So Clinton leads by votes, but Trump is gonna be your President.
What kind of democracy is this?
Does the majority not count in your country?
Get your shit fixed!
>>711115067
Gerrymandering.
>>711115067
Clinton did not lead by voters. The vast Majority of media outlets were found to have disproportionately polled more democrats, likely in hopes to dissuade trump voters. However, when the people actually voted, the people chose the candidate that the governement wanted the least.
That is True Democracy, and whether he succeeds or fails is on our shoulders now.
are you retarded op?
We live in a republic, not a democracy.
I love how every election dipshits don't understand this.
>>711115067
Trump won the popular vote and eletoral. Everything is going according to plan.
>>711115293
>>711115301
Clinton won the popular vote you imbeciles. Trump only won because of the electoral college. Which is bs.
>>711115366
A republic is a democracy famalam
republicans living in california dont get a vote
democrats living in alabama dont get a vote
everyone, both voters and campaigners, understand the existence of the electoral college and make their decisions based on that knowledge
>>711115293
>>711115458
>>711115301
to any idiot thinking trump actually stood a chance if everyones vote truly counted.
>>711115575
But not a direct democracy.
>>711115293
True democracy is both sides building their whole campaign on lies and then the voters picking their candidate based on those lies.
Then half of the voters will be completely ignored for the next 4 years because of the lmao fptp-system where the winner takes it all.
Good luck with your civil war ayway.
>>711115366
How about you look up what Republic and Democracy means before posting, you pleb.
>>711115575
http://www.diffen.com/difference/Democracy_vs_Republic
>>711115557
No it isn't, If we do not use the electoral college then NYC and LA would decide every president, this would enrage every other state and break the system, which Is already fairly broken.
>>711115067
By this logic though Obama would have never been re-elected
>>711115067
Our elections are set up this way because majority rule is bad. There needs to be protections for the minority and our founding fathers understood that and built the system with rules that can benefit the minority when needed
Basically, get a shower, you're covered in salt
>>711115756
>Anon : it is X, not Y!
>Anon 2 : X is actually a Y famalam
>Anon : But X is not a Z, please notice how smart I am
>>711115067
One that managed to elect the better candidate.
>>711115719
to any idiot who can't handle the truth and tries to make themself feel better by making up lies.
>>711115201
/thread
>>711115837
You mean the cities with the most people in them?
That makes sense.
>>711115067
>Does the majority not count in your country?
Here in Canada, weedman got elected with only 39.5% popular vote. Single turn with 3 main parties and we get an SJW with full power. There is no perfect system.
>>711115067
They didn't finish counting all the votes, but the EC is there to protect us from situations like KilLiary winning the Populist vote (using dead people and illegals) but stomping over the fact that a lot of people still live in places other than major urban areas (yet are forced to pay for all the urban giveaways).
We are making America great again boys.
>>711115803
A democracy is when the guy that the people vote for the most wins, a republic is when the people elect representatives who then decide the winner.
There, easy, I didn't even have to break out the crayons
>>711115837
Instead you'll have the same amount of people living in identical conditions, only then in rural areas completely decide the vote.
America's political system is actually so bad it's laughable.
>>711115837
Well in your case, then true democracy and a TRUE vote will never take place. It's the same as the bush/gore election. Gore deserved the win, Bush won electorally. Idiotic american system. IF every single vote counted for themselves, the dual party system would not be even nearly as strong as it is today. Third parties would ACTUALLY have a chance, as well as independents.
This two party system will always be an issue for however long the electoral college exists. When America realizes that the electoral college is faulty and needs revamping, and they actually start making votes count. Is when a corrupt america can finally be avoided and people can live in peace knowing that they actually did something for their country.
If you live in a state, and vote democrat for a state that eventually turns red after polls close. Your vote for that state doesn't matter anymore and is basically no longer counted because the "red" won the whole state. What sense does that make. None
It's only like this because the shitty people in power need to die off. Majority of the boomers, and I'm one of them.
>>711115201
>gerrymandering
>I don't know what gerrymandering is: The post
>>711116110
Still not understanding the benefits of supporting minorities? A majority rule is just a dictatorship with a middleman
>>711116110
There are more people outside those cities than there are inside them.
>>711116132
the perfect system is ALLOWING EVERY SINGLE VOTE TO COUNT ONE FOR ONE. A POPULAR VOTE IS THE ONLY WAY ELECTIONS CAN BE TRULY EQUAL AND TRULY WORTH WHILE.
