tfw parents made me move out because I'm 26 now
>tfw cheapest place I could find was 975 a month utilities included
>tfw I make 1400 a month
How does anyone afford to live when you work full time and only make 1400 dollars? I used to spend 200 a week on just alcohol when I lived with my parents for fuck sakes and now I can't even afford to drink and I had to quit smoking
Pic kind of related
>>710755003
maybe if you weren't always drinking you could get a job that pays more than 1400
probably not though because you sound like a waste of oxygen
>>710755003
>wah I can't drink or smoke
You sound like a fuckin pussy. Go be a waiter at a fuckin restaurant if you want disposable income
>>710755003
inheritance is about the only way. either inherit money or opportunity. otherwise youre gunna be working til 30 just for a chance at a degree
>>710755003
Called the real world nigger
>>710755674
This
Once you move out you no longer have money for anything except necessities
Manage your money better and sell weed on the side. I make 1100/mo and pay 900/mo and my total monthly living cost is about 1500. Alternating between a sidejob and selling pot has always made up the difference + disposable income. It sounds like you never learned fiscal responsibility. It's easy.
>>710755003
Boo hoo pussy. Get a better paying job if you want money.
>>710756065
He clearly hasn't learned how to spend money if he has hundreds left over after paying rent and he's still broke
>>710756199
I live in ontario canada and everything here is way more expensive than in the states
>>710755003
Get a roommate since you have a shit job (which at 26 is funny holy shit how bad have you wasted your life lol)
>>710755003
>26
>Earns $1400
That's your choices catching up with you.
>>710756418
>he thinks 26 is old
top kek I know 40 year olds who make what he does
>>710756560
That's really sad.
>>710756520
>implying I get to choose how much my job pays
>>710756612
How so? Not everyone gets to be a doctor
>>710755003
Kek op ur a faggot.
im 3 years younger than you and i make 4 times what you make.
also from ontario
>>710755003
Iktf OP and tbh I'm probably just going to an hero because I don't get to live like a normal person and go out and do things etc
>>710756659
>>710756756
Well that's your fault retards.
>>710756659
if you have no skills worth paying for, why should you expect more than 1400? you chose this path by drinking in your mom's basement rather than learning a marketable kill
>>710756879
No it isnt we dont get to choose our pay rate
>>710755003
move you fucking dumbass. You don't have to live in an expensive ass city
>>710756878
Normal people don't go out and do things constantly. Normal people work, eat, sleep and do house work. Stop being a pussy and wake up to the real world.
>>710756967
You can study in order to further your career.
>>710757013
Yeah they do all the normal people I know go out to restaurants almost everyday which I'd never be able to afford to do
>>710756659
yeah, you do actually if you went to school or got into a trade instead you just sat in your parents basement masturbating and working fast food
>>710755003
a shared flat, it's way cheaper then... or don't you do that in murrica?
>>710757152
I'm not in America I'm in canada which is way more epensive and has no jobs that pay a livable wage
>>710757104
I've never known anyone who does that. Your friends must be pretty rich considering all the people I know make a decent income yet they can only afford to work 24/7
>>710756294
>>710756659
Holy shit you sound fucking helpless.
>learn higher paying skills
>apprentice or learn a trade
>eat rice and frozen meat
>fuck cable
>fuck internet
>steal wifi
>write out expenses and round up
>write out pay and round down
>assure you add to savings every month
>no big purchases til you save $5k min.
>improve at your skills and get paid more
>buy nicer shit slowly and repeat
>>710757227
Then move.
>>710757104
what the fuck are you on about.
i know plenty of people on the rich side and even they don't go out every fucking night.
>>710757241
They aren't rich but they make a lot more than I could ever imagine making
>>710755262
>>710757246
I only eat peanut butter sandwiches and rice
>>710757246
And that is the adult world.
>>710757227
a shared flat, it's way cheaper then... or don't you do that in canada?
