When did it become cool to own assault rifles? Why do people waste money on this shit?
1776
>>709462086
1776
Assault rifles are actually pretty expensive in the US, usually running at least in the tens of thousands.
He owns a semi automatic rifle chambered for .223/5.56, which is a great home defense long gun(that or a shotgun in 12 or 20 gauge take your pic)
>waste money
>>709462086
Owning assault rifles became cool when they were banned in 1994. Before then, they were just another gun, and kind of an ugly one.
It also helps the way that attachments and accessories have proliferated, letting you do basically anything you want with them.
>>709462404
implying you need these items....ever.
if you are white, and have enough money to blow on an AR, you probably live in a nice, white neighborhood i.e. are safe
>>709462404
You've "used" it?
>>709462345
Most assault rifles cost less than a grand
>>709462086
Because they have money to waste on that shit
and to have a family
Make some money OP, then buy whatever dumb waifu shit you want
>>709462533
You can get an entry level AR for around $500. The most expensive part of any gun is the ammo.
>>709462086
Op will be writing a thread in a year "hey be just been burglarized and raped. HOW can I keep this from happening again"
>>709462086
When diversity became trendy.
>>709462086
"Assault rifle" is a misused buzz-phrase.
>>709462490
This anon knows.
>>709462533
Assuming that is a huge mistake because nice, white neighborhoods usually have people with higher incomes. Where there are higher incomes, there are people with nicer things and where there are people with nicer things, there are outsiders who may want to take those nice things.
>>709462570
At firing ranges, yes all the time. It's been about a month since I last went though.
Owning weapons is not just a safety precaution. It is a hobby that, when undertaken properly, is perfectly safe and enjoyable.
>>709462533
You can get an ar for the same price that you can get a glock, and glocks aren't considered expensive pistols.
>>709462086
ITS ILLEGAL TO BUY ANOTHER PERSON A GUN. REPORTED TO THE ATF.
>>709462688
The media has done its job well huh?
Up until a couple years ago assault rifles were defined as select fire, magazine fed rifles. Select fire meaning safe-semi-full or burst.
What most civilians own are actual categorized as semi auto sporting rifles, although, you can buy real assault rifles. A real m16 is going to cost you about $20,000.
It's like calling a corvette a race car. Yeah it's a lot like one, but to become one, it requires illegal modifications.
>>709462086
Why do people waste money buying nice cars? Why do people waste money on anything other than whats needed to live? If you have to ask these questions you are either too stupid to understand or too poor.
>>709462086
The text is obviously fake.
when you have a small penis and insecurity because of it, you will spend any amount of money on toys to make yourself feel big.
that's called the american dream.
>>709463835
Only milspec. You're such a faggot who knows nothing.
Back to your tin foil hat
>>709462404
>this faggot still thinks Dolan is funny
>>709462086
Its principle. If the army owns it, we want it. Otherwise we wind up with 1000yr. Monarchs because we'd all be peasants like the brits.
>>709463835
Go jerk off with your own tears and cosmoline as lube. Spending any more than 2k on a full auto is idiotic. The largest gun show in the world is in my town twice a year. I only really like to go for the cheap ammo and to laugh at the amount of big 4x4s with no mud anywhere near. If you want a chopper just hit up jamone on the north side, he gets em cheap right outa the crate.
>>709464829
Only milspec what? Are you trying to say something?
New fags still calling semi auto rifles assault rifles...
And here i was thinking summers over
>>709462086
why do people wear expensive clothes. nice cars. nice animals. jewlery.... because its America and whiny cunts like you shouldn't be allowed to tell others what they can and cant buy.....
however this kid in the picture is a retard for saying assault rifle.
autism everywhere
>>709463835
I WANT A GUN LOOLOLZZ
>>709462086
At the rate this country's coming apart, it wouldn't be a bad thing to have...
>>709462086
That looks like a AR 15... And they aren't assault rifle
>>709462086
>What are hobbies
Do you NEED a nice car? Do you NEED paintings on your walls? Do you NEED to go hiking?
>>709463754
Not true. It's only illegal if that person is not allowed to buy the gun on their own.
I could buy a gun as a gift for my dad because my dad has a clean record and could buy it himself if he was so inclined.
>>709468612
Collecting is a hobby?
Stock piling a product you dont use like a mindless consumer isn't really something id call a hobby.
>>709463835
The autism is unreal
>>709468895
Shooting is a hobby, and collecting is a hobby to many people. Not to me, but whatever floats your boat.
>Stop liking what I don't like
>>709468936
When that definition is the difference between a normal life and a decade in the pokey, it's not "le autism meme"
>>709462213
fpbp
>>709463835
>>709462213
fpbp
>>709462086
> compensating
>>709462533
I'm white and have lived my entire life in the suburbs.
I have never even once thought I needed a gun for protection.
These guys are insecure faggots with small dicks.
Morons - know a guy that brags about all these assault rifles he has. Blah blah blah... Going on about having same rifles as delta team has.. Blah blah blah... Dude came to work last week crying because some nigger broke into his house and got all of his stash. Should have kept his mouth shut.
>>709469000
>I didn't say to stop liking anything
>I said passively collecting something isnt a hobby in itself
Seldom using a small amount of a type of product you own isn't a hobby. Unless you want to put the hundreds and hundreds of hours into building and painting models and making dioramas in the same league as owning 20 guns and shooting about 2 of them every few months for an hour.
I guess being the equivalent of someone who spends hundreds of dollars on steam sales(Minus the sales) and never fucking playing the game but for weapons is kinda need
>>709462086
Because when a pack of these show up...
>>709465946
The machinegun market saya otherwise. 2k wouldnt even touch the cheapest of cheap transferable MG's. A mac 10 is about as cheap as it gets and those run about 4-5k. Something like an AR with a full auto sear in it is around 15-25k.
>>709463835
>$20,000
>>709469803
Then what do you call collecting stamps or baseball cards? Like I said, I agree, I think it's pretty lame, but it's pretty universally accepted as a hobby.
In the process of buying them you're also learning about them, their history, meeting and interacting with people who share your common interest, etc. That's the real draw of a collecting hobby, not just the item themselves.
>>709466971
>>709468936
>>709469320
Just visiting from /k/. It's ok, we're all autistic over there, the good kind of autistic.
>>709470018
he's not wrong, jackass
>>709470018
Its no bullshit. Look up subguns market place. Pretty much everything is over 5k for a pre-86 trabsferable MG.
>>709470047
Id call it collecting. Like you just did.
If a word encompasses both mindless acquiring goods and spending hundreds of hours perfecting something then the word is kinda fucking meaningless.
Kind of like the word "Literally" these days
>>709462533
Ak47's are cheap as fuck you ultra nigger. Many normal dirt poor niggers own them.
>>709462086
It's always been cool, you're just a pussy op
>>709468802
No it's still a straw purchase
>>709469576
HAHAHA, YEAH, LITTLE DICKS!!
>41 percent of households in us have a firearm.
>nearly half the us has small dicks.
