Autism Test.
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Autism Test.
Who gives a fuck, dubs and guy below me dies tonight
Mulititrackdrifting.jpg
with the given information don't move the train and kill the five, then stab the 6th guy, kill all the whiteys
>>711359685
It sucks, but it's gotta be option 2 unless there's some third option I'm meant to figure out.
>>711359685
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolley_problem
Does that mean I pass?
>>711359902
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/727/DenshaDeD_ch01p16-17.png
its a png faggot
Tie your dick around the lever and masturbate furiously.
Let fate decide the rest.
>>711359685
Dont move an inch, record and post on /b/
>>711359685
nobody can blame me for not doing anything right?
>>711359685
trick question!
operate the lever once the front wheels have passed and you can drift over all of them
>>711360432
Well, maybe the friends and relatives of those five people you watched die, but other than those you're good.
>>711360432
i'm sure some people would say that not doing anything is wrong as being that that situation makes you responsible
>>711360419
dam, you beat me to it
>>711359685
i do nothing.
i'm not authorized to use railroad mechanics.
Vigorously pull the lever backwards and forwards until it breaks.
>>711360419
>the fucking face
>>711359685
either way you're getting charged with manslaughter if you touch that lever
Build a wall!
>>711360575
>>711360592
amigoing to jail?
>>711359685
Conservatives will save 5 African Americans and send the train into a single white person.
Black liberals fail this test reliably. They'll send the train into any number of white people to save a single black person every single time.
This was in a recent pod cast i took in.
ur a fag
>>711359685
pull the lever and kill the survivor; no witness.
dont joke about Autism, ppl...its a real disease with real consequneces
pics or it didnt happen
>>711361039
It's a hypothetical ethics test
The second part deals with sufficiently fat person off an overpass in front of the train to stop it from killing 5 more people on the tracks.
>>711361743
fuck out of here
>>711359685
There is no correct choice without further elaboration.
So take your b8 and shove it up your ass you fucking idiot.
The five could be death row inmates, the one could be your child.
The five could be your immediate family, the one could be a total stranger.
Fuck off.
>>711359685
what does this have to do with autism you autist?
>do nothing, I need my lever muscles rested for fapping
>>711360891
>>711361039
This.
Continue eating my sandwich on the track side bank and enjoy the show.
Return to work and discuss events with co-workers.
>>711359685
I'd jump in front of the trolley
>>711361950
/thread
>>711362081
>>711359685
Pull lever
Run and catch off the last one
Fuck his dead body if I fail.
Fuck him while restrained and then safe him if I manage it.
Lastly fuck everyone else before set free.
>>711359685
Who is willing to pay the most, the 1 guy or the 5 guys? Bid fast fellas.
>>711362315
Obviously the 5 could come up with more money
Unless the 1 is a millionaire or something.
Also any one of them could lie..
>>711362437
Yea but they tied to a track.
If they lie, just wait for the next train.
>>711362081
You autistic fuck, then there would be 6 casualties.
>my body would provide enough force to stop the trolley
>>711362593
Ah, youve outsmarted me and I went to community college.
>>711362674
I think he meant he wanted to die.
To sleep forever
>>711359685
I love these. The only answer is do to nothing. Not my fault, not my problem. Trying to help would only bring about liability.
>>711362593
We should hang out. Do you like starbucks and handjobs?
>>711359685
Killing a guy vs not killing anyone.
What a hard choice.
THE NEEDS OF THE MANY OUTWEIGH THE NEEDS OF THE FEW
PULL THAT LEVER COMRADE AND REVEL AND REEL WHILE THAT BOURGEOIS ON HIS PRIVATE TRACK GETS SEIZED BY THE MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION
>>711362776
I prefer alcohol and wildly inappropriate sex, but I'll come along if you want.
>>711363127
Kek, This is best.
>>711360076
Underrated
>>711360419
WHY does this make me laugh so much keklmao
>>711361248
I had that as wallpaper a couple days ago, its still trumptastic
>>711359685
>do nothing
>tell the judge I have autism, and can't be held criminally liable for my actions
No prison for me, mang.
Wheres the one with the girlfriend telling him her entire family isn't home
>>711359685
Morally, killing the one guy is the best choice with the given information
If I knew more about the people on the tracks I'd potentially change my answer
Legally, moving the lever would make me responsible for the death of that one person. Not doing anything leaves me free legally from responsibility over the death of the five.