>>710757246
Now This Nose knows how to live
>>710757381
I know someone who goes out to eat everyday she's the CFO and my friends mum. Fuckin MILF, and makes 160k/yr
>>710757473
But what about the other stuff? The most important of which is GET EDUCATED.
>>710757574
I'm not intelligent when it comes to anything like education
>>710756756
Bruh median wage in USA is 55k
>>710755003
You have 3 options
>1
Move back in with your parents so you have time to get a degree
>2
Look for a better paying job, may or may not work
>3
Get a studio apartment, just a place to sleep, and work two jobs until you have enough saved up to the point where you can quit one and live comfortably.
>>710757649
Excuses.
>>710757670
55k is a shit load compared to what I make
>>710757670
Kek median my ass.
>>710755003
kek when I make $1k+ per week
>>710757104
>restaurants
>mac fucking d
pick one
>>710757753
Median wage in murica is how much those money grubbing niggers get from govmen' 49% of america recieves some form of financial aid (cant cite this heard it from my professor but i dont doubt it)
>>710757753
You need to learn a valuable skill. Why would someone pay you more? What do you have to offer? Think about that hard man and quit vices for a bit. Clear your head. gl hf
>>710757681
I look for jobs every single day and the average job pays between 11.70 and 12.50 an hour which isn't any better than what I get now
>>710757670
that actually sounds high for the median
there are a shitload of people like op who end up as lifelong burger flippers because they never learn how to be productive members of society
>>710758031
>implying burger flipping isn't needed
They're more valuable to me than most people who work lmao
>>710758106
won't be long before the burger flippers are replaced by burger flipping machines for cheaper
that'll be a fun time
>>710758106
the value isn't in the
>we need al lot of people doing this job
it's in the
>how hard is it to find someone efficiently doing this job
since anyone can flip burgers, even if the need is high, the value is low
>>710755003
26, and you still aren't an adult
>>710758106
This
Funny but it's true. People who make pizzas and burgers are more important than any job other than electricians,auto mechanics and house builders
>>710758178
Won't totally happen. You'll still need human staff.
What's going to happen is that place with automation will be forced to pay higher wages for shorter hours and faggots like you will bitch about it.
>>710758459
Bullshit. if "anyone"can flip burgers, then they need to be paid a decent wage that compensates for their full-time participation.
you could just kill yourself OP. thatll teach em
>>710758500
Fuck you, we were told we were going to have all these jobs in the 2000s and we don't.
Stop fucking whiteknighting the rich.
>>710758500
Anyone who doesn't know how to budget and save money is a child. I make 200 more dollars a month than OP and I save 30% of every paycheck each week
>>710756659
holy fuck i think ur the stupidest person ive ever seen on this website. No wonder nobody wants to pay you well
>>710758583
Yeah because without them lazy fucks would have to make that shit themselves. They are paying for the convenience to just drive up and pick that shit up.
>>710758868
I do my job because I like it not because of the pay, I get paid to workout and lift shit all night
>>710758868
What fucking world do you live in where faggots can just walk off the street and demand the salary they want?
>>710758759
>anyone can
>everyone is
not the same deal
>implying your full-time participation has the same value as someone's who's skilled
>>710758759
who defines what people "need" to be paid?
you?
>>710758994
You're not going to win this one.
No matter what job you work, it should make your ends meet. You want a throwback society to 100 years ago. We don't live like that anymore.
>>710757960
>can't cite it, but someone told me it so I believe it
let me guess, you're voting trump?
>>710758990
THIS
I'd like to know where you can get paid whatever you want
>>710759090
Jobs where someone is working full time and can't meet basic needs like food and shelter shouldn't be allowed to exist at those low rates.
They do not meet modern-day society's requirements. Inb4 work 3 jobs. Fuck that. Why do you want our lives to be slavery, brah?
>>710759107
Jobs shouldn't be allowed to pay someone a wage so low that they can't live like a normal person
>>710759107
>Let's all create ourselves imaginary, very important jobs and all magically get paid the salary we demand to live a totally improper lifestyle regarding our contribution to society and responsibilities.