>>709462086
Nigga u gay
>>709470314
>>709470423
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/594328631
>>709470613
>nearly half the us has small dicks.
yeah.
>>709470683
Thats a post sample dingus. Can only be transfered to Class III dealers or LEO's. Not regular civilians.
>>709469803
Except those steam games don't hold or appreciate in value. I have several ARs. I primarily hunt coyote and hog with one. The other 2 were project builds. I have done a value inventory in a few years but I'd estimate I have 30k sitting in that safe with a total investment of maybe 9k.
>>709463754
ATF is illegal & unconstitutional. will be phased out after my man Gary wins the elect
If I had 20k to spend on total bullshit toys if fucking buy a ATV and a trailer to tow it.
Thats way too much money
what I don't understand is the need a semi automatic rifle fills. A medium caliber pistol or a shotgun is more than enough for self defense, and most real hunters use only bolt action hunting rifles. Why own something that does both significantly worse?
>>709470994
Gary is an anti gun cunt and so is his VP. Literally cucked by the Dems
>>709470770
This is it everyone, gun owners cause Freudian slips, the penis envy among non-gun owners is so massive that they literally think tools for self defense and war bear direct relevance to penis size.
>7.5 inch dick owning anon reporting in
>mfw I own a huge gun collection and also have a huge dick
>>709462086
>assault rifle
Yeah, okay.
>>709462086
>implying a semi automatic rifle is an assault rifle.
>>709469992
Im going to list this shit out step by step for you pal
>Obtain rifle
>Strip that bitch down
>Get them numbers off boi
>Put it back together
>Call around to local machine shops
>Find the foreman
>Tell him what you want
>He tells you the price
>Wait 5-7 business days
>It gets dropped off on your porch early in the morning, no questions asked.
>>709471127
>I know nothing about guns besides what I learned in COD
>>709471181
lol, no you dont
>>709471127
Do you even 2nd amendment?
>>709470936
If you own a fairly small number and make use of them at least semi regularly then you are not the demographic I'm referring to at all.
>>709462533
How stupid are you, exactly?
>>709470599
uwot. you can gift it or sell it to anyone that can legally buy one on their own.
>>709471146
It's quite the opposite. You don't know your facts. :)
>>709471127
A medium caliber pistol or shotgun aren't worth shit at medium range.
Imagine your in some woods. Or in a field. Or in the streets. Or actually, anywhere other than a hallway or bedroom. These are the places that someone with a rifle would fucking annihilate someone with a pistol.
>>709471256
There is so much wrong with this i dont even know where to begin. No machine shop is going to make you an auto sear. Manufacturing one without a Class II FFL is 5-10 years in club fed and so is possessing it. You obviously dont know shit about gun laws but i hope for your sake you never try that.
>>709471524
I wish more people wanted to Feel The Johnson™
Why do you give a shit what other people spend their money on?
"wasting" money is subjective.
>>709471409
What exactly is wrong with the demographic you are referring to? You don't like how they spend their money?
I don't like people hoarding millions of dollars and then using it to convince people over time that I shouldn't be allowed to own a number of guns/ammo/types of guns, etc.
>>709471331
Big dick gun owners probably fuck your wife, that is, if you have one
>>709471720
>this
>>709471652
>>709471127
>You don't need 3 point belts or side curtain airbags, I, a clueless pleb, think that lap belts and front airbags are plenty.
>>709471524
Weld voted in favor of the AWB and has gone on record as of this campaign that his anti gun views are the same. Also gary johnson throw a gifted gun to him in the trash and tried to but it back only after he was caught
as a guy who makes a good amount of money, owning and shooting guns with your friends is a great way to appreciate your money. especially when the price of ammunition keeps going up, you can pretty much be firing a dollar a round. good times.
i own a iwi tavor myself and thats definitely one of the most aesthetically pleasing guns imo.
>>709469576
>>709462533
>crime can never happen to me :^)
>why get car insurance I'm a good driver :^)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheshire,_Connecticut,_home_invasion_murders
This is the cuckhold that fought in favor of gun legislature in his state.
Guess which vote he didn't show up for after this happened?
Crime has no address.
You people are idiots. There is no such definition of an assault rifle. It's an arbitrary term the media applies to anything "scary" looking.
>>709462086
>When did it become cool to own assault rifles?
Like, 1983? When Scarface came out.
>Why do people waste money on this shit?
Because it's cool. And has been since like 1983. You know, when Scarface came out.
This shit ain't all that complicated.
My family and I were in a city with a lot of riots recently. We own a business and saw chimps doing what chimps do. Burning down buildings, looting, stealing shit. We stood at the front door and on the roof with shotguns and rifles. Guess which store was the only store not completely destroyed? The business is in what's considered the "good" part of the major city too.
>>709471720
Somebody has never worked a day in their life as a machinist. Shops are nothing but good ol boys that drink beer and talk about minorities and their trucks on break. Theres a rebel flag and a shotgun on the wall of my bosses office. You really think anyone is going to find out about these people building straight man killers from the ground up? If you do, gfy bud.
>>709471960I was at the range recently and they charge $4 a round for a desert eagle. I'm like...the fuck would I wanna shot that anyway. Haha.
>>709472376
>not completely destroyed
Should have killed those niggers
>>709471832
The kind of people who own a jacked up F-350, Full cab, Extended box and never take off the trailer hitch just to dive to the office and costco.
Mindless consumerism driven stupidity and media fear mongering often at the behest of the corporations that directly make money off of it.
Yeah It doesn't directly effect me.
But the kind of retarded backwards bullshit that allows this kind of retardation to exists at the very least can effect me. I am at least concerned over the social and political forces that foster people who are not rich to spend large portions of money on stock piling weapons and ammo for no fucking good reason.
>I don't like people hoarding millions of dollars and then using it to convince people over time that I shouldn't be allowed to own a number of guns/ammo/types of guns, etc.
I dont really myself at all when its in bad faith.
>>709464802
7 inch, own five guns. How many guns do you have, and how big is your cock?
>>709471256
Lol, no
t. Was a machinist
>>709466405
>2016. Anybody using the term "assault rifle" = Giant Faggot.
>>709471127
Ever hunted hogs boy? You better be rockin a semi, because if you show up with a bolt action, those mother fuckers would tear your ass up and eat you alive. Literally. You know nothing about guns or hunting, that much is clear.
>>709472129
>An assault rifle is a selective-fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.
>wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle
>>709471127
You don't have to understand a need. It's none of your fucking business what I have. That's it. The end of the story. Worry about getting raped in your own muzzle loading house.
Lol amerifags thinking it's somehow cool to own guns when it only confirms their insecurity over their own environment and compensational beheaviour.
>>709472932
>Lol, no
fuck you got me, ill just go on to somewhere else with my supposed bullshit.
>>709472069
Might as well wear a helmet when you drive, or get volcano insurance.
But alas, arguing with gun nuts is akin to arguing with feminists.
I'm actually very pro gun rights, I just think you guys are fearful idiots.
