post yfw Trump is elected next week and puts the Crooked Clintons in jail.
but he's not
>>709960774
>>709961002
dont be a faggot
If Trump does get into power the first thing he will do is end all the investigations into his good pal Hillary!
https://youtu.be/tKugbaoPJ7A
>>709960774
I wish but I think it will be too hard. He would have to win almost all battleground states while Hillary only has to win a few. Not to mention democrats bussing people in from the ghettos to vote for them
>>709961399
>blacks voting
kek
>>709960774
Has anyone seen this yet? Clinton supporters attack homeless Trump supporter lady.
https://youtu.be/mFOfmzlXLBk
Pretty much the same face if even Hillary won, because my life is seldom affected by whoever is in the Oval Office.
>>709960774
The faces of autism.
>>709961550
ye it was tits
>>709961160
*when
>>709961002
he is, how out of it are you?
>>709961550
>imagine if it were a black women defending Hillary
>shitstorm.jpg
>>709961550
>>709961568
>>709961510
you're forgetting about spics anon, they're letting illegals vote and there's more of them than blacks. In fact they will be majority in 15 years. Once TX turns blue because of them the USA will never be the same
>>709961550
what the fuck....
>>709961736
the funny thing is these are 100% true.
>>709961675
Kek
>>709961399
And it's a lot easier for Democrats to cast their vote.
Considering Trump wants to end the Separation of Church and State, I'm surprised so many /b/tards and /pol/lacks are behind him.
>have fun going to church 3 days a week
>mandatory
>>709962315
Pretentious fagit
>>709962315
>butt
>>709962463
proof? Better than being forced to become muslim
>>709962467
how? most of those are spot on. You don't know what pretentious means lol
>>709960774
Presidential hopefuls feed anti establishment and corruption rhetoric
>Threatens to jail political rivals
Is there honestly anything he could say to lose your vote?
>>709961550
Prove she didn't start it.
>>709962628
That hes gay
>>709962555
that's really bad. did you make it or just get it from reddit? /pol/ memes are the best
>>709962574
http://politicalresearchdatabase.tumblr.com/post/152474900937
>The new president will force us to become Muslim
You people said the same thing 8 years ago, and you're still not Muslim.
>>709962628
no, becuase he's running against clinton
>>709962182
Wtf is this bullshit
>>709962698
that's not relevant. surrounding and beating up an old lady is despicable, and liberals really are at an all time low.
>>709962574
>>709962809
Realizing that last source was tumblr, here are a few more.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/7/17/1549065/-The-Johnson-Amendment-what-it-is-and-why-Trump-wants-to-abolish-it
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/separation-of-church-and-state/
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/topics/separation-of-church-and-state/
>>709962628
Not to mention he begged a foreign government to get involved in the election and sabotage a political rival. Pretty sure that's high treason, but hey...
>MAGA
>>709962463
Are you retarded? the man is the embodiment of narcissism. Religion is a joke to him.
>>709962967
fake and gay
>>709960774
HALLELUJAH!!!
>>709962959
When playing the victim card nothing is irrelevant.
>>709963115
Of course it is, but not to his followers. He knows how to play on the heart-strings of his followers and tell them everything they want to hear, without anything of substance, and still secure votes. That's how he's gotten this far.
>this whole thing reminds me of when Peter and Lois were competing to be mayor
>>709963099
When did he beg a foreign government? i think you're confusing him with clinton who took millions from the saudi government. liberals really are fucking morons.
ie>>709962967
please tell me you are trolling
>>709963099
I like Tim.
I'd much rather have his VP Mike Pence in office than Trump, but he's a hell of alot better than Shillary and her Jew cronies
Better than this stupid cunt
>>709963337
cool. good to know liberal scum endorse the bullying and abuse of an old black woman.
>>709963365
>He knows how to play on the heart-strings of his followers and tell them everything they want to hear
first election cycle, huh?
>>709963409
>Russia, if you're llistening, I hope you're able to find...
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/07/27/trump_to_russia_i_hope_youre_able_to_find_clintons_30000_missing_emails.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/28/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-clinton-emails.html?_r=0
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/07/27/trump-russia-if-youre-listening-i-hope-youre-able-to-find-the-30000-emails-that-are-missing/
Or did you miss that one?
>>709963550
No, but I've never seen a candidate beg and whine nearly as much as Trump. It's like a kid throwing a tantrum for a toy that his mom keeps saying "no" to buying for him.
>>709963456
>jooz r byad
>>709963456
If he wins, it'll essentially be Pence running the country. Trump has shown no real interest in making policy, and when asked about policy defaults to his own greatness. He just wants the limelight.
