Why buy the same game twice when people already have mods that look a million times better than the "remastered" version?
Please explain this nonsense
64bit (more mods, access to mroeof your computers hardware)
no one is buying it you get it for free
/thread
>>709267013
/Thread
>>709266945
>40 million ps4 sold
>releases popular game for ps4
>why would they do this
>>709267013
Only Steam users are getting it for free. I have a copy of Skyrim for PS3 and I'm most certainly not getting a free copy of HD for PS4
>>709267013
It's still just Skyrim.
>>709267520
Nobody cares about you console fags anyways
>>709267605
we still arent buying another copy we get it for free you console faggot
>>709267520
Whose fault is that? Are they supposed to allow you to line up outside your local game shop with your copy of Skyrim Legendary Edition in hand and give you a free PS4 copy for it?
>>709267666
Trips of truth
>>709267661
>>709267666
You do realise that most of the marketing campaign for it is "holy shit look at it on PS4 and Xbone"
>>709267743
i dont give a fuck since im on pc
dont make me satan trips your ass too
>>709267712
That's my entire point. It's fucking stupid considering >>709267743
>>709267774
>>709267666
Samefag
>>709267811
fuck you got me want a medal fam `?
>>709267775
But PC players don't care about the graphical upgrade, we're looking forward to the FREE upgrade to 64bit.
If you expected a thread full of console players to come and argue over paying full price for the game again you picked the wrong place to discuss it honestly.
>>709267013
/lameshit
>>709267774
I got it on PS3 as a gift years ago and then bought it on Steam myself because it's better and able to be modded. Either way I'm getting a free copy of HD. I just think it's fucking retarded for their entire marketing campaign to be about how much better it looks on PS4/Xbone compared to PS3/360
My skyrim already looks better than what HD will give.
>>709266945
>not playing darksouls
> use torrents
> dont have to spend a dime on a single player game
> inb4 viruses
> lrn2torrent
>>709267905
Again, you're reiterating my point while still ignoring it. I'm not saying you're wrong about that, I'm saying the marketing is fucking stupid
>>709267982
That's not how that works, faggot
>>709266945
because
>"mods are bad"
>"they ruin the game"
>"that how people hack your games like the call of duty multiplayer"
my friend on xbox actually believes this and doesn't understand why i wont buy one
>mfw
I'm buying it for Xbox one. blow me.
>>709267958
Because that's how almost all remasters make money since PC either gets them for free or like 75% off.
Your arguement is pointless, every year at e3 Sony and Microsoft go on about the graphical quality of the games on their consoles and then run the preview test build from a PC, this is all common knowledge.
>>709267982
Imagine how pretty it could get if you get the hd version and mod that.
>>709267991
It will drop in price in 3 months. I will play Skyrim again for 20 bucks
>>709268013
>>709268074
Because I thought it was obvious, I did just comment on it anyway.
>>709267666
Enjoy red dead 2
company wants your money
>>709268074
Yeah okay, tell me more about how all remaster are free/cheap on PC. Cause that's a true statement. Because they love PC so much they just give us shit for free all the time.
>>709268188
Are people still pitching a fit over the title?
>>709268124
Why? I already have HD texture packs installed for everything. Plus tons of new weapons, armors, spells, shouts, perks, enemies, quests, companions. Everything you can think of I have already.
>>709267991
But I like vast expanses of nothingness and boring repetitive melee combat.
>>709268261
I cant wait for Skyrim 2
>>709268193
Bioshock Remastered, just got those for free mate; Dead Island Remastered, we got those for like 80+% off.
FYI I said 'almost all', which is obviously an exaggeration on my behalf of 'most'
Why don't you find me a list of remasters of games already on steam, that on launch did not offer a launch discount or free copy to verified owners.
>>709268124
thats not how it works
>>709268296
>still thinking this is somehow better than the 64 bit version
>>709268296
That 64bit thing is nice though.
>>709268188
The classic console response
>enjoy "title thats only on console"
>thatll show him
I loved red dead revolver, redemption and ill love repemption 2... when i borrow my friends console and copy.