>>709463754
>>709473198
>has to come into a random thread and announce his superiority to everyone on The Internet
wew lad, that projection
>>709472649
Mind your own fucking business. How about that?
>>709472996
You're retarded. Ive hunted hogs with shotguns for years. Dont flex your non existent dick.
>>709473015
>No hi capacity assault clip
>>709472631
Couldn't unless they broke in. Which they didn't. Because we had guns. And they saw that. Kek
>>709462086
>assault rifle
nigger thats a semi-automatic. if thats real that guys a faggot.
>>709469576
nu-male spotted
>>709473289
You sound like the loser that never studied in school and would try to defect by seeming apathetic or by condescending to those who actually prepared.
>>709473376
Hit a little close to home? Triggered there anon?
>>709462086
>assault rifle
>wife is in direct line of fire.
someone slap this faggot.
>>709462086
It became cool to own them the day they were invented. It became cool to show them off in pics the day retards with no clue how to handle a gun got their hands on them.
>>709462086
when white people realized that there were other races of people in north america
would only be funnier if that pic captured her blasting his fucking kneecap out the back of his knee
>>709473549
> living life without fear is being a nu-male
lol, you guys!
>>709473569
You're right I did not study and still made A's
>>709473790
lol
they're both gonna blow each others kneecaps off
It's always been cool you gay jew shill.
>>709473015
>pistol grip
>carbine
>ar-15 comes in .22 which is a very light round
>semi auto only
Damn. Doesn't fit your narrative. What now? So my hunting BAR 30.06 with a four round count magazine is considered an assault rifle under your definition. That's fucking retarded.
>>709473790
fukc that pictures so small I didnt even notice that. they are both pointing thier guns at each other.
>>709473801
>You're right I did not study and still made A's
And yet you're here.
You're probably some little faggot in some place like Vermont.
>hee hee xd, I live in the 98% white state with security and gates :^)
>y'all are cowards for taking responsibility of your own lives
>better spout some false equivalences to make him sound unreasonable :^)
And you can bitch and moan all you like, guns aren't going anywhere.
>>709473376
When general trend within populations show something I want to talk about on a image board, Im gonna fucking say something.
To date I have told exactly 0 people how to live their life.
How about you dont reply to people you dont want to hear from?
>>709473801
Living life without fear is called being retarded.
>>709463016
/thread
>>709473956
you dipshit he even said selective fire in his post.
>>709473405
Shotguns aren't bolt action you fucking milk drinker. There are plenty of semi auto models unless you're a cheap ass.
>>709462086
when murritards shipped all the skilled trades positions off to china, and retarded an entire generation into just buying shit like a bitch instead of being craftsmen and taking pride in learning precision machining and making their own household items including firearms, like a fucking master.
>>709463835
He's not wrong you fucking idiot. They are so fucking cheap. Same with shotguns. Pistols are the little fuckers that cost alot.
>>709473956
>30-06
>intermediate round
>>709473956
Is a 30.06 a "intermediate cartridge "?
Understand the terms being used before commenting
>>709474168
>To date I have told exactly 0 people how to live their life.
>being a passive-aggressive, condescending asshole doesn't count, though
Also, the general population uses guns. You're the minority.
>>709462086
Dunno.
I keep a Beretta 12ga over the door out here, but it's for the bear. I don't know who he's planning on assaulting, but better hope whoever it is isn't also armed to the teeth and sees him carrying that thing.
>>709473956
>>709474208
Those aren't selective fire cock sucker. You take the safety off and pull the trigger.
>>709472649
What do you spend your money on? Do you live a minimalist life style? I swear to god you better not be using any precious fucking bandwidth to do anything other than expand your knowledge and others knowledge.
>>709474086
Man you gun nuts sure are riled up tonight! The govment gon take yuh guns away!
Hillary gon take the assault rifles! Jason Giambi hungry!
>>709474483
no shit. he posted something retarded to counter your argument and you just ignored it.
>>709464829
That word doesn't mean what you thinks. Even military doesn't use that word you dumb redneck.
>>709474559
not an argument
>>709462086
>assault rifles
Ok there Mr Lefty.
>>709462086
>Why do people waste money
Their money, their choice. What business of yours is it what people do with their money?
>>709474314
>>709474328
That's my point retards. They change the definition to what ever they see fit. Sometimes it's a pistol grip. Sometimes it's a high capacity magazine. Sometimes it's a detachable magazine. Sometimes the caliber matters. Sometimes the heat shield makes it an assault rifle. I've ever heard rifles being painted black called "tactical assault" paint. It's arbitrary and fucking stupid. Pay attention.
>>709464829
>milspec
lol
>i heard a word and it sounded cool so i'll use it now
>>709474759
THEY GONNA GET YOUR GUNS ANON! WRITE YOUR CONGRESSMAN!
THEN JAMAL AND TYRONE ARE GONNA FUCK YOUR WIFE AND YOU WILL BE DEFENSELESS! DEFENSELESS I SAY!
>>709474262
Just leave.
I'm the same guy that said you can get an ar for the same price of a glock. You obviously have no reading comprehension.
>>709474416
Just cant help yourself? What did I ever say to make you upset? I have not even said anything controversial
>>being a passive-aggressive, condescending asshole(((ON A ONLINE IN A INTERNET IMAGE BOARD WHILE TALKING IN BOARD TERMS ABOUT CERTAIN POPULATIONS OF PEOPLE))) doesn't count, though
>Also, the general population uses guns.
Not really. Unless you use "uses" rather broadly. Also Who the fuck is talking about the general population? I dont care.
Im speaking ill of the hyper consumerist members of the "Gun culture" or whatever you want to refer to it as who participate in it for fallacious reasons.
Reasons that are often in themselves of interest to me.
>>709474917
Civilian is better usually, just milspec is universal plug and play.
>>709474514
Kek. Underrated comment
>>709462086
weapons have always been cool you puncie little faggot.
>>709470893
>implying it's hard to get a class III
>>709474859
This anon is right.
People need to stop using the word "assault weapon" to apply to anything 'black & scary looking' except niggers.
>>709463754
>ITS ILLEGAL TO BUY ANOTHER PERSON A GUN. REPORTED TO THE ATF.
No it's not, Moron.
I bought my GF (now wife) her first gun.
She filled out the paperwork. She is the owner of the gun.
Nobody cares who paid for it.
You really should STFU.
>>709474514
A interesting strawman I guess.
I speak poorly of people who make really stupid expensive purchases for often really bad reasoning and this is supposed to be shut me down somehow?
Stuck close to home I guess.
I admit it. I own a lot of steam games I never beat! Oh no my entire point has been negated!
>>709475094
So you are the same guy that makes threads bitching about people having a religion and devoting their life to it?
>>709464829
Milspec only means military specifications. As in they can all use similar parts. Like my Colt AR15 is milspec, but is only semi auto. It isn't the same rifle as say a marines M16A4 which has a three round burst feature that mine does not.
