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Okay Amerifags, who are you voting for? and why?
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i'm planning to vote hillary.

but the closer the days have come to today, i've gotten the urge to vote trump because it would cause a historic clusterfuck if on the off-chance he did win.
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>>710994284
Take that urge nigger. You'll get to witness the simultaneous meltdown of tumblr, media and every overweight gender making up SJW in the US and other countries
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>>710994119
vote hillary so the second amendment gets removed

no more guns for niggers
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Trumpster. Cos He's a Loose Cannon. Not a Part of the System.
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Trump.

Regardless of my feelings on him we cannot have another 4 years of the same fucking shit we have had the past 8 years with Obama.
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>>710994378

it's not the butt-hurt of media that im talking about. i mean all that would be amusing as fuck, but i think there would an actual national crisis because there are many people in power and with money who don't want trump elected. and america could use some shaking up, honestly.
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>>710994119
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voted hillary like 2 weeks ago
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>>710994119
I really hate them both, but I'm voting Hillary purely for her stance on climate change. Trump also doesn't give a fuck about science and wants to defund NASA and fuck science education some more, so there's that too.
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Gary Johnson... cause fuck everything else.
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I did vote for Hillary but im rather impartial to who actually wins
If Hillary wins i can hope she passes some bills i care about to Congress
But I also kinda want Trump to because itd be funny and i also want to know what he'll do
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Britfag here. I hope you guys have the sand to vote Trump.

Having a fucking woman president will be an absolute disaster for all mankind.
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reminder that this is the average trump voter, literally too stupid to figure out how to vote
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>>710994541
trumps wants to fund nasa more. idk about climate change, it wont effect me.
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>>710994541
Haha, these silly people show up in all threads, don't they?
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>>710994625
Just look at argentina. Its 10 times shittier now
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>>710994501
There would also be riots from rowdy African Americans if that's what you mean
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I got high as shit and voted for Jill Stein. At least I can feel like I did the very least I could do to fuck over Hillary
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>>710994541
There is literally nothing Hilary or Trump can do in their time in office that will affect climate change.
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>>710994625
Fuck you, Thatcher was amazing. Hate Hilary because she's an evil cunt, not because she's a woman.
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>>710994119
neither, fuck both of those whores
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>>710994502
what is aleppo for 500$??
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First woman president? YES!
First woman president to be jailed in her first term? YES!

Wait for the next woman to run, because the first woman president shouldn't be jailed. It would ruin the entire 'moment' of first female president. Not that I particularly care about this issue, but it seems a lot of people do.
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>>710994119
Hill dog
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>>710994692
>idk about climate change, it wont effect me

What, are you old as fuck and gonna be dead within the next 20 years?
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>>710995078
exactly, just what fucking american state is aleppo in? "not-america"? then fuck it
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>>710994470
>implying obama wasn't a great president
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>>710995196
kek

You must be young as fuck and educated by leftist climate science.
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1. Trump advocating to send US troops into libya and killing gaddafi at 2011:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTqoz0RYvVM

2. Donald Trump advocating for open borders and globalism in 2013:
"We will have to leave borders behind and go for global unity when it comes to financial stability."
"We are now closer to having an economic community in the best sense of the term — we work with each other for the benefit of all," - That's literally trump supporting the same positions of the TPP

Sources:
http://www.businessinsider.my/donald-trump-2013-borders-global-economy-2016-10/#cpCBOCgv0LHBcXrH.99
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/10/donald-trump-open-borders-trade
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trailguide-updates-donald-trump-in-2013-leave-borders-1467213683-htmlstory.html
http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-in-2013-u-s-needs-to-leave-borders-behind-embrace-global-economy/

3. Trump's true position on citizens united - literally embracing people from citizens united into his campaign.
Reminder that citizens united empowers the influence of corporations on the elections.

Sources:
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-david-bossie-citizens-united-2016-9
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/trump-bossie-citizens-united-227662
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/donald-trump-campaign-hires-citizens-united-president-article-1.2775561

4. Trump praising kim jong un: "He is the boss, it's incredible. he wiped out the uncle, he wiped out this one, that one, this guy doesn't play games!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFp4EHbXrNA
Just in case it wasn't clear for you already that trump has dictatorship tendencies.

5. A collection of some other things trump has done, including lying over and over again during this campaign and a vast criminal past: http://quantum-displacement.tumblr.com/post/146015554444/anti-trump-masterpost


Bonus: Trump lying 250 times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmne8r2sIFA

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>>710995288
Tard detected, go back to your handlers little buddy
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>>710995454
tldr
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>>710995533
Dubs of truth.
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>>710994119

I early voted for Hillary last week, and it wasn't a "lesser of the two evils thing" either. I believe Hillary will make a terrific President. I think she'll do more to try and keep us out of foreign wars. I think she'll do more to protect the little guy instead of cutting taxes even further on the rich and corporations.

She's smart, she's experienced, and it's not a good idea to get in her way. Hell, she's like the Godfather of politics right now.