I am autistic.
>>711363843
>>711364030
There it is!
>>711359685
I pull the lever half.It goes on the middle.
>>711363647
You would not be accounted for anything you dumbass.
Theres no law that obliques you to be a hero.
>>711362896
Saving 5 guys and killing one
As someone who determines the value of human life on an individual basis and having little time to react, I would attempt to make educated assessments about the people or person I would be sparing and those or the one I would allow to die. Here are some examples.
Option 1: The person on the lone track is a beloved family member and the five others are complete strangers
Outcome: Don't touch the lever out of selfish need for emotional gratification
Option 2: All people tied to the tracks are strangers, but the group of five are wearing federal prison jumpsuits and the solitary person is a man in a suit with a nice watch
Outcome: Don't touch the lever, save taxpayers 30 grand per inmate and allow the man to continue his job to pay 30 grand in taxes the next year
Option 3: The group of five looks like fairly normal people and the solitary person is wearing a shirt with the Reddit logo, holding a MLP plush and I can smell him all the way from the lever.
Outcome: Pull the lever out of disgust
Option 4: The group of five are all family members and the solitary person is my fiancee
Outcome: Since it say I cannot derail without the loss of life, that implies I can derail with the loss of life. Seeing as the only other person in the picture is me, I would derail the trolley and kill myself.
There are of course more situations that would need thinking about.
Yes, I'm very autistic.
>>711364218
The only thing I see is: killing one guy and having blood in your hands vs killing nobody.
Ez choice.
>>711359685
I'd be playing moral machine on my phone and miss the whole thing
>>711364030
Holy fuck my sides are in pure orbit right now thank you lolololol
>>711364766
Jumping over 5 people.
Why I would choose jumping high over jumping a long ass distance?
I would save the group with the hottest chick and carry her off to service me.
Unless the group of 5 had a couple good looking ones, then I might save them to start a harem.
>>711359685
>Implying Kant was an autist
Deontology all the way you heretics.
>>711363801
Pull it, it'll kill the trolley guy which will in turn make it so that the trolley problem never happened
>>711364766
Push mongo, jump high over the one person, revert to shift my momentum and jump over the five people.
>>711359685
wut?
perhaps you don't understand that autists have accounted for every single super genius this planet has ever seen
most of you advancements of mankind are owed to autists
it always surprises me at how ignorant 4chan is in use of the term "autist" in a derogatory sense to mean dumb when the exact opposite is true, albeit those on the spectrum can vary significantly
>>711364922
Save it, it's all yours my friend!
>>711364656
You have a moral obligation to act, e.g. by not moving a simple lever you're already participating
There are some rare trolleys in this thread and they're all mine now.
A runaway trolley is heading down a track towards five people counting the millions of ballots in favour of Trump. Ex-secretary Clinton finds herself near a switching mechanism that would steer away the trolley from the five people, sending it to hit and destroy the ballots instead.
What should Ms Clinton do, destroy the evidence, or involve those who know the truth in an "accident"?
>>711365175
Yeah no
Shouldn't your autism want a citation
>>711361743
>Autism
>Consequences will never be the same
>>711365237
Can anyone draw this one?
>>711365175
yeah dude they're fucking geniuses. All of them.
>>711365233
>you have the moral obligation
No I don't.
>>711365345
No because it is fully sentient which means able to perceive or feel things. It would have its own dilemma and the burden would be shifted away from me as I was replaced.
>>711365175
There's no prove that any of those had autism you fucking tard.
>>711365621
He goes by the name Christiana Chan now you shitlord.
>>711362944
Highly underrated
>>711365924
Jump out of the window and die.
>>711359685
That's not an autism test. It's a thought experiment that demonstrates the level to which humans do or don't want to be responsible for the lives of others despite the logical choice. It's emotion vs. logic.
An autism test would be (very shortened and watered down):
Kara and Lee go for a date. It's horrible. Lee says "that was fun, right?". Kara is annoyed. She looks at him and says "oh yeah. I had SUUCH a good time"
Most would say shes being sarcastic. An autist would say almost every time shes lying to him because she doesn't want to hurt his feelings.
>>711366121
5/3 > 1
Pull the lever.
>>711359685
"Runaway" seems to imply this is some sort of accident, whereas there being five people tied to a train track seems to imply that it's on purpose. I obviously need a lot more context here.