So you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>709462086
What's the law for shotguns with cut barrels in the US? Can you conceal carry a snub shotty?
>>709475495
When I feel like shitposting.
Remember where we are?
>>709462086
Forever been the tool of the coward little dick squad.
>>709474262
Wrong. Automatic weapons like M16s and AKMs cost thousands of dollars to get, the tax stamps alone are usually in the tens of thousands, then you have to buy the actual automatic rifle for thousands and thousands of dollars. Unless you're rich, you won't be getting one.
That rifle he has is probably 600-800 USD, it's semi auto and not full auto, and not a real M16.
when guns became toys.
>Only fucking pussy faggots care guns.
>I care about what people I don't know do with their lives
You sound like a really fun and interesting person.
>>709475698
Its also an AR.
>>709470683
>post 86
Not available for anyone who isn't law enforcement or military.
>>709475094
318 million people in the US
93 million homes report owning a gun
That's is about 1/3rd of the population if you're only counting 1 person in the home owning a gun, which it's likely more than that.
Use is home defense at the very minimum, most are just for recreation I'm sure.
Doesn't matter though the use or need of the individual, the right applies to all who aren't felons which is likely the majority of America.
>>709474951
Why are you talking about Sweden for?
>>709469576
>I'm white and have lived my entire life in the suburbs.
I'm white and have lived my entire life in the suburbs. Drawn my handgun twice in self defense. Neither time was I in my suburban home.
Try leaving Mommy's basement occasionally.
>>709474951
Yes, goy. Fuck life and God given rights.
>>709475094
>fuck people that have hobbies and exercise their rights
>I am the grand faggot that gets to decide the arbitrary line of how many guns is too many okay guys
Pretty sure at this point, you're some faggot in London bending the knee the muslim horde wishing you had arms.
>>709475868
here's the kicker. theres actually more legal guns in the us than there are people.
>>709475596
Has to be registered with the ATF - and no, you can't in most states.
>>709475845
Obviously? Ar-15s are not full automatic rifles. The ARs you see in gunshows and in gunshops are almost always semi auto, and in the rare cases they are not, they are asking for tens of thousands of dollars. THEN you must pay a tax stamp in order to legally buy it from the previous owner, which is again tens of thousands of dollars. In some states you cannot even own NFA weapons like that.
>>709475868
Outdated, the number of AMericans who own guns is 120+ million, 44% of all americans own a gun.
>>709474328
Lol fuck no .30-06 can collapse a bear. It can make short work of a brain too
>>709475978
Yup, multiple guns per owner, and that is just reported estimates on guns and owners.
Likely the numbers are higher than what is reported.
>>709475917
I've spent many many nights in Atlanta, Nashville, Memphis. In bars, clubs, people's houses, shitty areas.
Never once thought I needed a gun. Just kept my eyes open and handled situations quickly and safely.
>>709475969
I'm pro gun rights. I just think the majority of you guys are on a power trip founded on insecurity and a fantasy of righteously killing Jamal as he tries to break into your home.
>>709476213
That's true, .30-06 can easily take out a bear.
>>709476337
>I'm pro guns
>I just like to insult gun owners and call them crazy
I support gay rights
Fuck faggots, they shouldn't get married because marriage is a religious ceremony.
This is the same logic you are using. Nobody is falling for it.
>>709476163
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/06/29/american-gun-ownership-is-now-at-a-30-year-low/
>>709471127
Piers Morgan is a fucking worthless faggot and the words you are saying come right out of his cherry picking playbook.
>>709462688
The true definition of an assault rifle includes full auto. You need to have a permit (tax stamp/ background checks ) to have one then they cost about 10k for something cheap like an uzi and up
>>709475868
So what are you even trying to tell me?
You ARE using the term "uses" boardly? Then if that's how we are gonna play it then I already agreed.
Why did you feel the need to tell me if its a right? Why do you feel I every questioned that either way?
To quote me "Also Who the fuck is talking about the general population? I dont care."
To backtrack to what I said at first
"Hoarding a consumer good isn't a hobby in my opinion "
"The rational be hind hoarding of consumer goods tends to be bad"
Is this controversial?
>>709475969
When did I say these things.
I actually have an "assault weapon".
MP-5.
I could sell it tomorrow for $35,000.
AR-15 is a semi-automatic rifle worth $500 to $3000 depending on construction and accessories.
>>709464802
Thats just what people like to say when they have nothing else to say. Must make your 2 inch pecker feel big when you call other people small, oh the lies you tell yourself
>>709475477
You are talking about rampant consumerism.
Then you are talking about the gun culture.
Then you are talking about people spending a lot of their money on one thing they like.
How the fuck is anyone suppose to argue with you when you jump all over the place?
>struck close to home
Yeah dude, you are winning this precedent setting argument.
>GUYS. Guys.
>all I'm saying is, people are buying too many guns, and it's bad or something.
Do you have any idea how many jobs the firearms industry holds up? I'll go ahead and let you know, it's more than ten. Firearms in America, and the industry it creates are significant and important. It's not going away, and a lot of people don't want it to go away. In fact, one of the rights that help create the foundation of this country, was put there to make sure that it could never be limited(although it is very much) or taken away. So really someone could say the same about your precious computer and steam games, that you are using too many resources for shit that you aren't going to use, that gaming industry has convinced you that you need, that everyone for some stupid reason, is pissed off that you have.
>>709462688
lel
good job gobbling up exactly what the left wants you to
>>709476486
spread your wings and fly peacock! Fly I say!
What's so funny is yalls clear anger about my banter just confirms my point about insecurity.
Just FYI no one is gonna take your guns. We might see an assault rifle ban in our lifetime, but that would be the end of it. A reduction in legal magazine size, more likely, I should say.
>>709476337
I'm pro gun rights. I just think the majority of you guys are on a power trip founded on insecurity and a fantasy of righteously killing Jamal as he tries to break into your home.
I own a grand total of 2 guns. I just condemn any shit head that suggests stifling rights in any manner.
Rights in America are a zero sum game.
>>709476213
Not as easily as my .300 WinMag
cuz of dumbasses like you op faggot
>>709476486
Thats not a good analogy.
Him being for the positive right to own a gun and taking issue with the type of people who might want to have one are not in conflict with each other.
It might be a bit stupid. But its not mutually exclusive
>>709476664
when the good can be a valid investment that actually goes up in value over time its a different story. also do you not collect electronics or anything at all?
>>709476879
Happy for you buddy. I think freedom is a good thing.
>>709476846
>Just FYI no one is gonna take your guns. We might see an assault rifle ban in our lifetime, but that would be the end of it. A reduction in legal magazine size, more likely, I should say.
What if all my guns are AR-15s fueled by 30 round mags?
>>709476539
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/10/jim-barrett/mythbusting-gun-ownership-decline-u-s/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/249740/percentage-of-households-in-the-united-states-owning-a-firearm/
http://www.people-press.org/2016/08/26/opinions-on-gun-policy-and-the-2016-campaign/augustguns_6/
Try again. Gun ownership has risen 4% in the past two years.