And I can't wait to hear all the screams of rage from the Trumpsters tonight.
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>>710995454
No one cares faggot.
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Voted Hillary bc I'm with her and fuck trump
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>>710995533
Salty that the most qualified presidential candidate ever, Hillary Clinton, is about to be elected POTUS.
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Obama was great. Obamacare is great. My uncle with pre-existent condition got finally covered.
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>>710994758

no man, i'm talking people in power.

jewish overlords, reptile shadowmasters, whatever flavor of boogeyman you want.
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>>710995699
Why would I be salty over a 13 year old's political opinions? At first I thought you were a shill but it's obvious you're an autist preteen who heard mommy telling daddy what a wonderful woman Clinton is
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>>710995372
>climate change ain't real cuz my daddy and the republicans tell me so

Way to go, autismo.
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>>710995372
>leftist climate science
Lol, you can't just put word "leftist" in front of something and dismiss it.
You're also ignoring that most science out there denying climate change is funded one way or another by carbon emitters.
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Trump will bring jobs back to America!!
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>>710995794
That too anon Jesus
Hillary has been losing her shit because she realizes the trump train's coming and she's the definition of establishment and power. Seriously, look at her latest speeches where she goes on tearful angry rants
You already know there's gonna be assassination attempts and similar from America's favorite fake progressive
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>>710995906
>projection


I'll admit that I sometimes enjoy doing some projection myself.
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>>710995231
The problem is that he didn't know if it was in the US or not.
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>>710995889
Quit projecting your self image onto other people.
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>>710995889
Your insults are pathetically childish. Grow up.
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>>710994284
It truly depressess me that a vote for the near future of my country matters so little to most that they're willing to throw it at people they don't believe in just to get a quick laugh.
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>>710994382
>being retarded enough to believe this is how criminals behave.
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>>710996050
>implying I believe climate change is real just because democrats believe it

I believe it's real because of the overwhelming consensus of actual climate scientists, ass burger.

Unlike your dumb ass who believes it isn't real because of Glen Beck and Hannity.
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I'm voting Hilary. I've been really undecided the whole election but I figured, if so many celebrities like Lena Dunham and Beyonce think I should vote Hilary, then I should trust them.
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>>710996355
Hang yourself with razorwire
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neither because shits rigged and im politically disenfranchised

enjoy your billion dollar propaganda campaign
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>>710996260
the climate is changing because planet X is here
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>>710996217
>being retarded enough to think hillary is going to remove the second ammendment
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>>710996260
>I believe it's real because of the overwhelming consensus of actual climate scientists, ass burger.


Yes, scientists backed by leftists. Stop deluding yourself kiddo
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>>710996607
The fact that its 2016 and people still deny climate change.
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>>710995372
>>710995533
>>710995633
>>710995889
>>710995906
>>710996217
If all you can come up with is an insult, don't even bother.
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>>710996607
>Thinking every scientist in the world is "backed by leftists" while ignoring the fact that many republicans and right-wing media outlets are literally owned by oil and natural gas interests

We've ascended to a new height of autism.
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>>710994382
Idiot . "Muh guns" is just a meme created by Repubs
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>>710994566
Same. He is the closest it comes to my views on issues. Vote how you wish everyone would vote.
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>>710996792
>Not reading any replies to those

C'mon son.
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>>710994119
Trump. He will save western civilization.
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Gary Johnson.

My state is solid Red and is going to Trump either way.
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Hillary -- because I am not a moron or a bigot.
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>>710996200
Fucking this, man.
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>>710994566
What is a leppo and how many are there?
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>>710996731
>>710996801

They'll keep milking for money, saying 'oh we humans are so bad' buttfucking you all the way to Tokyo and back.. And you're loving every second of it.

Go on, rant at me, throw your cute statistics at me. It won't change a thing. I doubt any of you people can stay civil.
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No brainer.

Hillary 2016.
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>>710997029
>No brainer.

Yup, I found the no brainer.
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>>710996138
I know, I just really wish he was being a smartass
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>>710994119
Hillary because maybe Bernie is right and the progressives in congress can push her to the left. Also I can't bear the thought of what these Trumpfags will be like if he wins.
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Trump cause the world is already a shit let's just see what happens next and hope we all die in third world war
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>>710997003
>Show me all your facts, I don't care!

Yup, about what I expected, you retarded piece of shit.
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I wonder how much these Clinton supporters will jack off time the sight of Syrian refugees raping their sisters, mothers, and daughters. All of you make me fucking sick.
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>>710994663
Sauce?
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>>710996607
If you dismiss evidence on the basis of you suspecting it being leftist, then you have no right to even comment. Judge an argument on it's merits, not the person arguing.
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>>710997213
>narrative
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>>710997159
>What is Congress

Most of the shit any candidate has ever said they will do doesn't happen because we have a FUCKING CONGRESS

CONGRESS

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU ALL KEEP FORGETTING
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>>710994119
you know
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So much obvious shilling going on in these threads. How are you guys gonna feel when killary wants her refund?
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>>710994633
You can register to vote in person with a valid ID.
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>>710994902
Thatcher WAS amazing.

But I'm talking about the now. Hilary is a fucking embarrassment and voting a woman president will only make the entire sjw movement more fucking insufferable.
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>I voted for Hillary
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>>710997287
>autism
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>>710997003
>it won't change a thing
We know, you're a Trump supporter who believes climate change doesn't exist. You're beyond saving.
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>>710994119
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>>710994119
I voted Trump.

It was a case of the lesser of two evils (Clinton) or the weaker of two evils (Trump).

Clinton has like 10 things she wants to do that I disagree with. She will likely get ALL of them done, because of the amount of political leverage she has.

Trump has like 100 things he wants to do that I disagree with. He MIGHT get 1 one of them done.
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Hillary. I can't wait til all Trump retards get triggered more then SWJ tumblr fags. Cue all the tinfoil hat facebook tier muh freedoms, fema camps, guns etc etc memes.
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>>710994633
>average trump supporter.

Ok then these are the average Hillary supporters....

https://youtu.be/5Xp6QZrr1Bc
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>>710995454
You can take anything out of context. Looks like your handlers put a lot of time into that script.
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I am in Ohio and I voted for Trump!
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>>710994119
I don't like either, I just want to see the hollywood faggots and SJW of the world all have a nervous breakdown if he wins.

So I voted in the way that will give me the most entertainment.
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>>710996607
>>710996607
coming from a non-scientist backed by rightists, cease brainwashing yourself child
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>>710996005
Why do people do this? It's obvious that someone sewed that on...
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>>710994119
Trump.