This >>711365175
Nikola Tesla was a notorious autist.
Also, ops image is a test in ETHICS and nothing else. It has nothing to do with autism, intelligence, or anything else.
Therefore, the only correct answer is:
Op is a fag.
To be more precise:
Op is a dumbass fag.
>>711365175
Found the autist.
>>711366438
your a fag
that's rigjt, op here/
>>711359685
Pull the lever towards the single person, then quickly run to him and cut his throat before the trolley can kill him
>>711365175
Go to r9k and see why everyone uses autist as an insult you autistic fuck.
>>711359685
Simple. You derail it into the orphanage and puppy daycare that isn't pictured. It's not technically derailing it without loss of life.
>>711359685
The image says we can't derail it without loss of life. But can we not substitute it with a zamboni that way everyone gets so bored of waiting they just kill themselves anyway?
>>711359685
Correct choice is to do nothing. If you make a choice and change the track, you killed that person. By doing nothing, it is the train conductor's fault.
>>711359685
Pull the lever
Then untie the 1 guy
There is a loss of a life (you)
everyone else is saved
>>711367098
Correct, but their death would be the fault of whoever tied them up, not the conductor.
>>711366409
Well, it's not the trolley's fault that it can't stop.
But yes, you eagle-eyed super sleuth, the fact that there are people tied to the tracks in a setup that seems almost fiendishly engineered to force a contentious moral choice might, just MIGHT, lead one to expect foul play is involved.
>>711365621
Cwc. The king and queen of 4chan.
>>711359685
Operate the lever so to kill all of them and help overpopulation.
>>711365345
Yes because I would be questioning why I'm not fucking that sweet, sweet ass.
>>711359685
Pull when the front wheels are on the switch so the back wheels safely derail the train. Killing no one.
>>711365621
not him, but . . .
>you say "all"
>can you not read "vary significantly" >>711365175
maybe go ask your parents if there is a difference there
also, fyi, your pic is not an autist
>not knowing the difference between a fag and an autist
apparently you don't even know that.
kid, you are one dumb motherfucker
maybe get off the internet and see if the normal kids, ya know, the ones "outside", will not beat you up today for being a faggot
>>711365104
And then what?
>>711365175
Those people were not autistic, they did have various mood or personality disorders.
Autism is just another form of retardation, not any creative brilliance.
>>711361950
Implying that makes a difference. All human lifes are equal.
>>711359685
Multitrackdrifting meme besides, how I'd react in this actual situation idk, but I'd probably choose to pull the lever and sacrifice one life for 5 lives.
The only reason that would influence me is if I knew a person tied down and that person would mean a lot to me. I wouldn't sacrifice 1 life for 5, if that 1 person would mean a lot to me.
>>711367307
You're right, I wasn't paying attention enough
This is the last one I've got
>>711364543
There's one option you missed - there may be another lever down the track where you can divert the trolly back and kill the final 5 people or 1 person. In which case you would skull fuck all six and feel sexually satisfied at the end, the most optimal outcome.
>>711367098
Also the conductor tied them to the tracks.
Also, you are the conductor.
>>711365950
actually there is plenty of proof that tesla was autistic as fuck
go read a book
btw, there's plenty of proof that you are an imbecile
maybe, oh say take your post for example
let me know when you figure out how your post shows you are an actual retard
hint: asks for proof
hint 2: you can never "prove" a negative
hint 3: they're dead
Conclusion: it is Chris Chan. A fag. Like you.
>>711359685
Option (1)
You would be intentionally killing someone otherwise.
>>711367547
>doesn't know who cwc is
I'm almost jealous.
>>711363858
No because those dumb fucks could've just let the trolley fall off the tracks by not building it.
>>711367853
That's true. I did mention there were other possible outcomes. I was just going by what was given in the picture. Even so, this is a more relevant problem.
>>711367826
...and at the end, even if the trolley is diverted, it will go up a slope and come back down again, only for the situation to repeat the next day. But one must imagine the lever puller happy...
>>711368040
That's a dumb statement.
If someone runs at me with a knife, I can kill that perosn to protect my own life. Vice versa I can choose to flip a switch in order to save 5 lives and sacrifice 1. Because in the end, people will die anyways. If I just stand there doing nothing, 5 will die. If I choose to take action, 1 dies. I can safely say you wouldn't be held accountable for the persons death since the lives of 5 people was on the line.