>>709476539
Believing anything from Washington post or New York Times.
>>709471256
If if you did that you would have to have an upper built for full auto or you risk the chance of having an out of battery discharge and you woulc be able to select full auto on the fire selector, fucking dem not knowing these things
>>709476846
>Just FYI no one is gonna take your guns.
>We might see an assault rifle ban in our lifetime, but that would be the end of it.
Or
>A reduction in legal magazine size
Every time. This is why we are insecure, but you faggots do nothing but attempt to "compromise."
Except compromising is when two parties sacrifice part of their position to reach an agreement on a middle ground.
I gain nothing from this while you get to erode my rights bit my bit and act like a snide little cunt.
Zero sum game. The
>I support but...
>common sense laws...
>reasonable...
It's all bullshit. Go fuck yourself.
You aren't pro gun. You're a fucking kike and you've been spotted. Get out.
>>709475596
Yes you can. Each state has different laws on how short the barrel can be though. Buddy of mine has a permit to have a sawed off. He didn't modify it though, they made it stock like that.
>>709462086
guns are cool
>>709477100
Gonna have to make a change then.
30 bullets is a little ridiculous anyway. You don't need that for defense or for hunting.
In the eyes of the anti-gun people it's like, "how much power does the common citizen need for defense?". Should we allow grenades?
>>709476971
Analogies aren't going to be 100% similar, it's the point that is given that you need to focus on, autist.
Additionally, if someone claims they are not a racist, but then clearly shows signs of actual racism and hatred of other races, it makes their statement of not being a racist dubious at best. Anon here is using the "I'm part of that group, and I agree with criticism thrown against it!" argument as some way of validating the criticism.
>>709477270
Actually I hate jews.
I wish Hitler hadn't made the mistake of fighting Russia in the winter and had finished what he started.
We certainly wouldn't have the shit fucking economy we do now.
>>709477409
>need
There it is again. It's not a matter of NEED, it's a matter of rights.
>You don't need that for defense or for hunting.
How about fuck you? That reason enough?
>how much power does the common citizen need for defense
We need guns that can compete with our military. The whole point is so in the event our government becomes so corrupt we the people have to retake it.
>you could never do that
Not with faggots like you we couldn't.
>>709477270
Exactly, we've gotten to where we are with gun rights through compromise. In the last 8 years we've decided to make a stand against the slow erosion of our rights.
That's the lefts game plan. Slowly force citizens to compromise on it until there is nothing left to compromise.
But that is government.
>>709477182
>If if you did that you would have to have an upper built for full auto
What?
All my AR-15's have an M16 bolt carrier. Colt, among others, ships ALL their ARs with a full auto ready upper.
Slap it on an M-16 lower and you're good to go.
>>709476660
>>709476714
Just stop using the term "assault rifle".
You know damn well it has been bandied about so much it has no real meaning anymore; so fuck your Wikipedia definition. Do you remember the last "assault weapon" ban? It wasn't just for fully auto, you cunt; and the ban next time will be even worse; especially if dumb niggers like you keep using terms like "assault rifle", when, like I said, that has absolutely no meaning anymore in the common parlance.
>>709462086
It's no worse than wasting money on mobiles, except it can save your life, fucking stupid shill, kill yourself
>>709476337
>I just think the majority of you guys are on a power trip founded on insecurity
You think most Marines and Army rangers are insecure? They like a lot of guns too.
Consider yourself luck mother fucker. When i was like 18 or 19 took my qt3.14 to a concert in the city, I had been to this area 1000 times before no trouble ever, parked like not even 700feet from the concert hall, 4 pieces of shit walk up to us as we get to our car and try jacking her phone. Luckily they didn't have a gun because i chased and tackled the faggot who snatched her shit and got it back. Even luckier i didn't have a gun, would have left his worthless fucking ass laid out on the ground to die while i went home for some sleep.
I guess what i am trying to say is, GUNS make it safer you degenerate.
>>709476846
Nobody is falling for your facade, we know you don't like guns because evidence has shown you dislike guns, or at least gun owners in this case. It is pretty easy to come to the conclusion that you are anti gun, admitting what you are doing is banter means you're just trying to cover it up, it's not working, nobody believes you. Stop saying you're pro gun.
>Nobody is going after your guns
>Assault weapons ban
>Which means they're going after certain guns
>Which means my guns
Whats the difference in this again? They aren't going after guns by going after "assault weapons"? Isn't that a contradiction?
>>709477409
Its for the need to keep the states free from the federal government.
>>709476879
Timestamp with guns.
>>709462086
>>709477409
>"how much power does the common citizen need for defense?"
Okay. To play devil's advocate, who are you to put a limit on what one believes is necessary to protect their life? Who is anyone to really make that decision for someone else?
At the end of the day, are these laws not affecting law abiding citizens MORE than the criminals they're aimed at?
>>709477409
>Gonna have to make a change then.
So they ARE going to take MY guns.
I really don't care if I can then have a Libtard Approved gun.
>>709476846
>yalls clear anger about my banter just confirms my point about insecurity.
Says the guys whining endlessly about guns on /b/
>>709477642
Well I sure would like to play with some grenades. I'm serious I would really love to be able to buy grenades so I could toss them at stuff and watch it blow up. I don't need a grenade. I want a grenade. So is that my right? Do I need a grenade to defend myself.
Oh and FYI even with all your assault rifles and shit you're not gonna compete with the United States Military in the event of a civil war or rebellion.
Also, FYI, I'm arguing with you guys for fun. I could literally care less. If they make RPG's legal to buy tomorrow, I'm cool with it.
>>709477683
What compromises have you made exactly?
>>709476747
>You are jumping around
>Lets jump around and talk about some unrelated shit
I think consumerism is tired to any culture that is based around Buying and trading a consumer product. They are one and the same. You cant have Gun culture without gun consumerism.
When giant industry worth many billions of dollars is involved is with out fail spends a lot of its money on conniving people to buy more of what its selling.
I feel much of what is being said or suggested by paid advocates of the gun industry is dishonest.
Is this true of the tobacco industry, Big pharma, The oil industry.
They all try to sell up bullshit and all have to some extent have people believing their bullshit.
Are you suggesting people dont take it too far like ever? Cant think of an example?
You surely can. We could at the very most disagree with the volume.
>All the bullshit you wrote at the end I dont care about because it does not have anything to do with any complaint I have about anything La La La La
I complain about unhealthy consumerism and you give me this "But guns are important and stuff" Bullshit that I have not given you any reason to think I disagree with. Its immaterial to what Im talking about.
>>709462086
Bill Clinton's 1994's Federal Assault Weapons Ban. Know your history you gimp. Now it separates us from the sjw pussy faggots.
