>Someone please tell me how people become this stupid.
The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
>Someone please tell me how people become this stupid.
Live in a state that lost a war against the united states
>>710833494
Who are you quoting?
God exists and he hates us
>>710833494
that's how people become that stupid
we should raid that fb lowkey>>710833494
There is no feasible way that our government can take away the weapons people already possess. It would be a logistical nightmare. Not to meantion, the agencies that would have to execute the order, have many gun owners amongst them.
A few years ago i saw an article that stated that Texas , by itself, has enough registered firearms to arm every household in the US.
It would be a nightmare.
>>710833494
You run a shitty clickbait blog that posts fake shit, run those blogs on FB, and prey on dumb people who just read the headlines.
>>710835189
like a child who lost its toy. americans cry. pathetic.
>>710835877
Huh?
>>710833494
I'm a trump supporter and usually i would leave this shit alone. but this blatant misquoting that's going on these days is really retarded.
I guarantee there was more to what she said there.
>>710836658
If I recall she was very awkward about the constitutional right to bare arms, using prefacing it with if.
>>710833494
Years of brainwashing?
>>710836658
Dont get mad about ANYTHING that the right tries to do to get elected.
All you have to do, is realize that if Hillary was king, she would have every right-leaning person in this country beheaded.
We don't even have a right-leaning leader who thinks of such things, so enjoy the voting ruse for the idiot left.
Found an article on the interview the OP is depicting
https://www.nraila.org/articles/20160610/clinton-refuses-to-say-second-amendment-protects-individual-right
>>710836308
10/10
>>710837559
>beheaded
not #her style
wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/16/1643150_re-analytical-and-intelligence-comments-polish-plane-crash-.html
>>710837559
sounds like heaven. redneck genocide.
If you don't like Hillary why did you run Donald Trump against her?
It's like you fucking wanted her elected.
Leaving no viable option like that.
I love listening to children talk about politics
>>710835877
You sound like a beaten dog of a man, where is your owner? I wish to speak with him about your behavior.
>>710839360
Clinton had the primaries rigged in her favor courtesy of the DNC, she has spoken about rigging elections of other nations in the past, she was going to get elected no matter what.
You have a right to bear arms as a collective, not an individual. That means your guns don't need to belong to you.
>>710839768
You didnt answer the question
>>710839768
This
>>710839360
You're assuming the group of people who dislike Hillary and the group of people who nominated Trump are the same. They are not.
>>710840183
Europoor here.
I always read the 2nd as the right of a nation to have a standing army, not as an individual right to own guns.
Any Ameritards share this view?
>>710840183
We have the individual right to bear arms, because private ownership of arms is the last defense against a failed government.
We also have a personal right to own and bear arms because we have an inherent right to self defense, and it is not the duty of the police to protect us.
>>710840219
You are a fucking cuck, the democratic nomination gets stolen by the numbers and you do liberals do zip
>oh we will hold her feet the the fire until the next election
kek
>>710835877
Oh shut the fuck up, idiot. You can't just dismiss the arguments made in favor of owning a gun. And if it's a problem for people they should certainly be allowed to speak out. We have another thing in our Bill of Rights about that one- although it's also woefully under-enforced.
>>710840423
wrong, its literally worded for the individual PEOPLE to be able to bear arms so that they may rise against their government and protect themselves should they need to. its basically saying "we revolted against britain, and heres our own law that makes what we did perfectly legal for future generations to do the same if they need to."
>>710840423
No, the 2nd is, was and always will be the right for civilians to own weapons in order to maintain control over tyranny.
>>710833494
you could change the words in that picture to "niggers tongue my anus" but that doesnt mean she actually said it or that the statement is in context.
>>710840472
>le triggered
Again: why run an idiot against her and not someone who actually has any capabillities?
>>710835877
A sound liberal argument. No substance besides personal attacks. You forgot to mention how you are morally superior and have a better education level.
>>710840472
>Democracy
>Democratic
Do you think these two words might be related in some way? fucking spoopy
>>710833494
Her plan is to allow gun companies to be sued everytime their products are used. Lawyers will end gun manufacturing for the public. But if someone committs murder by running someone else over with their car, you can't sue Ford or GM. Fucking stupid and illogical, but that's their plan, they've said so themselves.
>>710833494
Looks like propaganda to me. She wouldn't be so dumb as to say something so stupid as close to the finish line as we are now. Plus even if she does win she won't do anything. Bill did and it cost him his productivity for the rest of his term in office.
>>710840599
But that isnt the actual text now, is it?
>>710835189
Not really. Just impose heavy fines on registered gun owners until they willingly hand over the guns. Won't stop the illegal firearms, but then law enforcement agencies could easily crack down on that just like they do with drugs and drug trafficking.
>>710833494
I know, right?
How could someone actually so stupid to believe a website called "thePatriotNation.net" is actually a legitimate source of information that will paint an accurate picture of Hillary Clinton's positions on gun control.
>>710840472
Please, explain in english instead of running to the word cuck, you're just adding fuel to the fire of this shitty election.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
english translation: you can have a gun, but government can regulate you if you chose to.
At the very least Hilliary's security clearances should of been stripped.
The corruption in America is so infected it terminal.
>>710840799
You forgot to spew the word cuck everywhere.
>>710840780
sorry I am Dutch national, didn't vote for anyone but we hold fair elections which is all that matter
how can you live with yourself supporting a crooked bitch
>>710833494
>thepatriotnation.net
that's how
>>710833494
to be fair, that's correct. The constitution defends the right for the people to organise into armed militias for civil defence, not private firearm ownership. Something more akin to "guns are legal but only for neighbourhood watch members and they are to be stored in the neighbourhood watch headquarters" rather than "anyone is allowed any gun for any reason other than crime"
>>710840357
>the people who nominated Trump don't dislike Hillary
I have never heard a more wrong statement in my entire time on 4chan.
>>710841250
the other guy is an oligarch controlled by putin. or fill in some other bs
>>710836308
>why run a legitimate candidate or a respectable campaign when you can just LIE AND CHEAT
and yet, you still lose
you will NEVER pose a threat to the government no matter how many guns you own. nobody cares about your stockpile, if they wanted you to go away they'd erase you. you're on lists just in case they need to look you up but don't think for a second you could have a violent uprising of any significance whatsoever
The government cant stop guns , we make them out of of metal + plastic paper weights. No serial #'s and the postman sends hem directly to your door.
Kits + Jigs are all over the net...
https://www.stealtharms.net/
Youtube 80℅ lower recivers :
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=80%E2%84%85+lower+recivers&spfreload=10
>>710837826
that's a good way to piss off redneck gun owners who think they should be able to own guns without restrictions because it's not like America has a gun problem or something.
>>710841355
>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
How are those chromosomes treating you?
>>710841290
Huh. Someone who's read the actual amendment. On /b/.
>>710841250
You fell for the trump propaganda? Lmao what a fucking idiot. Stay out of these threads foreigner you know nothing.
>>710841527
The government is not a single entity and the military will overwhelmingly side with the people if HRC/Obama try to overthrow the FBI chief or whatever stupid shit they have planned
>>710842211
I can't even begin to follow whatever train of thought you were on here
the members of our military will do what they are told and they will feel justified no matter what the action is
>>710841290
This. The idea that the Constitution grants individuals the right to personally own firearms in the United States is the result of a massive joint lobbying campaign by the NRA and gun manufacturers, particularly since the 1980's, to increase membership and gun sales respectively.