>>711115719
317 million americans.
~130m actually vote lol
>>711115557
Are you a fucking moron? It's to ensure that fucked up liberal states like California and NY can't grab an election single handedly.
>>711116318
yeah but it will also run the country into the ground
>>711115067
OP can't count
Rural American won this fucking retarded ass election. Niggers that are still living in the sixties and working as fucking MAILMEN and BUS DRIVERS have chosen the path that this country will take for the following four years.
Amazing.
>>711116318
Majority rule is just a dictatorship with a middle man faggot
>>711115067
ITT: millennials flaunting their ignorance
kill yourself op
>>711116209
well, isn't it just a democracy based on state and not individual? more people in that state votes red. Democracy wins and say that state is red.
>>711116110
Not in a country built on strong state/weak federal government structure. This country was founded on the states holding the power. President in this country isn't actually as powerful as people make it out to be. The real power in this country is in Congress. Which again is set up to protect equal representation of states.
>>711116440
Mail men and bus drivers are unionized. They likely voted Hillary. Small businesses voted trump
>>711115993
Those guys a hilarious!
They know shit and think they capable to have a real discussion.
They deserve their new president, he's truly one of them.
>>711116483
>>711116483
>>711116483
>>711116483
>>711116483
>>711116318
It must be blissfully nice living in that tiny little bubble where the world is a nice place and that isn't the worst idea imaginable.
Even the most cursory google search will show you all of the reasons that doesn't happen, but hey, I guess you're about to find out that being mad and stamping your feet doesn't actually make the world form around your image of it
>>711116361
Listen you literal garbage can. Yes, New york and california have big populations of people who vote blue. but when you have a WHOLE TWO REGIONS that vote RED, It equates, a popular vote would simply make things better. You're too afraid to admit it.
Every election, The south and midwest are completely red, the northeast blue and the west blue. But all together? POPULAR VOTES ARE STILL ALMOST EQUAL EVERY TIME. VOTES ALWAYS GO 48% 48% or 49% 51% IN THE POPULAR.
THIS SHOWS HOW EQUAL POPULAR VOTING WILL BE. IF TRUMP AND HILLARY AS CORRUPT AS THEY BOTH ARE CAN BOTH GET 48% OF THE VOTES IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD. THEN THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE IS A SHAM AND IT DOESNT MATTER ANYWAY.
>candidate X gets 48% of the vote in a state
>candidate Y gets 48.1% of the vote in said state
>candidate Y gets every single electoral vote in said state
I don't even know how this could be construed as a democratic process to be honest.
>>711116347
Because our vote doesn't matter
>>711115067
In parliamentary systems you can get the exact same outcome.
>>711116049
Those aren't lies, you just don't understand your own electoral system.
>>711115067
The majority won retard!
The minorities should never rule in any nation! Thats dictatorship!
Thats why they are called minorities!
One countries minoritys are another countrys majority!
>>711115067
Go start a riot so I can make fun of it
>>711116661
I do. Maybe I should've used the word excuses
You think you're some kind of genius? You think nobody put any thought into the system? it's what works best and it has been proven to.
>>711115817
>http://www.diffen.com/difference/Democracy_vs_Republic
That's completely wrong.
Republic = no monarchy.
Democracy = the population in general has a meaningful (legal) say in the government by some means.
>>711115067
do you not know how it works. Majority vote don't mater. issue becomes about land. more land you got less vote you get.
>>711116618
Can =\= will
Something working out now because of the availability of a checks and balance system does not mean that it will continue to trend in such a way without that system.
You are incredibly dense.
>>711115557
clinton only won the popular vote because of widespread electoral and voter fraud.
>>711116577
haha ikr
enjoy your new american dream faggots
>>711115067
Wasnt it the same with niggerbama vs mccain? Why you didnt cry then libcuck?
>>711116661
>In this much denial
say it with me homo, PRESIDENT TRUMP
>>711116832
>ITS RIGGED!
>>711115067
I see you're not old enough to remember that Bush lost the popular vote twice. Your point is now invalid.
>>711115067
The U.S.A. was nnever a democracy; it's a constitutional republic. Good thing, too, because clearly the majority of Americans are too stupid to be trusted with anything of import.
>>711116132
In France we vote our President directly.
First round with all candidates.
Second round the two remaining from first.
