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>2016
>only having 2-4 CPU cores
>not falling for the X99 HEDT meme
Whats your excuse for not getting 6+ cores /b/?
>>709271385
>2016
>59hz monitors
lol get the fuck out
>>709271506
It's a windows rounding thing retard, 59.97Hz gets rounded down to 59hz in windows. It's still running at effectively 60hz however.
>>709271627
My fault I guess
>2016
>Not having 144hz monitors but chatting shit about 2-4 core CPUs
Fucking moron
>>709271697
what's the point of 144hz?
If you thought this was for gaming you're the retard here.
Who gets 6 cores/32GB 3200MHz DDR4 and 17TB of storage paired with a GTX 960 for gaming?
I'd have spent half as much on my HDDs and CPU and gotten a GTX 1080 or some shit if I cared about that.
>>709271774
>144hz is only for gaming
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You've clearly never seen one. Desktop work is fucking glorious. Youve never seen a cursor move that smoothly. Using any other machine hurts to look at after using 144hz for so long.
>>709271902
>Youve never seen a cursor move that smoothly
wew
Color accuracy and viewing angles are far more important to me. These use the same IPS panel used in the 25" 1440p dell Ultrasharp.
My phones processor has 8 cores and likes to overheat, pretty useless piece of shit
>>709271995
That's because your phone's heatsink is about the size of a credit card, if that.
>59Hz in 2016
>>709271979
To answer your original question, my excuse for not getting 6+ cores is that Intel high core CPUs are to expensive and AMD CPUs are bad right now
>>709272239
I paid the same price i would have paid for a 6700k and Z170 setup, maybe $20-30 premium because X99 boards are pricier, but that's it.
This was before 6800k came out, but the 5820k could be found for under $300 in-store.
What about this?
3930k - 6/12 Coares
IT's getting a little dated now, but because it's such a beast, it's still an ass kicker.
>>709272357
The i7-970 would count, the i7-950 is close enough to be respectable though.
>not falling for the X99 HEDT meme
>falling for the 4gb 960 meme instead.
>Maxwell GPU chip in 2016
>>709272397
>3930k - 6/12 Coares
Nice, back in those days I was still on AMD, such a huge leap in performance upgrading to the 5820k. In both single core and multicore.
>>709272414
Thanks. It's almost 5 years old and still can run anything on max.
Although i think the RAM speed is a little low....
>>709272454
>>709272453
Not gaming and the 10xx series was garbage, just look at the GTX 1070 micron memory mess right now.
I'm waiting for the 11xx series before getting a new GPU, my counter strike already runs at 140fps on ultra settings at 1440p, and that's basically the only game I play.
>>709272503
Not worth an upgrade until the next batch of Intel chips next year
Upgraded GPU to a 1080 though,
>>709272516
Wait for kabylake (or skylake-X) in a few months if you feel you need an upgrade. Save up now and you should be fine.
>>709272578
CS will run on a potato.
Most of the people on this forum weren't born when it came out.
>>709272625
For you I would say even longer than that, the next batch of HEDT will likely only give 5-10% improvement again, that's only ~25-30% over yours.
>>709272578
>>709272625
>>709272658
What are your thoughts on the RX480 VS 1080?
>>709272686
Good, you understand why I see no reason to upgrade my GPU then.
>>709272736
Go for the GTX 1070. It's 40% cheaper and only 15% slower.
>>709272578
Can I just ask you what the fuck you need 140fps on a 59Hz monitor for?
>>709272806
To keep steady 60fps with now dips.
Also, I got the GTX 960 because it has the most advanced hardware video encode/decode abilities from the 9xx series.
Even more advanced than the GTX 970 and GTX 980Ti.
>>709272863
>with now dips
With no dips
>>709272775
Yeah but i dont wanna spend $700 on something I dont feel like needs an upgrade RIGHT now
>>709272716
It's not only the CPU though remember.
I'm already lacking from this batch of motherbaords.
By the time the next revisions of CPUs come out, the motherboards will well and truly settled on DDR4, M.2 or whatever is coming after it, USB3C etc.
>>709272878
If you're fine with what you have then dont get either one...
>>709272736
1080 pisses all over the 480. Nothing ATI (sadly) has out can compare.
Currently best card is 1080 (though the Titan XP is faster, it's not worth the amount of cash you pay over the 1080 for the performance gain)
>>709272863
Not to sound like a clickbait, but I went from Master Guardian Elite to Supreme Master First Class after I bought a 144Hz monitor. It really helps, and especially in CS:GO!
>>709272932
Sure, but unless you need those features you're just paying the ticket price for entry into the cool kids club.
and I have an M.2 drive, unless you're working with large 4k RAW files or similar large files, M.2 drives are just a waste of $ for the average person.