Trump has no filter, doesnt talk like a politician. Cleaning out congress across the board sounds better than anything else I have heard in years.

Hillary is the most corrupt person I have ever read about. The shit she would be able to do as prez is horrifying.
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>>710994119
Project Veritas convinced me as a Hillary shill to completely switch to Trump's side
the DNC is literally fucking doing jew shit
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>>710997632
Similar to Brexit. I know plenty of people who werent too bothered about the EU, but got sick of all the celebs and people online telling them what to do. The breaking point was went they sent Obama over to try and scare us into staying.
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Come on guys just vote for trump. All you /b/ tards just want to troll all year and now is your chance!!!
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>>710994119
Trump and his supporters are the equivalent of chimps, they can't even handle one protester and have to fake an assassination to get him out. No one talks about it now but if it were a Muslim/Mexican/black protester, you wouldn't stop hearing about how that wall and blanket ban needs to come up asap, while Trump is corrupt himself. Meanwhile Hillary and the entire Democratic platform is corrupt after gimping Sanders. Everyone who voted Trump or Hillary should just kill themselves.
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>>710996355
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>>710995454
>2. Donald Trump advocating for open borders and globalism in 2013:

You know that Merkel, who tried to enforce this policy using the refugee movement in the EU, is one of Hillary's main heroes?

You can expect a flood of immigrants (i.e. mudslime shock troops and rape camps) to explode all over America in an effort to dissolve borders and disrupt state economies and to increase police sdtate mentality and efforts.

Sweden has failed as a state because there are no-go zones where immigrants are too dangerous for the police forces to cope with now. There are several American cities on the verge of that status already.

Hillary will work very hard to make America a reflection of her beloved German Empire, aka the European Union.
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Trump because fuck this gay Earth.
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>>710994119
Voted for Johnson. Fuck both main parties - corrupt bunch of faggots.
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>>710994119
Jill Stein

>>710994284
Vote Trump. Honest to God she'll make race relations worse than Trump will.
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>>710997294
What if the president declares congress obsolete? What are you going to do about it?
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>>710996979
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>>710997521
Yeah, no ones denying Hillary Clinton supporters are just as ridiculous as Trump supporters. Anyone who actually supports either candidates have clearly not done their research, they both are pretty shitty candidates. But voting doesn't imply support for them, more a preference of who should be in charge.

Trump undoubtedly has more supporters than Hillary, but Hillary has more voters.
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>>710996979
This is b8
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>>710994119
Voting trump for the after math. I wanna watch SJWs squirm
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>>710997110
Remember when Hillary cheated Bernie out of his rightful DNC nomination? Remember when Bernie could have been president?
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>>710997472
>>710997472
nice logic
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>>710997029
Nice b8
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>>710994382
>no more guns for niggers
If you plan on committing a crime with the gun you will just get one illegally.
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>>710997967
kek
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>>710997965
Lol - it'll never happen.
Bitch is corrupt, she ain't stupid.
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>>710997705
Jop. A chinese worker
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>>710994119
hillary because unlike you niggers i'm not a racist.
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>>710997933
Nigger leave my board
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>>710997907
The "no-go zones" are problem areas where police still do go to and they were problem areas before immigrants too.
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>>710997213
That's all fine and good if the person presenting the argument can be unbiased and neutral.

The problem is the same for the mainstream media. Instead of reporting on the news and letting us the public decide our opinion on the facts, they want to insert their op-ed into it which then skews the intent and taints the message.

I'm all for giving anyone a chance to persuade me to their side, but show me a true unbiased, uninfluenced scientific document that either proves or disproves global warming. Not something that either uses such a small test sample that gives false results, or something that is so politically backed that it cannot be trusted.

The answer truly is probably somewhere in between. There is slight warming, but nothing on the scale of what the left is trying to push. Also nothing that the earth itself wouldn't be able to "self right" and recover from.
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>>710998043
Stop living in the past faggot.
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>>710998090
Its too bad that Trump's official hats are califrame..
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>>710994119

I can't stop laughing, and neither can the rest of the world. The vast majority of the voters of America can't see that no matter who wins, America loses. It's a testament to the sheer idiocy of the people that brought them to this decision in the first place.

Both of them are the result of America's failure and are both the result America deserves. This country of volatile, emotionally unstable toddlers will serve as an example of what not to do to the rest of the sane and rational free world when America comes crumbling down and they continue to blame everyone but themselves. Good night, sweet prince.
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>>710997907
Why would Syrian refugees want to go to America? They want to go to a functional country which can provide them with some sort of welfare. That's why they are in Sweden and Germany.
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>>710998115
Hillary is racist tho. Shes white.
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Let's be honest; the only reason people are even considering voting for Hillary it's because the only other choice was Trump.
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>>710998181

Said the mudhut dweller, as he fended off the muslim invasion.
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>>710994119
Limberbutt
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My state is BLUE , so my vote don't matter ... but I will vote libertarian.
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>>710994541

> vote for someone cause climate change

Holy fuck your massive retard
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Not sure why anyone would vote trump after he picked a Goldman Sachs representative as his treasurer.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/steven-mnuchin-treasury-donald-trump-230716
What's left to hate about Clinton if trump is going to do the same thing
>he's an outsider
I guess lobbyists and people who buy out politicians are cosidered anti-establishment now according to trumpfags
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Trump.

Because I want to see the Republican party dismantled and reformed for libertarian and nationalistic interests as opposed to evangelical globalist interests.

Which, win or lose, I'm going to get my wish to come true regardless. My follow up wish is to see the Democratic party dismantled as well.
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>>710995372
Youre a litteral retard and must have been educated by no one at all
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>>710994826
>>710994541

If you actually care about the environment, vote green party. they're basically democrats with an emphasis on the environment
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>>710997838
Project Veritas is not a real thing. Way to go.
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>>710994633
Did you seriously screenshot a blatant troll thread?