>>711116440
Mailman and bus drivers in the same category, wow look at the hillary supporter go.
>people who don't support importing terrorists and special snowflake syndrome are dumb huehhe
It's just God's will.
>>711116914
The USA has always been a democracy.
>>711116189
Please look at the French Republic presidential electoral system.
>>711116944
Right now it's people who've never left their village in the middle of bumfuck nowhere voting with next to zero knowledge about any of the issues deciding the election.
The difference in popular votes is literally less than a fraction of a percent.
That's called a tie, dumbdumbs.
RIOT NAO YOU MUTTERFUCKERS!
LETS GRABE PUSS ITS LEGAL BY ELECTION
>>711115067
>second Republican in a row to win the Presidency without winning the popular vote
It is a problem, and even worse it only seems to benefit Republicans.
They're working on getting rid of the electoral college in enough states to end the system.
>>711116928
>>711117059
And yet, you are still a country of socialist cucks.
>>711115067
>What kind of democracy is this
one of the 18th century.
>>711116928
You also surrender to germany after two weaks and your police is scared of niggers and arabs and i also heard you like to eat frogs and your girls dont clean their vaginas because you baguette-riding motherfuckers like nasty cunts, so please don't ever post again.
>>711116347
Minors and felons don't count, dummy
For such an incredibly spread out country, American turnout is actually pretty high.
>>711115293
How idiotic. We've been through this. It makes people VOTE more for the ones that don't, trust me on this 'murrica.
>>711115557
Clinton was behind in three popular vote when she conceded nigger
>>711116049
>Trump wins
>his supporters still think the media is lying to them
This isn't even unexpected you goddamned retard
JUST STOP
>>711115293
No you retard it's on trumps shoulders. Good luck.
>>711116750
you're wrong and millions of Americans in dozens of states are fixing it, with or without you.
Trump says he wants all Americans to count now that he's President.
His first act should be proposing the dissolution of the electoral college and let every vote count.
>yfw he he's coming up with a way to make himself emperor for life
>>711115557
>wanting the entire nation to be ruled by LA
>>711117451
Right. Say hi to them for me would you?
>>711116889
>whines about rigged election entire campaign
>wins without getting most of the votes
>ignore everything else and pretends people actually chose Trump
I never imagined you had any principles, but this is pretty shameless.
>>711117453
electoral college usually swings for dems...so okay.
>>711116889
Yeah and what are you gonna do when he shut down your little cuck site meant for loli pussies?
>an hero you piece of shit
>>711117530
>New York this week became the 10th state (plus D.C.) to join the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. The compact represents a clever workaround to the Electoral College. By signing on, states agree they will award their electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote (for example, New York would have given its electoral votes to George W. Bush in 2004).
ITT retards who want america to be ruled by Houston, LA and New York
>>711117629
Bush and Trump both won Presidency without electoral college. Clinton and Obama won by both popular and electoral votes.
You're so wrong.
>>711117801
>Bush and Trump won without popular vote
fixed
>>711115067
Morons like you have zero understanding of justice. The electoral college exists to keep large population centers such as New York or L.A from single handedly running the country. Also Trump won the popular vote too retard. Stop using MSNBC as your news resource.
>>711115067
As it stands now, Hillaly leads in the so-called "popular vote," which is a thing that doesn't exist on a national level in our country.
Had the election been run on this "popular vote," both candidates would have campaigned differently, and the outcome might well have been the same: Trump wins.
>>711117629
Wrong pleb.
The electoral college usually "swings" (cuck word) with the candidate who holds the popular vote as well.
>>711117709
If more people live there, then that's how democracy works, retard
>>711117859
>The electoral college exists to keep large population centers such as New York or L.A from single handedly running the country.
The EC exists because in the 1700s communication was too slow to allow people to make 'informed' votes for a president. So people selected a voter to be their representative and make an informed vote on their behalf.
They have the president they deserve. Prepare for the lulz.
>>711117311
She won the popular vote, and everyone knew she would.
Everyone also knows it doesn't matter, but many people think it should.
>>711115943
So why does gerdemocracy work so much better?
>>711118111
Everyone 'knew' she would win the electoral college too, but that didn't exactly work out.