>>709960774
>>apartheid
>>nerve gas
>>ww3
>>economic collapse
>>mass hysteria
>>ebolaids
>>illuminati
>>709962182
>republicans actually believe this
even better: the Hillary shills in this thread totally grasping at straws trying to redirect the narrative
CTR late shift isn't worth a shit. you guys need to go back to sleep or snort some coke or something.
>>709963699
that's not begging, that was an offhand comment overblown by the shill msm as usual.
And there is a massive difference of the modern political definition of liberal and the little picture you posted there. The pic was cute though.
>>709963699
>No, but I've never seen a candidate beg and whine nearly as much as Trump.
Ya, because it's your first election. I can tell you're barely old enough to vote
>>709963741
you dont like trump so of course you dont listen to him when he talks. He's been talking about his policies since the beginning of summer. he even has a list of supreme court justices he wants
>>709960774
Reminder that Nike=Nigger+kike
>>709963910
>>709964052
>offhand comments
Are not made behind a podium when you're in front of thousands of supporters.
>it's your first election
I'm in my late-20s. Try again. I'm willing to bet that like most Trump supporters, you barely even knew who he was or cared before all of this.
>>709963901
>it was made by republicans and spread on social media by idiotic democrats who believed it
/pol/ is incredible
CTR SHILLS GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>709964329
>it's not infront of any of the eyes...
>>709964218
>Are not made behind a podium when you're in front of thousands of supporters.
when youre trump they are. it's like youve never seen him speak. he's not a politician...
>I'm in my late-20s.
cool so you're just really stupid. What does how long I've known him for have to do with anything?
please stop with these garbage memes, theyre pure cringe
Mfw
poor ctr, they work so hard....
>>709964423
Of course I've seen/heard him speak. That's how I know he's really not mentally (or otherwise) fit for presidency. As you're aware, there is no backspace in real life; say the wrong thing, and you can't go back and say
>it's just an offhand, locker-room comment
>you're just really stupid
Of course you'd take *that* route. But anyway, how long you've known him *does* make a difference, especially when you're so eager to get behind a man who can barely string together a coherent sentence about policy.
Remember eight years ago when you people were bashing Obama for 'not having experience' (not that he had been a senator or anything prior)? Why, then, do you laud Trump for actually not having any political experience, let alone basic knowledge?
>>709964588
nice
>>709964767
>saving the thumbnail
>>709964052
what the heck is wrong with that dog?
>>709964748
we can call ourselves whatever we want. Trump will be president so you can suck it faggot
>>709964588
Poor Trumpanzees--they try so hard to be relevant despite the fact they are immune to polling and logic. They're going to be crying SO hard after election day. Poor, poor, stupid Trumpanzees. My heart goes out to them (even though they tried to destroy this wonderul nation).
>>709964218
$2.37 billion was authorized for security in a bi-partisan bill.
This is more than the entire defense budget of a lot of countries.
It was up to the State Department to determine how to spend it and what embassies to keep open.
They chose to keep open the most dangerous one in the least stable country and give it no money.
Who was running the State Department?
Hillary Clinton.
>>709960774
>>709964748
>Of course you'd take *that* route
well, ya, you're a fucking moron.
Seriously though, stop with these fucking awful memes. It's like you're trying to prove my point.
>>709964907
Wishful thinking, and an insult to boot. The battlecry of a defeated Trump supporter.
>>709964830
my bad
>>709960774
Do me a favor and check out the Las Vegas bookie odds on the outcome of the election. THEN come to me claiming the Herr Drumpf has a snowball's chance in Tucson of winning jack shit.
>>709961550
Regardless of who wins the election, they're going to have half the country opposing them and the other half.
Social cohesion is only going down from here.
And this is evidence.
>>709964896
it was a baby torn from the womb. so much for liberal compassion
>>709964977
lol
>>709965001
And yet still, the Republican Congress blocked the budget for tighter security in that embassy. Can't secure it if there aren't any funds to do so.
>lessons we forgot about from Rwanda
>>709964977
what an incredible poorly written argument.
>>709964977
haha yeah right kid. keep believing your fairy tale if it helps you sleep. Trump is at his highest approval right now, 30% of undecided voters say the new fbi scandal has changed their minds about hillary. Trump is leading in ohio with early voting. hahahaha
Right now it's not going to happen. Trumps only path to victory is to flip a blue state that's tough. If he's smart he looks to spend every dime and minute he has in NH to flip the state. That's his only hope.
Oh HRC will win.
It's over CTR. Back to jacking off to lolis and consuming of tendies.
4chan has been hilarious for so many years. I mean, the fingerbox stuff, and tricks to make your computer faster. The Trump support just fits right in. It's just more hilarious trolling. Because, surely anyone who is listening to the words that the candidates say...would have to say Trump is mentally deficient or at least a charlatan. It's just "oh just wait til you see my plan, you've never SEEN such a great plan! Oh boy you betcha" -- it's complete idiocy.