These are facts, regardless of what your political affiliation is. The only difference between a liberal and conservative when it comes to these facts is that a liberal is able to accept reality, whereas a conservative is not willing to admit that he's been manipulated by incredibly rich people who pretend to represent his values while quietly disenfranchising them even further.
>>710842917
I haven't been manipulated by anyone. I love my guns, for hunting, recreation and protection. Fuck off child, guns are for real men.
>>710842559
they literally spend years teaching them to follow orders unquestioningly upon fear of death. They're taught that if they dont do what they're told they're risking terrible consequences because their superiors have more information about what's going on, far more than you can know in the field, and have their best interests at heart. If they get told to open fire into a crowd of civilians because it will cause those civilians to disperse instead of rioting, saving hundreds of lives at the cost of a dozen they'll do it and feel justified doing it. Their superiors will feel justified doing it too, for the same reasons. Politicians are great at lying and they'll lie in just the right way to get what they want done whilst filling the people doing it with total confidence in what they're doing.
>>710840469
But we don't, really. The Constitution says we have a right to have weapons as a group, but it says nothing about people having machine guns on their houses
>>710842917
>LEGALIZE IT, MAAAAN. Weed is only illegal because of the hemp molopoly!: the post
>>710843038
I never said you didn't love them. I said the Constitution doesn't grant you the right to own one for personal use. If you still don't understand this, read the previous post again more slowly, and without reading your own biased agenda into it. Repeat again if necessary until it begins to sink in.
>>710843038
if you think holding something long, hard and black that shoots hot loads makes you a real man then that's your business.
>>710843250
>hemp molopoly!
kek
>>710837559
Damn dude, Hillary seems pretty cool
SHALL
>>710843461
NOT
>>710843320
>>710843485
wat
>>710843509
INFRINGED
>>710843106
this
don't underestimate how good our masters are at using the tools at their disposal. if they wanted to stop a violent uprising of crazy rednecks mad about some sort of gun control policy they would.
>>710835877
Your post didn't even make any fucking sense.
He didn't advocate for guns one way or the other; he merely remarked how it would be hard to get ALL of them since there are like 300M fucking guns in the country.
I'm sorry you're a Swedish cuckhold with no guns who does it for free.
>>710841049
Oops. I lost them all in a boating accident :^)
>>710843284
Cool bro where did you go to law school
>>710843540
>got infringed upon by Batman
kek
Batman don't fuck with guns
>>710841094
Translation:
The nation has the right to organize and maintain army, for this end its people need guns
At that time (18th century) the right to keep an army was a big deal. individual gun rights were not.
The only reason we still have the 2nd amendment is because of niggers, I guarantee if it weren't for the extremely high number of burglaries and home invasions and robberies due to blacks, we wouldn't have as many gun rights as we do now.
>>710843461
>>710843485
>>710843540
>SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
...are exactly the same people who say...
>IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT GO HOME IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT GO HOME IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT GO HOME IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT GO HOME
>>710839650
Kek
>>710833494
Because fact-checking takes longer than 5 seconds and confirmation bias exists.
>>710837559
>scared and stupid
Hillary is a moderate endorsed by leadership of both parties.
You can stop pissing your pants, you coward.
>>710841049
And how is drug trafficking doing? Last I heard it was fantastic, since making drugs illegal makes their job all the more rewarding.
>>710835189
Do what Australia did. It's pretty simple, don't look for them.
Set a date certain weapons become illegal with a nationwide buy back scheme. After that date anyone who is caught with those weapons gets jail time.
Most law abiding citizens will hand them in.
>>710843199
Shut the FUCK up faggot
>>710843760
Wrong.
Constitutional lawyers have already said that it also included self-defense concerns, so fuck yourself, you ignorant twat, because they're professionals who judge the intent of the words for a living.
But you wouldn't know that, would ya?
>>710841094
>It's a foreigner doesn't understand sentence structure episode
Allow me to explain beaner in terms you can understand.
Lunch, a meal necessary to any good day, the rights of the beaners to keep and consume tacos shall not be infringed?
Lunch has the rights?
No, beaners do.
Also, the militia act of 1903 defines the militia as all able bodied males ages 17-39
The 14th amendment extends this to women and all ages.
Also, "regulated" meant "in good working order" in those times. Consult Oxford for further instructions.
Lastly, you can look at previous drafts of the constitution along with the thoughts of the founding fathers to see what their intentions where.
In short, you're a pedantic faggot who is attempting to undercut freedom by arguing semantics. You are in fact a gigantic kike.
Kill yourself.
>>710840183
Liberal non-gun-owner here. You don't have a right to bear arms. The bill of rights delimits the powers of government. The government has no right to prevent you from bearing arms if you so choose. That's called "freedom".
>>710843903
chill bro
>>710843903
Fite me
>>710841049
Yeah so hard to get drugs right?
>>710843714
>Batman don't fuck with guns
Really?
>>710840469
Yet despite bitching and moaning and all the "muh guns" idiots threats they are never used against the govt.
And compared to murders they are rarely used in self defence.
>>710843990
No
>>710844006
Ok let's do it fukr
>>710843895
>Do what Australia did
Which, 10 years later, people have concluded did absolutely nothing to reduce crime
Why copy that exactly?
>>710841049
>law enforcement agencies could easily crack down on that just like they do with drugs and drug trafficking
>like they do with drugs and drug trafficking
and please tell me how that's working out
even then, where are they suppose to start?
drugs are bad enough and only a small minority of the population uses drugs
there are significantly more people with guns than people who use drugs
are they suppose to just go knocking on doors at random?
>>710843710
I didn't, but I learned reading and rudimentary analytical skills sometime around kindergarten, and these are really the only abilities required to understand what the Second Amendment actually says.
>>710840423
Can you read English you fuck
>>710843982
>You don't have the right to own guns, but you do have the right to own guns. That's called "freedom".
Thats how I read your post...
>>710844056
well, most of the time
the delicious irony is hard to resist, always has been
>>710841049
A lot of states you don't even have to register guns when you buy them.
>>710841003
That actual text very plainly states that individuals have the right to arms, so it does not support the nonsensical notion above
>>710843199
>>710843990
the US supreme court ruled that it actually does refer to personal firearm ownership for self defense, so no.
Also; would you feel better if we had paramilitary organizations legally preparing to destroy the government, or citizens practicing their right to defend themselves from criminals?
>>710843895
>gun violence down
>stabbings up
>people can't defend themselves from stabbings now
Whoops.
>>710844214
Rightfully so
As a canuckfag, our registration system is an absolute fucking joke that does nothing to prevent crime, but is a huge, expensive pain in the ass
>>710843982
There's 2 kinds of liberals.
Those who understand the constitution and what it meant and still means.
And those who think gender is non-binary social construct and all white males are evil satans.
>>710844273
til Knives become "Assault Weapons"
>>710833494
First, Strawman. That's not what she fucking said.
Second, what she said was 100% correct.
I'm not a Hillary supporter. I voted for Jill Stein already in early voting.