I dont need it on pc, i have friends who let me borrow and play on their expensive shit, so i still do it a for free.
>Happymerchant.shecklepng
>>709267013
>>709268338
this
64bit is the only thing to get hyped about, you can do all the "graphics updates" yourselves" im pretty sure its just bs to sell it to console fags
>>709267013
>>709267661
/thread
>>709266945
You don't have to buy it twice, it comes for free if you have the steam version in your account.only if you want to switch from old console to new one
>>709268335
How the hell would I know, I haven't been able to afford a gaming computer in years anyway. I can just imagine that opening up for the 64bit will improve the game.
>>709268296
Because it's free, and if you actually have a decent setup graphical mods are set to improve with access to more memory and such via 64bit, lots of mod devs are already porting their stuff over and some may not maintain their 32bit mods.
>>709268338
>Same game
>But now it can bog your machine down EVEN MORE!!1
>>709268426
op is a (console) fag
/thread
>>709268338
I'm getting 50 fps as is. What is 64 bit going to give me?
>>709268467
>man I have a million mods installed I'm so cool
>wow no having Skyrim use lots of resources is bad
>>709268467
>>709268494
Not our fault you have shit builds guys.
>>709268494
More stable/better performance? Not really my fault you're trying to run it on a system that clearly can't handle what you want to do.
>>709267661
underrated post
>>709268589
>>709268540
What in the fuck are you even talking about? Not many builds can run 40+ mods and pull 50fps.
On the topic of console, out of curiosity who uses a controller for Skyrim on PC? I know I do because I started playing it on console and it feels weird to play it with M&K now but I'm curious if I'm the odd one out
>>709268494
64 bit will allow skyrim to use more than 2gigs of ram in your computer, which I can only assume you have
32bit means the process can use up to 2^32 bytes (or around 4gb of ram) but for somereason bethesda hard coded it for ctd at 2.1gb (not for some reason, its pandering to console fags)
having it in 64bit means theoretically it can use 2^64 bytes of ram, or 16.8million terabytes, which I dont think anyone has.
tl;dr if you ahve more than 2gb of ram then it will run better
>>709268589
>Your system cant handle skyrim
>Gets solid high framerates
>>709266945
Only console fags have to pay for it twice.
>>709268479
/bait
>>709268698
This is all moot you realize? There is a memory hack for skyrim that utilizes much more ram.
>But this is native support
So is fucking a pussy, but i dont see blowjobs going away
>>709268685
I have like 75+ at 4k and it runs just fine. Yeah your budget build "look at my cheap computer that technically can play current games" struggles, doesn't mean others have the same issue.
>>709268467
Bog your system down with skyrim? Are you kidding? Skyrim isn't even a good benchmark game. Skyrim is one of those games like every fucking bethesda game where I actually had to use a 3rd party program to limit the frame rate so their shitty scripting system wouldn't bug the game out.
Lol, bog your system down ffs.
>>709268685
my game "works" with 250ish mods, as in the game runs correctly, it just uses more than 2.1 gb ram and ctds when not inside small dungeons
>>709268707
>thinking 50 fps is solid and/or high
>>709268801
>Guys i am sooo cool i have to make shit up
>>709268791
If it turns out that native, optimised 64 bit is NOT better than a workaround I'll give you a blowjob and tell you that you were right. Feel better now?
>>709268791
you haven't seen pussy or a blowjob ever since you actually play skyrim lol btfo
>>709268855
>Console fags locked at 30
You are right, seeing as the human eye cant even read the amount of frames i can get, lets just say fuck it and piss ourselves if we dont get a solid 240fps
>>709268801
>doesn't know Skyrim natively caps fps
>continues to make shit up
>>709268791
the memory hack doesnt work, it still ctds at 2.1gb of ram usage,
or maybe im jsut fucking retarded, and did that wrong, regardless, now bethesda did it for me for free, all I have to do is jsut download it.
regardless not having to fuck with the memory hack makes it easier for those that are tech illiterate but still game on PC not all of us fuckers mod the hell out of everything.
