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Sup /b/ I just wrote a 1000 word essay, why haven't you done anything useful today like me?
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>>710852772

>dialectical

Stopped reading here.
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>>710852772
>Second sentence
>Capitalism is intrinsically exploitative and always produces a disgrunted lower class
>herewego.jpg
>High school philosophy class
>Strawman after strawman
>I don't understand capitalism so this is why its bad
>I wouldn't be able to write this essay while drinking my pumpkin spice latte without capitalism, still bad
>Communism has never succeeded (BUTS ITS NEVER BEEN TRIED)
Every sentence implies the reader agrees with your facile statements
F-
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>>710852772
Not a bad piece of writing. I'm going to type it all up and place it online so when your teacher googles it, it comes back as a previous essay. Dumbass
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>>710853051
Please do it
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>>710852882

Fuck it I'm back.

So OP, do YOU see a revolution in the west as inevitable? Surely if it was going to happen it would have been after ww1, when much more of the population worked in heavy industry and poverty was far more severe?
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>>710852772
I've been revising for my last two exams.
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>>710853051
You think I didn't consider that possibility before I posted?

I concluded that the risk of my teacher googling the essay was low enough that it was worth posting it to rub in your face that I'm productive and you're not.
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>>710853051
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>>710853147
No I don't, but Marx did.
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>>710852772
Is mindless babble a subject.. go get into engineering fucktard
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>>710853048

This is how communists operate. And if you disagree it is either because

A) You've not read and understood enough theory
B) You're a capitalist

Either way they will ignore you.
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>>710852772

Holy shit, a WHOLE one thousand words?! And none of it referenced? Day well spent!
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>>710853178
Writing a high school essay is something to be proud of.
>Nice bait
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>>710853283
>implying you're not a capitalist
How about you move North Korea and write your essays there. No touching western inventions, though
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>>710853048
>Capitalism is intrinsically exploitative and always produces a disgrunted lower class

But it does. Surely you don't believe that capitalism produces prosperity for everyone? That's literally impossible and the direct opposite of what capitalism is about. Everything I've said flows logically:

>capitalism
>some get rich some stay poor
>poor get mad that they're poor because they're underpaid
>poor revolt

What part of that is hard to understand? It doesn't matter WHY they're poor. Marx was just explaining that this was why he believed revolution was inevitable.

I'm not a communist. I was merely explaining why Marx thought the way he did.
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>>710853336
More than your fat ass has done today.
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>>710852772
Nice essay. I didn't do anything useful today because it was Sunday- Oh, and because I'm retired at 38.
Have fun in school, kiddo.
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>>710853222

And yet here we are. IMO there will never be a global prole revolution. Every revolution has simply been exchaning one ruling class for another. Cause only when there is a prize, be it power or wealth, will people actually put it all on the line. People are selfish. Very few would take to the streets to fight the rich and the state in the knowledge that if they won all their hard fought prizes would be given to people who didn't fight.

Beyond this however, I think that people in the west are too comfortable too weak and too passive these days for a revolution to happen in the first world. Well except the far right. Something might happen there.
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>>710852772

If only there was some way to ameliorate the tension that is inherent in any hierarchical pyramidal system. One where the "losers" or lower tiered people considered themselves equal or higher to the people at the top of the pyramid.
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>>710853259
I've got an offer to study law from a world top 30 university, go fuck yourself m8 :)
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>>710853259
This. Graduate high school, go into an actual field of study and then make money in it. That will leave us impressed. Not really, most of us have already done that.
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>>710853465
Implying that /b/ is even composed of fat neckbeards anymore. Nice b8 m8
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>>710853523

Right but you realise socialism is a total joke? Intelligent people tend to like it not cause they think it is practicable but because it signals they care deeply about equality and especially the working class. It becomes a pseudo-intellectual circle-jerk, as by your own admission the best you can do is await the revolution. Revolution (leftist) in the west seems unlikely to the extreme. The right however it may come. Ask yourself (or me) why and you'll see that most leftists aren't really that interested in revolutioning.
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>>710853432
Yet he does not discuss the economics of either system and only talks about the phycological dissatisfaction of shaping your life around material goods and feeling as a expendable commodity. >As if mindlessly working for the state, without consideration of personal desires, aspirations, or talents is not a more rewarding experience
>As if the material goods that are our only source of happiness (source) is so much worse than no goods at all, nothing to place meaning on other than the present.
>As if people aren't even poorer in a communists society, even the rich.
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>>710853508
I pretty much agree with you. My essay was explaining Marx's theory, not my own opinions. This is how Marx would counter you:

>you are right about every revolution being an exchange of power. this is called 'dialectical materialism' and is a result of conflicts of interests
>however, eventually the conflicts of interests between the classes will grow less and less polarised following each revolution, resulting in peace because society would have reached its ultimate development point

>Cause only when there is a prize, be it power or wealth, will people actually put it all on the line. People are selfish.

>this is only because you are under a 'false class consciousness' and you cannot see how you are being exploited. Instead, you can only see the path to happiness as being through material goods (i.e. being a wagecuck) because that is what you're conditioned to believe because it benefits the ruling class who can use you for cheap labour
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>>710853523
Yea and I'm an Econ student at an ivy league but it doesn't mean jack shit unless I use it to promote myself.
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Because the day is young. I have loads of stuff to do but not now.
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God this is cringeworthy. Acting like some half arsed paper about a subject no-one gives a shit about impresses anyone other than the prick marking it and they usually only do it cause they have too. Honestly just do what you gotta do and stop looking for validation of some people of the internet
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Got my AS Physics exam tomorrow morning lol done no study
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>>710854032
>>710853523
top 18 world university
I attribute my getting in to not defending Marx
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>>710853857
>As if mindlessly working for the state, without consideration of personal desires, aspirations, or talents is not a more rewarding experience

Actually, Marx believed that the state would eventually wither away because there would be no need for it. Max said that the primary justification for the existence of the state was to oppress the working class, and with the working class in power there would be no need for a state to exist.

>marx's views, not my own
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>>710854234
Theorizing is fun and all, I'd love to see that theory in practice...
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>>710853825
>Right but you realise socialism is a total joke?

My essay was not about socialism. It was about Marxism.

>It becomes a pseudo-intellectual circle-jerk, as by your own admission the best you can do is await the revolution.

No, that's what MARX thought. Marx was opposed to improving the living conditions of the working class because it would placate them and make them less likely to revolt. Marx's views are now considered out of date and socialists instead support improving the conditions of the working class through gradual reform, not through revolution.