>>710758007
What skills do you have that are worth more than entry level mouth breather jobs? Market those. If you're an entry level mouth breather, then tough it out with your shitty job and try to be the hardest worker there. Once you get to some sort of management position you can at least apply for those types of positions at somewhere else.
>>710759242
it's not a question of what i want. while i would love for everyone to be able to make more money, it doesn't work like that. if you artificially raise the price of labor to the point where it doesn't make financial sense to hire someone, you've just dropped their wage from $10/hour to $0/hour
>>710759357
So it's not the job, it's you being judgmental about what people do with their take home pay.
Funny how you faggots go apeshit if someone applies that attitude to a rich person. :)
>>710755003
Time to drink the plastic bottle alcohol.
>>710759292
Take it or leave it, the pay is defined before you apply for the job. If you're not satisfied, someone else is. Maybe that will force you to actually learn a skill or get an education where you'll be needed in society.
>>710755003
$975 a month utilities included and you make 1400? that's 425 dollars a month to live on. you are making PLENTY of money.
>>710755003
Nigger how are you 26 and only making $8.75 a hour?
>>710759242
Higher paying low level jobs means less low level jobs to go around. Which means the people that do get those jobs will have to work harder/more and everyone else is jobless. Which do you want, more people paid shit, or less people paid less shit?
>>710759427
>it doesn't work like that.
not an argument
and nobody's proposing we raise wages to some business-imploding figure
just saying shit under $15 is a fucking joke in the US. You are being paid shit and your boss has the advantage. Why would we want to keep putting up with this shit in society?
Labor rights issues aren't going to go away, brah, they're going to escalate.
>>710759496
I always have drank the cheap alcohol but here in ontario a 1.14L bottle of vodka is 37.25$ and when you almost drink one a say it's expensive
>>710759581
depends on if that's before or after tax
even assuming that's after tax, and op lives as cheaply as possible, he can put away 100-200 a month for savings
at that rate, he should be able to retire in about 300 years
>>710759698
That sounds like a bare assertion, anon. You're really not giving me a reason why people should be paid wages which meet needs like getting an apartment.
>>710759581
He's just a greedy fuck he makes plenty to live off of
>>710759489
>it's you being judgmental about what people do with their take home pay.
No, it's about:
>the value they create for the society they live in (improving the standards of life for the others: better resources, utilities, ..)
>the difficulty to find someone else to replace them equally when they quit
>the level of responsibility engaged and damage caused when they fuck up
>and so on
>>710758583
I can make a pizza. I can make a burger. I don't know how to run wiring or how to fix my transmission.
>>710759725
Nigger minimum wage jobs are to get experience when you are young, not to work your whole fucking life at.
>>710755003
so you have about 14 a day to spend on things you really need, which is food for the most part
I could easily live on that, you can even find a cheaper place to stay and have more money to work with every day
spending 200 a month on booze is just fucking retarded
>>710755003
OP this thread is turning into a retarded minimum wage hike discussion, but it's been pointed out that you lack needed skills to make more money.
And if you're not going to get a job in a warehouse, then you need to find something white collar like IT or management. You can take these courses at your community college or online. Not that expensive and you might even get financial aid or loans.
That's what I would do. Find your potential.
>>710759725
i probably agree with you in general, but society is going to implode in the next 50 years or so due to automation making the average human obsolete
raising the minimum wage will only speed up the process
>>710759725
my company recently upped my pay from $13/hr to 15.75/hr
I didn't need it. I'm now making about 4$ more than I would need if I didn't have roommates.
>>710759914
Except that's not the reasoning behind them when the minimum wage was created.
You're parroting what right-wingers say.
>>710759830
You are generalizing. And just finding some dude off the street to replace someone who was doing a good job costs the company money.
You just want faggots to be cogs in a wheel while you look down from some economic plateau above them.