>chek'd
>>711117709
This. Take a look at the election map by county. It's a sea of red, except around major cities. Sure, pure population has something to do with this, but it pisses me off that the point of view of people living in cities tends to prevail over the rest of us. I live in Oregon, and the liberals in three cities dominate the elections. They end up telling the rest of us how we should live our lives, even though they don't have the slightest clue about life outside their neighborhood. They think that their produce gets 3d printed in the back of Whole Foods, or that the soy milk in their Latte drops out of the sky in a carton.
>>711115201
Seriously the most ridiculous thing
>>711115366
We live in an oligarchy, not a republic. I love how every right wing moonbat doesn't understand this
>>711115067
no it does not the electoral collage witch is rigged towards one side does
>>711118254
yeah, it was a surprise, especially since she won the popular vote as expected.
You can understand when MOST people vote Hillary yet Trump still wins that national polls may not be worth much.
Its a republic not a democracy
>>711118366
really the only way to make your vote count is illegal in all countrys
>>711118415
low tier bait
>>711115067
Trump whooped her ass by votes you daft cunt.
>>711115756
>direct democracy
not what you said you slimy, goal-post moving faglord
>>711117238
Keep being a redneck you fucking moron.
>Russian here
>CP Grey knows whats up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wC42HgLA4k
You 'murricans..
>>711117709
Yeah, better be ruled by uneducated rednecks farmers.
>>711118410
You can understand when dead people and illegals are voting, that solely operating on a popular vote may not be the best idea.
>>711118439
but that's true, you retard
>>711118039
>yfw Trump was a democrat in disguise all along
>yfw he opens borders, enforces new gender pronouncs on people, raises the taxes on small businesses and starts wearing dresses in solaridarity with the lgbtqasjdieut+ group
>>711115201
relevant how?
>>711115201
Clearly you have no idea what gerrymandering is..fucking idiot
As of 11:55 a.m. ET, Clinton had amassed 59,458,295 votes nationally, to Trump's 59,265,380 — a margin of 192,915 that puts Clinton on track to become the fifth U.S. presidential candidate to win the popular vote but lose the election.
Neither candidate got more than 50 percent of the vote: As of 11:55 a.m. ET, Clinton stood at 47.7 percent and Trump at 47.5 percent.
>>711118586
He also destroyed the First Past The Post bullshit they got there.
>>711115557
b-but yesterday it was good. why is it bad now????? oh yeah that's right, you lost.
>>711118467
Google it retard
Trump lost popular vote by nearly 200,000 votes
>>711115608
dumb fuck millennial detected.
>>711118748
Donald Trump (GOP) 1,407,401 47.9%
Hillary Clinton (Dem) 1,380,512 46.9%
Wisconsin results
>>711118799
A small margin, they practically drew. It needs to be a co-presidency.
>>711118344
We live in an oligarchy because power was seized from the state governments through judicial fiat contrary to the 9th and 10th amendments.
we need to get rid of electoral collage
>>711118654
You don't know how voting works, clearly
The only voter fraud was committed by Republicans this year, and that's not counting nationwide illegal efforts to disenfranchise voters.
>>711115900
no see it was good then. we lost now its bad again.
>>711118689
>but that's true, you retard
A republic can be a democracy.
>>711118878
that's absolutely retarded
>>711116209
more tears please
>>711118916
There was most definitely voter fraud this year along with registration fraud on the DNC side. Along with Terry McCauliffe giving electoral rights back to felons contrary to the VA Supreme Court's decision.
>>711116318
until the next election when its no good anymore.
>>711115067
>>711116440
the sixtys were a lot better than it is now kid.
>>711116318
You know a gang of 8 men raping 1 woman is techincally a popular vote as 8 voted yes and 1 no. It's "fair".
>>711118916
Didn't mention a party did I, but hell I didn't know you were going to be bringing official charts and whatnot. It must be true if it's in a pie chart on the Internet. Forgive my ignorance and now I will go an hero.
>>711119083
Don't forget that the democrats were sending people door-to-door to collect ballots from people who hadn't voted yet.
>>711115900
>>711118922
>retarded faggots keep pulling baseless lies out of their asses
Obama won more than 50% of the popular vote both times, he was VASTLY more popular than Trump or Clinton.
>>711117241
33% isn't very high lol. That means that of the people who could vote, maybe 40% of them did lol. That's terrible.
We should have mandatory voting laws. Make it a national holiday
>>711119154
at least everyone was doing acid back than.
Things are about to get pretty darn scary. Shariah Law brought to us by white people
>>711119178
>repeating Republican justifications for disenfranchising voters verbatim
You're not fooling anyone asshole
If you have to keep people from voting to win, you're doing it wrong.