I do not believe that we are complete individuals with no care for other members of society. Nor do I believe that we are like ants in a colony who are willing to give ourselves to the state. I believe that we are primarily individuals, but we are all constrained by tenuous links towards each other. We are unable to withstand the suffering of other members of society who we do not even know, even if helping them doesn't benefit us.

I am very much in favour of nationalisation. I love the NHS.
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>>710853920

>this is only because you are under a 'false class consciousness' and you cannot see how you are being exploited. Instead, you can only see the path to happiness as being through material goods (i.e. being a wagecuck) because that is what you're conditioned to believe because it benefits the ruling class who can use you for cheap labour

>wagecuck

hey left/pol/

Bit of an odd thing for Marx to say given a maxim of leftism is 'have-nots = gonna-gets'. What carrot, if not material, did Marx or does modern marxism, think will motivate the people to revolution? Cause that their material deprivation is part of their motivation suggests that material gain will certainly be a part of any post-revolution scenario.

>however, eventually the conflicts of interests between the classes will grow less and less polarised following each revolution, resulting in peace because society would have reached its ultimate development point

I would counter that the gulf in class is growing but revolutionary sentiment isn't. At least the revolution from the left isn't growing.

The right is gainng in popularity because they offer simple solutions to obvious problems. The left is hemmed in by their own fear of being called Stalinist and their dogmatic attitude to internationalism.

There is another way...
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>>710852772
Please fucker, talking to a PhD lit-fag here; 1000 words isn't an essay, it's an introduction.
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>>710854032
Yeah good for you m8, hope you do well.

I'm just saying that I'm not wasting my time here. I AM set up for a good degree with high earning potential, unlike what the other poster said.
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>>710852772
What a load of horseshit

also
> which would be act as a force against counter-revolutions

retard
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>>710854571
>What carrot, if not material, did Marx or does modern marxism, think will motivate the people to revolution?

Marx gave two things:

Firstly, the working class would eventually become so exploited and poor due to capitalism that they 'wake up' and realise that they were being exploited all along.

Secondly, Marx suggested that there should be a small 'vanguard' of leaders to teach the proletariat to abandon its false class consciousness and revolt. This would be like the Bolsheviks.

Another thing that socialists say but Marx didn't, is that people can be motivated by moral incentives as well as materialistic ones.
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>>710854852
I changed it literally seconds after I posted m8 and I haven't even submitted yet.
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>>710852772
1000 words bitch please that kid stuff

I had to write a year long paper of 250 pages min. 12 pt font and all that shit schools love
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Wow. I am also so impressed that you can write a high school essay with no references.
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>>710854525
>Marx's views are now considered out of date and socialists instead support improving the conditions of the working class through gradual reform, not through revolution.

So dirty reformists are all that is left?

The rest of your shit is fair enough. I'd suport using the state to redistribute wealth from the top as modern tech has essentially ensured that those at the top in say the 80s have pretty much cemented their position and will from here on out just continue to get richer. As robots take our jerbs some kind of redistribution will be needed or revolution may just be back on the cards.

So yeah. Essentially I have nationalist sentiments but also a streak of anti-capitalist, or at least anti-excessive-capitalist/anti-corporatism. I jst can't stand fucking self identified 'leftists'.
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>>710854315
I'm not saying that I agree with Marx's views, I'm just explaining what they were.

I think that even if this peaceful, ultimate development in society's evolution where there is no conflict of interest between the classes could be reached, capitalism would soon start up again and we'd start back at feudalism because people are ultimately self-motivated.
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>feeling proud about 1000 word essay
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>>710855141
I'm not American, but I always cringe at the way you guys talk about the left and the right, the 'libtards' and the 'republicucks'. It's just painful how hard you generalise and how vicious you are with taking the EXTREMES and representing that as the norm.

I've never met one of these 'self-entitled leftists', and the ones I have met who are vaguely entitled are nowhere near as bad as you guys make out.

Why are you guys so hateful? Why do you always have a hot head? Why can't you just chill and have a discussion without childish name-calling?
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>>710855187
>no conflict of interest between the classes
that's not about what system we use, it's about having an all-white homogenous society. You can't have a single opposing religion, dogma, or agenda from everyone around you. It's really really fucking hard to get people to get along. It's why humans have been at war since dawn of man. We are living in the safest era in history in terms of casualties from war or crime and still it feels like a constant warzone.
Niggers, man
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Just finished a 9000 word essay on Climate change and infectious diseases in the Arctic last night.
It was a good learn.
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>>710852772
1000 word essay? Okay good job high school kid you should be proud! But you aren't high school kid

Good job farting out the anti capitalist bullshit your 100 level sociology class taught you. Wow you must be really smart these are really interesting and original perspectives you are regurgitating.
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>>710855256
Probably more than most people on /b/ do in a month tbf
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>>710852772
>1000 word "essay"
>useful
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>>710855369
You can't have a single opposing religion, dogma, or agenda from everyone around you.

Marx disagrees.

Marx said that the ultimate cause of conflict and driver of history was the economy and social class. He called this the 'base', and he argued that EVERYTHING was a product of this base. That includes religion, societies, any other groups. He referred to all these products of the base as the 'superstructure'.

Marx argued that if you change the economic system, you'd find that the superstructure would change too. If people were not divided by class, there would be no cause for conflict.
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take it from a person that got his essay published in a magazine, that piece of work you showing off will probably be in the trash by the end of next week
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>>710854952

>Firstly, the working class would eventually become so exploited and poor due to capitalism that they 'wake up' and realise that they were being exploited all along.

This is what I was getting at above when I said without reform there may be some kind of revolution. But the modern left has been duped into seeing things like feminsim as a win. Essentially the left has given up fighting for their native workers as the most effective way of doing so today flies in the face of their sacred cow of internationalism.

The left needs to redefine itself in some way if it wants to be relevenat again beyond identity politics and 'international solidarity' with people who don't help the cause.

The modern left should be making the case that with so much tech we can produce much with far less labour than ever before and so fighting for things like UBI. But the small section of the left who give primacy to the material are still obsessing over the intricacies of 100 year old- largely irrelevant- theory, and kidding themselves that Marx' revolution is right around the corner.


>This would be like the Bolsheviks.

Or 'philosopher kings'? See even here, despite what the vanguard may say, their motivation is at least in part the power over others their new role would offer.
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>>710855596
You think there was a social class 10,000 years ago? Do you think that perhaps humans arranging themselves into a social class, voluntarily or not is in our nature?
It would seem like an evolutionary advantage to do so.
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I responded to a cardiac arrest at my job as an EMT.
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>>710855621
>But the small section of the left who give primacy to the material are still obsessing over the intricacies of 100 year old- largely irrelevant- theory, and kidding themselves that Marx' revolution is right around the corner.