>>710759830
as in:
>your job is to flip a burger, but you fuck up
>$2 loss
>when you quit, the day later you're replaced by M. Nobody with no skills
against:
>your job is to fly a commercial plane, but you fuck up
>up to tens of millions of $ loss
>the day you quit, it takes years + thousands of $ of training (and a brain) for your replacement to be at the proper level
>>710760037
I don't know about automation replacing humans.
Industries have been going auto for a 100 years now or more and yet shit-tons of jobs have been created since then.
Holy shit 975 a month for rent? You must live in Toronto and that price is for a decent one bedroom apartment. Most people start at renting rooms in a house or basement apartment of a house and that goes for around 600 max if you must stay in Toronto for your job. Stop having such high standards of living when you are a shit tier citizen.
>>710760039
>I didn't need it.
Shut up. LOL
>>710755003
split that place with two roomates you entitled mamas boy
>>710760043
Not originally but now that's what it has become. I don't expect minimum wage to jump up to $17 an hour because I made poor life choices and everyone should feel bad for me. Go to some pinko commie country and see how that's worked for them. I have no education but I'm making good money because I took a trade. Go fuck yourselves if you think you can't do it
OP they're going to implement basic income of 22k a year for everyone who works in ontario soon, we will all be living better than we do now
http://cheesespin.net/
brand new shit
>>710760300
Yeah but who the fuck wants that shit?
If housing is going to be so expensive, then labor needs to counter it.
Didn't you post this same shitty faggot thread yesterday? How come you haven't killed yourself yet? Get on with it.
>>710760300
sorry bud, what decent one bedroom apartment cant you get in toronto for 975 a month?
i would imagine that would be bare minimum unless your living in some shit can area or appartment
>>710760196
>And just finding some dude off the street to replace someone who was doing a good job costs the company money.
For that kind of job, flipping burgers, it's pocket money
>$5 add in college newspaper / board
>15min interview
>tadaaa
Do you know much about the process of finding someone for a high qualification demanding skills job, possibly under national security / psycho checks, .. ?
>>710760372
Doesn't matter if someone "thinks" they can do your shit or not.
No one can work jobs that pay 8-10 bucks an hour and be expected to get along in society. Shit is just too expensive to do that now.
The wage needs to be bumped. Hard.
>>710760294
there's no reason to believe that will continue
we already have enough technology that we could support the world population with maybe 30% of people working
the only reason the majority of people are still employed is that minimum wage humans are currently a bit cheaper than machines in a lot of industries
once that threshold is crossed, there will be literally zero financial incentive to employ the majority of humanity
>>710760567
Bullshit. If you get rid of someone who's been doing a good job, it's going to cost you to get back up to speed.
And you're no fucking expert. You're just pushing the establishment line of bullshit about why business has no responsibility to address employer needs.
>>710759756
>liter of vodka a day
holy shit dude, alcoholic much?
>26
I would've kicked your ass out of the house years ago
>>710760585
>implying everyone deserves to get along in society
society needs to filter out those who slow it down by draining more than the value they produce
in the wild and unforgiving nature, the weakest of the animals don't go very far in life
>>710760720
I dunno, that sounds pretty tinfoilly. You'd have to be talking about seriously major innovations, and we've had them and yet other types of jobs have been created in the past 20 years alone.
>>710760854
Starting with you.
>>710760720
This is why a basic income will put into place for everyone
>>710755003
Did you even offer to pay your parents rent duing this time, or were you just a huge mooch?
Don't bother answering, you're an alcoholic scumbag, so we both know the answer.
Welcome to adulthood.
How to win in Ontario, easy mode:
Go to college for massage therapy.
Get your RMT
Make $100 an hour (in the city) or $85 an hour outside the city.
Work part time
Laugh.