>>711116618
but it wasn't a sham last week.
was it kid when all of those maps were being shoved in everyone's faces.
face it. you lost.
now cry me more tears and get that order of fries.
>>711115067
>So Clinton leads by votes, but Trump is gonna be your President.
>What kind of democracy is this?
>Does the majority not count in your country?
>Get your shit fixed!
Exactly. Though the Electoral College doesn't have to vote to elect Trump. They are not bound by anything to vote the same way. If they voted by popular vote, Hillary would win, hands down.
>>711119311
just to reiterate
our votes person to person literally dont count
>>711116564
>gay marriage and access to abortion are states rights issues instead of a human rights issues
Kill yourself.
>>711116633
but you weren't saying this last week sweetie.
what happened? that's right.....
YOU FUCKING LOST.
>>711115067
Go back to NeoGAF you mentally disabled monster.
And why do you post a republican?
>>711119311
>If you have to keep people from voting to win, you're doing it wrong.
And if my great grandfather voted republican his entire life, then voted Democrat after he died, your entire "only the popular vote should matter so the people are heard" argument sucks a big fat cock
>>711119443
well that was pointless and irrelevant.
good work chap!
>>711115067
That's how the electoral college works. It's designed exactly for these sort of situations, so that a bunch of illegal beaners in California can't control the fate of the US.
>>711119237
Quit being so fucking stupid and just GOOGLE one of your retarded claims.
Turnout was 55% this year
>>711116347
felons, illegals, minors don't count kiddo
huh... system was rigged after all
>>711119514
That doesn't happen you retard
The amount of suppressed votes exceeds any possibility of voter fraud by MULTIPLE ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE.
Election fraud is a serious felony, and there are people aggressively looking for it from both sides.
>>711117161
butthurt liberal detected.
>>711119424
they COULD though
see>>711117686
>>711117384
still butthurt after sixteen years.
well have some more.
>>711115366
MFW we live in a simulation. Here's hoping we get to the apocalyptic part before I'm too old to enjoy it.
>>711116928
i bet thats working out for you
>>711119619
kek
>trump was right
>erections were ligged
>mfw
>>711117065
and its people in cities voting on social issues that arnt determined by the president, do yall even pay your damn taxes that shit sucks
>>711117453
aww somebody needs a diaper change.
somebody needs to be reminded that the first congress after obarry got elected tried to make him president for life.
>>711117161
didnt obama do this?
these are some sweet tears
>>711119644
>That doesn't happen you retard
Keep telling yourself that champ.
>Election fraud is a serious felony, and there are people aggressively looking for it from both sides.
The sad thing is I think you actually believe this. With the amount of bribery and extortion in the political world, you believe every person tasked with 'looking for fraud' I'd actually doing just that...unless they're Republican that is.
>>711119747
ten out of fifty states are doing this.
and i dont live in those states.
maybe one day itll be fixed. but this electoral votes garbage is exactly why i didnt waste time trying to vote.
>>711119668
>conservative would rather cheat than lose
not surprising really
>>711117558
more tears. he won in the system you were endorsing last week kid. wa happened?
that's right
YOU FUCKING LOST
Nude pic of Michelle Obama surfaces
Popular vote would result in cities ALWAYS deciding elections. That is not democracy, that is oligarchy.
>>711115293
>>711115458
>>711115557
Clinton won the popular vote by like .2%. That's about 100,000 votes out of over 59 million.
If the popular vote determined the winner nobody would give a damn about most states. California, Florida, New York would be all anyone cared about.
>>711119952
They don't need all 50, just enough to represent 270 electoral votes.
It's a longshot at the moment, but there's definitely a problem that people are addressing.
>>711115067
>extrapolating the popular vote in an electoral race to popular vote in a popular vote race
>>711117846
sure kid
>>711119390
>fraction of a percent difference in popular vote, enough to be an error
president trump is president because over half the country wanted him too, Hilary would of won if more people wanted her too
keep the tears flowing
>>711120043
slowly
>>711119974
>you were endorsing
do you think you know who you're talking to?
I've never been a fan of the electoral college, especially since Bush won the Presidency without the popular vote.
>>711117498
A population of 3.8 million people deciding the outcome of the election... And that's if all of them vote and vote the same. Kinda delusional if you ask me. It's irrelevant anyway. NY and California always lean blue so your point is moot.