>>709468420
Assault rifle 15
>Not an assault rifle
Fucking dumbass>>709468420
>>709477270
What do you think a reduction in legal mag size would do, it would ban pistols that have 10+ rounds in the mag, you cant just change it to a smaller mag, even if there was a ban towel heads could still get ak47s into the us just like in Paris,ag size or assualt style weapons ban wouldnt really stop shootings, the reason we have them is for a fuckinging hobby just like when you drink alcohol In 2014, 9,967 people were killed in alcohol-impaired driving crashes firearms were used to kill 13,286 (excluding suicides) people in the U.S. in 2015 big difference right
>>709478014
the united states military isnt allowed to operate on american soil for that exact reason dummy.
>>709476846
That's a fucking lie. Look at Chicago. Detroit. All of California. Ban on guns. The rest of the nation? Sure they won't outright ban guns, but they pass laws so fucking crazy that they might as well be banned.
>insane ammo tax
>Years waiting period
> Abitrary rules on who can own them. No fly, wtf does that have to do with guns? Where is due process?
> No "high capacity" magazines
> No detachable magazines
> No pistol grip
> No heat shields or attachable guards
> No accessories.
> Sue gun manufacturers if Joe Blow kills someone with one.
> Extreme tax on Gun manufacturers.
None of what I have said has not been at LEAST been a platform or discussed by the liberal left. Those are all real proposals that would ban guns. Call it what you want.
>>709478049
UH, I drank fluoridated water
>SHILL THREAD IGNORE
>SHILL THREAD IGNORE
>SHILL THREAD IGNORE
>>709477690
>I CAN JUST SLAP A PART ON MY GUN AND MAKE IT SHOOT FAST!!!
That's not how that works.
You're going to spend a lot of time, fill out a lot of paperwork and spend a LOT of money to get a full auto weapon.
>>709477706
He's right, ya know.
>>709476664
Doesn't matter what your opinion is. It's a moot point.
If people want to own more than 1, 2, or 10 guns, it does not matter how you feel about it, because as long as no laws are broken it's none of your damn business.
>>709477761
Okay so here's a thought.
Give them the car and the phone, then go straight to the police. Insurance will cover your losses and those criminals will be either in jail or dead within months.
Are your possesions worth dying for?
>>709478049
The gun owner "protection" act where it banned tons of guns
>>709478175
Retard
>>709478175
I know you're joking, but for those who are curious AR-15 stands for Armalite Rifle Model 15.
>>709476979
100% agree
If you are making a cool collection of valuble guns when at worst you could sell them all for a profit you are doing nothing wrong. id agree its a pretty decent idea if you are interested in guns in the first place.
I'm sure there are better ways to invest money. But few as interesting
>>709477855
> We should follow everything written down ever and not change laws and norms in accordance with modern times
omfg.
>>709478175
I know this is bait but AR doesn't stand for Assault Rifle.
>>709477104
I don't think it's declined, I think it's stayed the same in real numbers, only the population has increased thereby making the statistical percentage smaller.
>>709462086
I buy guns for fun. Have a few and its just a nice stress reliever. I hope i never use them to kill a person but it feels nice sending rounds down a range.
>>709474213
It's illegal to make firearms without a license to do so you shit
Reading through the people that replied to OP...you guys are autistic as fuck, and are easily triggered (see what I did there) for a bunch of "tough" gun owners.
>>709462345
There is no such thing as an assault rifle
>>709477954
Oh IDK, A logical citizen who can play out some self defense scenarios in his head and can rationalize that a 30 bullet clip is not a neccesary tool of home defense and that the risk of having this available to psychopaths is not worth the reward of a home defense person having 15 more bullets than he needs.
>>709476660
Uzi is a sub machine gun stupid
Not an assault rifle.
Shut the fuck up
>>709478014
They make rpg's legal to buy today, right now... and grenades. It's going to cost you $200 at a bare minimum per explosive device.
>>709478440
we need to throw out the constitution of the united states because its old. nigger this country is only 250 years old dont you think its a little soon to be giving away all of our rights? we already lost the right to privacy in our own homes. Isnt that enough for right now?
>>709477985
I'm doing it ironically though! From bed I might add.
>>709478282
This is true but you can get a lightning link for an ar15, but wouldnt it be better to have full auto for the cops when there is a public shooting because they would have to change mags every 3 seconds if it is an ar15 and they are using full auto, also not the faggot you were talking to
>>709478640
And likely will never get approved for the NFA stamp.
Oh almost forgot the 1992 Los Angeles riots (aka the Rodney King riot)
Korean store owners defend their business during the 1992 LA riots.
Their property was the only one left alone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzkBGQx3HAc
>>709477855
It was needed in lieu of a standing army, to keep the states free from the fucking British empire you illiterate twat. Read their fucking works, they wrote thousands of pages on why and how each amendment worked. Well-regulated militia being necessary to the free state, not billy joe bob and his fuckin personal anti-aircraft arsenal and no regulations at all being necessary to the free state.
Fucks sake, Scalias dead, only a matter of time til your corrupt activist judges ruling is overturned.
>>709478685
>Ironically
At times you were, but you really believe your bullshit. From an outside perspective, it's clear as day.
Truth is modern day leftist bullshit actually are what causes spikes in guns sales not the NRA or the guns company. Sure the companies want you to buy their product, otherwise they would be out of business but you'll notice a trend in sales anytime liberals start whining about it or some1 goes on a rampage(which rarely happens).
>>709478492
Statistics are showing gun ownership is on the rise. More legit organizations say so than the washingtonpost, which is a site that's has a bias against gun owners.
it's like reading about why global warming doesn't exist on a creationist website. Just because someone did a "poll" doesn't make it correct, since more sources show that gun ownership is on the rise, I am inclined to agree with those sources over yours since they are not reliable.
>>709478014
Nigga isis is using like 40 year old guns and they are woopin our ass
>>709478661
Much of the constitution has been amended since it's creation.
These are changes that occured because changes in society required them.
>>709478282
>That's not how that works.
I build the things. I kinda know how they work.
>You're going to spend a lot of time, fill out a lot of paperwork and spend a LOT of money to get a full auto weapon.
Legally? Yes.
Do you know the difference between an AR-15 lower and an M-16 lower? ONE drilled hole.
Do you know how many parts you have to change? Change 3 add 1.
15 minutes to drill the hole
20 minutes to swap the parts.
The upper doesn't need to be touched.
Not hard to do.
Now there's that whole 10 years in prison thing...
>>709479145
They die at like a 10 - 1 ratio, them to us.
>>709478049
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Firearms_Act_of_1938
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibus_Crime_Control_and_Safe_Streets_Act_of_1968
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_Control_Act_of_1968
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undetectable_Firearms_Act
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brady_Handgun_Violence_Prevention_Act
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban
These are all regulations on firearms. Technically they all illegal when it comes to the second amendment. I'm not saying they are all bad. I find it really funny that some of them imply in their name that they are helping gun owners.
>>709479078
it was also intended to keep the federal government from infringing on state rights. dont act like you know shit about the constitution.
>>709478315
>Are your possesions worth dying for?
Well, my body is.
In fact, one might say that having a body at all is worth dying for; hence, the reason I chose to possess one this lifetime!