>>710760512
>>710755003
I dont have a job im 19 and my rent is 1000 a month and ive been living on my own since i was 16. Dont be a bitch make ends meet and get over it
>>710760585
The wage gets uped and jobs go down, and shit costs more. You're too fucking dumb to realize this I guess
>>710760911
jobs will continue to exist for skilled workers
the days where unskilled humans are worth the price of the roof over their heads are numbered
>>710757065
U a dumb dumb
>>710760585
I totally agree man the minimum wage needs a massive increase because the cost of living is insanely high now
>>710760769
a company will spend thousands to hire a competent engineer, taking HR man-hours, paperworks, interviews, attracting bonuses..
john's papa pizza will take a gran total of maybe an hour or two to get a new delivery guy.
Just reimbursing the travel expenses for a qualified job interview (maybe unsuccessful) will exceed the total cost of finding a new burger flipper.
>>710755003
we have a 300 euro min salary, be grateful amerifat.
>>710761108
How do you pay rent with no job? I don't want to work and I'm 23 but can't figure out how to get enough free money that I don't have to work at all
>>710761478
Suck dick
>>710761523
that's why it's called a blow job
>>710761035
Like rubbing dudes off?
>>710761005
I lived there for free because they're my parents
>>710761478
>i dont wanna work
>i want money
Dumb libtard detected
>>710755535
man the fuck up
just get a fucking job, and decide what you want to do
then fucking do it
>>710761743
Why have children if all life consists of is working and stressing about money 24/7? I'd never put someone through this shit we call life
Just get a better job. Improve yourself, build some skills and make more money. I know my words sound simple, and that it will be hard for you, but everyone can do this. Dedicate time towards self improvement and you will be successful. It's unfortunate you squandered your time under your parents roof, that was very foolish, but it's not too late to start.
>>710762042
Basically if you aren't rich don't have kids
>>710762168
Ive tried to get a better job but nothing pays any more than I already make
>>710762168
well, i guess that might help if you're lucky
i worked my ass off and now i make 110k + bonuses
money doesn't buy happiness
the world is still shit and i still hate my life
sorry to piss on your parade
>>710762414
If I made 110k a year Id be happy as fuck
>>710762646
what's the secret to happiness?
>>710762414
110k+ a year? You're rich as fuck man
>>710762801
Alcohol and spending money
>>710762871
i drink more than my fair share of alcohol
still not happy
what should i spend money on?
>>710762946
Do other drugs as well, if I could afford to drink and do drugs I'd be very happy
>>710762828
no i'm not
you're just poor in comparison to me
110k is nowhere near rich as fuck
>>710762646
I make 120k and I am not happy as fuck.
I certainly would not be able afford your happy lifestile living by myself on a 900$ appartment and working only 40 hours a week after my wife finishes divorcing me
>>710755262
You're a fuckin retard
Obviously alcohol and nicotine are luxuries but hi's point is getting on your feet after being babysat your entire life is difficult stop avoiding the subject and kekking at his mental disability
>>710763010
done that too
drugs are just artificial happiness, and your mind eventually realizes that
i've been smoking a quarter oz of weed a week for the past 10 years or so
trying to stop now because it's fucked up my lungs and i've lost the drive to socialize
>>710756199
Holy shit even on the Internet you sound like someone who's never had to pay their own way in life
>>710762646
You forget the taxes you have to pay on that income. Plus property taxes and other real life shit you have to factor in. 100k is still not rich as fuck.
>>710756967
You don't get to choose your wage but you do get to choose your job you fucktard. You need the money and they need work done it's a simple give take.
>>710763034
Spoiled rich kid detected
>>710757227
Are you dumb?
I live in fucking Vancouver and I sent myself to school no problem. Get over yourself, life isn't gonna get any easier.
>>710757393
That's your problem, you can't imagine a better life. How did your parents afford what they have? THEY WORKED FOR IT!!!