>>711118344
sure is butthurt in here.
>>711115067
because we live in a republic
not a democracy
only dumb uneducated liberals think its a democracy.
our laws, yes, are voted for democratically. but our president is elected through the electoral college by a limitations of the constitution
obama is talking about trumps win live right now
>>711118799
so? doesn't matter. does it.
>>711120052
it's not exactly debatable
>>711120176
Only victims of the US education system think the USA isn't a democracy.
>>711120070
Uh, no? Hillary won the popular vote. Just doesn't matter because if Trump wins 49 states by 1 vote and she wins the last by a million, she still just has one state worth of electoral votes, even though she's almost a million votes up.
>>711118878
fuck off child
>>711120176
it's both retard
>>711118912
no we don't. it was good enough for you last week. what happened????
YOU FUCKING LOST.
>>711120309
no, but it should
and maybe it will in the future
>>711119644
>lack of voter ID laws means anyone can fake a vote
>electronic machines that have been confirmed to "malfunction" and give extra votes to clinton
>millions of noncitizens, dead people, and duplicates registered to vote
>democratic officials outright saying on hidden cameras that they commit electoral fraud
BUT ELECTORAL FRAUD NEVER HAPPENS :^)
you fucking retard.
>>711118916
that's a powerful accusation son. when are you scheduled to testify before congress.
whats that? you're a loser? thought so.
>>711120466
>citation very much needed
>>711120438
I wanted to get rid of it back in 2000, when Bush lost the popular vote. Nothing's changed since then.
>democracy
>ignoring the 49%
Yep. Good ol USA.
>>711119197
sore losers keep posting on the internet
>>711119239
sure kid. figured you were retarded.
thanks for not disappointing me.
>>711119424
more tears please
>>711119892
no, Obama won most of the popular votes both times by very large margins for a Presidential race
Do you faggots not know how to use google?
>>711120561
>on /b/
>wanting citations
Nigger please
>>711119523
sure kid.
if by shit you mean mainstream media than yeah fix that shit
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3Q417_TH6E
>>711119957
baseless accusations. why am I not surprised.
>>711120043
the tears
>>711120119
wow you dumb
>>711120313
who said anything about a debate kid
Actually Trump also won the popular vote you grade-A retard
>>711117384
>>711120339
You seem to be very confused how statistics and calculations actually work.
Additionally, you seem to be confused by how volatile this election is. Allow me to correct your childish notions.
That difference of a million votes is literally less than a fraction of a percent of all votes calculated. Even with a 99% confidence interval, no one would be comfortable making objective claims on this outcome.
Additionally, Trump has stated in advance that he would contest the votes if there was any room for results to be contested, which this is VERY clearly the case for the popular vote right now.
Error margins exist for a good reason. Frankly, you can't even claim with credible veracity at this point that Hillary won the popular vote.
>>711116618
Just stop posting and kill yourself.
>>711120320
retard right here
>>711120786
>you're just mad cause you're right and we won anyways
>sperg moment ensues (LOSER! MORE TEARS! ETC!!)
>>711120793
>wanting factual evidence to back up claims made by an anonymous user on an anonymous site makes me retarded
actually that might be true.
all of your points have been immediately disregarded. no clue what i was thinking
>>711120457
sorry that won't happen.
try north korea
>>711120814
right as rain pappi
>>711120574
nigger please
>>711120614
you're the problem kid
YFW most of the democracies in the world DON'T work by a "the guy with most votes is chosen" -system.
>>711121093
where do you get your information?
fox news?
where is your proof?
>citation needed
>>711116318
this is only true for tiny countries, the US is so huge that if done your way none of the smaller population states would matter. With the electoral votes even rural areas get to have their say.
>>711121146
sore loser eh'
try keeping your mouth shit then
>Leads by votes
Wrong.
>Fix your shit
Fix your teeth first, britbong.
>>711118912
i haven't liked it since bush stole the election with it so fuck off knob slober
>>711120647
What do you do ignore the 51%?
>>711121262
Hate to break it to you, chump, but all these claims of "reliability" and unbiased news have gone out the fucking window as of yesterday.
NO source that polled for Trump's loss is credible anymore.