Next you're going to screenshot one of the threads with a canadian IP.
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>>710994119
Voted for Clinton, but hated doing it.

Still, her mixture of Nixon and Harding is a mixture of evils we can probably survive. Trumps lack of self control and willful ignorance is more dangerous. Because my state is in play, I did not consider the minor party clowns, but if things had been pretty settled in my state I would have rejected them anyway as being clowns -- having more bad options does not seem to me to be a big step forward.

Then voted straight GOP on down the ballot in the hopes of restraining her excesses as much as possible.

Voted for the local bond referenda because they were some things that need to be done, and paying for them over time makes more sense to me than requiring the county to not do them for years while saving up money to pre-pay, or to raise taxes excessively to do them today. I got a mortgage on my house, don;t see a problem with taking out a mortgage top build some schools that have to be built.

Left the non-partisan judges blank because our idiot laws prevent them from campaigning to any real extent, so nobody is allowed to know dick about them,, it would just be voting based on "that seems like a nice name."
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>>710998369
Same boat - my state is red, and always is, but this year libertarians got on the ballot just in time.
Voted Libertarian where I could, with Repub for some of the local & state stuff.
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>>710998043
Remember when he started backing and campaigning for her?


Bernie is a sellout. Or a cuck.
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Not voting. I will not be complicit in this sham of an election.
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>>710994378
That would be the only upside of his election, to me. Not worth the damage he'd do though.

Still, it would be glorious...l
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Trump because im not a girly fufu bitch man like the male Hillary supporters are.
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>>710998481
>but hated doing it.
Good.

Remember, anon: She's your responsibility now.
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>>710998342
Oh boy, be sure not to cry too hard when your favourite demagogue doesn't win, or in the case of Trump, chimp out and whine that everything's rigged. Build a wall to the north, east, and west sides so you can fulfill this subconscious desire to quarantine yourselves, and all of the idiocy that comes with you.
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>>710998536
How does uniting to not get trump elected turn into selling out? Hope you aren't voting trump since he is the closes candidate to a cuck by having his wives pose nude
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>>710998454
That's right anon! Julian Assange is just a Russian mouthpiece too, it's illegal for us as citizens to look at the emails that Hillary had on her server!
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>>710996005
that's fake.
Trump knew people would check for this so his official hats are all made in america.

What does that tell you if the guy is slick enough to worry about where a hat is made, but hilldog cares so little about national security that she has her maid print out classified documents for her while she is away. HER FUCKING MAID. Yeah, our country will be in great hands if she wins....
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>>710994566
If nothing else, it would be funny to watch him meeting with world leaders and going, "Now, wait, who the fuck are you again?"
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Trump, because I hate niggers and beaners
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>>710994119
...That fuckwits think either of them are a good choice is why this country needs to die. Already packed all my shit for Canada.
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Vote for Trump. You don't wanna have a second Merkel, trust me...
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>>710994119
As an outsider who follows foreign politics here are my thoughts;
> Trump is a dick
> Hillary is corrupt as fuck
> Trump may start a few minor wars
> Hillary is likely to start major wars
> Hillary is likely short term to inspire minor civil unrest from whites and non SJWs
> Trump is almost certain short term to inspire massive civil unrest from browns, blacks and SJWs
> Trump is highly unlikely long term to let things escalate into full civil war
> Hillary is a bit more likely long term to inspire full civil war
> Trump will pull back from world politics, forcing americas traditional allies to forge new relationships
> Hillary will continue to bow down to globalism and support the UN and Saudi Arabia

All in all, I'd prefer a Trump victory but they're both terrible candidates. It'll be interesting to watch.
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>>710998674
Cunton has the technological skills as my 85 year old grandmother who's now dead.
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>>710998674
I forget that Trump sucking Putin's dick is much more favourable.
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>>710994625
Moron detected.
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>>710998468
Schizo paranoid detected
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>>710998437
>>710994541

Also, as far as general education goes it has gotten way worse under Obama despite the democrats preaching how only they care about education. Teachers pay is decreasing, bureaucracy and standardization is killing creativity and learning, and many public schools are just going unfunded and being replaced by even shittier private schools. Source: my parents are both teachers
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>>710998794
You're right, all we needed was a reset to the cold war, that's healthy.
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>>710995605
You can't honestly believe that she will keep the US out of wars. I mean, have you been living under a rock? She sais she will attack Iran when she becomes president. She said she will have a provocative stance on Russia like enforcing a no-fly zone in syria which equals declaring war on russia, which a US top general stated before congress. Are you daft. It's 2 minutes to doomsday and Hitlary will push forward a minute and a half in her first 6 months.
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>>710994692
Trump said, at a gathering full of NASA employees, that he wanted to fund NASA more. Elsewhere, he said it was a lower priority because we need more roads and bridges.

There is no sincere pro-space candidate in this election, sorry.
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>>710998823
He's been making threads all morning with the exact same format each time.