>>710757649
The only reason you aren't gonna go anywhere in life is because you don't want to
>>710763812
good guess, but no
i make what i do because i worked my ass off
i sacrificed a normal social life to study and start my own business on a shoestring budget
business did well for a while, but eventually went under and i lost a ton of money
i still have the skills i worked my ass off to learn though, so i'm worth that money to employers
>>710756612
>Being this new
>>710757065
>i studied a thing
>pay me more money
Everyone in school
>>710757227
So, it's pretty much the same in America
>>710759118
Didnt vote for anyone. Our votes dont count.
>>710764555
that is essentially how it works, give or take
as long as you study a marketable skill instead of feminist shit
>>710764787
Wanted john kasich
>>710757246
>scavenge
>penny pinch
>buy useless things for entertainment
You must be living the good life anon.
>>710755003
>How does anyone afford to live when you work full time and only make 1400
welcome to adulthood and the poverty trap anon.
I been doing this shit since I was 16.
The only way out is through education, crime or luck
>>710757554
Is she fat too? I only fatties eat out all the time.
>>710765063
Typical middle age woman, kinda chubby but its in the right spots so she looks decent. Namely her fucking huge knockers
>>710759118
In 2011 some 49.2 percent of U.S. households received benefits from one or more government programs—about 151 million out of an estimated 306.8 million Americans—according to U.S. Census Bureau data released last October
There ya go mate
>>710764936
welcome to the real world you fuckhead, this is what 85% of the capitalist world do, work 40hours a week at jobs they hate just to survive, then save up for a little luxury here and there
>>710755003
Literally go back to school for 2 years in a trade or if you're that fucking dumb there's a ton of construction jobs, etc that can pay up to 10-12 dollars starting out that pretty much require atleast a highschool education, and get used to not drinking and smoking if you intend to keep a job paying that low, because those are luxuries, not needs, and your bills, food, and utilities come first, money left over can either be saved or spent on drugs if you want.
>>710765702
>alcohol and cigarettes aren't needs
you've clearly never been an addict like op
alcohol and cigarettes are literally more important than food and shelter
>>710766129
>alcohol and cigarettes are literally more important than food and shelter
don't ever complain about poor life choices
>>710765037
>The only way out is through education, crime or luck
This 100%
And the two options, other than luck, can both make things significantly worse if you aren't careful.
>>710766644
They are
>>710756294
Im from there too and thats a bullshiy excuse
>>710755003
>Nickle
Kys faggit
>>710767685
>faggit
Kys doosh
>>710767774
>doosh
Kys moran
>>710767846
>moran
Kys looser
>>710765037
> implying education is cheap
It's a hard dive into debt first
>>710758825
Kek you entitled fucking child. Better yourself, grow up.
>>710755003
>Pic kind of related
theres your answer right there faggot OP.
When you start out, you'll probably have to suck 100 dicks for $10 each to make $1000.
As yo up your game, and find some repeat customers, you can suck 20 dicks for $50 each for that drinking money.
Maybe, just maybe, you can get good enough one day to only have to suck 5 dicks for $200 each. But you really gotta up your game for that.
>>710758962
Well then you can't complain about having no money - you do a job you like, which means you can't do other things you like(eating in restaurants, for example). You could work a job you didn't like, which paid more money, and in exchange you could do those other things.
>>710759292
Dude, eating in a restaurant every night is not what normal people do. That's why there's a thing called cooking.
>>710756065
Nigger you sell to dope for a living, stfu about fiscal responsibility.
>>710755003
Learn a skill or get a second job.
20 y/o moved out a year ago, worked 2 jobs , made 2400$ a month, worked 4pm-8 am sometimes, who needs a social life, going to college now.
>>710770122
>get a second job.
yes
see >>710768849 for details
>>710763299
>Left home at 26
>Had a full-time job and was out much so parents and me not on eachothers backs all the time
>Saved since 22 since I had a full-time job and lived with parents
>Easily save 1000 euros a month on a 1500 euro salary
>Bought house half a year ago, low mortgage cause it's only 50℅ of the total value or the house, rest with my own money
>had money to spare to fix it right away and have some left over money
>Everything new
>Bought a new 4K TV last month
>Just got a gtx1080 gpu delivered to house
>Spend roughly 600 on mortgage, gas water and electricity a month
>Can still save 400 a month
>Go out every weekend
Maybe you should've tried harder when you were young
>>710759914
The average age of someone working a minimum wage job is 35, your're thinking of the 1950's.