>>710844105
It reduced gun murders per population and also basically stopped mass shootings (depending on the definition).
I dont even fucking live there. I really dont care what nutjob you elect.
Atleast he/she wont be as fucking dumb as Bush was
>>710843923
Judges do that, not lawyers.
The point is not if it should be included but if it was in (the intent of) the original text. It was not. it couldnt be becsuse the guys who wrote it didnt give a fuck because owning a gun was like owning a pair of shoes. Not something you need to protect by law.
>>710844159
>>710844273
People could never defend themselves from stabbings. We never had open or concealed carry like the US.
>>710843982
why are you a liberal and why don't you own a gun?
admitting, I don't own a gun either but that's because I'm a poorfag and I would love to own one
what don't you like about guns and what do you like about liberalism?
>>710841688
You are right it doesn't thank you for the valuable addition to the discussion. Any sane person should have a gun no exceptions.
>>710844345
But it didn't
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/buyback-has-no-effect-on-murder-rate/2006/10/23/1161455665717.html
The same thing happened here in Canada: after retarded laws were passed in the mid-90s, people tried to claim that murder rates which were already declining were due to gun control laws that make no sense
>>710841290
>gun ownership is only a collective right
Have you ever read U.S. v Miller? In 1934 the SC implicitly recognized that individuals had the right to own the same guns as the military. Before that, it was common knowledge.
That understanding went fuzzy in our collective consciousness during the 1960s until it was reaffirmed in the Heller decision.
The 2A, just like all of the Bill of Rights, defines individual rights, not collective ones.
>>710844273
stabbings are not fatal the vast majority of the time
guns are way more dangerous than knives, you just shut yourself in the foot with that one.
>>710844192
That might be due to you lacking in reading comprehension skills. I'm fairly certain that poster was implying that the Bill of Rights doesn't actually grant you rights, those rights are assumed to be natural, what it does is enumerate that the government can not specifically infringe on said rights.
>>710844192
The point is that it's not a "right" granted by government, it's an unalienable right which all free people have intrinsically. The 2nd is an attempt to prevent government from even getting the silly idea that they might be the ones granting the rights.
>>710844483
We have millions more people, and a large population of immigrants from war torn countries and the number of MURDERS ie not all gun related are very similar.
>>710841218
>You have to tell a cuck what he is.
I suppose it makes sense.
>>710839768
Did she just, like, forget to rig the primary in 2008?
We support humans who will believe whatever feeds their own agenda.
Sincerely,
The Evil Chickens
>>710841290
word-for-word, nigger.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
quoted directly from the 2nd amendment.
go fuck yourself, retard.
>>710844200
I can see Ben Affleck doing this
>>710844550
>stabbings are not fatal the vast majority of the time
>source: my ass
>guns are way more dangerous than knives, you just shut yourself in the foot with that one.
>I'm a giant emu fucking cucklord who would rather have an innocent get stabbed than a criminal shot dead, because all life is sacred xd :^)
That's literally the argument of antigun.
GUN DEATHS ARE DOWN GUYS
>yeah, but violent crime has gone up and overall deaths are exactly the same
LMAO WHO CARES IF THEY DIED, IT WASN'T FROM GUNS
>>710844310
Indeed, and the SJW's make all of us liberals look bad.
Just like there's two kinds of conservatives: those who believe in free market capitalism, limited federal government oversight, and the necessity to defend America against a dangerous world.
...and then there are die-hard Trump supporters.
>>710835189
Reminder: After Hurricane Katrina, the National Guard assisted police in going door to door in New Orleans to confiscate firearms.
After the Boston bombing, the National Guard assisted the police in going door to door with unwarranted searches.
>>710844310
what about the kind that doesn't want to "take your guns", has a good enough understanding of what gender identity is to be embarrassed by your elementary one, and just cringes any time white fragility rears its chicken tendie loving head
>>710844767
>so angry
crime stays the same but deaths actually go down, you're wrong
>>710844139
>condescending and snarky remarks
>didn't actually go to law school
>has no law background only opinions
Please refer to previous arguments mentioning the historical meaning of the term "well-regulated" and the supreme court's decisions on the second amendment. I think the Supreme Court might know more than you, smart guy
>>710844848
>no source
Not an argument.
>>710840219
His point is Jesus Christ himself could be running against Hillary and she would still rig the shit out of the election
>>710844848
Whoops
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2974487/posts
>>710844799
>claims they're not stupid like SJWs
>in the very next sentence implies that there are no Trump supporters who believe in free market capitalism and limited federal government oversight
OOOKKKKK
>>710844744
>>710844969
You could say
>he would get crucified
>>710844458
I'm a liberal (with an enlightened dose of libertarian leaning) because the conservatives have gone fucking batshit, and are conservative in name only these days. There are certain parts of civic life which really do need collective action (common defense, a good road/education/police/healthcare system) and which the republicans have screwed up at every turn with misguided laissez-faire religion. Its like they never heard of negative feedback loops.
I personally like guns and have used them in the past, but currently I live in a safe enough neighborhood that the only thing owning a gun would do is get one of my kids shot accidentally.
>>710844969
>I didn't seem to have a problem with her, and my middle name is hussein and i'm black
>>710844822
>>710844965
same can be said of every other post
why are you even here?
>>710844864
You don't need to be a marine biologist to know that water is wet.
>>710845236
>He said as he ignored >>710845085
>>710844799
>I like to destroy a nation by importing tons of slave work but I refuse to acknowledge they bring more harm than good
>I'm also a good little cuck to the corporate elite
KYS
>>710844864
You know absolutely NOTHING if you are going to seriously claim the Supreme Court has functioned, as originally intended, since the 1900s.
The Federal Reserve, the IRS, the FDA, the bail outs, George Bush's fake war, Obama's continuance of a war now going on 15 years old, Bernie Sanders' outright and blatant electoral vote being stolen and the JD not being compelled by Congress by the SC to ensure EQUAL justice be applied...
You are seriously fucking delusional if you're going to sit here and seriously claim the Supreme Court is anything. Especially when the USA polls approval of Congress at the lowest since it was first established.
>>710845215
Yeah, REPUBLICANS fucked up healthcare...
"If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health plan."
1.3 MILLION PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY LOST OBAMACARE THIS YEAR, 2.5 MILLION PEOPLE ARE PROJECTED TO LOSE OBAMACARE NEXT YEAR.
90%+ WILL SEE AN INCREASE IN INSURANCE PREMIUMS BETWEEN 50-150%
Many states only have ONE insurance company to choose from in the "open market" where they were supposed to have MORE choices.
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/obamacare-is-failing-exactly-the-way-critics-said-it-would/
I'll wait for you to give us one example of republicans fucking up healthcare even a FRACTION as bad as Obama has.