See >>710854525

Socialists no longer believe in revolution. Instead, they advocate reform. Ironically, this reform that improves the conditions of the working class reduces their willingness to revult because they become content with their situation.
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>>710855764
I believe that it is in human nature to be greedy and self-interested, and that it was this that naturally led to the formation of numerous strata of society.

I keep saying that the views in the essay and the views in my posts are Marx's views, unless I explicitly say they are my own.
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>>710855368

Neither am I my snaggle-toothed comrade. I am so hateful because the modern left has become a parody of itself with safe-spaces and trigger words, wage gaps, institutional racism and the one that mostly grinds my gears, their complete disregard for freedom of speech. And tbh the extremes you talk about are becoming more and more prominent. The left (liberal-left to be more precise) is fresh out of ideas. They're stuck in the mindset of tories bad, not tories good. And they've had more than a few rude awakenings recently. So they lash out. Everyone who voted for Brexit is a xenophobic pleb. It never strikes this 'left' that the people who voted for Brexit are acting in their own self-interest. There is a gorwing gap between left and right. Much of thus has been driven by 'leftist' 'intellectuals' speaking down to the working class.
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>>710855441
In 1000 words I regurgitated the same bullshit every other kid openly accepted because they also can't think for themselves and it got me a B+!

Boy I must be really smart tho right?
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>>710855972
I think you get too much of your information from memes.
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>>710855596

>Marx said that the ultimate cause of conflict and driver of history was the economy and social class.

I think he was wrong. Ideology is far more divisive today.
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You've literally spouted bullshit, not one single oringal or thought provoking point

Well done OP you're 12
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>>710855984
Silly, silly. This was an essay to understand Marx's theory. Those were not my own views. We never, ever have to put our own political views in essays in Britain, and we are never told what to think, only given options.

Before socialism we did conservatism, and before that we did liberalism (not liberalism as you Americans know it, I'm talking about freedom-style, capitalist liberalism).

And you know what? I can see merit in all of them. But I can make my own mind up.

You must have it really bad in American schools.
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>>710856076
I would agree.

>marx's views, not my own
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>>710856176
This wasn't an essay about my own views m8, this was a task to understand Marx's theory.

See >>710856210
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>>710855873

>Socialists no longer believe in revolution. Instead, they advocate reform. Ironically, this reform that improves the conditions of the working class reduces their willingness to revult because they become content with their situation.
My problem with these 'Socialists' (assuming we're talking about the plitical class for a second) is that they are largely members of larger, secret agenda type, organisations. In the UK this is the Fabian Society, who up until Corbyn provided Labour with their song-sheet. As a result of being a product of Fabian thinking, most labour party MPs are actually internationalist socialists and their method is gradualism. This is why you'll never hear a socialist candidate talking about immigration in a negative light. So when these reforms are offered by the 'left' over here, they are actually a smokescreen for something that is in the long run bad for the working class of the UK.
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>>710856210
Great defense. Typically understanding a concept doesn't involve a 1000 role play essay and then followed up by masturbatory post here.

Gosh you must be doing quite well in self regard if this is your arena for self gratification
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>>710852772
>writing essay
>on anything
>useful

haha ur a fagget op.

also thou marx wasn't critical enough of the state.
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>>710856052

I disagree. What I said sums up nicely the modern 'left'. You will see yourself as you are going to university soon, but I suspect even then you'll rationalise it away. Consider that he left has always been over-represented among students. Now look at the most pressing 'student politics' of the day.
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>>710852772
Say "alienated" "intrinsically" "exploited" more. Don't use a 4 syllable word when a 2 syllable word will do. It's not impressive when you throw around the same 5 words over and over just because they're big and they mean what you're saying. You can get your point across without being a hammer and bashing your explanations into your poor professors head like he's a bent nail.

Seriously, man.

>"The class dialectic was inevitably adversarial".
Oooooh look at you, you open with 2 big fancy words in a 6 word sandwhich that doesn't even make a complete sentence, i'm sure your professor will be fawning over this line.

You literally use alienated 3 times in a row in 3 different sentences.

>People feel alienated
next sentence
>People feel alienated

Dude are you kidding me? You really sat back and said "wow i'm a genious, let me go post that to the internet."

Jesus that's just structure. Don't get me started on content.

>Marx
Oooh boy, time for the 101 level political science class. Let's all get excited about imagining a world where we don't have to work for someone! Wouldn't that be great if we could just all make the same money because we all deserve to live in an egalatarian society where nobody takes advantage of anyone else? Wouldn't that just be peachy?

Come on kid, go masturbate, then sit down and rewrite your paper without a massive communist hard on and try not to alienate yourself from your intrinsically shit paper.

Let me grade it for you
>82%
>Repetetive
>Lofty words without conveying significant meaning
>Lack of critical evaluation of the subject matter

Enjoy your C
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>>710856441
>also thou marx wasn't critical enough of the state.

That's right, Marx criticised that state as being a tool to oppress the working class. He said that the state would wither away in a classless society because it would serve no purpose.
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>>710856337
This is the most interesting reply so far.

I probably agree with you. But what specifically about Fabian thinking results in most Labour MPs being internationalists? What do they preach in the Fabian Society?
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>>710856582
>Come on kid, go masturbate, then sit down and rewrite your paper without a massive communist hard on and try not to alienate yourself from your intrinsically shit paper.

This isn't a YLYL thread but I lost anyway
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>>710856582
go easy on him he's in high school not college
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>>710856628
A classless society is a farce though because even when economic and current political constraints are erased new groups are created simply through the inherent behavior humanity

Marxism is an interesting social fiction in what humanity would be like stripped of the animal in them, the survivalist competitive instinct.

The day Marxism thrives is a day long past the death of humanity or just in idealistic dreams of pimple faced 19 year olds in their first few years of university
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>>710856582
I used those words often because they are key terms in Marxist theory. I didn't use them to be a smartass, but because they were the best way to get my point across.

>People feel alienated
next sentence
>People feel alienated

This I acknowledge, but the essay's not a big enough deal to change the structure. I thought I'd just be straightforward about it, rather than unnecessarily eloquent which could mess up the understanding.

>Oooooh look at you, you open with 2 big fancy words in a 6 word sandwhich that doesn't even make a complete sentence, i'm sure your professor will be fawning over this line.

That wasn't even the beginning of the essay m8, the screenshot is about halfway through. It makes perfect sense in context.
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>>710856820
OP here, I lost too.
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>>710856995
Post the whole thing on a google doc or something. I'll make notes and improve it like 1000%. I'm bored as shit. Give me 30 minutes and i'll get you an A.
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>>710856965
>A classless society is a farce though because even when economic and current political constraints are erased new groups are created simply through the inherent behavior humanity

I agree.