>>711121313
why dont you shit the fuck up and take your own advice
>>711120438
i haven't liked it since bush stole the election with it so fuck off knob slobber
dam fucked up the post
>>711121466
oh. cause they're rigged right?
shouldve known
>>711115067
It's a democratic republic nigger
>>711121466
i believe they where doing it in hopes democrats would not go out and vote. The whole news system has been against Hillary for over a year
>>711115067
does it matter what figure head you get? It's the people and illuminati and mostly NWO ruling behind the scenes, also owls, minerva?
>>711121515
The polls WERE rigged.
They've ALWAYS been rigged.
Your candidate literally FUCKING LOST because of how far up your head your denial is.
For fuck's sake, what will it fucking take for you to finally accept that your world view is
OBJECTIVELY
WRONG
>>711121166
New York this week became the 10th state (plus D.C.) to join the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. The compact represents a clever workaround to the Electoral College. By signing on, states agree they will award their electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote (for example, New York would have given its electoral votes to George W. Bush in 2004). However, the measure will only be triggered once states accounting for a majority of electoral votes have joined.
>>711115067
Most Americans are idiots, so whoever get the majority is actually the worst candidate.
>>711115719
>to any idiot thinking trump actually stood a chance if everyones vote truly counted.
The difference is about 180k out of 119 million, hardly a landslide victory for Clinton.
lol... you fucking idiots will argue about anything.
not everyone lives in fucking murica you god damn retards.. talk about the fake "royal" family in England
Dont really understand why she won.. I thought everybody hates trump....
>>711121617
>The whole news system has been against Hillary for over a year
Is that how she won the primaries?
Is that why Donna Brazille gave her campaign debate questions in advance?
Is that why we have emails confirming collusion with multiple media outlets?
Feel free to answer any of these questions. I'm just trying to gauge how ignorant you really are. I can imagine how confusing these times are for you since you haven't actually been paying attention to anything the "conspiracy theorists" have been telling you for the past year.
>>711116132
like this?
>>711121839
Welcome to the silent majority.
>>711121866
Like that
Hillary only got as far as she did by pandering to the hoodrat scum that pops a new voter out every 9 months.
They so densely populate certain areas, it wouldn't matter if Trump won the entire rest of the state, theoretically speaking.
>>711121858
She won the primary's buy stabbing Bern in the back
as for the other two i believe they have been proven fals
>>711115575
No, it's not you retarded shit eater
>>711115067
It's called a republic, idiot.
>>711121686
>polls ARE rigged
>thats why trump won
oh and i was in denial. denial that americans collectively were stupid enough to vote someone like trump into office.
which ultimately the majority didnt.
you stupid fucks want some great change.. well your about to get it
By 150k people, that's like one County in the entire country lmfao, fucking retard dipshit
>>711116132
Now tell me how state borders are changed every election
>>711122073
>as for the other two i believe they have been proven fals
They haven't.
If anything, there's been more evidence coming out that Brazille has dropped even more debate questions on her team than previously thought.
>711122222
call this man a gerrymanderin' baboon
>>711115557
do you need a safe space?
>>711115067
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdzWtL5YjRU
>>711122092
lololol, this idiot wants WW3
No fly zone>shoot russians down>retaliation>????>Profit
Honestly if you truly believe Hitlery was better you need a reality check. The rap sheet for her mistakes and failures in 20 years of in office is terrible.
Do the world a favor and uninstall your life....oh wait you dont have one
>>711122092
If you cheat to get a full house yet I manage to get a straight flush, that doesn't change the fact that the game is still rigged.
Additionally, all polls short of the election itself were skewed heavily in Hillary's favor.
>>711115366
The two are not mutually exclusive. Tell your Civics teacher that you need a remedial course.
>wow anericans are so dumb for electing trump
>not a single well written reason as to why it was stupid is anywhere in this thread
>>711115067
the same democracy like in the Bernie Sanders case.
Clinton was bitch and screw the vote for Sanders.
And now when she was beaten by a more bigger badass then her, you are complaining.
OP check your privileges. :D
faggot.
>>711115201
Gerrymandering requires the person be in power
If anyone was gerrymandering it was hilldawg
>Hillary wasn't even close to Trump in the popular vote till California voted
>People actually want one state to have that much power in an election
>>711115301
Sounds like it was OP's first election. She'll slowly get used to the idea of how superdelegates and the Electoral College help to preserve the ideals of democracy at the expense of democracy.
>>711116132
UKIP got about 12% of vote and only less than 0.1% of seats
Torys got about 30% of vote and got over 50% seats
>>711116686
Well technically the majority didn't won.