But have a (You) anyway.
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>>710994625
Funny coming from a Brit, when Germany has outclassed you so severly. With a woman at the top.
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>>710998789
yep, and her dumbass or her handlers will have so many "accidents" with state secrets it won't be funny.
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>>710998780
As a side note, I am disappointed that my nickname "Trumplings" for people who actually like Trump never took off.
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>>710998777
Trips of truth.
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>>710998972
Probably because it's dumb as fuck
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>>710995231
It still might be worthwhile to know what the fuck is going on. If he did not know what Aleppo was, or could not name a world leader, he doesn't even watch the fucking news or read a paper or anything. He's just ignorant as fuck.
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>>710998663
Assange will join sides with anyone to destroy Hillary as Hillary destroyed Wikileaks funding. Wikileaks = Only Assange and his crusade.
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>>710995984
Wrong. Pro climate change research is funded by the oil companies as a way to drive their only widespread competition, coal, out of business. Simple facts that you could research easily if you weren't too busy repeating propaganda just like everybody else.
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>>710998780
You forgot that Trump might just say fuck you to everyone and turn into a dictator. Just like the russians saw Stalin as someone who would "finally change the corrupt system". Voting for trump is purely emotional and not based on facts, not saying Hillary is good.
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>>710998894
Cold war never ended, bud.
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>>710994119
I'm with her.
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Johnson/Weld

Eat a dick, two party system
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>>710999040
That's the point. It sounds cutesy, which would drive the basement dwellers and skinny alt-right types who think liking Trump is "alpha" crazy
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>>710999096
I wish people like you would hang themselves.
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>>710997294
Did that stop obambo from doing dictator executive actions?
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>>710999101
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>>710995755
I believe that could have been done without fucking over so many other people.
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>>710995609
... because you need the president to be on site and help shovel water away with his bare hands?
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>>710998163
You're missing the entire point. If oil companies released research, then they too should be considered on their merits. That's how science works.
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>>710999116
While I would love to go back to the red scare days, how about we don't?
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>>710995114
> Kebab pizza
> from Sweden
Kek
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>>710998958
So many Wikileaks in the future.
So so many.
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>>710999255
Can't argue with dubs of justice. Sorry man.
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chekem
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>>710998378
Sorry but thats a better reason then muh maga
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Get
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>>710999101
>You forgot that Trump might just say fuck you to everyone and turn into a dictator.

That would be the best thing to ever happen to this country
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>>710994119
I'm not from the US but I'm definitely a leftist, so I'd obviously tend to voting Democrats if I could.
With this shitty election though, I've been thinking if voting Trump wouldn't be the "better" choice. There's a saying here that states "Things have to get worse before they get better.". Of course, a POTUS Trump would be horrific, both for the American people aswell as for the global community, but maybe that's what you guys need. You need rock bottom. Your idiotic right wing needs to see what their rethoric can lead to. Also, Trump supporters should have the chance to see their candidate fail, and we all know he would fail pretty hard.
On the other side, the DNC needs to reap the fruit of their betrayal of Bernie Sanders. They fucked him over big time. You know why? Because they KNEW that no matter what they do, they'd succeed. Even if - as it happened - the truth gets out about the bullshit they were pulling, people would still vote Democrats because they'd never want Trump to win the election. Fucking another Democratic candidate over was a win-win situation for Hillary. They should learn that this shit doesn't fly.
And yes, this sounds like I'm some sort of protest voter. Not sure if I am, I just think that if half of the US population actually buys into the shit that Trump says, well, let's give it to them.
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>>710994633 in canada you can just show up at the polling place on the day of the vote and register. You can literally wake up on Election day thinking you're not going to vote, and then change your mind and it will work out.
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Trump. He's a grenade and I have nothing left.
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>>710998903
Hows that worse than Trump wanting to use nukes and take oil by force whenever needed? Not to mention being Putins handpuppet.
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>>710999101
I left that out because its so even - the media control, legal double standards and preching "nanny state" ideals such as the SJW silencing of fredom of speech mean Hillary has already proven she's on her way there. They're dead even on that front.
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>>710997085
He's halfway there...
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>>710994119
Trumpu for the lulz.
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>>710994119
Voted for Hillary this morning
MA was going blue no matter though
Watching this thread for all the literal cucks voting Trump
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>>710999101
That can't happen because the president doesn't actually have all the power in the country you ignorant cuck. People are in need of deep reeducation if they believe Trump can turn into a dictator. He'll turn out to be the weakest president because all of his extreme and irrational plots will be stopped by congress, and since he has nothing else going for him in his campaign besides renegotiating NAFTA, will probably be impeached by his second year.
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Germanfag here

Do only rednecks vote for Trump? I really hope that Trump wins because of reasons
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>>710999454
And at that point I would rather a have nationalist demagogue than a corrupt globalist shill dictator
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>>710997213
>Judge an argument on it's merits, not the person arguing.
>Scientists all agree that...
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Stein is literally the only worthwhile candidate to vote for.
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>>710999525
Also German here, hope Trump wins as well, then the boring jokes about Hitler and the Nazis will finally stop after the Amerifats were dumb enough to fall for something like this even after having a well-known historical precedent.
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Clinton.

Presidents are diplomats, amongst other things. Even if ours doesn't have as much power, other leaders do, and how interact with other nations influences trade, war, and how much extra crap we end up going through as citizens. Clinton may be dull, robot-like, even dishonest at times, but Trump has equally negative traits, plus a few worse ones. Trump may have had sexual exploits which paint him in a bad light, but I don't care about personal lives with regard to holding office, so that's irrelevant. What bothers me more is his lack of impulse control. He talks without thinking, he blurts out insults, he openly threatens people and encourages dangerous behavior. He had stated outright that he doesn't trust scientists, he is against vaccinations, and he likes war. He changes his position as often as Hillary, but doesn't have the integrity to own up to any of it. That, or he has so little self awareness that he doesn't even realize when he changes, which is more scary to me by far. People talk about him being rich, but he ran several businesses into the ground, with four bankruptcies that I know of. He responded to that information by saying it's "good business" and that many companies do that. The second part is true, they do, but it's only for the CEOs and other top-level fuckers like him. Everyone working there, and all the shareholders, are fucked. I don't want a person who thinks like that making decisions for the country, especially when he said he'd "run it like a business".

I'm not responding to anything else here, but there's your answer OP.
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>>710999230
No, I see your point. You are missing mine. Find me a 3rd party non affiliated, unbiased scientific review that says if there is global warming or not.

Anything else is potentially tainted information that could have been skewed to match the opinion of the group driving the report.

There is no "on it's merits" to judge from.