Once again, I was only explaining Marx's theory.
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>>710857074
It'll get me an A anyway m8 ;)
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>>710855427
Like writing down some shit is more productive than actually creating something or getting money for one's work
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>>710857286
Then why haven't you done either faggot?
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>>710857082
>Once again, I was only explaining Marx's theory.
No. You were agreeing with it. Not explaining it.

If you were explaining it you would include lines like:

"Marx explains that..."
"Marx states..."
"According to Marx..."


Also. WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOUR SOURCES?

Quotations. You need Quotations, and annotations. If you paraphrase (which you didn't, clearly) you still need to have some kind of notation indicating where you got that idea.

I hope to god this is high shcool. This shit would get an F in any 101 level college course.

You have to actively use the source material in your writing. Literally none of your papers in college can be 100% your words. Failure to refer to the book/literature/work is an automatic F in any serious academic institution.
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>>710857351
I'm at work, I've already done my job today, and now I'm actually getting paid for watching /b/
U jelly?
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>>710857286
Hey man, just because some of us get to go to college and learn smart people stuff doesn't mean you blue collared assholes are any more superior becasue you "work with your hands for a living". Seriously. The kinds of people you're talking down to for "writing instead of being productive" are exactly the kinds of people telling you where to lay those bricks and dig those holes.
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>>710856722

The Fabians are gradualist internationalsts.

>Fabian socialists were in favour of reforming Britain's imperialist foreign policy as a conduit for internationalist reform, and were in favour of a capitalist welfare state modelled on the Bismarckian German model

Check out some of their imagery. Wolf in sheep's clothing and tortoise are two of their logos.
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>>710852772
1. I just got out of bed, because in the part of the world that matters, it's just 0620 hours.
2. I can wrote 1000 words in less than two hours. You aren't shit.
3. You must be a Eurocuck so you don't get to respond or to post ever again. This website is only for white Americans and the Japanese. Euro trash not welcome or tolerated. So gtfo my board you filthy fucking piece of euro shit. Go suck some muslim shitskin cock.
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>>710857495
I've attended college too, faggot. I don't get my hands dirty. I tap buttons and get paid. It's just I couldn't even think about writing essays or any other crap a "productive" thing. Most of what they learn and require you to learn/know is absolutely useless IRL.
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>>710857495
hahahahaha

Have fun being a barista
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>>710857410
>No. You were agreeing with it. Not explaining it.

If you were explaining it you would include lines like:

"Marx explains that..."
"Marx states..."
"According to Marx..."

Do I need to say 'Marx says' before every sentence? No, that's idiotic. I say it once and you should be not retarded enough to know that I'm talking about Marx.

>Also. WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOUR SOURCES?

I do not need to include references for a shitty homework task m8. I'm not American. We get our info from textbooks and memorise it. If this we a task where I was asked to make an evaluation rather than just explain it, I might use a source.

We use sources for important essays like coursework, but not for exams. Where would we even get our sources in a closed-book exam?

Oh yeah I forgot, the rest of the world has real exams, not your multiple choice bullshit.
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>>710857677
>Most of what they learn and require you to learn/know is absolutely useless IRL.
Obviously you studied business/marketing/communications.

Anyone who went for actual sciences, computer tech, or even the liberal studies like english/philosophy are far more useful to a person than just practical applications. If you only use what you learned in college to get you a job you didn't really learn anything then, did you? You just went to get a piece of paper so you could go to another place to get paid so you can pay for the piece of paper that let you work for the place that helps you pay for it.
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>>710852772
Back to your original question. I just woke up. Ive been reviewing my old organic chem stuff from colege. I kinda want to make a smal home lab and do some advanced work (advanced as i can safely, without poisoning myslf) i dont do drugs so dont assume i want to be a clandestine chemist.
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>>710857821

>muh 'expirence'
>muh 'fuller person'

You realise that 'fuller person' is code for indoctrinated right?

Why do you think students, especially in the UK, are almost exclusively SJW? Why do you think they demand 'safe spaces' from speakers that may challenge their worldview?
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>>710857751
>Do I need to say 'Marx says' before every sentence? No, that's idiotic. I say it once and you should be not retarded enough to know that I'm talking about Marx.

No, not every sentence, but fucking once would be nice. It shows that you have knowledge of his actual statements and his actual beliefs, not just a general "cliff-notes" summary of regurgitated bullshit that anyone who reads a wikipedia page on Marxism can tell you.

>I do not need to include references for a shitty homework task m8. I'm not American. We get our info from textbooks and memorise it. If this we a task where I was asked to make an evaluation rather than just explain it, I might use a source.
Lol. Even if you're not "required" to use the source and cite your material. You should.

>We use sources for important essays like coursework, but not for exams. Where would we even get our sources in a closed-book exam?
>Oh yeah I forgot, the rest of the world has real exams, not your multiple choice bullshit.

Hah. I had to write over 1000 pages throughout my school career. I'm damn good at writing research papers and even something small like a 1000 word essay would get the same level of attention to detail as a 40 page research paper.
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>>710857821
>Obviously you studied business/marketing/communications.
Obviously I studied electronics, telecommunications and biomedical engineering, and only the last thing was time-worthy. The rest, consisting of 3 and 1/2 year could be shrunk to a year or year and a half due to additional classes that were shit. Ie. I can do God's work in ASM and we had ASM coding for 3 semesters where I did basic shit like "after pushing the button 3 seconds pass and a text on LCD comes up". Actually 3 hours in a week wasted because of that.
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>>710852772
Hi anon. I wrote a draft for my college english class. 2000 words. Got the draft back. She said it was an excellent paper. Did some minor revisions. Will hand it in early.

Reason why I'm not as productive as you is because I already did my part you cunt.
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>>710858040
>You realise that 'fuller person' is code for indoctrinated right?


Scientia ipsa Potentia est
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>>710852772
Ew, Marxist theory, the most useless far-left kind there is.
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>>710852772
Also proof-read that, I spotted at least one grammatical mistake in the 2 or so seconds I had it enlarged.
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>>710857410
Thank you, I'm the guy he responded to there

Fucking retard comes on here after his mum puts him to bed and makes some braggard post.

Wtf oh you're explaining marxism to us? The nearly 200 year old farce of an ideology? Wow thanks it's such a wonder none of us ever heard of it and even if we did we would be incapable of understanding it without a teenager straining his lexicon to the point of physical discomfort.