>>711118916
>only voter fraud was committed by Republicans this year
The dead have voted Democrat in every election since Tammany Hall.
>>711116621
Really you don't because instead of overall majority your not in favor of state majority. Can you contradict yourself harder buddy
>>711115067
>What kind of democracy is this?
A Republic of States.
>>711120339
>Uh, no?
Uh.
>>711115067
>majority
No one won the majority. Words mean things, dipshit. These words mean you're a dipshit.
Electorial voting is stupid and frankly unfair.
You give a small amount of people, greater power, than a large amount of people.
With the right states, one vote may equal 15 votes from a different state. That makes no sense. That's unequal and not very democratic.
All votes should be collected in one spot, and counted. As easy as that.
Majority wins. If NY and LA contains most people, why should a tiny minority from an obscure state, get the same power?
10000 people suddenly have the power of 5.5 million, because of their location. Makes no sense to anyone with a brain.
In a system where you theoretically can win presidency with 25% of all votes, is a very broken system.
>>711116132
Switzerland, consent democracy
rank ballot FTW
>>711124210
Possible to win with less than 22% of the votes actually.
>>711115067
>democracy is when 51% control the other 49%
>not knowing what delegates are and why they are in place
>pro tip: I don't vote
>>711116209
Not sure, they were recounting votes for close states which would have switched electoral votes.
>>711115067
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjuD6lZUU2A
>>711122579
First job in politics : president of the usa.
I'm not even american but my sides are in orbit since last night.
>>711116686
The majority vote for the greater good means minorities should have zero power.
In this case the electoral college did what it was designed to do. Prevent American's from making stupid choices for President.
Remember; Hillary has been in the white house in one way or another since Watergate, and was *involved* in watergate. The crew in the Senate and Congress have *way* more experience with Her Shenanigans that the average US Citizen. I am trusting their decision on this.
BTW, Accusations are not evidence.
Clinton led by a 0.16% popular vote of the two parties. The position shouldn't have gone to a single person
So Californians should get more say than someone living in Wyoming or any other small state?
Go fuck yourself OP. The electoral college is what gives all Americans a voice.
>>711124768
i don't see the problem. if people accept that system of voting it's their own fucking fault
back in the good old days and now you always have the option to use guillotines
I'm from Europe and I wish you good luck with your new clown president.
>>711124210
so then one state should have a disproportionate amount of power because of it's size? that would mean the entire election would solely be decided by how Alaska, Texas and California votes and become the only places worth campaigning.
are you too stupid to realize this is why we have the popular and electoral vote? it's also the reason why the house and senate are built the way the are. the founding fathers weren't as stupid as you are.
>>711125200
No, it's what undermines democracy, you fucking ignorant tool.
If there's more people living in California, then YES, the popular vote would be higher, in theory.
However, the most densely registered and active counties are the midwest, which have HUGE point spreads in the EC thanks to "muh low pop feelings".
Fuck you and anyone else that thinks it's a democratic process when voting means dick all.
>>711125207
Thing is, it's hard enough to make a living to even have a chance of making change happen. Then you have all the idiots and media causing others to think you're crazy.
>>711125514
it's the pure definition of democracy.
enforcing one or the other system would be not democratic.
yes a democracy is allowed to be changed into a pile of shit if the people want it.
>>711125419
Stop the fucking arithmetics trying to explain why trump won. America is just full of idiots, that's it.
>>711115067
>democracy
this is a democratic republic you retard
>>711116318
That's USA, meaning United States of America.
These STATES vote for the president, and they decided - each in their constitution - how that voting is done. Trump won the most states, so he wins. It's as simple as that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZc8tBtIDhI
>>711125751
i fully agree. nothing stopped anyone in america or will stop anyone in america to get a majority and change the voting system... if they really would want to do that
>>711125638
The people no longer want it. We haven't wanted the Electoral College for decades, yet I'm not seeing any way for us to vote it out of existence.
>>711115719
you're funny for thinking google is unbiased.
>>711115067
WOW, CTR is active?
>>711115067
electoral college biatch.
>>711125996
bullshit.
you want it. i don't want it to change
>>711115067
>>711116361
Look at voter turnout. Cali was crap. If anything a lack of an electoral college would have hurt them immensely.
>>711116618
you mad?
>>711116633
Trump won by .5-1%.