Marvel releases a review on the new Dr. Strange movie and touts it as being the latest greatest in the long line of superhero movies.
DC releases a review calling it one this years biggest stinkers. How can I take either opinion "on it's merits" no matter how much data they try to throw at it. Knowing either party has a biased opinion makes the whole review suspect and untrustworthy.
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>>710997736
She would do the same as everyone else. Everyone is corrupt. The system is corrupt. Litterally nothing would change. Thats even a usual trump argument "we dont want another 4 years of obama". You guys should make up your mind.
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>>710994729
cringe
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>>710999525
Shouldn't you be sucking Muslim cock right about now, Kraut?
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>>710997157
Expected from a trump supporter amirite
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More like what flavor of shit sandwich is America going to eat today, grilled or fried? Both candidates are terrible, but Hillary is the same old standard terrible, so let's try some new terrible. Either way, we eat shit today and every day for the next 4 years!
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>>710998065
If you've ever lived in a country that is first world and has gun control, then you'd know how difficult it is to get a gun illegally. Not to mention the price.
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>>710999447
As someone who hates both candidates I honestly think it's (slightly) worse because everyone knows Trump was talking out of his ass, while Hillary would actually do it.
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>>710998623
So said the unemployed 17 year old.
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>>710999634

Yeah, but germans will be triggered with Hitler 4 ever (dont ask me why) poorly no german is able to be patriotic
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>>710997405
>>Lets build a wall and let the Mexicans pay for it
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can't vote

but if i could, this would be a good reason why
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>>710997341
Registration laws vary by state... but my understanding is that you can register for the Presidential election only on election day everywhere.
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>>710994119
Gary Johnson.

I thought about voting for Sasquatch as well because its going to produce the same result though.
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>>710994119
Can't America hurry up, pick its poison and die already?
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>>710994119
Voted Trump when early voting started. I don't want a war with Russia. I want NAFTA gone. Whoever wins, there will be riots I'm sure.
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>>710999523
Thats only if we have a president playing by the rules, like clinton. You forget the president also commands the army. Youre a litteral blue pill if you think its not possible.
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0000000 for trump
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>>710999525
I'm voting for him. MAGA prayers are with you, Germany. We're just trying to do our part to save the world m9.
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>>710997472
Interesting take.

My concern was nto so much with what he WANTED to do, as with what he might suddenly decide to do. A President with ppooor impulse control can do a lot of damage before anybody can stop him, what with all those bombs and drones and shit he can send off when he gets pissed that Kim Jong Un didn't reply to his Tweet at 2 in the morning.
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niggers
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>>710999901

This
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711999999
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>>710999673
Yeah. Really even his policy positions (when coherent) hardly matter. The president is an executive office, and his ability to think clearly and make good decisions is like twelve-year-old's.
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>>710998115
>niggers
>i'm not a racist.

average Hillary supporter here folks
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>>710999999
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>>710999677
Jesus fuck anon youre comparing science with movie reviews. Science can be verified by yourself, you can look at the paper, the methodology, the calculus, etc. Given that you know anything about science of course.
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>>711000058
So THAT's why he has so much money. thanks for clearing that up.
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there's one good thing out of all this crap. all politics aside, and just to deal with the stress i've been fapping to Ivanka
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>>710998090
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>>710999673
>he said mean things
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>>711000179
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>>710999906
>You forget the president also commands the army.
Which can refuse unlawful orders, such as 'make me a dictator pls'.
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TRUMP IS THE ONLY CHOICE TO PREVENT WAR WITH RUSSIA
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>>710998369
I live in Michigan, which I guess has become a huge swing state this season. I voted 3rd party because their values most align with mine
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>>710998181

America is a joke
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>>710994541

NASA Already isn't funded by the government anymore retard
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>>711000121
I am not comparing science to movie reviews. I was trying to come down to your level with something you could comprehend. Sorry guess it's still over your head.
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>>710999768
Best analogy eva anon.
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>>711000159
Hey, man, he even got a college degree at one point. But that was a long time ago and I don't think he's been keeping his mind sharp since then.
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>>711000159
Paris Hilton makes better business decisions than Trump.
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Isn't she indicted yet?
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This election should be the impetus for millennials to not just post on Facebook or Tweet their opinions about politics and actually get out there to vote. The reason we have the two shit candidates we have is because people, usually young people, don't care enough about politics until its too late (Bernie).

Fucks sake, if we want to see a change we had better get started soon for the 2020 election.
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>>710994378

You're a fat virgin.
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>>710998532

For your consideration -- my state was always red in Presidential elections, going back to before it was called "Red States" and "Blue States." Now we are "Purple," polls ending last night showed Clinton up by 2 points. Obama won here in '08, Romney in '12.

It changed because people vote differently now. A state goes red or blue if you gusy who live there vote that way. You cann change it at any time.

Harder to do if you are dicking around with the one percent party...
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>>711000376
As well, you have to be registered with a party to participate in their primary. And this very sort of displeasure with those parties discourages that affiliation. Circular, isn't it?
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>>710995454
>finding the tendencies of a dictatorship objectively impressive
>being a dictator

those would be 2 different things my friend.
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Even your language has become the same, with all the Hitler comparisons, "cuck", and excessive use of the word "literally".

To put my point into words you'll understand;
> You pathetic cucks are literally blind to the fact that supporters on literally both sides are literally the same (random use of "shill"). Both candidates are literally corrupt and literally shouldn't be literally running for office. They have literally both shown themselves to be untrustworthy literally dozens of literally times, and literally both have similarities to literally hitler, but you cucks literally refuse to see it.