And the game should've been released as 64bit in 2011, so its about goddamned time.
>>709268947
But anon the human eye can't see higher than 24 fps so 30 is still far too much
>>709267982
been awhile since i played, did cloaks of skyrim get some updates or is that from a different mod?
>>709267991
>>709268932
Sure kid. You just wandered in, not know what those faggy ass "video games" are, and just happened to read my comment halfway down the thread to purposely say some dumb shit
>trolling used to be an art
>>709268876
Well, for one, I have a better computer than you, so I obviously am cooler. Two, it's a widely known bug in bethesda games using that shitty engine that their scripting fucks up at frame rates over 60. For some games it's not as noticeable, like in skyrim all you really get are random crashes and sometimes physics objects will jitter and fuck up, or sometimes words of power won't be obtainable from the walls no matter how long you stare at them. It's mainly only a problem if you are like me, hate mouse lag, and turn on vsync. The way to fix it (at least the way I had to fix it) was to download a program called riva tuner and set it to limit skyrim's frame rate to 60. I had to do this with fallout 4 as well, because anything above 60 and things like lockpicking go super fast and you get stuck on terminals.
But yeah, either you're just fucking with us or you're playing skyrim on a computer you bought in 2005
>>709268961
It doesn't you idiot.
>>709268983
It does work man, i beta test mod compatibility on LL, and usually run 200 plus mods at once. I use up about 20gigs of ram when i use skyrim
The memory patch is convoluted ill give you that
>>709269166
Except it does and you'd know that if you did any kind of modding more intensive than your boobie mods
>>709269007
you only need 24 for your brain to trick you into thinking its motion at the first glance,
your brain and eyes can interperet up to 1000 frames per second, ot becomes indistinguishable at around 150fps
not even mad I took the bait
>>709267666
I don't even play videogames any more, homie.
>>709269218
Except it doesn't though, this is why I had to download a 3rd party program to do it. This is why my games now runs without the bugs it had before. You are dumb.
>>709269233
>holier than thou
>>709269130
>All this heresy
>All this lack of proof
>Im super cool guys
I bet you post from your fucking phone, pleb
>>709269274
Obvious troll is obvious now
>>709269272
Says the guy insulting strangers on the Internet.
>>709269130
It's impressive how you can be correct and so wrong at the same time. I'm sorry your computer is shitty, but Skyrim defaults to having vsync turned on which essentially caps the fps to 60 and can't be turned off without editing files. So either you're making shit up to sound cool or you were fucking around with files you had no understanding of and screwed your game up and didn't know how to fix it.
>>709269313
>obviously running out of bullshit to shovel
>>709269334
says the guy who thought someone cared about his opinion on 4chan when it was irrelevant to the thread
>>709269355
But the physics are fucked up if you go beyond 60 fps
>>709269355
/Thread
>>709269462
Which is why I said you were both correct and very wrong. That much is spot on. Skyrim over 60 fps gets unstable. Which is why they capped the game natively.
>>709267991
Warrior of Sunlight master race
>>709267998
>spent $5 during a summer sale
>free updated game
I mean if you're too cheap for 5 dollars I don't know what to tell you. We all know you probably spend 10x that on dragon dildos.
>>709266945
It's no brainer really. Just a typical way for game devs these days to milk some money out from a bunch of retarded fanboys.
You can't reason with them, just let them buy and get on with it.
I loved Skyrim. I even played it again and again using different character each time just for the sake of trying out everything. But do I wanna waste my money on the remastered version and its so called "extras"? The answer is NO.
There are plenty of new fresh games coming out and worth more for my money.
>>709269668
Hey, don't be that guy.
I pay for my games AND my dragon dildos. Don't compare me to him.