It's like, one candidate is a fucking grown-up who can put together three sentences. The other one is a shaved monkey.
So what I am saying is: come on, you've been here for a while, try trolling a little more subtly. Bring some art to your craft.
>>709965095
Clinton is crashing and burning right now. She's falling apart even before the emails in the last few days. Early voting turn outs have her falling behind almost everywhere.
>>709960774
>>709965046
>Wishful thinking
its logic at this point. this weekend pretty much confirmed his victory. clinton nosedived, even in the D+11 polls shilled by her corporate msm donors
>>709965046
get used to it because you will have to say that for the next 4 years. hahaha loser
>>709961568
>that retardation when subhuman Trumpettes think that Clinton is simultaneously an incompetent idiot who can't even handle an email account and some kind of shady, ruthless secret mafia final boss who can have people killed to further her career.
Here's a new vocabulary word for you fuckwits: "mutually-exclusive".
I just come here to laugh at the lies and idiotic arguments that CTR tries to sell.
>>709965173
>>709965175
>m-muh republicans
>it's not hillarys fault
good you're a fucking moron
>>709961736
>Commit massive voter fraud
TOP KEK
>>709965290
Trump has been doing so well in Wisconsin, Clinton is campaigning there next week.
>>709961550
Clinton supporters are such racist degenerates.
>>709965173
This meme sux. Bill's girls were all willing. Republican's are p jeal because they're all cucks that turned to liking boipucci
>>709965290
you have ohio and florida wrong
>>709965310
>b-but muh CNN polls
>d-drumpf is le orange bigot
>m-muh russian hacks
this is all the democrats have at this point.
>>709965455
I mean everyone was shitting themselves when it happened to Bernie....
>>709962182
>butthurt GOP/Trumpette bullshit
>Always forgetting that shit like this only works on REPUBLICANS because liberals are actually educated and halfway intelligent.
>>709960774
I'm gonna have to BUILD WALL but i will build it happily because i know globalism has been slowed down at least a little bit.
>>709965337
Calling someone a 'faggot' and throwing out an assumption about who you hope will win the election is hardly what anyone would call 'logic.'
>>709965345
>A few days old...actually looks worse for Don today.
>>709965569
And all you have are
>e-mails that prove nothing
Keep beating that dead horse.
>>709965499
stop victim blaming you nigger
>>709965407
saved
>>709965468
7 points in the all up polling in WI for HRC is hard to flip with a week to go. Not saying he can't but honestly not likely.
http://www.270towin.com/2016-polls-clinton-trump/wisconsin/
>>709962555
This is largely true but it has one VERY important key difference:
The fringe retards on the left (college hippie liberal SJWs) are our MINORITY.
The fringe retards on the right are your BASE. (SEE: Southern Strategy and the 1970s polarization of the evangelicals into right wing politics).
>>709965600
>updated
>>709965600
>>709965798
>he thinks Clinton will win
>>709965669
>e-mails that prove nothing
wut
you're trolling now, there's no way you're actually serious.
Oh ya, you're a fat CTR faggot with no life, nevermind
Emails were gamechanging.
>>709965600
polls can't be trusted. And you are a faggot, it's logic/.
>>709965681
The only victims are morons like you that actually believe these haphazardly slapped together image macros and memes contain a shred of truth. But one anon calling you out on your stupidity on this god forsaken imageboard won't convince you otherwise. So, carry on, retard.
>>709965669
>supports Hillary Clinton who has made hundreds of millions of dollars through her "non-profit" organization, and giving private speeches to elitist bankers
>dislikes Trump who has made hundreds of millions of dollars by starting businesses, creating jobs, and making smart trade deals.
>>709965912
>guys all bernie needs is california and hes set
So we had to get very, very tough on cyber and cyber warfare. It is a huge problem. I have a son—he’s 10 years old. He has computers. He is so good with these computers. It’s unbelievable. The security aspect of cyber is very, very tough. And maybe, it's hardly doable. But I will say, we are not doing the job we should be doing. But that’s true throughout our whole governmental society. We have so many things that we have to do better, Lester. And certainly cyber is one of them.
>>709965669
I'm loving all of the evidence in the claims stated in your picture, faggot.
>>709965916
>e-mails were gamechanging
>not that I can prove anything, but they were
>still beating that horse
I'm starting to think you people are just afraid of being lead by a strong woman, so you prefer a weak old 'businessman'
>>709965551
Not sure what you're talking about. The map has FL and OH as a toss up. Okay give them to Trump. They aren't blue states. She still has her base of blue states and wins.
He essentially has to win every Red, every brown and flip one Blue. Not saying it's impossible but history shows this country is much more moderate that the press and fringe spokesman out there. We elected Obama twice. For one of those Blue states to turn Red is tough. I'd say he trys super hard for NH.
She on the other hand just need to hold he Blue and win NC, game over with NC as the slam dunk.