Literally.
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>>710996355
So many. You're right. I'm changing my vote.
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>>710995288
>promises free universal health care
>5 years later he gives us the AHA, which just basically says "you have to buy insurance now or you will be fined by me" leading insurance premiums on a constant rise for the past 2 years and into the foreseeable future, destroying the affordable co-pays we had, and the only actual affordable health plans are offered only to welfare fucks who work less than 5 hours a week.
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>>711000301
Lol. Did you just throw that together? Nice. I'll take half credit on this project.
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>>710994119

Clinton.

Trump is a demagogue.
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>>711000575
Isn't the appeal of celebrity the thing that got Trump where he is?
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>>711000376
Remember when the lizard lady stole the election from Bernie? Some people actually want to vote for her, it's unbelievable.
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>>711000549
This. I can't even tell who anyone is arguing for anymore, it's all the same shit on both sides.
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>>710999827
This straw poll is eerily similar. Has been every day since it started.
http://www.strawpoll.me/11309360/

>inB4 sampling error
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>>710998937
> outclassed
nice joke with that one, literally every german inc myself hates Merkel
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>>711000610
Sure did, half and half sounds peachy.
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>>711000586
The rate at which those premiums were rising has barely increased or decreased. They were on the rise before and after.
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>>711000726
>http://www.strawpoll.me/11309360/
Giant Meteor 2016. Make America Crater Again
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>>710999677
Science isn't subjective like that, and reviews aren't based on fact. So it's not even worth comparing the two.
Also, a "scientific review" means something completely different to what you're saying.

http://www.csiro.au/en/Research/OandA/Areas/Oceans-and-climate/Climate-change-information
I figured I'd find some evidence from a country somewhat similar but different from the US for comparison. Note that Australia seem to be one of the biggest users of carbon per person in the world.
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>>711000669
i guess.

2020, Kayne West for Prez
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why vote? they are both vatican-controlled shills
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>>711000834
GTFO nigger
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>>710999523
That's what the Romans said. And the Germans, and the Italians, and a lot of people over the centuries. The only real way to avoid eventually getting a dictator is to avoid letting somebody with dictatorial tendencies get any real power at all.

>>710999906
The above notwithstanding, I sincerely doubt Trump has the personal loyalty of "the army" to cause them to follow illegal orders and support him in a coup. Whether that would still be the case after a few years of being in control, doing a little hiring and firing and promoting and demoting, I'd just as soon not find out.
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>>710994566
I jumped on the Johnson too!
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>>711000549
The difference in their use of "shill" is that the majority of Trump supporters are doing it for free while it is confirmed that Hillary has a massive army of people who are paid to obscure the truth in her favor, which is the definition of shilling.

http://correctrecord.org
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>>711000586
>the only actual affordable health plans are offered only to welfare fucks who work less than 5 hours a week
that's how it's supposed to work you help the sick who can't pay fucking idiot
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>>711000714
As Obama showed us, it's all in the fingers.
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>>711000798
"If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health plan."

1.5 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY LOST OBAMACARE THIS YEAR, 2.7 MILLION PEOPLE ARE PROJECTED TO LOSE OBAMACARE NEXT YEAR.

90%+ WILL SEE AN INCREASE IN INSURANCE PREMIUMS BETWEEN 60-150%

Many states only have ONE insurance company to choose from in the "open market" where they were supposed to have MORE choices. (This is the definition of a monopoly and highly illegal in the US)


http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/obamacare-is-failing-exactly-the-way-critics-said-it-would/


Try again, shitlord. Not one single person's premiums were increasing 100%+ year over year before Obamacare.
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>>710999903
That's a retarded reason to vote trump since Russia and the US made a no fly zone together already.
http://mobile.wnd.com/2016/10/russia-beats-u-s-to-punch-on-syria-no-fly-zone/
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>>711000834
Hahah, I joked a couple months ago that he'd make a great VP pick for Trump. They really do operate on the same wavelength if you look at it. From different eras, but I think their minds are similar.
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Stein for le ganGreen pussy
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>>711000248
>>711001011
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>>711000270
NASA is a government agency, 100% funded by the government.

Elon Musk is not NASA , and without the ability to suck the government teat he'd be out of the space business in a heartbeat. Same with the car industry, or the solar industry, etc...
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>>711000950
No.

It's not supposed to damn-near bankrupt the middle class while welfare kings and queens pay a $5 premium for the same fucking healthcare. That's not how it's supposed to work and it's not American.

You fucking idiot.
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>>711000858
If you even have to ask, you don't belong in legitimate political discussion.
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While Obamacare isn't perfect its better than the voucher program Mittens was pushing in 2012.

Fuck the whole system though, single party system is the way to go. Health care should - not - be a profit center.
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>>710995454
Shh, you'll shatter all their delusions.
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>>711001117
Second
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>>711000801
That's who I voted for. We were within seven points of the shitgibbon last week, but he rallied and pulled ahead. Shillary has been running 13%±1% consistently.
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>>711000159
By that criterion, I think it is maybe even more impressive how Hillary went from "flat broke" to rich as fuck in so few years.
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Remain ofc
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>>710994119
H
Because I have an IQ greater than 90.
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>>710994119
Trump.
Immigration, national security, economics, healthcare, etc.
Hillary will bring us to war with Russia, import millions of third world muslim immigrants, and ban guns causing a civil war.
Trump will destroy ISIS, build a wall, bring back American jobs, stop taxing the poor, defend the constitution, build strong relations with Russia, put China in its place, etc.
Trump is better.
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>>710995454
THIS. Cretins will dig into the deepest depths of opposing candidate, then take everything theirs says and does at face value, and ignore their fuckery. This is the election America deserves. American stupidity is incomprehensible.
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>>711000549
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>>711000885
>avoid letting somebody with dictatorial tendencies get any real power at all.