>>711359685
only legal and sensible option is to leave it as you found it. if you get involved in any way you are liable.
As a doctor once told me when talking about what they are unofficially taught to do if they came across a car crash or other accident with possible injuries - "turn around, walk away as fast as possible and don't give it a second thought".
>>711359685
>Take out phone
>film 5 people getting cut to ribbons
>sell to news stations
>profit
>>711359685
KILL ALL HUMANS
>>711367997
Hahaha
You're fucking autistic.
>>711367693
"Equal"
>>711359784
Kill yourself worthless piece of shit
>>711368335
So what do you think about the follow-up problem where you're on an overpass next to the fat man who could stop the trolley with his body? Do you push him and sacrifice one to save five? Would you also demand not to be held accountable in that case since five lives were on the line?
>>711367693
>equal
this is false.
this >>711366188
op is gay to call it autism test
just shows he is a fucking retard
and technically both answers are correct, though sarcasm requires speculation so may actually be wrong whereas certainly there was lying (good time not true as she is annoyed, but this doesn't mean bad time, therefore not necessarily sarcasm, but definitely lying because untrue) and had Kara just said she had a shit time she clearly would have hurt his feelings given he had a fun time so yeah, her answer clearly indicates she wanted to do other than make him feel bad and be blunt as to her feelings to the opposite of his
most of time, it is human's interpretation of things that gets them in trouble and that is where the autists interpretation is pure and unclouded
also, whereas a normie's power of observation actually decline throughout his life, and drastically so in early development, an autists actually increase and build on themselves
think of it as someone constantly employing the scientific method for each piece of information that comes in, without bias, and without being hampered by past (often incorrect, and filtered) experiences and notions of how the world works
>>711368579
KEEEEEEEEEEEK
>>711366794
>knowing r9k even exists
>knowing how to spell it
>caring
>being this fucking confirmed retarded yet calling others' autist
LOL
>>711368413
And I'm sure you'd be happy to have him for your doctor when you're bleeding out in a wrecked car.
This is the correct answer if you're looking out for number one, sure. Make sure no potential survivors saw your face first, though.
>>711368040
In the original version, there were just oblivious people in each of the locations. My thought was that the the larger group should just fuck themselves, because they weren't paying attention anyway. In this situation though, I would pull the lever. The group and the single person are both victims, so I'll choose the lesser.
>>711368413
It's a dumb ass excuse. You have been put there and 5 lives are on the line.
Your decision will not get you in any trouble, even if you choose to pull the lever.
If someone runs towards you with a knife, you can kill that person if necessary and you will not face any consequences. You have the right to defend your own life and you have the right to kill someone else if someone else's life is on the line.
In this case, it would be more like a sacrifice to save 5 lives, but no one would sue you because of that. Even if, you couldn't be held accountable.
Don't forget, you have 2 options. Do nothing or pull the lever. You aren't just coming by by accident, you have been placed in this situation by someone else. You cannot just walk away. You only have 2 options and neither will get you in trouble.
>>711366188
Actually it's an ethics test to demonstrate utilitarianism
>>711368335
True but wrong.
Unfortunately you took in to consideration the fact that out leader/ politicians/ and law enforcement aren't retarded.
They are!
You did the best you could but you still receive a jail sentence.
>>711364011
Here you would still be charched with 'denying help to people in need' when not pulling the lever
>>711368747
Implying a human weights enough to stop a thing like that. Besides that being an even dumber example, no.
If I have to kill someone directly, no. As example, I wouldn't push someone off a cliff to fall on a button that stops the trolley. I maybe would consider throwing myself off, If I care about those people (family, friends), but not throw the person off.
There is still a difference between pressing a button/pushing a lever and directly pushing someone into death.
>>711367098
The correct answer would be to intentionally kill the one person so that the others may live. According to utilitarianism, this act would save 4 lives and attribute to the greater good.
>>711369296
I bet those 5 people I saved and the media wouldn't like that too much.
And just because the government is retarded, doesn't mean they can't be forced to release me.
Because again, I have been placed in this situation. It's not like I was on a walk and then ended up there. I have 2 options. Walking away isn't one.
>>711369614
save 5*
on the first track are 5 not 4
There is four people on one side and 1 on the other but if it were accurate I would let it kill five
>>711369476
>There is still a difference between pressing a button/pushing a lever and directly pushing someone into death.