>>709273037
144hz helps in ANY game.
If you aren't gaming on a 144/120hz monitor, then you suck.
>>709273037
As someone who hasn't touched an MM in 6-8 months that's not really something i'm concerned with.
>>709273073
I'm not average... :)
>>709272999
>>709272941
Ok cool thanks for you info.
So what you are kinda hinting at is dont bother upgrading if you can play everything at ultra/max/high?
>>709273137
More than that, don't bother upgrading unless you feel you need to.
If you are fine playing games at low settings to get good FPS, but don't give a fuck about low graphics and just want to enjoy the game, feel free to do so.
No one is forcing you to run the games at Ultra/high.
>>709273099
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>>709273137
When I game, I want native resolution of my monitor (currently 1920x1080), max game settings, 120 FPS.(120hz monitor).
If I can't do that, I'll save up and get a new card that can do that. Just went from 2 x 780s in SLI (SLI is fucked now) to a 1080. Saved for three months to buy the 1080.
>>709273133
Fair enough, but be warned it adds a decent bit of time to your boot process because initializing a PCI boot device takes longer than SATA.
>>709273281
>>709273233
This is what we call different schools of thought, both are right in their own way.
>>709273287
Boot times mean shit to me. I leave my machine on 24/7 and it has a RAID card in it, which totally fucking kills my boot time anyhows.
I'm not average.
>>709273351
Just letting you know fampai, tons of kids assume quick storage means super quick boot times without understand how the boot process is actually carried out.
>>709273347
I've been gaming since forever. Used to always have to uninstall a game to make the one I wanted to play fit. Used to be chunky. Long time ago I said FUCK THAT SHIT. Now I make sure I have a top end system. I don't go overboard. I save for my shit. I get hte top end shit but still bang for buck.
>>709273433
>understand
understanding
>>709273233
Ok cool thanks for the info.
Everyone i know keeps telling me to upgrade and i know fuck all about computers. But i can play everything fine so (me, myself) havent seen a need to upgrade.
>>709273281
Alright cool thats the way you game and i respect that.
>>709272040
not enough thermal paste. need mooooarr
>>709273433
I'm not a kid :)
Computer Tech. Been into computers since I got on in 1989. Gaming since forever.
>>709273446
With a 5820k, 32GB RAM, and over 700GB of SSD storage available, I'm not too concerned about any of that, my bottleneck is my GPU, and I comfortable with that. I can play pretty much every game out there at 60fps, I just have to turn graphics down in games like Witcher 3 or similar. And I have no problems doing so, doesn't bother me at all as long as i'm at 60fps.
>>709273579
Were you rendering youtube vids on that machine?
>>709273579
32 GB Ram = overkill unless you actually use it for a RAM disk or PPing images or video editing, or server machine etc
>>709273625
No, I do some encoding for private trackers, hence the CPU and large storage space.
>>709273658
But the 32GB of ram?
You should only ever need 16 at max...
>>709271385
I wouldn't be able to afford a VPN.
>>709273652
Editing and encoding mainly, I plan on setting it up to run Arch as my primary OS with a VM using 4 cores and 16GB of RAM setup with windows for gaming. Eventually.
>>709273702
It's quad channel, I had 2x8GB in my last computer, figured might as well just go with 4x8GB.
>>709272578
>10xx series was garbage
You're talking about it like it's an old series.
>140fps on ultra settings at 1440p
Woah you can run a source game at 140hz eventhough you have a 60hz screen.
>>709273658
SSD storage has come down heaps now. 1TB drives are out also.
I'm running about ... that much storage at the moment...
>>709273739
yeah, I feel you. RAM is pretty cheap today compared to prices in the last... forever.
It's such a shame it's all mostly sitting there being not used though... ;(
i have a dell dimension e521 and am just wondering if it's worth it to replace some parts or just buy a new desktop for gaming purposes. spending limit is around 300
>>709273739
I may be wrong in saying this. But i was told and this is by many people your computer can only use >16GB unless doing massive tasks i.e rendering encoding, editing ect
>>709273801
Idea ram speed? Mine is 539MHz and ive been told thats low?
>>709273824
Depends on what you are loading up...
I knew a guy who used to have 32 gb RAM in his machine. He used to load up 8 instances of EVE Online...
Cracked 24gb ram... that was the MOST I've ever seen in use outside a server though.
>>709271385
/shrug
>>709273764
Yup, I have 17TB in my main desktop and another 15TB in the media server.
>>709273824
>can only use >16GB
Well just sitting here on the desktop with ~14 chome tabs, music player, and a few background processes, i'm using just over 10GB.
If I start actually doing some editing I can get it up to 20GB easily. I have never gotten it past 30GB though.