and then you are tearing at the democracy. Is a democracy where no everyone can be elected or is allowed to vote still a democracy?
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Why do amerifags still have this shitty election system? Most of you know that it is substandard and want a change don't you?
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>>710994119
dont fuck us on this america, make the smart decision
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Can any Americafag give me a realistic opinion? Is it possible for Trump to become President ? I really hope so
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>>711001260
>$0.10 has been deposited into your account
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>>711000680
Hillary got the nomination because all of the superdelegates supported her. the people's will did not matter. it's anti-democracy.

not only that, but there's tons of evidence of Hillary's corruption. clinton foundation, clinton cash, george soros, wall street & pay to play, pulling strings to get the FBI investigation dropped, etc.

between her and Trump, Trump is the obvious choice. plus Trump has a solid platform: google Trump on the issues and see for yourself.
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>>711001103
I would say that IS exactly how it was intended to "work," to allow them to swoop in and say, "Well, we tried, only single payer government monopolized health care can save us now."
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>>711001333
it's very possible, as long as he gets enough swing states.
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>>711001004
I've seen a few similar graphics. Not sure if they're from the same source or not. For some people prices skyrocket here and there, but on average, it's a pretty similar slow march of doom.
I am of the opinion that the enormity of medical expense in the US probably comes from an industry cabal artificially keeping the prices of equipment high.
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>>711000950
are you fucking retarded? When I was making like 13 dollars and hour living in ultra retarded cost of living CT, living paycheck to paycheck I'm expected to pay like $100 a week for Healthcare? I had to get a union job just to find a fucking actually affordable plan, yet you're gonna go ahead and say that it's OK, the leach scum that won't even bother paying their co-pays can get insurance now, and have the government pay their premiums, means it's working? I hope you suffer when you're off mummy and dada's family plan you liberal scum
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>>711001333
Yes. If you cut away all the bullshit he has a decent shot. But it will most likely be a narrow-ish Clinton victory.
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>>711001287
The best part of this is that pretty much everyone has similarities to everyone else if you dig deep enough, this election it's been kicked into overdrive
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>>710994119

Hilary. Because she's sensible, moderate and competent.
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>>710999777
You are talking about countries that have always controlled their population from having access to weapons. The closet the US can be compared to is Australia, and look out their gun ban turned out. And that is the shitty results of a country that is blocked off from any other by land.

So if guns were banned in the US, it would be 10x the shit show. Plus the fact that we share a land border with Mexico. Look at the war on drugs and you can assume what will happen next if guns are banned. Protip: They will come pouring in.

Plus it is a big business that isn't going to die down any time soon. It is more cost effective to keep the guns legally rolling into the market.
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>>711001275
>>711001011
A little late to the war propaganda.
Trumps economy plans are shit as well as his immigration policies which are only reviled by Japan because they don't take refugees. His health care plans ante plans, they are putting it back to how it used to be which is equally bad.
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>>711001287
But what if, sometimes, somebody is Hitler? It happened once...
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>>711001502

No i mean are there enough voters to beat hilary ?
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>>711001314
Our chance to do that was squandered i nthe primaries. We're stuck with shit A or shit B now.
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>>711001557
>Trumps economy plans are shit
no they aren't.

Trump wants a streamlined tax system, with 12%, 25%, and 33% brackets. he wants to cut taxes for working/middle classes, while not overtaxing the rich (as that would dry up capital investment). these tax cuts would be offset by job/business growth.
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>>710994119
Earliest polling puts Hillary over Trump. Too early to tell for sure, but I think we are going to be ok. I don't think Trump will win. As long as people don't go full potato and throw votes at Drumpf we will be just fine. First the election, then banning assault weapons, increasing taxes on the wealthy, getting more government programs in place to assist those impoverished in our inner cities and subjected to addiction to drugs, tax dollars being spent as they should be, to help those who are the neediest. Also, time to cut down on excessive military spending. We need to DOWNSIZE the military and cut the salaries of these juiced up murderers. I know we need some military, but come on, we spend more on the military than the next 25 countries ranked under us COMBINED! What we need to do is focus on moving toward a global model where we dissolve political borders and all unite as one race. A United Earth if you will. The first step is voting in Hillary and continuing the established trend of moving further to the left and away from outdated and regressive ideas. We as a people have largely moved past issues like racism and bigotry, let's show these Trumptards we won't let them drag us back!
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IF ANYONE HERE HID A GOVERNMENT SERVER IN THEIR BASEMENT THEY WOULD BE IN PRISON - NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT !!!

The FBI -and- CIA told her NOT to do it - BEFOREHAND.

Like I said if any person in this forum- or really pretty much any other human tried that they would be in prison!!
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>>710995231
>>710996138
>>710999066
all this projecting
they asked him about aleppo with little context, he thought it was an acronym or something like that. if you really want to belittle a candidate for something so god damn stupid, you need to check your priorities
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>>711001545
You must be trolling. Competent?

Hillary Clinton gave her CLASSIFIED (National Secrets) EMAILS TO HER FUCKING MAID who didn't have a security clearance AT ALL

Completely unhinged, incompetent, and batshit retarded on top of committing mutiple felonies (Yes, the above mentioned IS a felony)

You think the Russians would have to hack thousands of computers to steal our classified documents?

No, they'd just have to push for a complete idiot like Hillary to get elected.

You trust this crazy bitch with the nuclear codes?

kek

You can't make this shit up

http://nypost.com/2016/11/06/clinton-directed-her-maid-to-print-out-classified-materials/
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How has no one even mentioned the fact that Trump wants to give himself a tax break of 20%? Doesn't a businessman catering to big businesses make you at least a little suspicious? Both Hillary and Trump are for big businesses, one just has a greater stake in it.
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>>711001699
also, Trump wants to replace Obamacare, not go back to status quo.

Trump wants health insurance to be sold across state lines which would help alot.
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>>711001590
Of course.
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>>710994119
Gary, with 100% confidence
next to worst thing that can happen is if he gets 5%, libertarians get funding for their next campaign.
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