>>709965974
I don't believe the images, i believe the facts, which are everywhere if you're not a reatrded democrat shill. write a blog about it faggot, im not reading the rest.
>>709965991
>Trump made hundreds of millions
Through fraud, embezzlement, and tax evasion.
>creating jobs
In China, Mexico, and Bangladesh
>smart trade deals
Lost a billion in a surplus economy. Even managed to bankrupt a casino.
But, tell me, can you even afford anything with the name "Trump" on it? Ever stay a night at any one of Trump's hotels, or eat a Trump Steak (before it went defunct)?
>>709965227
Here's the problem with employing the double-edged sword of open poll manipulation, /pol/.
When you alt-rightie retards ADMIT FREELY to doing everything you can to shift polls and spam approval ratings collection points, you can't just turn around and cite your own doctored values as a resource or evidence for reality. It simply doesn't work that way.
>>709966104
And yet, you have nothing proving to the contrary.
>>709966124
>cuba
Fuck off hippie, the commies had nukes there and you know it.
It's really quite remarkable that given the powerful enemies that Hillary Clinton has had, over the past 25 years, that she has never been prosecuted for anything. Stop for a second and think -- holy shit, the amount of firepower arrayed against her. Senators, judges, lobbyists, lawyers...holy shit.
She is truly a mastermind, isn't she, to have so carefully hidden all those murders, all that graft. It's astonishing.
>>709961002
/thread
>>709966336
Quoted 4 truth
>>709965114
That ship has sailed somewhere in the 60s with the forms to immigration. They made this situation inevitable. The only question now is who is going to control the state when stuff starts falling apart because it gives them a huge advantage in an almost inevitable conflict.
>>709965173
>baby from a womb
Then, by definition, it was not a baby, faggot.
It was a fetus. A non-living, life-potentiated pre-organism that fulfills barely half of the list of biological requirements to be considered viable.
(HINT: in humans, the point of viability is around the 7th month of gestation. Any time before that, it's fucking nothing and not to dissimilar to a growth within the woman's body--as it's contained fully within her, it's her choice to elect to keep or remove it. HER. CHOICE.)
Now fuck off and pick up a science textbook you crybaby piece of shit.
>>709966482
So does China, North Korea, and as did the Soviet Union. Yet we did nothing against them, nor did they, to us.
But you do realize the Cold War's over, right?
>>709966283
the clinton foundation is literally under a criminal fbi investigation right now
> record
> NOT corrected
>>709965186
>incredible
>poorly
How does I into Englisch Conjugayshun?
>>709966124
>beating that horse
>which altered the course of the election
>which is still destroying hillary as we speak
>he actually thinks i care about proving anything to his fat shill ass
i bet you're really ugly and have a fat girlfriend too. You're a moron if you think the email aren't gamechanging, not worth my time.
>I'm starting to think
that's a first
>>709966661
As is Trump, for rape, embezzlement, fraud (Trump University especially) and even insurance fraud.
>>709966713
Oh look, more of that sophisticated, well-informed, Rightist counter-arguing.
>>709965310
Then go put your entire life's savings into Trump winning. 600x payout, motherfucker. Put your money where your fat mouth is or just admit you're a retard.
>>709965320
4x bankruptcy + the shutdown of his casino and his "University"
>winning
Pick one.
>>709966871
Bankruptcy =/= endgame
>>709966713
>emails
>destroying Hillary as we speak
My god, you hear about people living under rocks, but when you actually see it...
>>709966798
the problem is he is not under investigation at all, in anyway, at all, by the fbi, at all, in anyway, or any other justice department, at all, in anyway
>>709965584
so you are saying you are republican?
>>709966976
>anyway
>>709966532
Didya maybe, just maybe... ever once, if even in passing... just ONCE, humor the thought that maybe all of these "crimes" didn't actually... you know... occur? That maybe Fox News, Alex Jones, Matt Drudge, and a litany of other outright liars, conspiracy theorists, and alt-right yellow journalists, that have in the past LITERALLY STOPPED AT NOTHING to smear whomever they don't like, truth and fact completely notwithstanding... maybe just made this shit up to give FUCKING idiots like yourself something to mindlessly spout out? How soft is your fucking brain tissue?
>>709966396
>>709966336
>>709966283
>>709966552
>>709966560
The record has been corrected!
>>709966642
not for clinton
>>709966623
didn't read lol. the sheer amount of text suggests you are extremely triggered and therefor unable to discuss rationally
>>709966685
wow look another faggot that thinks hes witty
>>709960774
>>709964588
Remember kids, anyone who disagrees with you is a paid shill. Well known fact.
>>709967048
(psst, yes, that was my point, i'm trying to see if I can get the trump supporters to think a little bit. But I accidentally snared you. so sorry)
>>709966798
>he's still implying he's worth arguing with
did that fat gf comment touch a nerve?