>>709273876
Depends on your motherboard...>>709273931
Still on socket 775, and probably will be in 10 years time as well. I'm never going to be able to afford to upgrade...
>>709273902
I dont know a thing about EVE but people multibox on WoW with 5-6 characters with 8GB
>>709273876
it's fairly slow, it correlates to roughly(you double the number speccy gives you) 1066Mhz DDR3, your CAS timings are decent though at CAS7.
DDR4 will be MUCH faster, starting at around 1066MHz or 2133MHz effective frequency. But the CAS timings are much higher at like CAS 14 or 15.
In the end yours is going to be within 5-10% of even good DDR4, for the most part RAM is RAM.
>>709273931
Just under 6gb in use. Chrome with 3 tabs... chrome on other monitor with Al Jazeera HD Live on youtube... Fuckloads loaded up in background...
>>709273902
>>709273987
>>709273997
I'm the guy with the S775 piece of shit machine, and I multibox 12 eve clients on 8GB of ram...
What's your excuse for having one, you faggot ? What do you use your processor for, what amazingly optimized application that runs on 6 fucking cores could you be running ? Also, what the fuck is a 6-core processor, sounds like when about 8-9 years ago AMD messed up a batch of their quad-core processors, they were shit, so they marketed them as 3 core processors.
>>709274103
Windows uses dynamic RAM allocation, if you have LOTS of RAM available, it uses a ton of RAM, if you don't have all that much RAM available, it uses whatever it needs, and caches things more often.
So even if we had identical processes running, if windows sees I have more installed RAM in my available RAM pool, it will likely allocate larger chunks out, thus using more RAM.
>>709274108
Nice
>>709274065
I would like to go to DDR4 but my motherboard is old and wont take it.
>>709274140
Try linking people...
>>709274108
lolcats
There's always one guy...
>implying i7 has any benefits over i5
>implying it's not just a meme to drain money from you
>>709274140
I PP RAW images in Lightroom.
Games that support multi core rip it up.
Handy when someone else is accessing my computer from the lounge (Mine hosts all the media).
I run fuckloads of background tasks
>>709274310
>comparing quad core i7's to quad core i5's.
We are talking about real CPUs here.
6c/12t will beat 4c/4t or 4c/8t.
>>709274310
Clearly that game doesn't utilize extra cores very well, or isn't that optimised.
>>709274395
It's obviously not CPU bound at all considering even OCing the CPUs didn't give even a single FPS.
>>709274395
99% of the games work well on 2 cores. Most games are GPU intensive, not CPU intensive. Investing into a costly CPU is waste of money.
>>709274434
Let's rephrase what I was meaning.
All those columns are hitting the same. It's not the CPU. It's topping out at the gcard or memory or something, and if it could use the extra cores from the CPU it would clearly reflect that.
>>709274544
Not if you utilise the CPU.
I utilise the CPU.
>>709274544
>Investing into a costly CPU is waste of money.
For gaming, sure. If you even bothered to read more than 4 replies into the thread you'd see we aren't really talking about gaming here.
>>709274341
If you're using it for a server, get a fucking xeon and be done with it. The thread sounds like "why doesn't everyone have an i7 at home" and the answer is really simple - because most people don't need one.
>>709274653
Depends on WHAT kind of i7 you mean too... consumer i7 or extreme i7.
Most people won't need or pay for an extreme.
>>709274653
>get a fucking xeon
and be limited to shit single core performance and a high price tag unless you go for an ES without warranty.
I'd rather get a K series, OC the hell out of it with my $25 OC protection plan, and if it ever does fry, just get a free replacement.
If it survives longer than the warranty, I upgrade to a new machine.
>>709274653
My machine is a server/game machine.
Yes, I need to build a house server/media server and separate the two.
The price of an Xeon that would go on my board is super cheap now. I certainly could go get one :)
>>709274584
Ok then what about games like minecraft.... For example that use almost entirely CPU?
>>709271385
Because I'm not autistic. There really isn't a need for a 6 core processer as of right now. Maybe in a few years as games get more powerful, but as of right now, the really isn't a point to it. My i5-6600k 3.5GHz Quad Core is fine as it is.
>>709274879
>games
>>>/v/
>>709274879
Would run pretty fucking good on my 3930k @ 4.3ghz
>>709273804
anyone? i gotta leave for work soon
>>709274972
>dell dimension e521
2006 dude... save for new machine!
>>709274972
Not going to get much for 300 tbh. A good CPU is 500 and GPU about 400..
RAM maybe?
>>709271385
I've been running an 8 core processor for years now at 4.7 ghz.
You're still a ways behind son.
>>709275052
>A good CPU is 500
you can get a good CPU and motherboard for ~$300-400.