>>710844969
>Jesus Christ running as a politician
I can't tell if you're a Christian or not, either way that's pretty fucking stupid
>>710841049
>thinking you can destroy The Second Amendment that was created when the country was founded
might aswell try to take thier freedom while your at it
>>710844139
In a 5-4 decision, the Court, meticulously detailing the history and tradition of the Second Amendment at the time of the Constitutional Convention, proclaimed that the Second Amendment established an individual right for U.S. citizens to possess firearms and struck down the D.C. handgun ban as violative of that right. The majority carved out Miller as an exception to the general rule that Americans may possess firearms, claiming that law-abiding citizens cannot use sawed-off shotguns for any law-abiding purpose. Similarly, the Court in its dicta found regulations of similar weaponry that cannot be used for law-abiding purposes as laws that would not implicate the Second Amendment. Further, the Court suggested that the United States Constitution would not disallow regulations prohibiting criminals and the mentally ill from firearm possession.
t. people who actually know what they're talking about
>>710833494
Guys /pol/ is currently going into overdrive with conspiracy theories and trolling plans
>>710845462
If Jesus Christ ran for president he would win in a fucking landslide fuck off Jew
>>710845357
>a long list of uncontrolled data not directly related to what I was saying or interpreted in any way in the post
nope
>>710845273
"Of course it means what I think it means and what I want it to mean because I'm a smart guy and that's that"
>>710845093
Actually what I meant to say is that there are plenty of intelligent, rational conservatives out there... but none of them support Trump because they're.... you know.... intelligent and rational, and Trump is the full-grown human embodiment a loud beer fart.
>>710845215
>I live in a safe neighborhood so owning a gun would just mean an accident with my kids
Liberal retardation at it's peak.
Living in some ivory tower and thinking everyone is in the same situation as them.
>There's really no need for guns because I don't need a gun right now
Unfortunately everyone doesn't live in a gated community or some super safe place, your statement just shows how out of touch with reality you are. But we already knew that with the first words of your argument.
"I am a liberal...."
>>710845216
And Obama turned out to be a corrupt socialist politician that was full of shit and fixed fuck all, so why would the DNC rig the primary against him?
>>710845538
>missing the point
Jesus Christ wouldn't run for President you dumbass
>>710845583
Or maybe they're forced to support Trump as a result of there being no better choice
I don't like Trump, but were I American he'd sure as fuck have my vote
>>710845583
Now you're implying that no rational conservatives support Trump.
You're digging yourself a deeper hole.
What specifically about his policies is irrational to you? I'd love to talk about it if you're up for an adult discussion.
>he's a loud beer fart
...oh well, I see you're not interested in adult discussion afterall.
>>710845538
>tfw Jesus is a jew
>>710845215
> republicans have screwed up
>police
>can't do their jobs because Hussein Obongo and the media race bait every chance they get
>education
>what is common core
Yeah the republicans did that one too guys
>Healthcare
You're shitting me right? ACA is about to implode and you're calling republicans on that one? Get fucked. My rates tripped for no fucking reason. Oh right, the reason was to pay so Tyrone can get healthcare for his gunshot wounds.
Healthcare savings accounts and getting rid of state lines would be so much better.
Oh right, which candidate is doing that again?
t. Pharmacist
>>710845660
You'd be echoing that same propaganda no matter which Democrat wins or what they'd do. You have no credibility, nobody is listening to you any more.
>>710845573
2 plus 2 doesn't equal 5 no matter how much you want it to.
>>710844083
You don't even have any numbers for self defense, do you?
>>710845670
Jesus is already the president of heaven anyways lol
>>710845670
Why because you fucking Jews would kill him again? He would fix this country so fast. But you love the establishment so of course you don't want the lord savior to run for office
>>710845583
Even Zuckerberg admitted there are legitimate reasons to support trump.
You're far up your own ass in your little bubble. God, I can't wait until tomorrow.
>>710833566
underrated
>>710845776
>implies that 9 months negate 7 years and 3 months of previous fucked-up faggotry
yeah, it's probably YOU who has no credibility, pal.
>>710845487
Not that anon, but that's the same mentality that ruled Black's couldn't own Guns and still weren't considered equal in eye's of the law because they might have been a little bitter towards Whites for owning slaves. You know, even though only 1% of ALL slaves trafficked during the slave trade were in the USA.
All the Democrat's and Liberal gun fear mongerers love to claim the NRA's racist "links" in the 1950's, conveniently leaving out the fact that the NRA was established in the USA to arm Black's, as people saw the implicit danger of the Government deciding who could and couldn't have Rights that were, allegedly, God given and couldn't be infringed upon.
>>710844105
>Which, 10 years later, people have concluded did absolutely nothing to reduce crime
Except we haven't had a mass shooting ever since. Meanwhile you guys have them every week.
>>710835189
Texasfag here. This.
The stereotypes about Texas are true in that there's crapton of right-leaning, pro-gun, NRA types in this State. What people don't know is that the stereotypical right-wingers represent the minority of gun owners.
Most gun owners in Texas are not members of the NRA, not necessarily conservative, and would just as soon not reveal their power level.
There is absolutely no way to truly estimate the number of firearms in Texas. To say it'd be a logistical nightmare to try and collect these weapons is an understatement. It's logistically impossible. It will not go well for anyone who tries.
I can only assume that this is true for the rest of the US as well.
Also, there are a crapload of pro-gun liberals in Texas. The majority of them are Bernie Sanders supporters. They are now understandably pissed at the Clinton camp...and they have guns.
>>710833494
cheat
>>710845439
You do realize that prior to obamacare (or romneycare, same thing) the free market was driving healthcare costs up at an exponential rate, right? The system was heading toward collapse, even the republicans admitted that much. Obamacare is a qualified success in that in did two things: flatten out the rate of increase, and regulate the industry to eliminate fraudulent "do nothing" policies (you could get insured pretty cheaply before obamacare but you'd be completely fucked if you ever actually needed anything more than a flu shot).
The reality is that a properly designed single-payer system is what we need (and what works reasonably well everywhere else in the civilized world), but the republicans have big pharma's cock so deeply up their asses that it's currently not possible to get there (to be sure there are dems with the same penchant for big pharma cock).
>>710845725
>rational conservative
>support trump
Pick one
>>710844083
So you're sad they aren't revolting just because it is an option?
And you are clearly deranged if you think 30k murders outweigh over 200k self defense uses.
In b4 you cry burden of proof cause you can't be asked to do any fucking research.
SHALL
>>710845776
>believing blatant bullshit numbers
If the economy is so great why has the debt doubled in eight years? How do you even spend that much in the first place?
>>710845908
>doesn't realize graph only goes to 2010
the print is pretty small, we'll give you a pass
>>710845908
>previous fucked-up faggotry
Bush was previous to those months, and Obama maintained economic growth through his entire Presidency.
You're fucking stupid
>>710845381
The Supreme Court has a lot of valid reasons for what it does. And I think everything you mentioned above as examples of why the Supreme Court is bad was legal. So I don't know what you want me to say.
The Supreme Court is supposed to go by the law, not what you feel at a moment.
And are you talking about the DNC rigging the election against sanders? Because parties have no actual obligation to be democratic. I want them to be but they're within their rights to pick whoever they like.
>>710845776
>pass ACA requiring mandatory healthcare for full time workers
>whoops that's a lot of money we're just gonna cut your hours instead and hire some spic to do the rest of them
>household income stagnation
>food stamp usage up
>homeownership down
>welfare up
>income inequality up
>let's change the meaning of unemployed to cook the books guys
>why are you complaining about Obongo goy, can't you see the economy is doing great :^)
And it's that disconnect right there. That's what going to make Hillary lose.