>>709967215
You did. Your trap was well laid and authentic in nature, to be honest.
>>709965412
>that image
Oh the irony
>>709966941
>>709967174
The record has been corrected !
Do Trumpfags still believe he has a chance?
Or am I just falling for OP's memes?
>>709967220
No, since I'm not in my teens anymore.
>>709966805
/thread.
Those are insanely awesome odds, people.
For ANYONE who genuinely thinks Trump is going to win, this is a no brainer.
>>709967365
and you'd know all about irony with you worhtless liberal arts degree, right?
did you know arts students are far more stupid than STEM students? no wonder they're more liberal
t. chem engineering student
>>709960774
>>709962463
>>709966929
Bankruptcy = complete and utter business failure
>>709960774
>>709967470
>>709967538
DRUMPF IS FINISHED!!
>>709967470
rolling for this
>>709962315
It's almost as if people who identify as liberal can disagree on certain subjects. Are you trolling? I'm not sure you're doing the best that you can be.
I also don't think most of those hyperbolic statements on the right are anything but strawman arguments.
>>709967121
>>709966336
>logical non biased argument
>"muh ctr!!"
>>709967594
not at all. you're a fucking moron, just stop.
>>709967594
Wowee, get a load of this guy..... Should I explain what Title 11 bankruptcy is?
>>709967594
This isn't true. WHat if the business climbes out of bankruptcy and end with substantial growth due to over investment on research and development.
Trumpsters BTFO again. This didn't quite go as OP intended.
Nor the election, as Donald intended.
Now I can go watch some Stargate in peace.
>>709967422
Keep crying faggot
>>709967799
>Stargate
My nigga.
>>709967725
it probably sounded better in your head..
>>709967707
nice meme faggot. not.
>>709967728
don't waste your time on bluepilled redditors/ctr
>>709966798
Ever noticed that certain people love to add shit pictures to every post they make. It's always a distinct group. Often times they serve no purpose but increasing the visibility and aren't even related to what they're posting. Almost as bad as their "ironic" bad shit post pepes they recently came up with.
>>709966941
These. Weird!
>>709966283
Boy, those Russians sure must like to hear Billy Bob speak.
>>709963099
That tweet is real and is an actual embarrassment, but it was never actually deleted, that was a hoax.
>>709967849
hi ben
>>709967799
Yes, fellow intelligent friend. The ambrosia will flow most assuredly starting on November 8. Rest assured. The retardican tears will be bountiful and all is right with the world again.
>>709967906
Mature
>the character
represents feminine strength, so it was relevant as the 'men' in here are clearly terrified of it.
>>709960774
Just don't make fun of lil' don don.
>>709967904
You're probably right. These kids need to fucking learn basic finances though.
>>709964052
Woah what's going on here?
>>709962555
>SJWs hate liberalism
Wtf is this bullshit?
>>709960774
>Mfw Trump is elected
>>709964052
That's later than 2 months you flaming faggotini.
>>709968150
liberal compassion
>>709968026
>ctr
>intelligent
lol k
>>709968112
Revealing Donald's inconsistency at this point is like reminding us the sky is blue. The faggot sometimes switches positions midspeech.
>>709968196
cool then it's even more fucked up
>>709961510
dude once hillary gives the illegals a path to citizenship it's legit all over. Demographics is our destiny
It's actually legitimately ronald raegan's fault. He legalized a shitload of mexicans and look at california now, blue forever
it's only a matter of time
>>709963910
Yup
>>709968315
wrong.
>>709968112
>Alec Baldwin portrayal stinks
TOP FUCKING KEK!
No, Don-Don. It's actually a fucking PERFECT portrayal, you butthurt whiny cunt.
>>709960774
>>709961736
>"I've never heard of a sweeping generalization, but I really hate it when people imply all republicans are racist misogynist assholes, just because some of them are!"
>>709968437
DUDE EPIC!! DRUMPF BTFO!!
>>709968369
>legalized Mexicans
>look at California
You DO know that most of the Hispanic populations of California, Arizona, Texas and New Mexico were actually Mexican nationals who just happened to be "inland" when the US took those territories, right?
>>709963199
Supposedly there's footage of him raping a 13 year old on Epstein's private jet
>>709968627
>some
The vast majority, actually, seeing how the GOP hasn't been a legitimately conservative political party in over 30 years.
This fits right here. Hillary ctr fags secret weapon
>i am moving to canada if trump wins
What's wrong with moving to Mexico?
Trump: 1
Democrats: 0
Hillary Clinton advertisement calls Trump autistic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwjCU7qNCeM
>>709966941
Good job referencing the polls as though it were a valid argument against supporting Trump
[$.05 has been deposited into your account]
>>709967904
I'm not sure what meme you're talking about, and I'm even less sure how it relates to the point I'm making. When you called me a faggot, it falls neatly into an ad hominem, which doesn't necessarily mean you're wrong, it just means you're not doing the best you can at representing your side.