>>710760720
>>710760911
The transition to automation is already well underway in the manufacturing Industry. Further, in the next five years, it's predicted that 5% of all jobs will be lost to automation, specifically in the form of delivery services and customer support. Trucking and postal services are slated to be the first to go, and just this month the first self-driving trucks will be making their first deliveries. If I had to guess, the next industries to be affected will be customer service, education, and software development. However, I don't view this as necessarily a bad thing. In my opinion, with appropriate global policy changes and regulation to ensure poverty rates do not rise, this could be a beneficial and welcome change to our society.
>>710770557
faggot coddled OP blew her chance at free money. doh! now she needs to blow cocks to feed her alcohol habbit.
see: >>710768849
>>710770718
THIS
holy fuck are people on this board so stuck in their own rich lifestyles that they don't realize that the average person doesn't make much more than minimum wage
Holy shit, I get more neetbux than that. RIP OP.
>>710755003
Get a girlfriend or friends.
You probably got kicked out for lashing out on your parents n didn't do shit about the house.
>>710770205
>2 jobs
>spend all of your waking hours working
nope
>>710763568
I know you're not aware of this, but you sound like the most out of touch piece of shit on earth right now.
>>710771250
Most people can't see things from other peoples point of view, especially rich spoiled people
>>710771250
>be me
>be millionaire (in b4 blah blah hurr durr)
>realize it's hard to get by when you start out
>not easy
>but a faggot's got to be smart, thrifty and find way to get ahead
doesn't happen overnight and only because you wish it, faggot
>for instance, live with parents for 8 years
>SAVE $800 a month for future, don't BLOW $800 a month on drink
time to get smart or stay poor, faggot.
>>710771250
Nope. I work as a janitor at a convolecent home and get $11 an hour. My girlfriend, me n her mom live on a 1 bedroom apartment.
Just enrolled into school though, and studying to become a personal nutritionists.
They make decent cash. Get rich fucks to pay you on what to eat n working out.
>>710757013
I do this everyday and still drink myself into debt
>>710771929
Yeah this fucking guy spent almost his whole income on ALCOHOL. Like really nigger of course you're broke as fuck in the real world considering not many people can afford 800 a month on alcohol
>>710770122
Yep.
>>710772074
Kek iktf bro I spend 25 dollars a day drinking alone and even more on weekends because I don't have to worry about being hungover on weekends
>>710771250
>>710771012
>>710770718
>>710755003
Find a job that doesn't suck and live in a place that isn't expensive as shit? I make $1000 a week as a server at a restaurant and my rent, utilities included is $300 with a room mate, $500 without a room mate.
>>710771662
6 hours of sleep a day, yep
>>710772389
Holy fuck this is accurate. Almost everyone I work with is 15+ years older than me and I'm 22
>>710772389
So if they're paid minimum wage, how are they making more than half their families total income?
>>710772198
single malt for my bros yo! I got money for DAYZ.
oh, what's that now? I have to pay rent?
>WAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
>>710772703
Probably disability/welfare pay to other family members. Even with minimum wage pay being pitifully small, it's oftentimes more than any government support that those in poverty can get.
>>710773237
Disability pays 1100 here and working minimum wage pays 1600 a month at 430 a week at 40 hrs a week
>>710773711
goddamnit.. got cut off
>>710756294
Bro im living in burlington ontario
I lived in hamilton for 5 years been here for 2 years
You need to grow up and learn to budget
Been living on my own sense 19. 27 now. Its not impossible.
> ITT entitled butthurt millennials
>>710774195
idiot
>>710755003
By not living in America.
>>710774434
Where would you recommend?