>>710845968
great rebuttal.
come back when you're ready for an adult discussion.
>>710835877
If you're european like me: fuck you.
It's people like you that are allowing our countries to become cucks ridden shitholes.
>>710840423
Brit here.
It clearly doesn't say that you illiterate fuck.
>>710844550
>stabbings are not fatal the vast majority of the time
So are shootings kek
>guns are way more dangerous than knives, you just shut yourself in the foot with that one.
I can't remember the last time I shot myself, but once I was cutting open some Chinese packaging and accidentally my hand
>>710845785
This is stale now
>>710846046
>Bush got to inherit the dotcom bubble that Clinton made
>He then got to enjoy the housing crash that BOTH parties made
lmao
>>710846022
The Federal Reserve bailed out the banks and added the number to the debt. It had nothing to do with Obama; it was continuation of a policy started by Bush to fix the economy that crashed during his Presidency due to Republican policies of deregulation.
Watch the news or something
>>710846046
>tfw the opposition accidentally proves your point
>>710840799
Why do you guys always have to default to the liberal bullshit? You do realize that you alienate yourself firther when you do that and split up those who support the second amendment right?
It's essentially destroying support for the thing you claim to defend by segregating different types of gun owners.
I am a liberal. My shooting buddies are liberals. But I am an avid 2nd Amendmemt supporter and have a license to carry in TX.
https://youtu.be/ov5kvWSz5LM
Pieczenik claims that the Clintons are attempting a coup by using corruption and political cronyism to infiltrate and influence the White House, CIA, FBI and Attorney General.
He goes on to state that a counter-coup has been initiated by members of the "intelligence community" from over a dozen agencies with the help of Wikileaks. When Comey brought the Weiner emails to light, this was:
the entrée in the counter-coup to say to the administration: "we have your number." Not only do we have your number, we're going to stop you from making Hillary the next POTUS, and at the same time we're going to convict and indict the POTUS, Loretta Lynch and many others who were involved in the massive coverup that occurred under the Clinton Foundation.
He goes on to state that this may be the first time both a coup and counter-coup was initiated via the internet. He stresses the need for a peaceful transition and that indeed this is a very important historical
gofundmecom/moving-to-canada-to-avoid-trump
>>710846092
>implying Trump supporters are adults
>>710846177
>was given tons of money, time and opportunity and did nothing but exacerbate a dangerous situation to world-threatening proportions
>>710845966
If I rarely get sick and only NEED a flu shot once a year, I should very well be able to ONLY pay for the services I need. There's nothing fraudulent about that.
Eliminating those policies you're trying to call "fraudulent" is the exact reason obamacare is imploding now. No one's going to pay for shit they don't need to cover some other poor fucker who's getting shot in a drug deal. And telling them they have to isn't freedom or American.
The problem is you keep blaming everyone but yourself. "republicans have big pharama's cock yadada" like democrats don't? kek
I should be able to pay for whatever healthcare I NEED when I NEED IT and that's that. I don't give 2 fucks about some underachiever I'll never meet not being able to pay his health bill. They can go get fucked for all I care. Sorry, not sorry.
>>710845966
Not the /b/ro you're talking to, but lemme holla...
Why are you comparing very, very small European nations who can't even afford their member dues to stay in the EU and get handouts to pay for their social programs to the USA?
I 100% admit that we have a serious fucking problem in America with the healthcare.
But, even if we trashed all social programs and the military budget, made it all 0, threw it all away, right? we still couldn't afford Free healthcare. Shit, we couldnt even afford free college...
We have too many people.
We need to get rid of the FDA's monopoly and unchecked mob ruling of our healthcare system. That alone would drive competetive drug manufacturers and healthcare providers to lower costs.
>>710845946
The reason people claim there are so many mass shootings in the US is because people deliberately use stupid definitions that nobody would actually think are reasonable. If you follow shit like the "mass shooting tracker" online, it uses a definition something along the lines of a person shooting at (and not even necessarily hitting) 4 (I believe is the specific number) other people.
So Jamal shooting at rivals on his corner in a drive-by = mass shooting and is counted as such.
Hell on at least 2 occasions that I know of they counted children shooting at people with pellet guns as mass shootings
>>710845215
Fellow socially liberal/libertarian with a fairly mixed view on economic issues checking in. I also like guns.
Lately I've been thinking about gun violence issues and more and more I'm coming to the conclusion that gun violence can actually be beneficial. In fact, I think given the current state of the economy for the average American, I'd actually like to see an increase in gun violence.
I'm not trying to be edgy, and I don't normally wish violence upon people, but hear me out. Guns in many ways democratize violence. I grew up in the ghetto and while gun violence was a frequent occurrence, I personally never felt scared of getting shot. I was always worried about being killed, but I didn't have the luxury of worrying about whether I would be shot, or stabbed, or beaten to death with a cinder block, or run over multiple times, all things that occurred in my neighborhood. Guns essentially "desegregate violence" to a point. Yes, certain communities suffer from and cause gun violence more than others, but every once in a while a middle/upper class person gets shot too. Without guns, and their ease of exacting violence, poor/uneducated communities would continue to suffer from more localized forms of violence like stabbing and beatings while already well off communities would become even more segregated from the effects of societal issues. I doubt we would see a huge reduction in overall crime in the most vulnerable communities but we would definitely see less violence impacting middle/upper class people.
Imo this is a bad thing. Violence, while unfortunate, is a method of signaling that we have some very serious societal issues we need to take care of. Without the risk of violence impacting the middle/upper classes, there would be little incentive, or I should say even less incentive, for those classes to give a shit about the working poor and marginalized communities.
Thoughts?
>>710846302
>implying kids don't manipulate adults.
>>710846201
>eight years
>still blaming bush
Obama is shit, get over it
Also
>watch the news
Lol you have got to be in fucking high school
>>710845725
>Now you're implying that no rational conservatives support Trump.
No need to imply it, it's just true on its own. Not saying you have to support Clinton, she has plenty of her own problems and fundamental idealogical differences from a lot of conservatives. But to actually support Trump? Rationality is to him like water is to the Wicked Witch of the West. His entire career and brand are completely dependent on a sizable portion of the country's inability to recognize bullshit when they see it.
>>710846302
Democratic values pander to young people including those younger than 18.
Even Hillary recently made fun of half her supporters by insulting bernie supporters.
What exactly are you trying to do here?
>>710846201
I love how this glosses over how Obama didn't pull out of the middle east when he said he would.
"Economic downturn"
Buzzwords
>>710836658
no shit fuckface von clownstick
>>710844483
That article doesn't say what you claim it says, faggot.
Conservatives proving yet again that they can't read and/or can't understand fine distinctions.
>>710846201
Stop trying to use facts, pussy. Trump supporters only run on gut feelings and assumption.
>>710846390
The fact that Bush is responsible for the two misguided and expensive wars he started doesn't change with time. Nor does his responsibility for poorly planned bailouts and market deregulation that caused the crash change.
When will you stop trying to defend him?
>>710846364
>implying he was seduced by a child
>>710846092
Come back when you're ready to field an adult candidate.