I think you're trying to troll, but I'm still not fully convinced either way.
>>709968960
Hillary doesn't need a secret weapon. She's already got Trump. No one needs ANYTHING to beat that fat tub of shit. #EasyModePresidency
>>709965669
Kek what a faggot you are
>>709969167
Faker than a $40 bill.
>>709969193
i was talking about the retarded little picture i didnt even bother opening.
Nice paragraph, I'm sure someone will bother reading past the first sentence at some point.
>>709963910
"Anyone with a political difference of opinion from me is just a paid shill!"
low energy post, very sad samefagging
>>709968994
This argument falls flat every time.
No Liberal has ever said Mexico wasn't shit.
In fact we are glad its shit because it give America a steady flow of cheap labor for jobs real Americans don't want to do.
>>709966482
JFK said "This is as bad as us having a base in Germany or something."
Awkaward pause, then his staff explained that there was.
Nuclear war came to a cough away from happening, was stopped by a russian refusing the order to launch nukes.
Look that shit up.
>>709968331
Also worth pointing out, at that point (~10-12 weeks) it doesn't have a developed frontal lobe and is not sentient nor has the cognisant component of pain recognition; it's essentially a vegetable with only reflex reactions that don't involve the brain. Brain development will really kick off around ~20th week, and sensory input happens around week 30. Until this point though, the baby has no reaction to outside stimuli besides the reflex arc (which doesn't involve the brain).
I don't really care what your beliefs are, but I do have a problem with you being misinformed. There are some studies that argue that pain recognition occurs earlier, but they are extremely tenuous and often has significant conflicts of interest.
>>709964105
He says, "I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that, it's gonna be great, you'll be real impressed at how smart and awesome I am!" but he never actually outlines a plan or says how.
>>709969386
So true. The Alt-righties have such pathetic arguments.
In a way, the revelation of the existence of CTR was a godsend for us. It does a fantastic job of showing us all how retarded the Trumpanzees are.
>Lost another argument because you're dumber than a brick? No problem! Just shout "hurr durr shill CTR" and you AUTOMATICALLY WIN!!
>>709969235
was losing the election by a landslide part of her plan?
>>709969454
You mean somewhere cheap to run factories employing basically slave labor.
US has never wanted cheap workers IN the country, just a Maquiladora Zone with no rules to exploit poors JUST OUTSIDE the country.
For some people, NAFTA rocks. Pity you could fit em all into a private jet without tootin the horn.
>>709966050
Good job. You win one presidency
>>709968421
I hope Trump hangs all of them in times square when he becomes potus.
>>709966124
>Hillary
>strong woman
>>709969379
I'm confused. Did you or didn't you open it? If you didn't, how could you say it wasn't a nice meme?
My response was 68 words. The average human can read at speeds of over 200 words per minute.
Unless you're a very slow reader, it would take more time to fill out the captcha than it would to read my response.
I still think you're trolling, or at least trying to.
>>709969552
The smarter/less crazy Trump supporters are starting to notice that. If they felt left behind and played before, after the election is going to be bad for millions.
>>709969516
good so it feels no pain when it is ripped from the womb. what about late term abortions where there puncture the skull and suck out the brain until the skull collapses and they dismember it inside the mother?
>>709969618
>getting called out on being a nazi-style propaganda force was a good thing
never change, you dumb ctr faggots
>>709966685
Kek
>>709962574
>Better than being forced to become muslim
You see, you're an idiot because you think this is a legitimate argument.
>>709966283
how much would it cost to have hillary come and give a speech in my town?
>>709969951
i didnt open it, i just said that
>>709970171
and you're an idiot either way
>>709969998
>what about late term abortions where there puncture the skull and suck out the brain until the skull collapses and they dismember it inside the mother?
That's done to save a mother's life, the Choctaw Indians used to do that. Nobody supports the idea of late term abortion as a form of contraception. You're saying your opponent is more extreme than they are. That kind of procedure is as life threatening as childbirth.
>>709967707
They are all straw man arguements.
>>709969928
>GOP has been full-throttle trying to politically assassinate her for 30 years
>basically unfazed
>FLOTUS, SecState, Senator
She's pretty damn strong bruh.
>Know your enemy
>If you underestimate your foe, you have already lost.
Sun Tzu.
>>709970271
Reading comprehension must not be one of your strengths.
>>709970429
nope
>>709963199
Good thing he's not running for president
>>709970271
What's wrong? Namecalling over the internet is a sign that something might be wrong in a person's life. Did you get fired? Did you go through a breakup? I'd like to hear about it, and from the way you're posting it seems like you have something big against liberals.