This seems to be what most people believe, yes, showing that we don't think in purely utilitarian terms (X lives saves/lost). I was just checking. :-)
>>711359685
Serious question, if it happened in real life could I get sent to jail for pulling the lever?
>>711369693
Do you not know how to fucking count?
>>711369153
I seriously doubt you understand how single minded the legal system is.
If you pulled a lever you directly caused the death of a person. That is murder, maybe pleaded down to manslaughter.
YOU become responsible. YOU killed them.
Let's use your analogy of a knife welding maniac. If you let him attack he might kill people but instead you GRAB A PERSON, hold them infront of you and let them get stabbed so you can stop the attacker.
You really think that'll fly in court? Fuck no you put that person in harms way even if it could save others. Once again manslaughter.
>>711359685
the "one person" isn't tied, the five others are, so you can pull the lever, and it won't kill the guy.
>>711369862
Fuck me obviously not shit
Don't blame Me I actually have aspergers
>>711369877
I was placed in that situation. I was under severe psychological stress. People would have died and I wouldn't be guilty of anything.
>>711369801
You could be tried for manslaughter, and in fact, you almost certainly would be, because people need closure. The outcome of the trial would depend on the judge or a jury of your peers, depending on where you live. So in short: yes, you could, potentially, if people thought you deserved it. But in most jurisdictions, there is no law that says you would absolutely, unconditionally go to prison, precisely because there's an ethical argument involved.
>>711359685
Simple, I use the third track, crashing the train into itself, saving everybody
>>711362968
N O S U R V I V O R S
>>711369877
You're dumb sorry. There are differences and in court anything can happen. You also forget who decides if the person is guilty or not, the jury does. At least in the US. ANd I doubt they woudln't listen to the 5 saved people.
>>711370196
"i was stressed so i just grabbed everything i saw! levers, nipples, pussy!"
>>711362315
>>711362437
>>711362593
Or, just let the 5 die, steal their money, then get money from the 1 guy who you saved
>>711369629
Oh, did you record that on your video diary, did you?
Cause when I got here all I saw was some psycho untying people with a corpse on the opposite rail.
Sick fuck!
>>711370091
it's ok aspie kid.
>>711370421
No, I was placed in this situation with 6 other people and had to make the decision of either doing nothing, standing there and watching 5 people die or pressing a lever and sacrifing 1 person to save 5 lives.
I did not walk into this situation I was placed in it.
No one is responsible for their actions in a situation like that, nor would I be held accountable.
>>711365017
>Undertale
>Best game EVAAAR
Pick one
>Underage b& because only 12 year olds like this game.
>>711359685
Get on the radio, "I need my supervisor."
>>711370526
7 people were captured by someone and placed in this situation, I was one of them. You forgot that, faggot.
Every person including me, doesn't want to be there, but has to because of someone else.
We are again talking about soemthing you couldn't avoid.
The surviving person/persons can give you an alibi and epxlain what happened.
>>711370535
Would pull lever for.
>dat mole
Kill 5. Rape the last tied up one, kill them. No witnesses, problem solved.
From my moral grounds, I'd pull the lever, since five lives are more than one.
However, in real life I'd rather not touch the lever, otherwise I'd be charged with manslaughter.
>>711359685
This was discussed at Harvard's university, saw it 2 years ago. Your title completely ruins this subject though since it's completely irrelevant to the actual question...
>>711371124
Most legal systems agree with you in that *not* pulling the lever won't open you up to criminal charges, since there is either no legal obligation to rescue people in trouble, or you are only obligated to do so if it would cause no harm to others (which it clearly would in this case). The worst the law could compel you to in such cases is a requirement to inform the authorities, for all the good that would do.
>>711367613
Explain Rainman !!!!!
>>711370955
They don't know you, just the same as you don't know them.
For all they know you put them there.
Probably as an elaborate plan because you hated the one guy but needed an excuse to get rid of him.
If I've been drugged and tied to a train track. The last person I'm gonna trust is the first person I witness committing murder.
Life ain't fair, guaranteed.
If you ain't tied to that track, get the fuck out of there before you are!
>>711367693
>>711363402
>>711370967
I might just be really stoned, but I stared at her eyes for a while and now she looks kinda crossed in her eye on the right side.