>>710758007
Get a second job. you don't have to have only one.
>>710755003
It's not your fault OP. The economy is fucked.
I live in the UK (south) and earn £31k.
According to www.ifs.org.uk/wheredoyoufitin/ I earn more than 85% of the population.
The bank recently told me I don't earn enough to buy a shitty one bed apartment.
tfw I did everything I was supposed to do but will never earn enough to start a family.
>>710761721
such a fucking leech. I bet you don't help around the house either
>>710760395
Suuuuuure
Taxes gonna go up soon. Trudeau leaving us with the bill and Wynne got us fucked for our electricity rates. Cost of living gonna be 25K while the peasents only make 22K
>>710760434
Thats just how it is. Move to Hamilton if you cant afford Toronto.
>>710775098
The whole world's fucked
>>710775098
Wow I didn't realize so many people have that low of an income
>>710775098
You've got to take matters into your own hands, faggot. Find ways to make money on the side. Sooner or later everyone will have to have some entrepreneurial skills once most work is automated.
>>710762042
Dont have children. They will make you poor and will never live a life beyond the ghetto. Richc sucfessful people should have kids. They can provide better education and take care of them. Having kids is a privledge notna basic right that everyone should exercise.
>>710775663
If all work is automated than entrepreneurial skill won't mean shit, at that point the obvious solution will be a extremely high corporate tax rate and universal basic income.
>>710775911
Yes it will you autist. You will have to learn how to produce content and solve problems rather than always consume and rely on other people.
>>710756855
Being 3 years than someone matters when your in grade school, dumb fuck.
>>710776026
>all work
>not knowing what ALL work means
I'll give you producing content, but past that, no.
>>710775627
The high point in that graph (around £250 per week) is someone working full time on min wage.
This is why min wage is so important. It's not about kids with summer jobs, its about the majority of the population trying to raise a family on fuck all money.
>>710755003
Apply for a better job mate.
>>710771662
>>710772465
Gotta pay your dues to adult, faggot. it doesn't get handed to you.
>be smart or be poorfag for life
>>710775729
Totally agree
>>710777397
Yea, but, have you ever thought about how fucked up this system really is? Sure, it's better than some times and systems of the past, yet...You spend over 66% of your entire life either working or sleeping, up to 80% if you're like OP and have to work extra jobs or overtime. Retirement age is 65.
-65-, when you're too old and frail to enjoy the one thing we were supposed to be doing all along, living, not slaving away. Every morning I wake up and although I know people have it much worse, when you can't even get your superiors to respect you properly and understand that you're a human being with basic needs, this is also no way to live.
>>710777133
This
Most people work minimum wage which is why it should be raised
>>710755003
U vote Trump, aight?
>>710778026
Donald, Wages are Too High, Trump?
>>710778026
I live in canada it will never be affordable to live here
>>710755003
>Be me
>21
>Assistant general manager at restaurant
>$2200 a month salary
>All expenses on my own apartment are about $950
>drive a fucking awesome car
>Still have money for warhammer models
>Rumor mill starting that I might get my own restaurant soon
When I started out at my job, I washed dishes for $450 a month and lived with my parents who took most of that as rent. You just have to keep going. Fight your way up and reach for the things you want.
>>710777927
This
>>710755003
Learn some coding, m80, it will guarantee you a promising spot even right now let alone the near future. If you have nothing to lose, you might as well do that with your time. It's shockingly easy to get hired by someone who needs a website developed professionally, startups or other established places with salaries over $60k at entry level if you apply to everything and demonstrate you know what you're doing. Less than an hour a day will itself go a long way, you don't have to suffer. The ways are out there, you have to grab them yourself.
>>710777927
5 days a week morning till night just to be able to eat ramen noodles and peanut butter almost has me at suicide tier thinking
>>710777927
Fucking hell...This is why whenever I have a chance for greed, I take it...when you really think about it this is probably why so many people just don't give a shit about important things like elections anymore
>>710761005
This