>>709275142
Sorry i am talking AUD. But shit... I would like to see which ones you are talking about
>>709275033
>>709275052
if modern graphics card and cpu are compatible i would consider it. but maybe i should just spring for the new system and keep that one as my fuck around machine.
>>709274972
Buy a new desktop, and get the parts and assemble them yourself, don't buy an already assembled pc, what are you, a mongrel ?
'upgraded' from a phenom II x4 965 3,4GHz to an i5 4590 3,3 GHz(i think). what improvements can i expect?
>>709275211
Motherbaord - CPU - RAM $Aus800 easily.
>>709275282
He's an Aussie... might be a bogan.
>>709275211
Microcenter in the US has great instore motherboard/CPU bundles.
>>709275350
Thats not me (the aussie) but thanks for that.
Also, general advice for everyone, if you're building a gaming PC, save some money, get a xx60/60TI/70 nvidia, a top tier i3/low tier i5, and use it for like three years without touching anyhing, then buy a new one.
>>709275483
Get i5
Get SSD
Get 16gb ram
Spend as much on gcard as you can.
>>709275565
My advice is always get one or two below the top end card. You save 30-40% of the cost and get 85% of the performance.
>>709275282
what's the best case for relatively low price?
>>709275677
Depends on the country you're in.
>>709275767
murica, land of the free
>>709275565
An SSD helps with loading times, sure, but it doesn't really provide a boost for performance while the game is running. Sure, okay, maybe a little one with aome games, but it's not a must. 16 gigs of RAM is okay, and it doesn't even need to be the fastest on the market ( bus speed I mean ), again, it's a negligible boost in performance.
>>709275598
1060 - $Aus300 - 450
1070 - $Aus650 - 800
1080 - $Aus850 - 1200
Pick a budget really...
>>709275822
erm... yes it does.
If anything needs to be read off the HDD at any time, it's quicker.
>>709275829
Kek, you guys get fucked.
>GTX 1060: $199-230
>GTX 1070: $390-430
>GTX 1080: $600-650
>>709275822
Just general desktop use is soooo much more responsive with an SSD.
If you don't already have one for you boot drive you really should upgrade.
>>709275677
You mean with parts ? Get an i3 6300 and a GTX 1060. Will be able to run pretty much anything for a good price.
Will the 1080Ti actually be released in january or just officially announced?
I'm pricing up a new PC and not sure if I should hold off or not.
>>709275958
That's Australia for you.... fucking Australia Tax.
Fucked in the ass with no lube... and they don't even have the common cutesy to spit on it first.
>>709275889
Like I said - loading times. During gaming, you don't really read from the HDD, everything is preloaded.
>>709271385
Whole setup cost $1000 even a year ago. 8 cores.
>>709276060
EVERY computer should have an SSD.
If you get a computer without an SSD, you are a fucking idiot.
>>709276181
>FX 8350
kek I guess if you hate single core performance.
>>709276388
it's cheep dood
>>709276196
amen to that
>>709276491
So is Goon...
>>709276491
I agree, as I mentioned earlier in the comments, I upgraded from an AMD chip of that era to the 5820k.
>>709276523
>>709271902
I would get one but I can't because ultrawide master race obviously
>>709276621
>ultrawide
Meme resolution that's only good for movies and games, perfect for a teen who tells his mom he's doing homework but is actually jerking it to lolis.
>>709271902
Same for 120hz!
>>709276703
Sick fuck...
>>709276181
I spent a bit more, but i just built ~8 months ago.
>>709276621
>ultrawide master race
>>709277419
>>709276703
>>709276621
I am either stupid or dont know the meme.
Can anyone explain?
>>709277639
21:9 aspect ratio monitors are referred to as ultrawide.
They're pretty useless for productivity, but look decent for games that support the aspect ratio, and movies.
>>709277740
Oh right i assumed that. But didnt know exactly what it was.
Money
>>709277639
>>709277920
On 4chan, if the peasants can't afford something it's a meme.
>>709278035
Except a nice 40-43" 4k monitor costs more than whatever ultrawide meme you can afford does.
I'd rather have more pixels over a meme aspect ratio.
>>709278422
pic related
>>709278697
dank
>>709271385
because there's more to my life beyond the specs of my PC
>>709279598
>his income isn't tied to how productive he is.
oh okay.
>>709279598
poorfag detected
>>709278697
>expensive monitor
>dat keyboard
why.exe
>>709271385
>OP goes to /g/
>MOAR CORES
>OP get laughed at.
>>709279745
Seeing is more important than typing. Some people would rather have a wireless keyboard than a stupid mech keyboard. Especially since most people can type reasonably well on either kind.
Getting a i7 6700k soon
>>709279728
okay
>>709280045
agree with you there, but seeing myself as a stepmania fag, I look forward to both seeing and typing.