>>710844527
This is completely wrong, and a revisionist fairy-tale.
http://billmoyers.com/story/the-second-amendment-was-never-meant-to-protect-an-individuals-right-to-a-gun/
>>710846350
That same definition applies to us as well. Even if you disregard the small shootings, you guys still have shit like the Orlando shooting which wasn't even long ago. And Elliot Rogers, and Sandy Hook, ect.
Give up your arms, accept tomorrow's dictator.
>>710845937
>>710846399
>implying there's a difference between a grown up and an adult
>>710846510
and what about Bill Clinton?
>>710833730
kek underrated
>>710846402
He pulled out as fast as he could without dangerously destabilizing the region and used inexpensive means to greater effect than Bush ever managed.
>also he killed Bin Laden
>>710837967
ahahaha
>>710846247
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12zVlaZyX3Q
A second video was uploaded by Pieczenik on the same day, this time detailing the Clinton's ties to Jeff Epstein and the global pedophilia network.
He continues by stating that there's much more to the Weiner emails story, and that the NYPD has information about Hillary Clinton and many of the elites and their predilection for pedophilia.
Two high profile pedophilia cases have come to light in recent years, the abuses of Jerry Sandusky at Penn State and those of famed British entertainer Jimmy Savile. While both cases certainly garnered their fair share of media attention, their time in the spotlight has ended and we are led to believe that their horrific abuses were the result of a lone pedophile preying on children, while esteemed institutions turned a blind eye to their discretions.
Occasionally, however, the media would pick up on a story such as “Jimmy Savile was part of satanic ring” 1, EXPRESS UK, or “Jerry Sandusky was part of pedophile ring, victim claims” 2, GLOBAL POST. These stories seem absurd at first glance. Yet if they are investigated further, we are lead down a horrific and disturbing rabbit hole of pedophiles populating positions of power in government, finance, and entertainment.
This post will lay out the evidence for an international pedophile ring of massive proportions. The information contained within is of tremendous importance, for we are sitting on our very own modern holocaust, a holocaust of children. I promise that this statement is by no means an exaggeration, and urge you to not be scared away by these walls of text, which are as concise as possible while still conveying the necessary information. Throughout, I will be completely transparent with my sources, and will not beat you over the head with conclusions, but rather present you with evidence and let you decide for yourselves.
>>710846666
quads confirm
>>710846049
This...this is not serious, are you serious?
I don't think I can have a rational debate with you because you say that the Supreme Court "has their reasons" for not following the ONLY document that matters. The Law of the land itself....
Yes, I am talking about the DNC rigging the candidacy.
We have laws against Criminal Conspiracy and Vote Fraud. The only reason the JD claimed it wouldn't pursue them was because, "No precedence was set, and it would be hard to actually get a conviction." <--- What the actual fuck, anon.
Eh, who care's what the Law says, it's too hard to follow...just forget about it.
The Supreme Court only rules on shit before Election time. Both parties should be able to see the SC is rotten to the core and stagnant.
>>710846704
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/370439/Jimmy-Savile-was-part-of-satanic-ring
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/united-states/120929/jerry-sandusky-was-part-pedophile-ring-victim-cl
>>710846704
>>710846247
>>710843320
>hurr durr penis joke I funny
fuck off retard
>>710846396
I don't support Trump for his likeability. I support him for his policies. A lot of people didn't like Truman either, but he got shit done.
I'm fundamentally against Hillary's policies and fundamentally in favor of Trump's policies, including a secure border wall. There's not one thing irrational about that.
>>710846256
>Trump gets elected
>illegal aliens get deported
>butthurt Clinton supporters move to Canada
>America will be great again if only because it's not so damned crowded
>>710846591
>fearmongering is a tool of despots
>>710846793
Can we do an exchange? I like freedom, and DUDE WEED is a fucking embarassment
>>710846756
>ITT: penis joke made this cuck angry.
>>710846510
And how is Hillary Clinton different from Bush? I'm not defending bush at all, because I don't suck off politician cock like you do. I just think its funny you're trying to make a point about Obama winning an election against Hillary, despite the obvious fact he is exactly like her and she is exactly like bush. Hence trump has a strong chance of winning because americans are sick of these fucking people. Are you even american on that note?
>>710846651
Clinton still regrets his foreign policy mistakes and has spoken about them often and publicly, and they were nowhere near as costly as either Bush's Presidency.
Bush hides in his ranch and paints google search results.
>>710837559
Your comma placement makes no sense in that first instance
>>710846348
This.
We would really have to bite the bullet (maybe literally) for a long time after the FDA went away.
A lot of the stupidest would die, and a lot of the greedy would get themselves suicided, and a lot of regular people would probably be poisoned until the FDA got their monopoly back and made it bearable for a generation until the fat happy kids of the ones who said stahp got complacent again.
>>710846728
can you show us in the constitution the article about political parties and their elections?
>>710846793
Plot twist
>it was all a dream
>>710846757
...except for the fact that not even Trump knows what his own policies are (they change all the time based on who he's giving a speech to), and that a "secure border wall" is impossible. Not that it matters, because over 70% of illegal immigrants currently in this country didn't climb a wall to get in here, they walked in through the front door and simply overstayed their VISA's. No wall in the world is going to fix that... but it sure will make white people FEEL safer, provided they don't think about the details too hard.
>>710846605
??
Why are you posting that to me?
I'm not some racist nazi piece of shit.
I'm a new millennial republican.
We accept Gay's, trannies, Black's, Mexicans, Muslims, ANYONE who is a legal American citizen and wants to make america the best it can be and uphold the truths and rights acknloweged, not given to us, by our founding fathers.
>>710844651
Blacks are higher on the victim complex than white women.
>>710846757
please don't compare truman to trump. that's just fucked up.
>>710843284
Too bad the Supreme Court, the final arbiter of the constitution, doesn't agree with your interpretation.
I live in Switzerland and wouldn't mind if the American system was more like the Swiss system - mandatory military service and a requirement for continued gun qualifications/training/testing for the entire time you own a gun.
>>710846672
>without dangerously destabilizing the region
Do you read what you type or was the last bit of middleeastern news that the pullout was coming?
>>710846857
>I don't suck off politician cock
>just tiny orange reality TV star cocks
KEK
>>710846866
What about the Oklahoma City bombing and the 1998 embassy bombings both could have been stopped.
>>710847024
but both are lower than trump voters on that scale
>>710847001
Remove guns from blacks and you will see a major drop in gun related deaths.
>>710846247
>>710846704
>>710846755
>Implying any of this is reliable
>>710847080
>I have nothing left to say
>lulz y-you t-too haha
Liberalism 101
>>710846979
>white people hate details
>white people pay Jews to figure out details
>white people claim the Jews run everything
Or
>white people find country
>white people hate labor
>white people buy brown people to build everything
>white people complain about physical superiority of brown people
If they take away individuals guns then they should take away police officers guns.
>>710847080
A few example of how incredibly stupid Liberals are.
Michelle Obama addressing Trump's "Locker Room Talk" : "His words have shaken me to my very core."
Michelle and Barack have invited Jay-Z and Beyonce to the White House numerous times despite their lyrics being 100 times worse than anything Trump has ever said.
Hillary paraded both of them on stage for a concert yesterday to pander to the black vote.