>>709269355
Considering the fact that I already stated I turned it off to prevent mouse lag I'd say it's safe to assume that I did indeed edit those files and that is what caused the problem, and I then had to download an external program to limit my frame rate without using vsync and introducing mouse lag again. I guess if you're talking about vsync as the frame rate cap, then sure. But without that on, there's no magical feature in the game that prevents it from going any higher. They hide it so you can't turn it off because they know their game breaks at high fps. I do this because mouse lag seriously bothers me in any game that I play, and it's the first thing I get rid of.
You're also completely missing my point, which is that skyrim doesn't take shit to run and there's no possible way anyone's system is being "bogged down" unless they have a 10 year old computer.
>>709269678
Yeah it's a no brainer, of course we want to play something we're getting for free that is an upgrade to a game we enjoyed, and I'm not talking about the graphical updates.
>>709269678
>thinking Skyrim HD coming out means you can't spend your money on other games anyway
>>709268800
Bullshit. Skyrim caps at 60. Got anything else you want to lie about on the internet kiddo?
>>709267743
>You do realise that most of the marketing campaign
>marketing campaign
You do realize that it makes no sense to spend money on an advertisement campaign for users who get the product for free anyways!?
We know what we get: 64bit support. No need to spend money on shoving this fact down our throats.
It's you who has to spend money on it, so the campaign is targeting you, so you will generate profit for them.
L2economics.
Then you'd also realize why gaming on a console is fucking retarded from a economical POV, the same POV OP criticizes ITT, so just STFU.
>>709269748
So what you're saying is that you admit to fucking up your game and not knowing how to fix it. Unless you're on a really shitty computer there should be any magical "mouse lag" that comes from vsync. You're also missing that I agree with you on that last point, but still think you're an idiot for disabling the in-game fps limiting then limiting the fps with a 3rd party program. The internal "vsync" is essentially just a 60 fps cap, not anything more.
>>709269839
/thread
>>709266945
Why not? If itll be more optimized and just as moddable? Im definetely gonna torrent it. Skyrim isnt that big of a download and since its remastered and comes with all dlcs i wont even have to torrent the updates and dlcs. One quick download, apply crack and thats it. Wait for skse to come out and get your mods back.
>>709269784
75+ mods, kiddo. Reading comprehension
>>709269839
For some reason the trolls seem to be making two arguements at the same time that massively contradict eachother, that firstly it's not worth money on consoles where it is actually a major improvement especially if you never played the game; and that on PC it's no different to them than mods despite the 64bit upgrade, and it's a crime Bethesda are releasing it despite it being free.
>>709269274
>I bet you post from your phone
Toilet lurker here, dropping a fat deuce and checking out the musings of psychopaths. Helps to relax my colon for primo shits. Shit posting in it's only acceptable form.
>>709269904
*shouldn't be
Autocorrect is a wonderful thing
>>709266945
Fan service for those on Steam :3
>>709266945
>buy the same game twice
Its free unless youre on console. Then you dont have to buy it if you dont want to. On the other hand if you only own the 360 version and want to play skyrim again, its def worth it. Dlcs included and moddable
>>709269904
If you don't notice input lag from vsync then I'm not really sure what else to tell you. Do you notice mouse lag in any games at all? I know some people just don't notice it ever even when it's there. My room mate uses a wireless mouse and every time I try something on his computer it's like torture. He says he doesn't notice, but it's pretty obvious.
Other than that everything I told you was true, the game is easy to run and doesn't bog down your system unless it's old as fuck. I disabled vsync (and mouse acceleration incidentally) to get rid of the input lag that is common to ALL games that use vsync and mouse acceleration (seriously, google this, it's not like it isn't a thing). I then found another way to limit the frame that wouldn't cause input lag.
What the fuck are you even arguing with me about? I can't tell anymore. It started off with you calling me a liar, now you're just saying a broke my game and have a shitty computer. Doesn't make any sense. The game had a problem. I fixed the problem. The game now runs perfectly fine with no mouse lag at all, and no glitches.
>Install bunch of mods
>Looks awesome fam
>Exploring Whiterun Hold
>Mammoths floating 2 miles above ground
>Now I got to worry about this shit
Can't wait for proper HD
>>709269976
>writing comprehension
Fixed that for ya.