Then he is offensively defensive left and right

Pfffew you believe this most likely

Bleh you were American I bet.

>No see I am a free thinker because this isn't my actual viewpoint I'm just explaining one to you among the many I am aware of because I'm so smart!

OPs logic in this thread is literally the same behind the trite 'i was only pretending to be retarded'
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>>710858221

You're welcome.
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>>710858040
>You realise that 'fuller person' is code for indoctrinated right?
We truly live in an era of unprescidented willful ignorance. Why read a book when you can watch Kanye and Taylor Swift argue on twitter? Why learn a new language when you can "do something productive".

I almost pity you, but you deserve to stay secluded in your small little world. You influence anyone, or be influenced by anyone. Exactly the way you want it.
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>>710858358
I wouldn't quite call Marxism a farce, its more like most modern reinterpretations of it are misguided nonsense. That aside, look at how many times this guy repeats the words "People feel alienated". He says that shit 3 times in a single small paragraph. Clearly doesn't know what the fuck he's on about.
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>>710858358
>Bleh you were American I bet.
Damn fucking right i'm an American. Our academic institutions are the pride of the world. I almost feel bad when I hear the stories of the school systems in Europe. You can basicaly drop out whenever you feel like it, teachers don't care, students who would otherwise excel are never challenged or told they can do great things, it's absolutely astounding that there's so little impetus or expectation to move up and get an education over there.
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>>710858494
I don't want to get to far sidetracked from shitting on OP because that is truly what this thread needs to be about.

But Marxism is clearly a joke. It is entirely dependent on the destruction of human instinct simply because it is detrimental in a society. It isn't a possibility. Marxism is basically only viable if you erase the animal instincts and nature from a person. Marxism is how a robot society could exist. Marxism couldn't even function in ant colonies
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>>710858585
Yea, no. You have several great institutions, all of which maintain high standards by excluding those who are financially disadvantaged, and the rest of your education system is complete trash. Even most of your colleges and universities are trash. Its easy to have a few great universities when the rest of them have no standards whatsoever.
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>>710858452

So you suggest that it isn't indoctrination? Then why are certain beliefs so prevalent among graduates and even more so among students? Why are certain other ideologies verboten? Whether the indoctrination is 'leftist' (anything from the social 'sciences' department), or neo-liberal (anything business), the tenets of your well rounded beliefs will be the same.
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>>710858585
Pride of the world. Yet a large part of US citizens cannot tell if EU is a country, where on the world map Koreas, Australia or Greece are. They believe landing on the moon was a hoax, their BMI is in 30's and they believe that USA is in the centre of the world, everythings revolving around it and people actually give a shit about one particular country just because people there think they're superior in every way.

tl;dr - you're proud of yourselves just like a retarded kid is, after winning paraolympics while the rest of the unhandicapped world looks at you with pity
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>>710858750
Right, Marxism as a social ideal is ludicrous, but my point is that Marxist economic theory is rooted in legitimate empirical and economic evidence.
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>>710852772

Literally-autistic marxist who believes all of humanity can follow a belief system made for soulless robots like himself.
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>>710858585

>You can basicaly drop out whenever you feel like it, teachers don't care,

Actually pretty fucking accurate. As long as you learn the social lessons school is meant to teach, they don't give a fuck. If you reject these social teachings, chances are you'll be expelled.

And yes I'm talking about fucking 'tolerance'. Why in the fuck should I in any sense tolerate a fucking moon-worshiping death cult, or should I respect FGM cause it#'s 'their way of life' This, OP is the type of indoctrination I'm talking about. And it only gets worse at uni.
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>>710852772
>mcafee
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Productive... right...probably b8, but this being /b/, you may have the delusion that ranting into darkness is productive....

Today I lead a team of 8 guys building one of the biggest projects our company's undertaken, a building-sized video screen. Nothing groundbreaking, but plenty of problems to solve, logistics n teamwork. Cut knuckles n sore thighs.

Something you can stand back from, crack a beer n say, 'Fuck yeah, we just built the *shit* outta that thing'

So /b/, what did you actually achieve today, aside from masturbating over politics?
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>>710858931
>Yet a large part of US citizens
There's your problem. The United States is a mixed bag.

You pick out 6 random Americans.

>2 have criminal records
>2 have bachelors degrees
>3 believe in evolution

So you basically have 4 retards for every 2 decent human beings. In the UK you probably have 4 chavs for ever 1 spoiled aristocrat.
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>>710852772
>essays
>useful
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>>710858938
>but my point is that Marxist economic theory is rooted in legitimate empirical and economic evidence.
No. Not evidence. Theory. Evidence proves Marxism fails like it did in Russia/USSR, Ukraine, East Germany, Grenada, Hungary, Mongolia, Romania, Poland.

Evidence proves Marxism fails since only 4 Marxist states remain.

Theory predicts in a "modernized economy" where the majority of careers are service based and not workforce based, there will be a successful outcome. But it hasn't been tested in any significantly advanced country. Only backward dog countries.
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>>710852772
>Marx was opposed to improving the living conditions of the working class

Bullshit. Utter bullshit.

Your whole essay is a fatuous caricature of Marxism and clearly based on hostile and/or ignorant secondary sources.

What did you read that was written by Karl Marx? Anything at all?
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>>710859314

Don't you feel exploited though? Surely that screen should be split into 8 so each of you can truly enjoy the fruits of your labour?
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>>710859340
2+2+3 = 6, yeah
dunno who are retards in this situation, bachelors or those who believe in creationism instead, because one doesn't contradict the other

and apart from that, chances that out of, let's say six people, you get 2 criminals, are normally pretty low, you'd have to have a society where every third person is a criminal (more or less, don't want to derail that by going into the probability calculus). That's a shitload.
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>Marx
>2016
>useful

h-heh
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>>710852772
>>710852772

1,000 words? Shit, I do that in a heated thread in about 5 minutes.
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>Marx

Move along, nothing to see here.
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>>710859774
this desu
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>>710852772
I did. I smoked a bowl and now i'm checking out /b/. I'm a trust fund brat. So that's a lot for me.
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>>710852772
>essay on Marx
>useful
Pick one.
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>>710859762
>2+2+3 = 6, yeah
=D You've made me so happy, hahaha I was waiting to see if anyone failed that simple math equation.

>2 of them have bachelors degrees
>2 of them have criminal records
>3 believe in evolution

You really think this is wrong =D hilarious. You're assuming that you can't have a degree AND a criminal record, or believe in AND have a degree. Wow that little example just made me so happy
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>>710859509
Again, Im not talking about a Marxist society, I'm talking about marxist economic theory. Theories are based on evidence, they're not hypotheses, they don't come out of thin air. Marxist economics is based on economic principles such as supply and demand. I'm not talking about Marxism as a method of statehood, we AGREE on that.
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>>710852772
Have to do that once every week in college so that I can live at home with my parents without having to get a job.