Liberals: We are against body shaming! nobody should be a victim of body shaming! It's totally normal and healthy to be morbidly obese and men are pigs for not dating fat girls! It's absolutely disgusting!
In the same breath: Donald Trump has crap hair, small hands, orange skin, is extremely fat and probably has a tiny dick!
Example 2
Liberals: We should not paint all Muslims with the same brush! Not all of them are terrorists! that's a broad generalization!
In the same breath: All Donald Trump supporters are racist, sexist bigots and Islamaphobic!
Example 3
Liberals: We respect the right to free speech. We respect that not everyone agrees with out views and we thing that is amazing! that is what makes the world beautiful!
Individual who does not agree with every topic in a debate with a Liberal, Liberals be like: YOU'RE FUCKING RACIST AND BIGOTED!!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEE
Liberals in a nutshell. Liberalism is a mental disorder.
>>710847141
>Impying you even read any of it
>>710846728
Okay that's bad with Bernie and I'm tired. Honestly I don't really know anything about that except the emails between the Clinton campaign and the DNC to smear Bernie. The Wall Street Journal headline tells me that the primary wasn't stolen from Bernie so ill just go with that shit though. I really just wanted to make a point to that condescending fucker that he's not omniscient like he thinks he is.
>>710845947
I like you. I liked Texas when I was there. Quite seriously, some of the friendliest people I have ever met. Went for a wedding. I'm from LA, and originally from New England. I'm pretty fucking liberal. I trust ALL of you fuckers with guns. I trust all the "uptight liberals" with guns. I trust any responsible person with a gun....literally any gun, full auto whatever. I really do think it's a shame that the southern "gun loving" states get so much Shit for shootings when literally none of them happened in those states. The problem is that we, as a society, no longer have time to raise our kids.
>also
>the biggest thing
>we've stopped bully's from keeping the freaks down
>>710847045
what are you even trying to say?
>>710847217
that last line just voided your entire argument.
>>710843895
>>710844677
>well regulated militia, being necessary for the security of a free state
Mmmm that sounds like a police force and a military and not so much random citizens
>>710833586
>>710834100
>>710835405
>>710836658
Do you see quotation marks in the op? She may not have said "you have no constitutional right to bear arms" word for word but she has said she believes the supreme court got it wrong when they ruled people have a right to keep a loaded gun for protection in their own home. Its pretty hard to believe that and still believe the right of the people to keep and bears arms shall not be infringed. That should give people the idea of the kind of supreme court justice she will appoint.
The second amendment has always applied to the individual right of the people. To suggest anything else is ludicrous. If it were only to apply to a militia it would say the right of the militia not the right of the people. The entire bill of rights applies to the people.
>>710846757
Dude, if Trump was alive during that time and had succeeded to the presidency after FDR's death instead of Truman, he would have sued the Chicago Daily Tribune for that famous headline about Dewey, and then nuked North Korea because Kim Il-sung made fun of his hair.
>>710847381
No. No, it didn't. Sorry, not sorry.
>>710843199
You're a moron. James Madison himself gave permission to a local captain to use a warship with canons for personal use.
There were also repeatable assault weapon like the belton flintlock that were completely legal.
>>710847217
>>710847217
>>710847195
>>710847195
Shils trying to stretch the thread to make sure you don't read these.
>>710846247
>>710846704
>>710846755
>>710847150
>nothing left to say
>muh liberalism
not big on self-awareness, huh?
>>710847217
>new to politics
>can't tell the difference between an artist writing lyrics and a conman running for president
>Trumps hands a penis were brought up by him and the gop. Don't blame dems for acknowledging the kerfuffle in your party
>examples 2&3 cancel each other out. Good job anon.
>>710847502
>shill complaining that no one is paying attention to his propaganda
>>710847116
Yeah? That's technically a true statement based on logic and facts, I'll give you that, but its disengeuous to leave it like that and not acknowledge the root of the problem isn't Blacks owning guns legally or illegally, its a cultural problem caused by our own government.
The 1960s and 70s DECIMATED the Black American family Unit by the government literally going door-to-door signing blacks up for welfare and breaking the family structure apart and creating the mass poverty we see today.
You need to seriously take yourself out of the blinder-mentality and look at the cause and affect between the Gov't and the social problems we have today. It's not a simple statistical problem.
>>710847116
and a rise in non-gun related deaths
>logic is hard
To suggest that the second amendment only applies to a militia and that militia is the military makes no sense. Why would a military need a constitutional right to keep and bear arms? That seems like it would be a pretty pointless amendment since a disarmed military is obviously useless.
>>710844677
For context, "the militia" is every US citizen from 18 to 45 years of age.
>>710847305
That the middle east isnt stable.
>>710833494
https://youtu.be/Ildtq20FK7I
>>710847217
Last time I checked, Jay-Z isn't running for president.
>>710847682
>implying propaganda is a lie
>>710847116
Good luck. After that try to take drugs away from them. You will also probably want to go after knives and cars and bats, hammer etc...
>>710841508
Holy shit. Stop acting like enough people would do that to make a difference. Hillary supporters really are idiotic.
>>710845875
...when Trump goes down in flames, threatening to sue the fire all the way?
>>710844105
0/10 pig. Noone can be that deluded.
>>710847591
>>710847812
Last time I checked, no member of the KKK was running for president either but you idiots love to say that somehow makes Trump racist when he neither knows any of them or controls who decides to endorse him.
topkek
you motherfuckers just PROVED MY POINT FOR ME.
Double speak and hypocrisy is literally all you dumbass liberals have.
Yet, Hillary HAS come out and said that her greatest mentor was a prominent member of the KKK and Hillary HAS spent her entire campaign railing against "sexism, misogyny, and homphobia" yet invites one of the most vocal sexists and misogynists on stage to represent her campaign.
The fucking hypocrisy is laughable at this point.
>>710845875
Trump is going to lose. Badly. You actually think he's going to win.
That's adorable.
>>710847795
red ice live? that is how public TV would look like if the nazis had won the war
>>710847591
>>710847812
I'm no Trump fan, in fact I think he's a narcissistic moron, but I agree that if Dems are going to make a big deal out of Trump's "locker room" talk, they probably shouldn't be inviting shitty rappers to the White House.
>>710833494
Well, your founding fathers, clever as they might have been, did fuck up when they put the "one gun in every home" policy in the constitution
>>710843106
You haven't met very many military people have you? MOST would side with people. Former navy here.
>>710845875
>looks at electoral map
>does math
>mfw
>>710847403
Good thing it doesn't say anything about the right of the militia, when it gets to the part about the right it clearly says the people. Try to keep up.
Why would they feel a need to add an amendment, the second one even, just to protect the right of the military to be armed? Seems like common sense the military would have to be armed.
Maybe it could have something to do with the fact they just got done fighting a war against a military and knew that they were an necessary evil and since we needed a military we also needed to arm the people so they don't fall victim to it?
Clinton team terrified of latest Wikileaks release: 'Friends, please remember that if you see a whopper of a Wikileaks in next two days - it's probably a fake.' - Best Twitter answer: 'except WikiLeaks uses Google DKIM authentication you moron'
DynCorp employees hired a 15-year-old boy to strip dance for them. Hillary Clinton covered this up because she received money from DynCorp. This was revealed yesterday through WikiLeaks, yet no mainstream media is covering this.