>>709478117
bitch you gonna break your wrist
>>709478315
>Give them the car and the phone
Are you retarded anon?
What if they had a gun? What if not only they had a gun but they intended on killing us after robbing us and had no intentions of letting us live. These scenarios take place everyday and you can bet your ass the dead guy on the ground, if he could think, he would have wished he could have defended his life.
Cops will tell you, ask them.
>>709479112
Nope, no trend here. Ha !
Thanks Obama
>>709479444
Nice trips, oh embodied one.
>>709479120
I'd like to think they've risen, but if they have it's not being reported.
People are not volunteering that type of information on surveys anymore thanks to government agendas.
So, while you can use biased sources, and I can use biased sources, I don't think the real numbers will ever be known.
I'm pro gun btw. I'd be considered a "super owner" according to a poll conducted about 3% of the gun owners own half of the guns in the US (I think it's bullshit but it's funny, all the same).
>>709476539
>>709478492
M8 read the actual article, it says they asked just 1000 people, I mean, for fucks sake, that doesn't mean anything. They also never reveal where they asked, it IMPLIES they asked people who were upset about the Orlando shooting, that's a very piss poor way to gather a statistic because there is a major bias.
>>709478542
>It's illegal to make firearms without a license to do so you shit
No it isn't.
You just can't make one to sell.
You can make as many as you want for your own use.
>>709478315
The world is not a safe space faggot.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/9-month-old-baby-killed-in-georgia-home-invasion/
>>709479145
Nice bait
>>709479553
How is PEW or Gallup bias again?
>>709479314
Don't act like you don't know shit about how instantly you'd be exterminated trying to overthrow the US government by force by armed coup.
Nigga, please.
No really, please rush the federal government with your peashooter.
You watched too many fuckin movies
>>709479078
I does kinda irk me that people pretend they intended people to arms themselves as individuals and ignore the entire part about militias.
If we are going to play the part of the constitutional literalist then shouldn't we be offering up ourselves to local or state militias?
We have the right to own a gun but we ignore the same part on the page that suggests me might have a responsibility along with it.
I actually really like the status quo interpretation of it, We just get the rights to own guns and that's that.
But its just pure dishonesty to me when someone quotes that section as to why we should when they just gloss over that important bit.
>>709479750
>not asking a wide pool from many geographical, economic, and ethnic backgrounds
>sticking to polls done in New York or California
>>709478063
What exactly have you seen the gun industry say to convince me to buy more guns.
I promise you that liberal media, more so the tv show that it produces sells way more guns than the gun industries propaganda. The only thing the gun industry produces in prpoganda that convinces people to buy different stuff is advancement in mechanical efficiency and interface user customization. If you knew anything about how the shit worked you would understand.
And for the people who collect different types of guns. They do it because they find all that shit interesting. It's mechanical history that they can put their hands on and understand and feel. When someone goes out and buys a ww2 garand to buy it for the historical value for themselves, it's just that. Can you literally not understand any of this shit?
>>709479758
You watched too many fuckin movies
Tactics...........How do they work?
>>709479686
My county has about 100,000 residents. Last year there were probably 10 home invasions.
And in the last 10 years maybe 3 fatal home invasions.
Fucking stats man. Not on your side.
You know what you are right. There is a very small chance that one day, possibly, you will be home and someone will try to enter your home with the intent to steal and/or hurt people, and you will be ready and have a firearm for defense. And you will be glad you have a gun. So yeah be sure to buy a gun.
>>709479758
The majority of the US Military are gun owners, and very pro gun, additionally you would be hard press to find a soldier or marine willing to shoot their friends or family for a government they don't even like in the first place, especially after 10+ years of failed occupations, they won't do it. If you think so, you're crazy.
>>709462086
Because they are fun to shoot and to hunt with. They are accurate also. People that don't go shooting or hunting or have never used or owned a gun will never understand. They think know one should own a gun well swords are good for nothing but killing people and cutting off heads. They should be banned also,
>When did it become cool to own swords? Why do people waste money on this shit?
>>709479758
I'll say it a gain britbong. the military is and never will be allowed to operate on US soil legally. But Obama found a loophole and now military attack drones are about to be cleared for operational use in America. Thats right operational use with armarments. Tell me why the fuck they would want to make that a law?
>>709479912
>We asked 1001 people about guns right after a terrorist attack in orlando we reported as a normal mass shooting
>Unbiased
Pew is not nearly as bias as CBS.
>>709478725
They do it every day.
>>709479888
>>709463041
>Outsiders
Obviously you don't live in a city where the cops do their fucking job and profile the shit out of "outsiders".
>>709479470
> 4 men
> all armed
> you are armed
You are best off running, you're not gonna win that battle.
99% of thieves do not want to kill their victim, they just want to get their stuff quickly.
I'd say statistically you are better off giving up your possesions to an armed theif than pulling a gun. When it comes to life and limb. Don't have the facts to back up this opinion though.
>>709479888
Yes, and we still have a national guard, and armories, which is where we keep the well-regulated militias arms. Faggots whipping pistolas around at each other in the streets and getting your fucking head blown off by your 5yo have fuck all to do with the intent of the constitution.
>>709480039
you probably dont have a nigger problem either. We've been culturally enriched.
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/10/baby_shot_on_clevelands_east_s.html
>>709480309
niggers mostly kill niggers.
>>709480141
Explosives?
Don't think so.
Suppressors, SBSs, SBRs - sure.
Explosives? No.
>>709463835
>Up until a couple years ago assault rifles were defined as select fire, magazine fed rifles. Select fire meaning safe-semi-full or burst.
That's still the current definition. Judging from the highly refined autism in most of the replies you're getting, you triggered the fuck out of a bunch of COD kiddy nogunz tryhard mall ninja wanna be operators who can't understand the difference between assault rifles and AR/AK pattern sporting rifles.
>>709464802
Why the obsession with my penis?
>>709480185
>99% of thieves do not want to kill their victim, they just want to get their stuff quickly.
Is that 1% that will kill you labeled.
No?
Then I'll just shoot 100%.
>>709480134
All of them are biased.
Every single one. You cannot get away from it, regardless of which side you're on, it's just how it is.
>>709480185
Robberies are risk-management. If I'm robbing somebody, I want money or stuff I can get money for. I don't want a murder 1 charge, nor do I want to get killed.
If I see no gun, and nobody dies anything stupid, I get the $ or stuff and nobody gets hurt. If I see someone pull a gun, I'm outing them down before they have a chance to point it at me, not smart.
>>709464829
>You're such a faggot who knows nothing.
The voice of experience
>>709462086
Right wing movement at its finest.
It's a good thing... Go Republican.
Vote Trump.
Don't go far right tho, cause that's where things get Nazi bad.
>>709480382
thats because most white people live in white neighborhoods I on the otherhand live in niggerland. I'd rather not take the chance.
>>709462533
And if your black you have money to blow on rims for a shitty car.
>>709480565
Do you rob people?
>>709479888
Listen here, trips...