I envy NEETs
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>>710853514
Hunger games
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>>710852772

1) kek at all the idiots saying 'don't use western tech if you don't like capitalism'

2) Your essay is wrong on multiple points -- Marx never advocated for a vanguard to stir up revolutionary sentiments. He thought capitalism would necessarily progress/evolve into a classless society.
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>>710859999
Checked
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>>710859923

So what part of Marxist theory is objectivly correct and thus predictive? I mean I've seen people say that the falling rate of profit vindicates Marx, but the only people writing essays 'proving' the falling rate of profit are leftists. ie not impartial sources on Marx.
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>>710859999
QUADS OF TRUTH
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>>710859923
>I'm talking about marxist economic theory. Theories are based on evidence, they're not hypotheses, they don't come out of thin air.
Right, like the Theory of Gravity has evidence based on math and measurements and calculations. Here's the thing, you're referring to a economic system an economic system that has failed far more countries than it has benefitted. There's your evidence. Proposing that "in an ideal system" Marxism would be flawless isn't evidence, it's an ideal, it isn't practical and it doesn't prove anything.
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>>710859999

>'don't use western tech if you don't like capitalism'

Funny, I don't think anyone ITT said anything close to that til you came along.
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>>710859915
Let's say you have a point. In that case this is getting into the "who is worth more, a person with degree and a criminal record, a person who believes in evolution and has a criminal record or maybe somebody who believes in evolution and has a degree (in philosophy or other useless crap and as a person, is shit). I'm not gonna go down that way.
I'd prefer to say that you've clinged to a detail and lost the whole picture of discussion from sight, so there's no more point to talk.
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>>710860164


>>710853283
>implying you're not a capitalist
How about you move North Korea and write your essays there. No touching western inventions, though

Close enough.
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>>710860160
I didn't say the theory was correct either. The most successful country that utilises this system is China, because China also introduced Capitalist reforms under Deng Xiaoping and again now under Xie Jinping. Again we agree that Marxism is severely flawed. That said to say it is completely baseless would be a step too far.
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>>710860359

That's quite a leap son. I think you were just trying to be a smartass with your leftypol bingo shit and you done fucked up. But we can let it go now.
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>>710860477
ok thx
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>>710860102
Marxism simply applies economic material ideas such as supply and demand to a sociological context. Whether it is predictive is debatable, but it's probably better viewed as something descriptive of earlier periods if anything. It is well relatable to events such as the trans-Atlantic slave trade and the eventual rise of sociological pressures favouring abolition.
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>>710852772
>1k essay
>in 1 day
>useful
Bitch please i can churn out a 1000 words in an hour. Come back when you're hitting 10k in a day
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>>710859744
Exploited? Yeah, a bit, I know how much that sucker is set to earn beaming ads to ignorant plebs, how much it cost, n our profits from it. Leaves me a little butthurt n pretty disgusted ads make that much money.

But as a thing to achieve, working as a smooth team, beats the shit outta this circlejerk
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>>710860379
>That said to say it is completely baseless would be a step too far.
That's fair.
But it doesn't change the fact that the evidence supports the idea that Marxism does not work in any practical form. On paper, sure, the system works, but in practice it fails.

China is an utterly bad example anyway. Look around your room. How many of your posessions were made in China? That's the mark of capitalsim. You're right about the capitalist reforms, since the early 70's they've been working to adopt capitalism as fast as possible. Any large city in China is practically identical to a city in a capitalist country. So China isn't a pure communist state. It definitely doesn't make for a good argument FOR Marxist economics.
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>>710852772
i read and laugh my troubles away on this board
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>>710852772
You better cite that shit and then think about how much of it is total crap that would disagree with principles and morality of even the sanest man on Earth.

Your History and Sociology class is being paid to shove that garbage in your face. And you write it off as productive because few people in your class probably understand what Marx was truly trying to say, let alone yourself, obviously. You're like, the millionth kid to write in favor of Communism just for a percentage of a grade that measures your willingness to cooperate/or follow instruction marketed and sold as intelligence and potential.

There's no way you could possibly comprehend what Marx was trying to say having never lived in a Communist society.
But I'll sympathize with you. I've stayed up countless nights writing for college classes, especially at the last minute.
I could write 5 times that much in two hours, and in 30 minutes I could edit and revise into a master piece.
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>>710860703
>Marxism simply applies economic material ideas such as supply and demand to a sociological context. Whether it is predictive is debatable, but it's probably better viewed as something descriptive of earlier periods if anything. It is well relatable to events such as the trans-Atlantic slave trade and the eventual rise of sociological pressures favouring abolition.

What the fuck are you even saying?

Marxism isn't designed for earlier economic systems. That's an outright falsehood. Marxism is designed for service based, industrialised economies. The reason the USSR failed is because the state wasn't developed enough to reach the point where the means of production could be controlled and evenly distributed.

>"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
It's a wonderful idea and an excellent sounding proposal, but it's absolutely impossible to apply to a state that hasn't evolved to the point where the vast majority of jobs are relating to manufacture and not service.
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>>710860915
*masterpiece
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>>710860756
I absolutely agree. I think Marxist economics is inferior to capitalism, we agree fully on this. China's adoption of Capitalist reforms begins in the 70's as you said, but it truly takes off under Deng Xiaoping in the 80's, and it is at this point that China's economy begins to grow as rapidly as it does. If you read Hill Gates' 'China's Motor' there's an interesting section in there about how China's version of capitalism differed to Western Capitalism historically, wherein dynastic China expansionism wasn't achieved by production but rather by intensification of the agrarian labour force. Historically however, dynastic China's economy had always been capitalist, though in a sense slightly different to the West.
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>>710861010
>reach the point where the means of production could be controlled and evenly distributed.

This point does not exist. Going back to this guy

>>710860751

He feels ecploited because advertising will make millions of dollaroos of his labour. But his labour was just one small part of the picture. Somebody has to write these ads he speaks of. There has to be a product attached to them. The idea that workers owning the means of production being more efficient could only be true under a planned economy, and even then efficiency is debatable.

Wholesale worker owned means of production is not desirable.
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>>710861010
Yes, I'm aware of all that, I'm not defending Marxism as a long-term viable economic method, nor was I suggesting that Marxism was designed for earlier systems. I don't think I ever suggested that at all. That doesn't mean we can't apply Marxist theory to earlier systems anyway as a means of historical analysis.
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>>710860915
>You're like, the millionth kid to write in favor of Communism just for a percentage of a grade that measures your willingness to cooperate/or follow instruction marketed and sold as intelligence and potential.
Lol. I get that OP is a cringy high schooler who thinks he's some enlightened genious revolutionary, but you're being really cynnical about "instruction marketed and sold as intelligence and potential."