>>711371124
You wouldn't. There is enough evidence that would convince the jury to plead you not guilty. Not to mention the media and saved people could demand your freedom, if you are actually sentenced. Even then, you wouldn't get more than 10 years anyways, which you will not spend those 10 years in prison anyways, since you'll very very likely be set free before that either on pressure of the public or because you're doing good in prison.
You're a moron, sorry.
>>711361334
by law you are legally oblidged to step in if there is something you can do to save someones life unless it's endagering your own life
>>711371706
Most people will realize what's right and whats wrong, including the jury that in the end pleads you guilty or not. Even if you're pleaded guilty, you'd at best get 10 years, which you'd come out way earlier either because the public is giving pressure onto the law facility or because you're released early because you are doing good in prison and are not a insane fuck.
Not to mention you were under psychological stress, which would make you not accountable for the situation you have been placed in.
>>711372208
I'm pretty sure that is not a federal law in the US. Maybe in some other nations, or some individual US states or regions...
>>711371764
YOu don't have that option retard. You have been setup by someone, as did those 6 other people. You do not have any other option than "doing nothing, standing there" and "pressing the lever". You're retarded, sorry.
>>711359685
The picture shows that no one else is around. So if you do nothing then no one will know.
>>711372208
False
Do nothing. It's a game where the only winning move is not to play.
>>711372604
>false
>doesn't know what country/state that poster is from
you must be retarded.
>>711372013
You're the moron.
Just you wait until you experience life in full.
Good luck kid. ;)
>>711368557
Hahaha
I clear in the high six figures every year.
Yeah, I'm an autist.
Yeah, way smarter than you.
Hahaha
Hey, my coffee doesn't have enough coffee in it, Senor Junior Barristaboi
Go remake this autists coffee and I'll tip you a dollar in this plastic charity cup.
Hahaha
Jeezus you fucking dipshit, is that your best?
How pathetic you must be irl.
http://law.stackexchange.com/questions/1639/what-is-the-legal-take-on-the-trolley-problem
Retards
>>711359685
Don't do anything and whatever happens isn't your fault. Just like not voting.
The primary defence is a legal principle of necessity: where your criminal actions are not protected or excluded by some other statute or principle, the fact that you were obliged to take this action in order to prevent some greater harm may safeguard you from penalties.
>>711369862
>not knowing how to fucking count
>not being autist
>not being a mathetical wizard
>being that moronormal
>>711372961
The primary defence is a legal principle of necessity: where your criminal actions are not protected or excluded by some other statute or principle, the fact that you were obliged to take this action in order to prevent some greater harm may safeguard you from penalties.
you're the retard, sorry kid.
>>711359685
Kill 1 one person
>>711372800
Nice dubs
Shame your post is bullshit
>true
>doesn't know what country/state that poster is from
+
Nobody is going to fucking arrest you for not touching the lever you bellend. Go back to worshiping Trump.
>>711373264
The details of good Samaritan laws/acts vary by jurisdiction, including who is protected from liability and under what circumstances.[23] Not all jurisdictions provide protection to laypersons, instead protecting only trained personnel, such as doctors or nurses and perhaps also emergency services personnel such as trained police, fire and EMS workers.
>>711373264
3
down vote
A perspective for the Czech Republic:
You are probably safe either way.
If you don't pull the lever, you might be guilty of Failure to provide help, but that requires you to be able to "provide help without any danger for self or another". Clearly, helping here endangers somebody, so you are not required to help.
If you pull the lever, you might be guilty of Murder, but the qualifications for dire need state that: If you commit a crime in order to prevent a danger, you are not guilty as long as you didn't cause a harm of the same magnitude or greater than the one you prevented. Regardless of philosophical discussions, I believe the law considers the death of multiple persons a worse outcome than the death of a single person (we can infer this from the fact that a more serious penalty is prescribed for a man who kills two people simultaneously than for a man who kills only a single person). Because pulling the lever kills one and prevents the death of five, you are causing lesser harm than would have occurred initially.
>>711372013
>You wouldn't.
Here, you affirm categorically I wouldn't...
>Even then, you wouldn't get more than 10 years anyways
Here, you open up the possibility I would, contradicting the above and brushing off 10 years as something small.