>>709270450
Clearly your issue was the mouse acceleration and not the vsync. And of course you're going to have issues with a wireless mouse. They're shit. My "arguing" was calling you out on your bullshit claiming first that Skyrim doesn't natively cap fps, then that in doing so it causes mouse lag. Mouse acceleration and a couple other things could cause that issue but vsync wouldn't unless it was syncing your fps low and causing overall lag because your computer is shitty.
Retarded console plebs.
>>709270510
>this
ppl keep sucking modders dicks even though they mostly all suck ass.
>walk around at 30 fps bc muh enb (that looks like some fake ugly fantasy bullshit) and big trees
>floating corpse
>accidentally walk under
>ctd
>>709270615
Hardly my fault that you can't understand how you saying 40+ and then me saying 75+ were connected then made a stupid comment on it. I shouldn't have to quantify every statement I make because you can't put 2 and 2 together
>>709270740
God, enb is the fucking worst. Looks like goddamn anime bullshit
>>709270740
If you're going to mod you need to go ham on mods
It doesn't take that much time or effort tbh
Doing just the enb is stupid, its meant to be used in conjunction with all the other shit.
I especially like the lighting and interior mods for nord ruins; vanilla is boring and shit. Modded feels like you're indiana jones exploring some spoopy tombs.
>>709268188
Enjoy getting anally raped by console companies and devs because >muh eksloosivs
>>709269713
>64 bit upgrade
That's what everyone is hyped about.
>>709270645
This is why i left the fucking thread, i was the other nigga arguing with his retarded ass
>>709270740
>Walk into any building
>Pots, plates, sweet rolls shaking like Michael J. Fox
>Shit flying all around the room
>Like dragons aren't bad enough, now I got to worry about poltergeists
>tfw I spend more time browsing and installing new mods than I spend playing the game itself
>>709270645
Both mouse acceleration and vsync cause input lag. If you have either enabled it will still be there. It's very well known that vsync causes input lag, so again.. Not sure what to tell you about that aside from google it or run your own tests. I'll admit that isn't not very noticeable compared to the lag caused by mouse acceleration, but it is still there, and it is enough to bother me and cause me to look for a fix. I'm not alone in this.
The wireless mouse belongs to my room mate, I use wired. I was using it as an example of how some people do not notice mouse lag even when it's super obvious, which I'm starting to think is your issue.
Also, I assumed you weren't talking about vsync when you said skyrim caps your fps because I had already stated that I disabled it.
But yeah, bottom line is that vsync does cause input lag, and this is a very widely known issue. It does not matter how fast your computer is.
>>709266945
I buy it as an excuse to play it another time
>>709269386
So why do you think anyone cares about yours?
>>709266945
No amount of modding makes Skyrim any less bland and generic.
Kind of like fallout 4.
Where the fuck is morrowind remastered?
>>709271224
Sure, friend. Okay. Your essay replies have won.
>>709271291
You could just apologize instead of being a smarmy cunt about it but I guess that works.
>>709271061
>>709270740
Man I had a good 20 mods running and never had these problems. I'd occasionally get ctds but not like you guys make it out. Just sounds like people that aren't properly installing shit.
>>709271500
>expecting an apology on the internet because someone gave up trying to argue with your stupid ass
>>709271124
>hours picking mods
>hours installing and setting up
>hours fixing issues
>finally time to play
>CTD
>CTD
>finally works
>get bored after 3 hours
That's about the time I become introspective and wonder what the hell I'm doing with my life.
>>709271694
>googled it
>discovered he was wrong
>damage control
Seriously all you have to do is say you're sorry and that I'm right and I'll forgive you. It's not like a I hold grudges or anything.
>>709271753
Sure, kid. Sure.
>>709266945
Because there will always be people being fooled into buying remastered versions of games. Just like how there will always be people fooled into buying forty dollar DLC's that only last 20mins or just give you a idiotic hat/clothing item. I predict that future games will just be slideshows of pictures to make the graphic whores happy, to simply brag to friends "How good it looks". I mean what happened to a good storyline and such wtf
>>709271694
>>709271753
Can you two faggots just fuck already?