Yeah, sure he's basically being graded pass/fail, but that doesn't mean that his writing this paper was a waste of time and had no effect on his potential/writing skill/critical thinking.

Lighten up, any learning is good and you should probably knock off the paranoid sounding "they're just selling you lies to make you feel good" "the man's just making you think your smart" shit.

The knowledge is there. It's up to you to puruse it, and just because school systems spoon feed it to you doesn't mean they're making you swallow the red pill. Their goal is to create an atmosphere where knowledge can grow. It's not some elite think tank, it's a trough of education for the masses. It's good enough. You want real study and true education? Go to college.

Seriously your paranoia is so offputting.
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>>710860915
What an enormous faggot you seem to be
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>>710861073
Chinese communism has always been weird. My point remains that it's not the best example for a strictly Marxist economic system. Clearly you've studied it more in depth than I have but I understand enough to know that China is an anomally much the same way that Russia and the United States are. Large and powerful countries have such complex histories and government systems and economies that it's impossible to completely expalain them with one classification.
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>>710861243
>This point does not exist.
I kind of agree, I mean that's the leading theory in Marxist ideology, but I know what you mean, that's one of the reasons Communism fails. That point where the means of production can be controlled is mostly hypothetical. Yes you can control all the bread factories and decide when to make bread and when to stop making bread, but it's imperfect and impractical.
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>>710861583
We don't disagree about this. But I was actually talking about Chinese dynastic capitalism there, before the revolution of 1912 and the subsequent civil war period of the late 40's. Here in the West, capitalism meant increased production/supply and lead to a diversity of product. In China, and Asia more generally, Capitalism meant the intensification of labour to increase grain production and the like which in turn could be traded or sold to increase revenue. Mind you I study history, not economics, hence the reason I though I'd share this information about China's dynastic capitalist system.
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>>710861253
>That doesn't mean we can't apply Marxist theory to earlier systems anyway as a means of historical analysis.
Sure, lets apply Democracy to the Paleolithic era, who cares that Democracy didn't fucking exist then, that doesn't mean we cant apply Democratic theory to earlier systems as a means of historical analysis.

It's fucking pointless, thats why. Marxism didn't exist before it existed, so hypothesysing if it did is basically just pretending to get a handjob from Stephen Hawking. It's Inception levels of pointless.
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>>710861572
Shilling samefag
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>>710861863
Nah. Fuck off from me and my agreebro
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>>710861858
Thats the most retarded thing anyone has ever said. Marxist theory is an economic concept that centres around the distribution of resources, it isn't a political form of government you retard.
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>>710861858
Comparing governmental system to economic theory regarding the distribution of resources, you're a special one aren't you?
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>>710862195
No shit retard, i'm not comparing marxism to democracy. I'm comparing your hypothetical "let's go back before the concept existed and apply it to the situation in that time period because that's fucking useful"

No. It's fucking idiotic. You really think it's insightful to "pretend" to apply marxism to the trans atlantic fucking slave trade.

>>710862287
>>710862195
samefag.
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>>710861424

>You want real study and true education? Go to college.

kek.
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>>710860703
>It is well relatable to events such as the trans-Atlantic slave trade and the eventual rise of sociological pressures favouring abolition.
>>710862195
>>710862287
Samefag read what you said. Do you feel good about that line right there? Because it's close to the dumbest fucking thing i've ever read. If i wasn't 99% positive you're just a really ignorant troll trying to get a rise i'd actually suggest you get a psychologist to diagnose what kind of disability you have.
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>>710861424
>It's good enough. You want real study and true education? Go to college.

kek. Here we go again. The old 'if you've done college you're automatically smert'. No. Just no. It's indoctrination., They want you going so you can become a politically correct little shill for neo-liberalism, or an IDPol obsessed 'nuleftist'.
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>>710861243
I should probably state a number of our guys are shareholders in our company. As customers, we are happy to build whatever equipment companys/govts/megacorps will pay us for. We work well, n efficiently, we each do well from it. It's socialism in action.

None of this armchair general stuff.

The profit margins on advertising is disgusting tho. Buy a thing cos its a good thing and you need it. Not cos ur told to by the perceived hive Mind.

I'll happily sell you a bawlin screen tho, cos it is an awesome product I'm proud to have made. N the cream is nice ^.^
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>>710862372
So applying evolution to the transition between fish and land animals, apes and humans, that's not useful? Yea, you're still a fucking idiot.
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>>710862372
Yes, that was me posting twice, I was that astounded by your idiocy.
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I STUDY CIVIL ENGINEERING AT COLLEGE IM BEING INDOCTRINATED
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>1000 words
What, you spent like an hour or so? Big whoop.
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>>710861908
So there's two of you?
Are you also the ones starting and bumping these, 'what happen to /b/' threads?
Gtfo of here. I didn't even read your response.
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>>710862900
gay britfags thinking they're funny
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>>710852772
Such entry level judeobolshevism. Three sentances start with 'people'.
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OP writes an essay three months ago, still gloating.
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>>710862640
Evolution existed before the theory of evolution did.

Marxism didn't exist before the theory of Marxism did.

You're so fucking retarded you need to go see a doctor.
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>>710852772
>Sup /b/ I just wrote a 1000 word essay, why haven't you done anything useful today like me?

1000 words? What is this, a highschool paper?

I'm probably going to write at least 2000 words today just in emails, and then do my actual work too.
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>>710862639

>The profit margins on advertising is disgusting tho

I agree. I also think it's a massive con. Maybe my rain is just defective but advertising has zero effect on me. I fail to see how anyone can see X on TV and think 'gotta get me one of those'.

>I should probably state a number of our guys are shareholders in our company.

This sounds like a good setup. But self-proclaimed socialists will tell you you're still being exploited, and they expect you to join their merry band as a result. If you don't, you're a wage-cuck/class-cuck. My point. Many socialists don't give two shits about the working class. They want power for themselves. So even though some leftist (classical leftist) ideas have merit, most people who describe themselves as active socialists have a hidden agenda.
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>>710863142
Marxism is a theory regarding the distribution of resources, just as evolution is a theory of the diversity of life. The distribution of resources existed before Marxist theory did. You're so fucking retarded you're beyond help.
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>>710862729

DO YOU HAVE TO DO MODULES ON PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT? THEN YES.

though hard sciences and engineering aren't so bad as its hard to slip much agenda pish in between all the maths and formulae.
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Anyone ITT suggesting College education doesn't make you smarter, you're correct. It isn't some magical place where they feed you IQ pills. It depends on what you study.