>>709970552
I didn't even bother to read your replies....that's the whole point you fucking dumbass.
>>709960774
Pls Trump
>>709970271
>>709970171
>You're an idiot!
>No, YOU'RE an idiot!
>You shutup!
>No, YOU shutup! You people should be taken out and shot!
Americans discussing anything important.
The way to defeat you is to put you in a situation where you have to co-operate.
>>709970588
bad thing his wife is and he'd be in the white house if she somehow won
>>709970648
>What's wrong
you're an idiot, i already told you....
>>709970904
>implying trump isn't a global phenomenon
No you shut up
>>709970906
I'm not the one you called the idiot, silly. I'm the one you called the faggot. And I mean seriously, you seem upset about something in real life to the point where you're lashing out at people who disagree with you politically on the internet. What's wrong? I'm here for you to talk.
>>709965300
>>709971108
Ah, my mistake, faggot
>>709970999
epic trips
gonna put that on one of the many giant collages to post after Trump gets flushed.
>>709961953
Not that it will matter much, but I'm Mexican and voting for Trump... Yeah, you're right, they're putting up billboards up in Spanish to vote and an awful lot of Shillary commercials on the Mexican channels.
>>709971217
I feel like you're dodging the question. I don't want you to be this angry, you should find a different outlet for all of that frustration somehow.
>>709971306
based mexibro
>>709971239
cool!
>>709971376
>I feel like you're dodging the question.
did the possibility of me not giving a rats shit about anything you have to say not pass through your tiny brain?
>>709970561
Wow. Solid comeback. You really convinced me. You know why evolutions is made up? The bible says so.
>>709971217
>>709971376
Anyway, I'm gonna go to bed. In the morning, I'm going to eat, go to classes, take a nap, and then have sex with a girl I met a few weeks ago. On Nov. 8th I'm voting for Clinton.
I hope you sort out whatever's wrong with you. There's already enough hate in the world.
love,
-faggot
>>709971742
Aww, the butthurt Trumpanzees can't into Photoshop. So sad.
>>709969998
>good so it feels no pain when it is ripped from the womb. what about late term abortions where there puncture the skull and suck out the brain until the skull collapses and they dismember it inside the mother?
You're trying to bait me, but idm. Let's look at it:
A baby is born at around the 40th week, give or take. We established that recognition develops around the 30th week, which is 1/3 the way through the 3rd trimester. Late term abortions actually have no definition in medicine, and really is a buzzword thrown around by commentators.
So instead let's focus on the stats. In the US, 98.6% of all abortions before the 21st week - in which case, the foetus experiences no pain regardless of size or procedure.
Of that last 1.4%, most fall well before week 30 according to a dated paper by a US medical thinktank institute. In fact, they estimate that only 0.08% of all abortions were past week 26 in 1997.
So let's talk about the procedure itself: the skull of a foetus is actually extremely soft and easily penetrated, they won't feel the same level of excruciating pain a developed human would if someone tried to drive a shunt through their skull - it will feel pain though. Brain matter itself has no sensory neurons (hence why brain surgery is mostly conducted while the patient is awake and lucid), and so the rapid removal is painless and incredibly quick to minimise the pre-existing pain (by removing the pain signalling).
From there on, limb and tissue removal is admittedly a gorey job, but completely painless cos no brain to receive pain stimuli.
No why are they conducted? In Australia which requires a reason, most mothers elect for 'late abortions' because:
> they discover the child has a profound congenital defect that dramatically lowers QoL for both the parent and the child. In every single one of these cases, the parents WANTED the child.
> the mother's life is in significant danger if the pregnancy comes to term.
>>709960774
I'm a mail-in voter. I just cast my ballot for Hillary.
AMA
>>709971568
you're lucky i bothered replying tbh
>>709971609
stop replying
>>709971804
I stole this pic off /pol/ lol
>>709971828
>kill your child because it's sick
good to know
>>709970999
Trips speaks the truth
>>709960774
TFW trump is 100% gonna loose
>>709971828
"Partial birth" and "Late term" are right wing buzzwords, not medical terms.
Fetuses are not capable of feeling pain in the way we do. Their brains are offline for all cognitive function. They don't think. They don't have memories or the ability to log memory or trauma. They're braindead.
They aren't aware of abortion. They're just there one instant with the most basic form of "feeling" and response there is and then they're gone.
There are only two stances on this: the one that uses facts and the one that crybaby drooling retards on the right try to argue (but that's ok, because they don't fucking count).
>>709972109
>>709972151
so we should just kill all the severe retards by your logic?
>m-muh right wingers are bigots
ya, lets do it and rid the world of lib scum like you.
OP here. I'm loving the libtard tears and pathetic ctr shilling.
>mfw
>>709972109
>tfw
CRISIS AVERTED.
