method.
>>711457250
propaganda?
Its a fucking explanation on how the electoral college works you fucking dolt.
>>711457631
>i slapped this kid so bad
>>711457631
You are such a fucking retard that you think you are winning here. The only fix for you is to shoot you in the backyard like a horse with a broken leg.
>>711457664
>we employ both systems as a check and balance method
exactly. The only reason this is a flawed system is because the basement dwellers still on mommy's tit & insurance until they are 26 years fucking old didn't get their way.
bunch of cry baby cunts.
>>711441541
lol, thinks the electoral college is democracy. this faggot probably thinks the US is a democracy. don't get me wrong, i voted for trump...but OP is a total faggot that doesn't know wtf he is talking about.
Blame the DNC. They cater to these faggots.
>>711457692
How are the electoral voters chosen?
Rural voters get their representation through the U.S. senate and districts in the U.S. house of representatives. Which is why, big surprise, they are controlled by Republican majorities.
The head of the executive government should not be elected via this outmoded method simply because he represents all Americans. If a candidate wins the popular vote, yet loses the electoral vote, then it's obvious that some people's votes were not worth as much as others.
I challenge any person here to name one governor (head of a state executive branch) who is elected through an arbitrary number assigned to certain counties. Such a thing doesn't exist, because it doesn't make sense, unless of course its your candidate who won.
>>711441541
Link pls.
>>711457998
the UNITED STATES is a country made up of states which have specific powers. the states are not the united counties you dumb dumb fuck. L2 government
>>711457967
Former politicians mostly. Bill Clinton is one. But they are governed by state laws for the states which they represent.
>>711457776
keep crying little man. maybe mommy will take your for chocey ice cream after dinner
>>711458099
Exactly. And the fed has been usurping power from the states for the past 12+ years, and the people have had enough.
>>711457998
Do you know the difference between a governor and the president?
One is state level (non federal) and one is the head of the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
the state isnt a union of counties, the country is a union of states. This is why there is no electoral college for state level government.
>>711458157
call me little man again and ill fucking kill you bro, ill fucking find you and kill you. im a computer genius, i have your ip and adderss. don't make me fucking kill you bro
>>711457998 ^^ this is a mathematical proof that some peoples votes dont count as much as others when voting for a president, the only way the electoral college could be legitimized is if each state split its electoral votes as a proportion of the votes of the people
>>711441541
The petition is a useless gesture anyway. Hillary has already conceded, meaning she surrendered her candidacy and the unbound electoral votes couldn't change to her if they wanted to
>>711458101
Ok, but who/what decides who becomes one?
>>711458258
google electoral college, read and get edumacated, come back and appologize for being such a faggot
I think every liberal "boo hoo Trump" thread should officially be declared spiderman threads....
>>711458099
call me a dumb fuck, doesn't matter, your'e poor I'm not, which is why you're about to get cucked by the conman that told you your shitty min wage job would be protected from illegals by deporting them and building a wall. you're about as politically versed as the 6th grader who votes for their class president because they'll get friday off and can wear hats in class. I personally do not care who the president is, your'e the one who is losing and crying :( :(
>>711458157
Youre pathetic.
Just sad really.
I feel bad for you being such a dumb fucker.
You lost, you will always lose, you are a loser.
>stop projecting your faggotry on everyone else.
>>711458239
Hey fuck you, dont try to pretend to be me.
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>>711458433
your virgin rage is showing. once you get laid, things will change for you. if a girl will even touch you.
>>711458651
Funny coming from you.
Mommy will probably take away your internet priveleges if she finds out about the way your behaving francis.
>>711458651
Even Hillary knows that most of her young supporters are basement dwelling virgins. If you haven't heard about this, then you should go read the wikileaks.
The electoral collage is an outdated, outmoded, poorly conceived government obstruction of democracy. More Americans voted for Clinton than for Trump. What democracy are you fucking talking about?
>>711458651
Btw figure out who the fuck youre talking to
>>711441541
>change.org
>>711458902
the US is not a democracy, so your point is pure faggotry. it works as was intended and for good reason
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>>711444673
rofl...wut?
>my vote should count more because I don't live in a city
>>711458902
We have the electoral college because the minority rural towns and counties are vastly under represented in state voter tally
>>711458826
>your
trumpets cant figure out 2nd grade grammar. not surprising
>>711458862
not a hillary supporter dumbass
>>711458942
samefagging again
>>711459165
w/o electoal college 4 states would basically decide every election.
>>711459165
You're clearly an idiot.
The US is a union of states, all wanting fair representation within that union. Go educate yourself a little, and you won't make yourself look so dumb next time.
>>711459235
no...sigh...no. we a re a country of states. it is to give states representation in voting for president...not goat fuckers who live in the countryside
>>711448841
Except that's not where most people live.
There are more people there compared on state-to-state basis, but they don't make up the majority of USA.
>>711459297
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>>711459344
No you completely undermine the minority when you abolish electoral college. If we simply have what you speak of then we might have never abolished slavery or have women the chance to vote because majority wouldn't have allowed it
Why are the territories still not allowed to have an influence on who becomes the next president, no electoral voters given to these?
>>711459244
Im just gonna let your pathetic bitch ass fade into obscurity now, im done entertaining your retardation. Youre really grasping at straws now. You dont even know what samefagging is apparently. Goodbye littlw snowflake, i hope you melt violently in the abyss.
>>711459100
The electoral collage was intended to strip the vote from idiots, like Trump supporters, in the event those people were able to elect someone who was a genuine danger to the nation. So, you're bitching because the people who oppose your candidate want the electoral collage to do what the founders intended it to do (usurp the people's vote).
I want to either get rid of the archaic and bullshit system, or go back to the era when only white, male, landowners were allowed to cast a ballot. I just want some god damned consistency.
>>711459275
States don't get votes, citizens do. You're dumb.
>>711459297
And the president being chosen by popular vote undermines statehood how?
>>711459543
gave up without an argument as all trumpets do. farewell faggot get a doctor look at that ass since i just beat it
>>711459809
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNbF9PI9Gjo
>>711459897
That was kekworthy as fuck.
>>711459543
How does something "melt violently?" And "melting into an abyss" seems like you're just trying to string moderately obscure words together in an attempt to appear intelligent.
You don't need to try so hard.
Name my gerbil /b/, she's gray if that helps
Dubs decides
Would post pic but my connection is too busy eating ass to help
>>711460068
Agreed. It's hard to watch without breaking into laughter yourself.
>>711460172
nigger faggot