90% of the people I know who studied business didn't become smarter after they finished college, they just knew more about business.

>Knowledge and Intelligence are two different things
>Knowledge is your hard drive
>Intelligence is your processor/RAM

You can fill up your empty hard drive with 1TB of "Business" but that doesn't make your computer run faster. But if you go from 2 Gigabytes of RAM to 32 Gigabytes, or from 2.4ghz to 3.2ghz, your computer actually processes information smoother and faster.
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Write an essay about 4chan, like it was serious shit or something like that
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>>710863307
>The distribution of resources existed before Marxist theory did.
Holy shit the straw men are everywhere. You're like the poster child of logical fallacy, are you just visiting from Pol or are you a resident /b/tard?

I wish you actually weren't a troll, because it would be fucking hilarious if there was a real person who actually thought they were making good arguments.
This sentence makes me lol so hard
>It is well relatable to events such as the trans-Atlantic slave trade and the eventual rise of sociological pressures favouring abolition.
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>>710863403
I... i i get it? so what do you study to make you smarter then? Art history? Femminist studies?
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Thats some old ass 2007 word. I can give you the 2016 if you want it.
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>>710852772
Holy fuck I just noticed the title.

>Why did Marx think that revolution was inevitable.

L fucking O fucking L

Hey kiddo, that's gonna lose you a point.

>Why Marx THOUGHT that revolution was inevitable.

Your verb tense is just awful.
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>>710863624
Nice lack of an actual substantive response there.

Evolution denotes a process. Marxist economic theory denotes a process. Both processes existed before their respective theories, therefore both are relatable to the past. You're a fucking retard. Either you are conflating Marxist theory with Marxist prediction, or you are conflating it with communism, or you just don't know what Marxist theory actually entails period. Regardless of which of these 3 categories you fall under, you are a fucking idiot.
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>>710863916
Probably the prompt for the essay.
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>>710864004
I fucking hope so haha
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>>710863973
>Evolution denotes a process. Marxist economic theory denotes a process. Both processes existed before their respective theories, therefore both are relatable to the past.
>Both processes existed before their respective theories
>existed before their theories
>Both processes
>before their theories

Evolution existed before the theory of evolution.

Marxism did not exist before Karl Marx.

Do you still not get this?
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>>710864247
Ok, clearly you just don't understand what Marxist theory is. Marxism is a model used to describe the distribution of resources retard. Resource distribution has always existed.
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worse essay i ever seen
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>>710863711

There is no study taht can make you smarter. Your smarts are already decided. The rest is a question of effort. The idea too that college 'broadens your horizons' is bullshit too. College stuffs degeneracy down your throat and won't allow you to call it shit with a mouth full of it. In college you are free to identify as an Appache attack helicopter and nobody can call you on it. The really distressing part is that this shit is leeching into the workplace.
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>>710852772
>marx
нет
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>>710863269
Yeah, I don't get it either. You try n 'sell' me something, I immediately shy away. If I want something, I'll look around for it.

It does in a fashion work. Started the previous owner wanted out, but no one could afford to buy. So it was split. A few bought in. Now, if capital needs raising, quiet word goes out to those deemed... Worthy, team players. Cut them in. Else/surplus, there's always Banks. It does do wonders for morale, n the dividends arnt pitiful. Much more satisfying than putting ur dosh on the stock exchange, knowing you have a say in the outcome of ur investment.

I'm no hardcore Politico, but it works for me. N it is pretty cool explaining a few of the company 'secrets' to an apprentice, n seeing opportunity bloom in their eye.

Were just here to work, might as well be a team. And it is nice to be able to tell your boss, and the director to his face 'this is fucked, and this is why' and be thanked for your input, not fired for it.
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>>710865314

>Yeah, I don't get it either. You try n 'sell' me something, I immediately shy away. If I want something, I'll look around for it.

I'm sure it's more effective on cunt, fucking consumerist pigs they are.
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>>710864577
>Marxism is a model used to describe the distribution of resources retard. Resource distribution has always existed.
No. Marxism is an economic system that describes a government (the people) controlling the means of production so that everyone gets a fair share as decided by the government (the people).

Marxism did not exist before Marx. Marx invented the ideology, people said hey, that sounds like a good idea, and they enacted Marxist economic systems and established Communist governments.

>He wasn't describing a process that already existed
>He created an entirely new way of controlling an economy and redistributing resources and wealth within a state.

This isn't Chicken or Egg bullshit this is simple it wasn't there, then someone created it.
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>>710853432
If you buy a pizza, are you exploited?
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>>710864772
Coming from someone whose never been to college haha.

Yeah, that exists, yeah it's probably more prevalent on college campuses than it is in other places. Is that 90% of what's going on? No. That's probably .1% of what actually goes on at a College campus. Most of what happens is:

>School
>Sex
>Drugs
>Alcohol
>Parties
>Sports

If there was a pie chart, those six things would be the chart. Safe space micro aggression trigger transgender wolfkin otherkin femminists are the .1%. And guess what, the college kids hate them too, they just tolerate it because they're too busy enjoying the other, more interesting 6 things going on.

You don't even know, I'm betting you get all this stuff off the internet/news/tumblr. You're not getting any primary source information here. If you go to a college, you wont see any of that "i identify as an apache helicopter" shit. Because those weird people are in their rooms on their computers blogging and tumblring about it and that's more invasive to your world than it is to the world of college students.

>went through 4 years, didn't hear a single person use the words "triggered" "microaggression" "I Identify as..." "my preferred pronoun is"

Didn't hear any of that bullshit.
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>>710866147
Bro give it up, that retarded guy just wont see it he thinks that marx was defining something not creating something. he's totally fucing wrong
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>>710859314
As a side note, If I was a hobo, one of the ''little" signs is a 4 Lane freeway VMS. Plenty enough room inside to lie down in. Warm to, with all that electronics. Or in hot places, they come with a/c. 240v Power. Better than a hotel in Japan. Just don't fuck with the electronics, there's error detection. And piss on the cars, not in the sign.

Peace ;-)
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Self-centered and alienated from the group, but also alienated from your self? How can be ?
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>>710854032
hey you fuck
that's my school
biochem junior here
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>>710857751
>don't need to include my sources for a shitty homework assignment

Yes you do. As much as I hate living among intillectual elitists, that's how writing for academia works. Their world, their rules. Don't get a bad mark. Use in-text citations...
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