>>710847403
Read carefully...
>A well regulated Militia,
Militia meant every able bodied man
back then a man was 17-18 and was considered a militia member of his state
>being necessary to the security of a free State,
free state means free from a corrupt government. Notice the comma? That's important for this next part...
>the right of the people to keep and bear Arms,
This is arguably not the operational clause, but a sub clause within the main which is clearly understood when read outloud
>shall not be infringed."
Remember the comma above? this means the state, the government, nobody can infringe upon this right
not sure why the comma even matters to either side of the argument when read out loud its quite clear...and either way the comma argument cements the context anyways...
>>710846067
Too bad your little fantasy doesn't match reality. The economy has been expanding for 7 years now. If you're falling behind maybe you should work harder or get some education. At least get off disability.
From: Johnson, David T
Sent:
Thursday, June 04, 2009 11:37 AM
To: Campbell, Piper A; Wood, Robert A (PACE); Crocker, Bathsheba N
Cc: Crowley, Philip J; Hammer, Michael A; Byrnes, Robert S; Pittman, Susan R (INL); Sullivan, John C (INL/PC); McGlynn,
William J; Macmanus, Joseph E; Kennedy, Patrick F; Matano, Albert K; Jones, Paul W; Russell, Daniel A; Polt, Michael C
Subject: Dyncorps Post Story -- Second Shoe To Drop
Folks,
You may recall an April 17 Post story on problems with Dyncorps in Afghanistan which focused on a suspected
drug overdose death, breakdown in internal controls within the company, and actions the USG and the firm
were taking. The other issue that surfaced at the time was a colossal error in judgment by one of the
contractors' employees in hiring an adolescent boy dancer for some sort of event that, at least to most folks,
looked very inappropriate. The Post is now looking at the dancing boy, which was not included in the April 17,
article, and we expect will soon publish a story on it.
The Post inquiry at this point focuses only on confirming whether or not there's an OIG investigation. We are,
of course, referring the Post to the OIG on such a question. However, the premise for the question raises the
issue again in some eye-popping rhetoric which could feature in the follow-up story, so I wanted to make sure
everyone had a heads-up.
We have already relieved the folks involved with both incidents and I am meeting with the firm's CEO today to
hear his report on his trip to Afghanistan and Iraq to address these, as well as other, issues on which we have
demanded corrective actions.
I'm attaching the original note to Deputy Secretary Lew at the time of the original inquiry which lays out both
issues, a copy of the memo the INL section at Embassy Kabul provided to Post Management on the most
recent Post inquiry, as well as the Post inquiry itself for context.
David.
>>710848223
>>710846161
> 2016
> American
> doesn't use his gun to open packages
Kek
>>710848113
Right? It's not even a partisan thing, it's a matter of principle. It's pure hypocrisy. It's the "do as I say, and not as I do" mentality that people are sick and tired of with the dems. The rules apply to everyone but them. People are sick of it, can't wait for Tuesday Obama can't be gone soon enough.
>>710843828
>uses picture of a controversial comedian.
>doesnt prove a point.
>>710848340
Incoming from Post:
"According to my reporting, the week of April 13th, the DynCorp regional commander from Konduz, Flint Chambers,
allowed his men to hire a 15-year-old boy dancer to do tribal dances at a DynCorp party on the training site.
Some 15 or so DynCorp employees in attendance pulled out a single chair and had the boy do mock lap dances. This
was captured on video. The video shows DynCorp employees putting dollar bills in the boy's waistband, just as they would
a stripper's garter. The revelry lasted about 45 minutes.
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UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05761691 Date: 06/30/2015
No sex took place.
The video was leaked to Kabul INL program manager, Marissa Martin. INL Washington ordered INL Kabul to replace the
entire DynCorp chain of commaand.
The video was leaked by Mike Gonzalez to another DynCorp employee who emailed the video to Martin. Flint Chambers
retaliated against Mike by spitting in his face, pushing him to the ground in front of the DynCorp security building in Kabul.
Chambers was fired, along with Dean Deines, Stan Knee and David Kelly.
Can you confirm that the IG is looking into this? (in addition to the Kurt Schafer incident)
Thank you,
Ellen Nakashima
The Washington Post"
From: Nash, Ardenia R (INL/FO)
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:56 PM
To: Johnson, David T
Subject: FINAL version - Note to Lew - Dyncorp
«Dyncorps Sec Note.doc>>
>>710845875
what does that mean "even zuckerberg"?
do you suggest that he is a cool guy?
he steals all the data and sells it to everyone. he is 1984
>>710847767
everything is relative, the point is to not make it worse
>>710848389
he probably means since he is a flaming liberal
>>710846343
That's great until you get cancer or in a car accident and can't afford to pay your bill because you're a poor fag on disability and I end up paying your fucking bill you deadbeat.
>>710847986
>and yet, you still lose
clearly, I DON'T think it makes a difference, but it has nothing to do with how many retards try to cheat, you already lost a long time ago.
>>710848568
You're assuming something that hasn't happened yet and what I would do while my position was based in things that HAVE ALREADY happened. Your position doesn't hold water, fucko. :^)
>>710848354
I agree, and I say this as a black anon who most people on this board would probably consider a communist/nigger.
I think the hypocrisy of both establishment parties is what's driving a lot of the division in this country, and the fact that the Dems have been in charge lately is what has led to the rise of Trump. If Hillary wins and the Dems are emboldened, we can all expect the backlash to only get worse.
how did people become this stupid?
they kept voting republican until all the education funding was gutted and now the only requirement to pass the test is a fucking pencil. do you have a pencil? yes? good, you passed, it's physics.
>>710848485
And leaving a mess behind lead to making it worse.
Please stop trying to suck his dick.
>>710848680
how are you a communist? You're educated to a reasonable degree,use the internet so you must have a income or a family that supports you, and your not living in South America or Russia, or N.Korea...
>nigger
>>710848705
>education funding was gutted
I'm no Republican but it's important to realize that the US has extremely high per student educational spending. Our shitty schools and dumb citizens are as much a result of the Democrats as the Republicans.
>>710848906
I'm not a communist, but I do support single payer healthcare as well as extremely strong regulations on "natural" monopolies and I assume some on this site would label me a communist because of that. That label would clearly be wrong but that hasn't stopped them before.
>>710844610
and who decides what unalienable rights we have?
>>710849016
random anon here
shitty citizens arent produced by the educational system...or political party affiliation..theyre produced by shitty parents...
shitty parents raising shitty kids making society a shittier place than it was a generation before...the circle of America
>>710849260
This is true, I just hate every moron implying that our shit schools are the result of spending cuts.
>>710846979
>blames white people for problems caused by brown people
>calls white people racist for calling out A problem
Trump has no filter but when he talks about fixing the economy it sounds a whole lot better than obama or clinton pushing said economy problem to the side.
>>710849223
are you trolling that anon?
You answered your own question.
Rights cannot be regulated, given, or taken away.
Privileges can, not Rights.
It's important to understand the Left and Rightwing ideologies here. Right = Christian, Left = Atheist
The Constitution, declaration of independence, bill of rights, its ALL signed under the Witness of God, and are all "given by God" and just ACKNOWLEDGED by the founding fathers.