>>709271894
You're not fooling anyone into thinking you're smart or cool by calling people kid, by the way. You are a pretty transparent douchebag.
>>709271974
>>709271944
come back when its 1944 bishhh
>>709271974
I have a headache and need to wash my hair
>>709271275
>Bethesda says they want to break away from elder scrolls and fallout cycle
>don't expect ESIV any time soon
>just give me my fucking morrowind, n'wah
>>709272009
Why are you still upset
>>709266945
playing a bethesda rpg in a first place
>>709272095
I just think it's funny that you're trying to posture on /b/
>>709272195
>projecting
>>709272143
You forgot the
>
YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE
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>>709266945
64bit is pretty neat although at this point i am personally pretty bored with skyrim since its been out for like 5 years and no one makes mods worth a shit for it anymore. they didnt do anything about the 255 esp limit though so the whole thing is pretty fucking pointless
i guess console mods are cool but they will never get anything worth a shit since they cant use SKSE so again its pretty pointless
seems like its just a cash grab by bethesda since console players (aka retards) need to buy it all over again
my game already looks a million times better than the remastered edition and it will probably break all my mods if i switch over and remodding everything would be a huge pain
probably wont get it
>>709268188
I will
>>709272462
Nice, if my skyrim looked like this I'd actually play the damn thing
>>709272462
How many frames you get with that much grass?
>>709272303
It's an observation. I'm not the one calling people kid because I'm too lazy to google a common problem that I refuse to believe exists.
I seriously don't understand why you won't admit your wrong. You have a search bar in your browser that you can verify everything I've said with, but for some reason all you want to do is just pretend you know better and call me a kid. Whatever though, you'll figure it out eventually.
>>709272672
How hard does it drop in a forest?
I want to care about remastered but I just don't.
>>709272795
not that bad, ~30 i usually around the lowest it goes.
>>709272865
>30
>>709272865
A true cinematic experience.
>>709272929
the profile you see in that screen shot is pretty much just for screen shots so it doesnt bother me. the profile i actually play with has less dense grass (not set to 7 lmao) and uses not 8k textures all over the place. i still keep the ENB because if you are not playing with TKRE then whats the point but over all it runs smoother. the above screen shot was also hastily taken for this thread so it does not show everything in its full glory
>>709273117
How many nude mods tho
>>709273288
just the UNP body
if you are talking about sex mods i have an entirely separate install for that but i rarely use it anymore
>>709267811
good job, detective.
>>709267520
Nor should you
>>709270023
>its
Sometimes i get the feeling Bethesda doesn't like modders "ruining" their games. Skyrim itself is a pretty dull, cakewalk experience. It's the mods that makes the game interesting. This so called "remastered" edition just breaks several mods & doesn't even look half as good as some mods can make the game look. Overall it looks cheap, especially in comparison to the Skyrim HD mod
so, do we already know how far mods will be compatible?
also, what does this truly adds? textures upscaled a few times and 64bits support? improved models or collision meshes? cut content resurfacing? bugfixes?
>>709267013
/thread
>>709274208
I'm actually looking forward to a vanilla skyrim experience again. Plus the game isn't really a cakewalk on legendary.
>>709274808
if only bethesda found a way to make enemies more challenging than making them bullet sponges with high damage
>>709274987
I agree. What I really want is fallout 4's survival mode in skyrim.
>>709275139
is it like NV's? in that case there should be a mod called basic needs that does just that
>>709267520
PS4 users are cucks, sony has fucked you with mods.
>>709275269
Yeah pretty much. But they also made the combat more fun imo by making it so everything is deadlier. You can kill enemies super fast but they can also nearly one shot you in a lot of cases also reduced carry weight and no fast travel lol
I know there are mods for all of that in skyrim, but I really wish it just had a built in mode for it.
>indirectly hating rim
>>709268188
>implying Red Dead was good at all
Also, i own Ps4 and PC so no "mad PC Fag"