Anyway. Even under Civil Law (arguably less subjective than Anglo-Saxon Law), depending on the family of the one who died, I can still be charged for manslaughter, since they can "paint the scene" like I decided to kill a single innocent person instead of five scumbags. With AS Law (as Canucks, Brits, Aussies and nignogs), it's a bit worse.
Also,
>You're a moron, sorry.
Just bitter and aware Law stuff is shady as fuck. Also, if you didn't realize >>711372961 isn't me but another poster. (Kinda hilarious considering you called him a retard... while confusing both like a retard.)
>>711359685
This test is so retarded. the option that kills less people is obviously the morally correct choice.
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down vote
A perspective for the Czech Republic:
You are probably safe either way.
If you don't pull the lever, you might be guilty of Failure to provide help, but that requires you to be able to "provide help without any danger for self or another". Clearly, helping here endangers somebody, so you are not required to help.
If you pull the lever, you might be guilty of Murder, but the qualifications for dire need state that: If you commit a crime in order to prevent a danger, you are not guilty as long as you didn't cause a harm of the same magnitude or greater than the one you prevented. Regardless of philosophical discussions, I believe the law considers the death of multiple persons a worse outcome than the death of a single person (we can infer this from the fact that a more serious penalty is prescribed for a man who kills two people simultaneously than for a man who kills only a single person). Because pulling the lever kills one and prevents the death of five, you are causing lesser harm than would have occurred initially.
Cry
>>711372541
I would focus all resorces on ESCAPE!
If I am chained then the plan will be getting said chan yo the track, in the hope the train will cut me free.
"Fuck you, and fuck your wife."
~Thomas the tank~
>>711371581
agreed
>autism test
>which is the correct choice?
pretty sure the image posted by op tells us something about how intellectually challenged op is
it's always the intellectually challenged that call others "autist"
i guess it scares retarded normies to know there is a whole chunk of the population that have heightened activity in their brain
>>711373264
>Go back to worshiping Trump.
Not him, but why do you assume he's a nignog?
I wish I could prove all you faggots wrong and prove that, no matter what you'd do, you wouldn't face any legal consequences.
>>711359685
well if i weren't there in the first place the trolley would kill 5.
if i don't pull the lever it still is going to kill 5
if i pull - the trolley kills one person but i am fully responsible for killing them so it's like i killed them.
I'm choosing to not kill anybody and let the trolley go straight ahead killing 5 but without me being responsible for that
>>711373862
>
A perspective for the Czech Republic:
You are probably safe either way.
If you don't pull the lever, you might be guilty of Failure to provide help, but that requires you to be able to "provide help without any danger for self or another". Clearly, helping here endangers somebody, so you are not required to help.
If you pull the lever, you might be guilty of Murder, but the qualifications for dire need state that: If you commit a crime in order to prevent a danger, you are not guilty as long as you didn't cause a harm of the same magnitude or greater than the one you prevented. Regardless of philosophical discussions, I believe the law considers the death of multiple persons a worse outcome than the death of a single person (we can infer this from the fact that a more serious penalty is prescribed for a man who kills two people simultaneously than for a man who kills only a single person). Because pulling the lever kills one and prevents the death of five, you are causing lesser harm than would have occurred initially.
It doesn't matter whether you're professionally qualified to pull the lever. What might matter is whether you knew what pulling the lever would cause as you pulled it.
>>711373862
The test wasn't specified to be in any country. Let's say its in the czech rep.
>>711367613
>Those people were not autistic
I smell fear
>just another form of retardation
An absolute landslide of studies published in scientific journals and literally the whole field of psychology completely disagrees with you and laughs at your actual retardation shown in your very post
>being this dumb
>>711373180
>may safeguard you from penalties.
>may
Good luck kid.
>>711367613
Actually, autism has nothing to do with retardation or intelligence, it's something apart.
>>711359685
As someone from the Czech Republic, I agree your image calling this an "Autism Test" only shows you are a fucking retard.
We call people like you retardovaný.
Enjoy your ignorant bliss odročit.
Smartest and nicest guy I ever knew was full blown autist.
>>711374106
He's looking at law from a completely abstract point of view instead of a human activity.
>>711370421
"... and then I grabbed America!"
does the troley have reverse?
i'd like to make sure both tracks are used before next elections
>>711373522
You should explain that to Stevens family.
The Smith family are doing well though. They are recovering from their ordeal.