>>709962315
Nice straw man
>>709972045
Most of them will die within the first few years of life or are so intellectually disabled that the parents are physically and economically unable to care for them.
Rates of depression in parents who get these procedures are actually higher than women who miscarriage. It's devastating for them because they wanted this child.
But if that's the only part of my explanation you have a problem with then I'm happy you learnt something. If you are only upset by <0.08% of all abortions, and of which most are due to medical reasons, then reconsider your "pro-life" stance.
>>709972151
I'm well aware of that. Recognition of pain requires a cognitive component that doesn't come in until mid way through the late trimester when sensory connects have already been established - but it's worth noting that cognisance does develop in utero, even if it's at the very end.
I'm speaking more generally because I'm not sourcing this I'm trying to keep it super basic so that he can google what I'm saying and have to agree. I really cbf referencing a 4chan post.
>>709972295
No. People are given commonwealth protections and laws. If the thng you are referring to has ever been a viable, living human being, then it is deemed by the Social Contract as having value to society and it is protected by legal and ethical statutes.
Abortion =/= euthanasia.
Fetus =/= a person.
>>709962698
She dindu nuffin
>>709960774
Prediction: 100% going to happen.
>>709960774
>>709972545
it's not a strawman. its correctlypointing out doublethink.
>>709972655
killing babies is so liberal and progressive
>>709972644
Actually in humans, cognitive function isn't online until 1-2 weeks after birth. We're marvels of biology in that our heads are almost too big to birth and so a lot of the cerebral surface area is still in development for the first week or so (and why the head is soft then sutures shut.)
This is why procedures like circumcision and growth removal in newborns are done without anaesthetic or anaesthesia. They are biologically incapable of "remembering" the pain they experience as a trauma, therefore they're kind of technically already anaesthetized at birth.
>>709972705
the original had clinton instead of trump. her supporters are so shit they just steal our memes
>>709972705
I can't fucking wait.
Just think of how much the national average IQ will increase!
#ImWithHer
>>709960774
>>709973334
>killing
Erroneous use of term; inadmissible.
>babies
Erroneous use of term; inadmissible.
Come back here with those goalposts, asshole!
>>709973435
>Steal our memes
Do you have ANY idea how stupid you are being?
>mfw Hillary wins and a week later alt-right edgy faggots start dropping like flies.
I hope Milo is first and has a horrible and slow death.
>>709962315
SJWs. Are not. Liberals. You FUCKING retard.
>>709962809
Based molotov
>>709968112
Comments are more than a year apart.
>>709973367
I recall Oxford released a paper last year disputing this, stating that babies as young as 6 days old experienced pain the same way as adults. It's extremely contentious around this timeframe tbh, but I only have an undergrad level of understanding about this.
>>709973868
so?
>>709973891
actually here's the News and Views article on it.
http://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2015-04-21-babies-feel-pain-adults
>>709973868
Just like the one from last year predicting the future. Stay salty.
>>709974295
Or maybe this one.
>>709973891
They experience pain. They are medically incapable of remembering/logging it as trauma.
If you experience the worst, most horrendous pain in your life and then immediately after have no recollection or knowledge of it, guess what? It doesn't matter. This is actually how modern aneasthesia works. Your pain receptors are alive and well, your brain interprets the pain. You're just cut off from its signals and it cannot be logged as a traumatic experience in your memory.
>>709974578
This, there is no way that a baby doen't feel pain, and how could it not be the same as an adult? Same nerves and nerve endings, different psyche.
>>709960774
>>709974578
That isn't how it works.
> Anaesthetic = blackout of sensation
Modern anaesthesia works by both blocking all signalling and acting as a hypnotic to stop memory formation. It's not just a consciousness thing.
>>709974578
Thanks doctor
>>709975060
Anaesthesia =/= anaesthetic.
>>709973611
nice 9fag meme. at least you didnt steal it from us
>>709973548
neither of those terms were erroneously used. Come back here when you're not a giant retard. so never.
>>709965382
lol not saying I believe that, but don't be stupid. Someone too incompetent to use an email isn't necessarily too incompetent to tell a goon who to whack.
>>709973769
and?
>>709975153
It's a schoolnight, kid. You should get some good sleep and study up so you become less of a retard later on.
>>709975060
>>709975121
use boolean operators you fucking plebs. and vote trump.
>>709975312
>kid
this is the sign of a nervous man trying to not sound like a cuck.
And ya, you're right. I've got 8 hours of lectures tmr, why am i wasting time with your dumb, fat ass?
bye
>>709975202
So that's doublethink in regards to SJWs, not liberals. It's pointless.
Nearly all the "liberals believe" shit is stereotyped cherries picked from SJW shit. Therefore it's wrong.
>>709975419
>lectures
Never heard that term used for elementary school before, but there's a first time for everything, I suppose.
>>709975423
liberals == sjw now.