>>709480046
>the majority of he US Military are gun owners
Oh this thread again. Imagine who I could be that would make you feel as stupid as possible saying that commonly misunderstood idea to me. Then feel that stupid.
>>709480185
FBI statistics backed up by Dept of Justice studies show that if you defend yourself that you have a better chance of surviving any attack, and that some 70-80% of criminals will flee when they encounter an armed civilian.
I'm so tired but I'm so scared to go to sleep.
Are you a eurocuck or americuck, OP? Either way you the faggest of the fags. :)
>>709480512
Pew is reporting that more americans (That particular time btw, a new poll shows they are against more gun control) were in favor of an assault weapons ban in that same statistics that showed 44% of americans own guns.
I'll say this, 44% is likely a very low ball percent of the actual number since some gun owners do not say they own guns or how many.
What you MEAN to say is that they are not super accurate, which is true, however, I would say that since other more reliable sources than yours have coinceded with this statement, as well as the FBI reporting more background checks for guns we can conclude Pew's number is closer to the truth than CBS.
Finally, the reason why CBS is bias is because they are known to be anti gun, the mere fact that article refers to the Orlando Terrorist Attack as a Mass shooting should indicate to you they are trying to poison the well here.
If our sources were boxers yours would be a feather weight, mine would be a heavy weight.
>>709463835
looks like you hit a nerve bro
>they cant handle the truth
>>709480384
You should educate yourself anon.
Btw it's not the atf, it's the batfe bureau of alcohol tobacco firearms and explosives. I promise you can. There is a company that sells pipe bombs even.
>>709480850
Rephrase that, you sound retarded.
>>709480565
So much this. Thank god a thief answered.
Stats are just not on your side gun anons.
I trust my police force they have a shitload of money, cars, and guns and time on their hands. I think generally they do a good job.
As as far as the ghetto, well fuck that place anyway, just nigs killing nigs.
>>709479940
>Can you literally not understand any of this shit?
>Not understanding how this in no way even touches on what I'm even talking about
>Not understanding people collecting things for sentimental value isn't light years away from what I'm talking about
>How its about as related as the methane levels on titian are to the latest episode of the walking dead
>Dear fucking god how is saying I'm NOT talking about all collectors directly and multiple times not enough to suggest not referring to everyone who collects guns
>Isn't it just obvious at this point Im questions peoples reasoning and not the action? I said as much
>Man I'm even subbed to a few gun related channels on YouTube because I like learning about this shit myself
>I dont know why anyone feels the need to defend the entirety of gun-dom from me because I leveled some rather entry level and harmless criticisms of taking things too far in a particular context
>Thank god I have meme arrows to spell this all out clearly
The point about the media contributing to the problem is totally valid. It almost certainly is a factor in to unhealthy gun consumerism.
Very good point! Thanks for reinforcing what I believe I guess.
>>709480820
I did, when I was younger. Not people, buildings. Usually ones without humans in them. ...usually.
>>709480877
An attack or robbery? I'd like to see this study.
>>709480393
By real definitions yes. I was talking about what the social definition has come to be, as you and I know.
>>709479758
If the government asked the local law enforcement agencies to go collect the guns because they are now illegal. It would not be enforced. And if it did, patriot from all over the US would flock there to help the citizens in need. If it got more serious the military's would defect and help the resistance. This is all common knowledge, have you forgotten about the ex military helping that farmer who was trying to protect his cattle from being stolen by the government?
>>709468895
Go on CL or eBay and look for collectibles. It doesn't matter what. Everything you find will have forums, experts, specialists, and online or print journals.
Yes, you hopeless Downie boy, collecting is a hobby.
>>709480201
That side steps what I said
People want to own their guns and wave that section in peoples faces while never once offering themselves to serve.
I demand honesty. There are plenty of rock sold defenses of gun ownership that do not rely on just quoting the second amendment.
>>709480144
Nice meme
>>709480845
Nice meme
>>709480980
They still call themselves just the ATF.
>>709469576
Why the obsession with penises? What do you want to tell us?
>>709468895
You misunderstand, we don't just buy guns and hide them in our house, we use them all the time by target shooting, hunting, self defense, cleaning, maintaining, and modifying them.
You could call gunownership more of a hobby than you could say being a gamer as a hobby. Though I am both.
>>709481077
That;s not robbery.
Well, it's been fun, /b/ros!
My bedtime.
Maybe tell me a bedtime story?
>>709462086
this shit is daily news you arent fooling anyone you liberal idiots.
http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article85228257.html
>>709481445
Quoting documentation on our rights by the founders of this country is a relevant and valid defense because what they are inferring is that since we have the right to own guns, that it is justified to own them, especially if you've actually read up on american history and understand the 2nd amendment beyond just the text.
>>709481317
If the term hobby both includes amassing a particular consumer good and spending hundreds of hours perfecting a craft like fine carpentry or build ships in a bottle then the term is kinda useless.
>>709481618
Im sure a lot of people do. You personally dont represent every gun owner. I'm sure most gun owners would not refer to their hobby as "Guns" either.
The people who do just buy shit, Look at it and god "Huh, neat" and put it away for ages at a time and never do fuck all with it are what im referring.
>>709471103
That's because it's a bullshit number, even if you are talking about getting an FFL.
>>709469803
>Seldom using a small amount of a type of product you own isn't a hobby.
Tell that to stamp and coin collectors, or antique collectors, or art collectors, and on and on and on. Car collectors, even.
Please don't breed.
>>709481072
So do you think you can give me in a short paragraph what your problem is? Why do you think it's bad that people buy a shit ton of guns and ammo because they are afraid the gov will come take them/the blacks will rape their mom/they think aliens will kill them/they think YOU specifically will come kill them? They are spending money directly into our shitty economy, all American money. Money that starts here and products that start here, only truly supporting American economy and interest. Why do you care what their reasoning is behind it? Do you think those are the people that commit mass murder. They spend all their shitty earned money straight into this system, instead of shipping their money out of country,they are actually keeping that money here and supporting the economy and fellow citizens and possibly friends. Why do you care the reasoning behind their purchases. And please don't give that rampant consumerism bullshit answer, seriously, nobody gives a fuck, that's how the economy works. It's how you keep your shitty job, if you even have one.
>>709481922
There is a difference between cherry picking and quoting.
If you are going to rely on the text, Use the fucking text.
Did the damn post you are replying to just say this already?
>>709481924
There is more evidence of gun use from gunowners than there is against it, you are trying to suggest that since YOU think that they just buy a gun and never use it that it must be true, you are drawing to this conclusion with literally no source or logical basis, this type of reasoning is hilariously retarded, and wouldn't fly anywhere else, and it isn't flying here.
I can show you videos of gun shooting competitions, and modifying/maintaining guns, piles and piles of them. What is your evidence to suggest your conclusion is correct?
>>709480185
More like this guy, not some pussy handing my life over to some piece of shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkWgp2abM2w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkWgp2abM2w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkWgp2abM2w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkWgp2abM2w