>>711361777
What a waste of trips
>>711367569
order pizza and watch anime duh
>>711374335
Most people from the autism spectrum actually do have lower IQ and/or various mental disabilities (like speech impediment, poor sight and such).
What you are thinking of is Asperger's syndrome - this is a form of autism which does not impair the mental capabilities of one yet it still makes people socially awkward and more often than not challenged by everyday life.
>>711373841
I wish you could too!
Sad fact is you can't.
>>711374335
You are wrong about it having nothing to do with intelligence.
It has been shown repeatedly throughout the scientific literature that "genius" and "autism" have a genetic link, which explains why all the geniuses in the world have always been autists.
An autists memory is said to be more than 10x better than the normal population. They also "see" the world very differently. An autists ferocious attention to detail also makes it so they learn throughout their life and grow increasingly more intelligent--something the rest of the population stops doing past early teens when they typically become distracted by time-wasters, mindless thought, self thoughts, drugs, constant need for gratification, sex, etc., and lose focus on anything intellectually challenging in seconds. The autist is relentless in focus. There is a growing body of science that believes autism is the evolution of mankind. There is no real need for emotion when you think about it and it is most often what brings down human beings.
Trick question its simple it says "you dont have the choice to operate" but the trolley is not heading to them its moving away from them.
>>711374869
There's a reason Asperger's is called also "High Functioning Autism" - both are the same.
You ask the guy on the side track what you should do, that way it's his strictly his moral decision (and blame if he chooses the rest to die).
>>711374921
I'd risk getting 10 years in prison for this bs, but I am sure I would get pleaded not guilty anyways.
>>711374869
>Most
Not true. The average IQ of an autist is actually higher. They have found that the tests that measure intelligence given to autists were actually flawed. Your school of thinking is over a decade old now. You might want to read up.
Also, you are wrong to suggest anything other than the fact that Aspergers is one form of Autism. There are many forms of autism on the spectrum. This is in fact what makes it very difficult to characterize or diagnose anyone with autism. It is not even known what causes it. It is known that the genetic link for intelligence and higher thought is one and the same as autism. The best way to describe autism is that portions of the brain deviate in net activity drastically from that of a "normal" brain--some portions are higher activity and some are lower--but in fact the net number of neural networks in the autistic brain is nearly threefold that of a normal brain. This means that the brain itself has the architecture for substantially greater thought, simultaneous processes, and memory. Whether or not there is a disconnect in the networks due to the expansion of these networks or a bridging, is what makes the variance on the spectrum so diverse.
I just realized it would make a great super-villain plot to actually set this up for an unsuspecting bystander to decide. Imagine the press once it gets taken to court, it'd be a cultural revolution of ethics
>>711375281
yup. Though high functioning autists are kinda rare in the whole spectrum. The statistics ain't full because most of aspergers aren't actually found since they manage to function in the society but still they are fewer than the whole spectrum as a subgroup.
So then - yes autism does tend to be connected to mental disability. And yes - there is a form of autism which does not lower your intelligence.
Believe me - i work with children - often with groups of disabled and most of the autistic kids do have lower intelligence.
>>711375691
Thanks.
>>711375778
Alright. Thanks for pointing me wrong. I'm going to read up on that.
I apologize.
I'm not a specialist on that, my whole knowledge is based on a two-day course on how to work with children from the spectrum that was organised by my employee.
Good to know they taught us shit.
>>711376116
This doesn't change much in what's important in working with these children (chemistry and physics shows). Inform them beforehand about what's gonna be the outcome of an experiment. Be very precise and literal about whatever you are explaining. Give rest to the good ol' explosions and any noisy and flashy stuff. Don't get discouraged if they seem to not listen to you. Don't ever try to touch them - most don't like that. And whatever else.
From time to time we get a kid there who's very interested in some aspect of some topic we discuss and at these times it's usually mindblowing how much a 7 year old may know about some idk nuclear fission or something.
But they still are usually a demanding audience
>>711375778
>>711377248
any links to good articles about these improved IQ-tests
>>711363319
TOPKEKROFLMAO
>>711363746
for fucks sake nigga
>>711364030
topkek
>>711370789
hello there, newfriend
>>711359685
Neither, but i would pull the lever because pulling levers makes my lever pull upwards.
Let the train do whatever it will do, murder the rest.I just want to see dead bodies to feed my inner sociopath.
>>711378911
>feed my inner sociopath.
Implying a sociopath gives a fuck.
